WEBVTT - How the Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of um? Oh? Man, now that I

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<v Speaker 1>say it, I realized I don't know the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the brand. But you know those like cough drops that

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<v Speaker 1>are actually like candy, but they market them as cough drops,

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<v Speaker 1>the cherry flavored ones. M No, I mean like they're

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<v Speaker 1>literal candy. Um no, but it's basically the most delicious

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<v Speaker 1>jolly rancher you've ever had. It lacks the sour, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all sweet. So it's green apple. No, they're red. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember what they're called. People are screaming at their um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well their phones, their tablets, their computers. Right now, settled down, everybody, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we chuck and I agree with you. This is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the worst intro we've ever done. And Jerry does too.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to it, shall we. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>aurora's today. Yeah, and generally we're talking about the two

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<v Speaker 1>most famous auroras. Uh And I say too, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to give I don't want to short

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<v Speaker 1>change the Aurora Australis. No, it definitely does get short changed,

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<v Speaker 1>though totally. Did you Did you come upon why? I

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<v Speaker 1>came upon the explanation a couple of times? Oh about why? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I didn't. But I'm gonna have a guess. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have it. Is it not quite as magnificent? Nope?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there not as many people there? Yes? There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>There are fewer. There's there's less land around the South

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<v Speaker 1>Pole as there is around the North Pole. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say the magnetic South and North pole. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's fewer eyes to see it, so the grandeur of

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<v Speaker 1>it is is um less obvious too as many people.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's that's why the Northern Lights get all

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<v Speaker 1>the all the top billing. Plus, no one ever named

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<v Speaker 1>a strain of weed after the Aurora Australis out about

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Southern Lights, what is that? I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>there's one. There's a poison. There a like a head

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<v Speaker 1>shop in Atlanta called Southern Lights. I think it's a bookstore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh got it? Wink wink. Oh yeah, but where you

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<v Speaker 1>can where you can buy rush and spice books. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't understand. I'm just kidding. Let's see. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that like a code for something? Well, I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were giving me the code, Chuck. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real bookstore, gardening books. This is the most confused I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been on this show. Like we're on a cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone and have to keep things, you know, straight up?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, let's get back to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to confuse you so Auroras, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you is uh comes through Um

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<v Speaker 1>the the there are two and Chuck apparently until very

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<v Speaker 1>re cerently. It was assumed because people couldn't see him

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, but it was assumed that there

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<v Speaker 1>the northern lights that you were seeing the Aurora borealis. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could simultaneously see the Aurora Australias, you would

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<v Speaker 1>be seeing a mirror image of one another. And they

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<v Speaker 1>recently found out that that's absolutely not true at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They finally got someone down there to look some some

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<v Speaker 1>poor sap had to run. He's like, no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>way way too different. It's not the same. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly know how they do it. They must have observed

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<v Speaker 1>it from space, but they saw They are convinced now

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not a mirror image any longer. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is it's not that surprising that they're just now

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<v Speaker 1>kind of um figuring that out, because it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>too terribly long ago that people thought the aurora was

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<v Speaker 1>things like a giant camp fire on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ocean being reflected in the sky or um uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the sun's rays peeking up from under

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<v Speaker 1>the earth where it was day when it was night

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<v Speaker 1>where you were. Um. There's been a lot of explanations,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them goofier than others. Um, But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until I think the nineteenth century that we really figured

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<v Speaker 1>out what was going on. And it was a dude

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<v Speaker 1>in Norway, appropriately enough, because Norway is a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Northern Lights. Yeah. I mean they've been

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<v Speaker 1>around obviously, since there have been people to watch them,

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<v Speaker 1>since ancient times, people have been observing them. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, when you know, when you're talking about indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>peoples and vikings and things, they're gonna have, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a more limited understanding of science, so they

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<v Speaker 1>had all these uh, fanciful descriptions of what they might be.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, are you talking about the first person to

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<v Speaker 1>use the term are you talking about? No? Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>jumped past him and he definitely deserves pop, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about him. Yeah, Pierre Pierre Gasindi or Galileo and

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<v Speaker 1>Galileo Galilee apparently at the same around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>both witnessed the September twelfth, nine sixty one display, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>both kind of you know, put it in their own

