Speaker 1: He Hello and welcome to my favorite murder, the miniso.
Speaker 1: Do we read you your stories you send in emails?
Speaker 2: We agreed we would read them. What more do you want.
Speaker 3: Us to do?
Speaker 1: And they can be about anything at this point in life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, fuck it, you know, truly?
Speaker 2: Would you like to get first?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: This one's called creating new fears for my child. Hello
Speaker 1: from Virginia. In a recent hometown, y'all asked for our
Speaker 1: own trash parenting stories and I am finally in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was twenty one when I had my first child,
Speaker 1: so basically a baby raising a baby, And somewhere along
Speaker 1: the way I started joking with her about quote dropping
Speaker 1: her off at the fire station my mom did is
Speaker 1: more than because they have the baby drop boxes, and
Speaker 1: I always thought it was a joke. We even joked
Speaker 1: about how she would have to tuck her knees because
Speaker 1: she was probably getting too big for the box.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: One day, when she was about five years old, when
Speaker 1: I dropped her off at her on base daycare, they
Speaker 1: informed me that the fire department would be doing an
Speaker 1: annual walk through later in the day. Okay, cool, no
Speaker 1: big deal, until her daycare provider called me a few
Speaker 1: hours later, because when my daughter saw the fire truck
Speaker 1: out front, she ran into a closet screaming, no.
Speaker 4: Don't take me, I'll be good. Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: My daughter thought the fire department had come to pick
Speaker 1: her up and take her away.
Speaker 4: She was hysterical.
Speaker 1: Turns out I had successfully made her terrified of all firefighters.
Speaker 2: Good news.
Speaker 1: She's now fifteen and no longer scared. But it was
Speaker 1: super fun explaining to her daycare provider that I was
Speaker 1: actually a terrible parent and to please not report us.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for all that you do in keeping
Speaker 1: me company on long drives into work.
Speaker 4: Cecily and then it says good luck on the pronunciation.
Speaker 1: I just go with whatever these days looks like Cecily,
Speaker 1: Cecily or Cicily Cecily.
Speaker 2: Cecily's cool.
Speaker 3: I like that name. I like a self reporting trash parent. Please,
Speaker 3: if you're if you've been trashy and you want to
Speaker 3: talk about it, we're here for you.
Speaker 4: You all have those stories, we know it.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
Speaker 3: Also, it's that thing where I think for my trash
Speaker 3: babysitter story of my own, it was like I only
Speaker 3: ever related to other adults, so I forgot that children
Speaker 3: do not relate the same way, and I wonder if
Speaker 3: it's like that's part of it. It's like you're a
Speaker 3: young parent and you're just like, oh wait, okay, that's right, Okay,
Speaker 3: here's my first story. The subject line is an Irish
Speaker 3: hometown story with a difference. Hi, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, Alejandra
Speaker 3: and all free creatures. I love you gals, obviously as
Speaker 3: you brighten up my day, it says brighten up me.
Speaker 2: Day, me day, because they're day, brighten me.
Speaker 3: Day, my walks when I'm cooking, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: I first came across your podcast a few years ago
Speaker 3: when I heard my colleagues giggling in the office with
Speaker 3: their earphones in. They were all listening to you while working.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, So I could tell you about the spooky
Speaker 3: happenings in the house I grew up in that's over
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty years old. But I'll leave that
Speaker 3: to another time and tell you about something way better.
Speaker 3: I wanted to let you know about a fantastic eighty
Speaker 3: three year old from Ireland who was a crucial behind
Speaker 3: the scenes part of the Bansheese of venisheerin.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, did you watch that movie? I loved that movie.
Speaker 3: We think it's such a lovely story and of course
Speaker 3: Karen's Irish, so we wanted to share it with you.
Speaker 3: Delia Berry joined the knitting group through Greystones Cancer Support
Speaker 3: when her husband Patty died over ten years ago. She
Speaker 3: found friends and comfort from this group and from GCS,
Speaker 3: so she wanted to give something special back. Something else
Speaker 3: special about Delia is that she also took in her
Speaker 3: sister's four children when she lost her sister to cancer
Speaker 3: many years ago. Delia is Jesus's favorite person. She shot
Speaker 3: to fame having knit the iconic jumpers sweaters for Colin Ferrell,
Speaker 3: Brendan Gleeson, and Barry Kyogan in the Oscar nominated movie
Speaker 3: The Banshees of a So that movie is like the
Speaker 3: sweaters are the third lead. Yes, and Delia is the
Speaker 3: one who made all of that amazing. Also, Tolin Ferrell's sister,
Speaker 3: who actually won an Oscar for Best Supporting Carrie Something,
Speaker 3: has an incredible cardigan that I was obsessed with, like
Speaker 3: every I watched it like three.
