WEBVTT - Episode 269 w/ Lil Mo 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:18.080 and I Heart Radio and his Drinks Motherfucking Podcast. Mason, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.080 He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segre It is your 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.080 boy in O R E. He's a Miami hippop pioneer. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.000 Up is d J e f N. Together they drink 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.639 it up with some of the biggest players in the 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.199 most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one sort for 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.600 drunk drinks Mother. Every day is New Year's E time 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:49.880 for drink Champs, Trink Up Mother Mother? Would it good? 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.560 Beat Hopeully's would it Ship be? This is your boy 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.040 and what up is d J E f and his 0:00:54.200 --> 0:01:00.880 drinks has? Motherfucker yad cast makes up? Look And when 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.960 we're talking about legends, we're talking about legend legends you 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.280 talking about I believe came out since Nanty six been 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.320 out here, monkey Foot in the game doing when she 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:17.440 gotta do, got Hits, pawn Hits, dominated the music career, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.000 then went on, uh you know, did tours all that 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.759 while being a mother, you know, holding down the mothership. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:33.679 Then also went and dominated reality TV. As Wow, you 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.800 understand what I'm saying. She came a little late, so 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.600 we're gonna get we gonna get straight into it o'clock. Girl, 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.760 don't worry about I don't worry about what we're talking 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:53.760 about mout So let me ask you right this big 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.720 controversy that's going on right now with Trick Daddy saying that, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.760 but Yance can't tang right, I gotta start there because 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.880 you being a singers singer, you're like, like, I can 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.040 tell you went to church, like you know, it's it's 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.120 it's throughout that all that. What do you what do 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.120 you hear when you what do you think of when 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.119 you hear people say that about the Queen Beyonce? It's 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.679 the audacity for me, Like, if you don't sing, you 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.800 don't have no room to tell who can't sing? If 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.160 you don't like something, then you could give your opinion nobody. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.120 Because I had this honestly, I had this conversation a 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.880 week ago with Trina. I was like, what you think 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.160 about people automatically putting you in that because that's your people. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.600 She was like, no slander for the queen will be accepted. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.720 You feel me, it's just certain things. Beyonce is our queen, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.000 so us as singers, us as artists We have seen 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.200 her pushed through since she was fourteen fifteen Rocket Hills 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.079 on the Runway on the with the Celettos, dancing from 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.440 group to now being a mom, to being a solo 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.760 artist to flying in there. Nobody does that in music, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.720 So you're going to respect that. If you don't like 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.680 the way she's saying, don't listen period. But but I 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.240 believe what he was trying to say. It's like because 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.720 Betty Right is like, like, um, that's like she's the vocalist. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.079 You rest in peace to her. So so is he? 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.919 Is he when he thinks that? Is he comparing Betty 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.720 Right to be honest? Is that's what he's doing with that? 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.080 I had saw with like how he tried to He 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.040 never he never backed down. He stood firm in his opinion. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.680 But he yeah, But he was trying to say, like 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.200 Whitney Houston and h he named other days Anita Baker, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.840 Gladys Night, Beyonce is not that type of artist, like 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.280 she can go there because she's done the movie like 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.080 Ella fish Gerald, Uh, where did she do? La? Wasn't 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.960 all yeah when she yeah when she sings like she 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.640 could give you that. But she's all around entertainer. We've 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.400 never seen Anita go up in the air and sing 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.520 upside down. We've never seen Anita do the booty hop. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.360 We've never seen Whitney. Whitney can say she came straight 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.600 from church and that's what she was. But from a 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:58.040 singer's perspective, if you honestly have ever been in any 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.240 of their presence, you can see they have difference. Asks 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.720 like me and her don't even sound like So there's 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.160 a lot of people who could do what you do, 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.160 but you can't do what they do, and vice versa. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.240 So with that being said, since he does this thing, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.640 I understand his opinion. But let's just be real and 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.960 let's be honest. This generation, if I ask my kids 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.560 right now, my oldest is eighteen, my youngest five, have 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.400 you ever heard of needy? Who that you feel me? 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.640 They know who Beyonce is, They're not gonna know who 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.200 a Betty Right is. So it behooves us to be like, Okay, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.600 this is y'all Betty right? What this is my Betty Right? 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.440 So honestly, yeah, it's the generation, this inneration. Don't be careous. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.480 So let me ask you all my kids don't care 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.800 and then you care about me perspective, What does it 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.720 take to be a real true singer? From your perspective, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.960 there's gifts and there's talents, and then there's people who 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.560 just get by because like, let's just be real, there's 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.480 a lot of people, in my opinion, be like they 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.120 can't say but I won't say it anymore. I used 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:57.120 to say it out loud, but I realized, altot honestly 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.400 save the music industry because there's a lot of people 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.320 who can't even up on be who can't even wrap orders. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.200 We're gonna be key because people be. You ever see 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.640 people they'll sing there, they'll wrap their song and then 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.200 when they get live, you're like, why is you yelling? You? 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.400 But your hands up like it is what it is. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.320 But although to honestly save the music industry, the sound 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.880 has changed since I came out. I started touring in 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.600 ninety three, ninety one. I was still in high school, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.479 so my uncle took me on tour. So that's where 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.920 I got to learn sound and tone, pitch control, all 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.960 of that stuff. Because I'm thinking I could sing and 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.640 he'll call me. He'd be like, what's that diaphragm doing? 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.240 Because don't get out there just hollering. But yeah, so 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.320 the technical part of singing, there's only a couple of 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.320 people who get it. And it's not even your throat 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.839 or your diaphragm, it's what you hear and you have 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.240 to think about what you're gonna do before that sound 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.359 even comes about your out your mouth. And because it 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.800 was being used in studios, people was using vote quarters 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.760 and stuff, which was a formal auto tune because you 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.600 plug it up to a keyboard on the microphone and 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.440 it actually balances out, you know, the note that's supposed 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.400 to be correct sauce if you turn it off and 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.719 don't documented. We were teeth pain and saying that I 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:20.000 shall um killed the Yeah, there's actually documentary that goes 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.960 with it. I am Pop and the guy who invented 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.240 auto tunes on there and he said it's because he 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.560 was recording his boss's wife and uh, his boss wife 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.760 knew she couldn't sing, and said, I need I swear 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.400 to God, I can't sing, but I wanna look like 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:41.080 I can. And then he made auto tune for like 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.840 people automatically think auto tune auto makes you sound good, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.800 It doesn't. You have to have somebody that's a skilled 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.280 engineer know how to balance it up because there's melodine, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.039 there's vocal, a line, there's so many things that people 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.240 just and I'm like, I use auto tune because they 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.560 are Sometimes I'll be like, okay, I have a strong vibrato, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:07.240 so I was I don't like the then when you 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.240 hear people but some people going and I'm like, oh no, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.800 it's like pitch correct. It's auto correct. So have you 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.320 type of somebody type to give you a suggestion, this 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.160 is what you should use. But the blessing about what 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.840 I have is that I don't need it, but I 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.200 use it because I realized that the sound, but whatever 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.720 they corrected to, I can still do it with my voice. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:32.240 That's a gift basically. Yeah, if you're just like if 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.440 you have a saxophone, if you all what it's gonna do, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.280 it's gonna be squeaking. But even when you use the 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.840 auto twol you never used it live because that's like 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.880 a whole different skill. Yeah. I always use like reverb 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.640 or a little delay live because it's something those plug 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.160 ins or those things were created so you can still 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.120 have that feel. Because if I'm singing in this room, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.320 the acoustics on it's gonna make you feel something. But 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.320 if I'm singing in the dynamic or we're singing in 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.080 the dome, the sound goes up, it's not gonna sound 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.640 the same as in he So those things were created 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.240 by people, by master people sitting in from the computer 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.240 all days saying Okay, this is the sound I want 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.080 to I want to captivate that same sound as if 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.760 we're still here. So have you ever heard that there's 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.040 a difference between a dry mic, a rappers mike, and 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.240 the singers mike. I always tell people I do a 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.720 lot of shows with rappers to this day, and I'm like, 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.920 don't make my mic sound like a rapper mike. They 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.360 don't use reverb, they don't use auto tune, they don't 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:36.559 use delay, they don't ye period. Oh my god. So um, okay, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.160 let's think it from the beginning. Right when we google, 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.840 you would say he was born in Long Island, but 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.320 then you moved to bottom Are. No. I was born 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.520 and raised in Long Island, between Long Island and South 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.760 South Jamaica Queens. So my dad joined the military. After that, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:57.319 we moved to Texas, Atlanta, North Carolina Army. Okay, saw 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.959 my army brat so from the like, I literally been 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.079 on tour since I was thirteen, So yeah, it's been up. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.920 So that's why when I got into the music industry, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.440 it really wasn't as much change. I'm used to moving around, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.840 so I've been everywhere, not like I'll find they at. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.679 The final stop was in uh Fort Meat, Maryland, but 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.720 it's right outside of Baltimore. So I was just like, yeah, 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.000 I'm just read Baltimore and that's where I've been the longest. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.760 So New York I was like, well, I was born 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.520 and raised and that's where I honestly God, I was saying, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:29.320 my grid and my Then I moved back to New 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.000 York after that, and from there I had toward I 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.360 moved back to New York to go to hair school. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.439 I was going to Long Island Beauty School. But um, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.360 I had got to call. Right before I got the 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.480 call from Missy. I was on tour with Gangstar when 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:49.000 it was when they did jazz my task just so 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.800 I was to like after like from the Gang Star tour, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.400 I took over. Indeed dat I was singing, indeed death reports, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.600 but I want to trust you, baby. I was young, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:05.880 I was my dad side, I was outside side. So 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.440 I toured that like I sang his eyes on the 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.200 sparrow and keeps recipees to him his living room and 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.480 he was like you want to go into I was 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.160 like yeah, because he was guru when it was him 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.959 in Premier. But when we did Jansitest, he was Mr 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.760 Little or Keith. It's always amazing. At least the first 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.400 one he did too, right, he didn't so when it 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.160 did come to make it a lot of people didn't 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.079 know that. You know what is like because that was 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.920 like that like that was my security. Yeah. So to 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.080 this day we still hit each other and be like, yo, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.439 that's crazy. You always saying what you was gonna did. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.920 So I went overseas with them. I was hyped up, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.160 had a passport many me coming straight out of high 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:53.640 school and hair school. Shoot, it's about seventeen. So then 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:58.240 after that, um I started doing her bread hair in 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.679 Queens and I was a valley stream more. One day 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.880 I was at the Yeah yeah I got I had 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.160 a beep up and that's when Missy had they had 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.680 beat me from election. Was like missing wanted to call 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.680 now my job still ratchet? Okay, but who what version 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.800 of Missy is this, this is, this is I Yeah, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.880 So that was like ninety eight because I believe we 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.599 didn't like I didn't like the flood games open, but like, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.120 what did you hear of you that she's reaching out 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.360 some songs that I had reference for artists because I 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:36.160 was getting placements. So they had like Michael Speaks a 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.880 Dina Howard. It was like when they had like that, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.520 that's when you could they say to who's looking list? 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.319 So it was submitting songs, but I was like, none 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.000 of this motherfucker's is getting place. But then I later 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.199 found out this is what one of the producers told me. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.640 They were just like, you have to dumb down your 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:55.000 singing because you're singing too much. It's intimidated to artists. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.120 So I was only getting placements at that time, or 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.839 like Gerald Leaverte and like those type of artists. So 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:07.800 I'm a young vocal said you're doing more than the reference. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.960 He was doing the same. But I was just like yeah, 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.559 because I'm like, come with it ain't no since to 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.559 me just saying that regular and then you beat me 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.240 on it, and then you know, I mean because at 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.280 the end of the day, if I do the record, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.640 it might be a chance I might have to keep 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.800 it because I'm still an artist. But I wasn't signed, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.280 but I was just like I knew what I was doing. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.120 Have you ever did a record for somebody and then 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:25.400 they did it and he was like, you wish you 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:33.959 took it back? H Honestly, don't get away now. I 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:35.679 recently did a record. I had to go back and 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.199 do my part over because I was like my son 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.400 told me, Yo, Paine got out on you on this record. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.120 You gotta go do your part over. So yeah, you're 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.240 not gonna you're Have you gave up a record to 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.839 an artist and like you know, wrote for them or 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.079 reference for them, and they didn't do do it to 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.000 it what you wanted them to do. No. I was 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.920 always the person that, hey, we gave somebody record, we 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.400 want you to sing their part over. That's how I 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.839 got a crop like it's a it's a whole. I mean, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.200 it's it's some history. It was never anything I did 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.920 that because other than that, I wouldn't give it away. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.120 Like I'm real strategic and particular about songs that like 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.400 you have to be those are your babies, that's that's 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.840 your that's your job. So you can't just give anybody anything. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.720 It don't work like that. There are some songs I'll 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.960 be like, uh that I had to vocal produce for people, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.040 and I'm just like, you know, I'm gonna just go 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.520 ahead and in there and sing it for them. So 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.400 that's happened. You watched the shot, I saw like a 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.000 little bit of it. My mom watches it. So I 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.679 don't really watch TV that much because I know you 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.000 don't be you don't stay home, don't be home. It's 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.920 not that, it's just like it's just so much going on. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.320 Like I'm back on my glow ship, like I'm trying 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.640 to win. So unless they're calling me to be on that, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.439 I really don't. Really. That's a great show, and I 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.760 know it's something that question I asked you, like, did 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.920 you have a have a record and give it? Because 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.880 you know what we always say. We always say that's 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.360 my baby, like that's artists. We always say that's my baby. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.800 But every now and then we'll give away a record 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.640 and be like, damn, that's my On the shot, this 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.880 lady gave me away her baby, but then the last 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.320 episode she wants a baby back. That's why I asked 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.720 you that question, Okay, go back to miss here's the records. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.800 What records is shearing? Do you know? It was some 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.080 references I did, and she told marylan Bob to tell 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.040 me to call her. And so when I when I 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.920 was finished getting my nails, I remember looking at my 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.200 beep and it was a two one to them and 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.160 I knew two on to mean green aggles. I was 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.600 just like that. That's so I was like hello. Rick 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.520 Brown was like, Marillan want to speak to you. Marillan 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:32.880 gets on the phone. He was like, Missy wants you 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.640 to call. I'm like, get the funk out here they go. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.720 I'm in Green Eggs getting my nails and why would 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.200 Missy elli woman call he? He was like, you have 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.160 something that you could write the number? Then we ain't 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.200 have cell phones. We could just say what texted to me. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.120 So I had to find a pencil and I wrote 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.280 it down at the pay phone. And so I called 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.880 her from a pay phone and she was like hello, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.160 hold on. I think she might have been in her 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.200 Landbow or something and she was like, let me turn 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.880 this music down. She was like, hey, yo, you like 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.840 do you want to go into Like what exactly do 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.760 you want to do. I'm like, first of all, is 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.560 this really Missy? And then after that she was like, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.120 can you come to the city today. I went to 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.280 the city and the rest was history. Like literally, I 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.800 was always I just always just know to be on go. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.760 And that was Missy at the Electra. She was at 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.760 the Electric time and that's where you eventually got signed to. Yes, okay, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.120 so how does that happen? All right, you're missing going 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.600 the studio ever we court record? So what is this? Okay? 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.600 First I going in and I sing at Whitney Houston. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.680 I think I sank saving all my love for you. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.680 Oh so you wait a wait a minute. You auditioning 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.640 for miss You know what it is is because sometimes 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.120 you can hear somebody on the record and be like, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.920 let me see how the sound. That's kind I'm saying 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:36.080 because be the other sigers. Yeah. So she was just like, yo, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.440 I'm about to go on tour. You trying to go? 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.200 And I was like yeah, And I quit beauty School 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.800 literally right on the spot, like them, I ain't going back. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:48.960 I told him I was gonna be famous. Yeah. Because 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.400 now we also hold on just make sure we finished 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.280 the Missy thing. But we also we've in a view 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.800 people from five six almost six years. I always studied 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.480 people's drinks. So you're re sling person, Yeah, because hard 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:07.400 liquor just don't really okay, But let me stick on 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.680 the racling right now because I'm ready for shot. Don't 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.120 like prosecco, but no, no, no, I can't stand for 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.720 a secon. I can't stand like I'm getting grown. You 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.040 can't think about you with me? Ain't you no? Because 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.040 I just like if I'm if I'm gonna drink something hard, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.080 I gotta go all the way. It ain't no in between. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.240 Like the other week, I drank a whole thing of 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.320 Don Julie. I was hyped up. I hadn't been outside 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.080 in the year. I don't even remember like I was, 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.080 and I didn't even remember going through the t S 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.840 a period like I was like, how did we get back? 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.760 Did we have? This is a time that we praise 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.600 our artists, so we have to give you a shot. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.760 What shot would you like to have? I'm about to 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.600 put a recent in it, or you gotta get it. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.080 You gotta get a super woman some of the summer 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 watermelon list. That's what I'm talking about. Something I got 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.560 to listen I'm not gonna lie, and I need a 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:57.080 bottle of water because it's a watermelon. That's watermelon. Yeah 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.600 you never had it. I never had that. Yeah, there 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.960 you go, there you go. Look at that, Look at that, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.880 Look at that. We have set up. This is ladies first. Goddamnit. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.159 We got the super Woman and the god damn building. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.080 Thank you. Alright, let's got that. Like Floyd said, did 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:24.280 they pay so? Alottle solot, Come on, that's good. But 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.320 I don't like what alcohol tastes like alcohol because that 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.680 makes me feel like I might have to go to 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.000 your drinking choice, with your drinking choice before recently of 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.840 me goes. You know, I'm not gonna lie. You keep 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.400 naming the hardest calls. I'm saying. It's like you guys, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.920 gotta go all the way to the top or ain't 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.840 let me just get a little up right there. No, 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.480 you gotta go hard. But that cos of me goes 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:54.359 will put you on your ass a megoes, So you 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.240 have missing do y'all actually going to all from there? Yeah? 