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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests. Legendary music exact Jerry Clark is in the building,

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Speaker 1: and get.

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Speaker 2: It right, and.

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Speaker 3: Get it right. I wanted.

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Speaker 1: I also, no, I wasn't gonna mess up your name,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk.

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Speaker 1: I also wanted to leave in the introduction the legendary

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Speaker 1: story time with Jerry Clark. That's why I wanted to

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Speaker 1: somehow segue so it's not just music Exac, but fellow.

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Speaker 3: Podcaster on iHeart Now. So I wanted to include all that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't forget the name.

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to get.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to I know, I was like, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do the legendary storytime Jerry Clark, and then but

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Speaker 1: I also want to include legendary music Exac.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, all right, let's focus on

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Speaker 3: what you're cooking for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Keep it very, very very basic, and I'm gonna do

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Speaker 4: some spaghetti with the signature ground Turkey that I grew.

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Speaker 3: Up that my mom used to use signature.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess everybody's ground turkey now.

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Speaker 4: But we when I was growing up as a kid

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Speaker 4: in Chicago, my mom she was you know, we didn't

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Speaker 4: really eat a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of beef and pork.

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Speaker 4: So years ago, in the seventies, we ate turkey, ground turkey,

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Speaker 4: turkey bacon. So that's why my love for turkey come from.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I cook everything with not everything, but

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Speaker 4: a lot. So my spaghetti's I like that.

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Speaker 1: So while you hop up and get in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: for me, I ain't really let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do a lot of other things good.

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Speaker 2: But see the streets, the streets.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're gonna have.

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Speaker 2: The streets. What did you say?

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Speaker 1: You screamed the streets, Jerry, I'm gonna say it now,

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Speaker 1: legendary Jerry Clark, scream streets.

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Speaker 3: Are you married right now? I don't want to say that.

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Speaker 3: If you're married, I'm streets.

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Speaker 4: I was married before I was married, before the streets

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Speaker 4: you got sweat.

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Speaker 3: Streets have anything to do with the possible ending.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not that I'm a square. I'm a quiet square,

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Speaker 4: real the quiet square guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna cook.

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Speaker 3: I find that hard to believe you.

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Speaker 1: You're legendary and music exact. You work with all these Southern.

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Speaker 4: Rappers and yes, so what does that have to do

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Speaker 4: with me being in the streets?

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Speaker 2: Colon.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the interview, I'm gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: determine if you if you was for.

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Speaker 3: The streets or if you are a square. We shall see.

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Speaker 2: Why No, But you know what, technically you can be both.

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Speaker 3: You could be that's someone that's from the streets.

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Speaker 2: But say that you could be both.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you look, I have not to cut you

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Speaker 4: off and have some mom of wheat noodles that I

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Speaker 4: like to use.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed that you were very particular. What's up

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Speaker 3: with the wheat? I didn't even know they sold wheat

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Speaker 3: until you said wheat?

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Speaker 2: Come on calling you stop?

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Speaker 3: I was like, shit, how do you tell? I literally

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Speaker 3: looked at the noodles. I said, how do you tell

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Speaker 3: which ones are weak?

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Speaker 1: And then I saw some that look like wheat, and

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Speaker 1: then I saw some that said wheat, and I said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Coling, you had never heard of wheat noodles.

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Speaker 3: I eat protein noodles. Have you heard of protein noodles?

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Speaker 2: Sadly, just like you got white bread, you got wheat bread.

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Speaker 2: So it's anything you can you know.

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Speaker 3: What's your obsession with these wheats? They taste better?

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Speaker 4: Nah, just like them, their little healthy And I'll eat

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Speaker 4: some mom, I'll eat someone where do U tells? I'll

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Speaker 4: eat some Mom, I'll eat some white noodles?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Will okay?

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Speaker 1: And you know you cook all that spaghettiod for two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right almost?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasna. Look, I'm I'm I'm talking and cooking

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Speaker 4: and I'm not. I never usually do that, and I

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Speaker 4: really don't cook a lot. You should, I feel very

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Speaker 4: you should. Okay, so you definitely should.

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Speaker 3: You cook it.

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Speaker 1: Take me back to what was going on during this

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Speaker 1: time of spaghetti noodles with ground turkey.

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Speaker 2: I had a very simple upbringing. Uh.

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Speaker 4: My parents were married before before my father passed in

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, they were married for forty five years.

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Speaker 2: So I had a good solid upbringing.

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Speaker 4: Uh, three siblings. I'm second in the pecking order, so

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Speaker 4: I watched a family, you know, growing up. My mom

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Speaker 4: was big into, well, my errands were being into you know,

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Speaker 4: having dinner. No matter what we had, whether it was

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Speaker 4: practice or you know, moving around, we had to have dinner,

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Speaker 4: whether it was five ten minutes before we you know,

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Speaker 4: every night. So all that to say, I I came

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Speaker 4: up in a in a very I'm very appreciative of

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Speaker 4: coming up in.

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Speaker 2: A very stable, solid upbringing, cause I look at shit.

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Speaker 3: Now, sh was it middle class or oh.

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Speaker 2: No, we ain't had no money?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we ain't had no money. Okay, we was in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: We moved in ox to Tennessee for a quick minute,

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Speaker 4: and then we moved down south. Well, we moved farther

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Speaker 4: south Carotlanta, Okay, And that was the best decision my

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Speaker 4: parents could haven't made, because I loved this city. It

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Speaker 4: was you know, of course, being a black mecca. I

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Speaker 4: was able to go to high school here and just

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Speaker 4: really grow okay and spread my wings. And here I

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Speaker 4: am in this great city of Atlanta City, here with you, Colad,

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Speaker 4: cooking some spaghetti with ground turkey.

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Speaker 1: Did the economics change in your family when they moved

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta?

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Speaker 4: Also, yes, yes, it did get better than Chicago. We

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Speaker 4: didn't have no money Knoxville, we didn't have no money.

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Speaker 4: But when we gave him the Atlanta things, you know,

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Speaker 4: got a lot better financially from my parents. So, of course,

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Speaker 4: you know that made a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Were your parents in the industry in any capacity.

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Speaker 2: No, no.