Speaker 2: Times, and she made it.
Speaker 4: You can get you can commission one.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Delia, I need to talk to you, Okay.
Speaker 3: So Brendan Gleeson has even asked her to knit two
Speaker 3: more for him, since what we didn't know before now
Speaker 3: was that Delia is no stranger to the celebrity world,
Speaker 3: having knit for Meryl Streep for her role in Dancing
Speaker 3: at Luganza, and having taught Emily Watson how to knit
Speaker 3: for her role in the movie Little Women. Cute, Celia
Speaker 3: is an inner national superstar. She fits knitting in and
Speaker 3: around her bingo and walks around her town gray Stones,
Speaker 3: County Wooklow in the Garden of Ireland.
Speaker 2: In the Garden of Ireland? Is that a saying?
Speaker 4: You tell me?
Speaker 2: I can't? How cool?
Speaker 3: Is she? Right? If you'd like to read more about
Speaker 3: our famous and generous Delia, you can read all about
Speaker 3: her in The New York Times, Vogue, the.
Speaker 2: Daily Mail, to name a few.
Speaker 3: This is the best, Stay sexy and don't get murdered
Speaker 3: and wrap yourself in a cost knit Aaron sweater. Knit
Speaker 3: with love, Mary, Wow, Mary, I love that emails.
Speaker 4: You want to be an old lady like I'm excited
Speaker 4: to be an old lady.
Speaker 3: Also, it's like the thing that brought her to knitting
Speaker 3: was this painful, difficult thing that then knitting actually helped
Speaker 3: her with and then she kind of kept powering through
Speaker 3: and then she was like, now everybody loves my knitting, and.
Speaker 4: Now she needs her own movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she actually does, and like all those stars will
Speaker 3: come and star in it with her. Stop it.
Speaker 4: I love it. I'm mad, I'm mad.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Such a good email.
Speaker 1: Okay, just found out my uncle's death was a murder,
Speaker 1: all the requisite pleasantries and compliments. I am from a
Speaker 1: large East Coast Puerto Rican family of murderinos. My abuelo's
Speaker 1: grandparents were married for almost seventy years before a Builo
Speaker 1: became an ancestor. Isn't that a beautiful way of saying
Speaker 1: he passed on? Yeah, and I am the oldest of
Speaker 1: sixteen grandchildren. Several of us kids grew up on a
Speaker 1: heavy dose of diagnosis murder twenty twenty CSI, and the
Speaker 1: list goes.
Speaker 4: On diagnosis murder.
Speaker 1: Recently, I think I uncovered our family's Murderino origin story.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, our relative Rosa and it
Speaker 1: says all names changed, would occasionally come visit from Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico with her two kids, Letty and Roberto. Rosa's relation
Speaker 1: to us was unclear, but I assumed that she was
Speaker 1: a distant aunt. During their visits, they would go to
Speaker 1: the local so materia for Rosa's husband, my assumed uncle,
Speaker 1: was buried. I always wondered why he would be here
Speaker 1: instead of in Puerto Rico. Cut to a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: A handful of the family was at Abuela's house pouring
Speaker 1: through old albums and bins of pictures. My sister pulls
Speaker 1: out an eight x ten portrait of a handsome young
Speaker 1: man that looked like it was from the sixties. Who's this,
Speaker 1: she asked, Oh, that's Javier, Rosa's husband. My Abuela said solemnly,
Speaker 1: you know, she said, turning to me. They killed him.
Speaker 1: I instantly had about a million questions and went to
Speaker 1: work trying to get them all answered. So here's the
Speaker 1: story I was able to get from my Abuela, my mom,
Speaker 1: and a free trial to a newspaper website. In the
Speaker 1: mid eighties, Rosa unfortunately had a miscarriage. Javier, who was
Speaker 1: my Abuilo's cousin. That's how they related, dropped off a
Speaker 1: young Letty and Roberto at my Abuela's house so he
Speaker 1: could go be with Rosa in the hospital, who was
Speaker 1: the last time any of our family would see him alive.