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<v Speaker 1>words how wonderful it was. But it wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>believe you were talking about eighteen physicist name Christian Birkeland

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<v Speaker 1>in Norway. Yeah, I think it was sixteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>What did I say, Oh man, Yeah, okay, And they

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<v Speaker 1>saw it on Yeah, they saw it on the same night, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both went out and I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>were having a conversation and then both ran out to

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<v Speaker 1>write it down. It seems like they simultaneously came up

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<v Speaker 1>with this idea at the same time from seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>on the same date. Is that is that correct? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they both saw the same uh fantastic display

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<v Speaker 1>on the same night, but they both came up with

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<v Speaker 1>the same idea to name it Aurora Borealis. Oh. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know. They share credit, which to me

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<v Speaker 1>means they probably don't know right and would just feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad giving it to one of them. Yeah, because history

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<v Speaker 1>has riddled with that kind of thing where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody says, oh no, it was really Alexander Graham Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and Elijah Gray. There's definitely no winner in that. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of them said I say, Aurora, you say,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went Borealis and they had got a little

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<v Speaker 1>chant going. It was like a Beastie Boys concert. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>so they it was that the what was the Norwegian

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<v Speaker 1>scientists who Kidistian Berkeland. So they were already called the

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Lights from at least the Renaissance on um or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that would be pre Renaissance, didn't Galileo helped

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<v Speaker 1>kick off the Renaissance. I think he cut the ribbon.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, Christian Berkeland he was the one who he

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<v Speaker 1>came up with the modern interpretation of what the auroras are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was pretty right too, I agree, like he just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he just pulled this one out

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<v Speaker 1>of his hat or what, but he definitely he he

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<v Speaker 1>decided that what the aurora auroras are aurora Apparently you

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<v Speaker 1>put it a E on the end, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you pluralize it. When um, he figured out that they

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<v Speaker 1>have something to do with electrons in outer space interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with the magnetosphere around Earth. And it turns out he

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely right. Yeah, he recreated this in a vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>chamber successfully, but he wasn't a percent right he I

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<v Speaker 1>think he said that, um, and we'll get to this later,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Aurora borealis and auroras in general are have

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<v Speaker 1>a characteristic shape, which is an oval ring. And he

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<v Speaker 1>did not know this at the time, because he thought

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<v Speaker 1>that these electrons were coming from the sun, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not quite true. No, no, it's not. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more complex than that. Like, his interpretation of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was pretty seemed to be correct, and you actually

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<v Speaker 1>run into it here there. I saw it on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of pretty respectable sites that were basically giving the

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<v Speaker 1>Berkeland interpretation of aurora um phenomenon. But it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>there's an extra step in there that he didn't account for.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to talk about the magnetosphere real quick? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think quickly that we should shout out one more researcher. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was nineteen sixty four. There was a grad

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<v Speaker 1>student in Japan name Uh, Well you want to you

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<v Speaker 1>always take our Japanese you want to do that one? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Shoon Ichi Aka Sofu, very nice, thank you. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>he actually in nineteen sixty four saw these photos, examined them,

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<v Speaker 1>examined them closely, and notice that they were rings. And

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that he was the first one to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>these things are oval. I think he actually predicted them

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<v Speaker 1>that they would be oval mathematically without even observing him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then yeah, then once we started going into

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<v Speaker 1>space and looking at from satellites. They said, yep, aka

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<v Speaker 1>Sofu was right through math dude. He was like, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a ring. And it turns out he's right

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<v Speaker 1>and the the the So what you're seeing with the

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<v Speaker 1>northern lights and the southern lights, um are actually connections

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<v Speaker 1>toward ovals that go around the North pole and the

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<v Speaker 1>South pole. And what what it is again, it's it's particles,

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<v Speaker 1>highly charged particles from out of space interacting with the magnetosphere. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you're ready to talk about the magnetosphere. So

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<v Speaker 1>the this is kind of astounding to me. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely certain why the Earth has a magnetic field from

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<v Speaker 1>what I can tell. Did you know that? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they have their idea, but um, they're not positive right.