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Speaker 4: But my uncle was the late Gray Stanley Bethel was

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Speaker 4: He was in the music business, and that was my

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Speaker 4: first foray into the music business cause he used to

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Speaker 4: take me to the different conventions, the Jack the Rapper conventions,

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Speaker 4: br conventions, Impact, and I just fell in love with

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Speaker 4: to be honest, I first fell in love with the

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Speaker 4: glamory and the glitz of just being in the mix

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Speaker 4: and being around him. He taught me a lot because

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Speaker 4: he was in the industry for years, and he used

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Speaker 4: to tell me, and I got to see it from

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Speaker 4: myself that this shit is very fickle and phony, but

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Speaker 4: you have to find something to.

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Speaker 2: Keep you grounded.

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Speaker 3: What did he mean by that?

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Speaker 4: Like that you're going to bet a lot of people

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Speaker 4: that are phoning in a three dollar fucking bill in

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Speaker 4: this music business. And I've been surrounded by those type

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Speaker 4: unethical phony people, not all of them, because I know

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Speaker 4: some great individuals that are like family to me now.

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Speaker 2: But this industry, unfortunately, it has been very fit when

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Speaker 2: it's very phone. To this day, it still lives. But

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Speaker 2: I learned the maneuver, run maneuver.

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Speaker 4: You know I have you know, I have three kids,

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Speaker 4: So having a family and being grounded with a solid

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Speaker 4: you know, I tend to think that I'm a very

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Speaker 4: spiritual person.

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Speaker 3: So what what kept you grounded?

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Speaker 2: My family? My kids, your.

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Speaker 3: Kids, and your wife and all that at the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my kids, okay, your kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then what was like your first encounter with the

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Speaker 1: phony and the fake, Like.

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Speaker 3: What was your very first like oh shit, like reality check.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember one incident, but just the fact that,

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Speaker 4: like you're meeting people and go to meeting people say hey, Colleen,

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Speaker 4: this is what we go do.

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Speaker 2: We're go do this deal. Let's say blah, let's handshake

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Speaker 2: on it. Then you don't never hear from him again.

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't like that.

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Speaker 4: It should always bugged me out, like why would we

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Speaker 4: go through all this shit and talk about this and

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Speaker 4: say we're going to do something.

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Speaker 2: If we can't do it, just say, hey, man, something happen,

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to do this deal right

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Speaker 2: now or the.

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Speaker 4: Budget change that but just disappeared that shit is that

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Speaker 4: shit is whack. Yeah, that shit is whack.

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Speaker 2: This shit is whack. So it wasn't just Coleen, It

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Speaker 2: wasn't just one incident. It was really numerous ones.

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Speaker 4: Because I came I started interning at two labels. This

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Speaker 4: was ninety three ninety four, so in those early nineties,

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Speaker 4: of course, the game was way different than what it

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Speaker 4: is now. So I came in and I was able

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Speaker 4: to learn from street promotions and you know, taking it

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Speaker 4: from that ground level.

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Speaker 2: And taking it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like the start starts.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then what were the rappers around that time?

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, you're only in hip hop at the time,

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Speaker 1: because hip hop was fairly.

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Speaker 4: New, right, well, not really fairly new. But one of

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Speaker 4: the labels UH interned for was Relativity. Ruthless Red Distribution.

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Speaker 2: Had an office here in Atlata, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So of course on the Roofless side, that's you know,

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Speaker 4: Easy E mc rae and Bomb Thugs, Holes.

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Speaker 3: With Attitude did and all those guys too.

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Speaker 4: And then on the Relativity side was more East Coast,

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Speaker 4: the beat Nuts, Fat Joe Common, So I was able

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Speaker 4: to get that experience. And then at the same time

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Speaker 4: I was internal for independent label. Brother Marquis from two

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Speaker 4: Live Crew and the super producer DJ Toomp had a

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Speaker 4: label and I interned for them. So that tells you

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Speaker 4: how bad I wanted to be in it because I

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Speaker 4: can turn it too.

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Speaker 1: Label and did you have to work like side jobs

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Speaker 1: in addition to the internet. Well, were you trying to

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Speaker 1: how have your parents?

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Speaker 4: I just told this story recently for the first time.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me. I was working at Delta Airlines.

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Speaker 3: Oh shoot, shout out. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I remember coming home and telling my parents that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't working at Delta anymore, and my mom kind

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Speaker 4: of lost it.

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Speaker 2: Like what they got. It's a good job. You could

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Speaker 2: have worked benefits, you could have worked there for years.

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Speaker 3: What were you doing at Delta? Were you like a student?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: They had a program for for students, college students at

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Speaker 4: that time. I was in school for a couple of years, and.

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Speaker 2: So we we just did customer It was customer service,

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Speaker 2: but it was customer service.

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Speaker 4: So my mom, you know, in her defense, she she

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Speaker 4: had the right to be mad because I was young.

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Speaker 4: And guess what my salary was. I was on a

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I started working for other labels doing

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Speaker 2: But then Racist Records. Uh. For those who don't know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had they had a label as well, so

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Speaker 2: He brought me on, Uh, you're looking at I might

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Speaker 4: You ain't got to look like that's how you cutting

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Speaker 1: So you're like, now now you're like a hustler, slash promoter,

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Speaker 2: I just became that one of those.

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Speaker 3: Dude, Like I became that nigga I mean.

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Speaker 2: Ship, Yeah, that niggas in that line of nigga. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like how you did that. I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was ship.

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Speaker 4: You know, I tend to think I still am, but

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Speaker 4: on very sorry. Oh boy man, I just want to

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Speaker 3: You're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: Great you said you're saying women love the dudes from

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Speaker 4: Because I heard you not not to change. But I

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Speaker 4: We're go stay on point. I'm gonna cook my brown,

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Speaker 4: my little ground turkey. Yeah, she said she got slots.

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Speaker 3: Okay, back to your story.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Steve Rifkin.

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Speaker 4: Icon, Steve Rifkin brought me over to work with him

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Speaker 2: And that's just from having jobs. That's not all the

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Speaker 4: And that's why you have to tune into story time

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Speaker 1: Before we even well, I want to get to all

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Speaker 1: Well you definitely, Okay, well.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, Now I can name some goats.

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Speaker 1: Now share share with me some of the tippits that

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Speaker 4: At least well in radio, in radio, in radio promotions

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Speaker 4: and marketing. There's really one thing that really pushes the

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Speaker 4: needle and Colleen, that's relationships. You have to nurture. You

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Speaker 4: have to develop and nurture relationships. That's the end all

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. That's it.

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking relationships, you're talking about relationships and.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, And I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure even in politics, we'll get there. I'm gonna get there, you.