Speaker 1: His body was found in a field the next day.
Speaker 1: He was thirty eight years old. The police interviewed everyone
Speaker 1: at my Aguila's house, including my mom, since that was
Speaker 1: the last place he was seen. It took months of investigation,
Speaker 1: but the story came together. Javier dropped off the kids
Speaker 1: and was carjacked on the way to the hospital. He
Speaker 1: withdrew one hundred dollars from the ATM, and twenty five
Speaker 1: minutes later, his car was found on fire in a
Speaker 1: residential area. They found him the following day. He had
Speaker 1: been shot execution style. Nearly two years later, three suspects
Speaker 1: were arrested and one was eventually convicted.
Speaker 4: He was also convicted of.
Speaker 1: Killing a cab driver a few weeks after Javier's murder,
Speaker 1: and is suspected to be involved in a few other murders.
Speaker 1: After the trial, Rosa took the kids and moved back
Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico. So this happened in the US. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by all accounts, she was never the same. Apparently, the
Speaker 1: murderer was up for parole in twenty nineteen and my
Speaker 1: uncle spoke with the hearing on behalf of our family.
Speaker 1: Everyone kept it yet because they didn't want Rosa to
Speaker 1: find out. We're unsure of what the outcome was, but
Speaker 1: COVID hit shortly thereafter, and the murderer died in prison.
Speaker 1: I found his obituary and it's clear his family loved
Speaker 1: him very much, just as our family loved Javier. That's
Speaker 1: like a really beautiful sentiment.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1: Musing about what can make a twenty three year old
Speaker 1: man who was full of potential go on a robbery
Speaker 1: and murder spree, But this email is long enough. The
Speaker 1: whole ordeal was traumatizing for my family, and my theory
Speaker 1: is that it created a generational anxiety that fuels our
Speaker 1: interest in true crime. Or maybe it's just a horrible
Speaker 1: story that I feel the need to wrap up nicely.
Speaker 1: Either way, stay sexy and don't carjack people.
Speaker 4: Jay she her Wow. Jay a classic hometown.
Speaker 3: And also just so personal and kind of beautiful. Yeah, like,
Speaker 3: because yeah, why would a twenty three year old be
Speaker 3: not just robbing people robbing and murdering?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this like email makes it clear that Jay has
Speaker 1: a really big heart. You know what, I mean like,
Speaker 1: I totally got that just from the story being told.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, thank you for sending that in. Okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna take a little left turn, please and go do
Speaker 3: subject line cul ti Christian Camp. Okay, and then it
Speaker 3: just says, Sup, you all have been the voices I
Speaker 3: fall asleep to for years now, So thank you for
Speaker 3: your sweet, murderous bedtime tales. They've definitely helped me avoid
Speaker 3: the shame Merry Go Round. I typically ride as I'm
Speaker 3: falling asleep, so thank you.
Speaker 4: I am very familiar with that ride.
Speaker 2: I've been on it a time or two.
Speaker 4: Myself honored to be part of the soundtrack.
Speaker 3: I mean, actually that kind of just made me think
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, if it's a shame Merry Go Round,
Speaker 3: how do you like avoid it?
Speaker 2: It's like you have to do a step.
Speaker 3: Up of like engaging different feelings, stronger feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes something louder. Yeah, and we're fucking plenty loud.
Speaker 3: I was re listening to Minnieso two seventy eight the
Speaker 3: other night, and it sparked a memory of summer Camp
Speaker 3: for me that I had to tell you guys. In
Speaker 3: the late nineties, I went to a Christian summer camp
Speaker 3: with my best friend for some godfirst saken reason, and
Speaker 3: it was as close to being inducted into a cult
Speaker 3: as I have ever come picture it. Summer in the
Speaker 3: Rocky Mountains, clean cut Christian teenager camp counselors, horseback riding,
Speaker 3: mess halls, and coming home with hand foot mouth disease.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I was about to say I went to
Speaker 1: a camp like that, but.
Speaker 4: It was doish.
Speaker 2: No, we did not didn't get that.