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<v Speaker 1>That astounds me. Um Supposedly from the rotation of molten

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<v Speaker 1>iron in the outer core inside the Earth, UM that

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<v Speaker 1>generates this electrical field that surrounds the Earth, the magnetosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the current hypothesis. It's probably right, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't know exactly what creates the magnetosphere around

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth is just weird to me. Yeah, I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you there, So what with this whatever is causing it.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that there's a magnetic shield basically around Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that is probably caused by that that iron rotating

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Earth. And this magnetic shield has helped preserve Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>like we would not be here if the magnetosphere wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>The atmosphere probably wouldn't be around Earth if the magnetosphere

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. It protects us from bursts of radiation of

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<v Speaker 1>highly charged um ions and and particles that are blasted

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<v Speaker 1>out from the Sun and are just traveling throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar System from other stars and we're bombarded. Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>bombarded by the stuff constantly, and Um, the magnetosphere acts

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<v Speaker 1>to actually um deflect most of it, a lot of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need the magnetosphere. So we've got this thing surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>us and and it's great. It keeps us alive. But

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<v Speaker 1>it also creates the basis for um for Aurora aurora. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so how this happens, um, It sounds kind

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<v Speaker 1>of complicated, but it's really not. When you look at it. UM, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's the Sun is like this big

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<v Speaker 1>ball of gas. It constantly spits out and burps out

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things in the form of energy and

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<v Speaker 1>um radiation and what's called the solar wind, solar flares,

0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.840
<v Speaker 1>coronal mass ejections. Uh. And we talked about all of

0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this in various episodes, but notably our terrible episode on

0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the Sun, our legendary episode. Anything that has anything remotely

0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to do with the Sun is usually a poor episode

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Uh. And, like you said, most of the

0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.120
<v Speaker 1>time these things get deflected, but sometimes some of the

0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:30.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff gets trapped in the magnetosphere, right, well, or so

0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.480
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that's being spit out from the Sun, it's

0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it's plasma, right, which is the

0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>fourth state of matter. And that's like highly charged particles

0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that hit the magnetosphere. And when they hit the magnetosphere,

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they basically transfer their current to the magnetosphere. They produced

0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:52.120
<v Speaker 1>an electrical charge in it. That's right, And all kinds

0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.280
<v Speaker 1>of fun stuff happens once that happens. And so what, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the Berkland interpretation basically kind of starts

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<v Speaker 1>to diver It's right. So Berkland's idea was those particles

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<v Speaker 1>travel through the magnets for down the field lines of

0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the Earth's magnetic field and um. They directly create the

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<v Speaker 1>um the aurora. Yeah, Like if you looked at if

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<v Speaker 1>you could see the magnetic field around the Earth, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have a big, long whiskey tail sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>it would sort of look like a comet surrounding the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth and these magnetic lines that it travels. Once it

0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.520
<v Speaker 1>hits those field lines, it goes along that that path

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<v Speaker 1>on the northern and southern poles, right, so down that

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<v Speaker 1>tail and if you if you so, the reason that

0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it has that tail. On the one side, it's squished

0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and the the it's it goes it's about six to

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<v Speaker 1>eight earth radii outside of the Earth, in between the

0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Earth and the Sun, but it's being pressed up against

0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, threats being squished on the sun side. On

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<v Speaker 1>the night side, that tail is being formed, and apparently

0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that's extraordinarily long. It goes well well past the Moon,

0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.240
<v Speaker 1>something like up to a thousand earth radii past the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth on the other side. Right, But if there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>solar wind and the Earth's magnetosphere just formed, I think

0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it's natural shape and there was no pressure from the

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<v Speaker 1>solar wind on it. What you would see if you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at it from outer space is so the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth is a dipole magnet You've got the positive in

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<v Speaker 1>the negative one on each pole. Right, it would look

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<v Speaker 1>like the Earth's magnetosphere would look like an eight on

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<v Speaker 1>its side to where the top of the eight was

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<v Speaker 1>coming out the left side of the Earth and the

0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.800
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the eighth would be coming off of the

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<v Speaker 1>right side. There and where they came together would be

0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Earth's magnetic poles. And where those the magnetosphere comes in

0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>contact with the Earth at the poles are what it

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<v Speaker 1>called the polar cusps. And apparently this is basically a

0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:02.440
<v Speaker 1>direct pipeline, a funnel for particles to go right toward

0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the polls. And that's why particles tend to accumulate, or