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Speaker 4: See, I know, I know why you look, even in politics,

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Speaker 2: Look, let me look now, I can cut it down.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cut it down. Why you shout that look? Is

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, because we ain't gonna leave.

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Speaker 2: It listening for transparency?

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Speaker 1: Right since since we did segue into politics, did we

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Speaker 1: skip over it?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: They kind of they kind of overlap because I got

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Speaker 4: It was other people's idea because they saw so much

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Speaker 4: to appoint you to a board called the zone and Board.

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Speaker 2: H and Colleen, I had no clue what the fucking.

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Speaker 2: And they appointed me, that appointed me to that board.

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Speaker 4: The folks that that that that random county that I

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Speaker 1: Uh so, uh so your relationships at this point are buzzing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you could drain the water into that. I

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Speaker 2: I was if you will help me. If you was

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Speaker 3: Tell this eating wall broke. You better use one of those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, use one of those tools.

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Speaker 3: I forget the eighty five South. They built this whole

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Speaker 2: And shout out to eighty five South. I could pour

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Speaker 1: See that's how I know you ain't in the kitchen.

449
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: You better use stop you Let me just say something

450
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: to all y'all listeners. He taking the raw meat thing

451
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: and he can keep swapping, so like if we have

452
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: some kind of bacterial thing.

453
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: I just want to just high like that.

454
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: Jerry Clark, reason in your mouth than this.

455
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jerry, Arry, you're gonna be an atl

456
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: Are you going back to l A.

457
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 3: I'm having a great time, but this is I.

458
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: Had to let me look, let me use something else.

459
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: Now you see how I switched it up.

460
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, after we already died of.

461
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Did anyone else think that when they were seeing him

462
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: switch those utensils.

463
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: Out because nobody look, because they're.

464
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: Not eating it. They don't care exactly.

465
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, but we go. I'm not gonna get

466
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: your Backteriy.

467
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 4: But anyway, Hey, y'all, this is Colleen, this is Jerry Clark.

468
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: We're having a great time and this mill is about

469
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: to be even.

470
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: We don't see no season. All I know is mean.

471
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: There's no seasoning. There's no seasons of season. I didn't

472
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: know this. This is my first time, said by.

473
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: What seasons do you need? Let's not don't look, don't look,

474
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: don't look.

475
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: Watch there we go.

476
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see, if you.

477
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: Know, hold on, let me stand up.

478
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: When I do this, this see this, this goes into

479
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: jiggo Jerry for the strict look.

480
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, okay, okay, Jerry, I'm sorry. I'm having a

481
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: great time. All right, let's go back to the politics.

482
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: Because I want to get to prison sentences and all

483
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Okay, I I don't want to get

484
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: to that. I want to get to the promised Land.

485
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 4: So uh so fast forward. I was appointed to the board.

486
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: I was on the board for a few years. And

487
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 4: at this time, I was still flying back and forth

488
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: to New York for my meetings. And let me say this,

489
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 4: I'm all about accountability. So I'm not gonna sit here

490
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: and act like that I didn't do anything wrong. I

491
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 4: would never do that. But you know, in the music

492
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: industry or period, if somebody takes care of you, say hey,

493
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: send me an invoice for whatever, can you shoot them

494
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: back some it's just you know, appreciate, scratch my back

495
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: and politics, that's bribery, and you go to federal prison

496
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: for that.

497
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: So they took care of you. You blessed them.

498
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: Individual.

499
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 4: He needed some he needed some help with a vote,

500
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 4: and I gave him my vote, and I told him

501
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 4: I needed some help. I was flying some black kids

502
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: out to California to play baseball in the baseball tournament,

503
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 4: and I needed some help paying for those plane tickets,

504
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: and he helped me. The amount was thirty five hundred dollars.

505
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: I went to federal prison for nine months for three thousand,

506
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars.

507
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: That's a heavy that's a heavy fist.

508
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: It was, it was.

509
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: It was so interesting when I got down to Maxwell

510
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 4: Federal Prison camp in Montgomery, Alabama, that a lot of

511
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: people on my work detail and in my dorm.

512
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: Card man, you ain't even have a no three thousand dollars.

513
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, what the fuck you piss out?

514
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: That's me.

515
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 4: I was in Downing in twenty fifteen. I went to

516
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: prison twenty sixteen, so I did nine months of federal prison.

517
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 4: And I'm able to say this now, I'm looking at

518
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: the camera and say it. That's one of the best

519
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: things that ever happened to me.

520
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: I never thought I would ever say that, Yeah, tell me, why,

521
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: tell me why nine months.

522
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: Because let me tell you something I got a call from.

523
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna go back to the people in the music

524
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: business that that really helped me and that really grew me.

525
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 4: Outside of my uncle Stanley Bethel, there's a young lady

526
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: by the name of Sherry Riley. She has books. She's

527
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: a very motivational person. She's just a great person, and

528
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: she helped me early on in the music business. But

529
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: outside of that, she helped me early on personally as well.

530
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: And she called me. I was in a deep depression,

531
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: had to sell my house. I just went through divorce.

532
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about that. I just went through a divorce,

533
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: sold my house, my daddy died the same day I

534
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: got sentence to federal prison. So I was in a deep,

535
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: deep depression. I didn't think I knew what depression was,

536
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: but I found out I was in a deep depression.

537
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: She called me one morning before I turned myself into

538
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: federal prison and she said, call me about five thirty

539
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: six am.

540
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: And she said, she.

541
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: Said, Jerry, what is synonymous with nine months? And I

542
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: said childbirth? And she said, God is birth in the

543
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: new U. Pay attention. Those were some of the greatest

544
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: words I ever heard. So shout out to Sherry Riley.

545
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: That's an amazing perspective.

546
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: Yes, but you can't say day three. I went to

547
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: jail one time for twenty four hours. It was a terrible,

548
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: terrible experience.

549
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: Want prison.

550
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like prison, felt like real legit.

551
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: And when Cat Williams did the interview, he said, no, no, no, no,

552
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: no no, I went to jail.

553
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: Not I went to prison. You went to jail.

554
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a difference. Huh.

555
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: Ship.

556
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't drop the soap or nothing, or I

557
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 3: had to go. I had to do it.

558
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: I had to do it. Yeah, because one of those

559
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: was that drop the sap was in your slot, that's why.

560
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: But no, but I went to and one thing I

561
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: can say, I went to a federal prison camp.