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.560 We went overseas the whole United States tour and we 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:06.000 did hot Boys in that interim and the boys she 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.439 was like, Yo, this is about to be out of here, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.440 and I believed her, she believed to me, and the 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.959 rest is literally history. Then after that, like now when 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.560 you was on a lecture, that's Sylvia role my lecture. Yes, okay, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.040 serial roll Merlin Bob, Okay, how was that? Because, um, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.720 I've never got to I know Sylvia Rome obviously, but 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.800 I've never got to work with that sense of woman power, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.239 you know what I mean. Like even when I got 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.560 to work with Mona, Mona wasn't the Mona that she 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.480 is now. I worked her violator, but U yeah, that's right, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.280 I know. But um, so how was that? Because I 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.800 don't think I've ever worked with a black woman CEO, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.480 and especially now that's going on right right now, like 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.760 how we all were all proud to be like how 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.960 was it? Um, you know working with that black girl? Magic? It? Okay? 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.960 So me coming from not knowing the industry to being 0:18:55.200 --> 0:19:00.119 like literally placed in the upper executive hand like this, Oh, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.200 Sylvia wants to meet you with you and then I 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.040 go on her office and I'm thinking I gotta sit 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:05.920 like this. She'd be like, yo, yes she is fine, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.000 and I'm just I'm like, yo, okay, I get it. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.639 Like you know, I was thinking that the executives have 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.760 to act all like stuck up like Sylvia Road. Yeah 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.320 it was. It really was because my thoughts of the industry, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.160 and when I actually got into it, I was just like, Wow, 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.520 make you feel more secure because you had a woman 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.680 because she's a real black woman, Like she don't play 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.159 Like I realized now what I should have realized then, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.760 like she really had my back because I was running 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.240 around doing so everybody. She was like, like, what are 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.040 you doing? Ain't your friends? You know? I gotta actually 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.680 like you really had your back. At one point, you 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.840 thought she didn't. I thought she didn't because people would 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.320 get in my ear and say stuff like, yeah, she 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.639 should be spending money. Why you only put my only 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.960 putting out this song? When when are they gonna believe 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.120 in you if they spent this on this, Oh because 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.560 you're not light skin? Did it was all of that, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.680 and I'm just like, yo, when you start hearing that 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.760 you don't automatically, I'm like, damn, she keeps it. I 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.439 keep on getting unlimited car services and she put six 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.159 hundred thousands in my account. So I'm bawling right now. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.200 I was literally what years old and she sent the 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:18.320 bag for really one thing about Sylvia, she has no 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.000 like she's the one like everybody else. If you get 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.160 signed to somebody else, you have to wait for the clearances. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.760 Cy say, send it over, Burper does like they sent 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:31.760 it over between uh, Sylvia and Slim. They're the only 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.960 ones that I know can literally make a phone call 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.280 and the baggage with Yeah, you've got a good because 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.200 a lot of people having bad stories for cash money. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.320 So you have good cash money stories. Yeah. Yes, got 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.000 paid and shot like bad videos and got paid. It's 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.080 like I can understand where things go. But you have 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.080 to know who to. You have to know how to 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.159 handle your business. You know what I'm saying. Like I 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.840 was signed to them, but it was Merlin. Bob did 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.960 a joint venture with them. It was called round Tape 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.480 at that time. I don't remember this. Yeah, it was 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.720 because they were doing like side they had the cash 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.800 money classes with tinam Reresid Pistoja and then they had 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.639 round Table. They had other deals that was going on. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:11.920 So the blessing and I think the reason why I 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.040 don't really have any war stories is because they respected 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.320 me as an artist. Number one. Number two is it 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.840 was literally right around when Katrina happened, so the label 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.920 shut down anyway, so it was almost like I didn't 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.360 even have to do anything but shoot videos and then 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.840 they just let that company dissolved. I was like, I 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.919 didn't have to go through any foolish but I got 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.359 to work and do shows and stuff with Wayne, so 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.359 I got the benefits, worked with Mandy Fresh, got to 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.080 work with Baby, so the checks was like it was 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.000 running up. So I'm not mad at it, and to 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.639 this day, like still the respect is dead. That's dope. Now, 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.040 when I googled you, this is something that that that 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.800 probably got a little crazy for me, right, not not crazy, 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.200 not crazy, but it was like when I when I 0:21:59.920 --> 0:22:02.320 was got deeper, they put all of your husband's right, 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:10.080 they put your husband's out. Husband's husband was actually the 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.560 dates and the time. And I've been wondering who did 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:19.320 get information? Who is the Wikipedia, Google god wizard of 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.040 all that knows all this because it'll be something and 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.800 I've been like, what, I ain't even remember that. It's 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:29.040 somebody that big brother. Maybe it's the government defense, you 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.960 know what the defenses. But yeah, I saw that tip. 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.920 That's crazy. That's how did you feel when you've seen that. 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.480 I was just like, it don't exist to me anymore, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.760 anything pre pandemic, don't exist to me anymore. I handled 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.679 my business. I realized that was the top I can 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.320 admit and I take full accountability of. I didn't know 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.240 how to separate the artists from the from the human, 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:57.000 so the person from the from the person, so meaning yourself, yes, 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.080 so little more, there's little more, and then Cynthia, there's not. Yeah, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.639 And there was a time where I think that they 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.720 messed together and that I should have never allowed that 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.920 to happen. Um. I just watched Mary J Blige on 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.080 My Friends show The Breakfast Club. Mary J Blige said 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.600 for years she didn't know her worth, she didn't feel 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.240 worth it, So how can it hasn't ever been a 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.320 time where you felt like that, like really, so you 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:24.879 could be on the cloud, you could be getting all 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.119 this money, all these shows coming things, and everything is 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.480 running up, but then you sit back and you're just like, 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.000 I can really be just trying to give me anything, 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.679 And something like that recently happened. I think those are 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.240 tests because then it's just like it comes to say, 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:38.720 let me see if we can still get you and 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:40.440 I'd be like, nah, I used to didn't say no. 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:42.919 I literally used to pop up to everything and oh, 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.000 you know someone still having the part. I'm outside your 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.119 someone so much you're singing this. I'm gonna send the vocals. 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.600 But then I realized, wait, I said the vocals back 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.000 that same day. Why it is taking them so longer? Yeah, 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:53.760 we're going a different direction. I'll be like, man, you 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.760 and your direction. You feel me so? But then I 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.840 realized I was literally taking things per snoop and my 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.159 team literally broke down to me. That was just like, yo, 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.600 this is business. Stop taking this so personal. So once 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.199 I separated those two, that's what I know. It's up 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.840 from here on. Now, Okay, we're gonna jump in a 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:13.440 quick time and slim. You're gonna do it. We're gonna 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:27.200 do it it music. I'm just clapping this. This this 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.720 is good, all right? All right? So this quick time 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.520 and slim, it's called obviously it's cool, quick slip slap. 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.320 All of this is. We're gonna give you a multiple choice. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.040 It's just too you just pick one or the other. Now, 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.200 if you're going to pick both, you get a shot 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.880 ready already you want to pick both it's cool, it's cool. 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.920 You gotta take a shot. And we just figured out 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.520 recently if you say neither too, we gotta take a shot. 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:55.679 All right, but the good things, Yeah, I don't want 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.000 to take the shot if you pick one, but if 0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.200 you pick both, because you sincerely mean both, then you 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.000 gotta take a shot. But but the good thing about 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.040 it is we're gonna take a shot. We're not gonna leave. 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.760 I'm gonna be I feel like the number two is 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.000 going to be the one. Oh my god, see you, 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:21.680 I'm telling you, but you gotta chair invested that. We 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.960 gotta invest in that week I'm missing. You could blow 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.520 your face if you want. You know what, it's a 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:36.159 COVID band's never let's go babiries. So you ready racist 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:44.280 nas or j like far at no, no, no, just 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.080 whatever you wand just remember if you don't, if you 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:48.879 want to be politically back, you can take a shot. Now. 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:56.520 It's okay, okay, okay, you gotta give me a breakdad, 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.600 Like if it's the looks that everybody know not snakes 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:05.720 weren't to you in your far as business? Ja okay, alright, cool, alright, 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:21.720 is freaking a job or fifty as far as what Okay, ship, 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:26.639 I wasn't ready for that, all right, fab or Jada kiss? Okay, 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:35.280 what's that calling? I know, mel Melah, what's It's the 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:41.080 same thing. It just depends on the engineer, Melodon, Missy 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:47.440 or Trina take a shot. No, I would say Missy 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:51.560 because Trina would say Missy too, because Missy like helped 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.679 a lot of us. She literally so journal truth doesn't 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.639 his motherfucker? Okay, that's fire um Beyonce at least the 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:03.800 keys Beyonce. Okay, uh ninety I mean nineties hip hip 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.080 hop times two thousands hip hop? Wait? What's the two 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.840 thousand hip hop? Because honestly, that's the cut off was 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.959 about two thousand and three when it started again shaky 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.760 because if we talk about em C like I'm I'm 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:23.560 a rocket two thousand five, then I say, because I 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.639 didn't listen to the eighties, that hip hop hipot and 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.080 the hibvot that really wasn't my my twist. So I 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.159 would say, like when m C l D Nice and 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:35.960 like when yeah, nineties and nineties to now, alright, cool, 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.960 you you got these two. You gotta take a shot 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:44.400 for New York or bottom are I love New York 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.159 just different. Ok, you gotta take a shot for this one. 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:53.560 Michael Jackson or Prince like say, you have to be 0:27:53.720 --> 0:28:01.800 more specific. I'll just take a shot. But I would 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:06.680 say Michael, yeah, because Michael used to like he wanted 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.480 to do this side. He always did up to stand 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.600 like Chris got something his ass out to stand out. 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.000 He did. But they both go out to the point 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.720 where they were telling us who was going down, and 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.800 then soon after they were telling us what the real was. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.800 They were. They were more conscious than the brothers with 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.440 the beads. You think about it when you're thinking about it, 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.920 that they be superwoken. Yeah, you need to go to sleep. Yeah, 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:35.040 it was smart. Was Michael was telling us Earl everybody's catalogs. Yeah, 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.080 and they was like, oh, you can't do this. He 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.800 was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna buy your whole life. 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.880 He bought the Beatles cattle and the Elephant Man's balls. 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:43.760 How do you even know there was for damn sale? 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:50.800 How Like it wasn't no Google like elephant man balls 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:56.600 or balls? What is that man? He had? He died 0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.680 in the Elephant Elephant Man in real life and Michael 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.080 Carnival dude, Yeah, they said he bought it was at 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.520 the house. What was it work? I'm sure he had more. 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.960 I don't know. Probably he probably got ship my old 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:16.200 wing like that was the one that came to was like, Michael, 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.040 so we know you did thriller and we're just going 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.320 over the royalties for that. But they have the elephant 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:26.080 man balls will sell you. Think about that conversation period. Okay, 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.880 I show Chris Brown Chris only because I threw that 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.480 money and Usha said that about the Auto two and 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.280 then used it like, oh so after I got to 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:41.520 be so after he told he paying that note thens 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.680 right here after he told he paying that he ruined music, 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.040 I should use the old truth for real. This is fact. 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.160 No one thing about Twitter and social media. They're pull 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.320 the receipts and so they was like, wait a minute, 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.520 this you. That's when they do that. This you and 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.720 oh my god, when he did let me let Me 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.120 Love You down, that's all Auto too. But you never 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.400 know what the engine's using on your vocals anyway. The 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.960 only people that's honestly flawless. This is rare. But when 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.400 you know, when you know, yeah, that record, that was 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:16.320 definitely he knew what it was. Okay, radio or podcasts. 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.640 Podcast Yeah, because radio is so political and they'd be camping. 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:22.960 I think radio used to be hiring me just so 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.240 they can fire me to say that. They because I 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.920 really used to be doing nothing. We're gonna get into that. 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:32.040 We're gonna get into that. Okay, Farrell, Kanye, oh my god, 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.800 give me a shot. Because Kanye is a master, but 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.640 Farrell's a genius. He's got to explain yourself. Don't worry 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:50.160 about Oh my god, let me drink some water. Damn, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.800 you look a little. I'm gonna do a half cut 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.240 of me. That's some of watermelon. They're gonna have to 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:05.640 send me a pack that you don't go for it. 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.719 You're gonna hear right now, Okay, hold on all right, 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:22.920 DMX or Tupac like it's certain it's certainly yeah, because 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.400 X had had an impact because I knew him in 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.240 real life, so he was definitely a vibe and you 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.960 could his presence is still felt. And even though I 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.600 worked with Pop but never met him in real life posthumus, 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.320 I got it was just like I literally started getting 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:43.320 tattoos because I loved Tupac worked when we did shows again, 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:49.480 just never met him. I did he did. Yeah, he 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.400 has like yo, if you ever get the chance to 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.720 go to his house and like he has videos and 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.800 footage before all that was like like really the way 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.800 and I used to watch videos like he would have 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.920 like videos and Nate everywhere out there golfing like like 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.480 he was like filming people before it was cool. And 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.320 he has documentary worthy footage of stuff and you just 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.200 sit there and watching like dag, like what made you 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:24.040 think of this? He's a freaking genius. Respect a loyal respect. Okay, 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.480 I respect that, uh, Cardi b or Nicki Minad Nicki 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:35.160 that personal No, nothing personal, nothing at all. But like 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:40.000 if you like that's almost like saying because Nikki blazes 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.600 the trail. She's she's a legend. She's been out like 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.960 when you giving like how many like she's been in 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.920 the game, and she's she's been through things and we 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.800 got to see it and she she set a tone, 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:56.280 she set a standard. She go, she all go. So 0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.360 I get it. It's honestly totally different. You've been both artists, 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.120 nick and Cardi. Yeah, okay, yes, it's nicer to you. 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.480 Everybody's real cool with me anyway, Nobody ever really like 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.240 I met Cardi when she was still doing Love of 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.240 Hip Hop. So I was doing radio that and she 0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.640 was like we was doing at the time. I mean 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.840 not Baltimore because we was Baltimore. It was between we 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.440 did Baltimore and I did d C. So at that 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.800 time I think I was at k yes, okay, yeah, 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:31.280 all right, um, major independent indie. But that's only because 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.560 I was major before. So now what I would say, 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.959 go major, learn the games, and go indie. I can 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.120 get it with that, so I don't have to take 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:49.800 no shot. Oh God Jesus like em. Like. The reason 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.320 being because when I was in high school, I used 0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.480 to think I was like so bad. So once I 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.240 met I was like yeo. I literally told I wanted 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.640 to be you so bad. And the love song when 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:04.160 you say you love me it don't you've been thinking 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.600 to egantistical and just work. But what you say, I 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.360 take none of this seriously and that's when we stipp 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.919 the right out the world. You couldn't google it. So yeah, 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.600 like empt like that's honestly one of my biggest this one. 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.719 I don't know this is up in the end, all right, 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:31.719 Kim or Foxy, honestly hold your shot. I'm gonna take 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.319 it anyway. Yeah, because I'm a person, I go by 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:42.920 my own opinion, and I would. I would, honestly, I'm 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.800 gonna take my shot because I'm gonna say both because 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.360 had it not been for them, there would not be 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.200 a lot of females that are doing with it. Like 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:57.200 what Kim did, the crouching posted people. Oh my god, Yeah, 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.239 she broke down barriers. That was that was like there 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.239 was a no no back then, like, oh my god, 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.200 you're trying to do She broke down barriers when she 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.160 had her booball at the MTV Awards Mesa Stalda. Oh 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.160 my god. This is course a controversy. It's always controversial 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.160 when a black woman does it, but it's so chic 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.600 and cool and acceptable when other races do it. So 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.480 she broke down racial barriers that we wasn't doing. Foxy 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.600 was spitting like a nigger when she came out. Girls 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.480 wasn't spitting like that. Like I go back and listen 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.560 to her over she was going to win. So I 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.120 respect that she was in high school. Goddamnken for that, 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:43.640 God damn South. So you gotta respect it. Let's tell 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.200 us something right must be admitted in the game, right. 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.640 I had Tyler Quality stand here. I was sitting the 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.400 same chair that you're sitting in. Ty Live said to 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.200 me one time, he said, sometimes we're male privileged, And 0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.760 I had never heard of that. He's had male privileged 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.880 and he said, mal, well, basically what male privileges we 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.799 don't understand sometimes what the sisters go through. We don't 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.320 understand what women go through and hip hop and the 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.359 music business and entertainment period. So can you shot something 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.200 light on people? Like, let's just say we're just coming 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:16.920 under a rock. We don't know nothing. What are some 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.839 of the things that you're gonna have to face as 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.160 a female in this entertainment. First of all, if I 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.120 would have came here and I had a makeup on, 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.200 it's just anything. If I would have came here, my 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.719 nails wasn't done, or at least dress night. This just 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.760 wore anything, really like, so it's a standard. And honestly, 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.960 I just think that literally wore anything today, literally literally 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:48.799 literally literally did that. So I'm sorry, holy ship y'all, 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.399 but really, women, we as a as a black woman, 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.600 So you mean to tell me you judged all day 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.640 like you can't go to if you can't go to 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.160 Dwayne Weed without Well, thank god for the mass mandate, 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.080 because if we don't have to wear masks, they would 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.720 expect you to wear a full beat and be slain 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.360 and snatched. The whole pandemic like in the airport, how 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.000 they made the whole bonnet controversy. That's the wind rags 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.680 all the time. It's not for a female, do rag? 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.120 You mean? Sometimes I run out with my bond and 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:21.719 I'll be like, oh my god, I forgot, but I 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.719 don't want my edges to be laid. Like literally before 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.440 I pulled up, I took my star for because I'm like, 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.320 if I go in there with this one, if somebody 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.360 sneak a picture, they go out this a bit just anything. 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.440 So people just say whatever they want about females. Males 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.640 have the privilege they don't have to go to sound 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:43.080 check I'm pretty, and they're not allowed to. Like now 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.319 it's a standard where you know a lot of people 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.680 they want to walk around bust down from the risk 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.120 to the to the to the ripped up like now 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:54.640 everybody want to look esthetically, you know. Correct for women, 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.800 if you just had a baby, they expect you to 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.680 day because us there are certain people just like, damn, 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.920 how she have a baby and she don't even look 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.360 like it. Let you come out and have a baby 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.080 and a year later your body is still holding onto 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.239 that weight or that stressing, that postpartum and you have 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:16.400 a breakdown. This crazy everything will be held against you 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.400 as a female in this industry. And I can attest 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.320 to that because I've I've dealt with it. I have 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.759 social media. I ever got on your your nerves where 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.080 it's like you didn't want to, you didn't want to. