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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode thirty two of Hurdle, a podcast that

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Speaker 1: talks to everyone from top CEOs to entrepreneurs about how

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Speaker 1: they got through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning

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Speaker 1: into wellness. My name's Emila Badi, and today I'm chatting

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Speaker 1: with Ryan Flaherty. He's the senior director of Performance at Nike.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. I actually recorded this episode a

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Speaker 1: few weeks back and Nike Campus in Beaverton, just outside

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Speaker 1: now I'm recording this intro on the road in Austin.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling all sorts of sentimental and super satisfied as

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Ryan Ryan has, from my point of view, one

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Speaker 1: of the most awesome cool jobs in the world. Over

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Speaker 1: the course of a normal day, the senior director of

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Speaker 1: Performance could do everything from Sinnama meetings about content creation

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Speaker 1: for the Nike Training Club app, edit a script for

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Speaker 1: Nike's podcast called Trained.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my absolute favorites.

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Speaker 1: Program workouts for athletes he works with around the world,

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Speaker 1: including Serena Williams, and try to find a second to

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Speaker 1: breathe in between. What's insane is that a much younger

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Speaker 1: Ryan never envisioned this for himself. Growing up as an athlete,

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Speaker 1: he had the opportunity to play professional football when his

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Speaker 1: What he learned throughout the rehab process was that he

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Speaker 2: It was a hurdle moment of sorts.

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Speaker 1: He knew he wanted to help other athletes avoid injury

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Speaker 1: and going down that same path.

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Speaker 2: That's when he started studying human movement.

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Speaker 1: Sciences and performance and well that journey led him to

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Speaker 1: the swoosh. In today's episode, Ryan shares so much info

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Speaker 1: about building a better body, and the mental takeaways are phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the importance of saying no

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Speaker 1: and having grid as always Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, you know

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Speaker 1: the drill at Hurdle podcast.

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Speaker 2: There are a ton of takeaways here.

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Speaker 1: As I said, so please share your favorites on your

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Speaker 1: ig story and make sure to tag the podcast. Definitely

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Speaker 1: check out Nike's podcast Trained. My favorite episode is, without

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Speaker 1: a doubt, the one with Matt Frazier, who I've also

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Speaker 1: shoot me an email Emily at Hurdle dot us to

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Speaker 1: say hi or share a hurdle moment of your own.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Let's get to hurdling. I'm in the studio

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Speaker 1: today with Ryan Flarerty. He's the senior director of Performance

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: And Ryan is the voice behind me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him when I'm recording with Andy recently,

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Speaker 1: who you also had thee of recording Andy Puticum from Headspace.

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Speaker 4: He walked into the room and I was like, this

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Speaker 5: I had the feeling with him too, it is, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has a weird, weird effect on you.

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Speaker 4: Are you a big headspacer I am?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, a lot a lot of the athletes

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Speaker 5: It's like something we I really promote big with them

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate it that it's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear a little bit about your backstory,

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Speaker 3: So Nike's an interesting place.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those where you have a ton of

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Speaker 5: it's a good thing, and it's also makes it it

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Speaker 5: Obviously, you know, people don't realize this, but even like

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Speaker 4: I'm buds with a lot of the Nike master trainers.

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Speaker 5: And so it's that it's the so helping our category,

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Speaker 4: And was there a job posting for this coalition or

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Speaker 5: I So, I've been training athletes for fifteen years and

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Speaker 4: But I love that you just spit fire all these

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Speaker 5: And I think what most people realize is they don't

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Speaker 5: I don't think you realize how bad you feel after

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Speaker 5: you eat until you start taking things out and you're like,

446
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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, yeah, and you realize. You know, I

447
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Speaker 5: did this one thing, this little test on myself, and

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Speaker 5: then I like, I waited five days, and then the

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Speaker 5: fifth day, I was like, oh my gosh, I can't

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Speaker 5: take and I ate it.

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Speaker 3: I ordered a large pizza like I just was.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm ordering domot.

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Speaker 3: Well, I did a fast, So I fasted for five days,

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Speaker 3: which is okay. Yep.

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Speaker 5: Again, me personally doing it. No one else would do

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Speaker 5: that if they unless met a supervision. But I ate

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Speaker 5: a pizza and I felt like the worst I've ever

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Speaker 5: felt after eating anything, And it was a really like

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Speaker 5: light bulb moment for me. Of I think we get

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Speaker 5: so our body, we just get so used to feeling

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Speaker 5: a certain type of way after eating that we don't

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Speaker 5: realize the effects that food is having on us. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I can go in all all this research

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Speaker 5: around nutrition and kind of some of the things we're

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Speaker 5: facing as a society, but really I think it just

466
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Speaker 5: starts with just making small changes and self experimenting and

467
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Speaker 5: don't wait for science to tell you one thing. Just

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Speaker 5: try it on your own yourself and you know whether

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Speaker 5: it's sugar or dairy or you know, COLI restricted or

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Speaker 5: taking time windows of eating and fasting. I think give

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Speaker 5: it all a shot and see how you feel.