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<v Speaker 1>the northern lights tend to um accumulate and be seen

0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.240
<v Speaker 1>every night at these poles in rings, because they're being

0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.159
<v Speaker 1>funneled there by the magnetosphere. Yeah, it's like when uh

0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in the original Star Wars and New Hope when Luke

0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.639
<v Speaker 1>fires at the end toward the Death Star and it

0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and he gets sucked in that little hole that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the polar cusp of the Death Star. That is a

0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:32.119
<v Speaker 1>great analogy. So let's take a break, shall we. I'm

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>hanging on here by my fingernails, and I need to

0:17:34.720 --> 0:18:01.359
<v Speaker 1>regain myself. I think they call this a cliffhanger. All right,

0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.080
<v Speaker 1>so we're back to describe the second part of how

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>this works. Yes, and more. Uh So, when this charge

0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>it's cutting across this magnetic field, following those lines toward

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the it's actually called the magnet magneto tail. I can't

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>believe they actually named it that. It's great. Uh And

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like you said from the beginning, it generates this electric

0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>current and as it goes it generates more and more currents,

0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.880
<v Speaker 1>just sort of building up current until it hits the ionosphere. Right,

0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.679
<v Speaker 1>So here's this really important step, right, And berklen knew this.

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.840
<v Speaker 1>He he guessed this, but he we'll we'll explain what

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you got wrong after we explain what's right. How about that? So,

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:50.720
<v Speaker 1>when um, these particles charge the magnetosphere, there's particles that

0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>are already trapped in the the magnetosphere already, right, And

0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>when solar winds and plasma and these highly charged particles

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>hit the magnetosphere and electrify it, it kind of shakes

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>loose these trapped particles, right. Yeah, Well, these trapped particles

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.240
<v Speaker 1>are ions, meaning they have either an extra electron or

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they're missing an electron, but either way they're not neutral.

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They have a charge positive or negative charge. And those

0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>things go careening through the magnetosphere toward Earth, down through

0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere, and when they hit the atmosphere, they start

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>interacting with some of the atoms and molecules, specifically oxygen

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.879
<v Speaker 1>and nitrogen in the Earth's atmosphere. And when they do, baby,

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.159
<v Speaker 1>they release photons. That's right, And that that outer region,

0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the ionospheres where most of that oxygen and nitrogen is

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you're right. They get together and have a

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a party. They exchange some energy with

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 1>one another, uh, get to know one another a little bit.

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.240
<v Speaker 1>And that absorption of energy by the oxygen and nitrogen

0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>ions it gets those electrons, it gets their electrons excite it, right,

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So they the um oxygen and nitrogen they have like uh,

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they have electrons orbiting them, right, But they're just in

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this low level orbit. It's like a whatever kind of energy, right,

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a party that hasn't started yet. It

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is this is kind of hanging out. Maybe the pizza

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 1>hasn't arrived yet. Um, that kind of thing. So the

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>when the when the ions arrived though, they're bringing the pizza,

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and then some they're bringing the northern lights with them, right, Um,

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and they they get the party started, those electrons in

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the lower orbit suddenly move up to a larger orbit

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 1>further out. And when that happens, energy has been gained. Right. Yeah,

0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's called a high energy orbital Okay, So when that happens,

0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:50.679
<v Speaker 1>it's basically destined to come back to its lower energy orbit. Right.

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>The party has got to end at some point because

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to get tired, they need to go home. The Sun's

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>coming up, that kind of thing. So either by it

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.640
<v Speaker 1>changes in the vacuum state or because of the application

0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of an external electrical field that orbit, that electron goes

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>back to its original lower orbit. When it does, since

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gained energy, and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Um,

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that has to go somewhere, And it goes somewhere by

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the production or the emission I should say, of a photon,

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a packet of light. So light is emitted when that

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.439
<v Speaker 1>electron goes back down to its lower or after the

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>party's over, that's right. And because oxygen ions radiate red

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and yellow light, nitrogen ions radiate red, blue, and violet light.