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.919 Is there any like a room whatever spread through social 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.520 media that wasn't true that got to you. I used 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.120 to I used to realize that I would react to everything. 0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.440 I think. It's my Napoleon comparens on what they gotta do. 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:46.399 Is I accept all? And I think my service like yeah, 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.480 because I know what I'm sure. I always know that 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.319 my personality has to be big. So when I enter 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.040 the room, I'm just like my whole way is T'm 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.840 gonna get out this motherfucker. And I have like a 0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.000 you know, like you have a walk in someplace, you'd 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:00.399 be like, I don't know what the vibe gonna give. 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.759 I already knew what it's gonna give it head like family. 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.160 But there's places I go I'm like like, like what 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:08.719 is given? So I don't know what I'm gonna have 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:14.000 to do with sometimes to be higher places, but you 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.200 don't know who y'all lying you. This is real, like 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.479 people trying to get you there just so they could claim, 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.320 or they'll pay you to come somewhere just to be 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.960 on some bullshit or they're paying, they're just like, yeah, 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.440 we're gonna keep on pushing it back, like not the fun. 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.880 I have an O C D complex as well. It's 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.239 like if I'm late, I literally have a mental break 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.080 that they'd like, calm the funk dead, like stop acting 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.680 like that. But I realized I've learned how to overcome 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.920 some of my insecurities what they call them. But I 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:39.919 just like, no, it's just certain things that I've dealt 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.719 with all my life. So it's just like scorp that 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:50.080 novem me pup draking and people people think that we're weird. 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.799 We're just missundersmelling you come out all right, you don't 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.759 like noc is. I just feel that everybody wants to 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.040 be a Scorpio because we think four people. So I've 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.920 never got into anything or seeing anything on the internet. 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.239 They're one things that I've seen and I'm just like, 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.160 I don't even go with that person no more deal 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.200 with them. So it'd be all something. I'll be a 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.600 people like, yeah, well what about that time. I'm like this, 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.320 that was two years ago? You still thinking about I 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.240 don't had a whole another I have a whole another 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.000 life now, like, and I know that people love to 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.759 live in the past, but they don't want I don't 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.440 live there no more. So if you're still there, then 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.200 you know I'm not there anymore. So I used to 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.799 react to everything. People would say something. I'd be like, bitch, 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.879 we'll pull up sinnaty, we hunt you damn. And that's 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.759 weird because you say that to people. Yeah, yeah, you 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.800 gotta stop that. Yeah, I was wilding out, but honestly 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.400 that's when I was get high. So you mean, so 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.080 you telling me there should be people on Twitter. I'm 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:53.239 assuming Twitter slash greatest place on Earth because like you 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.440 can use it for the whole school on there. It 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.440 was this one girl said something and I because that 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:04.239 I come from jokes like yeah, and then the whole 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.080 school jumping, and I was just like yeah, but look 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:07.759 at this bitch that go to your school. I just 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.600 kept on pulling that one thing I've learned, it's like 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.160 when you're getting it. I'm around all comedians a lot 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.759 from Cat Williams, like just to certain people, so it's 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.440 like that's all we do is joke. But I realized 0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.200 that people can't take a joke and those people they 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.440 don't know what. Let me just tell you, you're also petty. 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.480 I am, yeah, because I'm a petty president and you 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:32.120 described he just cribed a lot. But I've learned, so 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.320 you so yeah, what y'all used to call it jonah 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:39.080 joking cracking snap. Yeah, so we're snapped. So I'm thinking that, oh, 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.640 if they follow me, they know what I'm giving. They 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.799 know with vibal on. So when I realized people are 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.719 getting offendsed like why would you say that? And I 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.360 was just like damn, like they was in college. I 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.040 don't never best with nobody kids. I don't play with 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.759 people kids. I don't even play with my own Like 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.560 it's your certain levels. You know what I'm saying. But 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.000 if you're on the internet and you come for me 0:41:58.120 --> 0:41:59.600 and you're a kid, I would like put your mother 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.160 on the phone because if my child did that, I'll 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.320 be like, don't you disrespect? Nor don't I'll play that 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.399 I don't like that. That's where I joined the line. 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.560 But you never know who's who behind that, but you 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.399 could pretty much tell when they try to say something 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.200 corn of your kid, you feel me. But I had 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.160 to get out of that because that's like a defense mechanism, 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.120 which I realized was a part of my complex because 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.320 I always felt that I had to defend myself. So 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.359 I realized, stop, you know, reacting to everything ignored. Why 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.000 do you can't you feel me? Because if you're pre 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:33.680 social media, you're gonna yeah. Because like we literally, me 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.719 and Missy who were sitting in the studio, we used 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.000 to joke like all day. That was as soon as 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.279 we get there, we're working between but it was just 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.680 like I don't know this, Nick ain't got don't know 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.319 goddamn so and it was just like just keep going 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.239 and going. We would joke for hours but begin to 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.440 to hit records time. So that's what I was used to. 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.800 So when I thought I was sharing my personality, I 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.759 realized people were taking it personal. And that's where you know, 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.080 you gotta learn how to join the line and realize 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:03.160 everybody and your friend and every but everything ain't funny noise. 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.759 You guys are far too fine. Was hot boys came? 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:14.000 Boys drop them before? Yes, it was like literally it 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.239 was like a domino effect. Okay, once we did hot 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.759 boys didn't put it on? Everything came Okay, So how 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.279 does how do you get this call for put it 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.400 on me? Is it seven? Will call you? Rules? Call you? Okay? 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:29.320 Described the score and I was in I was in Baltimore, 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.480 Baltsmore in North Carolina. I was somewhere and um, I 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.880 got the call. Was just like listen, his albums already done, 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.239 so I had already. Did I cry? You did? I 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.879 cried first? Yes, the album was done, the album was even. 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.080 Put It on Me came out first. Put It on 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.320 Me was already on the album. But the word and 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.040 the way that I got it was like, um, after 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:49.480 they did. I think the song. I think it was 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.520 every little thing that we did. I think it was 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.640 that one um the big records, and I think DMX 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.160 was coming out. It was like def jam used to 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.280 be a machine, but if you ain't selling soon amount, 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.359 they will drop or shield your ask. Because here's how 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.640 I kind of kind of thought of it, and um, 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.480 you tell me every little thing that you do was 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.800 out before Putty put it on me. Yeah, okay, I 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.800 didn't remember that. I can't tell you that. So that 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.960 was that was a single that was running around him 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:16.640 and Christine a million, But I guess it was what 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.440 it was. It was. It was like dying down and 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.880 so IRV was just like, yo, I need you for 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.440 this record. The record is done, but you know I 0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.520 need you to come up with that right track. Studio. 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.879 There was the engineer, I said, everybody get out. There 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.120 was the engineer. Young girl. You know what that you 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.480 know what it is? Young girl? A little girl. Yeah. 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:40.040 I went in there and I literally didn't write anything down. 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.400 I started. I would take me from the top and 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.879 I'm gonna work my way down. So I started off 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.080 with the intro and I sang it between and like 0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.560 I literally did it like homework. I started from the top. 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.320 See me to tell me when you walk in the studio, 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.640 they don't have this already laid off for you know. 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.120 They didn't tell me what to say, what this thing 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.800 that was for you? Yeah, a lot of people, but 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.000 that's how I work. Is just like play me something 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.560 or play me a beat. I'm gonna do what I 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.239 do and I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna kick everybody out 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:06.960 the room because when I'm in my space and then 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.080 in my zone and I know that it has to 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.480 be a hit record. Like Missy told me that too. 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.600 Don't let nobody in it because if you were working 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.680 as a school teacher, if you work at scientists, yeah 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.640 nobody can stand on. But some people are having a 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.320 million people in there. In my anxiety, I'd be like, 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.319 can y'all please get out? Because of my message? Why 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.360 I like that having a million people that I started 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.719 writing rhymes in jail, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.600 it's horrible. Um, yeah, so I was used to noise. 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.239 I was used to like you know, like what I 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.880 don't know if you ever seen Malcolm Max said he 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.200 used to sit down and look at the light and 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.120 he would read. I would do that too, but I 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:45.080 would read to write rhymes. But if you at jail 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.680 at night when you're writing rhymes, it's the most awkwardest 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.680 sounds every but it's chaos. So you're here, dude, oh 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.880 miss my mom, you're here due jerking off and you 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.920 like like like Yeah, it's just created so many It's 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.400 so so I got used to And first off, I 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:05.000 used to had the right rhymes to the radio station. 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.080 I didn't have beats in jail, so I would hear 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:09.879 a radio station, I would have to write my room 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.920 over over you. So I got so used and accustomed 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.919 to that that if I have peace and quiet, I'm 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:23.840 not at peace and quiet I needs because if I 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.520 hear something, I'm like, what's going on over there? I 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.560 can't focus. But I've learned how to focus, but I 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.440 don't want nobody in there because if I mess up, 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:31.800 I just feel like I'm shrinking. So it's just like, 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.239 you know, literally less, it's more for me, And it's 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.480 crazy it happens. You got the right track and corner 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.000 studio with the gold door because Guro had his own room. 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:48.759 So I literally had to do the song that day. 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.280 And then they scared me because they was just like, Okay, 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:55.239 well you can't leave yet because Leo's coming. Wow. And 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.920 I had met Leo previous to that because I was 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.440 gonna sign a def jam. Tina Davis and Kevin lost 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:08.000 Davis an empire right now, Kevin, now that you're still 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.960 on the elector at this time. Yeah, yeah, I was 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:13.840 on the lecture at that time. But um, I remember 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:15.719 Leo came in and he was standing there. He was 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.920 just like like, you know, he's he doesn't give you 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:25.719 expression or emotion. He's man of little to very little emotions. Yeah, 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:30.880 he was like, this is a like I'm just like 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:35.560 a man. That was it. And literally once we recorded 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.400 the record, IRV was ahead of the game whether dem 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.080 jam was gonna prove it, approve it or not. He 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.240 was already on the sky Tell texted all the p ds, 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.759 I'm about to send your record. So during mixing then 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:48.279 we sent it out, he was like, you ready to 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.320 be the funk out of here. I'm ready to be 0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:55.040 the fun. And after that the floodgates open. So Hot 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.160 Boys already introduced me to the world, put it on me, 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.960 gave me the world. So wow, that's that was hard. 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:07.839 So so at one point you and Jabu had some discrepancies, right, 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.320 is that before I cried? You know, you say I 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.040 cried was recorded prior to that. But I think I 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.200 seen you on one or six in part one, right, 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.520 and I think it was a G unit type of thing, 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:24.719 and I think you kind of I'm correct. Already sounds crazy. Um, 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.360 and I think what you accused him of was you 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.600 said that they didn't pay you for the record, so 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.200 they didn't pay you for the video or something like that. 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.000 I don't remember what it was for anything. Wait, wait 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.120 a minute, what not even publishing them? I later got 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:45.840 two point five later. Yeah, you have to fight for it. Yeah, okay, 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:48.160 but that's why God makes some mistakes. Yeah, so I 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.040 did the record. The album has already done. Put it 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.440 on me, I cry, Okay, I cried. It's cool that 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.160 I got my right percent. Put it on me once 0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:00.200 I'm taking off it had it had did some many 0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.000 weeks on one of six in Park at number one. 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.759 People were accusing because they said, def jam be paying 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.000 for number one, but they were like, no, we can't 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.320 fake a number one here because you have to actually 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:11.920 call in and they have to tally like with the 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.480 radio station when you get requests, you have to literally 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:15.960 keep a log of it or if you could get 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.239 in trouble. So we would number one so much that 0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.200 they had brought us on to retire the record, and 0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:25.400 I wasn't trying to time. I don't I think we 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.600 would have first soldier boy, we was the first to 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:35.120 retire record. That was when we retired. We literally had 0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.880 to retire because people were other labels and people were 0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.080 complaining like, how can we can never get number one? 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.640 Just like nobody wants your record to be y'all are 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:46.960 not getting that many calls. So I'm thinking I was thinking, like, oh, 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.000 this record been out, that check gonna be crazy. I'm 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.600 gonna have as Martin would say, whoo woo whoa woo 0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.239 who And when it wasn't a woo woo whoo whoa, 0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:58.839 I had began to inquire and I'm just like, well, 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.719 what's up. I didn't charge your fee for it. I 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:03.880 drove up there on my own dime, this and that. 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.279 But what I see now is is if you don't 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.759 handle your admit, that's when I'm really strict. And the label, well, 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.399 the independent label that went now the Faculty Music Group, 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.759 we're real ship, Like we'll have the song literally, I 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.120 have the song on my phone, but until we get 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.680 the clearances and the splits are agreed and all the 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.920 paperworkers right this record, You're kid the light of day 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.160 because you have to be. You never know what song 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.919 will be out of here or you know what I'm saying, 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.160 and I didn't handle my paperwork. But after that I 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.600 learned to like, oh, yeah, I'll sing on your record 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:36.719 and I won't even charge your feet, but i'll charge 0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.560 your higher percentage and higher points. So just get me 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.279 on the back end. That's what that means. She's just like, 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.320 what said the three points? Then it just give me 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:47.760 four maybe fact which the long periods. Yeah, yeah, because 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:49.840 a lot of times people are trying to give you 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:54.400 advance or artists stipend or you know, a fee, and 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.160 then they don't want to give you. Yeah, be like, no, 0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.160 I can't be bored. So what exactly happened that Park thing? 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.600 What was what was being said? If my memory sold 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:06.360 me correctly, I remember we were introducing a video and 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:09.319 at the end of whatever it was, I just said, 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.600 g unit, and I didn't know they was gonna keep it. 0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.800 I thought the mix was off, and they kept it, 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:19.000 and I realized, ship, here we go. But let me 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:23.400 just give the backstory. I didn't honestly know the premise 0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.600 of what was going on between them, but but you 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.400 didn't know it was at odds. I didn't know how 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:31.560 serious it was because before I did put it on 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.520 me before I did I cry. I did Somebody's Gonna 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.080 Die Tonight for the Romeo Must Die soundtrack with Dave 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:41.719 bing Bank. Dave bing b I n G. And he 0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.600 was he was with Murdered eight. So that's how I 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:47.320 got to be a Roman. So anytime that movie plays like, 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.520 I'm just like whoa. The admin was great on that, 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.719 so I thought everything would be right. But it was 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.359 something that happened at the video set and I remember see, 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.000 I know fifty before he did have to row and 0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.560 went went around that top. My whole boy, Barry, we 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:02.480 was right and songs in my whole voice. Uh. He 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.319 had a joint South in Jamaica States. So we wrote 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.880 a song called gay Yeah. Right by the way. It 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.200 used to be a white Castle right there. So we 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.239 was writing a song called fro Gayzy. And this was 0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.759 before he was shot, and so he'd be like, this 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.880 is my homie fifty yo, he's about to blow. He 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:19.400 got a better fact he just had did how to 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.400 rob it. I'm just like, yo, you dope. We did 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.000 songs on the spot and after that the situation happened, 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:29.000 and you know, I wasn't never involved. One thing I 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:32.439 realized is don't get in grown men's beef. Be a lady. 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.000 I knew that enough, so when stuff was happening, I'm thinking, oh, 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.200 that's just industry stuff. Ain't nothing gonna happen, but it 0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.080 was real. So I had inserted myself and something that 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:43.160 I had really no business and I said something I 0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:46.040 think on Hot ninety seven one time that I used 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.160 to fill in for starring Buck Wild and I filled 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.320 in and I said something, I did three things you 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:55.239 should never do against uh. I think it was like 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.239 whatever it was I said, and the last thing was 0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:00.279 never ever put out a disc record against I think 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.600 it was somebody had tried to dis eminem and fifty 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.640 whatever it was. And I got a call from Mona 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.440 Scott and Chris Lidy and Sylvia Row was just like, 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.440 be a lady, don't join in the men's beause that 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.120 don't have nothing to do with you. And that from there, 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:14.839 I was just like, all right, bad because I thought 0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.759 it was, you know, industry beat that we labels are 0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:20.800 being cohoes, and be like, all right, it's gonna but 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.360 now we're getting get to a port where it's just like, 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.880 this is stuff that don't have nothing to do with 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.719 the industry and you don't have nothing to do with 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:37.200 you mind your damn business six super six. So I 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.239 still got some of the mom left. How thin and 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.160 J fix that because here you go, you got this 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:45.360 great relationship cry and then there's one or six and 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.680 Park thing happened. But what it was crazy, Like I 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.160 think what it was was before the one or six 0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.000 and Park things happened. I remember we was, I was 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.120 touring with them because you know, as an artist, sometimes 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.359 in the apartment your cutting you off. As an artist, 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.120 sometimes we don't know what the laby do and don't do, 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.560 like you know, I'm saying so like when I when 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:05.239 when I saw that, I immediately knew. I was like, 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:09.040 I don't think she unders she understands how busy he 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.080 is that he's not even paying attention. So once there 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.719 ever a conversation like you calling job prior to that 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:16.520 and saying, you know what, they didn't pay me on this, 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.680 you know, once I realized he didn't even know. Okay, 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:26.399 you know, and I realized that, but he even put 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.920 out a disk record on me and yeah, I did 0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:30.320 a who shot you? I was like, I did that? 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:34.080 Who shot you? Like? Yeah, I was I was saying 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.600 so crazy stuff because I used to really want to 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:38.759 be a rapper, but I just could say. So it 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.239 was just like, oh, y'all think you're gonna talk crazy 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.320 about me. You must not know my hand an orange jumper. 