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Speaker 1: we're talking about legends, we're talking about legend legends you
Speaker 1: talking about I believe came out since Nanty six been
Speaker 1: out here, monkey Foot in the game doing when she
Speaker 1: gotta do, got Hits, pawn Hits, dominated the music career,
Speaker 1: then went on, uh you know, did tours all that
Speaker 1: while being a mother, you know, holding down the mothership.
Speaker 1: Then also went and dominated reality TV. As Wow, you
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. She came a little late, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna get we gonna get straight into it o'clock. Girl,
Speaker 1: don't worry about I don't worry about what we're talking
Speaker 1: about mout So let me ask you right this big
Speaker 1: controversy that's going on right now with Trick Daddy saying that,
Speaker 1: but Yance can't tang right, I gotta start there because
Speaker 1: you being a singers singer, you're like, like, I can
Speaker 1: tell you went to church, like you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's throughout that all that. What do you what do
Speaker 1: you hear when you what do you think of when
Speaker 1: you hear people say that about the Queen Beyonce? It's
Speaker 1: the audacity for me, Like, if you don't sing, you
Speaker 1: don't have no room to tell who can't sing? If
Speaker 1: you don't like something, then you could give your opinion nobody.
Speaker 1: Because I had this honestly, I had this conversation a
Speaker 1: week ago with Trina. I was like, what you think
Speaker 1: about people automatically putting you in that because that's your people.
Speaker 1: She was like, no slander for the queen will be accepted.
Speaker 1: You feel me, it's just certain things. Beyonce is our queen,
Speaker 1: so us as singers, us as artists We have seen
Speaker 1: her pushed through since she was fourteen fifteen Rocket Hills
Speaker 1: on the Runway on the with the Celettos, dancing from
Speaker 1: group to now being a mom, to being a solo
Speaker 1: artist to flying in there. Nobody does that in music,
Speaker 1: So you're going to respect that. If you don't like
Speaker 1: the way she's saying, don't listen period. But but I
Speaker 1: believe what he was trying to say. It's like because
Speaker 1: Betty Right is like, like, um, that's like she's the vocalist.
Speaker 1: You rest in peace to her. So so is he?
Speaker 1: Is he when he thinks that? Is he comparing Betty
Speaker 1: Right to be honest? Is that's what he's doing with that?
Speaker 1: I had saw with like how he tried to He
Speaker 1: never he never backed down. He stood firm in his opinion.
Speaker 1: But he yeah, But he was trying to say, like
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston and h he named other days Anita Baker,
Speaker 1: Gladys Night, Beyonce is not that type of artist, like
Speaker 1: she can go there because she's done the movie like
Speaker 1: Ella fish Gerald, Uh, where did she do? La? Wasn't
Speaker 1: all yeah when she yeah when she sings like she
Speaker 1: could give you that. But she's all around entertainer. We've
Speaker 1: never seen Anita go up in the air and sing
Speaker 1: upside down. We've never seen Anita do the booty hop.
Speaker 1: We've never seen Whitney. Whitney can say she came straight
Speaker 1: from church and that's what she was. But from a
Speaker 1: singer's perspective, if you honestly have ever been in any
Speaker 1: of their presence, you can see they have difference. Asks
Speaker 1: like me and her don't even sound like So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who could do what you do,
Speaker 1: but you can't do what they do, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, since he does this thing,
Speaker 1: I understand his opinion. But let's just be real and
Speaker 1: let's be honest. This generation, if I ask my kids
Speaker 1: right now, my oldest is eighteen, my youngest five, have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of needy? Who that you feel me?
Speaker 1: They know who Beyonce is, They're not gonna know who
Speaker 1: a Betty Right is. So it behooves us to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is y'all Betty right? What this is my Betty Right?
Speaker 1: So honestly, yeah, it's the generation, this inneration. Don't be careous.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you all my kids don't care
Speaker 1: and then you care about me perspective, What does it
Speaker 1: take to be a real true singer? From your perspective,
Speaker 1: there's gifts and there's talents, and then there's people who
Speaker 1: just get by because like, let's just be real, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people, in my opinion, be like they
Speaker 1: can't say but I won't say it anymore. I used
Speaker 1: to say it out loud, but I realized, altot honestly
Speaker 1: save the music industry because there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who can't even up on be who can't even wrap orders.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be key because people be. You ever see
Speaker 1: people they'll sing there, they'll wrap their song and then
Speaker 1: when they get live, you're like, why is you yelling? You?
Speaker 1: But your hands up like it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But although to honestly save the music industry, the sound
Speaker 1: has changed since I came out. I started touring in
Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety one. I was still in high school,
Speaker 1: so my uncle took me on tour. So that's where
Speaker 1: I got to learn sound and tone, pitch control, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Because I'm thinking I could sing and
Speaker 1: he'll call me. He'd be like, what's that diaphragm doing?
Speaker 1: Because don't get out there just hollering. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: the technical part of singing, there's only a couple of
Speaker 1: people who get it. And it's not even your throat
Speaker 1: or your diaphragm, it's what you hear and you have
Speaker 1: to think about what you're gonna do before that sound
Speaker 1: even comes about your out your mouth. And because it
Speaker 1: was being used in studios, people was using vote quarters
Speaker 1: and stuff, which was a formal auto tune because you
Speaker 1: plug it up to a keyboard on the microphone and
Speaker 1: it actually balances out, you know, the note that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be correct sauce if you turn it off and
Speaker 1: don't documented. We were teeth pain and saying that I
Speaker 1: shall um killed the Yeah, there's actually documentary that goes
Speaker 1: with it. I am Pop and the guy who invented
Speaker 1: auto tunes on there and he said it's because he
Speaker 1: was recording his boss's wife and uh, his boss wife
Speaker 1: knew she couldn't sing, and said, I need I swear
Speaker 1: to God, I can't sing, but I wanna look like
Speaker 1: I can. And then he made auto tune for like
Speaker 1: people automatically think auto tune auto makes you sound good,
Speaker 1: It doesn't. You have to have somebody that's a skilled
Speaker 1: engineer know how to balance it up because there's melodine,
Speaker 1: there's vocal, a line, there's so many things that people
Speaker 1: just and I'm like, I use auto tune because they
Speaker 1: are Sometimes I'll be like, okay, I have a strong vibrato,
Speaker 1: so I was I don't like the then when you
Speaker 1: hear people but some people going and I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it's like pitch correct. It's auto correct. So have you
Speaker 1: type of somebody type to give you a suggestion, this
Speaker 1: is what you should use. But the blessing about what
Speaker 1: I have is that I don't need it, but I
Speaker 1: use it because I realized that the sound, but whatever
Speaker 1: they corrected to, I can still do it with my voice.