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Speaker 1: Ih I feel like a lot of the most fit

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Speaker 1: humans I know are intermittent fasters. A question I have,

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Speaker 1: I guess relating to that is if you're someone who

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Speaker 1: wants to try that but feels like maybe it's not

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Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse, like all seven days of the week,

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Speaker 1: is that something worth trying for? Like four or five

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Speaker 1: days a week or if you mess up, should you

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Speaker 1: just like completely abandoned ship, Like what's the mentality behind that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I would say you could even give it

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Speaker 5: a shot for three days. I mean it's there's never

483
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Speaker 5: a bad with like trying something for period of time

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Speaker 5: and then on the weekends. Socially you want to have

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Speaker 5: dinner with people late, like especially New York where you're from, Like,

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Speaker 5: and that's.

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Speaker 1: A break and that's a breakdown really quick. So if

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Speaker 1: you're doing intermittent fasting generally speaking, what are the guidelines

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Speaker 1: on that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So so one thing people kind of kind of

491
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Speaker 5: confuse a little bit as there's two different forms. So

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Speaker 5: time restricted feeding, which is daly eight hour windows of

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Speaker 5: eating sixteen hours of fasting is time restricted feeding. Intermint

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Speaker 5: fasting is like five days of eating, one day of fasting,

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Speaker 5: five days of eating, one day fasting or whatever. So

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Speaker 5: there's two separate types that you're talking about. So time

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Speaker 5: restricted feeding is the windows of time that you eat

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Speaker 5: in the day and then the windows you fast. I

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Speaker 5: think you can absolutely like adjust your window to earlier

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Speaker 5: in the morning or later. I mean, like I said,

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Speaker 5: they're showing results up to eleven hours, So that's that's

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Speaker 5: basically like nine to eight pm. That's that's all day almost,

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Speaker 5: you know. So it's not that even that's not even

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Speaker 5: really that hard. But what people don't realize is that

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Speaker 5: those two glasses of wine at eleven thirty or that

506
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Speaker 5: dessert at ten thirty at night, bright before you go

507
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Speaker 5: to bed is actually pretty harmful because your body is

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Speaker 5: no longer active, so you're in a resting state, and

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Speaker 5: those calories, that sugar, the glucoses all have needing somewhere

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Speaker 5: to go, but yet you're not, you know, spending any energy.

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Speaker 5: So it's just it's understanding when you're eating and what

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Speaker 5: times is important, and trying to kind of push your

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Speaker 5: calories in your in your all your macros the earlier

514
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Speaker 5: part of the day and that way, it's when you're

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Speaker 5: most active, it's when you're most alive, and then later

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Speaker 5: in the day trying to reduce that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Got it, got it?

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Speaker 1: I want to nerd out with you for a second

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Speaker 1: over some of the stuff you talked to Tim Ferriss about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what nickim did he give you?

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Speaker 3: I hate this nickname, thevant of speed?

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Speaker 4: You hate the nickname?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, it's just like I.

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Speaker 4: Told everybody about it on your website.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 4: It's on your website. You're like, dub this savant of

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Speaker 4: Speed by Tim Ferris.

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Speaker 3: Oh my wife, but I did not.

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Speaker 4: Don't you let her know?

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Speaker 3: I trouble you.

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Speaker 1: Guys talked a lot about the benefits of strength training,

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Speaker 1: specifically deadlifting, when it comes to speed gains.

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Speaker 4: I think that maybe.

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Speaker 1: Toning it down a little bit more accessible for someone

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Speaker 1: who is just maybe a recreational runner interested in picking

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Speaker 1: up the pace a little bit. What are some small

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Speaker 1: tweaks that they can make to shift and dial up

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Speaker 1: that performance to the next level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. So we all run. I mean, so

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Speaker 5: we're talking secifically to people who you know are runner.

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Speaker 5: So if you're not like a power athlete, you're running

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Speaker 5: a forty yard datione hundred meters dash, it's you know,

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Speaker 5: that's more the stuff I talked about with Tim is

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Speaker 5: more related to that. So if you're just an everyday runer,

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Speaker 5: someone who's running a five k or ten k, one

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Speaker 5: of the things you look at is so an example

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Speaker 5: would be like a marathon, right, So the average the

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Speaker 5: average amount of strides in a marathon is about twenty

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Speaker 5: thousand steps. Well, if you have an imbalance between your

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Speaker 5: right to left legs. When we don't run from right

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Speaker 5: to right or left to left, we run from right

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Speaker 5: leg to left leg, left late to right leg. So

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Speaker 5: if there's an imbalance or asymmetry between your right and

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Speaker 5: left leg and your ability to create force and push

555
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Speaker 5: off the ground, you will have a shorter stride length

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Speaker 5: on either side, and ultimately, over twenty thousand steps, that

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Speaker 5: will add up. So if you can improve that discrepancy

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Speaker 5: in any way through your training, it'll it'll give you

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Speaker 5: an advantage and allow you to be more efficient without

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Speaker 5: really needing to change any of your running workout or

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Speaker 5: template in any way.

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Speaker 1: So and that's where the deadlifting came in. You said

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Speaker 1: you did that with med.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the good A good way to improve your

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Speaker 5: stride length is to increase your lower body strength without

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Speaker 5: adding a ton of extra muscle mass. Now, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of ways to do this, so I don't just

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Speaker 5: have athletes solely dead lift, which I think is important

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Speaker 5: in the state.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that go into this.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of different types of exercises and auxiliary

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Speaker 5: lifts and single egg work that we do, you know

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Speaker 5: a lot of work that we do.

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Speaker 3: To improve that.