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.719 You know this is a piece from my ps. So 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.279 because didn't you'll do to the video on Baltomore, I cry, yeah, 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.920 we did that in Cherry Hill. That's like hood like 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.279 it was a shootouts soon as we left, but like 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.719 a fourteen year walking We got y'all like, wait, he 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.360 has a gun? God, whose kid is this? You know 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:05.759 what I'm saying. But that's when I was just like 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.600 Baltimore really had my back. But before that, it was 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.240 just like I'm just running around hyped up doing shows. 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.200 And I was like, wait, I mean, I know you're 0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.840 paying for flight in the hotel, but put them. But 0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.120 what I'm gonna tell you this, nobody ever knew this. 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:24.640 They would saying that they were just on promo. So me, 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:26.759 promo is just like, okay, I'm out promoting my single. 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.040 We're not getting paid, We're just getting travel stipment just 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:36.879 by accident. Um booking agent sent me his deposit by accident. Wait, okay, 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:42.680 who are you talking about again. Okay. So obviously when 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:44.560 they're saying you're on promo, it's not y'all saying you 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:49.360 on promo. Promo continued, that's what they were telling my management. 0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.000 So one day I get a FedEx and I opened 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:53.800 it up and the joke was for like it was 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:57.520 was it was advanced for like four shows, so it's 0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.480 like fifty, so that means he was getting twenty five 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.480 the show out and this is a check or this 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:07.080 is okay. So I'm getting phone calls and they're like, hey, 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.120 I think we know I called them, and I'm just like, uh, 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.239 I gotta check here, but it's not to me what 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:13.920 y'all post is sent me something else because this is 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.400 fifty dollars advanced for four shows, and the show four 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.680 shows a hundred thousands. Where's my? Like, where's my? I 0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:24.520 called them, you're doing shows for free nine but your 0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:28.560 bus is taken care of, flights were taken care of hotel, 0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:30.880 and for d M. You said okay, yeah, but I 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:32.920 was singing two songs and I was performing my heart out. 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:37.600 So the agency called me back and was just like, wow, 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.080 we've never had this mistake in all the time we've 0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:45.239 done bookings? Can you avoid it and send us a copy? 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.840 I avoided it and I sent them. It was like, 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.920 your honesty is what's gonna keep you in this industry. 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.120 And I was just like, let me call and see. 0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:57.200 So y'all are getting paid for shows. There ain't none 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.840 of your fucking business day And I'm just like, a 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.400 who's saying that's none of your business? I spoke to 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.200 I don't know who. At that time, I had a 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:08.879 different manager, so I'm just like it was like yeah, 0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:11.879 so then she speaks to whoever, and they just like, well, 0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:13.840 we had already had a show book that I remember. 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:15.279 I think we were in the Chicago at the labor 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:16.600 and I was like, well, y'all don't have to come 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.480 no more, say no more. One thing about me is 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.439 if I feel uninvited or you tell me, I ain't 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:23.680 gonna come to there no more, I ain't showing up 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:25.960 like I'm not gonna beg nobody. That's a scorpion on me. 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:28.440 I'm not begging you for ship, but I'll sleep outside 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.680 for I beg you to come inside. It's just certain things. 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.160 That's my that's my project. You're telling me. Someone from 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.720 murder Ache said well, that's what the management came back 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.680 and told me. It was like we were we were 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:39.400 in the middle of the Airport's like, well, y'all can 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.560 go home. But it wasn't my fault that y'all were 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.040 getting paid. We weren't told. So we were doing MTV 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:46.800 Spring Breaks, BT spring Blinks, doing all of these shows, 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.640 and I'm just like, damn, like, I'm thinking the bad 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.040 gonna run up. I still got bills. I still you know, 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:55.320 So at the end of the day, that's when it's 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.360 doing to me when Silver Roon said, these a lot 0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:01.240 of motherfucker's ain't your friend. So I stopped going on 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.840 the road, and then it was it was it was 0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.960 a hiatus between me and John talking because it went 0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.520 from us being like brother and sister too. You know what, 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:11.880 I'm just gonna just be brother and sister with the 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:14.800 people that I know that ain't never do nothing shady. 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:18.360 But then I later realized it you honestly don't know 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:22.320 who it is or who it was, but um, how 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:27.640 did we reconcile? I think, uh, we got a show together, 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:31.200 and it was just like, damn, like, you know what, 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:35.120 I saw his kids getting bigger, and I'm just like damn, 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.600 Like I was there when when all these kids and 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.640 my nephews and my kids were big, we want to 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.040 go with ya route? How did we let this industry 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:46.320 coming between that? My nephew literally he just turned like 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:47.720 I don't want to stay in your I want to 0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.520 go with y'all rule, and he would literally come get 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.560 my nephew so he could go chill with them. And 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:53.880 I'm like, oh damn, but you know they're they're smoking 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:58.400 merry reply. But it was just like, you know, how 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.520 did we let anything come between that? Like we was? 0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.960 We was, you know, we was tight. So I'm like, 0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:07.160 you know what, whatever I said, I apologize because I 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.680 really didn't know what was going on, And maybe you 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:13.160 don't know either. I'm almost sure I don't know. I've 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.320 never asked him, but I'm almost sure me knowing him, 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:22.840 he didn't know as an artist, Like as the artist, yeah, 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:27.400 was crazy. And then I realized that was having ecstasy 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.160 days days I was, and I was one of the 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.800 ecstasy hands. I was running around. So it was just like, Okay, 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.480 we're thinking people that are in position are gonna handle 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:39.520 our paperwork and do stuff. But just looking back, I 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:42.960 was just like for me and my soul for me 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:44.720 to have to put it at rest, because I don't 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:46.680 understand how somebody could beef all their life, like if 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.360 you want to take that to your grade and we 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.120 don't know what's gonna happen in the after life. If 0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:53.439 you have to literally stand before a law or God 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:55.680 or whoever you sir, and they say, the only thing 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:59.080 that's keeping you from having everlasting life or perfect peace 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:02.840 is because you're holding an art against somebody that really, 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:06.280 if your life, them or property ain't in danger anymore, 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.360 why are you mad at this person? It's just like, 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:11.720 you know what, it wasn't affecting none of my business 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:14.760 on my hits, I was affecting it. So I got 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:16.680 to the point where just like yo, I apologize because 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.800 I ain't made that ship I was. I was, I 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:22.160 was had, I was one of them days. It's my 1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:23.880 career could have been on that could have been anything. 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:26.800 And I was talking ship. But I'm honestly, I'm one 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:28.680 of the first R and B artists to talk ship 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.720 like I be talking to niggas. I don't know where 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:33.960 that came from, but I think it's my accomplice. I 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.720 really would talk ship to niggas. I'm gonna tell you something. 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.960 I was on the tour. I think with Job, I 1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:41.800 was gonna talk with Job, not I think with I 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:43.720 was gonna talk with Job. And one of the illiest 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:48.200 moments I've ever seen in my life was him looked 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.840 to the crowd, let's say, I want you all to 1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:55.800 say I cry, and then this crowd say you cry, 1:00:56.480 --> 1:01:00.200 and then this crowd said we cry, and then and 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.080 then he didn't even say, we're gonna say that part together. 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:10.280 And he came out there and he was like and 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:14.480 then he just went like this, and I said, I 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:20.680 need that ship are on the stadium. And I looked 1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:25.439 and I said, Holy motherfucking do you know how big? 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:30.760 Because I don't put it on me when he when 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:34.880 uh the end song? That where what? Or I don't 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:36.880 even have to when you have a hit record, you 1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:38.560 don't even have to sing it. What I do is like, 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.640 all right, we're just gonna go to this part and 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:42.520 y'all know what to do. And I literally stand it 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:44.360 and people sing it to the top of the loans 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:48.320 that it's an anthem or world. It's the best feeling 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:50.480 in the world. And that's what I realized. I had 1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:52.160 to let some ship go because when you know your 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.560 part is the one that people love, run with it 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:59.120 to this day. To this day, that's people people have 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:01.880 message me and we're like, turn out the record. DJ, 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:03.920 y'all ain't got little most part playing. I'm like, what 1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:06.000 y'all do? They was like, why the fund do a 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.920 part of or a version of putting on Me exists 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.240 without more? I'm like, well that was on the album. 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:15.360 They later strike it on the album. Yeah, but people 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.400 like I don't want to hear without you. So it's 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:19.520 just like I realized it was something in my voice 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.320 or that my gift made room for me that when 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:24.680 you hear a song without me on it, you don't 1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:26.160 want to hear it because it don't it don't make 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:32.800 you feel nothing. But we don't from you. When did 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.840 you film that video? App? And I think West Palm 1:02:35.920 --> 1:02:41.520 Beach or Florida. You're supposed Sami Miamiami. But I was 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:44.520 because I remember that whatever it was, I believe it 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:46.720 was West Palm Beach. I know that once the sun 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:49.400 goes down, the town shuts down. So they were like, 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:51.120 we gotta get this shot. Hip. It was like, we 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:54.480 gotta get this shot because it's like an all rich 1:02:55.680 --> 1:03:01.200 there's another side of well we wasn't that something? That's 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:03.600 what all the people they said, it's rich retirees. And 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:05.960 at six o'clock the city shuts down and you have 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:16.800 to be at your house or is your birthday? How 1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:20.520 when I when I when I always um be interviewed somebody, 1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:22.720 I go to Twitter because Twitter is like the most 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:24.960 evilest place on the planet, but it's also like the 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.360 most smartest place on the planet. For Twitter is And 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:30.560 when I said, anybody got questions for a little mode, 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:34.040 they said, how does she feel that? She basically put 1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:37.200 fabulous on? That's what they said. Yeah, everybody always asks 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:39.320 why why why? Why do they Why do they think that? 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.320 Do you think that? Well? I know that before we 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.880 did Superwoman, he was like all the mixtapes, but that 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:49.760 was his first radio record. Yeah, that was his firsts 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:51.680 over hit record. And he was also signed to a 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:53.600 lecture at that time too, because a little bit after 1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:57.880 wait a minute and it does the storm got the 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.320 deal or whatever, they labeled to a lecture, but he 1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:05.200 had clue had all the mixtapes a lock and because 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:07.440 it's a Superwoman to the remix career, because it was 1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:09.800 a Superwoman War one and that's what I went too. 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.080 I had did the Beatie Seagull beat and I can't 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:14.520 wait to see that battle anyone. We're talking about that 1:04:14.680 --> 1:04:27.360 later you might jumped out. Got to call him. I 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:29.000 had a drink to that because when that's what I 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:34.080 was like, Oh, it's uh yeah, beach like that's what 1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:41.680 super dues stop chill d I used Brian Michael Cox 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:44.880 did that beat, so I did you ain't got to 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:47.280 look up in the sky parts and Jamada Price like 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:49.840 this ship is a hit, but we sent it into 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:52.560 a lecturer and it was just like the song is 1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:58.479 too cocky. I'm like, I mean Superwoman part one because 1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:00.280 I was like basically saying, you ain't got to look 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:02.280 at these chicken heads. You ain't gonna look anywhere else. 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:04.120 There's a difference between me and these girls. And he 1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:06.200 was like, well, we don't want anybody to get offended 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:09.960 or think that you're taking shots to them. I was like, 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.240 I don't even know nobody in real life but Missy 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:14.440 Elliot and I'm not talking about her, like, are you 1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:19.960 kidding me? So um, I'm I did Supermoman Part two. 1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:23.560 I was in l A with Clue working on the 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:25.480 record because we had did songs with B two K 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:29.440 like Cluing Up, Cluing Durer produced. So you heard that 1:05:29.600 --> 1:05:33.720 young girl? We didn't. We did, uh someone a girl 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:36.280 artists that was on dream Works because they cut checks. 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:40.840 Her name is Canela Cox and we had Spielberg record 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:44.520 LABA and Dreino was cutting checks. He was from l a. 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:47.080 Hen Street'd be like, I want fifty thousand for a 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:49.520 song and then motherfucker, don't even come out. Hey, I 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:55.120 don't care day checks. We were doing the sing and 1:05:56.200 --> 1:05:58.000 we were doing the song and the session was over. 1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:00.240 There was two hours left, but Clue had to get 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:02.840 back to the East Coast for his Monday like mixtape 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:04.600 and I was selling and I was like, you got 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:07.000 we ain't wasting this two hours and we ain't just 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:08.760 sitting up here. So I was like, hey, play me 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:11.040 a beat. He played me the Superwoman beat. He was 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:12.600 playing beats. He was like, I think you should do 1:06:12.680 --> 1:06:14.560 something like this, and I was like, I don't like 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.400 when people tell me what you do. This is Clue. 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:19.880 He's playing beats. So he plays a beat and it 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:23.840 was just and I was like, I want that because 1:06:23.880 --> 1:06:26.240 that's so that sound is so annoying. I want to 1:06:26.240 --> 1:06:28.280 annoy people. But when I put my vocals over it, 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.200 that she's gonna go out. He was like, I can't 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:31.720 give you that beat, sist that's for m O p 1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:35.480 wa wa w Did MP have a version of it 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:40.920 already day beat because way too fastn't do a remix 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:45.160 already with And I was like, how about some wrong? 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:48.760 This is so great, This is stuff people would never 1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:55.680 know any more Woman Superwoman, far too original beat for 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:59.480 that song was made for them for m O p 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:03.800 Oh you killed like you said, you killed this so much, 1:07:03.800 --> 1:07:05.800 I can't even think about. And trust me, m O 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:08.440 p I'm a big Emo PI fan, but now that 1:07:08.720 --> 1:07:13.720 I hear what you did too, I can't even was 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:19.040 crazy it was. It was literally just and the beat 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:24.040 was dope, dope what I sang over soda every day. 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:26.760 I sang that there was no chords and no key, 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:29.120 so I had to sing that. When I told him, 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:30.760 I said, drop the music, tell me how many beats 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:33.240 per minutes? So I duro edit it out, but I 1:07:33.280 --> 1:07:35.200 would have to. I was like, ever every day I 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:37.520 was snapping my fingers singing that, and I had to 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:41.120 stack my vocals so we later had some producers, not producers. 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:45.360 Some musicians come in and play the bridge, the strings 1:07:45.760 --> 1:07:50.320 and then act those keys are So if you hear 1:07:50.360 --> 1:07:52.840 the original beat to when it became the TV track, 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:56.680 you'll be like you could tell I was around Quincy 1:07:56.800 --> 1:08:02.720 Jones and them because I've seen before. But when the 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.520 way from your clause, No, but it was just like 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:07.320 it was for m O P. So I did the 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:10.320 song and I sent it to Clue. We had the 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:17.599 Delta dashes. This was the craziest when you and Fab 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:21.559 on there. Okay, So the thing is was with Fab, 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:25.719 I'm always listening. I used to be a mixtape head, 1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:28.280 and Clues like, who do you want to get it? 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:30.479 Because by that time I had worked with Missy job J. 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:32.760 Everybody knew my name. Who you want to get on it? 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:36.840 I was like I could have had I could have 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:38.880 had m Op on it or anybody you know. And 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:41.320 I was with a lecture, so it was it could 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:43.800 have been a check, but my budget was basically tapped out, 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:46.479 which means that I still had money on the back end, 1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:47.800 but I didn't want to use all the money because 1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:55.720 I knew they were yet by that. But it was 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:58.240 just like listen once we put us out. Yeah, I 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:01.040 know they're gonna be like I knowing mixing is gonna 1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:03.439 be gonna absorbed that. So I know jay Z is 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:06.080 gonna chrge a hundred thousand dollars, Mrs gonna trge to 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:10.280 me to dollars and was gonna try me far disrespect 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:13.160 for taking their record. So they already knew that they 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:18.000 had that record. Well I don't find out now. So 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.400 um Clue was like, so, who you want to get 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:21.680 on the record. I think it would be dope with 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:24.040 a rap. I said, the boarder speller's name or all 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:27.439 your records. He was like Spins. I'm like yeah, I'm 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:30.200 like he's dope. He was like, oh, that's easy. Text 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:35.120 him and bab and he was with Um. He wasn't 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:39.120 with he was with Webb and Chayo. Him and Webb 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:42.080 came to the studio with yellow dude rags or chicken 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.320 boxes and the sky tell pages. So I'm thinking, like 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:45.880 he's gonna come in there being this business. So I 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.439 don't know what chicken boxes is chicken like, it comes 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:52.320 in a box with chicken, the French fries. I want 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:56.200 real chicken boxing. They came in there with food me 1:09:56.360 --> 1:10:01.960 thinking in the mi and said, Rabbit Spelling's day. I'm 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:03.720 think he's gonna coming there with all these slick rick 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:07.040 jewelry's on and wailing out. He came in with just him, 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:12.880 yellow do rags and chicken and I believe maybe Street 1:10:12.920 --> 1:10:14.800 Fair kid. It was like, I'm just like, oh yeah, 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.080 don't come here with a hundred people. So I'm just like, 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:18.760 so you're ready to do your podcasts, I'm gonna go. 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.719 I'm gonna let you do your thing. He's like, I'm ready, Okay, 1:10:21.840 --> 1:10:23.840 let me move out your way. So we were at 1:10:23.960 --> 1:10:26.840 right track. I leave out. So he comes back like 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.160 a couple of minutes later, so I'm like, you're finished. 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:31.280 He's like yeah, so before we push, but I hope 1:10:31.280 --> 1:10:32.880 you don't mind. I did a little something in the intro, 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:35.920 and I did something at that Oh, so you're just 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:39.880 working above and beyond. So soon as I heard something 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:42.720 like he was like little oh, I was like, oh 1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:46.000 my god. He spelt my name after so he was like, 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:47.920 I guess I ain't got As soon as I heard 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:50.960 his voice and what he said, I was like, you've 1:10:51.040 --> 1:10:54.000 got to be I guess I ain't got no reason. 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:56.240 The men go around. I found a superwoman that could 1:10:56.280 --> 1:10:58.559 leave from the truck in a single bound. Mommy, I'm 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:00.880 trying to bling you down. Something was about shades on 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:03.200 the kids when I bring you and she put her 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:05.080 lips on the weeds, still put it to work her 1:11:05.120 --> 1:11:07.200 tongue and made me come faster than the speed and 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:09.880 bullet my love stronger than our locomotive. But only for 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:20.000 that so that where he's like, oh, here go to 1:11:20.000 --> 1:11:21.639 the impart. So I'm like, where does it coming? Then 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:25.240 after the bridge and he was like, the superwoman might 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:27.320 have saved my day to KOs that would have gave 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:29.600 some play. Now he wouldn't even wave that way. I 1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:32.160 understand why the mother she's behaved that way. They see 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:34.120 the icy yes in your chest and grave and great 1:11:34.280 --> 1:11:36.559 be whipped the mike because usually with them things he type, 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:39.040 but only greeny keep from me is Krypton knit the 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:41.280 way that blew a red fitting on your hips. So right, 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:49.519 I'd be like damn. I was like where wat excited, 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.400 like how did you? I didn't even have to say, well, 1:11:52.439 --> 1:11:53.840 maybe you should tighten it up, and I was like 1:11:53.920 --> 1:11:56.000 we added here a lecture. Didn't want to put out 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.040 the record because they didn't feel like nobody knew who 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:00.559 he was, so clue played on his mixtape, and then 1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:02.880 after well the Money Night Makes tape on High ninety seven, 1:12:03.160 --> 1:12:05.000 he just kept on going up to and after that 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:07.080 there was oh my god, this record is a smash. 1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:10.720 So I literally saw him go from them. We had 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:20.720 a basically one commercial commercial because it went from what 1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:24.559 was jar Roule calling me? I swear to god, who 1:12:25.520 --> 1:12:35.280 I did not answer the phone? Jar hold a little 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:45.240 more chilling man just up here talking about the good 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:47.519 old days. Had we mirrod him back from you know 1:12:47.520 --> 1:12:49.519 what I'm saying, There was a time where we went 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:51.320 from the top and then we went through something. But 1:12:51.720 --> 1:12:53.000 you know what I'm saying, it got to the point 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:55.320 where we get older and you get wise and you 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:58.960 realize I took accountability and apologize for just jumping in 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.880 something that ain't have nothing to do with me. I 1:13:02.000 --> 1:13:06.760 love you well, you know what it is. We got 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:13.160 a dream chance moment won two three. Oh you know 1:13:13.400 --> 1:13:15.439 you know Norri sup tides, I'll be getting round of 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:19.400 the shopper. Ain't got really nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:22.760 we always do, man, we always do. Well. That's there's 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:25.960 a part of being our job. Our job is consistent, fucker. 