Speaker 1: That's a gift basically. Yeah, if you're just like if
Speaker 1: you have a saxophone, if you all what it's gonna do,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be squeaking. But even when you use the
Speaker 1: auto twol you never used it live because that's like
Speaker 1: a whole different skill. Yeah. I always use like reverb
Speaker 1: or a little delay live because it's something those plug
Speaker 1: ins or those things were created so you can still
Speaker 1: have that feel. Because if I'm singing in this room,
Speaker 1: the acoustics on it's gonna make you feel something. But
Speaker 1: if I'm singing in the dynamic or we're singing in
Speaker 1: the dome, the sound goes up, it's not gonna sound
Speaker 1: the same as in he So those things were created
Speaker 1: by people, by master people sitting in from the computer
Speaker 1: all days saying Okay, this is the sound I want
Speaker 1: to I want to captivate that same sound as if
Speaker 1: we're still here. So have you ever heard that there's
Speaker 1: a difference between a dry mic, a rappers mike, and
Speaker 1: the singers mike. I always tell people I do a
Speaker 1: lot of shows with rappers to this day, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't make my mic sound like a rapper mike. They
Speaker 1: don't use reverb, they don't use auto tune, they don't
Speaker 1: use delay, they don't ye period. Oh my god. So um, okay,
Speaker 1: let's think it from the beginning. Right when we google,
Speaker 1: you would say he was born in Long Island, but
Speaker 1: then you moved to bottom Are. No. I was born
Speaker 1: and raised in Long Island, between Long Island and South
Speaker 1: South Jamaica Queens. So my dad joined the military. After that,
Speaker 1: we moved to Texas, Atlanta, North Carolina Army. Okay, saw
Speaker 1: my army brat so from the like, I literally been
Speaker 1: on tour since I was thirteen, So yeah, it's been up.
Speaker 1: So that's why when I got into the music industry,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't as much change. I'm used to moving around,
Speaker 1: so I've been everywhere, not like I'll find they at.
Speaker 1: The final stop was in uh Fort Meat, Maryland, but
Speaker 1: it's right outside of Baltimore. So I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just read Baltimore and that's where I've been the longest.
Speaker 1: So New York I was like, well, I was born
Speaker 1: and raised and that's where I honestly God, I was saying,
Speaker 1: my grid and my Then I moved back to New
Speaker 1: York after that, and from there I had toward I
Speaker 1: moved back to New York to go to hair school.
Speaker 1: I was going to Long Island Beauty School. But um,
Speaker 1: I had got to call. Right before I got the
Speaker 1: call from Missy. I was on tour with Gangstar when
Speaker 1: it was when they did jazz my task just so
Speaker 1: I was to like after like from the Gang Star tour,
Speaker 1: I took over. Indeed dat I was singing, indeed death reports,
Speaker 1: but I want to trust you, baby. I was young,
Speaker 1: I was my dad side, I was outside side. So
Speaker 1: I toured that like I sang his eyes on the
Speaker 1: sparrow and keeps recipees to him his living room and
Speaker 1: he was like you want to go into I was
Speaker 1: like yeah, because he was guru when it was him
Speaker 1: in Premier. But when we did Jansitest, he was Mr
Speaker 1: Little or Keith. It's always amazing. At least the first
Speaker 1: one he did too, right, he didn't so when it
Speaker 1: did come to make it a lot of people didn't
Speaker 1: know that. You know what is like because that was
Speaker 1: like that like that was my security. Yeah. So to
Speaker 1: this day we still hit each other and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You always saying what you was gonna did.
Speaker 1: So I went overseas with them. I was hyped up,
Speaker 1: had a passport many me coming straight out of high
Speaker 1: school and hair school. Shoot, it's about seventeen. So then
Speaker 1: after that, um I started doing her bread hair in
Speaker 1: Queens and I was a valley stream more. One day
Speaker 1: I was at the Yeah yeah I got I had
Speaker 1: a beep up and that's when Missy had they had
Speaker 1: beat me from election. Was like missing wanted to call
Speaker 1: now my job still ratchet? Okay, but who what version
Speaker 1: of Missy is this, this is, this is I Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that was like ninety eight because I believe we
Speaker 1: didn't like I didn't like the flood games open, but like,
Speaker 1: what did you hear of you that she's reaching out
Speaker 1: some songs that I had reference for artists because I
Speaker 1: was getting placements. So they had like Michael Speaks a
Speaker 1: Dina Howard. It was like when they had like that,
Speaker 1: that's when you could they say to who's looking list?
Speaker 1: So it was submitting songs, but I was like, none
Speaker 1: of this motherfucker's is getting place. But then I later
Speaker 1: found out this is what one of the producers told me.
Speaker 1: They were just like, you have to dumb down your
Speaker 1: singing because you're singing too much. It's intimidated to artists.
Speaker 1: So I was only getting placements at that time, or
Speaker 1: like Gerald Leaverte and like those type of artists. So
Speaker 1: I'm a young vocal said you're doing more than the reference.
Speaker 1: He was doing the same. But I was just like yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, come with it ain't no since to
Speaker 1: me just saying that regular and then you beat me
Speaker 1: on it, and then you know, I mean because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if I do the record,
Speaker 1: it might be a chance I might have to keep
Speaker 1: it because I'm still an artist. But I wasn't signed,
Speaker 1: but I was just like I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 1: Have you ever did a record for somebody and then
Speaker 1: they did it and he was like, you wish you
Speaker 1: took it back? H Honestly, don't get away now. I
Speaker 1: recently did a record. I had to go back and
Speaker 1: do my part over because I was like my son
Speaker 1: told me, Yo, Paine got out on you on this record.
Speaker 1: You gotta go do your part over. So yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna you're Have you gave up a record to
Speaker 1: an artist and like you know, wrote for them or
Speaker 1: reference for them, and they didn't do do it to
Speaker 1: it what you wanted them to do. No. I was
Speaker 1: always the person that, hey, we gave somebody record, we
Speaker 1: want you to sing their part over. That's how I
Speaker 1: got a crop like it's a it's a whole. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's some history. It was never anything I did
Speaker 1: that because other than that, I wouldn't give it away.
Speaker 1: Like I'm real strategic and particular about songs that like
Speaker 1: you have to be those are your babies, that's that's
Speaker 1: your that's your job. So you can't just give anybody anything.