Speaker 3: All the camp staples, it says, except throw some very
Speaker 3: weird Christian spice in there. We attended sunrise sermons, lunchtime
Speaker 3: Bible studies, and midnight campfire sermons. One of the stranger
Speaker 3: games quote unquote they had us play was to go
Speaker 3: out into the forest after darkened pairs of two and
Speaker 3: find counselors scattered around acting like they were non believers,
Speaker 3: and we had to do our best to convert them
Speaker 3: or convince them to give Christianity a try.
Speaker 4: Oh my God.
Speaker 2: Like a culti scavenger hunt.
Speaker 3: The whole week culminated into a sunset sermon overlooking the
Speaker 3: mountains given by the owner of the camp, singing worship
Speaker 3: songs and everyone becoming very emotional. At one point, he
Speaker 3: told all the campers to close their eyes and raise
Speaker 3: their hands if they felt like they accepted Jesus into
Speaker 3: their heart this week. I was absolutely nosy and peaked
Speaker 3: and saw my best friend raise her hand, and because
Speaker 3: I'm a girl's girl and definitely did not want to
Speaker 3: be left out, I raised my hand too.
Speaker 4: That's the right answer.
Speaker 3: The speaker then asked us to lower our hands and
Speaker 3: open our eyes and asked who would be brave enough
Speaker 3: to come stand up front if we had raised our hand. Well,
Speaker 3: Mama didn't raise no pussy. So I got up. I mean,
Speaker 3: so I got up and went to the front with
Speaker 3: some reluctant others, expecting my best friend to come up too.
Speaker 2: She did not.
Speaker 3: So there I was standing up while the crowd cheered,
Speaker 3: and my best friend got teary eyed, saying how glad
Speaker 3: she was that I finally accepted Jesus.
Speaker 2: What the fuck, Chelsea?
Speaker 3: Oh no. The speaker then asked us to write our
Speaker 3: name in the Book of Life.
Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck that was. That's a Jewish thing, is it.
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: They's kind of blended a little.
Speaker 4: Now, they still wn a lot of Shitah, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 2: Really sorry on behalf of me and Chelsea. Sorry, that's
Speaker 2: really funny. What if they were like.
Speaker 3: Ex Jewish now they were born again Christian? But this
Speaker 3: actually was kind of effective this one. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 3: winkled my way out of that step and decided I
Speaker 3: didn't think summer camp was for me anymore. So that's
Speaker 3: really that's right where she stops. Anyway, thank you for
Speaker 3: all you do. You've been my most reliable best friends
Speaker 3: through years of postpartum depression, regular depression, and finding a
Speaker 3: wonderful therapist to help unpack all that shit, partly due
Speaker 3: to listening to you guys talk about the ways you
Speaker 3: have benefited from therapy. You're both wonderful, stay sexy, and
Speaker 3: definitely stay out of the forest at a Christian summer camp. Kate,
Speaker 3: she her, Oh, that's really funny. She winkled her way
Speaker 3: out of that one. Goal.
Speaker 1: The last one's called the Anne Frank Sandwich Story. Hello,
Speaker 1: I love you all, let's fucking go. For the past
Speaker 1: ten years, I have been the proud stepmom to Ella
Speaker 1: twenty and Sam twenty three, and I myself have a
Speaker 1: pretty rad step mom. This story took place when Ella
Speaker 1: was around seven. My husband and I had been struggling
Speaker 1: to get Ella to eat the lunches we packed her
Speaker 1: for school. The excuses were rampant, ran out of time,
Speaker 1: didn't have a fork, an alien invaded the lunch room, etc.
Speaker 1: It was a temporarily frustrating time in our lives, to
Speaker 1: be sure, and many grapes were sacrificed. One day after school,
Speaker 1: Ella was telling me about her day and what she learned.
Speaker 1: As she did so, her excitement grew.
Speaker 2: She wrote a book.
Speaker 1: She's famous, as if the subject were a pop culture celebrity.
Speaker 1: As I listened, it did not seem as if said
Speaker 1: historical figure's whole story had been told, and I started
Speaker 1: to wonder what the fuck to say to help her
Speaker 1: understand the horror and atrocity, and Frank endured without crushing
Speaker 1: my sweet child's innocence. I asked her a few follow
Speaker 1: ups as she unpacked her things, and we delicately made
Speaker 1: our way around the topic until it seemed she started
Speaker 1: to grasp the tiny bits of reality being sprinkled in,
Speaker 1: and her fangirl tone became a little more balanced.
Speaker 4: How do you she.
Speaker 2: Wrote a book?