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:30.720 You know what I mean. I was calling you, hey man, 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:33.439 hey man, I'm going this is when I ain't up 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:41.280 on you right now. I'm gonna hit you back it 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:51.840 just by the way. We're gonna address the beach later. 1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:56.960 But let's can pretend you on so, um where was you? 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:01.240 Boom now superwoman? First of the mercial record for so 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:04.479 so Yeah, the first commercial record for five and you 1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:05.880 know I was just playing them around but put them on. 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:08.160 But a lot of people say that because um, as 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:11.120 I tweeted out today, UM, I wish I do with 1:14:11.640 --> 1:14:13.479 every guest, especially guests that I want to know a 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:15.960 little bit more about. I'll say, yo, you got a question, 1:14:16.240 --> 1:14:18.240 question too, and I sweeter to god, I can show 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:20.880 you on my Twitter Like it was like if I 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:24.280 had fifty seven messages, at least thirty of them was 1:14:24.320 --> 1:14:27.720 like yo, hotest little more field. Um that that she 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:31.519 was responsible for the world noticing Fab? Is that something that, Um, 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:34.200 your fab ever have a discrepancy? Like you ever tried 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.280 to get him back on the record or and it 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.720 wasn't no, no, not, because it's like it's never been 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:43.160 a discrepancy. And he'll even say he said in interviews, 1:14:43.200 --> 1:14:45.360 like Moe gave me a chance, you know what I'm saying, 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.519 and then that opened the door. He's done records with 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:51.080 m JB J. Low, everybody, like he's worked with everybody, 1:14:51.240 --> 1:14:55.040 and they opened the door. So it's just like Missy 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:58.080 did that for me. So the way you have longevity 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:00.439 in this industry is you put somebody in position. You 1:15:00.560 --> 1:15:02.479 keep putting people in a position. So because because it 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:04.960 didn't stop there, so it's like now a lot of 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:07.160 the young artists that are coming back. Yeah, so you 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:09.400 do good, good gonna come back. So whatever you put 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:11.840 in the atmosphere is gonna gonna return. So it just 1:15:11.960 --> 1:15:15.439 didn't stop there. But Missy did that for me. But 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:20.960 there's a lot of times I would say, but basically, 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:23.360 well we did after that, we did Can't let You 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:26.479 go forever, Like we have so many records together, it's 1:15:26.520 --> 1:15:30.040 like we have a whole I honestly know that we 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:35.280 wanted to do like a like a like a collaborative album, 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:37.760 and I know he was like, def Jam wasn't with it. 1:15:37.920 --> 1:15:41.720 I was like, man, let's do it ourselves. But now 1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:45.240 we have the opportunity to have the opportunity to do it. Yeah, 1:15:45.320 --> 1:15:47.040 so it's just like it is what it is, but 1:15:47.880 --> 1:15:50.840 those fans are from the album. Just literally set le 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:55.400 brated twenty years on June. So twenty years honestly having 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:57.640 my first album out and he was a part of that. 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:05.200 We got two decades congratulating. Here's something I do want 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:06.920 to ask you, right because when we googled and we 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:10.200 kept googling, we didn't expect that you don't have a 1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:14.400 song with John Rule with me on my album? Is 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:18.720 that that is true? Yeah? Yeah, I think after like 1:16:18.880 --> 1:16:22.040 the whatever happened with the fallout, we never but we 1:16:22.280 --> 1:16:25.240 we have records that never were released. Okay, so it 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:28.639 was like, yeah, we had records that were never released 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:32.200 or I think it was just because he was honestly 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:35.400 the most dominant artist and they there was a time 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:37.880 when Murder Inc. Was a machine, like you was not 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:42.760 permeating their goals. Yeah, it was that. So now once 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:46.519 I'm indeed I have that like when you can't you 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:49.560 can't get in, you can't get in. There was a 1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:57.760 stop spelling bees and everything. So it's just like, I know, 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:02.479 you couldn't you couldn't cut through. They had a run. 1:17:03.720 --> 1:17:06.479 You wasn't putting you wasn't cutting through like Earth had 1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:09.000 that ship or a lot Deaf Jam had that ship 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:10.600 on a lock. So it's just like, if you was 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:14.439 trying to do a female and a male song, you wasn't. 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:16.120 If he put out someone a female in the male, 1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:19.200 you wasn't. You wasn't beating him. He mastered the game. 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:22.280 He had all the PDS names and numbers in his phone, 1:17:22.280 --> 1:17:24.000 and he made them feel important because he would be 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:26.120 like here going to record the label because they're gonna 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:28.240 move that. They paced, So it was just like he 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:31.240 was always ahead of the game. So whenever their declination 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:33.720 came in at where you know, things started, you know, 1:17:33.840 --> 1:17:35.800 falling apart, I don't. That doesn't have anything to do 1:17:35.840 --> 1:17:36.920 with me because at the end of the day, I 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.560 was never signed to murder any So it's just like 1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:41.320 you know that, but you are right, I don't have 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:45.080 any songs with him, actually want I just think that 1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:47.400 once me and Fab started doing records together, just like 1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:50.080 a missing him at certain people's chemistry that even though 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:51.960 you could have hits with other people, it's just certain 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:58.800 people's chemistry that surpassed that. Because yeah, so um, now 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:04.960 we got this music is being handled. But now you 1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:07.720 do love a hip hop first, right before before you 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:14.920 get electorate, you did something ODB. Yeah whoa oh man, 1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:18.559 rest in peace to him. So I did good Morning Heartache. 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:21.720 We made that and he specifically told Sylvia because he 1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:25.960 had a relationship with Sylvia that was uh like they 1:18:26.120 --> 1:18:28.600 was like homies. So he was like, I want to 1:18:28.640 --> 1:18:31.559 get that girl on the record, the girl that he's 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:34.320 singing stuff. So I'm thinking, like, this is od B 1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:37.400 because he's a singer inside like you can tell he 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:40.599 was Yeah, but you're coming from growing up watching Wu 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:42.960 Tang and you see O d B. You thinking that, 1:18:43.200 --> 1:18:45.920 oh my god. Like honestly was afraid to go to 1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:47.519 the session because I'm like, I hope you don't be 1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:50.200 in there acting weird because od B respecting ship out 1:18:50.240 --> 1:18:53.040 you like everybody's like if he's if you delete. I 1:18:53.200 --> 1:18:56.760 was in a the session and he said, do not rewind, 1:18:57.160 --> 1:19:00.320 delete or do do exactly what I told you to 1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:03.519 do because sometimes engineers get comfortable, and he started doing stuff. 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:05.720 He said, did you record. I've seen him walk out 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:07.600 of a session where they recorded over his vocal and 1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:10.280 he left. But he would have people bring his reels in. 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:14.519 They would be on in Dolly's and he'd be like, 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:17.400 go to track, go to real or Real number three 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:19.240 and they would find it. He would always come in 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:21.680 with the sessions with his reels. So we recorded that 1:19:21.760 --> 1:19:24.080 at the Hit Factory, and I was so scared of 1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:26.040 going there and sing where he was like, going there 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:28.320 and sing how you sing? Don't worry about what I 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.600 do or what anybody else has done before, you do 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:32.280 what you do. So I did good Morning, how they 1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:34.640 Can Sing? And he sat there, he was dancing in 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:37.280 front of the board like this, and I'm like, wow, 1:19:37.280 --> 1:19:38.920 I wonder if he likes it not and they was like, no, 1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:41.640 he loves it. And it made the album. So that 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:43.439 was actually a dream come true because I was will 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:50.760 Tang forever the world. I've I've never worked before, I don't. 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:53.080 I think that was a fear of mine because you 1:19:53.160 --> 1:19:56.080 know why, because people they fell just do like You're 1:19:56.160 --> 1:19:57.960 so like, well, what what what? They just think that 1:19:58.040 --> 1:19:59.800 he was the Neptune, but people didn't know that he 1:19:59.920 --> 1:20:02.599 was writing for s w V. So I was scared 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:05.000 back then, and I don't think my budget was healthy 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:08.799 enough for him. But we hosted a UM Hot ninety 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:12.080 seven flow like years ago for the Puerto Rican Day 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:15.599 Parade and we was on that. He was just like, yo, 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:18.479 you really can say. And then after that we just 1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:19.840 was cool. And every time I'm saying, I'm like, what 1:20:19.960 --> 1:20:21.479 do you be drinking? And what do you take? How 1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:25.040 do you keep looking? I was like, did you join 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:28.600 the Luminous? But he was just like, na, just a 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.200 favor over my life and just honestly after that, like 1:20:31.400 --> 1:20:34.920 he's just a cool individual. He never ages, he never 1:20:35.120 --> 1:20:45.560 liked yeah, yeah, I want so so boom. Now we 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:48.640 move on to the reality show. Oh yeah, so what 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:51.960 made you say? All right, cool, let me go to 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:54.640 reality from here? And then not only reality, but you 1:20:54.800 --> 1:20:56.560 went to New York, which is like going back to 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:58.960 your roots. It's like going back home a little bit, 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.160 well maybe even a lot of it, um going back home, 1:21:02.360 --> 1:21:04.680 but um, you know doing this? What made you do that? 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:06.560 Was it a Mona call? Because, like you said, it 1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:08.760 was it was violated as well. But I was rocking 1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:11.720 with Mona before violated because when she won't actually with 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:13.839 Missy like she was the one who said up everything, 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:17.080 so she we've just been rocking out since the beginning. 1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:19.880 But I had did R and B Divers before that, 1:21:20.000 --> 1:21:22.560 so I was realized that that music is changing and 1:21:23.479 --> 1:21:25.519 you might think you lit, but it's a whole new 1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:28.040 world out there. And reality TV was the way. So 1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:29.800 I did R and B Divs of l A and 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:32.280 then I got the call for Loving Hip Hop. Yeah, 1:21:32.360 --> 1:21:34.439 it was directly for Mona because it was just like, hey, 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:36.560 I see you know you're working on some stuff and 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:39.680 do you want to tell your story? And because you 1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:41.439 know people know you, this would be a great way 1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:44.920 to push with what you got going on. And this 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.800 is after you you have radio? Yeah, because I said 1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:50.559 I did radio my daughter b nineteen. I was pregnant 1:21:50.560 --> 1:21:52.439 with her when I did radio, So yeah, what made 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:55.160 you do radio? Like because most artists, whose artists do, 1:21:55.200 --> 1:21:58.160 want to just keep sticking to the artist. Yeah, artists 1:21:58.200 --> 1:22:00.200 and singing. So what made you say at one point 1:22:00.200 --> 1:22:02.760 you know what? Uh? And I imagine you did it 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:04.799 in your hometown at first, right, that was in Baltimore. 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.000 The You Mention was a program directed there. So when 1:22:08.000 --> 1:22:08.960 I was like, I want to do the show, I 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:13.160 used to watch Martin and I was like, yeah, I said, 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:17.040 they know me up in here. And then but I 1:22:17.160 --> 1:22:19.080 was pregnant at the time and that was that's with 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:22.320 my first daughter. And you know, in the industry back then, 1:22:22.360 --> 1:22:24.240 if you was pregnant, they didn't care, Like now you 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:26.400 could be pregnant, busting it wide open, have the baby 1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:28.840 come back to the show the next day. Yeah, you 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:31.120 because they didn't want you to be seen. So instead 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:33.519 of sitting at home, I always I can't sit still, 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:35.880 so I wanted something to do and they were like, well, 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:37.640 do you have an air check? I'm like, what's that? Like? 1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:39.880 You made an hair check? They was like, well, when 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:41.599 you've done ready before? Said well, I used to feel 1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:43.720 in at ready in New York on Hot Night the 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:47.360 seven for everybody? So is that so? Tracy Clarity literally 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:49.400 put in a good word for me and Jay Stevens 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:51.160 and't thea Mitchell game your afternoon? So it was a 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:54.080 little mo show and I was number one, Yeah, just 1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:56.920 by talking. But I had so many elements to the show. 1:22:57.000 --> 1:23:00.200 I literally patterned everything I did after Martin. So were 1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:03.439 Craig Cold people. We were like, it was really all 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:07.639 around good show until one day defense the Fats showed 1:23:07.720 --> 1:23:12.880 up a radio shot. Did you do what happened? It 1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:14.840 used to be so much going on in Baltimore, So 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:17.479 two things one day the cops showed up because remember 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:22.120 the DC sniper, Yeah, that was the waffle house, the 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:25.599 waffle house that he shot somebody I had just left. 1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:30.479 Don know what's crazy is the DC sniper used to 1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:32.760 go to a subway. It was the radio station right here, 1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:34.600 and it was a subway sandwich place he should go 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:37.200 to every day. And it was like he was so polite. 1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:39.360 They didn't know he was the sniper, so like, oh 1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:44.960 my god, I could have got sniped. I met his wife, Okay, Okay, 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:47.599 So I just felt like it was just a protective 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:49.560 thing at that point whence they realized that he was 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:51.640 in that area. And the second time they came was 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:54.320 when the R. Kelly scandal had came out. Okay, hold on, 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:56.640 because let's make sure if we go back to the R. 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.559 Kelly scandal, because it's very important to me. Okay, um 1:24:00.600 --> 1:24:08.120 to you, it's very important to me. Caring mind, okay, okay, 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.880 let's just be clear and were black? Yeah, we're black. 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:20.479 You thought that D sniper was black at first? No, 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:23.920 because that's not no black ship because he was sniping 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:26.320 ship and he's sniping like, I don't know black brothers. 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:29.600 You know that much time? So I was when the 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:33.040 kid too, was a kid he was with. That was 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:35.120 a kid, right, That wasn't his kid. He had taken 1:24:35.240 --> 1:24:37.000 him on. He was like fifteen, he was. He was 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:40.120 the one sniping ship. The kid, the kid, he trained him. 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:45.400 He tried to spers the guy on the on the 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:50.960 joint and then and the real snipers latt two Latin 1:24:51.000 --> 1:24:56.920 two four the wind. They were doing some crazy ship. 1:24:57.680 --> 1:25:02.000 They do you living in bottom at the time. Sniper ship? Yeah, 1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:04.840 first people want a skid to go outside, like it was. 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:08.640 I had a tour in the DMV at this time. 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:11.720 I sweeter guard. I could prove it all okay, um, 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:16.960 people get shot randomly in the station like people kep 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:19.479 against like this. I was plump again, like I was 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:22.920 like yo. I had someone driving me to said, some 1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:27.080 white people ship. What did you say? So at first 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:30.640 people thought that some white people ship. Not only that, 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.519 but you know it's a lot of military bases out there. 1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:35.400 He not. He did not pop no brothers. At first. 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:38.120 He popped. At first he was popping white people, and 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:39.640 then he just switched it on the brothers. And then 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:41.519 when it was gonna condo black people, and then he 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:43.680 popped the kid. That's when it was up. But my 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:48.320 cousin was a sheriff in ah uh St Mary's County, 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:50.519 and he was like, at first they could have been 1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:54.920 stopped it how because they have aerial stuff they see everything. 1:25:55.760 --> 1:25:57.960 But then once it got to the point where he started, 1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:03.559 it's almost like they the government could do anything because 1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:06.360 what you can control people by fear, then it's just 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:09.240 like okay, because they have like certain exercises that they 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.519 when they were reacting. But he really whatever was going on, 1:26:13.680 --> 1:26:16.400 he started invoking fearing the people to the point that 1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:19.680 nobody wanted to pump gas. Like businesses was suffering, and 1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:22.280 nobody knew what he was. Nobody knew what yeah, and 1:26:22.360 --> 1:26:24.200 nobody knew a car he was in. They just kept 1:26:24.240 --> 1:26:26.679 on saying, DC sniper, We have a composite sketch. Nobody 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:29.600 knew he was going to subway and waffle house, and 1:26:29.640 --> 1:26:32.120 he was going the subway after he was sniping. We 1:26:32.160 --> 1:26:34.120 don't know if it was before, but nobody knew they 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:35.680 would catch him sleeping at the rest stop and they 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:40.760 truck blocking in. He didn't look like look snipers usually 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:44.479 look sniper. He didn't had a dirty, scruffy sniper looked 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:46.759 like his name was Keith. He'd be on the internet 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:50.600 all sweat about to go at it. It's about to 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:54.920 be a shot. You got you, Yeah, give me a shot. 1:26:55.640 --> 1:26:58.519 Let me tell you why, because it's about to be up. 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:00.400 And then I'm gonna tell you who. I think between 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:05.280 the sniper it was just like I was pregnant at 1:27:05.280 --> 1:27:08.000 the time. So once people stopped, it was scary because 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:09.840 then it's just like, oh, this could be over here 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:14.960 like here, yeah, It's like it got dangerous. And once 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:17.920 he started going in areas that was Townson, that's that's 1:27:18.640 --> 1:27:23.719 a money areas tws O N. So when he started 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:26.320 going into areas that he people thought he should be 1:27:26.360 --> 1:27:29.439 sniping and Baltimore like, that's that's messed up. But then 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:31.880 when they had a composite sketch and I believe I 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:41.920 don't know if it wouldn't, but he was. His preciseness 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:45.479 was they was just like they never thought it was 1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:48.840 a black person. He was at military though, right, I 1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:50.439 believe so. But then when they found out that the 1:27:50.520 --> 1:27:52.839 young boy leave Maumo was sniping, he was like fourteen 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:56.000 and fifteen, how do you teach my son is about 1:27:56.000 --> 1:27:59.320 to be How do you impression? How do you put 1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:03.840 an impression on someone that's not your own child to 1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:05.720 be like, I want you to go out here and 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:09.880 we're about to change the game. And he never I 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:13.240 don't think he ever physically abused his uh ex wife, 1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:16.880 because I did panels with her about domestic abuse and 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:19.840 he was starting. But he never touched hard them kids. 1:28:20.680 --> 1:28:25.240 So they were trying to say wife, ex wife. They 1:28:25.360 --> 1:28:30.479 was just that's what that's what was the rule leg 1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:33.479 that he was mad at the ex wife because that's 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:36.720 a terrible domestic that's I'm just like it was. It 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:39.439 was crazy. So you you texted d C snaper wife 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:42.720 sometimes like, no, not anymore. We did. We did up 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:50.200 the podcast. So when I'm sitting up things like yo, 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:52.400 the lady, that's the lady, that's his wife, And I'm 1:28:52.439 --> 1:28:54.360 just like, and I asked of off the record, I 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:57.000 was just on something like, yo, did he ever pop out? 1:28:57.120 --> 1:28:59.439 Like but he would try to pop up at the sisters, 1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:02.439 her sister his house and threatened, but he never touched him. 1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:05.439 And I'm just like you, He's like, when you say 1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:08.280 pop out, what are you saying? Like like he was 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:11.160 just shooting the desistance. No, he never he just showed 1:29:11.240 --> 1:29:13.439 up he was popping people that had nothing to do 1:29:13.560 --> 1:29:16.800 with anything. A bus driver, a kid, a lady pumping gas. 1:29:17.520 --> 1:29:20.120 He was understanding. He had an argument with his wife 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:22.120 and said, I choose some other people. He didn't have 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:24.960 no manifesto here. And the reason it had no It 1:29:25.040 --> 1:29:29.720 wasn't like he was the oldest child supporters through the roof. Yeah, 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.680 so we don't know my wife, I kill mother and 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:38.360 these kids. I think he gets to your sister. He 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:40.880 just got He just everybody I think honestly has that 1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:44.760 breaking point. He was. That's serious. So like, is he 1:29:45.080 --> 1:29:50.479 wait they sniped him out right? I thought the kid definitely, 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:53.120 but I think he's out now right, the kid is out. 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:59.000 He was like four ship come on away in a 1:29:59.000 --> 1:30:01.439 minute something. But it was like when I say people 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:04.760 in different counties were afraid to pump gas. Do you 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:07.960 know how imperative it is to pump your gas? And 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:09.519 then when you got to peek around and you don't 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:13.599 know because nobody knew, they couldn't find the vehicle. No, nothing, 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:17.000 country would scared everybody like were gonna start doing that. 1:30:17.840 --> 1:30:22.000 He was literally he never missed right. So once he 1:30:22.160 --> 1:30:30.120 killed that kid that was at the busy house, that 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:32.160 he shot at the gas one of those joints. It 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:34.799 was either guy s the waffle house. We were playing 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:39.599 around because we had just seen the news. Huh did 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:41.439 But the young kid he trying to get out because 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:45.519 he was he was coerced m A l v O. 1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:50.080 So we were playing around, sweiteterguard. We're on tour, we're 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:53.720 playing around as we like, not getting gas. I think 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.240 she said that earlier, but I think we were like 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:58.759 just using the bathroom or whatever, and was like, yo, watch'all, 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:01.679 what'll the snipe? And we were playing with this, playing 1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:03.760 around the snipe. But we get to the hotel. You 1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:06.240 know how the tour bus ship that your to um 1:31:07.320 --> 1:31:09.920 the TV don't work when you're going on the highway 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:13.920 and then once you pull up to the hotel and 1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:16.000 it falls up and we all just look at each 1:31:16.040 --> 1:31:20.559 other like he shot the dude at the same exact 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:23.080 place we were playing like. We were just playing around, 1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.040 like yo, yo, let's get out of here. And we 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:27.000 looked and I pulled up. I was like the whole 1:31:27.080 --> 1:31:29.519 ship like we just we didn't play no more from 1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:32.080 from that, but they make you think as an artist, 1:31:32.160 --> 1:31:34.280 like what if he was at the show. Yeah, Wow, 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:37.960 damn that he definitely shot before the show. It was 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.320 looking before you know, he was getting away because he 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:42.559 didn't get caught after so he might have been at 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:47.640 that motherfucker like it might have been turned them up 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:58.519 this leg because because because in a snipe, because people 1:31:58.600 --> 1:32:01.439 think that snipers just snipe and then be just on 1:32:01.560 --> 1:32:06.280 a rampage like that. Right went to the Whitefire, was like, oh, 1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:08.040 nor over there, I might go check it out. I 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:10.519 ain't got no tickets. I mean, I'm like, yeah, he 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:13.000 might pop through to the last place they're gonna expect. 