Speaker 1: It don't work like that. There are some songs I'll
Speaker 1: be like, uh that I had to vocal produce for people,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, I'm gonna just go
Speaker 1: ahead and in there and sing it for them. So
Speaker 1: that's happened. You watched the shot, I saw like a
Speaker 1: little bit of it. My mom watches it. So I
Speaker 1: don't really watch TV that much because I know you
Speaker 1: don't be you don't stay home, don't be home. It's
Speaker 1: not that, it's just like it's just so much going on.
Speaker 1: Like I'm back on my glow ship, like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to win. So unless they're calling me to be on that,
Speaker 1: I really don't. Really. That's a great show, and I
Speaker 1: know it's something that question I asked you, like, did
Speaker 1: you have a have a record and give it? Because
Speaker 1: you know what we always say. We always say that's
Speaker 1: my baby, like that's artists. We always say that's my baby.
Speaker 1: But every now and then we'll give away a record
Speaker 1: and be like, damn, that's my On the shot, this
Speaker 1: lady gave me away her baby, but then the last
Speaker 1: episode she wants a baby back. That's why I asked
Speaker 1: you that question, Okay, go back to miss here's the records.
Speaker 1: What records is shearing? Do you know? It was some
Speaker 1: references I did, and she told marylan Bob to tell
Speaker 1: me to call her. And so when I when I
Speaker 1: was finished getting my nails, I remember looking at my
Speaker 1: beep and it was a two one to them and
Speaker 1: I knew two on to mean green aggles. I was
Speaker 1: just like that. That's so I was like hello. Rick
Speaker 1: Brown was like, Marillan want to speak to you. Marillan
Speaker 1: gets on the phone. He was like, Missy wants you
Speaker 1: to call. I'm like, get the funk out here they go.
Speaker 1: I'm in Green Eggs getting my nails and why would
Speaker 1: Missy elli woman call he? He was like, you have
Speaker 1: something that you could write the number? Then we ain't
Speaker 1: have cell phones. We could just say what texted to me.
Speaker 1: So I had to find a pencil and I wrote
Speaker 1: it down at the pay phone. And so I called
Speaker 1: her from a pay phone and she was like hello,
Speaker 1: hold on. I think she might have been in her
Speaker 1: Landbow or something and she was like, let me turn
Speaker 1: this music down. She was like, hey, yo, you like
Speaker 1: do you want to go into Like what exactly do
Speaker 1: you want to do. I'm like, first of all, is
Speaker 1: this really Missy? And then after that she was like,
Speaker 1: can you come to the city today. I went to
Speaker 1: the city and the rest was history. Like literally, I
Speaker 1: was always I just always just know to be on go.
Speaker 1: And that was Missy at the Electra. She was at
Speaker 1: the Electric time and that's where you eventually got signed to. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so how does that happen? All right, you're missing going
Speaker 1: the studio ever we court record? So what is this? Okay?
Speaker 1: First I going in and I sing at Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: I think I sank saving all my love for you.
Speaker 1: Oh so you wait a wait a minute. You auditioning
Speaker 1: for miss You know what it is is because sometimes
Speaker 1: you can hear somebody on the record and be like,
Speaker 1: let me see how the sound. That's kind I'm saying
Speaker 1: because be the other sigers. Yeah. So she was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go on tour. You trying to go?
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, And I quit beauty School
Speaker 1: literally right on the spot, like them, I ain't going back.
Speaker 1: I told him I was gonna be famous. Yeah. Because
Speaker 1: now we also hold on just make sure we finished
Speaker 1: the Missy thing. But we also we've in a view
Speaker 1: people from five six almost six years. I always studied
Speaker 1: people's drinks. So you're re sling person, Yeah, because hard
Speaker 1: liquor just don't really okay, But let me stick on
Speaker 1: the racling right now because I'm ready for shot. Don't
Speaker 1: like prosecco, but no, no, no, I can't stand for
Speaker 1: a secon. I can't stand like I'm getting grown. You
Speaker 1: can't think about you with me? Ain't you no? Because
Speaker 1: I just like if I'm if I'm gonna drink something hard,
Speaker 1: I gotta go all the way. It ain't no in between.
Speaker 1: Like the other week, I drank a whole thing of
Speaker 1: Don Julie. I was hyped up. I hadn't been outside
Speaker 1: in the year. I don't even remember like I was,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even remember going through the t S
Speaker 1: a period like I was like, how did we get back?
Speaker 1: Did we have? This is a time that we praise
Speaker 1: our artists, so we have to give you a shot.
Speaker 1: What shot would you like to have? I'm about to
Speaker 1: put a recent in it, or you gotta get it.
Speaker 1: You gotta get a super woman some of the summer
Speaker 1: watermelon list. That's what I'm talking about. Something I got
Speaker 1: to listen I'm not gonna lie, and I need a
Speaker 1: bottle of water because it's a watermelon. That's watermelon. Yeah
Speaker 1: you never had it. I never had that. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, there you go. Look at that, Look at that,
Speaker 1: Look at that. We have set up. This is ladies first. Goddamnit.
Speaker 1: We got the super Woman and the god damn building.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Alright, let's got that. Like Floyd said, did
Speaker 1: they pay so? Alottle solot, Come on, that's good. But
Speaker 1: I don't like what alcohol tastes like alcohol because that
Speaker 1: makes me feel like I might have to go to
Speaker 1: your drinking choice, with your drinking choice before recently of
Speaker 1: me goes. You know, I'm not gonna lie. You keep
Speaker 1: naming the hardest calls. I'm saying. It's like you guys,
Speaker 1: gotta go all the way to the top or ain't
Speaker 1: let me just get a little up right there. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta go hard. But that cos of me goes
Speaker 1: will put you on your ass a megoes, So you
Speaker 1: have missing do y'all actually going to all from there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We went overseas the whole United States tour and we
Speaker 1: did hot Boys in that interim and the boys she
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is about to be out of here,
Speaker 1: and I believed her, she believed to me, and the
Speaker 1: rest is literally history. Then after that, like now when
Speaker 1: you was on a lecture, that's Sylvia role my lecture. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: serial roll Merlin Bob, Okay, how was that? Because, um,
Speaker 1: I've never got to I know Sylvia Rome obviously, but
Speaker 1: I've never got to work with that sense of woman power,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like even when I got
Speaker 1: to work with Mona, Mona wasn't the Mona that she
Speaker 1: is now. I worked her violator, but U yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: I know. But um, so how was that? Because I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever worked with a black woman CEO,
Speaker 1: and especially now that's going on right right now, like
Speaker 1: how we all were all proud to be like how
Speaker 1: was it? Um, you know working with that black girl? Magic? It? Okay?