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Depending on where you are, This can happen at different

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>UM I guess different altitudes. UH blue and violet UM

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 1>generally less than seventy two miles kilometers, green is going

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to be sight milesight kilometers, and then redh more than

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 1>a hundred eight miles, which is about a hundred and

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 1>eighty kilometers, So that accounts for the different colors. If

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you look up or if you've ever been lucky enough

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>to see one of the auroras um, either the Australias

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>or Borealis, you're gonna see My favorite is the green,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.959
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna see all kinds of um, blue, green, violet,

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and red lights. Well, and apparently the green just confounded

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 1>scientists because they're like, wait, so, yeah, oxygen radiates red

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and yellow light. That's that's great. Nitrogen is is red,

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.120
<v Speaker 1>blue and violet. Got that, But where is this green

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 1>coming from? They couldn't link at any particular atom or molecule,

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they realized that it has to do with

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the rarefied air in the upper upper atmosphere, that the

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the conditions found up there are not going to be

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>found anywhere else on Earth. UM and that it's actually

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it is oxygen atoms and oxygen molecules producing the green.

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>You just wouldn't see it anywhere else but specifically up

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.959
<v Speaker 1>in the upper atmosphere. Yeah, well it's oxygen and nitrogen

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have something to do with it. I saw it

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was just oxygen emitting the green, Okay, but the I mean, yes,

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>nitrogen produces some of the other colors. Yeah. So, uh,

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're watching these, if you're one of the people,

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they very in brightness, you know they can right now.

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>And actually for a while now, we've been in a

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty low uh what's it called the solar cycle. Yeah,

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we've been in a kind of a bummer of a

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>solar cycle for a while now, and these auroras haven't

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>been nearly as spectacular as they have been in years

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 1>past because of that. I think they peaked in two

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve, but even that that was a solar

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>maximum that when it peaked and it started to decline.

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.719
<v Speaker 1>So solar cycle happens every eleven years, and we're starting

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>up our twenty third one now. Um, but this past one,

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the twenty second one, was like the lowest in a century.

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>It was the weakest one in a cential. Yeah, the

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>weakest maximum even but even still weren't there. Couldn't you

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 1>see northern lights once in a while, like fairly far

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a few years back. I don't remember. I stily here.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>You can see it in or that at times, you

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>can see them in the southern United States, but I

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>don't remember seeing them ever. I don't either, And supposedly

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>there was a date in either or nine nine where

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>they were visible from Cuba that they were that far south.

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That might be as far south as has ever been recorded. Actually,

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but normally you can see them the closer to the

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>poles you are, so specifically, uh, in the North Pole

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>or South Pole, the Arctic or Antarctica, you can see

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>them basically every night. Um, there are specific conditions to

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>where they're more brilliant than others. Right, So, um, if

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for what did you say, if people watch them,

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>they um they put them into categories one through four. Yeah.

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that yet, but uh yeah zero up

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 1>through four from barely can see it. Two Holy cow,

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing, right, So if you're looking for the Holy Cow,

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Four. Um, you would go looking on a

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>moonless night where there's no clouds where it's super super cold,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and maybe October or February or March. Yeah, I saw it. Also, Um,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>winter is the best time to see him, winter in

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the north and winter in the south. Oh yeah, yeah, alright,

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>well I'll buy that. Yeah. I thought that was weird

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>that there's any confusion on that, because yeah, there's like

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 1>whole tourist industries that are have grown up around us.

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe that's how they're trying to get you. Like

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's December, but you should still come. It's great, all right,

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you just come back in December too. Uh So, northern Norway,

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>UM Alaska. Obviously you're gonna get some pretty good stuff.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Um southern Alaska. Like you said, as things as you

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>go south, it's going to diminish a little bit. But

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine southern Alaska you're still getting a pretty

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 1>good show, right, don't you think. Yep, Sometimes you could

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>see him and I think this will probably be on

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>par with southern Alaska. Just at the worst feeling, I'm

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>going to get a bunch of email geography. But you

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>can sometimes see them in Scotland even Okay, Um, I

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>believe that maybe the northern UK you could conceivably see

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>them once in a while. But I got the impression

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that Scotland is more regular than say, over here in

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the northern United States. Yeah, I think it says here

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Scotland in the UK maybe one to ten times a month,

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and then the US and Canada near the border maybe

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>just a couple to three or four times a year. Right, Okay,

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen him of you know, and it says

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>once or twice a century. You might seem in the

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>southern United States. So if it happened in the late eighties,

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>we missed our shot, my friend, which is weird because

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I would have been in Toledo. Maybe I was sleeping.