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Speaker 5: So for everybody listening, I think a great way to

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Speaker 5: incorporate is with a deadlift is to only do the

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Speaker 5: concentric portion of the extra So let's say you're sitting

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Speaker 5: in a chair, right, So the lowering portion is the

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Speaker 5: centric phase, and then the standing portion is the concentric

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Speaker 5: phase like in a squat, same thing in a dead lift.

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Speaker 3: The eccentric phase is.

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Speaker 5: Where you actually you know your your muscle tissue tears

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Speaker 5: and repairs, and you add lean muscle mass is the

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Speaker 5: lowering portion. So if you remove that, your body will

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Speaker 5: be stressed in a way to recruit motor units and

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Speaker 5: to to actually get stronger without adding in a muscle

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Speaker 5: mass or damage. So your body won't repair muscle mass

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Speaker 5: in any way. And so if you just stand up

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Speaker 5: with the weight and then drop it, you'll actually avoid

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Speaker 5: the adding of lean muscle mass which increase body weight,

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Speaker 5: and it also will help you not be super sore

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Speaker 5: where you can actually do it the next day. If

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Speaker 5: you bought your central nervous system is recovered enough and

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Speaker 5: your running won't be affected by because you won't have

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Speaker 5: like soreness or delayed onset muscle soreness like you do

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Speaker 5: in other exercises. So it makes it really beneficial for

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Speaker 5: runners because it won't impede your running training in any way,

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Speaker 5: but it will stresser your nervous system, recruit motor units,

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Speaker 5: and allow you to become stronger without adding any additional weight.

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Speaker 5: So if you think about it like, this is just

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Speaker 5: as simple as I can explain it is. If you

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Speaker 5: went out and did your like two miles today and

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Speaker 5: you added a twenty pound weight vest on your back,

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Speaker 5: I will guarantee you your time will be slower and

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Speaker 5: your sty length.

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Speaker 3: Will be shorter.

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Speaker 5: Now do the reverse of getting twenty pounds stronger, but

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Speaker 5: don't add a single pound of body weight, and the

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Speaker 5: run will become easier, more efficient, and your stride link

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Speaker 5: will increase. So it's a very simple concept. But there's

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Speaker 5: ways you can do that in the weight room that

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Speaker 5: will allow you to be more efficient and feel better

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Speaker 5: and your runs without adding muscle or size that a

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Speaker 5: lot of runners don't want to add.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is this a I'm just like sitting here listening

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Speaker 1: to you, nodding my head and thinking about how it's

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Speaker 1: got to feel for you to be the person that's

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Speaker 1: getting interviewed right now, Like, is that is that a

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Speaker 1: weird thing for you now that you've been hosting this podcast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean honestly, like before I started doing the

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Speaker 5: podcast this summer with Nike, I was on a lot

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Speaker 5: of podcasts, So it was really weird for me actually

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Speaker 5: to be interviewing more than it is to be a

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Speaker 5: guess like I'm I'm I love talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 5: Like what you do actually is way harder for me. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 5: where you're like having to be present and listen to

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Speaker 5: what people are saying, and you have all these lists

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Speaker 5: of questions and if like someone answers the tenth question

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Speaker 5: you were going to ask them and you have to

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Speaker 5: cross it out in your mind, you're like, oh no,

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Speaker 5: don't answer.

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Speaker 3: You know you have to. It's hard.

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Speaker 5: It's like a it's a serious skill that I did

634
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Speaker 5: not realize what's going to be so difficult. So I

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Speaker 5: have more respect for you than I do for the

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Speaker 5: person sitting over here, because that's a harder job.

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Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for you when you

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Speaker 1: think about the people that you get to work with,

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Speaker 1: or maybe even the people that you've sat in this

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Speaker 1: very recording booth with here in Portland. My question for

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Speaker 1: you is what has been one of the most valuable

642
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Speaker 1: lessons that someone you've crossed paths with in your career

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Speaker 1: has taught you.

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Speaker 5: Let's see, I mean, I think one of the things

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Speaker 5: I think I've learned over the years is that when

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Speaker 5: you are around a lot of incredible athletes who have

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Speaker 5: reached the highest peak in their in their game and

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Speaker 5: their sport, which you start to realize and recognize as

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Speaker 5: you spend a lot of time with each of them,

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Speaker 5: is that they all do some things very very consistently.

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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, I always talk about on

652
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Speaker 5: the podcast like success leaves clues and if you pay

653
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Speaker 5: attention to success people and whatever you're in life, you

654
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Speaker 5: want to be successful. And I think that's like it's

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Speaker 5: worth saying that because you know someone at home may

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Speaker 5: be listening. Like for me now, my priorities have changed,

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Speaker 5: Like my number one goal in life is to be

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Speaker 5: the great dad, Like that's number one, and the great husband,

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Speaker 5: and then outside of that then my you know, the

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Speaker 5: work I'm doing with Nike and all the other stuff

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Speaker 5: comes into into play. But so if your greatest goal

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Speaker 5: is to be the you know, the best mom, in

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Speaker 5: the world, the best you know, husband in the world,

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Speaker 5: the best friend in the world. I think it relates

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Speaker 5: to you as well. It's not just about being a

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00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: great athlete or a great business person. So I say

667
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: that as a kind of just an aside, but so

668
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 5: in that The greatest advice I ever got was from

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Speaker 5: a sports psychologist that I worked with with a lot

670
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Speaker 5: of different athletes. His name is arc to Kevin Elco,