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:15.880 They always do not Earlier, I heard you say you 1:32:15.960 --> 1:32:18.960 worked with jay Z? How was that? And on what 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:22.599 area is jay Z? Is this? It's just possible up 1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:25.439 next year. Damn he getting out. They're gonna get him out. 1:32:25.439 --> 1:32:30.640 He's gonna do a story here. Yeah, that that's like 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:33.880 mental abuse, like when you go through a program, for sure. 1:32:34.040 --> 1:32:37.360 But where was his parents? I always asked that, No, 1:32:37.840 --> 1:32:41.479 that wasn't the whole time, So where was his mom 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:42.920 and dad? That's why I'm just like and every time 1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:44.439 I asked that, I get in trouble because people like, 1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:46.639 why are you write about where's people's parents? Said? Because 1:32:46.880 --> 1:32:49.760 my daughter is legally grown, and I can't even set 1:32:49.840 --> 1:32:51.040 up a point was they were like, well, we have 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:53.080 to speak up first before we give you this information. 1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:55.120 So I'm just like, I'll be knowing. I need to 1:32:55.200 --> 1:32:57.519 know where these parents is at because I need to 1:32:57.600 --> 1:33:00.400 know when my kids is at all time. Because ship 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:04.120 is real and you colact if you want to. But 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:06.840 niggas is catching people slipping, and I would hate to 1:33:06.960 --> 1:33:09.960 be the like I don't know if maybe he don't 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:11.840 know if he was like an adoptive son or maybe 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:17.639 his godfather, But how did he get it? What matter? 1:33:17.920 --> 1:33:19.439 What did he say to him? That may be like 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:21.720 you're going out here the Snipe ship, you have to 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:25.680 be pretty persuasive and charismatic to be able to pull 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:27.920 it off. I don't want nobody to have that type 1:33:27.920 --> 1:33:31.879 of power over my son because it's that easy. Period. 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.840 So yeah, what were we talking about. I ain't gonna 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:40.280 f d Sniper Gonna from Sniper's He's that, he's that 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:47.000 but the kid but snipers out. So now marriage bootcap 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:49.639 come to you? Oh yeah, because we were talking about 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:54.320 loving hip hop but between because love and hip hop 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:58.479 and marriage, Blue Camp was literally filmed almost simultaneously It 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:00.799 was literally a couple of months after because because Mary's 1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:04.160 Bootcamp had to get clearance to from Love and hip 1:34:04.200 --> 1:34:06.760 Hop too, so he was already on a couple of 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:09.320 seasons of Love and Hip Hop one season okay, and 1:34:09.400 --> 1:34:10.880 I was done. I did my bed and I was out. 1:34:12.320 --> 1:34:20.679 Let me get it. Yeah, goddamn god, I'm so marriage 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:25.000 boot camp. I gotta ask you, Um, I believe it's 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:27.679 your husband at the time, Yeah, because I'm not married 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:31.200 no more. Okay, So this is this footage of him 1:34:31.360 --> 1:34:35.760 like face timing or being was that something that the 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:38.200 show bowled off or that was this was? This was 1:34:38.280 --> 1:34:41.720 absolutely real? Because it was absolutely real real, It was 1:34:41.720 --> 1:34:44.880 absolutely real. And one thing because now I can talk 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:46.640 about it because we couldn't talk about it before the 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:49.080 show came out, so I had to fake the funk 1:34:49.200 --> 1:34:52.040 as if we were still together until the show actually aired. 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:53.960 But that was back in nineteen So now I can 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:56.920 talk about it. With that house, you're there for like 1:34:57.160 --> 1:34:59.479 thirty days, not thirty days or so like twenty eight 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:05.960 days and anything after they say after things, you after tries, 1:35:06.000 --> 1:35:08.160 it's a habit, but when you're in that house for 1:35:08.200 --> 1:35:11.000 a week, it's almost I wouldn't say jail because I've 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:13.200 never been to jail. But when you're in the middle 1:35:13.240 --> 1:35:19.200 of nowhere, you can't leave. There's little to no WiFi connection. 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:22.200 You have to stand by where that actual scene was 1:35:22.439 --> 1:35:25.160 filmed because that's where the WiFi connection is. The house 1:35:25.280 --> 1:35:29.200 is a dead zone. And before you film, they keep 1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:30.960 you in the hotel. You can't leave out your room. 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:33.280 They bring everything to you. You don't have no room key, 1:35:33.760 --> 1:35:36.200 you don't have no access to the outside world. It's 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:39.760 mentally designed to break you down because then you get 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:42.240 when your mind is broken down. It's a real boot camp. 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:44.599 And they let you know that and you sign off. 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:46.960 So I know what I signed up for, but when 1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:48.960 you sign up for it, it's just like you know 1:35:49.040 --> 1:35:51.880 what you're getting into. But I went back to what 1:35:52.000 --> 1:35:56.920 Mona says is, if you find out what is presented 1:35:57.040 --> 1:35:59.080 before you, and you find out that it is valid, 1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:01.400 what are you gonna do right? Because because how this 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:04.760 happens right, because you will sleep At the time he 1:36:04.920 --> 1:36:06.360 was making I was gonna hold another side of the 1:36:06.439 --> 1:36:09.960 house as big as ships. You get lost in that motherfucker. 1:36:10.120 --> 1:36:11.760 And then sometimes they cut off parts of the house. 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:14.160 They'll be like Oh you can't know. You can't come 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:16.320 over here because they're setting up scenes like you'll be 1:36:16.400 --> 1:36:17.960 sleep and you wake up and it's a whole fucking 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:22.400 carnival houseide. So with that, I was on the other 1:36:22.479 --> 1:36:24.439 side of the house. So is it a cast member 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:27.519 who tells you this or is it the actual staff 1:36:27.600 --> 1:36:31.560 or production? It's actually dr being doctor Ish And I 1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:33.759 could say it now because they came to me off record, 1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:37.320 because when you're filling doctor who dr V that's the 1:36:37.400 --> 1:36:41.920 lady and Dr Ish. I just don't know the doctor Okay, 1:36:42.160 --> 1:36:46.120 dr Ish, but Dr V was the white lady, right, Okay, 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:48.720 I remember that. Okay, they came to me. It was like, 1:36:48.760 --> 1:36:52.040 can we talk to you? And like when they say 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:53.240 they can they talk to you? They take you in 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:56.599 this white room and are you automatically thinking that they're 1:36:56.640 --> 1:36:59.519 trying to start drama or you believe they're not there 1:36:59.520 --> 1:37:02.320 to start Okay? Cool, they're they're honestly they want you 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.559 to bring the druma. They know it's only a certain 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:06.479 amount of time you can last before the dramas. Like 1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:08.120 people can sit up there and try to hide, but 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:11.160 it's gonna pop out because they're mentally funk with you 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:14.560 till you be like, oh ship. So I was in 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:18.720 the house with Soldier Boy India Jessica Dime and her 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:27.000 husband Tammy, and walk up and his girl was like, 1:37:27.160 --> 1:37:29.280 so I was a house with soldier boy, but that's 1:37:29.320 --> 1:37:32.800 like my nephew. So I literally got to see soldier boys. 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:34.639 Time for you come to drink chats on me? Yeah, 1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:38.200 because I got to see everything that went down. So 1:37:38.280 --> 1:37:40.439 I've literally seen a lot of people grow up in 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:42.000 the industry and then I got to live in the 1:37:42.080 --> 1:37:44.840 house with them. And seeing people in the industry and 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:48.800 live with them is two separate things. So mentally, I 1:37:48.880 --> 1:37:51.920 saw everybody break down. And I'm not gonna put nobody's 1:37:51.960 --> 1:37:54.280 business out there. I'm gonna talk about me. So I 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:56.439 know when my breaking fronts they came to you and 1:37:56.520 --> 1:37:58.400 they showed you the footage, or they take me to 1:37:58.600 --> 1:38:00.320 side and they bring me they bring they was like, 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:01.720 can you come talk to us? And once they take 1:38:01.760 --> 1:38:03.000 you in the white room, you know what's up in 1:38:03.040 --> 1:38:05.599 the stuff? From there, they're gonna they're gonna that's when 1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:08.200 they film and they're gonna present you with some information 1:38:08.560 --> 1:38:11.960 because everybody you think you sneak it, but this could 1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:14.560 be a microphone. This could be a camera. Everything is 1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:16.519 a camera to the microphone. This could be a camera. 1:38:16.760 --> 1:38:19.120 So you sit up there, yeah, this'll bet they got 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:23.360 you here. The house is strategically put together to catch 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:26.000 your ass slipping. So unless you layter there like this 1:38:26.760 --> 1:38:28.840 and reading your Bible the whole time, your ask gonna 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:32.040 get caught in some ship. So when it came to 1:38:32.120 --> 1:38:34.240 me they unfolded these papers, they was like, hey, you're 1:38:34.280 --> 1:38:35.920 good to that? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. What's going on? 1:38:36.000 --> 1:38:38.680 Because we're smoking helloween? Because you're going crazy out there. 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:41.120 It's the middle of nowhere and you can't go nowhere. 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:44.439 So they were like, we want to show you. I 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:46.840 don't even know where this. They drive you there and 1:38:46.920 --> 1:38:49.360 you don't know where there because they'll stop, they pull over, 1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:53.280 and then you're getting the lambo and then you and 1:38:53.320 --> 1:38:57.760 you're like President, yeah, it's no address. You can't be 1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:00.519 like I'm gonna say my location. Ain't none of that 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:03.439 going on, which they had a police out there. So 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:07.400 I just remember them handing me some papers, which I 1:39:07.439 --> 1:39:08.880 still have to this day because I went through some 1:39:08.920 --> 1:39:12.519 old luggage and I'm like, god, damn, they unfold they 1:39:12.720 --> 1:39:14.040 send me these people. There's like, do you know who 1:39:14.120 --> 1:39:16.120 this is? I'm like, no, that looks like a dude. 1:39:16.160 --> 1:39:18.439 They was like, oh, it's a female. Because whoever it was. 1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:20.640 I was like, well, the face looks pixelized. What is 1:39:20.640 --> 1:39:24.080 it given? And they were like, um, are you the 1:39:24.200 --> 1:39:27.880 only person that your people was dealing with? I said, well, 1:39:27.960 --> 1:39:30.519 far as I know, Like how the fun I can't 1:39:30.520 --> 1:39:32.280 even call my kids hardy out here. I have to 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:35.439 use y'all phones to check on my kids. They were like, well, 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:38.479 we have reason to believe that he has someone else 1:39:38.520 --> 1:39:40.439 in his life, because he has someone in his phone 1:39:40.479 --> 1:39:43.840 saved this W two. I'm like, like as a tax phone, 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:47.960 as in like woman number two, like a wo They 1:39:47.960 --> 1:39:49.559 said it would save that W two and I said, 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:52.519 I do not know who. I was thinking W two 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:59.800 or maybe two when they actually it was like, okay, 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:01.479 you know how long i've been leagal I've been. I 1:40:01.600 --> 1:40:05.040 thought about straight lead and that's what I was taking. 1:40:05.080 --> 1:40:06.200 I was like, give you two. I was like, well, 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:08.639 you know people on the East Coast they run scars. 1:40:08.680 --> 1:40:11.200 Maybe she funneling somebody in W two. Like we don't 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:13.280 do W. We do T ninety nine. So I don't 1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:16.120 know who fun this is. So they okay, so we're 1:40:16.120 --> 1:40:18.680 gonna give you some time, and we're gonna give him 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:20.800 time to let you know because we've already discussed this 1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:22.920 with him, so you never know what's going on. So 1:40:23.040 --> 1:40:25.960 they gave him Bamble enough time to say, listen, this 1:40:26.120 --> 1:40:28.560 is what I did. And they caught me slipping. But 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:31.040 because we don't talk in the house, we're bringing notes 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:33.880 and in the bathroom is the safest place where you 1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:36.519 can write but don't talk. So he has Yeah, they 1:40:36.560 --> 1:40:38.960 sent me on the phone with my sister that when 1:40:38.960 --> 1:40:40.519 I said I love you and she said she loves 1:40:40.520 --> 1:40:43.080 you back. They thinking somebody, all right, bet what I'm 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:46.280 thinking about the picture, But that's only her sister. Okay, 1:40:46.520 --> 1:40:49.280 So now now I get into defense mode. So then 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:53.000 they take us both into the white room and they're like, yo, 1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:55.120 so do you want did you have a chance to 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:58.320 discuss what you He starts going off on the doctor. 1:40:58.320 --> 1:41:00.040 I said, set your ass down. Don't talk to a 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:01.760 man like that, because you know if you hit them, 1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:04.200 you're getting prosecuted. Like it's a clause in there. If 1:41:04.200 --> 1:41:06.519 you touch one of them doctors, you're you're getting arrested. 1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:08.519 For us all and then and then you're getting kicked 1:41:08.520 --> 1:41:10.640 off and you're not gonna get paid periods like you 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:12.920 you already know the vibes sit your ask there, why 1:41:12.920 --> 1:41:14.680 are you being so defensive? What the fun going on? 1:41:15.080 --> 1:41:16.519 We're in the middle of nowhere, and how the fun? 1:41:17.080 --> 1:41:18.840 But if a motherucker's gonna do what they want to do, 1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:21.559 they're gonna do that ship underground up in the air 1:41:22.120 --> 1:41:24.240 in the middle of nowhere, We're gonna do what they 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:27.400 want to do. Boom. So I had to play it 1:41:27.479 --> 1:41:29.519 off at that point, and I'm just like, damn, like 1:41:30.200 --> 1:41:33.120 should I'm out here trying to fix the situation. But 1:41:33.200 --> 1:41:35.680 I realized that situation even though it's marriage, but can't. 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:39.200 I went in to fix myself because I already knew 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:40.720 what the fun was going on, and I knew what 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:44.120 the funk was hitting for. But I needed to face 1:41:44.200 --> 1:41:48.160 the reality that I was allowing my brand to be compromised. 1:41:48.560 --> 1:41:51.120 I was allowing my integrity to be compromised, which my 1:41:51.240 --> 1:41:54.960 dad told me never compromising integrity. I was allowing my 1:41:55.160 --> 1:41:59.599 personal space to be compromised, and I was by mental 1:41:59.680 --> 1:42:03.439 emotion to no physical, spiritual everything was compromised. So I 1:42:03.600 --> 1:42:06.040 needed those twenty eight days to break me down, because 1:42:06.120 --> 1:42:08.960 once I get out of this, I'm up and it's stuck. 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:15.760 And then, you know, we've been saying that for years, 1:42:16.040 --> 1:42:19.320 what's up? It's up for you when it's because you 1:42:19.400 --> 1:42:21.320 know when it's up there, my heart, my daughter said, 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.280 he was like, yeah, something like that. It's up in 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:25.920 the stuff. So when they came out with a song, 1:42:26.280 --> 1:42:28.400 I was just like, it is what it is. So 1:42:29.160 --> 1:42:31.360 after that I realized, now it's trying to make your 1:42:31.360 --> 1:42:34.080 way of escape so you could stay and know the 1:42:34.120 --> 1:42:38.320 bullshit you dealing with and know that it's actually destroying 1:42:38.360 --> 1:42:40.559 your brand because once you don't know what they're keeping 1:42:40.600 --> 1:42:43.120 far as the footage, but once it's once it's out there, 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:45.160 you already know what people's d m and you and 1:42:45.240 --> 1:42:48.360 sending you. You already know the truth. It's tough for 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:51.639 you to face it. So me being a woman that comes. 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:55.160 My parents are about to celebrate August night, they're celebrating 1:42:55.200 --> 1:43:02.040 forty years marriage. Both parents grew in church, grew up military, like, 1:43:02.160 --> 1:43:06.519 grew up bedtime, you know, a very lenient home. So 1:43:06.680 --> 1:43:09.040 what I was doing and how I grew up wasn't 1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:11.920 matching up. I was accepting things that I shouldn't even 1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:17.560 allow to permeate my space. So it was just like 1:43:17.720 --> 1:43:20.360 I had to make a choice. But when you're trying 1:43:20.400 --> 1:43:22.360 to leave a situation after the world was about to 1:43:22.400 --> 1:43:24.280 see like damn, I thought you was married this this 1:43:24.320 --> 1:43:26.920 is your third marriage. When they showed a thing like damn, 1:43:27.000 --> 1:43:29.200 bit a lady talking one time, every time I turned around, 1:43:29.200 --> 1:43:30.880 you get married. I saw a bit stop turning around. 1:43:32.760 --> 1:43:35.840 But then I had to realize for myself, fish stopped 1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:40.200 making permanent decision off temporary emotions. So I took that 1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:43.320 accountbating for myself. So honestly, marriage boot camp was for 1:43:43.360 --> 1:43:45.360 me to get my mentor together because it will put 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:46.960 you in the space where you have no other choice 1:43:47.000 --> 1:43:56.559 but to fix fix it. Yeah, So it didn't complicated 1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:59.760 at all because I had a domestic uh case open 1:43:59.840 --> 1:44:01.760 with is a p F a protection from abused, So 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:03.760 people a lot of people don't know, but people were 1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:06.519 telling me, But I was defending a situation which we 1:44:06.640 --> 1:44:08.200 know what the fun going on. I'm like, fuck you bitch, 1:44:08.240 --> 1:44:10.200 I'll beat your ass. Well, How'm gonna beat your ass? 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:13.920 And I'm getting my ass beat. So I'm one of 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:16.400 the people that followed through in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. You 1:44:16.439 --> 1:44:18.320 have to go three times to the court, and I 1:44:18.360 --> 1:44:20.720 went all three times, so I have a detective order. 1:44:21.479 --> 1:44:24.719 So with that, my divorces find on everything. I realized 1:44:24.800 --> 1:44:26.840 and dr Ish, the black guy, he came to me. 1:44:26.920 --> 1:44:29.760 He was like, I don't ever con like. I don't 1:44:29.800 --> 1:44:33.080 never push for divorce or for people to break up. 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:37.320 But I'm gonna just tell you mo once he said, Cynthia, 1:44:37.400 --> 1:44:39.599 that's my realm name. Once you realize who you are, 1:44:40.520 --> 1:44:43.000 that's when you're gonna make the right decisions and you're 1:44:43.040 --> 1:44:46.519 gonna level up. And I asked you this early in 1:44:46.600 --> 1:44:50.120 a different way. Um, so you were lady to marry 1:44:50.200 --> 1:44:52.680 j Blis when when she felt like that very much? 1:44:53.280 --> 1:44:55.960 And on Hot Boys video set because I'll start crying 1:44:56.000 --> 1:44:59.720 that when this one ship get real. Me, I took 1:44:59.760 --> 1:45:01.680 my used to always go with my sister everywhere. I 1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:04.200 always keep somebody with my family close because I don't 1:45:04.240 --> 1:45:06.720 trust the industry. Peoples will try to lie you. I've 1:45:06.760 --> 1:45:08.679 been I've been a situation with people try to on people. 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:13.000 I ain't got nothing to do with that. Um Mary 1:45:13.080 --> 1:45:15.639 j Blache had got and we were in our trailers 1:45:15.720 --> 1:45:17.920 and she was just shooting a scene and so for 1:45:18.040 --> 1:45:21.320 some way reason Hot Boys video shooting, I had my 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:22.720 sister with me and my sister like, I want to 1:45:22.760 --> 1:45:24.280 meet Eve. I was like, let's go say how to marry? 1:45:24.280 --> 1:45:26.960 She with her sister, Lutalian Mary Grahamed. She was like, 1:45:27.120 --> 1:45:29.200 oh my god. And I still have the picture to 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:30.640 this day with me and my sister from the Hot 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:32.840 Boys set. She was like, yeah, I got so. She 1:45:32.920 --> 1:45:35.559 used to call us the pretty Whig sisters. She was like, yeah, 1:45:35.560 --> 1:45:38.920 I've got some pretty wig so mind you. I'm just 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:40.960 getting the industry. And I meet Mary J. Blige and 1:45:41.040 --> 1:45:46.000 I'm so freaking hight. Mary says, let me tell you something. 1:45:46.720 --> 1:45:49.960 Don't trust under these motherfucker's and keep your family close. 1:45:50.320 --> 1:45:54.880 Why she sounds like Mary right now, like her, you 1:45:55.000 --> 1:45:57.360 just you just embedded her. She told me that that 1:45:57.520 --> 1:46:00.400 was the nineteen She said, don't trust sun of these 1:46:00.479 --> 1:46:03.920 motherfucker's and keep your sister close, keep your family like 1:46:04.040 --> 1:46:06.599 your real family clothes because people will play like their 1:46:06.640 --> 1:46:09.000 family and they don't. But she was like, will you 1:46:09.040 --> 1:46:10.479 get your wigs from? I was like, oh, my friend 1:46:10.479 --> 1:46:12.639 got it from Flatbush. As she ordered the twenty dollars, 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:15.160 she said the fuck No, paid twenty dollars and we 1:46:15.240 --> 1:46:16.840 just paid the thousand dollars for these to be floating. 1:46:16.840 --> 1:46:18.559 And I said, now we get these just from Flatbush. 1:46:18.640 --> 1:46:21.920 My girl, my whole girl. Yes, she buys. I give 1:46:21.960 --> 1:46:24.640 a hundred. She bought five wigs and she styles them 1:46:24.720 --> 1:46:26.920 up so while people are charging the thals and she 1:46:26.960 --> 1:46:28.640 getting them from the line, she the line, she just 1:46:28.720 --> 1:46:31.320 saws and she called us the pretty Weig sisters. And 1:46:31.360 --> 1:46:33.400 then after that, I never forgot this. So every time 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:38.080 I see Mary's always loved. She always like documentary. I 1:46:38.120 --> 1:46:41.240 haven't seen it yet, but I saw pieces of it 1:46:41.280 --> 1:46:42.920 because I saw it with me supposed and I saw it, 1:46:43.000 --> 1:46:47.040 I was just like, damn, that ship. I've I've seen 1:46:47.160 --> 1:46:49.240 tours with Mary and I've been a lot of her shows, 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:52.560 and I'm just like, damn, I feel that I know 1:46:52.640 --> 1:46:54.560 what it's like to be on I was addicted to 1:46:54.640 --> 1:46:59.479 opioids ecstacy. When I googled you, um, that was the 1:46:59.560 --> 1:47:03.400 third and that came up was opioids And I don't 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:08.800 exactly know what is. Can you explain that wells are 1:47:08.840 --> 1:47:12.040 like percosets and it's a narcotic But it started with 1:47:12.120 --> 1:47:15.000 prescribed pills. It started with prescribed pills because us as 1:47:15.080 --> 1:47:17.840 in the black community, when we think of opioids, we 1:47:17.960 --> 1:47:21.000 always think that's a white thing. Yeah we're not realizing, 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:23.519 But I don't live in a black neighborhood. You know 1:47:23.560 --> 1:47:26.720 what's crazy is the soccer moms. That's who be lit. 1:47:26.880 --> 1:47:28.600 You wonder why they'd be so hyping the carras be 1:47:28.640 --> 1:47:32.360 so lit. I'm like, oh, she's on man's wait wait there. 1:47:32.400 --> 1:47:36.080 Mostly they don't mostly purposes. They mostly do zanix a 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:39.599 lot of that stuff. Like when I was the amount 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:41.519 that I was doing for my height and my weight, 1:47:42.040 --> 1:47:47.560 it was unacceptable. So how does this happens? You you 1:47:47.840 --> 1:47:49.920 break a fingertip or something that you go to the doctor. 1:47:50.280 --> 1:47:52.840 All my children I have five children, all five were 1:47:52.880 --> 1:47:56.200 born via since area. So they give you all of them. 1:47:56.439 --> 1:47:58.840 And what does that? People that they cut you open. 1:47:58.880 --> 1:48:00.600 You don't push it out your pal all right, so 1:48:00.840 --> 1:48:03.320 cut you so they got used mads. After that they 1:48:03.400 --> 1:48:04.880 give you they give you a spinal so they don't 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:06.840 give you a normal apple duel. So that means from 1:48:06.920 --> 1:48:10.200 here on down, well, from the waist on, from the 1:48:10.400 --> 1:48:13.920 ribs on down, everything is sleep. And before you can 1:48:14.000 --> 1:48:16.200 even go see your kid, for real, and before you 1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:17.880 go you have to you have to move your feet, 1:48:17.920 --> 1:48:19.640 is certain things you have to do. So when you 1:48:19.760 --> 1:48:23.479 have a V a vaginal birth, you can literally go 1:48:23.560 --> 1:48:25.320 home the next day. We have a C section, you're 1:48:25.320 --> 1:48:30.839 doing five days automatically. It's literally the most it's dangerous 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:33.200 because everything is sleeping. A lot of people they'll do 1:48:33.360 --> 1:48:35.479 V back, which is vaginal birth after Ssian. But I 1:48:35.479 --> 1:48:37.760 don't want to feel no labor, so I opted for 1:48:37.880 --> 1:48:39.960 all cesaria. But I realized now I was just getting 1:48:39.960 --> 1:48:41.720 necessary because I didn't want to feel no pain because 1:48:41.720 --> 1:48:44.040 I was gonna throw enough in my life. So medicate 1:48:44.160 --> 1:48:47.599 me and give me my perks. And then after after 1:48:47.720 --> 1:48:51.639 these you're saying, after the the highest level of men's 1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:54.080 that you can get. Because what I'm saying, when when 1:48:54.320 --> 1:48:56.679 did you become to your thought, did you was addicted? 1:48:56.960 --> 1:48:59.639 It's after all five kids, or this is in between. 1:48:59.720 --> 1:49:02.600 It was between really because of day was giving you 1:49:02.640 --> 1:49:05.120 because they'll give you the mass. And then when they 1:49:05.200 --> 1:49:08.840 when they come past the point where it becomes uh, 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:12.400 doctors can't lose their license for overprescribing. So then we 1:49:12.439 --> 1:49:14.559 start going to the street to try to pay an 1:49:14.640 --> 1:49:16.840 extra money. A thirty on the street now sixty dollars. 1:49:17.200 --> 1:49:23.479 Before it was like sixty's a shower. Thirty is the highest. 1:49:23.520 --> 1:49:25.800 If you go over that, then you're just asking motherfucking deaf, 1:49:25.840 --> 1:49:27.760 you might as well just do heroin. But I never 1:49:27.840 --> 1:49:29.479 wanted to do heroin because I'm like, oh, now I 1:49:29.520 --> 1:49:32.600 can't see myself. Are you are aware of what's going on? 1:49:32.760 --> 1:49:35.720 Like you're aware that this is almost this is like 1:49:35.800 --> 1:49:40.439 considered real drugs, even though you know you're getting it 1:49:40.479 --> 1:49:42.800 from a doctor, Like did you ever consider that this 1:49:42.920 --> 1:49:45.320 is crazy? Or I didn't care? Okay, because I'm like, 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.479 I'm in the music industry. I'm a rock star and 1:49:47.720 --> 1:49:50.240 popp acts on a smoke weed and I did coke, 1:49:50.400 --> 1:49:53.160 never did heron, never did math. So I'm just like 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:55.920 everybody else is doing it. You'd be surprised how many 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:58.960 people at this Molly set. But I try to give 1:49:59.040 --> 1:50:01.760 him perket he wouldn't even make it. Will you try 1:50:01.800 --> 1:50:05.680 to get Future Perfect at a Philly show? And he 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:08.880 wouldn't take it? He was like no recently, this is 1:50:08.920 --> 1:50:12.760 when this is about five four or five years ago. 1:50:12.840 --> 1:50:14.439 It was him Todd dollars on at the show and 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:16.080 I tried and I was just like, what the fund 1:50:16.120 --> 1:50:19.320 is you doing? Mo? And he was like, no, I'm 1:50:19.320 --> 1:50:20.840 not gonna perform like that. So I was just like, 1:50:20.960 --> 1:50:26.080 you know what, Yeah, you're saying what are you doing? More? 1:50:26.160 --> 1:50:28.960 Because you hear you all listening to his Yeah, how 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:31.240 I'm trying to be the line because I hear a 1:50:31.320 --> 1:50:34.000 song and I automatically assume that's what he does, just 1:50:34.120 --> 1:50:38.720 because somebody says, almost shoot up the club. Nobody's yeah, 1:50:38.880 --> 1:50:41.240 Like just because people say it don't mean they really 1:50:41.280 --> 1:50:45.200 do it. We know, what's what's the way? Philly? He's 1:50:45.240 --> 1:50:47.680 in Philly and you come to him, and how do 1:50:47.760 --> 1:50:49.400 you describe this situation? You say, what's up? Bro? I 1:50:49.479 --> 1:50:51.800 go because I'm saying future for years, I've known it 1:50:51.880 --> 1:50:54.920 for years. Like so it's like aways a double cup, 1:50:55.439 --> 1:50:58.160 Yeah okay, And we were actually I think we will 1:50:58.240 --> 1:50:59.519 you know what you're trying to say that we were 1:50:59.640 --> 1:51:02.599 like we were actually that's that's make everybody drinks before 1:51:02.600 --> 1:51:04.880 this show because it's honestly it's a comment. But the 1:51:05.200 --> 1:51:07.639 double cut means scissor. That doesn't mean no, he didn't 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:12.479 have that. We were actually making well I used to 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:16.120 do to really like I don't understand how I'm still alive. 1:51:16.880 --> 1:51:20.080 I'm gonna tell you because I've had a situations where 1:51:20.160 --> 1:51:23.439 I've had to be hospitalized. But we were making sandwiches 1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:25.040 and so we were getting a picture. I took it 1:51:25.200 --> 1:51:26.760 m throwing up a dome like damn, we would just eat, 1:51:26.920 --> 1:51:28.920 and I was just like, yo, you're good. You want some. 1:51:29.439 --> 1:51:31.240 I was like, I got onto fives and some tens 1:51:31.280 --> 1:51:32.920 and he was like, no, I'm good. He's like I 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:34.600 wouldn't be able to perform like that, and I was like, 1:51:34.680 --> 1:51:38.320 I respect that. Fives and some tens just pink this 1:51:38.479 --> 1:51:41.160 green there's white, So fives of the whites, that's the 1:51:41.240 --> 1:51:46.040 lowest millgram thirties those are for the heavier us. Yeah, 1:51:46.720 --> 1:51:51.200 and what are we talking about? What is the perks 1:51:51.240 --> 1:51:56.080 of perks? What do you yeah? The person? Honestly, if 1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:58.680 you don't, it's a it's a pay man. It's the 1:51:58.720 --> 1:52:01.479 highest level of pay man. So when you're all them, 1:52:02.640 --> 1:52:06.040 you become aggressive because you feel nothing. You don't feel anything. 1:52:06.160 --> 1:52:09.640 It's honestly, it's it's almost like it's an upper So 1:52:09.720 --> 1:52:12.600 it makes you feel a cocai, but it makes you 1:52:12.680 --> 1:52:15.160 feel like you're invincible. So I won't be in here 1:52:15.200 --> 1:52:17.800 throwing it around. See when you start mixing stuff. I've 1:52:17.800 --> 1:52:19.639 been in places where I'm knocked it over. I'm gonnaknock 1:52:19.680 --> 1:52:21.360 all this ship over you. You know what I'm saying. 