Speaker 3: She was she was fed well, Also, it is exciting
Speaker 3: that you're that age, and you would get a book
Speaker 3: published like It's yeah, I'm sure she could.
Speaker 2: I do that totally.
Speaker 1: Deciding not to totally ruin her afternoon, I suggested she
Speaker 1: go outside and play. As I unpacked her lunchbox, I
Speaker 1: was once again greeted by uneaten sandwich. Taking a breath,
Speaker 1: I went out back and simply asked why she hadn't
Speaker 1: eaten that day. The usual response ensued, but this time
Speaker 1: it broke me an exasperation one skipping the reminder about
Speaker 1: her health and being able to focus in class, not
Speaker 1: bothering to mention food waste for the million time, I
Speaker 1: simply held up the rejected sandwich and said, all caps,
Speaker 1: do you know who would have eaten this?
Speaker 4: And frank oh.
Speaker 1: Her little face crumbled, and thus one of my worst
Speaker 1: slash best parenting stories was born. She's in college now,
Speaker 1: and we both laugh whenever I humbly tell this story.
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate to have built great relationships with both kids,
Speaker 1: thus continuing to dismantle the wicked stepmother trope, but I
Speaker 1: do still hate wasting food. Winky emoji thanks for everything
Speaker 1: are oh wow, I bet it worked. I'm sure it worked.
Speaker 3: And also that was very yet and yet again another
Speaker 3: example of like your being very vulnerable with your own
Speaker 3: fuck up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear your fucked up stories because
Speaker 1: we've told you all of ours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, you've seen every fuck up, You've heard every
Speaker 3: fuck up.
Speaker 2: We've done it, done it, We've done in it to you.
Speaker 1: It's your turn at my favorite murder at Gmail. If
Speaker 1: you want to watch this video, is that it?
Speaker 3: No? Oh, we got one last one and it's asshole.
Speaker 2: Older sister stories.
Speaker 3: Hi, ladies on Minnesota episode four oh six, you asked
Speaker 3: for older sister stories, and I'm here to deliver. My
Speaker 3: sister is five years younger than me and has always
Speaker 3: been very gullible. Here are a few of my favorite
Speaker 3: older sister moments. When she was about three or four,
Speaker 3: I told her that our mom did not carry or
Speaker 3: give birth to her. Instead, she found a giant egg
Speaker 3: in a Dollar General dumpster and hatched her from it.
Speaker 3: I told her that she could never tell our parents
Speaker 3: she knew this information because it was a huge family secret.
Speaker 3: She cried for days and believed as for years, but
Speaker 3: oh my god, but eventually told our parents that she
Speaker 3: knew where she came from. It's now a running joke
Speaker 3: in our family, and I still can't believe she thought
Speaker 3: this was true for so many years.
Speaker 2: She was a child.
Speaker 4: She was a child.
Speaker 3: You lied to her, and you're her older sister, a studio.
Speaker 3: You hold the reality of the world in your hands.
Speaker 3: I would also tell her that the ginger served with
Speaker 3: sushi was ham, and she would eat the weird ham
Speaker 3: every time we eat sushi. I also told her what
Speaker 3: Sabby was pistachioizing, and she ate the whole chunk of
Speaker 3: it at once when she was ten. You're mean, love
Speaker 3: you and everything you do. Stay sexy and keep lying
Speaker 3: to your younger sisters. Lindsey, No, that's trauma. That is
Speaker 3: just trauma. The first time I ate was Sabby, I
Speaker 3: was just looking at my friend, like what's going to happen?
Speaker 2: It scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 4: But like sinus clearing feeling, that's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like when you don't know, like I had
Speaker 3: no context of what it was. It's radish, so it's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, radish, it has that. But like when you
Speaker 3: just put in your mouth you don't know. I thought
Speaker 3: the back of my head was gonna like blow out.
Speaker 3: It was crazy, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, now please my Favorite Murder in Gmail. This
Speaker 1: is all on video that we're gonna put up in
Speaker 1: the fan calt if you want to watch.
Speaker 3: It, Oh yeah, you want to, like just intently stare
Speaker 3: at each other while we also read yeah, it's fun,
Speaker 3: do it. Come on, stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 1: Good by, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1: Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2: Our editor is Aristotle Oscevedo.
Speaker 1: This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci, emailing her hometowns
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Speaker 2: Goodbye