Speaker 1: So me coming from not knowing the industry to being
Speaker 1: like literally placed in the upper executive hand like this, Oh,
Speaker 1: Sylvia wants to meet you with you and then I
Speaker 1: go on her office and I'm thinking I gotta sit
Speaker 1: like this. She'd be like, yo, yes she is fine,
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm like, yo, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I was thinking that the executives have
Speaker 1: to act all like stuck up like Sylvia Road. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It really was because my thoughts of the industry,
Speaker 1: and when I actually got into it, I was just like, Wow,
Speaker 1: make you feel more secure because you had a woman
Speaker 1: because she's a real black woman, Like she don't play
Speaker 1: Like I realized now what I should have realized then,
Speaker 1: like she really had my back because I was running
Speaker 1: around doing so everybody. She was like, like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Ain't your friends? You know? I gotta actually
Speaker 1: like you really had your back. At one point, you
Speaker 1: thought she didn't. I thought she didn't because people would
Speaker 1: get in my ear and say stuff like, yeah, she
Speaker 1: should be spending money. Why you only put my only
Speaker 1: putting out this song? When when are they gonna believe
Speaker 1: in you if they spent this on this, Oh because
Speaker 1: you're not light skin? Did it was all of that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yo, when you start hearing that
Speaker 1: you don't automatically, I'm like, damn, she keeps it. I
Speaker 1: keep on getting unlimited car services and she put six
Speaker 1: hundred thousands in my account. So I'm bawling right now.
Speaker 1: I was literally what years old and she sent the
Speaker 1: bag for really one thing about Sylvia, she has no
Speaker 1: like she's the one like everybody else. If you get
Speaker 1: signed to somebody else, you have to wait for the clearances.
Speaker 1: Cy say, send it over, Burper does like they sent
Speaker 1: it over between uh, Sylvia and Slim. They're the only
Speaker 1: ones that I know can literally make a phone call
Speaker 1: and the baggage with Yeah, you've got a good because
Speaker 1: a lot of people having bad stories for cash money.
Speaker 1: So you have good cash money stories. Yeah. Yes, got
Speaker 1: paid and shot like bad videos and got paid. It's
Speaker 1: like I can understand where things go. But you have
Speaker 1: to know who to. You have to know how to
Speaker 1: handle your business. You know what I'm saying. Like I
Speaker 1: was signed to them, but it was Merlin. Bob did
Speaker 1: a joint venture with them. It was called round Tape
Speaker 1: at that time. I don't remember this. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: because they were doing like side they had the cash
Speaker 1: money classes with tinam Reresid Pistoja and then they had
Speaker 1: round Table. They had other deals that was going on.
Speaker 1: So the blessing and I think the reason why I
Speaker 1: don't really have any war stories is because they respected
Speaker 1: me as an artist. Number one. Number two is it
Speaker 1: was literally right around when Katrina happened, so the label
Speaker 1: shut down anyway, so it was almost like I didn't
Speaker 1: even have to do anything but shoot videos and then
Speaker 1: they just let that company dissolved. I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't have to go through any foolish but I got
Speaker 1: to work and do shows and stuff with Wayne, so
Speaker 1: I got the benefits, worked with Mandy Fresh, got to
Speaker 1: work with Baby, so the checks was like it was
Speaker 1: running up. So I'm not mad at it, and to
Speaker 1: this day, like still the respect is dead. That's dope. Now,
Speaker 1: when I googled you, this is something that that that
Speaker 1: probably got a little crazy for me, right, not not crazy,
Speaker 1: not crazy, but it was like when I when I
Speaker 1: was got deeper, they put all of your husband's right,
Speaker 1: they put your husband's out. Husband's husband was actually the
Speaker 1: dates and the time. And I've been wondering who did
Speaker 1: get information? Who is the Wikipedia, Google god wizard of
Speaker 1: all that knows all this because it'll be something and
Speaker 1: I've been like, what, I ain't even remember that. It's
Speaker 1: somebody that big brother. Maybe it's the government defense, you
Speaker 1: know what the defenses. But yeah, I saw that tip.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's how did you feel when you've seen that.
Speaker 1: I was just like, it don't exist to me anymore,
Speaker 1: anything pre pandemic, don't exist to me anymore. I handled
Speaker 1: my business. I realized that was the top I can
Speaker 1: admit and I take full accountability of. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to separate the artists from the from the human,
Speaker 1: so the person from the from the person, so meaning yourself, yes,
Speaker 1: so little more, there's little more, and then Cynthia, there's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there was a time where I think that they
Speaker 1: messed together and that I should have never allowed that
Speaker 1: to happen. Um. I just watched Mary J Blige on
Speaker 1: My Friends show The Breakfast Club. Mary J Blige said
Speaker 1: for years she didn't know her worth, she didn't feel
Speaker 1: worth it, So how can it hasn't ever been a
Speaker 1: time where you felt like that, like really, so you
Speaker 1: could be on the cloud, you could be getting all
Speaker 1: this money, all these shows coming things, and everything is
Speaker 1: running up, but then you sit back and you're just like,
Speaker 1: I can really be just trying to give me anything,
Speaker 1: And something like that recently happened. I think those are
Speaker 1: tests because then it's just like it comes to say,
Speaker 1: let me see if we can still get you and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, nah, I used to didn't say no.
Speaker 1: I literally used to pop up to everything and oh,
Speaker 1: you know someone still having the part. I'm outside your
Speaker 1: someone so much you're singing this. I'm gonna send the vocals.
Speaker 1: But then I realized, wait, I said the vocals back
Speaker 1: that same day. Why it is taking them so longer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going a different direction. I'll be like, man, you
Speaker 1: and your direction. You feel me so? But then I
Speaker 1: realized I was literally taking things per snoop and my
Speaker 1: team literally broke down to me. That was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is business. Stop taking this so personal. So once
Speaker 1: I separated those two, that's what I know. It's up
Speaker 1: from here on. Now, Okay, we're gonna jump in a
Speaker 1: quick time and slim. You're gonna do it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do it it music. I'm just clapping this. This this
Speaker 1: is good, all right? All right? So this quick time
Speaker 1: and slim, it's called obviously it's cool, quick slip slap.
Speaker 1: All of this is. We're gonna give you a multiple choice.