671
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 5: but he told me one day, he said that the

672
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Speaker 5: number one change that I try to get to all

673
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 5: of the athletes I work with to do is to

674
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: start looking at life in a way where you look

675
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Speaker 5: at things that happen and understand that they don't happen

676
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 5: to you, they happen for you. And I think that,

677
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Speaker 5: like in and of itself, helped shift something inside of

678
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Speaker 5: me of looking at everything that we go through. Every

679
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Speaker 5: person on the planet, everyone listening to this podcast will

680
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: have things come up in life that will challenge us

681
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: and be obstacles or challenges that we may think at

682
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 5: the time is unfair, which it probably is, or you know,

683
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: something that they can overcome, But if they look at

684
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Speaker 5: it different and they just shift the slight filter of

685
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: this isn't happening to me, It's happening for me, and

686
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: they take themselves out of being a victim and take

687
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Speaker 5: ownership of it and say, how can I learn from

688
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: this and be better? I think their life will drastically

689
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: change in that moment, and it did for me. When

690
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: I heard that, it was like wow, because I mean,

691
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Speaker 5: I like, early in my life, I struggled a lot

692
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Speaker 5: of different things that happened, and life stuff happened to

693
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 5: where I felt like, maybe you know, I'm not gonna

694
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: become the person I envisioned myself being when I was

695
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: a kid, or maybe you know my dreams are all

696
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: going to like not work out the way they did.

697
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: And obviously today I can stay here and say that

698
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: that definitely is not true. It's just in how you

699
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: view life and some of those challenges that come up.

700
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Speaker 5: If if you look at it as I'm happening for you,

701
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: it'll be a different filter that will allow you to

702
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Speaker 5: kind of learn rather than be the victim in a way.

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Speaker 1: That answer alone made me like want to book my

704
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: next trip back to Portland so we could do this again.

705
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Speaker 4: And I can hear about all of the others thing, No.

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Speaker 5: There is I'm very fortunate to be around some of

707
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: the athletes I'm around and some of the experts I'm around,

708
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 5: because they just share like gold all the time, and

709
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 5: it's it is, it's like so much. So many people

710
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: don't realize that, Like, it's really the way our minds

711
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: work that separate us from where we are to where

712
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Speaker 5: we want to be.

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Speaker 3: I think we look at all the other factors of

714
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Speaker 3: like I.

715
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Speaker 5: Don't have enough money, or I don't have I don't

716
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Speaker 5: know enough people, or you know, I'm not talented enough.

717
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: But really, if you can change the way your brain

718
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: processes information and views every single thing in life and

719
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Speaker 5: give your like structure a process and live in vision

720
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Speaker 5: and not in circumstance, I think you will reach any

721
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Speaker 5: goal you want. And I've seen people who come from zero.

722
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Speaker 5: I mean I'm talking like they should not be alive

723
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: today and are you know some of the most successful

724
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: people in the world, And it's purely because they just

725
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: thought differently and they did not allow themselves to take

726
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: in all the inputs from the outside world that told

727
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Speaker 5: them they weren't good enough or they couldn't do it.

728
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: And I think that's that's important, especially like in today's day, right,

729
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: like social media is, it'll tell you more times that

730
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 5: you're not good enough than it will tell you you are.

731
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: And I think that's you've got to really make sure.

732
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Speaker 5: The one thing I will say is control your inputs

733
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Speaker 5: of like what do you let what information, what voice

734
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Speaker 5: or what message are you letting in? Because that's ultimately

735
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: going to be a greater dictator of what where you're

736
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Speaker 5: going than anything. So controlling your inputs is also another

737
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: little kind of nugget that I've been given over the

738
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Speaker 5: years that really really has changed.

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Speaker 3: The way I live.

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Speaker 1: sitting with Ryan Flaherty. He's the senior director of Performance

761
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: here at Nike. You you're throwing down all these like

762
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: gems of mantras and you're talking about all this amazing

763
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: research that you're checking out on the regular.

764
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Speaker 4: Were you a really good student growing up? Or No?

765
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: No, terrible?

766
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Speaker 1: And I feel like that for me as I studied

767
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: five years ago to become a certified personal trainer. But

768
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Speaker 1: even in getting that certification, when I started studying for it,

769
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Speaker 1: in my mind at first, I was like, you weren't

770
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Speaker 1: a really good test taker when you were younger. And

771
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: I feel like as we grow up and we keep

772
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: like obtaining knowledge from other sources. We think about the

773
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: things that we can do with it, and we have

774
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: this like stigma that like, oh, I'm not that I'm

775
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: not really good at doing it this way, or I'm

776
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: not really good at doing it this way. So it's

777
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: so interesting to me to hear that you're getting all

778
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: of this knowledge on the regular and you're so good at.

779
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Speaker 4: Talking about it now. To know about like what you

780
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: were like when you were younger.

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00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, no, I mean, yeah, no, I get

782
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 5: that question actually a lot, because but it's funny. I

783
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: think when I was a kid, I really struggled with

784
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Speaker 5: like the format of how school was. I just struggled

785
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Speaker 5: in kind of being sat in one subject or you know,

786
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: in areas that I didn't wasn't interested in. I really struggled.