1:52:21.400 --> 1:52:23.800 But I'm just like, damn, like I really let myself 1:52:23.880 --> 1:52:26.880 hit rock bottom. But you you said a co car? 1:52:27.360 --> 1:52:30.479 What does this co car? I feel like upper so 1:52:31.520 --> 1:52:35.200 love story. It's just like I did. That was back 1:52:35.240 --> 1:52:41.439 in the days first you did cocaine with. Honestly, I 1:52:41.439 --> 1:52:44.439 don't do drugs in front of people really because I've 1:52:44.479 --> 1:52:47.439 always had fear or they're gonna have me looking crazy 1:52:47.920 --> 1:52:50.600 and my butt be out like some weird ship. I 1:52:50.680 --> 1:52:52.720 remember being high of X and I had to tell 1:52:52.800 --> 1:52:55.320 my manager at the time, like because she gripped me up. 1:52:55.360 --> 1:52:57.720 I was with Snoop and Joey i A and I 1:52:57.800 --> 1:53:00.760 was about to get hurts how and she was like, 1:53:00.840 --> 1:53:03.320 sit your ass down, don't you ruin this party because 1:53:03.360 --> 1:53:06.200 this is not your this is not your place. And 1:53:06.280 --> 1:53:08.360 I sat my ass down and I went in the room, 1:53:08.360 --> 1:53:10.040 and I remember crying because I thought the phone was 1:53:10.080 --> 1:53:11.320 on fire. I was like, can we please get my 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:12.519 mother on the phone because I don't want to be 1:53:12.600 --> 1:53:16.240 this high. The phone was on fire and that's what 1:53:16.479 --> 1:53:19.160 That's what it looked like to me. Ecstasy is weird, 1:53:20.040 --> 1:53:22.719 so I stopped that. But I was chasing that high 1:53:23.439 --> 1:53:26.040 from purpose. Well, I hadn't done perks about it. I 1:53:26.160 --> 1:53:29.479 was just doing X halves and holes. I thought I 1:53:29.560 --> 1:53:34.040 was a rock star. Yeah, but I would sing a 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:36.880 show and be killing it, so I wasn't like singing 1:53:36.920 --> 1:53:39.880 all weird and something. To me, that's what helped job 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:42.120 rule is ecstasy. It helped a lot of artists. You'd 1:53:42.160 --> 1:53:54.880 be surprised they what gospel artists? Artists? Did you say? Gods? 1:53:54.880 --> 1:53:57.160 Who artists? They do drugs too. There's a couple of them. 1:53:58.720 --> 1:54:03.120 You'd be surprised because it's like artists just because they 1:54:03.200 --> 1:54:05.160 sing a certain genre music, you just never know what 1:54:05.240 --> 1:54:06.720 the person is going through. And not realized what I 1:54:06.800 --> 1:54:09.080 was going through. I realized that I was trying to 1:54:09.880 --> 1:54:15.200 cover the pain with pills, but it was actually destroying 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:17.400 my spirit. So that's why I we're retalited. I'll be 1:54:17.479 --> 1:54:20.120 throwing shoes that bitches be trying to fight, Like the 1:54:20.280 --> 1:54:22.720 last straw was. I remember, I was off a pill. 1:54:23.360 --> 1:54:26.679 I was off a Zanni No, I was off Addie 1:54:27.280 --> 1:54:33.120 and a perk and my white friends take this. It's 1:54:33.120 --> 1:54:36.720 actually subscribed at a roller for actually is to calm 1:54:36.800 --> 1:54:39.920 you and to keep you focused. So it's those those 1:54:42.160 --> 1:54:45.160 pills aren't designed to make you go crazy, but when 1:54:45.200 --> 1:54:48.560 you start making cocktails and using them, it does your system. 1:54:48.680 --> 1:54:50.960 Just like, wait, what the going on? What was the cocktail? Cocktails? 1:54:52.560 --> 1:54:58.240 Alcohol to start your dad? So me being four eleven 1:54:59.680 --> 1:55:03.000 pos back then, I was like one fifteen? How am 1:55:03.040 --> 1:55:05.480 I still alive? So that's when I had to become 1:55:05.480 --> 1:55:07.720 an advocate because I'm just like, yo, this ship because 1:55:07.760 --> 1:55:10.040 once the high come down, you'd be so aggravated. That's 1:55:10.080 --> 1:55:12.280 when I started cursing everybody out. The funk you're talking about, 1:55:12.280 --> 1:55:15.280 bitch will pop out like what And a lot of 1:55:15.320 --> 1:55:17.480 people I had lost a whole, like a lot of 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:20.800 fans like it was making the blogs. I'm like, well, 1:55:20.840 --> 1:55:22.720 the stuff I promote, y'all don't post up, But when 1:55:22.720 --> 1:55:25.000 I talk crazy to people, that's what y'all post up. 1:55:25.040 --> 1:55:27.040 So I thought I had to had had the music 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:30.680 and this on the radio. No, now I was on 1:55:30.720 --> 1:55:32.680 the radio because I know that we're radio. I had 1:55:32.720 --> 1:55:34.760 said something someone one time and they called the radio 1:55:34.760 --> 1:55:36.200 station trying to get me fired. I said, you can't 1:55:36.200 --> 1:55:39.120 give me fired, which I'm number one, so I became 1:55:39.200 --> 1:55:44.360 copy at that point. That morning show was hard to 1:55:44.400 --> 1:55:47.520 be number one, but people would call and complain. But 1:55:47.600 --> 1:55:49.640 then when they call and complain and too much, you 1:55:49.760 --> 1:55:51.800 just like, all right, I gotta fall back. But nobody 1:55:51.840 --> 1:55:54.640 would tell me because I wouldn't listen because she was 1:55:54.680 --> 1:55:56.160 on the y'all. Of y'all. Yeah, it was on the 1:55:56.240 --> 1:56:00.920 y'all to me. But but you think it's individuals. Literally 1:56:01.000 --> 1:56:03.320 at three o'clock in the morning going to the radio 1:56:03.360 --> 1:56:05.160 station to be there at five four, six o'clock show, 1:56:05.560 --> 1:56:07.480 Hi on my fucking mind. But I had another one show, 1:56:07.520 --> 1:56:09.240 so I thought, oh, this is what everybody does. But 1:56:09.320 --> 1:56:11.800 you think it's individuals that need this. You think it's 1:56:12.200 --> 1:56:16.640 it's industry white that everybody like the industry. They start 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:18.760 this is the crush that everybody needs to deal with 1:56:18.800 --> 1:56:21.160 all the social bullshit. The you don't need it to 1:56:21.240 --> 1:56:23.440 deal with because a lot of people with the industry, 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:25.680 you don't want to deal with the bullshit. So if 1:56:25.720 --> 1:56:27.240 so many people, I can look at people right now 1:56:27.520 --> 1:56:30.840 because I've come from that high ship you think you 1:56:30.960 --> 1:56:36.600 regularly Now I really can't I could tell when she's 1:56:36.680 --> 1:56:38.760 I can literally tell, because it's not even the fact 1:56:38.800 --> 1:56:41.120 that maybe they popped the field. I can feel the spirit. 1:56:44.040 --> 1:56:46.680 You can tell I need to explanation. You could just 1:56:46.720 --> 1:56:50.720 tell by their mannerisms, Like like I can look back 1:56:50.760 --> 1:56:52.480 at interviews and I can tell when I was just 1:56:52.560 --> 1:56:57.200 sitting there doing all this like business because I'm naturally fidgety, 1:56:57.200 --> 1:56:58.800 because I'm just like I have an O. C D. 1:56:58.880 --> 1:57:00.760 Like I want to dust this able off so bad. 1:57:01.640 --> 1:57:03.960 But I looked back at interviews and I could tell 1:57:04.520 --> 1:57:08.680 how aggressive, how emotionally. Yes, I had what she was 1:57:08.680 --> 1:57:12.640 a radio okay, and you all thought she was when 1:57:12.680 --> 1:57:15.560 you get the radio show. Probably so, But I didn't 1:57:15.560 --> 1:57:18.160 care because I probably was hot too. I'll expect the 1:57:18.200 --> 1:57:25.440 answer what I talks. I'm a survival domestic violence and drugs, 1:57:25.800 --> 1:57:28.040 the things that I grew up in a Christian household. 1:57:28.040 --> 1:57:30.640 My dad's a bishop, my mom's an Avengers. So everything 1:57:30.760 --> 1:57:33.680 that they were against I became. But I had to 1:57:33.800 --> 1:57:35.400 draw the line because I have children. I don't want 1:57:35.440 --> 1:57:37.640 them to come back. My kids can read. My five 1:57:37.720 --> 1:57:39.600 year old reads on the sixth grade reading level from 1:57:39.680 --> 1:57:41.520 all right, So what was it? What was the moment 1:57:42.120 --> 1:57:45.720 where you was like, this is it for me? Um, 1:57:46.040 --> 1:57:48.400 don't tell me marriage? Boucan Now. I was after that 1:57:48.680 --> 1:57:50.440 because before I already knew I had to make a 1:57:50.560 --> 1:57:54.560 change and I had to stop. But I remember being 1:57:54.640 --> 1:57:56.760 told I'm gonna blow your hand off and you're gonna 1:57:56.800 --> 1:57:59.240 throw you over this balcony, and everybody that I had 1:57:59.280 --> 1:58:02.720 been unding and facilitating didn't help. So I knew only 1:58:02.800 --> 1:58:04.880 one place to run, and that's where I ran, and 1:58:04.960 --> 1:58:08.480 that's when I was just like I was tired of 1:58:08.520 --> 1:58:11.800 seeing and feeling like that. And honestly, I think I 1:58:11.880 --> 1:58:15.920 was more afraid of going through the withdrawal because a 1:58:16.000 --> 1:58:19.080 period you have to go through from anything from relationship, yes, 1:58:19.240 --> 1:58:22.920 it feels like death because I've tried it before and 1:58:22.920 --> 1:58:24.160 I was like, no, I can't do this, Just get 1:58:24.240 --> 1:58:28.360 me a pill. But I was afraid of a withdrawal 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:32.240 and it was just like you want to die or 1:58:32.520 --> 1:58:35.040 and be selfish because you have children, or you wanna 1:58:35.640 --> 1:58:39.480 start from scratch, and started from scratch literally means starting 1:58:39.960 --> 1:58:44.440 everything over everything. So I was just like, nah, I 1:58:44.560 --> 1:58:48.240 didn't have these five children for no reason. And I 1:58:48.360 --> 1:58:50.040 know they was tired to see him because I wouldn't 1:58:50.080 --> 1:58:52.360 do stuff around up, but they could tell by my 1:58:52.480 --> 1:58:55.080 mannerisms and what was being posted online, like they can 1:58:55.120 --> 1:58:57.480 read and they can see. And when my son would 1:58:57.480 --> 1:58:58.880 come to me and stuff like look what somebody said, 1:58:58.880 --> 1:59:00.680 I would like get off the end the net. Stop. 1:59:00.960 --> 1:59:04.400 But that's all they know. Nobody watches TV. They google everything, 1:59:04.880 --> 1:59:07.800 they see everything. And I've also seen on Jason Lee 1:59:08.520 --> 1:59:11.480 show thing it's this podcast or something, and Jason Lee 1:59:11.520 --> 1:59:13.840 said he was asking you and you said that you 1:59:13.920 --> 1:59:18.000 went to a moment of depression, right, And um, I 1:59:18.120 --> 1:59:20.440 believe he said that you had to stay away from 1:59:20.520 --> 1:59:23.440 everybody at one point. Yeah, or what happened that? Then? 1:59:24.040 --> 1:59:27.400 Why did you feel like that? Because I knew that 1:59:27.640 --> 1:59:30.440 being around the industry and people it was toxic. And 1:59:30.840 --> 1:59:33.920 I'm not saying it was them, it was me because 1:59:33.920 --> 1:59:37.080 I know that when I come around and returned, and 1:59:37.640 --> 1:59:40.480 it just felt like, as my now manager says, it 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:42.680 feels like people were paying you to go to go away, 1:59:42.720 --> 1:59:44.960 And I said, what you mean about this, because it'll 1:59:45.000 --> 1:59:47.120 go from making a certain amount of night to people 1:59:47.200 --> 1:59:49.240 just trying to offer you anything, and just like, well, 1:59:49.280 --> 1:59:51.800 I'd rather get paid this this anything than do it 1:59:51.920 --> 1:59:56.200 for free. And it's just like, nah, I ain't nah, like, 1:59:56.440 --> 2:00:00.040 don't play with me, especially not now, and people I 2:00:00.080 --> 2:00:02.760 thought that they could play with me, even recently. And 2:00:03.040 --> 2:00:04.600 that's where I say it was a test to see 2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:07.160 if you're fall for the oaky dope or if you're 2:00:07.200 --> 2:00:09.200 fall for the bullshit, or if you're gonna stand on 2:00:09.320 --> 2:00:11.880 what you're saying. You came back to do and I 2:00:11.960 --> 2:00:14.520 had to stand firm or even things that I think 2:00:14.560 --> 2:00:18.720 would have pushed me to a higher visible position because 2:00:18.760 --> 2:00:20.640 everything now was about the lifestyle and they want to 2:00:20.680 --> 2:00:22.560 see you with the bus now rolling, They want to 2:00:22.560 --> 2:00:24.760 see what the aps they want to But I was flying. 2:00:25.160 --> 2:00:27.280 We was flying on Leo Cohen's jet in ninety nine. 2:00:28.000 --> 2:00:29.520 So when I see people and just I'm like, damn, 2:00:29.600 --> 2:00:31.560 I did that and I wasn't even you feel me. 2:00:31.920 --> 2:00:33.400 We had the bust that people who stole all the 2:00:33.520 --> 2:00:35.720 rings in the jury, Like I've been there, done that, 2:00:35.880 --> 2:00:37.360 So that stuff doesn't impress me. But I get it 2:00:37.440 --> 2:00:40.040 my kids, I get it. Kids are impressionable. So it's 2:00:40.080 --> 2:00:43.160 just like now I have to reintroduce a different glow 2:00:43.600 --> 2:00:45.520 so you might not see me with oh, or I 2:00:45.640 --> 2:00:47.280 had the grills I had and all of that I 2:00:47.360 --> 2:00:50.040 did that. Now the glow that has to be translution 2:00:50.080 --> 2:00:52.720 that people that will respect is the one from within. 2:00:53.280 --> 2:00:54.760 So when somebody say, oh, we want you to be 2:00:54.840 --> 2:00:56.480 on this TV show for twenty five the funk out 2:00:56.520 --> 2:00:59.080 in my my mortgage alone, I was told, don't step 2:00:59.080 --> 2:01:02.480 out your house. You can pay mortgage for since months period. 2:01:03.640 --> 2:01:07.840 Don't play with with, don't play with shout out the 2:01:07.960 --> 2:01:12.720 Organic Food Kings. Incredible. We got the truck outside at 2:01:12.920 --> 2:01:16.080 Organic Food Kings. Make sure you check them out. We're 2:01:16.080 --> 2:01:17.800 gonna be eating them all the time right now? Do 2:01:17.920 --> 2:01:21.040 you do you agreetum? Would you regret anything in life, like, 2:01:21.440 --> 2:01:23.960 especially when it comes to entertainment, not even your personal 2:01:24.120 --> 2:01:28.440 just entertainment. I have no regrets. I have some reservations 2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:30.960 on things that I said and I did, and I 2:01:31.040 --> 2:01:34.440 always felt that, oh that's who I am, but honestly 2:01:34.520 --> 2:01:36.920 that's not how I was raised. So the fact that 2:01:36.960 --> 2:01:39.000 I get a second chance to revisit and people are 2:01:39.040 --> 2:01:42.040 just like, we believe you more, all right, Because when 2:01:42.080 --> 2:01:43.920 you don't realize who you are and people come to 2:01:44.040 --> 2:01:46.480 be like, but do you see what the is going on? Like? 2:01:46.560 --> 2:01:48.200 Why are you letting this happen? I'm like, my your 2:01:48.240 --> 2:01:52.480 fucking business, that's me. It's just like when you realize 2:01:53.880 --> 2:01:55.840 I don't regret anything. I wish I would have did 2:01:55.920 --> 2:01:59.280 things differently, but I wouldn't have got married three times. 2:02:00.880 --> 2:02:03.400 I should not have did that. I've let people in 2:02:03.560 --> 2:02:06.440 my circle, in my personal and in my spirit that 2:02:06.480 --> 2:02:10.680 I shouldn't even you think these men took advantage? Are 2:02:10.720 --> 2:02:19.280 you totally? Because Google nothing pops up but my name. 2:02:20.800 --> 2:02:22.960 So now when I see people like old nickas Baby Mama's, 2:02:23.080 --> 2:02:25.280 I was like, yeah, bo, look who they associated with. 2:02:25.680 --> 2:02:27.640 So how I'm on tour? I told with jay Z, 2:02:27.920 --> 2:02:30.280 I told fifty Cent, I told Miss l A, I 2:02:30.400 --> 2:02:33.440 told with y'all Rule Grand Stages, would Keith Sweat and 2:02:33.560 --> 2:02:36.280 Payla Bell, Joe LeVert, I've been on Jimmy Kimmel, I 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:38.520 was on Jay Leno. I rocked all these shows before 2:02:38.560 --> 2:02:42.640 they were How the fuck is you over there with y'all? 2:02:43.040 --> 2:02:51.760 From the y'all from the y'all men y'all? So who's 2:02:51.760 --> 2:02:54.240 your favorite part of the game? Is it making the 2:02:54.400 --> 2:02:59.080 music or performing the music? Performing? I hate the studio. 2:03:00.280 --> 2:03:03.680 I feel so closed and I feel so stuck, and 2:03:03.760 --> 2:03:06.800 then I'll always go out and listen and I know that, 2:03:07.000 --> 2:03:08.560 oh you don't have to overdo it no more. You 2:03:08.600 --> 2:03:10.640 don't have to oversing but live, you can give it 2:03:10.720 --> 2:03:13.920 your all. So I really wish that I could sing 2:03:14.040 --> 2:03:16.680 songs live and then people know them because I hate 2:03:16.680 --> 2:03:19.560 the city and the energy you get from the WHOA, 2:03:19.640 --> 2:03:21.720 why would you hate the studio? I don't think I've 2:03:21.840 --> 2:03:24.200 ever heard. I hate being in the booth. I hate 2:03:24.240 --> 2:03:27.000 when the headphone like the studio I work out on 2:03:27.160 --> 2:03:29.080 One day, somebody broke the headphones that I'm used to, 2:03:29.200 --> 2:03:31.160 so when I had to use some new headphones, people 2:03:31.320 --> 2:03:34.600 might think that I'm just like, nah, I just know 2:03:34.720 --> 2:03:38.600 what I want to hear, clutching my ears a certain way. 2:03:38.680 --> 2:03:41.160 I'm just used to it. So I realized that maybe 2:03:41.160 --> 2:03:43.160 I need to to take the bus headphones out. I mean, 2:03:43.200 --> 2:03:46.720 but I bust like seven headphones all the time because 2:03:47.800 --> 2:03:51.640 all the way, So people be like, how do you 2:03:51.720 --> 2:03:53.360 listen to it so loud? You saying, I'm like, I 2:03:53.400 --> 2:03:55.880 just want to hear it loud. I want to like, 2:03:56.520 --> 2:03:58.080 I don't know why I have it up, So maybe 2:03:58.080 --> 2:03:59.440 I want to step back from the mic because we 2:03:59.480 --> 2:04:01.960 can hear leading in I'm like, oh, well, you figure 2:04:01.960 --> 2:04:07.880 it out that to do with me. Hello, wow, No, 2:04:08.160 --> 2:04:13.000 just election, even though it was weird, it was yeah 2:04:13.760 --> 2:04:22.560 ye wow wow yeah. And you have a podcast as well. Right, well, 2:04:22.600 --> 2:04:24.800 I did the podcast like two years ago and I 2:04:24.920 --> 2:04:28.080 was traveling to New York. I actually had the little motion. 2:04:28.160 --> 2:04:30.440 We was running right above Medicine Square Gardeners. It was 2:04:30.480 --> 2:04:34.000 like a little situation was, um, I forgot the station 2:04:34.080 --> 2:04:36.520 that was over there. They had a nice room, was 2:04:36.560 --> 2:04:38.920 like a stage and everything. So I was doing a 2:04:39.080 --> 2:04:44.080 podcast and I just realized, like the artist side, you 2:04:44.240 --> 2:04:46.640 have to like pick a side with R and B 2:04:47.360 --> 2:04:50.240 because when you're doing interviews and you have to discuss 2:04:50.680 --> 2:04:53.840 uh current events and when somebody do something crazy and 2:04:53.920 --> 2:04:56.040 you have to talk about it, people think that you hate. 2:04:56.040 --> 2:04:57.480 And I'm just like I literally used to have to 2:04:57.520 --> 2:04:59.440 tell artists will stop doing dumb ship and we don't 2:04:59.480 --> 2:05:03.480 have to report so because I really have to focus 2:05:03.640 --> 2:05:06.280 on my craft and my glow. It's just like I'll 2:05:06.440 --> 2:05:09.600 do the podcast where like everybody has a podcast. Now 2:05:10.800 --> 2:05:12.680 everybody's podcast, and I'll be like there's some people I 2:05:12.800 --> 2:05:15.200 be like, don't nobody. Then you gotta say, like people 2:05:15.280 --> 2:05:16.800 just think you get on the took. They don't realize 2:05:16.840 --> 2:05:20.320 this production is you have to stay current content everything. 2:05:20.600 --> 2:05:22.680 But I learned that from radio. So I literally came 2:05:22.720 --> 2:05:26.080 from Major and learned everything from the artist side to 2:05:26.680 --> 2:05:28.800 the radio side. Yeah, so it's like now I know 2:05:28.920 --> 2:05:30.520 how to rock it. So once I do my show 2:05:30.680 --> 2:05:32.840 this time, I think it would be through the roof 2:05:32.880 --> 2:05:35.760 because I got the friendships and the relationships where I 2:05:35.800 --> 2:05:38.200 could call anybody be on. But you gotta make sure 2:05:38.280 --> 2:05:41.080 people care. And did you like the reality TV when 2:05:41.120 --> 2:05:44.960 you did it? I did. But at the same time, 2:05:45.040 --> 2:05:48.560 it's just like I know that the higher ups have 2:05:48.640 --> 2:05:51.360 their favorites. He've be like, well they you know these episodes, 2:05:51.400 --> 2:05:53.560 and I don't know what see. I'm a part of that. 2:05:53.840 --> 2:05:55.760 I'm a part of the industry, but I'm also part 2:05:55.800 --> 2:05:58.560 of the don't care society, So they'll be showing stuff 2:05:58.600 --> 2:06:00.600 on to you, like don't nobody care? Like what did 2:06:00.600 --> 2:06:02.400 you think? Nobody who care about? Right now? Every do 2:06:02.480 --> 2:06:04.480 you want to care about? Foolishness? Like if you're artists, 2:06:04.480 --> 2:06:10.760 they just want to hear you sing. People just I 2:06:10.920 --> 2:06:13.360 just look at the show you hate right now. I 2:06:13.400 --> 2:06:16.960 don't even watch TV. The last I watched movies, I 2:06:17.040 --> 2:06:20.600 watched movies. Okay, what's what's a good movie? I just 2:06:20.680 --> 2:06:25.680 watched the movie. It was at what was called I 2:06:25.720 --> 2:06:28.680 Saw the Devil and it's totally in It's Japanese but 2:06:28.760 --> 2:06:33.480 they have the subtitles. Yeah, maybe like he was, he 2:06:33.640 --> 2:06:37.120 was not a canible. He was dismembering people, but he 2:06:37.160 --> 2:06:39.120 wanted to be caught, but they couldn't catch him. And 2:06:39.200 --> 2:06:43.360 he killed the FBI Japanese FBI agents. Uh fiance and 2:06:43.480 --> 2:06:46.720 she was pregnant, so he started killing ship. She was training. 2:06:48.360 --> 2:06:54.000 What's that ship? Um um? Not hard boy, you hard boil, 2:06:55.920 --> 2:07:00.879 hard boil. I watched The Family guy, watched Total Comedy. 2:07:01.600 --> 2:07:04.680 Sat tired. Okay, it was a great comedy movie. You 2:07:04.800 --> 2:07:09.880 like Stepbrothers. Yeah. Me and my son were watching The 2:07:10.520 --> 2:07:19.400 Holy and like we'll go place. My son went to 2:07:20.320 --> 2:07:24.080 something one day, he went to up. He went to 2:07:24.360 --> 2:07:28.760 he started football workout and they was just like yo, 2:07:29.120 --> 2:07:30.720 just they tld my son just they was like, you 2:07:30.800 --> 2:07:32.560 missed three passions, you trash. She was like, well that 2:07:32.640 --> 2:07:37.960 guy was a rip off. My son is hilarious. He 2:07:38.040 --> 2:07:39.800 said stuff around me. I'm just like, I don't know 2:07:39.880 --> 2:07:41.960 if a son should be saying to a parent like 2:07:42.040 --> 2:07:44.640 he'd be like, Mom, yesterday was so hot, it was 2:07:44.720 --> 2:07:47.960 hot as tips outside. What son says that to their 2:07:48.080 --> 2:07:51.200 money getting a lot of money because he's raised right, 2:07:52.120 --> 2:07:54.640 Because no real hood kid is saying it's hot as 2:07:54.720 --> 2:08:01.800 tips outside. I've never life said that that word in 2:08:01.880 --> 2:08:03.680 front of my mother, and I've grown to this day 2:08:03.720 --> 2:08:06.840 I'll be like, I'll say boobs, but I'm like, oh, 2:08:06.920 --> 2:08:09.800 my kids. Really the worst things he could be saying. Yeah, 2:08:10.200 --> 2:08:12.400 the stuff that my son says and the thing he's watching. 2:08:13.240 --> 2:08:15.160 If he's like from the hood in the hood, even 2:08:15.440 --> 2:08:16.960 as hot as right is allan and that's not a 2:08:17.000 --> 2:08:23.400 good thing. My five year old when he u he 2:08:23.560 --> 2:08:25.920 just got out of kindergarten, so they did have virtual 2:08:26.000 --> 2:08:27.720 and then they left them in for four days a week. 2:08:27.920 --> 2:08:30.360 The last day of school, he was like, yes, it's 2:08:30.400 --> 2:08:32.760 gonna be a hot summer. It's lyddy as a titty. 2:08:33.440 --> 2:08:39.760 I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna smacking away from me as Okay. Now, 2:08:41.360 --> 2:08:46.160 they just announced Bobby Brown against keep Swam. Yeah tomorrow, 2:08:46.320 --> 2:08:51.160 well July first, July one, so this is this is 2:08:51.280 --> 2:08:54.840 this would be out next week, so this had already happened. Ye, 2:08:55.120 --> 2:08:58.040 who did you pay back to the future Okay. So 2:08:58.720 --> 2:09:00.880 because I've worked with both, I haven't done this your 2:09:00.880 --> 2:09:05.680 Bobby Brown. Yeah, I keep sweat, So that's automatically my pick. 2:09:06.440 --> 2:09:08.800 You're gonna go against my prerogative, Well, let me tell 2:09:08.840 --> 2:09:12.360 you something. Wait, new edition gonna be there. No, no, 2:09:12.440 --> 2:09:16.280 I'm just staying the bag. But they both worked with 2:09:16.360 --> 2:09:19.640 Teddy Riley, So honestly, this is really Teddy versus himself. 2:09:19.720 --> 2:09:21.360 Are we taking a shot? Are we taking the shot? 2:09:22.760 --> 2:09:24.920 Let's take a shot. I don't know where you're going 2:09:25.000 --> 2:09:27.240 with this because I was just like with Bobby Brown. 2:09:27.880 --> 2:09:31.560 He was the original bad boy. So my my brother 2:09:33.400 --> 2:09:35.680 three thousand times, no, my brother got a work one 2:09:35.720 --> 2:09:41.960 time when when my karaget came out, my brother was dancember. 2:09:41.960 --> 2:09:44.600 When our Send Your Hall was out, my brother used 2:09:44.600 --> 2:09:46.160 to be dancing and we were supposed to be in 2:09:46.240 --> 2:09:51.400 bad because my brother's finger. Yeah, and my brother dance 2:09:51.480 --> 2:09:53.720 and paragetive and he got a whip and my dad 2:09:53.840 --> 2:09:57.360 was like, I told you to go to bed and 2:09:57.720 --> 2:10:00.840 stop Bobby Brownie. So when that he used to punk 2:10:00.880 --> 2:10:02.720 and dance like the R and B singers used to, 2:10:03.200 --> 2:10:05.200 my dad said stop Bobby Brown and he was like 2:10:05.280 --> 2:10:09.960 that was inappropriate. So homies. Why y'all gotta dance Bobby Browning, 2:10:10.400 --> 2:10:12.800 I would like to learn that Bobby brown Why didn't 2:10:12.800 --> 2:10:16.240 do this now that we need brown You don't I 2:10:16.280 --> 2:10:18.080 want the Bobby. But the R and B singers used 2:10:18.080 --> 2:10:26.600 to go like this, This Bobby Bobby was the original 2:10:26.640 --> 2:10:28.320 bad boy. So he can't watch you. We watch you 2:10:28.480 --> 2:10:33.720 because we gotta drive you gotta relax. Yeah, you like 2:10:37.240 --> 2:10:44.880 do all this pandemic everything. You're a motherfucking about giving 2:10:45.040 --> 2:10:49.880 artists the flowers, and you deserve your flowers. You have 2:10:50.080 --> 2:10:52.760 always been there. I've never seen you, you know, with 2:10:52.920 --> 2:10:55.320 the sour puss face. I've always seen you happy. I've 2:10:55.320 --> 2:10:59.240 always seen you you didd working, busting your ass, and 2:10:59.600 --> 2:11:01.840 you just serve to be there. You deserve to be 2:11:01.960 --> 2:11:03.840 the legend that you are, and we want to tell 2:11:03.880 --> 2:11:05.960 you to this space we invented giving people the flowers. 2:11:05.960 --> 2:11:09.400 I don't know if you know. Everyone's saying, I don't know, 2:11:09.520 --> 2:11:12.360 it's real talk. Everyone's saying that now. But we did 2:11:12.480 --> 2:11:15.320 this right here in the same exact place we said 2:11:15.360 --> 2:11:18.280 that we didn't want to interview the new artists, not 2:11:18.360 --> 2:11:20.240 because we don't got love for the new artists what 2:11:20.360 --> 2:11:22.440 we do, but they have the Hot Lady sevens, they 2:11:22.480 --> 2:11:24.760 have the Power one of fives, they have these all 2:11:24.840 --> 2:11:27.040 other outlets. Where's the outlets for the people who've been 2:11:27.080 --> 2:11:28.920 here ten years and more of the seasons and that 2:11:29.080 --> 2:11:31.440 still want to be here, and you know what, they 2:11:31.520 --> 2:11:33.560 deserve their flowers, And this is what we did. We 2:11:33.640 --> 2:11:35.320 don't want something to happen to you and say, oh 2:11:35.440 --> 2:11:38.160 my god, yeah, this is what they deserve. So this 2:11:38.320 --> 2:11:40.960 is what we we. We didn't it been the whole 2:11:41.000 --> 2:11:43.600 flower thing, but we invented in the hip hop saying 2:11:43.680 --> 2:11:45.960 giving the people the flowers, just in case you don't know, 2:11:46.360 --> 2:11:52.720 you deserve your motherfucking flowers, the flowers. That's you're a legend. 2:11:53.200 --> 2:11:56.920 You're um and pursuing on do you did you? Did 2:11:57.000 --> 2:12:00.480 you think that when you first started that you would 2:12:01.000 --> 2:12:06.040 survive this long? No? Because I literally used to take 2:12:06.080 --> 2:12:09.240 it for a joke, singing or you know how people 2:12:09.240 --> 2:12:11.640 who have like, oh I grew up with Barry GORDONO 2:12:11.720 --> 2:12:14.200 I grew up with I grew up in a Stevie 2:12:14.240 --> 2:12:17.160 Wonder's house, or people had that story. I never had 2:12:17.240 --> 2:12:19.640 that story. I literally moved back to you saying his 2:12:19.720 --> 2:12:22.960 eyes on the sparrow, and um, Chuck Bone told me 2:12:23.080 --> 2:12:25.720 when I because I was gonna sign to uh different 2:12:25.800 --> 2:12:27.280 labels back in the day, but the lecture was the 2:12:27.440 --> 2:12:33.560 ultimate choice. Umpire Yeah, not only that, but was there 2:12:33.720 --> 2:12:35.480 it's not a get Yeah, I was supposed to sign 2:12:35.480 --> 2:12:37.600 a Tommy Boy. It was like certain labels that I 2:12:37.680 --> 2:12:50.400 had to boy. Hello, looking at your flowers soon, man, 2:12:50.600 --> 2:12:52.360 because he did make me a lot of I had. 2:12:52.640 --> 2:12:54.600 Who was I forgot the lady's name. She brought me 2:12:54.680 --> 2:12:56.200 over there, and she was like, I think she's gonna 2:12:56.240 --> 2:12:58.920 be amazing if I hear her name. I don't remember it, 2:12:59.200 --> 2:13:02.440 not Carolyn Will. She was kind of she was heavy 2:13:02.480 --> 2:13:05.600 saying I forgot her name, but she she might have 2:13:05.760 --> 2:13:07.920 not even really work there. Hello, because you know, people 2:13:08.080 --> 2:13:11.480 used to cat but we couldn't say nothing. You couldn't google. 2:13:11.520 --> 2:13:15.480 They was the assistant, but now a lot of assistants 2:13:15.480 --> 2:13:19.720 are executives. So I've seen it. But like, just like 2:13:20.040 --> 2:13:25.440 just looking over how I got in the door, Chuck 2:13:25.560 --> 2:13:27.400 Bone told me one day, he was just like, you know, 2:13:27.480 --> 2:13:29.400 you talk a lot of ship, but for some reason, 2:13:29.400 --> 2:13:31.640 I believe you could back it up. So I don't 2:13:31.680 --> 2:13:33.560 know where it came from. I literally were going to 2:13:33.640 --> 2:13:35.680 meet and act like I already had a record there, 2:13:36.360 --> 2:13:39.360 and I just always acted as if that. I was 2:13:39.440 --> 2:13:41.680 just like I already knew what I said and sought 2:13:41.680 --> 2:13:44.560 out to do. I didn't leave home at seventeen to lose, 2:13:45.440 --> 2:13:49.960 So even though I took some hits in between, I 2:13:50.120 --> 2:13:52.120 was just like, no, I'm always I don't know, like, 2:13:52.200 --> 2:13:54.760 I don't know what game got driving motivation then, But 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:57.880 now what motivates me is my children, because I love 2:13:58.520 --> 2:14:02.120 I love my kids like the pandemic was a blessing 2:14:02.200 --> 2:14:05.240 because ever since the age of seventeen, actually before that fifteen, 2:14:05.520 --> 2:14:07.440 I've been on the road. So I didn't know what 2:14:07.520 --> 2:14:09.200 it was to sit down my ASTs down. Four year 2:14:09.240 --> 2:14:11.400 I would have a kid and within six weeks we'd 2:14:11.440 --> 2:14:12.960 be out. We've been on the road. My daughter was 2:14:13.000 --> 2:14:17.720 on a tour in Jamaica with me. She's eighteen now. 2:14:17.800 --> 2:14:19.640 But I was just like, y'all literally ain't never set 2:14:19.680 --> 2:14:21.280 my eyes down. So this year I had to take off. 2:14:21.560 --> 2:14:28.800 I got to refocus, rebrand, revisit, reglow everything everything that 2:14:28.960 --> 2:14:32.400 we didn't get a defenditive answer of Bobby or keep sweat. 2:14:32.440 --> 2:14:37.160 We didn't get a defensive answer. Okay, Bobby was the 2:14:37.320 --> 2:14:45.720 bad boy, but Keith Sweat, it's almost Likenel and then 2:14:46.040 --> 2:15:00.720 still coming home, yeah yeah, yeah, getting people. Bobby he 2:15:00.840 --> 2:15:03.600 won one of his joint Honestly, I think the safer 2:15:03.680 --> 2:15:05.800 true I've never heard. All right, I would have to 2:15:05.920 --> 2:15:08.360 choose Keep Sweat for safety reasons, right because he got 2:15:08.400 --> 2:15:11.480 to Jerry drib not even that okay, but Keep like 2:15:11.600 --> 2:15:14.000 we've never seen him. But Bobby was a bad boy. 2:15:14.080 --> 2:15:15.680 So I would hang out with Bobby, but I would 2:15:15.720 --> 2:15:18.240 ride get a rod home from Keith Sweat all because 2:15:18.240 --> 2:15:21.520 Bobby he gonna strow cocaine everywhere. See, I've never seen 2:15:21.560 --> 2:15:24.520 him do. But Bobby just used to be some print 2:15:24.560 --> 2:15:30.440 ship and because they came from Louis ship. He just said, 2:15:30.560 --> 2:15:32.800 I've read some stories about James. I was just like, yo, 2:15:32.920 --> 2:15:36.320 he was lit when they said that man who told 2:15:36.320 --> 2:15:39.280 that story? Where did I hear that? On the table 2:15:39.440 --> 2:15:44.600 he threw the cocaine at the President. He was by 2:15:44.640 --> 2:15:47.800 brown fried chicken with cocaine. Now, that's that's pretty out 2:15:47.840 --> 2:15:51.160 of control. That's like, you know, like the flower the 2:15:51.280 --> 2:15:57.880 bat weed better, but then cocaine, cocaine got you gotta 2:15:57.920 --> 2:16:07.200 be asketball. That's expensive. That's who said that's in his book. 2:16:07.480 --> 2:16:12.560 He wrote that somebody wrote it was like, I'm gonna 2:16:12.560 --> 2:16:15.240 put something I don't even know you could fry coat, 2:16:15.360 --> 2:16:18.080 and then that's crazy. Man, I'm saying you're cooking cold. 2:16:18.200 --> 2:16:24.800 That's a chicken. I wouldn't even think, like I don't Yeah, 2:16:24.880 --> 2:16:27.080 that's the hot. I don't know how I started putting 2:16:27.080 --> 2:16:30.800 it in his book, in his book. And not only that, 2:16:30.960 --> 2:16:33.000 when I met Bobby Brown a getting like the third 2:16:33.080 --> 2:16:36.160 time and I met Brown, said what's up? He said, 2:16:36.240 --> 2:16:39.440 man I performed. He said, we used to be hurting 2:16:39.480 --> 2:16:42.920 your projects. That was the most I was like, yeah, 2:16:43.120 --> 2:16:45.640 let men tell yourself. Stalking that ship because I used 2:16:45.640 --> 2:16:47.280 to live in South Side, Jamaica, so I would have 2:16:47.280 --> 2:16:48.760 to go to beauty school. So when we were pasts 2:16:48.800 --> 2:16:52.000 left Rock, I was like, damn, I want to meet Noria. Now. 2:16:52.080 --> 2:16:55.880 I used to always think like people atomic like you 2:16:56.200 --> 2:16:59.640 draw pass and Nori would be there. Would I would 2:16:59.680 --> 2:17:03.119 have been. I used to be scared because left Rank 2:17:03.280 --> 2:17:06.240 is like Iraq, So it's just like you just don't 2:17:06.280 --> 2:17:12.200 go from Jamaica States where eventually moved to States. Yes, yeah, 2:17:12.280 --> 2:17:16.600 it's very rich, you're very rich. Yes, hold the buildings. 2:17:17.240 --> 2:17:19.320 So the building I lived in like, what the dad? 2:17:19.520 --> 2:17:21.720 So he owns it now, but it's just like damn 2:17:21.879 --> 2:17:25.640 like and you can't get out those contracts. I'm probably 2:17:25.640 --> 2:17:31.279 stilling it today. So when you overall the music industry, 2:17:31.400 --> 2:17:35.880 overall entertainment, what does your overall look at it? Like 2:17:36.440 --> 2:17:40.000 you happy, you satisfy? Are you sure that you luck 2:17:40.120 --> 2:17:43.000 you you feel great that you participated? Or this is 2:17:43.200 --> 2:17:44.800 something that if you had a chance to do it 2:17:44.879 --> 2:17:48.680 all over you would pick a different career. No, I would. 