562
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: So it wasn't was it like the like FB, like

563
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: the white collar crime prison.

564
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: It was street niggas there too, But yeah, it was

565
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: a lot of white collar attorneys, doctors, bankers.

566
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: I want. I went around because I feel like.

567
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: In the fan system make at different levels. Now I

568
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: was at a camp. You got a camp, you gotta low,

569
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: you got.

570
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: A medium, you got a high. You got to put aitendency.

571
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: So I was at a camp. I was at the lowest.

572
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: So it was like luxuries.

573
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: Well, prison ain't never let imies.

574
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: That went to jail and like you could like get

575
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: them food and stuff.

576
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that happen. That didn't happen where I.

577
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: Was, Okay, So what happened in jail?

578
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: What happened that ship? I worked every day. I went

579
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: out on the base and.

580
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 4: I was on landscape and detail, and I went out

581
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: and cut gray, I played softball, I did yoga.

582
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: Well you said it wasn't it.

583
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: Wasn't great that I went, Now, hold on, it wasn't

584
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: great of going to pray. It was great of what

585
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: it did to me what I needed to get back

586
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: right spiritually and everything. I needed that situation at nine months,

587
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: like I said, Sherry Raley told me I needed a

588
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: new me birth, birth with a ED.

589
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: And that's what that did.

590
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: It birth knew me and I needed that because I

591
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: had been skating by in life, living great financially, great,

592
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: beautiful family, three kids, but it's still I was surrounding

593
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: myself with certain people that I should have and not

594
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: just that, but I was.

595
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: I just needed to be a.

596
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: Better person in that situation strengthened me spiritually, because when

597
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: you get knocked down to that canvas. I'm gonna say

598
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: it again, my daddy died the same day I got

599
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: sent as the federal prison. When I got the federal prison,

600
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: not even a maybe a month until my sentence, I

601
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: got a call that my daughter in college up in

602
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: New York had a suicide attempt.

603
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: So I was getting I'm getting hit every which way.

604
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: So I got knocked down to that campus, and sometimes

605
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: when you get knocked down to that campus, you get

606
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: knocked down to positions praying. So I'm gonna say that

607
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: it helped me spiritually and it helped me just become

608
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: a better person. I don't wish prison on nobody. That

609
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: shit is like somebody told me when I first got there.

610
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: They was like, card, you ain't really gonna be here

611
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: that long. You hear nine months, but this shit is

612
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: like being dead while you alive.

613
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: Plus nine months feels like eternity.

614
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: Right, motherfucker felt like nine years. You can't eat what

615
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: you want, you can't get no pussy, you can't be

616
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: in the streets.

617
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I did my one day in jail.

618
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I gotta rep my jail time. Okay, I did my

619
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: one day in jail. I learned about daddy's and mommy's

620
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: aka institution. Yeah, they call them daddy's and mom or

621
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: daddy's or whatever. I don't I don't remember what prostitution

622
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: languages I learned, but I learned a lot about what language.

623
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: Do you use? Okay, my bad?

624
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: All right?

625
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: Let me make your look. Let me make Can you

626
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: hand me a fork please? And I can make here.

627
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: This is your plate. You just gonna have to switch.

628
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: Don't try to hey man, don't do that. Don't do that.

629
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: I know you go throw it away. She's not gonna

630
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: eat this on camera.

631
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: I eat okay, because eighty five souths. I missed all

632
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: the good meals and then I live on.

633
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: You don't want salmonella poison, as she.

634
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: Said, that's right. Here, make your plate. I want to

635
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 3: make you got to make two plates. I want us

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: to both die together.

637
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do. What was that, Juliet? Who

638
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: did it?

639
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: I don't know?

640
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I told you. I read a little bit.

641
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: So what happens after you get out of jail, Like,

642
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: what's your first play?

643
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: I went to a halfway house for two months and

644
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: then that's required.

645
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: It depends on or were you just like homeless at

646
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: that point?

647
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: No, well I had something, No, hey, I went to

648
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: my parents. My dad had passed, so my mom was

649
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: in the house by herself. So I went there. And

650
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: one good thing going back to relationships is when you

651
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: have great relationships, people.

652
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Start calling you. So I started getting calls to.

653
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: Start back in promotion in the music business. Yeah, oh nice, Yeah, okay.

654
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so I got right back in the mix. Okay,

655
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: even though a lot of those same people treated me

656
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: like I had the Zeca.

657
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Virus, COVID twenty eight all that shit.

658
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: When I was going through my federal stuff, which I

659
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: mean looking back at it. I mean, you know, people

660
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: when they hear oh, I'm sorry, your majesty, thank you,

661
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: if you're your majesty.

662
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: See if we live through this, oh you just got

663
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: you ain't pro No, no.

664
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: We definitely need to pray there you please Jesus put

665
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: your hands to keep us from dying.

666
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: Okay, the streets is cook this.

667
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: One utensil touching the back there and meat.

668
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Yes, please look at this.

669
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Make Joe take a bite at the end of this.

670
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Look man, look at this, Look at it, Look at that.

671
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 4: Look at that ground turkey high. But let me tell

672
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: you I ain't never cutting on spaghetti like this all

673
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: because I'm.

674
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: Here with you.

675
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.

676
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: M m mm hmmm. It's the best baghadia I've never

677
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: had my wife.

678
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Hm hmm.

679
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay, hell good that ship good man.

680
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: You know there's only been seasoned with garlic powder.

681
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Soe you like on comics. I was going to tell

682
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: you to stop that bitch and get your ass in

683
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: the kitchen.

684
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: But it's okay, it's okay.

685
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: Not that bitch, and get your ass in the kitchen.

686
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: If you're this this me good though.

687
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: At waita paa.

688
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Spaghetti is good. Pause this this ground turkey.

689
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry boy, this is you from the streets, because

690
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here.

691
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: With you and say the meat is you like some

692
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: met me?

693
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: Stop.

694
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take one more bite of.

695
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: Death bes spaghetti I've had in my life. All right,

696
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: let me put my shades back on, put these days

697
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: back on. Okay, okay, make sure the oven is off.

698
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm eating this and I just want to say what

699
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: it's decent, but I am starving.

700
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: So wow, Okay, okay.

701
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: All right, okay, you get out of prison, not jail,

702
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: but it's prison camp. So it's like the baby prison.

703
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: So you're serving nine months.

704
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: I ain't seen nobody get cut up or rape.