787
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 5: But it wasn't until I actually got to grad school

788
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 5: where I was studying things that I knew I would

789
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: use and I loved, like learning about the body because

790
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: I was going to go use this with an athlete

791
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: later that day. I was I could retain that information

792
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: like nothing else, and it was interesting enough. When I

793
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Speaker 5: was a kid, I loved math. I was actually the

794
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Speaker 5: captain of my mathic team, but I was getting like

795
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: c's and d's in every other subject.

796
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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever met a real life math

797
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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was.

799
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Speaker 5: I was a captain of my eighth grade team. Actually

800
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 5: we liked all these high schools and we won a lot.

801
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: But like and all the other subject like English, I was,

802
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: I did not do well in English. I didn't do

803
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: well in a lot of other subjects, but math I

804
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 5: was no. I know, And it would drive my mom

805
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 5: nuts because she was like, how are you so good

806
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 5: in math but you're so bad on all these other subjects.

807
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: And I think it was just because I just I

808
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: think part of it was just there was always an answer,

809
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 5: and I really dug that.

810
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Speaker 3: It was a subjective, you know.

811
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Speaker 5: So I think that and I end up using it now,

812
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: like I use math models to train my athletes and

813
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: look at recovery and taper and performance and all that stuff.

814
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: So it's all comes full circle.

815
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Speaker 5: I think it's just a matter of if you're a

816
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: parent out there, if you're younger and you're still in school,

817
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 5: I think focusing in the areas that you're really good in.

818
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: I think remember that at some point in your life

819
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: you may be actually using that, and so it's important

820
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 5: to remember. But in the other subjects you're not good at,

821
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 5: I think you know, you probably won't use them again.

822
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: But it's you still need to get good grades. I

823
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: wish I would have got better grades.

824
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Speaker 4: But whatever I think, you're doing this, it is what

825
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: it is.

826
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Speaker 1: I've got to know what's like a typical and I please,

827
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Speaker 1: people ask me this all the time and I just

828
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: like roll my eyes at them. But if you had

829
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Speaker 1: to give me a snaps lot of like what a

830
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: day looks like for you around here, what's it look like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So Nike is a meeting culture, which is very

832
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 5: different from what I'm used to as a trainer.

833
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: But so there's a lot of meetings all day.

834
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Speaker 5: But so I wake up, I'll get my workout in

835
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 5: the morning, I'll spend time with my family for a

836
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: little bit early, and then I get here around eight,

837
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 5: and then pretty much from nine to five I've meetings

838
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 5: straight through. So it's it's like, yeah, it's all it's

839
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: all day. You've got to you've got to find pockets

840
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: of time or you've got to be really good. And

841
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: I'm learning this because I struggle with this of like

842
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 5: saying no to certain things that aren't in my main

843
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 5: scope of things that I need to do, because at

844
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 5: first I was like yeah, yeah, well yeah, yes, yes,

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00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: and I'm like, you know, forty eight meetings a day

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Speaker 5: or whatever. But my daily life is pretty much structured

847
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 5: in a way where I go, I have meetings involved

848
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 5: with like the app, the NTC app that we work on.

849
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 5: I'll have podcasts kind of catchups or meetings or like

850
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 5: you know, a guest like touch Base just to figure

851
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: out what we want to talk about, or I'll edit

852
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: a script or something. And then I'm writing workout programs

853
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: for athletes. I have like an hour every day that

854
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: I that I will work on sending my workouts to

855
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: the different athletes I work with, you know, all over

856
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 5: the place. So there's a lot of that digital workout

857
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 5: programming going on throughout the day. I'll sit in and

858
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: oversea kind of like if there's a meeting about some

859
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: editorial content we're going to launch, I will kind of

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Speaker 5: sit in and help make sure that it's based in

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Speaker 5: root in science and evidence.

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: And I do actually that a lot. So because we

863
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Speaker 3: are such.

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00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 5: A big company and such a big brand and well

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Speaker 5: known got we have to be really really sharp and

866
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: know that everything that goes out is fully supported by evidence.

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Speaker 5: And in this in this field, it's changing daily. Like

868
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Speaker 5: I told you how many studies are in the months.

869
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: It's constantly evolving. So we just have to make sure

870
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Speaker 5: we're up speed on what's happening in the field and

871
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: making sure we're up to date on that so we're

872
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: not sharing information that's wrong or you know, old old

873
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: information or research. So I will sit in a lot

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Speaker 5: of meetings kind of making sure that everything that's going

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00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: external facing is is real and correct. So I do

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Speaker 5: a lot of that, and then around five forty five,

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Speaker 5: six o'clock and will be my last meeting, and then

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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: I'll catch up on emails from like six to about

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Speaker 5: six thirty and.

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Speaker 3: Then I head home and I go by seven.

881
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Speaker 4: That's it.

882
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, that's that's when I'm up here.

883
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 5: And then training athletes I'm down is like the reverse

884
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: of just like training athletes all day till like six thirty.

885
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's been a long time.

886
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: So I've been a freelancer, a freelance journalist. When I'm

887
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: not here, when i'm not here, when I'm not in Oregon,

888
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: When I'm not podcasting, which is definitely a passion project

889
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: for me, I spend my nine to five writing articles

890
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: for everyone in the help them all in the space,

891
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: from GQ to Shape and Self, et cetera, et cetera.

892
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: And it's been a long time.

893
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: I've been freelance for almost two years now that I've

894
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: sat down with someone who told me what they do

895
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: and in my life that it would be.

896
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: A job I actually wanted.