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>It just seems like something that my mom would have

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 1>woken me up for. Yeah, I mean, I don't it

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stand out to me. Is like science teachers would

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>have probably said something. But remember remember Haley's comment. When

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that came through, everybody was talking about Yeah, I guess

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe it could have caught everybody by surprise. I don't

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>know about that. I think this is pretty predictable, right,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that's true. What that is predictable? Yeah, well,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the the conditions, they know the conditions where

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they will be the best. But maybe, like the weather,

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't predict those conditions, right Suppose yeah I saw

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>somewhere something like, um, they can predict them within a

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>few hours. Oh well yeah, it's not enough time to

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>get to Norway. No it's not from Georgia. So so

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the scale is zero to four it like we were saying.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And the people that enthusiasts that watch these they actually

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 1>can help contribute to science because you know, there's not

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>always someone like you said, if it's just a few hours, notice,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>there's not always a scientist there when you need them. Um.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>So these enthusiasts they record things, they record data, uh,

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to turn in like the time and the date, the colors,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the latitude, and some might even make a little sketch

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of what they're seeing. Uh. And that really goes a

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>long way to helping the scientists out and helping them understand, um,

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>what our magnetic field is doing right now. And the

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>scientists are like, we didn't ask for us. Get really

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the extra touch. You know, maybe watercolors nice, Maybe

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>you put like a mint in the envelope to when

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>you veil it off, it would be nice. Why not

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>scientists love mints? Um apparently also, Chuck, something that was

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>in this article is that you can there are aurora

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>on other I'm just gonna say aurora's there are auroras

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>on other UM planets too. Yeah, you know, I kind

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>of wondered about that before I started researching, because, like

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, solar flares and winds don't just go towards Earth,

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and other planets have magnetic fields, so trurely this happens elsewhere,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and it does. They've seen it on Jupiter Saturn. Uh yeah,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Jupiter and Saturn, all right, but surely I mean, like

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's if The point is, if you have a

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field around the planet and an atmosphere around the

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>planet that has ionic gases, and and anytime there's a

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>solar flare that can reach it and UM create an

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>electrical current in that magnetosphere, then you have all the

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>conditions right for an aurora. I guess the colors will

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>be different though, on Jupiter and Saturn, right, because it's different.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That'd be awesome to see hydrogen and helium in their case.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure that's a Chartrusse and brown brown

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>aurora maybe not the best. So you want to take

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>another break and then uh finish up. Yes, I have

0:29:51.680 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to have to wet down again. Okay, so chuck, um,

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we didn't say a lot of the uh, the the

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>auroras that you see, um, they have they formed basically

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>different shapes, like it can come in different well, different

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>shapes around the poles. You've got the ovals, the rings,

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>but there's other shapes they can take two and some

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of the more famous ones look like ribbons or curtains

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that kind of go basically from one horizon all the

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>way to the other overhead. Uh and they going kind

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of this wavy river pattern. But then the lights stands

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>upward into the atmosphere that it's got to be something

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to see, you know. Yeah, I mean, after researching this,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I really like have a hankering to go see this

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in person one day, so I did too, and I

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>still do. But I came across an article in The

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Independent and it was written by one of the Independence

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>travel writers and they said that going to see the

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Northern Lights was the most disappointing travel experience they have

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>ever had in their entire life. And she said that

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>part of it is what had to do with the

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tour they went on. She said it sucked it was

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a terrible tour Ronnie worst tour guide ever in the

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yelp review. Well, supposedly it was so this it was

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a um they called them a northern lights chase. But

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the chase consisted of sitting in their hosts living room

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and then every once a while someone would go to

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the window to see if the northern lights were out

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>or not, and then they'd sit back down. Um, that

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>was the chase. She said that there are that's a

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>dumb thing to call it. Well, it's not like it's

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>just over there. We just need to get a fast

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>enough truck. And apparently there are those like the was

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of operations, and that's what she thought she was getting.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>So she was had and on the one hand, but um,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>she said, the actual northern lights that she saw were

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of grayish and looked a lot like keim or

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a contrail and or maybe even cigarettes smoke in the sky,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of fog at night. Um. And then Ronie was

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>just smoking. And then it wasn't. It wasn't until she

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>saw the picture that the host took of them with,

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>which requires like a long exposure, like ten to fourteen seconds.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>That's when the colors and all the amazing nous comes out.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>So everything you've seen in the pictures is from the

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>long exposure, and apparently in person it's very rare that

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you see something that looks like the pictures. It looks

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>very much different in real life apparently, and that disappointing.