Speaker 1: It's just too you just pick one or the other. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're going to pick both, you get a shot
Speaker 1: ready already you want to pick both it's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot. And we just figured out
Speaker 1: recently if you say neither too, we gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: All right, but the good things, Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to take the shot if you pick one, but if
Speaker 1: you pick both, because you sincerely mean both, then you
Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. But but the good thing about
Speaker 1: it is we're gonna take a shot. We're not gonna leave.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I feel like the number two is
Speaker 1: going to be the one. Oh my god, see you,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but you gotta chair invested that. We
Speaker 1: gotta invest in that week I'm missing. You could blow
Speaker 1: your face if you want. You know what, it's a
Speaker 1: COVID band's never let's go babiries. So you ready racist
Speaker 1: nas or j like far at no, no, no, just
Speaker 1: whatever you wand just remember if you don't, if you
Speaker 1: want to be politically back, you can take a shot. Now.
Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, okay, you gotta give me a breakdad,
Speaker 1: Like if it's the looks that everybody know not snakes
Speaker 1: weren't to you in your far as business? Ja okay, alright, cool, alright,
Speaker 1: is freaking a job or fifty as far as what Okay, ship,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that, all right, fab or Jada kiss? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's that calling? I know, mel Melah, what's It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. It just depends on the engineer, Melodon, Missy
Speaker 1: or Trina take a shot. No, I would say Missy
Speaker 1: because Trina would say Missy too, because Missy like helped
Speaker 1: a lot of us. She literally so journal truth doesn't
Speaker 1: his motherfucker? Okay, that's fire um Beyonce at least the
Speaker 1: keys Beyonce. Okay, uh ninety I mean nineties hip hip
Speaker 1: hop times two thousands hip hop? Wait? What's the two
Speaker 1: thousand hip hop? Because honestly, that's the cut off was
Speaker 1: about two thousand and three when it started again shaky
Speaker 1: because if we talk about em C like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a rocket two thousand five, then I say, because I
Speaker 1: didn't listen to the eighties, that hip hop hipot and
Speaker 1: the hibvot that really wasn't my my twist. So I
Speaker 1: would say, like when m C l D Nice and
Speaker 1: like when yeah, nineties and nineties to now, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: you you got these two. You gotta take a shot
Speaker 1: for New York or bottom are I love New York
Speaker 1: just different. Ok, you gotta take a shot for this one.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Prince like say, you have to be
Speaker 1: more specific. I'll just take a shot. But I would
Speaker 1: say Michael, yeah, because Michael used to like he wanted
Speaker 1: to do this side. He always did up to stand
Speaker 1: like Chris got something his ass out to stand out.
Speaker 1: He did. But they both go out to the point
Speaker 1: where they were telling us who was going down, and
Speaker 1: then soon after they were telling us what the real was.
Speaker 1: They were. They were more conscious than the brothers with
Speaker 1: the beads. You think about it when you're thinking about it,
Speaker 1: that they be superwoken. Yeah, you need to go to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was smart. Was Michael was telling us Earl everybody's catalogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they was like, oh, you can't do this. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna buy your whole life.
Speaker 1: He bought the Beatles cattle and the Elephant Man's balls.
Speaker 1: How do you even know there was for damn sale?
Speaker 1: How Like it wasn't no Google like elephant man balls
Speaker 1: or balls? What is that man? He had? He died
Speaker 1: in the Elephant Elephant Man in real life and Michael
Speaker 1: Carnival dude, Yeah, they said he bought it was at
Speaker 1: the house. What was it work? I'm sure he had more.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably he probably got ship my old
Speaker 1: wing like that was the one that came to was like, Michael,
Speaker 1: so we know you did thriller and we're just going
Speaker 1: over the royalties for that. But they have the elephant
Speaker 1: man balls will sell you. Think about that conversation period. Okay,
Speaker 1: I show Chris Brown Chris only because I threw that
Speaker 1: money and Usha said that about the Auto two and
Speaker 1: then used it like, oh so after I got to
Speaker 1: be so after he told he paying that note thens
Speaker 1: right here after he told he paying that he ruined music,
Speaker 1: I should use the old truth for real. This is fact.
Speaker 1: No one thing about Twitter and social media. They're pull
Speaker 1: the receipts and so they was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this you. That's when they do that. This you and
Speaker 1: oh my god, when he did let me let Me
Speaker 1: Love You down, that's all Auto too. But you never
Speaker 1: know what the engine's using on your vocals anyway. The
Speaker 1: only people that's honestly flawless. This is rare. But when
Speaker 1: you know, when you know, yeah, that record, that was
Speaker 1: definitely he knew what it was. Okay, radio or podcasts.
Speaker 1: Podcast Yeah, because radio is so political and they'd be camping.
Speaker 1: I think radio used to be hiring me just so
Speaker 1: they can fire me to say that. They because I
Speaker 1: really used to be doing nothing. We're gonna get into that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that. Okay, Farrell, Kanye, oh my god,
Speaker 1: give me a shot. Because Kanye is a master, but
Speaker 1: Farrell's a genius. He's got to explain yourself. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about Oh my god, let me drink some water. Damn,
Speaker 1: you look a little. I'm gonna do a half cut
Speaker 1: of me. That's some of watermelon. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: send me a pack that you don't go for it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear right now, Okay, hold on all right,
Speaker 1: DMX or Tupac like it's certain it's certainly yeah, because
Speaker 1: X had had an impact because I knew him in
Speaker 1: real life, so he was definitely a vibe and you
Speaker 1: could his presence is still felt. And even though I
Speaker 1: worked with Pop but never met him in real life posthumus,
Speaker 1: I got it was just like I literally started getting
Speaker 1: tattoos because I loved Tupac worked when we did shows again,
Speaker 1: just never met him. I did he did. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has like yo, if you ever get the chance to
Speaker 1: go to his house and like he has videos and
Speaker 1: footage before all that was like like really the way
Speaker 1: and I used to watch videos like he would have
Speaker 1: like videos and Nate everywhere out there golfing like like
Speaker 1: he was like filming people before it was cool. And
Speaker 1: he has documentary worthy footage of stuff and you just
Speaker 1: sit there and watching like dag, like what made you
Speaker 1: think of this? He's a freaking genius. Respect a loyal respect. Okay,
Speaker 1: I respect that, uh, Cardi b or Nicki Minad Nicki
Speaker 1: that personal No, nothing personal, nothing at all. But like
Speaker 1: if you like that's almost like saying because Nikki blazes
Speaker 1: the trail. She's she's a legend. She's been out like
Speaker 1: when you giving like how many like she's been in
Speaker 1: the game, and she's she's been through things and we
Speaker 1: got to see it and she she set a tone,
Speaker 1: she set a standard. She go, she all go. So
Speaker 1: I get it. It's honestly totally different. You've been both artists,
Speaker 1: nick and Cardi. Yeah, okay, yes, it's nicer to you.