897
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: That's cool because I mean I'm listening to all the

898
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: things that you're saying, like talking about like really creating

899
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: smart content, and that's like my strength. And then also

900
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: obviously the sports side of things, and I hear what

901
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: you're saying about like just the high caliber of what

902
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: you're putting out into the world, and I think that's

903
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: such an awesome, inspiring thing to strive for because you

904
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: really set this bar right. It's like subpar isn't an

905
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: option here at Nike, Like that's not an option for you.

906
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: So how can you, despite being in forty nine meetings

907
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: every day create the best of the best? And that's

908
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: really I mean walking around this campus like that's what

909
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: everybody's all about.

910
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of really talented people here.

911
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 5: I mean, I think my first six months at Nike,

912
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: I was blown away by the amount of talented people

913
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: that are here and how smart everybody is in there,

914
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: and not just in their given kind of trade or

915
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: or what craft or what they do, like whether it's

916
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 5: marketing or product design or you know, footwear design or whatever,

917
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: but also just like how well read they are outside

918
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: of that too.

919
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: You know.

920
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 5: I have people constantly coming up to me about, you know,

921
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: did you read that new paper about you know, the

922
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: effects of I don't know, uric acid, you know, and

923
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: it's like, whoa where you read that stuff? And like

924
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: where do you find time to like sketch all those

925
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: shoes and then still have time to read all this stuff.

926
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: So there are so many smart people here, which makes

927
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 5: this place just so fun to work at. I think

928
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 5: that's like, I'm sure you've experienced it in a way

929
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: where everyone you talk to it it's like wow, that

930
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 5: that they're like really good at what they do, and

931
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 5: that's that's like a big part of who's attracted to

932
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: Nike and who Nike brings in there. They bring in

933
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 5: really smart people and so I think, yeah, it lifts

934
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: everyone's game I mean, you have to be you have

935
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: to be on top of it otherwise, like I'll get

936
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 5: called out by you know, people in the room of like, ah,

937
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: are you sure that's like the real you know, off

938
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: to go and show them, like, yes, it is. But

939
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: the fact that they're cat reading enough to get even

940
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: close to that is super inspiring for me. So it is,

941
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: and it's a lot of pressure, I think to make

942
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 5: sure that we are staying on top of the reading

943
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 5: and I'm constantly staying on top of all that stuff

944
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 5: to to help us, you know, try to be the

945
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: best in that in the space, because it's something that

946
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 5: Nike's not you know, done before. I think we've been

947
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: amazing at product, but to really like start sharing information

948
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: that we're doing with the podcast and what we're going

949
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: to do with content and you know, the future of

950
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: what Nike's going to do here and moving in we're

951
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: in the apps and services of our athletes, is that

952
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: we also have to do it do it at the

953
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 5: level that we do you know, our footwear and apparel

954
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 5: and which is very high. So it is, but it's

955
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: a high you know, a lot of pressure. But it's

956
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: at the same time, I think what drives you, you know,

957
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: and it's like equal mind you know, people who are

958
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 5: all of the same type of mind and thinking here,

959
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 5: which is super inspiring to it.

960
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: Sounds like a lot Yeah, in the chaos. How do

961
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: you find some work life balance?

962
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've said this before, and I hope

963
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 5: this doesn't sound super controversial, but I don't.

964
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: I don't think there's such thing.

965
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I think if you want to be the

966
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: best in the world at what you want to do,

967
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 5: which is what I strive to be, is I think

968
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: a lot a lot of people, I athletes, that trainers,

969
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: strive to be you can't have work life balance, but

970
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: you have to have boundaries. And I think that's the

971
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 5: biggest thing is it's there's no such thing as work

972
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: life balance.

973
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: It does not exist.

974
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: However, boundaries do exist, and I think being able to

975
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 5: like get home and shut off the phone and computer

976
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 5: and making sure that you're present with your family or

977
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: your you know, significant other or your friends is something

978
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: that really allows you to be because if you want

979
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: to be great at your career, your passion, that you

980
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: also have to be great at you know, all the

981
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: other things that are important to you. Relationships and if

982
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: I were to come in here and my phone's going off,

983
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: I'm texting, I'm talking to somebody and I'm not present,

984
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 5: Like that's going to make you feel like I don't

985
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 5: value your time, which I do. And so it's it's

986
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 5: about having boundaries of being able to shut off everything

987
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: that's not important in the present moment. And something I

988
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: always tell my athletes, like the one we have this

989
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: tagline that same guy, doctor Kevin Elko.

990
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Told me, which is like be where your feet are.

991
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: And I always remind people of that of like wherever

992
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: my feed are, that's where I am. It's not like, oh,

993
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 5: I'm texting this person about the meeting next or you know,

994
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: thinking about like that appointment I have later. I want

995
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: to be like right here with you. And I think

996
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: that's really what I strive to be, and that's being

997
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: able to create boundaries.

998
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: Now I suck at it sometimes.

999
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: So there's like my wife will tell you like, oh wow,

1000
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 5: like you're the one telling everyone to have boundaries.

1001
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: But you know, she's kind of be like, you threw

1002
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: me under the bus about the website.

1003
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna throw into the bus a lot. She's

1004
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: used to it, but no, but I mean it's just

1005
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: the boundaries is what's important. So again, I think like

1006
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: reframing it from balance to boundaries is a really clear

1007
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: distinction and different than most people think about it, because

1008
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: it's almost impossible to have that balance, especially when you're

1009
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 5: so passionate about something. If you're working in something that

1010
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 5: you just don't like, then that's a great sign that

1011
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't be doing it.