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge bummer. But you just saved me like

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>ten grand, so that that is really disappointing. That's a

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>long exposure effect. Yes. For as far as the Independent

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>writer um says that she said when she saw the picture,

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>she was like, Oh, that's yeah, it's a it's a

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>photo that we're seeing. She said, in real life they

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>don't look like that. So the article you can read

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it yourself. Why seeing the Northern Lights was the most

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>disappointing travel experience of my life, it was in the Independent.

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna change my whisch then I don't want to

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>pay to go on some dumb chase. I just want

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to happen upon them on a regular trip somewhere there

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you go. Then I'm already happy with Yeah, like Icelanders

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And actually she she makes the same exact point. She said,

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the trip was awesome. She said the

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the I think she was in Norway, and she said

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that the the just everything else about it was one

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of the best trips she's ever been on. It was

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the Northern Lights themselves that specifically stunk. And if you

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>make that, you know, part of your tour, but not

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason you're going, you probably wouldn't be discipution

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to to visit the far north of Norway. Well, because

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's great on its own, you know, That's

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>what she was saying. Yeah, I mean, gosh, I'm scrolling

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>through the pictures now, it's amazing. That's uh. I thought

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what it looked like, right, That's what everybody thinks, apparently,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>but and sometimes I guess it does. But you are

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily lucky if you're seeing the Northern Lights and it

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>looks like that in person. From from what this lady

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is saying. Well, plus, if you go on one of those,

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing worse than feeling duped into and uh duped

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>into spending a lot of money on a tour. Yeah,

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>at some dude's house. Yeah, I'd like to see video.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>That would be more telling. Yeah, I can't can't just

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>expose it like that with video, can you not? Well,

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can open up the exposure to get

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a two, get the video to look right, but it

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>won't be just like a you know, it's not like

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>open the exposure on uh, moving traffic at night with

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a photograph and you'll see like the dragging of the

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>tail lights and stuff like that. Like it, it won't

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>create some weird effect. I wonder if you use like

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a high speed filter it would do it? Or do

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you want low speed high speed filter? You know, obviously

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a professional photographer. Uh. Should we talk a

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit about the sound. Yeah, definitely. It makes a

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>farting noise which is really interesting. Yea. And it kind

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of smells that would make it all more fun at least. Um. No,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But there have long been people that um swore that

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>it makes a sound um and not everyone because apparently

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, someone actually found this out. It's a

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>sound that only some people can hear sometimes. Yeah, And

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the conditions have to be super right for it, and

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>there's very specific ones. And there's this one poor guy,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>his name is Unto kay Lane. He's finished, I belief.

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Um he's an acoustic acoustician, is there right? Yeah? Um

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>from Finland who was on a camping trip, and I

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>think two thousand and the Northern lights were just going

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>off and going crazy, and he said he could hear

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>like popping and crackling sounds and everyone said, well, that's

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>because you were drunk, and he's like, no, I know

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>for a fact I heard this. So he spent like

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the next fifteen years basically, um trying to capture the

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>sounds of the Aurora borealis, and he finally was successful

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:43.439
<v Speaker 1>apparently in two thousand eleven. Yeah, and his whole deal was, UM, Well,

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>when he was with his friends, first of all, he said,

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>they had to be like completely still. It's not such

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a noise that you know, they're having a conversation, and

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>they were like, oh, what's that like? They had to

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>be dead silent, They had to not move in order

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to hear it. And then even within his group some

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>people couldn't hear it at all because it just very

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>low intensity. Right. But he's, like you said, been chasing

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that buzz ever since. And um, finally is he figured

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>out I think he figured out the conditions first, right

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>or did he do that? Did he back it in afterward?