Speaker 1: Everybody's real cool with me anyway, Nobody ever really like
Speaker 1: I met Cardi when she was still doing Love of
Speaker 1: Hip Hop. So I was doing radio that and she
Speaker 1: was like we was doing at the time. I mean
Speaker 1: not Baltimore because we was Baltimore. It was between we
Speaker 1: did Baltimore and I did d C. So at that
Speaker 1: time I think I was at k yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, um, major independent indie. But that's only because
Speaker 1: I was major before. So now what I would say,
Speaker 1: go major, learn the games, and go indie. I can
Speaker 1: get it with that, so I don't have to take
Speaker 1: no shot. Oh God Jesus like em. Like. The reason
Speaker 1: being because when I was in high school, I used
Speaker 1: to think I was like so bad. So once I
Speaker 1: met I was like yeo. I literally told I wanted
Speaker 1: to be you so bad. And the love song when
Speaker 1: you say you love me it don't you've been thinking
Speaker 1: to egantistical and just work. But what you say, I
Speaker 1: take none of this seriously and that's when we stipp
Speaker 1: the right out the world. You couldn't google it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like empt like that's honestly one of my biggest this one.
Speaker 1: I don't know this is up in the end, all right,
Speaker 1: Kim or Foxy, honestly hold your shot. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: it anyway. Yeah, because I'm a person, I go by
Speaker 1: my own opinion, and I would. I would, honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take my shot because I'm gonna say both because
Speaker 1: had it not been for them, there would not be
Speaker 1: a lot of females that are doing with it. Like
Speaker 1: what Kim did, the crouching posted people. Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she broke down barriers. That was that was like there
Speaker 1: was a no no back then, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're trying to do She broke down barriers when she
Speaker 1: had her booball at the MTV Awards Mesa Stalda. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. This is course a controversy. It's always controversial
Speaker 1: when a black woman does it, but it's so chic
Speaker 1: and cool and acceptable when other races do it. So
Speaker 1: she broke down racial barriers that we wasn't doing. Foxy
Speaker 1: was spitting like a nigger when she came out. Girls
Speaker 1: wasn't spitting like that. Like I go back and listen
Speaker 1: to her over she was going to win. So I
Speaker 1: respect that she was in high school. Goddamnken for that,
Speaker 1: God damn South. So you gotta respect it. Let's tell
Speaker 1: us something right must be admitted in the game, right.
Speaker 1: I had Tyler Quality stand here. I was sitting the
Speaker 1: same chair that you're sitting in. Ty Live said to
Speaker 1: me one time, he said, sometimes we're male privileged, And
Speaker 1: I had never heard of that. He's had male privileged
Speaker 1: and he said, mal, well, basically what male privileges we
Speaker 1: don't understand sometimes what the sisters go through. We don't
Speaker 1: understand what women go through and hip hop and the
Speaker 1: music business and entertainment period. So can you shot something
Speaker 1: light on people? Like, let's just say we're just coming
Speaker 1: under a rock. We don't know nothing. What are some
Speaker 1: of the things that you're gonna have to face as
Speaker 1: a female in this entertainment. First of all, if I
Speaker 1: would have came here and I had a makeup on,
Speaker 1: it's just anything. If I would have came here, my
Speaker 1: nails wasn't done, or at least dress night. This just
Speaker 1: wore anything, really like, so it's a standard. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I just think that literally wore anything today, literally literally
Speaker 1: literally literally did that. So I'm sorry, holy ship y'all,
Speaker 1: but really, women, we as a as a black woman,
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you judged all day
Speaker 1: like you can't go to if you can't go to
Speaker 1: Dwayne Weed without Well, thank god for the mass mandate,
Speaker 1: because if we don't have to wear masks, they would
Speaker 1: expect you to wear a full beat and be slain
Speaker 1: and snatched. The whole pandemic like in the airport, how
Speaker 1: they made the whole bonnet controversy. That's the wind rags
Speaker 1: all the time. It's not for a female, do rag?
Speaker 1: You mean? Sometimes I run out with my bond and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, I forgot, but I
Speaker 1: don't want my edges to be laid. Like literally before
Speaker 1: I pulled up, I took my star for because I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I go in there with this one, if somebody
Speaker 1: sneak a picture, they go out this a bit just anything.
Speaker 1: So people just say whatever they want about females. Males
Speaker 1: have the privilege they don't have to go to sound
Speaker 1: check I'm pretty, and they're not allowed to. Like now
Speaker 1: it's a standard where you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: they want to walk around bust down from the risk
Speaker 1: to the to the to the ripped up like now
Speaker 1: everybody want to look esthetically, you know. Correct for women,
Speaker 1: if you just had a baby, they expect you to
Speaker 1: day because us there are certain people just like, damn,
Speaker 1: how she have a baby and she don't even look
Speaker 1: like it. Let you come out and have a baby
Speaker 1: and a year later your body is still holding onto
Speaker 1: that weight or that stressing, that postpartum and you have
Speaker 1: a breakdown. This crazy everything will be held against you
Speaker 1: as a female in this industry. And I can attest
Speaker 1: to that because I've I've dealt with it. I have
Speaker 1: social media. I ever got on your your nerves where
Speaker 1: it's like you didn't want to, you didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Is there any like a room whatever spread through social
Speaker 1: media that wasn't true that got to you. I used
Speaker 1: to I used to realize that I would react to everything.
Speaker 1: I think. It's my Napoleon comparens on what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: Is I accept all? And I think my service like yeah,
Speaker 1: because I know what I'm sure. I always know that
Speaker 1: my personality has to be big. So when I enter
Speaker 1: the room, I'm just like my whole way is T'm
Speaker 1: gonna get out this motherfucker. And I have like a
Speaker 1: you know, like you have a walk in someplace, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what the vibe gonna give.
Speaker 1: I already knew what it's gonna give it head like family.
Speaker 1: But there's places I go I'm like like, like what
Speaker 1: is given? So I don't know what I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to do with sometimes to be higher places, but you
Speaker 1: don't know who y'all lying you. This is real, like
Speaker 1: people trying to get you there just so they could claim,
Speaker 1: or they'll pay you to come somewhere just to be
Speaker 1: on some bullshit or they're paying, they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep on pushing it back, like not the fun.