705
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: You could drop the soap freely, yes, I could.

706
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: Did they have like solo? Yeah?

707
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: We had individuals?

708
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: Man, it was like a star or was it?

709
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: Like?

710
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: I like those prison.

711
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: Movies, like the what kind of weirdo Ships?

712
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: You were too?

713
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm all into that ship Like I like all that stuff.

714
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: I know, movies like the Addiction show.

715
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: You said the dick in a booty movie. I was like,

716
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: that's what you said, addiction. Okay, it sounded like you

717
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: said not a dick in a booty. That's what it

718
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: sounds like. You said, no, no, I'm.

719
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: Not into those type of movies. Okay, okay, but you

720
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: could safely drop the soap.

721
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 4: It was, it was, it was it for it to

722
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: be prison. It wasn't a horrible experience. I'll say that

723
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: to the point that when my kids came down and

724
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: saw me, they was like, Dad, it's.

725
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: A golf course right there. We saw horses.

726
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, there were horses.

727
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: I mean because on where I was, they have they

728
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: trained some of the inmates to careful.

729
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: Horse That's nice.

730
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but.

731
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: It was still prison. Let's not get it twisted.

732
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: So I went to prison for three thousand, five hundred dollars.

733
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: Boy, somebody here singing, y'all, Jush.

734
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: I was trying to find out where it was.

735
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know they's singing.

736
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: Where is it coming from?

737
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: The singing? Damn? This spaghetti good?

738
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Okay. So after you get out of prison, then what happens?

739
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: They came back home to Atlanta. Due to strong relationships,

740
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: people started calling me, placing me, Hey, let's do this,

741
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: let's do that, let's do this, And I jumped right

742
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: back in the mix. So Colleen, that was a great thing.

743
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: Goes back again to relationships.

744
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: That's it. You're finding heads.

745
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: Who knows, I might have been out here selling, selling,

746
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 4: selling my sausage or something to some women selling selling sausage.

747
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: To look when you when you're in the jungle, you

748
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

749
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: From a marketing perspective, we're in a new age with

750
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: social media and the way the industry is just flipped

751
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: so many times over on its head.

752
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: Do you find do you think it will be harder

753
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: for people now that they're getting into music game?

754
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Good question, it's.

755
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's harder and easier because you have,

756
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: from a technology standpoint, you have so many ways of

757
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: getting your music out to the masses. But then it

758
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: has taken away from like the really touch gorilla marketing

759
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: and cans kiss babies and just personable. It's gotten away

760
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: from that because people just they feel like with you know,

761
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: with media, I mean, with technology has to say you

762
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: can get which is.

763
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: A great thing.

764
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: I love it because a lot of people that I

765
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 4: that that have blown up when it never got found.

766
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: If it was just for the traditional way of how

767
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: I came up in a business where you.

768
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: Got to wait on somebody to sign you and.

769
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: You know, get on the ridd of now ship you can.

770
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: You can, you can create your own story. So and

771
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. So whether or not it's easy,

772
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: I would say technically just to say, I would say,

773
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: yes it is.

774
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: It's definitely easy to get.

775
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: Your music out because I can go, we can, we

776
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: can any of the DSPs me and you could do

777
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: a song and then we can put it up. Now

778
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: as far as getting out to the masses is different,

779
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: but we could steal you know, we can, or we

780
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: could do a TikTok video with our recon and it

781
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: should go viral next thing, you know.

782
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Boah.

783
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: So it's definitely now that I'm thinking about it is

784
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: it's easier now because in those days, let's just say nineties,

785
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 4: early two thousand, it was a different game.

786
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: Did you do a lot of pay to play when

787
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: it came to radio.

788
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: That's illegal.

789
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: So I've never done that. I've never done that in

790
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 4: my life. I'm looking at the camp I've never paid

791
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 4: anybody for any record play or nothing.

792
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I was in the industry. I saw a

793
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: lot of that.

794
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: You saw.

795
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: I know that you never did it.

796
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: Nobody I know, I've never done it. Nobody I know's

797
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: ever paid anybody to play record really, Okay, ever, no

798
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: people that I know.

799
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: Okay, but your stuff was all relationship.

800
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: Anyway, So you got if you got great relationships, you

801
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: can make a lot of things happen. I've never paid

802
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: nobody to play a record in my life.

803
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: So who are you working with currently right now?

804
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, I'm concentrating on my podcast, but I have an

805
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: artist that I'm working with and I'm excited about.

806
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Actually from your from the West.

807
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Coast, I'm from New York originations, So you know you

808
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: don't ever, don't ever claim West Coast on me.

809
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: You know I lived there way too long.

810
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: All right, how long you've been living on the West Coast?

811
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: That's exactly why the coast jerry about you.

812
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: But I'm just asking.

813
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: I pleaded the fifth.

814
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: Okay, what part of New York you're from?

815
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 4: Even though live from Bedford stuyve the something the livest one.

816
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: So tell me who are you currently working with?

817
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: I have an artist and I'm really excited about. First

818
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: I managed a producer. His name is July.

819
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

820
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: He just wants being my producer. Uh.

821
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: Had one of the he did the Billie Ellis record

822
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: for Armani White. Okay, so he got an award for

823
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: being my from being my last year. Then I have

824
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: an artist named Juliari from l A. Actually he's got

825
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: a song with a little baby. We're shooting the video

826
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: like in the next few days.

827
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: So so you're gonna be in my necker.

828
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: Was you shooting video here? In a line?

829
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

830
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, so if.

831
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: You want to come, you know, throwing your little no tennis,

832
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: throwing your little tennis.

833
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: Curt come out start Nope, rub the ground. I know

834
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: that was old that was old school. But yeah, so

835
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

836
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: Then.

837
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: Of course, the one thing that I'm most.

838
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: Excited about this the podcast.

839
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, storytime of legendary podcast.

840
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: So what can people expect when they hear your podcast.

841
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: The South Narrative.

842
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: I needed to tell our give our narrative, and tell

843
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: our narrative, and tell my story because there's so many

844
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: stories that have been told him and not only myself,

845
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: but we have been left out.

846
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: And we just celebrated fifty years of hip hop.

847
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: And half those years arguably because me and t I

848
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: just had this argument on the episode on Storytime Leedgsday year.

849
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: The South has controlled the narrative.

850
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? The narrative run this ship, man,

851
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: Oh we run this South.

852
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, between Houston, Memphis, Miami.