1012
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: But be that. It's easy to have balance in that

1013
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: way because you're not like drawn back into it.

1014
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: It's the people who are super passionate about what they're doing

1015
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: and work somewhere where everybody's really driven to get stuff done.

1016
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: That's where balance becomes impossible. And if you want to

1017
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 5: be great, you can't. You have to just have boundaries.

1018
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: I've got to meet doctor Kevin.

1019
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: He's he's pretty awesome.

1020
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: It sounds like you obviously admire the work that he does.

1021
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he does amazing work. He's written a bunch

1022
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: of books. He's out there and you guys can search me.

1023
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 5: He's got a bunch of videos on YouTube and doctor

1024
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: Kevin Elko lkoh.

1025
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so.

1026
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: He's the head sports psychologist for the Alabama football team

1027
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 5: in the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl, And I mean,

1028
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: like Nick Saban, who's the Alabama coach, will say, he's

1029
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: like he will not let anyone else talk to his team,

1030
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: but doctor Elco and he just the way he frames it,

1031
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: the way he puts it is it's very tangible and

1032
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: it makes complicated things make sense, and I think that's important.

1033
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, So, I mean, but I pulled from there's.

1034
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 5: Ten sports psychologists out there, Angela Duckworth at Penn who

1035
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: her work in Grid is just phenomenal, and so there's

1036
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: just so the cool part about today too is there's

1037
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: just so much information out there, but you just kind

1038
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 5: of have to have nowhere to look, you know.

1039
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure outside of doctor Kevin, who else would

1040
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: you say you look to for career advice or who

1041
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: do you just look up to in general?

1042
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.

1043
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: I look up to a lot of people, people who

1044
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: aren't really kind of trying to make a massive change

1045
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 5: in the world, that also are willing to risk their

1046
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: own personal reputation or their life is going to be

1047
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: like forever altered by them making this decision, but they

1048
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: know it's in the greater good of the world. So

1049
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 5: like Barack Obama is a massive inspiration for me, somebody

1050
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: I totally look up to and think is amazing. I

1051
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: think other people who are in the fields that just

1052
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: are are Their life is to further the work in

1053
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 5: research and science and information for people to live better lives.

1054
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 5: So like Matthew Walker at Berkeley, Sherry Mott Stanford, Angela

1055
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Duckworth at Penn and her work in Grit is amazing

1056
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 5: because the work she did actually went to go show

1057
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 5: that talent isn't the greatest indication of success.

1058
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: It's it's hard work and perseverance.

1059
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like that'shus It's such a good perk.

1060
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: I haven't read it yet, it's literally on my.

1061
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, those are the people that I'm super inspired by.

1062
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: And I'm also inspired by every people who started with

1063
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: nothing in life and and and are doing the best

1064
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 5: they can to like just can be happy through it all,

1065
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: you know, Like there's I get I find inspiration in everybody.

1066
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 5: I think it's that you can do if you look

1067
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: at people different.

1068
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: You know, if you look at people different.

1069
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: If you right now were to look back at the

1070
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: guy who is struggling through this huge life change of

1071
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: probably not playing football for the rest of his life

1072
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: and now you're this guy working at Nike and life's

1073
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: a lot different than you thought it would be. What's

1074
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: one piece of advice you'd offer that guy looking back

1075
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: on that hurdle moment right now?

1076
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 5: If everybody like looked at their life and looked back

1077
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: and at all the moments when they were really really

1078
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 5: stressed and anxious or doubtful about where their life was headed,

1079
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 5: if they look back and they see like, oh, well,

1080
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 5: I actually came through that and I'm better for it.

1081
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 5: Or I think it's it's to realize that it's always

1082
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 5: going to end up okay. And I think that's the

1083
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: biggest thing is we tend to go through life and

1084
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: have these big moments, you know, like right around that

1085
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: same time when I got injured, my mom passed away

1086
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: from cancer. So there's always things in my life that

1087
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: kind of fell apart at once. And you know, I struggled.

1088
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: I went through a lot where I didn't know where

1089
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: I was going or what I was doing, and lost

1090
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 5: my way in life a little bit for a few years.

1091
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: And I think that I now can look back and

1092
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 5: know that all of that happened for me, and I

1093
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: can you know it was setting me up to live

1094
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 5: the life that I'm currently living what I'm going to

1095
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: do in the future. But I think we all go

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Speaker 5: through amazing, crazy things in life. But it's just to

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Speaker 5: know that it's always going to be okay, it's going

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Speaker 5: to work out and if anything, it'll always work out

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Speaker 5: for the better, and to not stress and be anxious

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Speaker 5: about the unknown. I think it's it's it's it's okay.

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Speaker 5: And because the only thing we can control is the

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Speaker 5: present moment. So I think we always get either caught

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00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 5: up of like judging our past or you know, fearing

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Speaker 5: our future, and it's just the present is always the

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00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: best teacher. It's where everything happens, and it's where the

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Speaker 5: choices are made to dictate where we're going. So I

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Speaker 5: think just reminding myself to be present and not to

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Speaker 5: worry because it'll it's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Bomb Mike.