Speaker 1: I have an O C D complex as well. It's
Speaker 1: like if I'm late, I literally have a mental break
Speaker 1: that they'd like, calm the funk dead, like stop acting
Speaker 1: like that. But I realized I've learned how to overcome
Speaker 1: some of my insecurities what they call them. But I
Speaker 1: just like, no, it's just certain things that I've dealt
Speaker 1: with all my life. So it's just like scorp that
Speaker 1: novem me pup draking and people people think that we're weird.
Speaker 1: We're just missundersmelling you come out all right, you don't
Speaker 1: like noc is. I just feel that everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be a Scorpio because we think four people. So I've
Speaker 1: never got into anything or seeing anything on the internet.
Speaker 1: They're one things that I've seen and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I don't even go with that person no more deal
Speaker 1: with them. So it'd be all something. I'll be a
Speaker 1: people like, yeah, well what about that time. I'm like this,
Speaker 1: that was two years ago? You still thinking about I
Speaker 1: don't had a whole another I have a whole another
Speaker 1: life now, like, and I know that people love to
Speaker 1: live in the past, but they don't want I don't
Speaker 1: live there no more. So if you're still there, then
Speaker 1: you know I'm not there anymore. So I used to
Speaker 1: react to everything. People would say something. I'd be like, bitch,
Speaker 1: we'll pull up sinnaty, we hunt you damn. And that's
Speaker 1: weird because you say that to people. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta stop that. Yeah, I was wilding out, but honestly
Speaker 1: that's when I was get high. So you mean, so
Speaker 1: you telling me there should be people on Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming Twitter slash greatest place on Earth because like you
Speaker 1: can use it for the whole school on there. It
Speaker 1: was this one girl said something and I because that
Speaker 1: I come from jokes like yeah, and then the whole
Speaker 1: school jumping, and I was just like yeah, but look
Speaker 1: at this bitch that go to your school. I just
Speaker 1: kept on pulling that one thing I've learned, it's like
Speaker 1: when you're getting it. I'm around all comedians a lot
Speaker 1: from Cat Williams, like just to certain people, so it's
Speaker 1: like that's all we do is joke. But I realized
Speaker 1: that people can't take a joke and those people they
Speaker 1: don't know what. Let me just tell you, you're also petty.
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, because I'm a petty president and you
Speaker 1: described he just cribed a lot. But I've learned, so
Speaker 1: you so yeah, what y'all used to call it jonah
Speaker 1: joking cracking snap. Yeah, so we're snapped. So I'm thinking that, oh,
Speaker 1: if they follow me, they know what I'm giving. They
Speaker 1: know with vibal on. So when I realized people are
Speaker 1: getting offendsed like why would you say that? And I
Speaker 1: was just like damn, like they was in college. I
Speaker 1: don't never best with nobody kids. I don't play with
Speaker 1: people kids. I don't even play with my own Like
Speaker 1: it's your certain levels. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: if you're on the internet and you come for me
Speaker 1: and you're a kid, I would like put your mother
Speaker 1: on the phone because if my child did that, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, don't you disrespect? Nor don't I'll play that
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That's where I joined the line.
Speaker 1: But you never know who's who behind that, but you
Speaker 1: could pretty much tell when they try to say something
Speaker 1: corn of your kid, you feel me. But I had
Speaker 1: to get out of that because that's like a defense mechanism,
Speaker 1: which I realized was a part of my complex because
Speaker 1: I always felt that I had to defend myself. So
Speaker 1: I realized, stop, you know, reacting to everything ignored. Why
Speaker 1: do you can't you feel me? Because if you're pre
Speaker 1: social media, you're gonna yeah. Because like we literally, me
Speaker 1: and Missy who were sitting in the studio, we used
Speaker 1: to joke like all day. That was as soon as
Speaker 1: we get there, we're working between but it was just
Speaker 1: like I don't know this, Nick ain't got don't know
Speaker 1: goddamn so and it was just like just keep going
Speaker 1: and going. We would joke for hours but begin to
Speaker 1: to hit records time. So that's what I was used to.
Speaker 1: So when I thought I was sharing my personality, I
Speaker 1: realized people were taking it personal. And that's where you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to join the line and realize
Speaker 1: everybody and your friend and every but everything ain't funny noise.
Speaker 1: You guys are far too fine. Was hot boys came?
Speaker 1: Boys drop them before? Yes, it was like literally it
Speaker 1: was like a domino effect. Okay, once we did hot
Speaker 1: boys didn't put it on? Everything came Okay, So how
Speaker 1: does how do you get this call for put it
Speaker 1: on me? Is it seven? Will call you? Rules? Call you? Okay?
Speaker 1: Described the score and I was in I was in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Baltsmore in North Carolina. I was somewhere and um, I
Speaker 1: got the call. Was just like listen, his albums already done,
Speaker 1: so I had already. Did I cry? You did? I
Speaker 1: cried first? Yes, the album was done, the album was even.
Speaker 1: Put It on Me came out first. Put It on
Speaker 1: Me was already on the album. But the word and
Speaker 1: the way that I got it was like, um, after
Speaker 1: they did. I think the song. I think it was
Speaker 1: every little thing that we did. I think it was
Speaker 1: that one um the big records, and I think DMX
Speaker 1: was coming out. It was like def jam used to
Speaker 1: be a machine, but if you ain't selling soon amount,
Speaker 1: they will drop or shield your ask. Because here's how
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of thought of it, and um,
Speaker 1: you tell me every little thing that you do was
Speaker 1: out before Putty put it on me. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't remember that. I can't tell you that. So that
Speaker 1: was that was a single that was running around him
Speaker 1: and Christine a million, But I guess it was what
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was like dying down and
Speaker 1: so IRV was just like, yo, I need you for
Speaker 1: this record. The record is done, but you know I
Speaker 1: need you to come up with that right track. Studio.
Speaker 1: There was the engineer, I said, everybody get out. There
Speaker 1: was the engineer. Young girl. You know what that you
Speaker 1: know what it is? Young girl? A little girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went in there and I literally didn't write anything down.
Speaker 1: I started. I would take me from the top and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my way down. So I started off
Speaker 1: with the intro and I sang it between and like
Speaker 1: I literally did it like homework. I started from the top.
Speaker 1: See me to tell me when you walk in the studio,
Speaker 1: they don't have this already laid off for you know.