853
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: New Orleans for twenty five years and lined up at

854
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: lined by itself damn near ran.

855
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: So we have for half of these fifty years of this.

856
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 3: Hip hop Why is the only half?

857
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying is we've we've can we We've

858
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: definitely controlled the narrative for twenty five.

859
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: Of these years, for half of these It just is

860
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: what it is.

861
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: You can hate it whatever I know. You know New

862
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: Yak cast Nigga, y'all go nah nah we.

863
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, like when you said control the narrative for

864
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: hip hop rap.

865
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: For the last twenty five years, Colleen, the South has

866
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: hold on. Yeah, No, jay Z fifty, I love all

867
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: of those. Got DMX come on, But you look at

868
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 4: it between I mean you you look at from cash

869
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: Money that no limit to everything coming out of Memphis,

870
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: and I can go on, I can have a whole

871
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: show just talking about Atlanta. Okay, Well we done from

872
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: our cast on Okay, so Chris crossing our cast from

873
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: nineties and TLC to USh.

874
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: We can we can go on, we can have a whole.

875
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: From where here. TLC's from here.

876
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: Come on, that's a freaking.

877
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: Out no way. I don't know why I didn't know that,

878
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: all right, okay, okay, you know that I know they

879
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: live here now.

880
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 2: I just nil lately with.

881
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: So sad is that I would have thought tl C

882
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: was from like.

883
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 2: Where you being man for you not to know tl

884
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: C is from.

885
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, huge t C fan. I don't know

886
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: why I missed.

887
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: It, but I was very young from.

888
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: My gosh, all right, you are, I claim a little

889
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: bit of upstate.

890
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: To Yeah, you better because you're not from Brooklyn to

891
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: but you didn't know t C.

892
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: You know what.

893
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I just remember I was a huge t l C fan.

894
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Let me take passed and then I checked out that

895
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: that's okay, ship, I'm getting you were.

896
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: If you were a huge t l C fan, you

897
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: would know that they were from the a I was.

898
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: But tl C when tl C was around, I was

899
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: really young. I will say that.

900
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't start liking hip hop to, so my

901
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: first real love for hip.

902
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: Didn't start till J until J and I didn't get

903
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 3: onto J. I didn't get onto j till.

904
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: Yes, he had been out damn that came by that time.

905
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: After Lisa passed, it was a rap I was done with.

906
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: She passed in two thousand five.

907
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: I forgot.

908
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: No, she didn't pass in two thousand and five and

909
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: four she passed when I was in high school.

910
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: It was like two thousand and one, two thousand. I

911
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: know because I remember everybody calling me like, are you.

912
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of TLC? Perfect?

913
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: Perfect segu I have t BOS and TLC coming up

914
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: on one of the next episodes, the story.

915
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: I try to get her while I was out here.

916
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: Look at you. You got all the plugs I need

917
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: to live in your roller decks.

918
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: I mean, well, you come up and get on the

919
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: streets with me, maybe store together. You had to do

920
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: a little bit more than okay, bad, the streets is

921
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 4: watching my bad.

922
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: I had to man an.

923
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Agreience that he's for the streets were all right, we're

924
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: an agence.

925
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: No I'm not. I'm I'm a straight school. We're just

926
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: out here trying to leave my basics.

927
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: That's what every street it is.

928
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: My kids are grown.

929
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: So what are some good stories that you've seen behind

930
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: the scenes that I can have a good chuckle at Well.

931
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to tune in and watch.

932
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: Unlike you saying you were a TLC fan and not

933
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: knowing every from Atlanta, You're gonna have to watch or

934
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: listen because I'm never confessed.

935
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't perpetrate. Don't perpetrate.

936
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: See you old enough to say that word, because young

937
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 4: folks wouldn't even say that.

938
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: So they tell you you're in the demo.

939
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: My dema.

940
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: But you gotta tune in. Here's so many stories, just

941
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: like recently when Pastor Troy.

942
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: Was on, he said he did the ad libs for

943
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 4: Justin Timberlake's Cry Me a River.

944
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: This fucked me up. I didn't know.

945
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that was good. I didn't know

946
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: that that was confessed on your show. Huh yeah, So

947
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: we gotta listen to your show.

948
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: But even like I had Princess from Crime I know

949
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: you Crime Mob, not to I know you was dancing

950
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 4: that in.

951
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: High school, thank god.

952
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: So I just had Princess from Crime Mob on storyte

953
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: with Legendary Jerry.

954
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: She said the reason that they broke up was two

955
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: females in the group.

956
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: Maybe you didn't know for those listening watching her and

957
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: Diamond the reason that the group broke up because she

958
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: told Diamond that Michael Jackson was getting on a remix

959
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: of Knuck of You Buck and.

960
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: Was at their house at the studio where they were.

961
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: Over here in Atlanta, and she came there and they

962
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: told her she was joking. They told Diamond that they

963
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: were joking. They said that Michael Jackson was getting on.

964
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: He was there at the house and he was getting

965
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: on a remix of Knuck of You Buck. And they

966
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: fell out and the group of platinum selling group broke

967
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: up over that.

968
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

969
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: According to Princess from Crime Mob, she said that was

970
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: the reason that they broke up, and I'm not gonna

971
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 4: dispute it because I want there because I know Princess

972
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: is a stand up person, won't lie. So a platinum

973
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: selling group broke up because they said Michael Jackson over

974
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: here doing it and they said, Bubbles the monkey is

975
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: over here on the ad libs and they say, she

976
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 4: ran down the street and got there and Michael Jackson

977
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: and Bubbles wasn't there, and the group broke up to

978
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: them the type stories you're gonna get story time with

979
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: legendary Jerry.

980
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: What made you get into podcasting.

981
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 4: I was getting ready to go to federal prison, and

982
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: I was just thinking of ways to reinvent myself.

983
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: When I came home and DJ Drama.

984
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: I was at his studio my night with him and

985
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: Canon since and I was gearinganted might have been a

986
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: week before I was turning myself in a couple of weeks. Father,

987
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: I was turning myself into federal prison. He said, you

988
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: should do a podcast, and I really didn't know. I knew,

989
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 4: but I didn't know. Of course, with the way combat

990
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 4: Jack has paved the way for podcasts and especially with

991
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: people that look like us, I had knew about it

992
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: because I had.

993
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: Listened to some of his stuff, but I really didn't know.