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Speaker 1: Say, if you knew that you only had one more

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00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to either open or close your podcast and you

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Speaker 1: get to put like one more message out into the universe,

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Speaker 1: this is a big cue. So I feel like you're

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Speaker 1: gonna like talk this out a little bit so you

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Speaker 1: can think on it a little bit. You think you

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Speaker 1: have one more opportunity to put some to drop another

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Speaker 1: knowledge bomb on me?

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Speaker 4: What uh, what knowledge are you gonna drop? What are

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Speaker 4: you gonna leave them with?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: For me, it's it's funny because every time I talk

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Speaker 5: and like if you listen to the podcast, you kind

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00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: of get this if like, it always comes back to

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00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: the like how your mind works and the psychology of

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Speaker 5: it all. And I think, because I just have seen

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00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: of doing this for so long, it like has so

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00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: little to do with their physical ability or talent, and

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Speaker 5: it has so much more to do with like how

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Speaker 5: they think and process and how they attack goals and

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Speaker 5: they're how driven they are.

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Speaker 3: So I would say it always is going to go

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Speaker 3: back to the mind for me.

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Speaker 5: But I think, you know, there's a story of I

1134
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Speaker 5: share this with all my athletes. But there was an

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Speaker 5: a Winter Olympics where there was a there's a famous

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Speaker 5: hockey player, Yamr Yager who's played for year twenty years

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Speaker 5: in the NHL, and he was playing for the Czech

1138
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Speaker 5: Republic and they're playing Russia for the finals and they

1139
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: were not expected to be there and he's worn his

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Speaker 5: whole career, he's won the number sixty eight right, and

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Speaker 5: it's pretty common, like the sixties and seventies is a

1142
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 5: common hockey number, So it wasn't no one ever thought

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Speaker 5: much of it. And and right before the game, he

1144
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: stood up and he totally addressed his team, basically saying

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Speaker 5: like I today, I'm not playing for myself or my

1146
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: family or you guys. I'm playing for my grandparents who

1147
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: lost their lives in the Russian occupation of nineteen sixty eight.

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Speaker 5: And every day I wore this number number sixty eight

1149
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: or to remind me of my why, and like why

1150
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: he practices and when he doesn't want to work out,

1151
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 5: his number reminds him every single day of why he's

1152
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: able to play and he's given the opportunity. So he

1153
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 5: shared that and everybody kind of stood up and they

1154
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: w out and they ended up winning the gold medal,

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00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: and it was like this huge upset, but I think

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00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 5: it was a great reminder. And I always tell everybody,

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Speaker 5: all my athletes, like what's your sixty eight? It's very

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00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 5: similar like that, Simon Sinek, like what's your why? But

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Speaker 5: every day you wake up a lot of times people

1160
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: struggle to do things for themselves, but they can do

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Speaker 5: things for others. And so I think that's where you

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Speaker 5: got to figure out why do you wake up every

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Speaker 5: day and who are you doing it for? And make

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Speaker 5: sure you remind yourself of that every day. So I

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Speaker 5: have my athletes on their phone and their mirror when

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 5: they wake up in the morning, they ride out there

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Speaker 5: sixty eight, but it's really their why of Like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm doing this for my mom who you know passed

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Speaker 5: away and couldn't like fulfill her dreams. I'm gonna make

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Speaker 5: her proud for you know, do an amazing jobs been

1171
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Speaker 5: raising me and my sisters or something, and like that

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Speaker 5: is my wife. So when I get out of bed

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Speaker 5: every morning when I don't want to work, I don't

1174
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Speaker 5: want to eat it, or I don't want to show

1175
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: up to work, or I don't want to like be

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00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 5: a you know, great husband or you know, whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: that will always give me the motivation to do my

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Speaker 5: best in life. And because I'm honoring something outside of myself.

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Speaker 5: And I think we all can kind of rally behind

1180
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: something else rather than ourselves because we struggle with that sometimes,

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Speaker 5: you know, that internal motivation.

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Speaker 3: So it's important for people.

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Speaker 5: To realize and remember and to write down and document,

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00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 5: like what is your sixty eight and to every single day,

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00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: maybe even five times a day. I've athletes who need

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Speaker 5: it like ten times a day. But write it down

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00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 5: and read it and remind yourself of why you're doing

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Speaker 5: what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, the woman that I was working with when

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Speaker 1: figuring out all the logistics to come in here today,

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Speaker 1: when she told me that we were going to sit down,

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Speaker 1: I was geeked.

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Speaker 4: I was absolutely geeked about the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And now having had it, I can definitely say that

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm better for it.

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Speaker 4: Nike, just do it. Thanks so much, man, I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 1: Of course, please take a moment to leave a quick

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Speaker 1: review by clicking the link with the description of this episode.

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Speaker 1: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at

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Speaker 1: hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Hurdle podcast Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Where do they find you? Where do they find Trained?

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Speaker 1: I never get to promote anybody else's podcasts in here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah, no, I mean we'd love to have

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Speaker 3: you guys. Come listen. It's Trained.

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Speaker 5: iOS and iTunes and you know, all all of them

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Speaker 5: wherever they find this podcast. So yeah, that's where you

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Speaker 5: could find us. And I'm on Instagram if you want

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Speaker 5: to hit me up at Ryan J. Flaherty and you

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Speaker 5: can drop a line and ask a question.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I am at Emily Abodi. Another hurdle conquered. Catch

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Speaker 1: you guys next time.