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>He he put two and two together. So we went

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>out and he captured it one night, right the sounds,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and then he went and looked up the UM like

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess the weather services report for that local area,

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and he figured out that what what he had been

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting under is called a thermal inversion layer where UM

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of warm at least compared to the air beneath

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it on the ground. UM warm air is kind of

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>trapping the cold there below it, and as long as

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the conditions are super still, uh, and it's very cold,

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna stay separate, right, Yeah, it's gotta be clear,

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>calm and cold, right, So would just be just an

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>irregular aurora, Like you have to have a sub set

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>of conditions to get this crackle noise exactly right. So UM,

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>in the warm air, uh, the warm air layer, a

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of UM electrons are become charged and the cold

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are below it an opposite charge built, right, So you

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>have this this um electrical charge just waiting to go

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>off and turn into a current. And apparently it's the

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>aurora above it that that causes the charge to actually

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>turn into a current. Yeah, he was pretty surprised at

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 1>first because he didn't just point a microphone. He had

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>this array so he could triangulate exactly where the sound

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was coming from, and it was just two thirty ft

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>above him was the sound and he was I don't

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>know what the finished expression for holy crap is it's

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a oivey. I don't think so, but uh, that's what

0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>he said. And he was like, you know this is weird,

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>this so low. Um, And that's when he came up

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>with his theory and it does it check out fully?

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Or everybody said, you know, that's that's probably right. Yeah,

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they're like head the very least came up with definitive

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>proof that this was um, the sound coming from it.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the fact that it was just overhead this

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>in the thermal and vision layer explained how you could

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>conceivably hear the Northern Lights. Amazing, Yeah, pretty amazing. You

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>got anything else? I got nothing else. I'm just disappointed now, Yeah,

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for real, I'm disappointed in the Northern Lights and our

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>episode on the Northern Lights. Uh if you yeah, man,

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the sun, anytime the sun comes into play, it's a curse,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a pox on us. If you want to know more

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>about the Northern Lights, go see him yourself. And if

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you have seen them in person and know us to

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>be incorrect. Let us know because we would like our

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>dreams back. Um. You can tweet to us at s

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>SK podcast or josh um Clark. You can hang out

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>with us on Facebook at Stuff you Should Know or

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant. You can send us an email

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the Stuff podcast at how Stuff works dot com. And

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>as always, I started this one early which goes to

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:23.919
<v Speaker 1>show again, worst episode over, It's time for listener mail.

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>That's right, I'm gonna call this. Uh well, it's just

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>a nice email. Hey, guys, been a fan since two

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand and ten, when I was a freshman in college.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever written in though uh this

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>entire time, have been an evangelist, but to no avail.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>That all change A few months ago I convinced the

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>love of my life, Meredith, to give you guys a shot,

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And now she is fun too. She's an outstanding woman

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and mother and has courageously struck out a loan for

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>a job offer she couldn't refuse. So now we live

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>four hundred miles apart, and having your podcast to talk

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>about keeps a conversation alive on day some weird feeling

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a bit down? Uh, I know, it's nice. In addition,

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I will also listen to you guys in the long

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>car rides to visit her. There's a way to distract

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>myself from my own excitement about getting to see her again,

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<v Speaker 1>and it helps the time pass faster. Uh. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the first time someone's written to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and I promise I would never be

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<v Speaker 1>that listener. But I get it now, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>find it true love, you just cannot help yourself. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>this does get the coveted shout out. Tell Meredith to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the good work and Happy Mother's Day. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the good work, guys. You were the first podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I ever listened to and still my favorite. Sleep well

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<v Speaker 1>tonight knowing that you are fostering love and real human

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<v Speaker 1>connections out here in podcast land. That was a great email.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nice. That is from Sam Martin and oh maha,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a medical student and a bar trivia master. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to us, he said, nice. Well, thanks a lot, Sam, Yes, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mereth, thanks a lot Meredith for giving us a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad it paid off. It reminds me of me

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<v Speaker 1>and youm do long distance for a while. It can

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<v Speaker 1>really really suck. Remember that you guys got through that

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<v Speaker 1>like a champ, though we did like two chaps. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've petted each other on the backs. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with us, you already know how

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<v Speaker 1>because I said it prematurely. Uh. And in the meantime

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<v Speaker 1>you can hang out with us. Uh. It's stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Dot com for more on this and thousands

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