994
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: So when I came home twenty seventeen, I said, heh

995
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 4: let me get a couple of mics and a couple

996
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: of cameras and my ship was so bootleged.

997
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: Looking, lighting was bad, the sound was fucking my shit.

998
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: But I had like huge guests, so people was like,

999
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: how fuck is he getting all these folks on his

1000
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: show and his shit like you know when you first started.

1001
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: But now look I have a new deal. I'm here

1002
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: on your.

1003
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Show, and I heart reached out to you on this

1004
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: new deal this time, right, Yes, So it was a

1005
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: random Tuesday, you get the call.

1006
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: Well, I had already developed a relationship with somebody over there,

1007
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: and we just had been linking up and talking until

1008
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: finally he said, I want to I want you if

1009
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: I can monetize this for you, will you be interested

1010
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 4: in doing the deal? And something about that word monetization

1011
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: that does something to me. Oh shit, it's like some

1012
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: pussy monetization.

1013
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: I love that word.

1014
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: I want us to be able to do a whole

1015
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: clip of just you, and we're just gonna just do

1016
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: it all about the streets on you but.

1017
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: Going, damn you do an episode of the screen.

1018
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: No, it's it's literally we got to figure out a

1019
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: way to do a clip where it's just dedicated to

1020
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: you and women. Now, okay, so the monetization, yeah, does

1021
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: something to you?

1022
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah it does? Oh boy, Oh it swelled me up.

1023
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: But anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, so but but look listen.

1024
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: So that's when I said, all right, because I'm sorry.

1025
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: I had stopped taking my show. And like I said,

1026
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 4: I've had some huge guests from Uncle Luke to kill

1027
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: a mic Uh, to the Dream to a gangst the booth.

1028
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: I've had huge, huge guests on my show.

1029
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: Bumb and you're you're booking them all yourself, right because

1030
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you're just calling text okay. And they didn't mind, the

1031
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: homies didn't mind if the platform wasn't set up correctly

1032
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: the first time around at all.

1033
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: They were just support yeah okay.

1034
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: And so I was able to now transition into this

1035
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: new deal.

1036
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: And now here we are and I'm excited about the relaunch.

1037
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeh, when does the launch?

1038
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: We launched this is the four it's been launched.

1039
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: For three weeks now, had Pastor Troy, had the Young

1040
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: Bloods t I just dropped, and then I got t

1041
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: Boss from TLC coming.

1042
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: I got a lot of freaking exciting Do you pre

1043
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: tape a lot?

1044
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: Yes, That's what I do because, as you know, not

1045
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: being funny, dealing with talent, dealing with yeah, we're dealing

1046
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: with talent can be a little.

1047
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Tricky at times.

1048
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, especially I find it when you're dealing

1049
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: with them on the text and the relationship.

1050
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: They tend to.

1051
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 4: Show up late, canceled last minute, Yeah, thirty minutes. I'm

1052
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: on the way, and then I'm not gonna be there.

1053
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 4: Can we do it tomorrow. So those type of things happen.

1054
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: So it has caused me a lot of anxiety over

1055
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: the years. But the fact is I still have these

1056
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 4: relationships and I know that they're willing to do this

1057
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: show for me, and that makes me continue you to go.

1058
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm so excited about this show.

1059
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: And I want to grow it. And you know, I'm

1060
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: glad that I'm able to be on this show. Because

1061
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: I walked and I said this off camera, maybe I didn't.

1062
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: I watched some clips of you on Instagram, and you

1063
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: got a gift. Like I know, we've been talking a

1064
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: lot of shit, you got a real life gift. So

1065
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: I was like, when I was watching, I went through

1066
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: and watched a bunch of clips. I was like, Okay,

1067
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: she good, So I gotta step my ship up straight up.

1068
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

1069
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

1070
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: I always in my head, So thank you. That means

1071
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: a lot to me.

1072
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: That was all.

1073
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: That was the streets. He's like, yo, I got the

1074
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: closest deal before.

1075
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: No, but look at him now, he's looking to the

1076
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: ceiling for the Lord when I say the Lord every

1077
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: time we talk.

1078
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: Then, but no, I did no, seriously, I said, you

1079
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: got a gift man, and I was like, no, seriously,

1080
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 4: because I when I first got into it, I was.

1081
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Like over talking all the yeahs. I was like, I didn't.

1082
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: I was just home somebody I didn't know. I was

1083
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: just think.

1084
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: So my mentor was like, go and watch other people's shows.

1085
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: Go watch Larry King live.

1086
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1087
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: He's like, go watch like Charlemagne and and just see

1088
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 4: how you know. So that's how when I watched. So

1089
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: that's when I went and went through.

1090
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: When I was scrolling, I watched a bunch of clips.

1091
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: I said, damn, she good. That said she's good. I

1092
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: don't know how long you've been doing it, but whatever,

1093
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: it's good.

1094
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just started.

1095
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: But I love people's stories and people's journeys, and I

1096
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: really like the hero's journey, like where it's like you're

1097
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: rooting for the hero but they fall and then they

1098
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: find the strength to get back up and then they

1099
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: fall again. And I like your story a lot. Obviously

1100
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: there's moments that we didn't get to really touch on, I.

1101
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: Feel, but yeah, we covered a lot though.

1102
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean because personally and professionally, I continue to grow.

1103
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: God continues to bless me.

1104
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: So you know, from Chicago, to first coming into the

1105
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 4: music business in the early nine these, to raising a family,

1106
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: to going to prison and bouncing back.

1107
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: From that, and what was the hardest thing that you

1108
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: went through personally and professionally, And it could be separate times.

1109
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: I mean, well, all that personally is all tied in

1110
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 4: back to you know, all that situation happening that once

1111
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: with you know what happened, the situation with my daughter

1112
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: in college and me going away to the FEDS, and

1113
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: you know, because it was I felt like I let

1114
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 4: my dad and my mom down, because I felt like

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Speaker 4: I embarrassed the family, and I felt like I let

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Speaker 4: my kids down.

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Speaker 2: So that hit me like a ton of bricks.

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Speaker 4: Because you got to understand, they were all in h well,

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00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: my daughter was a freshman in college. My other two

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: were in high school. So you gotta understand they going

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00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 4: to they going to school.

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: Teachers asked them, he tell your daddy on the news.

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Speaker 2: You know, all that.

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Speaker 4: Really activate that concern, but they really getting fucking nosy.