2:17:49.280 --> 2:17:52.120 This is the only job I've never worked at FedEx 2:17:53.280 --> 2:17:56.400 only I went to The most I've ever done was 2:17:56.520 --> 2:17:58.240 went to hair school. So this is all I know. 2:17:59.160 --> 2:18:02.520 So honestly, I think I would have stayed more. I 2:18:02.560 --> 2:18:05.400 would have student more firm. And I've never been associated 2:18:05.400 --> 2:18:07.960 now I have a team. I just always been associated 2:18:08.000 --> 2:18:09.760 with people, so I was never I was always torn 2:18:09.840 --> 2:18:11.760 with Murdering, but I wasn't never signed to them. I 2:18:11.840 --> 2:18:13.440 was torn with Missy, but I was never signed to 2:18:13.800 --> 2:18:15.200 I went on the Rock the Mic tour, but I 2:18:15.280 --> 2:18:17.360 wasn't signed the jay like the people that made the 2:18:17.400 --> 2:18:19.119 calls and be like, yo, we want you to run around. 2:18:19.520 --> 2:18:21.560 So it's just like I was never I was always 2:18:21.600 --> 2:18:24.840 affiliating associated with things, but I never had anything for myself. 2:18:25.200 --> 2:18:27.080 So now that I have a chance to rebrand, I 2:18:27.120 --> 2:18:29.119 wish I would have done it sooner because I think 2:18:29.160 --> 2:18:32.600 I would be yummy. I would own everything because I 2:18:32.720 --> 2:18:34.640 know the way I think, but I would put people 2:18:34.680 --> 2:18:37.080 in positions to pass me. But I'm not doing that 2:18:37.160 --> 2:18:40.080 no more, and I think that I should have done 2:18:40.080 --> 2:18:42.640 it sooner. But I get it. I didn't know the game. 2:18:42.680 --> 2:18:45.680 I didn't have the management. Yeah, Like I was literally 2:18:45.760 --> 2:18:47.720 doing a lot of things by myself. It felt like 2:18:47.800 --> 2:18:49.760 I was paying people to be my friends and to 2:18:49.840 --> 2:18:52.960 be around, so they would be management. It would be 2:18:53.040 --> 2:18:55.240 certain things. But I'm just like, wait a minute, like 2:18:55.760 --> 2:18:59.280 it just it just wasn't right. So I really thought 2:18:59.320 --> 2:19:01.760 it was the inertainment industry, so I was thoroughly and 2:19:01.879 --> 2:19:05.520 highly entertained. But it's the music business. So I did 2:19:05.600 --> 2:19:07.840 the music, but I didn't handle the business. So now 2:19:07.879 --> 2:19:09.280 have a chance to get it right. That's why I'm 2:19:09.320 --> 2:19:11.560 just like, I'm back for my second goal. Like you, 2:19:11.959 --> 2:19:13.920 nobody can't kick me at it. And I've never only 2:19:13.920 --> 2:19:15.840 think I've been kicked out was high school and they 2:19:15.879 --> 2:19:20.840 had to let me back in calling yes call, that's 2:19:20.879 --> 2:19:27.000 the brod answer because it's still the daytime. Okay, were 2:19:29.160 --> 2:19:31.280 let's see, But so what happened? So what happened when 2:19:31.280 --> 2:19:34.039 you heard that this versus battle between me and BBC? 2:19:34.240 --> 2:19:38.880 Where was at um? I was literally peeking on Instagram 2:19:39.320 --> 2:19:42.959 and I saw it peeking and I saw you running 2:19:43.360 --> 2:19:46.680 in like a sweatsuit, and I saw you post I 2:19:46.720 --> 2:19:48.840 saw him posting up beings just like Yo Norri, and 2:19:48.879 --> 2:19:51.280 I was just like, see me and Beans go way 2:19:51.320 --> 2:19:53.320 back like years. We did park a lot of people 2:19:53.400 --> 2:19:55.279 with jay Z together, so that was a great experience. 2:19:55.560 --> 2:19:57.160 He shot a video, I did the song if you 2:19:57.200 --> 2:20:02.800 want to f I used to visit that Halfwayhouse, Like 2:20:03.360 --> 2:20:06.520 that's family, so much like I hate when I have 2:20:06.640 --> 2:20:09.760 to because friends are family that you're not related to, 2:20:10.120 --> 2:20:12.800 and in his family that you're not even blood related to. 2:20:13.040 --> 2:20:15.400 But like I used to visit him at the Halfway House, 2:20:16.000 --> 2:20:19.200 and there's times that he saved my life, so I 2:20:19.280 --> 2:20:23.480 had to like kind of just like it's just like 2:20:23.760 --> 2:20:25.440 I've never heard this when people just tell you get 2:20:25.480 --> 2:20:28.320 off the streets. Why he was in the streets, Dad, 2:20:28.360 --> 2:20:33.680 Hevy that used to be like Bean Easy the boy 2:20:33.800 --> 2:20:37.600 street Polly had to tell you to get off the streets. Well, 2:20:37.680 --> 2:20:41.240 I had to tell what it wasn't not like no 2:20:41.360 --> 2:20:44.600 no running around like hanging up like I'm sad like 2:20:45.040 --> 2:20:47.640 and he had to say he basically tell my people 2:20:47.760 --> 2:20:49.760 is just like yo, like that's dope what you did 2:20:49.840 --> 2:20:52.520 with mom, Like my people literally came home. It was 2:20:52.600 --> 2:20:54.879 just like I don't like what people saying behind the scenes. 2:20:55.160 --> 2:20:56.720 We gotta clean you up. And I'm like, damn is 2:20:56.760 --> 2:21:00.600 that bad? And this is being saying that to you? Well, 2:21:01.480 --> 2:21:04.640 be like because he called me little cis. So it's 2:21:04.720 --> 2:21:09.520 just like like, sis, what did you doing? Like how 2:21:09.640 --> 2:21:13.800 you go from this to like you can't you can't 2:21:13.840 --> 2:21:18.280 move like that. You're a queen, your royalty, you're a 2:21:18.400 --> 2:21:22.520 treasure in this industry, and you're a mom. Like beans 2:21:22.560 --> 2:21:24.320 has cooked dinner for me and my kids. That nig 2:21:24.480 --> 2:21:27.879 is a chef, Like he cooked stuff that he cooked 2:21:27.920 --> 2:21:30.680 seafood better than the seafood because he don't even eat seafood. 2:21:31.040 --> 2:21:33.680 So it's just like we have history. So it's just 2:21:33.879 --> 2:21:37.280 like I'm glad you mentioned nothing about music. Thank you? 2:21:37.840 --> 2:21:46.640 What no once? He once it's a rap, It's just 2:21:46.800 --> 2:21:49.200 a record call. Sometimes I want to cry and pray 2:21:49.800 --> 2:21:53.640 sometimes I'm not sure if you heard that. You know 2:21:53.680 --> 2:21:56.760 what I mean, God from Jamaica state. It's not Jamaica, 2:21:56.800 --> 2:22:01.280 you know. But I'm just like, that's gonna be a 2:22:01.360 --> 2:22:06.480 great The reason be because your personalities, Like I love 2:22:06.560 --> 2:22:09.440 that y'all. Don't just be acting weird like I'm just 2:22:09.480 --> 2:22:11.640 playing around. I'm just playing around, like I just try 2:22:11.680 --> 2:22:14.080 to gas it up because at the end of the day, 2:22:14.120 --> 2:22:17.080 I did, you know, reach out to Swiss and him. 2:22:17.600 --> 2:22:19.199 And I don't want to say they ignore me, because 2:22:19.200 --> 2:22:21.840 that's not the truth. They did, you know, acknowedged me. 2:22:21.920 --> 2:22:24.160 But they didn't. They didn't bring up Oh, I see 2:22:24.200 --> 2:22:26.560 what you are doing. I see that, you know. So 2:22:26.680 --> 2:22:28.440 I said, I figured, you know what, let let me, 2:22:28.520 --> 2:22:30.320 let me, let me help hype it up. You know 2:22:30.320 --> 2:22:32.200 what I'm saying. So this could happen because at the 2:22:32.280 --> 2:22:34.400 end of the day, Beans is my friend, Beings just 2:22:34.480 --> 2:22:36.840 my brother. But at the time when I said your beans, 2:22:36.879 --> 2:22:38.640 come outside, what I said, it's like come outside and 2:22:38.640 --> 2:22:41.440 get some money, like come outside, like like like we've 2:22:41.520 --> 2:22:43.880 been hearing about you for for or four minute. Let's 2:22:43.879 --> 2:22:46.560 come outside and let's work. And it doesn't matter like 2:22:46.600 --> 2:22:48.240 whether we do the bad or not. I want to 2:22:48.320 --> 2:22:52.840 do it. But at the end of the day, at 2:22:52.840 --> 2:22:54.600 the end of the day, when I hit you know, 2:22:54.720 --> 2:22:57.039 brothers and they and they and they don't I don't 2:22:57.080 --> 2:22:58.560 want to say that didn't hit me back, and they 2:22:58.640 --> 2:23:00.960 hit me back, but either one of them was like, 2:23:01.240 --> 2:23:04.880 what's up, let's do this. I see what's happening. And 2:23:05.440 --> 2:23:08.880 I've known I know from the you know, backside who 2:23:08.959 --> 2:23:12.119 they want me to battle like quiet as probably crept 2:23:12.520 --> 2:23:14.240 from what I heard. They was like, you know, a 2:23:14.280 --> 2:23:17.600 lot of people was leading towards me with Cameron. I 2:23:17.600 --> 2:23:20.600 don't think Cameron is gonna do it. I don't think 2:23:20.800 --> 2:23:25.000 not because you know, I think he's just you know what, 2:23:25.120 --> 2:23:27.960 I what do you want to do? So I tried this, 2:23:28.080 --> 2:23:30.960 I really, I really really tried this. I hate Pete Crack. 2:23:31.040 --> 2:23:34.560 I hit everybody, the young guns and you know I 2:23:34.600 --> 2:23:36.840 didn't hit young guns. Excuse me. I missed young guns 2:23:37.240 --> 2:23:41.320 and I hate um Bleek. And the thing is, the 2:23:41.360 --> 2:23:43.720 thing is I don't own versus, so I can't make 2:23:43.760 --> 2:23:45.640 it happen. But I did everything I could do to 2:23:45.680 --> 2:23:47.680 make it happen. I did everything I could do to 2:23:47.720 --> 2:23:50.600 make it happen. I did everything, And that's why we 2:23:50.640 --> 2:23:52.880 got Bees. I wanted to have Bees calling today. I 2:23:52.920 --> 2:23:55.119 didn't tell him my time. I didn't tell him my time. 2:23:55.200 --> 2:23:57.400 That's probably party part. I funked up everybody. We might 2:23:57.440 --> 2:23:59.440 have him here live at the show, and then we 2:23:59.560 --> 2:24:02.040 might have here live at the show to promote it 2:24:02.120 --> 2:24:03.480 some more. Because I want to go in there. I 2:24:03.480 --> 2:24:05.760 don't want to. I wanted to. I think the culture 2:24:05.840 --> 2:24:09.480 wants it. I think we want people des like I 2:24:09.640 --> 2:24:13.600 love versus but now in the popularity's contest, because I 2:24:13.760 --> 2:24:15.440 was like, who you who you want to battle? I 2:24:15.480 --> 2:24:17.360 don't want to do like how D'Angelo did me and 2:24:17.440 --> 2:24:19.520 some friends because I don't know if people know about 2:24:20.320 --> 2:24:22.720 get away with that, because everybody do you want to? 2:24:23.480 --> 2:24:25.120 I think that would have been lit with me versus her, 2:24:26.120 --> 2:24:28.720 and we would have been because because we've actually toured 2:24:28.760 --> 2:24:33.960 together and the love is huh you wrote no, but 2:24:34.080 --> 2:24:36.440 we both work with like I work with Murder inc. 2:24:36.520 --> 2:24:39.119 And then when we felt like she carried the torch 2:24:39.640 --> 2:24:41.480 now she's getting Walk of Fames like that would have 2:24:41.560 --> 2:24:44.560 been lit. And I think of the coaraderie because we 2:24:44.720 --> 2:24:48.360 have history and like we've done shows together, like when 2:24:48.440 --> 2:24:52.840 I want to do it right, Okay, I think that 2:24:52.920 --> 2:24:55.320 would have been let's do a realistic who you think 2:24:55.840 --> 2:25:00.640 you um that didn't battle yet? Who should do versus 2:25:00.920 --> 2:25:06.120 with me? With you? Because I've wrote for a lot 2:25:06.160 --> 2:25:07.800 of people, So I would have to battle a nigga 2:25:08.840 --> 2:25:12.520 na just like we're missing. It's like, whoo, why can't 2:25:12.680 --> 2:25:15.080 battle dude? Yeah, like who says it has to be? 2:25:15.160 --> 2:25:17.800 That's a misogynistic or that's sexist to say that I 2:25:17.840 --> 2:25:19.800 have to battle another female to give me a female 2:25:19.840 --> 2:25:22.640 and a guy. You think you can give me both 2:25:22.760 --> 2:25:24.000 that and let me take a shot for that. But 2:25:24.080 --> 2:25:28.760 my cocky is jay z ship. I don't know he's 2:25:28.760 --> 2:25:33.200 not doing we shouldep R and b you and usher 2:25:34.560 --> 2:25:36.920 see I should be he would have to go against 2:25:36.920 --> 2:25:39.680 a chrisp Bar. It's almost like when I came out, 2:25:40.520 --> 2:25:43.760 I was doing what I did, so people came before me, 2:25:43.840 --> 2:25:45.560 but then they were people that came after me. So 2:25:45.680 --> 2:25:48.600 you can't battle who came after you. You feel I 2:25:48.760 --> 2:25:52.720 was doing wrap hooks. I was literally more hip hop. 2:25:54.320 --> 2:26:00.200 Who honestly that would be a good batte that being 2:26:00.240 --> 2:26:04.040 good a battle in English? Sis? So mark, but we go. 2:26:04.280 --> 2:26:13.960 But yeah, like I saw people say you should do 2:26:14.000 --> 2:26:15.720 a battle because it was like yeah, should do you 2:26:16.040 --> 2:26:18.959 a battle with four y'all. I'm just like, no, my discography, 2:26:19.280 --> 2:26:21.080 even if you may not have heard the song, and 2:26:21.160 --> 2:26:23.560 in my fan base like don't like don't play with 2:26:23.680 --> 2:26:28.000 me like I wrote for Janet and Teddy Roley. So 2:26:28.040 --> 2:26:29.800 I have a song called girl Broker, like don't play 2:26:29.840 --> 2:26:34.640 with me. I'm not one of you could do Janet Jackson. 2:26:34.920 --> 2:26:40.680 So the song Girl I vocal produced Whitney Houston on 2:26:40.720 --> 2:26:47.000 the song. You know what I'm saying, Like, my my 2:26:47.560 --> 2:26:49.960 foundation is strong. I didn't just get in like just 2:26:50.080 --> 2:26:53.199 writing songs and then just featuring and just being around. 2:26:53.840 --> 2:26:55.760 Like I looked at my discography one day and I 2:26:55.879 --> 2:26:57.440 was just like, wow, I forgot I did that, or 2:26:57.480 --> 2:27:00.400 people will remind you to be like sis, don't never 2:27:00.520 --> 2:27:02.640 forget who you are. So now that I remember, it's 2:27:02.640 --> 2:27:04.480 not on No Cocky Ship. But it's just like I 2:27:04.640 --> 2:27:09.280 did all this by myself, Like I had Missy be like, yo, 2:27:09.640 --> 2:27:11.959 go ahead. I remember standing in the boot of Whitney 2:27:12.000 --> 2:27:14.520 Houston and she given me a Fisherman friend because I 2:27:14.640 --> 2:27:17.000 was so nervous my throat dried up and she was like, no, 2:27:17.120 --> 2:27:19.400 that I do that, do that? And I was like 2:27:19.440 --> 2:27:21.520 I don't remember what I did. I was so scared 2:27:21.600 --> 2:27:23.120 to play it back and tell Whitney Houston. What do 2:27:23.280 --> 2:27:26.280 I remember Broker reducing Jerald LeVert and he wasn't singing 2:27:26.320 --> 2:27:28.120 a note wrong and all Star telling me no, he 2:27:28.160 --> 2:27:29.360 did the no wrong. I was like, I don't want 2:27:29.400 --> 2:27:32.000 to tell him, like, I know what I've done everything. 2:27:32.040 --> 2:27:34.480 I remember working with jay Z and him telling me 2:27:34.879 --> 2:27:39.760 you want to go a tour, like, please don't discredit 2:27:40.120 --> 2:27:43.119 my backstory. Don't worry about what I was saying, you'll 2:27:43.160 --> 2:27:45.160 wah a lot of people up. They better be careful 2:27:46.280 --> 2:27:50.080 because when you see Cynthia loving or because yeah, and 2:27:50.120 --> 2:27:51.800 then I was counting. I was just like, I got 2:27:51.879 --> 2:27:56.039 twenty in the possibles, a couple of possibles because people 2:27:56.040 --> 2:27:57.280 are like, oh you know one hand was like no, 2:27:57.680 --> 2:28:00.840 like I've done features and they are so that went 2:28:01.360 --> 2:28:06.680 see everything now they think it's viral. Rachel got so spancial, 2:28:06.720 --> 2:28:09.280 so he probably would have to battle. He would have 2:28:09.360 --> 2:28:12.119 to battle another guy. I used to vocal produce him. 2:28:12.120 --> 2:28:15.760 I did work with him too. Yeah, and I remember 2:28:15.800 --> 2:28:17.160 he used to be cutting up in the student They 2:28:17.200 --> 2:28:18.600 was like, no, make him saying, I'm just like he's 2:28:18.840 --> 2:28:21.920 not gone shore. But to this day he hugged me. 2:28:22.160 --> 2:28:25.520 We did a show with Live Nation. It was the 2:28:25.560 --> 2:28:27.720 Femine Forward Tour. He was there. He he was just 2:28:27.800 --> 2:28:29.920 like yo, and I interviewed him for Ready, who was 2:28:29.920 --> 2:28:33.520 like MO, like I survived the turn up. We survived 2:28:33.640 --> 2:28:38.760 the turnop. So seeing him go through, he's still in 2:28:38.840 --> 2:28:43.400 the turnop, but he survived. He was outside and I 2:28:43.520 --> 2:28:45.480 was around when he would go to the studio and 2:28:45.959 --> 2:28:47.360 be running around and be like, oh my god. I 2:28:47.400 --> 2:28:50.600 wouldn't have to be like, come get your brother. We're 2:28:50.600 --> 2:28:55.280 gonna call Mr new Land and her dad. So I've 2:28:55.360 --> 2:28:59.400 seen him go through, but I get it. He grew 2:28:59.480 --> 2:29:01.800 up in up. A lot of people expect so much 2:29:01.879 --> 2:29:03.560 more from you when you grow up with both parents. 2:29:04.040 --> 2:29:07.240 When you're get in this industry, you're literally alone and 2:29:07.320 --> 2:29:10.000 you're finding your way. Your sisters already established, your parents 2:29:10.280 --> 2:29:14.160 are really dedicated to making sure y'all win. You rebel. 2:29:14.959 --> 2:29:18.320 I was a rebellious one, so I understood. So when 2:29:18.360 --> 2:29:20.879 I saw the list of things that he's accredited, I'm 2:29:20.920 --> 2:29:22.800 just like, don't sleep. He's not one of those. He 2:29:23.200 --> 2:29:27.600 he really has everything he said he was. He's a 2:29:27.680 --> 2:29:30.040 go get it a lot of people didn't understand that 2:29:30.080 --> 2:29:31.920 before was how you just run around you to know 2:29:32.879 --> 2:29:34.840 I was just running the rup. No, I'm not one 2:29:34.879 --> 2:29:38.119 of those. Please don't take away what God has blessed 2:29:38.160 --> 2:29:43.640 me with because tell nobody to challenge you. Honestly, I 2:29:43.680 --> 2:29:45.960 would love to do it versus how D'Angelo did bring 2:29:46.040 --> 2:29:48.400 people out because then people like, oh, I don't want 2:29:48.440 --> 2:29:52.400 to battle nobody because they go saul for sault. My 2:29:52.560 --> 2:29:55.200 catalog is extensive. I've worked with you know what I'm saying, 2:29:55.440 --> 2:29:57.360 So it's just like it might be not be something 2:29:58.879 --> 2:30:00.440 as well. Yeah, or that I said, ain't gone that 2:30:00.480 --> 2:30:02.240 you didn't know that, Oh that's me, and it'd be 2:30:02.320 --> 2:30:03.680 like a lot of people were like, I didn't know 2:30:03.720 --> 2:30:07.880 that what you're saying on that and wifey and like 2:30:07.959 --> 2:30:10.480 stuff that I've done, or that it was my know 2:30:10.560 --> 2:30:13.640 that's me singing even though that's the records. Wife will 2:30:13.720 --> 2:30:19.680 you be my wife? Yes? Wifey? Yeah? Or that I 2:30:19.879 --> 2:30:22.080 like what I did when you move up close to me. 2:30:22.879 --> 2:30:24.480 They didn't know I was. I did a lot of 2:30:24.600 --> 2:30:27.039 background work but it was safe. But I was pregnant 2:30:27.080 --> 2:30:30.440 the time, so I couldn't be in a video. Yeah, 2:30:32.920 --> 2:30:36.920 that's fine. We love that you love the baby. Who's 2:30:36.920 --> 2:30:40.640 that they was trying to they they was trying to 2:30:40.720 --> 2:30:44.400 do that Holy morning about the morning. So we're laughing direct. 2:30:44.640 --> 2:30:46.680 I don't know what's going on. I was pushing the 2:30:46.760 --> 2:30:50.600 button tell you something. I can't thank you enough. I 2:30:50.840 --> 2:30:52.240 really I want you to know that this is your 2:30:52.280 --> 2:30:56.040 platform whenever you want to come back. We got the 2:30:56.080 --> 2:31:05.400 new and want to hear sposed that's yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:31:05.440 --> 2:31:07.840 so yeah, tell us about this new record. This is 2:31:08.040 --> 2:31:09.959 because I can finally talk about it, because like once 2:31:10.000 --> 2:31:11.800 we were setting it up, it was just like one thing, 2:31:11.840 --> 2:31:13.840 I wait for the paperwork to get in. And so 2:31:13.959 --> 2:31:15.280 once I got the paperwork and I was like, I'm 2:31:15.360 --> 2:31:17.720 glad I'm getting I get to talk about Shining Star 2:31:18.040 --> 2:31:22.439 and it's new glow Um. Yeah. Coming back into this industry, 2:31:22.600 --> 2:31:24.760 you have to realize the lane you created and you 2:31:24.840 --> 2:31:26.600 have to stay in it. I'm not trying to compete 2:31:26.640 --> 2:31:28.960 with these new artists because I realized they got their 2:31:29.000 --> 2:31:31.640 own goal and they're very popular and social media. Have 2:31:31.760 --> 2:31:35.400 you been thinking that, oh bitch, you washed. But I 2:31:35.560 --> 2:31:38.600 reached out to a lot of people. Ye know, I 2:31:38.640 --> 2:31:41.400 got this record. First, I did Broken Heart, which we 2:31:41.480 --> 2:31:43.520 did during the pandemic. It came out on my birthday, 2:31:43.800 --> 2:31:45.440 but we recorded on my birthday, came out with my 2:31:45.520 --> 2:31:50.640 daughter's birthday. Independent, fully independent, the Faculty Music Group. This 2:31:50.800 --> 2:31:53.720 is my business partner's label. So it was just like, 2:31:53.879 --> 2:31:56.120 because you have to separate the artist, I have honey Chown, 2:31:56.160 --> 2:31:58.920 which like, I'm a loan out company. So when you 2:31:59.040 --> 2:32:02.240 get so when you see me, it's just like, how 2:32:02.360 --> 2:32:09.600 you have this, that's a little more at all. It 2:32:09.680 --> 2:32:11.720 was just like, so you have the hardest and you 2:32:12.440 --> 2:32:15.040 even though it's independent, it means that we do everything ourselves. 2:32:15.040 --> 2:32:18.280 So all my relationships, all my connections, now I get 2:32:18.320 --> 2:32:21.680 to maximize. People say, I've been this game for twenty years, 2:32:21.760 --> 2:32:26.040 never called nobody for favor. It was popping. Yeah, I 2:32:26.120 --> 2:32:30.080 need that. So I reached out to a couple of artists, Hey, 2:32:30.240 --> 2:32:32.480 sent you to record different records. I need you on it. 2:32:32.800 --> 2:32:37.280 And the day t Pain reached back when we sent 2:32:37.360 --> 2:32:41.000 him Shining Star was in March. He sent it back 2:32:41.240 --> 2:32:44.119 and who was the day that he announced the social media? 2:32:44.200 --> 2:32:46.320 Oh my god, I did not know that all these 2:32:46.360 --> 2:32:49.880 people whatever that day was, he emailed me when he 2:32:50.040 --> 2:32:53.240 dared me back at midnight, So I was damned. Asleep 2:32:53.400 --> 2:32:55.600 and he came up. He pay him me back. He 2:32:55.760 --> 2:32:58.760 was just like, oh my god, mo, I literally just 2:32:58.800 --> 2:33:00.680 saw this message. So me they get his cap like, 2:33:01.000 --> 2:33:02.680 oh wait, no, he did just post. I didn't know 2:33:02.760 --> 2:33:04.600 that the request because when they don't follow you, you 2:33:04.600 --> 2:33:09.320 don't get to see it even though you're verified. So 2:33:09.440 --> 2:33:11.800 he's like, I got you. I said, a lot of 2:33:11.840 --> 2:33:16.520 people said they got medst real good. I met him 2:33:16.800 --> 2:33:19.920 like almost twenty years ago. A lot of people said 2:33:19.920 --> 2:33:24.520 they had me that I had didn't get me. He 2:33:24.680 --> 2:33:27.880 had me. He sent it back and he did his 2:33:28.240 --> 2:33:30.680 I literally called my manager, was like, T said the vocals. 2:33:31.040 --> 2:33:33.119 I was on some DJ Kalish, like, oh my god, 2:33:33.160 --> 2:33:36.200 you know he said the vocals. He was like, listen, 2:33:36.480 --> 2:33:38.240 I got my record coming out. Let me get some 2:33:38.320 --> 2:33:40.520 vocal rest. And I got you. I was like, oh man, 2:33:40.520 --> 2:33:43.000 he ain't gonna send it. He sent it the session 2:33:43.040 --> 2:33:46.800 and everything, the clearest, whatever you need. I was like, Wow, 2:33:47.720 --> 2:33:50.880 people don't do that. I do that. A lot of 2:33:50.920 --> 2:33:53.560 people don't have that type of integrity. Speak to my management. 2:33:53.640 --> 2:33:55.600 That's cool. I understand that I have my people speak 2:33:55.600 --> 2:34:00.480 to your people, but they they're pussyfoot or monkey. Put 2:34:00.560 --> 2:34:03.720 you along the way was good because put it for 2:34:03.800 --> 2:34:10.160 this when you tipped, yeah, bullshit. You send me the 2:34:10.240 --> 2:34:11.840 email read in front of my email right now and 2:34:11.879 --> 2:34:14.360 they won't send it back. He sent it back. He 2:34:14.520 --> 2:34:17.200 did like I said earlier, he did his part so good. 2:34:17.240 --> 2:34:18.760 I was like, oh shiot. I didn't even think he 2:34:18.800 --> 2:34:22.760 was gonna do that much. We went and did my 2:34:22.879 --> 2:34:25.600 part over. When I say the soul is a back, 2:34:28.440 --> 2:34:34.320 it's literally better of fact, it's next week week. It's 2:34:35.040 --> 2:34:37.640 because we got a coded today. We gotta code it. 2:34:38.400 --> 2:34:40.440 It's up. I was literally just waiting on the artwork. 2:34:40.520 --> 2:34:42.600 But when fatmis Hoop sent his part, because I was like, 2:34:42.640 --> 2:34:45.800 I need you to hype up this record, like what yeah, 2:34:46.640 --> 2:34:48.320 because people haven't heard his voice in a while. He 2:34:48.400 --> 2:34:51.400 had COVID. He did his part. He was like, yo, mo, 2:34:51.879 --> 2:34:55.280 I want his doctor seppy ship the record. Don't have 2:34:57.280 --> 2:35:01.640 but the power of sending stuff via email and I'm 2:35:01.680 --> 2:35:05.360 sending it back and me sending it so scooping New York. 2:35:05.760 --> 2:35:09.960 I'm in Baltimore. I don't know where Tea Pain is. 2:35:11.720 --> 2:35:13.680 He's all over because he has his show. Plus he 2:35:13.800 --> 2:35:16.280 was working his record with Kalani. So I sent the 2:35:16.320 --> 2:35:17.840 record to l a to be mixed, sent it to 2:35:17.920 --> 2:35:20.600 somebody else to be mastered. So the power of being 2:35:20.640 --> 2:35:24.120 able to push send, and I was just like, this 2:35:24.440 --> 2:35:28.760 record Shouting Star is not only to empower women, because 2:35:28.800 --> 2:35:32.640 this is women are dominating the industry. It's also to 2:35:32.760 --> 2:35:35.160 me super woman and forever because people keep on calling 2:35:35.200 --> 2:35:38.959 me from my own ship. I'm just like, we've I've 2:35:39.040 --> 2:35:42.600 commemorated that. That's twenty years old. We celebrated that. Now 2:35:42.680 --> 2:35:46.000 it's time to celebrate the new, the glow, the vibe, 2:35:46.440 --> 2:35:49.040 the sound, the one that you love back then when people, 2:35:49.080 --> 2:35:51.320 Oh my, I grew up to your music and my 2:35:51.480 --> 2:35:53.120 mother used to play. Now you're about to grow up 2:35:53.120 --> 2:35:55.600 to this new glow. I haven't missed a beat, my 2:35:55.760 --> 2:35:57.960 voice hasn't changed. I've been through some ship I could 2:35:57.959 --> 2:35:59.920 sing about it. Broken Heart was the record we really 2:36:00.560 --> 2:36:02.960 and that's available on all streaming platforms now all my 2:36:03.080 --> 2:36:04.959 first two hours based on the Truth story, and Meet 2:36:05.080 --> 2:36:08.000 the Girl next Door finally on all streaming platforms. So 2:36:08.040 --> 2:36:11.560 I missed twenty years of streaming. Whatever year streaming came out, 2:36:11.720 --> 2:36:15.320 they just added October during the pandemic, so we're running 2:36:15.360 --> 2:36:17.440 it up. So now I'm just like now, that I 2:36:17.560 --> 2:36:19.800 have this second chance. I'm gonna put out some new 2:36:19.920 --> 2:36:23.120 music and I don't have to try to sound like 2:36:23.240 --> 2:36:26.400 everybody today. I still have my sound, but just to 2:36:26.520 --> 2:36:29.080 let people know, like I'm coming. What's that record you 2:36:29.160 --> 2:36:31.880 got when you were like, um, I think it's like 2:36:31.920 --> 2:36:34.760 at one point five million views? Thing's t O P 2:36:35.480 --> 2:36:39.520 and A something like that. When you're talking mom, I'm 2:36:39.520 --> 2:36:42.000 gonna get you can leave. Would lead a car nigger? 2:36:46.200 --> 2:36:48.720 All right, So that's that's independent as well. That's well, 2:36:48.840 --> 2:36:51.640 that was on the first album. So that's that's on 2:36:51.879 --> 2:36:55.800 all that was twenty years ago. God, I just so 2:36:56.000 --> 2:36:58.000 happened to like God preserve me for the sound of 2:36:58.040 --> 2:37:00.280 Pandemic was good. I got a lot of rest and 2:37:00.400 --> 2:37:03.920 much needed glow. And it's just like once I realized 2:37:04.000 --> 2:37:06.120 that people don't want to hear or see none of 2:37:06.200 --> 2:37:08.000 the other bullshit. They just want to hear you sing 2:37:08.080 --> 2:37:10.480 mo and they want to see me in power. Like 2:37:11.040 --> 2:37:14.200 now I realized that had the ditties and had the 2:37:14.320 --> 2:37:17.400 Jays and had them had they survived through. When the 2:37:17.480 --> 2:37:20.240 industry shifts and change, you have to put new people 2:37:20.280 --> 2:37:22.960 in position. So I see who's hot. I see the 2:37:23.080 --> 2:37:24.720 artists that are coming up from the hers to the 2:37:24.760 --> 2:37:27.880 summer walkers to the scissors. That's the that's the vibe. 2:37:27.959 --> 2:37:30.720 My daughters love Kailani. I know who they love. So 2:37:31.000 --> 2:37:35.480 I'm just like reaching out like yo, no, not with her, 2:37:36.480 --> 2:37:39.640 but just to see but see the mutual respect and 2:37:39.760 --> 2:37:42.000 to see how she came up and then then she's 2:37:42.040 --> 2:37:44.640 in position. I was just like, I respect that. And 2:37:44.760 --> 2:37:48.920 from the rappers from the Klos to the Malibu Mitches 2:37:49.440 --> 2:37:52.360 to the I got songs with them, to see I 2:37:52.440 --> 2:37:55.720 have more sons of rappers? Do I have it? But 2:37:55.800 --> 2:37:58.440 I've known him since he was bird. We used to 2:37:58.480 --> 2:38:00.240 when used to have the cutouts and my what it 2:38:00.320 --> 2:38:01.640 was like, can I have to kind of? So I 2:38:01.760 --> 2:38:03.840 respect them. I respect how you're moving. But I'm a 2:38:04.040 --> 2:38:06.000 writer too, and I'm a hardest and I'm sensitive about 2:38:06.000 --> 2:38:09.160 my ship. So it's just like, you know, I respect 2:38:09.360 --> 2:38:11.119 and people just like yo, Mo, it's good to see 2:38:11.160 --> 2:38:14.560 you still doing your thing. So to the the young 2:38:14.640 --> 2:38:16.879 artists that are coming up to the lottos like big 2:38:16.959 --> 2:38:19.680 lot of I reached out and I'm just like, yo, 2:38:19.840 --> 2:38:22.440 like I see you doing your things. I saw, yes, 2:38:22.560 --> 2:38:26.160 the rappers like they are doing that. She changed the 2:38:26.200 --> 2:38:28.560 big lot of but it's just like to see everyone 2:38:28.680 --> 2:38:32.840 doing their thing. Sam A Slim got one more question? Yea, 2:38:34.000 --> 2:38:37.640 now it's up, it's up, So where is the next 2:38:37.680 --> 2:38:41.800 for a little more. We're pushing this music because we 2:38:42.040 --> 2:38:43.960 literally before we even got here, I got a call 2:38:44.000 --> 2:38:47.400 about a reality show and to hear my managers say, 2:38:47.480 --> 2:38:50.080 they always want to dwell on the past, and people 2:38:50.120 --> 2:38:55.160 want to say shows they we want you to be 2:38:55.240 --> 2:38:58.520 on the show about heartbreaking this, but I'm past that, 2:38:59.640 --> 2:39:01.480 okay if it ain't about this new glow. Even on 2:39:01.560 --> 2:39:05.920 two shows, I literally turned down and I'm gonna say this, 2:39:06.040 --> 2:39:10.000 and this is all due respect. There shows that want 2:39:10.040 --> 2:39:14.560 to I say, salute or gift flowers. They push their 2:39:14.640 --> 2:39:16.360 movement and they want you to be a part of it, 2:39:16.680 --> 2:39:20.000 but they don't want to pay. So it's one thing 2:39:20.040 --> 2:39:22.680 to promote and the and the do sit downs. But 2:39:22.720 --> 2:39:25.160 if you want me to perform, don't tell me what 2:39:25.280 --> 2:39:27.360 your prices. You didn't even ask what my price was. 2:39:28.240 --> 2:39:31.280 The bag is out. I saw how much rappers baby 2:39:31.320 --> 2:39:33.240 mothers are gett paid. You're not gonna say, oh I 2:39:33.320 --> 2:39:35.480 got fired to what I'm gonna like? What am I 2:39:35.520 --> 2:39:38.640 gonna do with that? What cost five thousand dollars to 2:39:38.720 --> 2:39:42.720 this day. I'm not trying for a performance. You're not 2:39:42.760 --> 2:39:45.600 gonna offer me that which I'm not washed. You're gonna 2:39:46.200 --> 2:39:49.760 this is the prices that we set and you might 2:39:49.760 --> 2:39:53.600 as well pay it now or pay later, because trust me, 2:39:54.200 --> 2:39:56.640 it's about to run up. I know the game. This 2:39:56.800 --> 2:40:00.200 is chess, not checkers, So don't play with me. I'm 2:40:00.240 --> 2:40:05.080 not one of them. You're not gonna pay somebody's baby mother, 2:40:05.160 --> 2:40:07.640 they don't have no songs out to come there and drink. 2:40:08.080 --> 2:40:09.600 But then asked me to come do the same thing 2:40:09.640 --> 2:40:12.920 in saying that's a separate feet. It was a major 2:40:13.160 --> 2:40:15.040 people who try to book us. It was like, we 2:40:15.080 --> 2:40:16.840 want you to come this this, this is okay what 2:40:16.959 --> 2:40:22.520 that's all the card? So that's ten thou for this? Well, 2:40:22.680 --> 2:40:26.360 sh bitch. As soon as I grab that microphone is up. 2:40:28.879 --> 2:40:32.000 I get it. But that was a test to see 2:40:32.040 --> 2:40:35.360 if I would accept the less. No, you want greater, 2:40:36.080 --> 2:40:38.320 you gotta do greater. And I realized, now you gotta 2:40:38.360 --> 2:40:40.760 work hard now, just like I did in the beginning. 2:40:40.760 --> 2:40:42.840 It's like I'm a new artist, so people know the 2:40:42.879 --> 2:40:45.320 whole little more. But the new MO, the shining Star 2:40:45.440 --> 2:40:49.760 MO that's out. Now. You gotta push what you're promoting. 2:40:50.560 --> 2:40:53.480 You gotta respect the brand. You gotta respect the grind. 2:40:53.840 --> 2:40:57.600 You gotta respect my work, my work ethic. I don't. 2:40:57.920 --> 2:40:59.920 I just now started getting some sleep because the pandemic, 2:41:00.320 --> 2:41:03.199 but I haven't had no sleep in twenty years. Paul, 2:41:03.640 --> 2:41:06.640 like you feel with Paul Bunyan slept after this and 2:41:06.800 --> 2:41:09.480 motherfucker grew a beard because I shaved far I got here. 2:41:10.240 --> 2:41:13.720 You feel me. So it's like, I'm not sleeping and 2:41:13.800 --> 2:41:17.040 I know what my hand calls for. Nobody's gonna play 2:41:17.040 --> 2:41:20.520 in my face. So from the verses and have to 2:41:20.560 --> 2:41:22.680 be meat plus friends because I don't want to battle nobody. 2:41:22.720 --> 2:41:26.040 Because when you realize, damn, she did that. When I 2:41:26.160 --> 2:41:28.720 realized all that I've done, I've commemorated on the shows 2:41:28.760 --> 2:41:30.600 that I've done for free, the tours that I've been on, 2:41:30.920 --> 2:41:32.720 and been in the middle of the airport and be like, damn, 2:41:32.720 --> 2:41:36.720 I gotta get home, and motherfucker's cut you know, cut 2:41:36.800 --> 2:41:39.199 me off in the middle. I realized I was always 2:41:39.240 --> 2:41:41.840 out here. I had a couple of people with me, 2:41:42.440 --> 2:41:45.080 But now I have a team. You're gonna respect the team. 2:41:45.680 --> 2:41:48.600 Javante Tavis he just went. He from Baltimore. I saw 2:41:48.680 --> 2:41:50.000 him grow up as a younger, and I like what 2:41:50.120 --> 2:41:52.640 he said. We're just like you're the team, my team, 2:41:52.720 --> 2:41:55.280 stay on me. They are things I do. Why would 2:41:55.280 --> 2:41:58.400 you do that? What's that have to do with you? Deleted? 2:41:59.040 --> 2:42:01.960 Somebody may have screened but deleted. That's not you. There's 2:42:01.959 --> 2:42:05.080 a new you. You have to reinvent yourself if you 2:42:05.160 --> 2:42:07.320 want to go to the next level. I reinvented myself 2:42:07.720 --> 2:42:10.039 and people don't respect it. That damn makes some noise 2:42:10.080 --> 2:42:15.680 for that. Thank you. We can't we can't think. I 2:42:15.760 --> 2:42:17.160 feel like I'm going to close it out, but I 2:42:17.200 --> 2:42:19.320 got to close it out in the shot. Yes, five 2:42:19.320 --> 2:42:22.200 o'clock somewhere. Yeah, might as well. This is this is 2:42:22.200 --> 2:42:24.280 amazing because you're not much these shots calls because you 2:42:24.400 --> 2:42:29.280 got damn, it's fair, no expense here, drink period. You 2:42:30.080 --> 2:42:32.600 a legend. Thank you, And at first I was afraid 2:42:32.600 --> 2:42:36.600 of that title because people think legend means old season. Season. 2:42:38.480 --> 2:42:40.879 The best food in the world is when you season 2:42:40.920 --> 2:42:43.440 and you leave it over thenight period, purple heart. That 2:42:43.560 --> 2:42:51.120 season didn't been to the bullshit bees a answer. Nobody 2:42:51.120 --> 2:42:57.160 can't get bees on the phone because we're gonna take 2:42:57.200 --> 2:43:00.560 some pictures, You're gonna do some drops, and then he 2:43:00.920 --> 2:43:03.400 might walk out of the iscabibles. You never know. Is 2:43:03.760 --> 2:43:20.360 that still open? Always? Yeah? Yes. 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