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Speaker 4: Uh So I was I was embarrassed. I felt like

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Speaker 4: I let my children down. I felt like I let

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00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: my mom and daddy. I couldn't tell I told my

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Speaker 4: dad on his deathbed.

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Speaker 2: I know he heard me.

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Speaker 4: I apologize, like profusely, like I just kept saying I'm

1131
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: sorry because I felt like I let him down and

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00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: he did so fucking much for me to put me

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Speaker 4: in a position to win in life. So for me

1134
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: to you know, even though the people are, oh, man,

1135
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: you went to do a short time in the field,

1136
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: that ain't shit, you know.

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00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: But still did your ex wife at the time, did

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: she were you guys on decent terms where she could

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00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: give you some inspiration at all?

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: Not at all? And nine years later we still not.

1141
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 2: But that's just fine.

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00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 4: We have we have three beautiful kids, and I just

1143
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: want to have a great cordial relationship, cordial relationship with

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: her because our kids are our young adults and I'm

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00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: sure we're gonna be grandparents one day and have to

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00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: go to weddings, and I just want to be cordial.

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't never speak about her because

1148
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: she's not here to defend anything. So it's you know,

1149
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: it would just be one side. But I'm great. I'm

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: in a great space in life personally and.

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: Profession And I was gonna say, is your professional hardest point?

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00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Is it the same? At that time too? The jail

1153
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: situation or was there another point?

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: There were other points. There was another point earlier in

1155
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: my career when I had a situation where I was

1156
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 4: working independent, working as an independent contractor for a label,

1157
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: and I had signed a contract to get paid a monthly.

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00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 4: I think it was ten or fifteen thousand a month.

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00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: I forgot what it was and they got behind so

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00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: much so many months on my payment that everything in

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00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: my house I went into potential foreclosure. Eventually it was

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00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 4: paid and I got it out. But like things like that,

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00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 4: that was a challenging professionally win. And you know these

1164
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: are these are labels to have never ended money. I

1165
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: mean they got so it just put me, you know,

1166
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 4: I look at things like that, situations that put me

1167
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: in a hard position, like cornered me where I was like,

1168
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, I'm doing the work, y'all four

1169
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: or five months back on paying me, Like I just

1170
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: think that's bullshit.

1171
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Did you see the I'm sure you saw the n

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: W A movie where ice Cube went in there.

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: So as an entrepreneur, this is yes.

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00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: And when I say this as an entrepreneur, I stress

1175
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: this to every entrepreneur. You cannot predict when someone holds

1176
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: your money, and that ship is painful because I'm like, imagine,

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00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: if someone owes you three months worth of money, you

1178
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: can't necessarily call them up and be like, motherfucker.

1179
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: You owe me this money.

1180
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, so I need the money, you know,

1181
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: And you got to hear their excuses.

1182
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: You eat what you kill, yeah, entrepreneur, you eat what

1183
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: you kill.

1184
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's different than just getting that every

1185
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: other Friday diregular pause in the.

1186
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: Money going to the Fall. One came up, like, you

1187
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: eat what you fucking killed.

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00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: But when you when you saw the ice Cube movie

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: and he did the bad thing.

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't hear that.

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00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I don't know if it

1192
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: was true, but man, the entrepreneur in me was like.

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Yes, get it, swing it, break it, And I was like,

1194
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get it.

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00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: The streets boy, the streets is live in you. But yeah, no,

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: when I saw that scene, I didn't know if it

1197
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: was real or not. That you know. But but that.

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: Situations that I've I've seen working at a label where situations.

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Speaker 2: Happened like that.

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00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I hear Rihanna's bitch better have my money

1202
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: I'll be like someone did. There was inspiration behind that ship,

1203
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm kidnapping your wife.

1204
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.

1205
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: Young black men in this music business that a lot

1206
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: of us are rough around the edges. So you know

1207
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: when you when you play with our money. It's really

1208
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: a lot of these people, these executives and these higher upies,

1209
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 4: they was the only thing they respect is violence.

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00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: And it's sad to say.

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: Cat told me years ago he was that the only

1212
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: the only thing that a lot of people in this

1213
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: bus respect is money and violence.

1214
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: But I just do right, man, just do stand up.

1215
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah that's it.

1216
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can all make some money. We can all,

1217
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 4: but unfortunately everybody they don't do it. And like you

1218
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: just said, when you're an entrepreneur, you eat what you kill.

1219
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: So you can easily get.

1220
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: Thrown into the jungle where you in survival mode. And

1221
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: with you, like you said, you have a child.

1222
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: When you're in survival mode, I'm sure you move a

1223
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: lot differently. I ain't gonna play with me and my daughter.

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00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, but I will say this. I've worked

1225
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: for companies but they didn't pay me for six months a.

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00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: Year and been like an independent contract as an independent contract.

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: There's some but in white white, all white people, I'll

1228
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: be like, yo, I'm gonna pull up to the gas station.

1229
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm calling you to fill my car in a minute,

1230
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: like getting up in older white people's face, like it

1231
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: is a.

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: Problem, sir. They owe me thousands and thousands and thousands

1233
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: of dollars if you.

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: Just yeah, that ain't cool.

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00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 3: It ain't cool. But I do think it does happen

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: across small table industry, so for sure, definitely.

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00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: And I always tell people now, like when I look

1238
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: at business, I take on big clients and small. I

1239
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: never discriminate on the small because you'd be surprised when

1240
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: your cash flow gets messed up, how that small business

1241
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: is the one that that really saves you.

1242
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: But shout outs to you, Shout out to you because

1243
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: you've got a great show man.

1244
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, I now you gotta you got a

1245
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: new listener.

1246
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: Now, thanks, and you got a new listener.

1247
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: Be I'm gonna because you got n the streets.

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00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna we gotta, we gotta,

1249
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: we gotta do some work together. But the next time

1250
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: we together, you know, if if the roles ever.

1251
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: Put us in the situation where someone's cooking.

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's gonna be spaghetti.

1253
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: I make a good spaghetti. Man. I don't know what

1254
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: this Uh.

1255
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: What kind of sauce you put in?

1256
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: I put I even met the streets is watching? Oh

1257
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: all right, thank you so much.

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01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: Let me figure out a nice play on how we're

1259
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna close out this.

1260
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: So let's see eating.

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: Hanging in the streets with mister legendary Broke. Eat, Peace out,

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: y'all out. For more eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and

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01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: The Black Effect, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or

1264
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: wherever

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,880
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