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me what to say, what this thing
Speaker 1: that was for you? Yeah, a lot of people, but
Speaker 1: that's how I work. Is just like play me something
Speaker 1: or play me a beat. I'm gonna do what I
Speaker 1: do and I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna kick everybody out
Speaker 1: the room because when I'm in my space and then
Speaker 1: in my zone and I know that it has to
Speaker 1: be a hit record. Like Missy told me that too.
Speaker 1: Don't let nobody in it because if you were working
Speaker 1: as a school teacher, if you work at scientists, yeah
Speaker 1: nobody can stand on. But some people are having a
Speaker 1: million people in there. In my anxiety, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: can y'all please get out? Because of my message? Why
Speaker 1: I like that having a million people that I started
Speaker 1: writing rhymes in jail, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's horrible. Um, yeah, so I was used to noise.
Speaker 1: I was used to like you know, like what I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever seen Malcolm Max said he
Speaker 1: used to sit down and look at the light and
Speaker 1: he would read. I would do that too, but I
Speaker 1: would read to write rhymes. But if you at jail
Speaker 1: at night when you're writing rhymes, it's the most awkwardest
Speaker 1: sounds every but it's chaos. So you're here, dude, oh
Speaker 1: miss my mom, you're here due jerking off and you
Speaker 1: like like like Yeah, it's just created so many It's
Speaker 1: so so I got used to And first off, I
Speaker 1: used to had the right rhymes to the radio station.
Speaker 1: I didn't have beats in jail, so I would hear
Speaker 1: a radio station, I would have to write my room
Speaker 1: over over you. So I got so used and accustomed
Speaker 1: to that that if I have peace and quiet, I'm
Speaker 1: not at peace and quiet I needs because if I
Speaker 1: hear something, I'm like, what's going on over there? I
Speaker 1: can't focus. But I've learned how to focus, but I
Speaker 1: don't want nobody in there because if I mess up,
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm shrinking. So it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, literally less, it's more for me, And it's
Speaker 1: crazy it happens. You got the right track and corner
Speaker 1: studio with the gold door because Guro had his own room.
Speaker 1: So I literally had to do the song that day.
Speaker 1: And then they scared me because they was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well you can't leave yet because Leo's coming. Wow. And
Speaker 1: I had met Leo previous to that because I was
Speaker 1: gonna sign a def jam. Tina Davis and Kevin lost
Speaker 1: Davis an empire right now, Kevin, now that you're still
Speaker 1: on the elector at this time. Yeah, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: on the lecture at that time. But um, I remember
Speaker 1: Leo came in and he was standing there. He was
Speaker 1: just like like, you know, he's he doesn't give you
Speaker 1: expression or emotion. He's man of little to very little emotions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, this is a like I'm just like
Speaker 1: a man. That was it. And literally once we recorded
Speaker 1: the record, IRV was ahead of the game whether dem
Speaker 1: jam was gonna prove it, approve it or not. He
Speaker 1: was already on the sky Tell texted all the p ds,
Speaker 1: I'm about to send your record. So during mixing then
Speaker 1: we sent it out, he was like, you ready to
Speaker 1: be the funk out of here. I'm ready to be
Speaker 1: the fun. And after that the floodgates open. So Hot
Speaker 1: Boys already introduced me to the world, put it on me,
Speaker 1: gave me the world. So wow, that's that was hard.
Speaker 1: So so at one point you and Jabu had some discrepancies, right,
Speaker 1: is that before I cried? You know, you say I
Speaker 1: cried was recorded prior to that. But I think I
Speaker 1: seen you on one or six in part one, right,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a G unit type of thing,
Speaker 1: and I think you kind of I'm correct. Already sounds crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think what you accused him of was you
Speaker 1: said that they didn't pay you for the record, so
Speaker 1: they didn't pay you for the video or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was for anything. Wait, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, what not even publishing them? I later got
Speaker 1: two point five later. Yeah, you have to fight for it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but that's why God makes some mistakes. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: did the record. The album has already done. Put it
Speaker 1: on me, I cry, Okay, I cried. It's cool that
Speaker 1: I got my right percent. Put it on me once
Speaker 1: I'm taking off it had it had did some many
Speaker 1: weeks on one of six in Park at number one.
Speaker 1: People were accusing because they said, def jam be paying
Speaker 1: for number one, but they were like, no, we can't
Speaker 1: fake a number one here because you have to actually
Speaker 1: call in and they have to tally like with the
Speaker 1: radio station when you get requests, you have to literally
Speaker 1: keep a log of it or if you could get
Speaker 1: in trouble. So we would number one so much that
Speaker 1: they had brought us on to retire the record, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to time. I don't I think we
Speaker 1: would have first soldier boy, we was the first to
Speaker 1: retire record. That was when we retired. We literally had
Speaker 1: to retire because people were other labels and people were
Speaker 1: complaining like, how can we can never get number one?
Speaker 1: Just like nobody wants your record to be y'all are
Speaker 1: not getting that many calls. So I'm thinking I was thinking, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this record been out, that check gonna be crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have as Martin would say, whoo woo whoa woo
Speaker 1: who And when it wasn't a woo woo whoo whoa,
Speaker 1: I had began to inquire and I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: what's up. I didn't charge your fee for it. I
Speaker 1: drove up there on my own dime, this and that.
Speaker 1: But what I see now is is if you don't
Speaker 1: handle your admit, that's when I'm really strict. And the label, well,
Speaker 1: the independent label that went now the Faculty Music Group,
Speaker 1: we're real ship, Like we'll have the song literally, I
Speaker 1: have the song on my phone, but until we get
Speaker 1: the clearances and the splits are agreed and all the
Speaker 1: paperworkers right this record, You're kid the light of day
Speaker 1: because you have to be. You never know what song
Speaker 1: will be out of here or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I didn't handle my paperwork. But after that I
Speaker 1: learned to like, oh, yeah, I'll sing on your record
Speaker 1: and I won't even charge your feet, but i'll charge
Speaker 1: your higher percentage and higher points. So just get me
Speaker 1: on the back end. That's what that means. She's just like,
Speaker 1: what said the three points? Then it just give me
Speaker 1: four maybe fact which the long periods. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: a lot of times people are trying to give you
Speaker 1: advance or artists stipend or you know, a fee, and
Speaker 1: then they don't want to give you. Yeah, be like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't be bored. So what exactly happened that Park thing?
Speaker 1: What was what was being said? If my memory sold
Speaker 1: me correctly, I remember we were introducing a video and
Speaker 1: at the end of whatever it was, I just said,
Speaker 1: g unit, and I didn't know they was gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: I thought the mix was off, and they kept it,
Speaker 1: and I realized, ship, here we go. But let me
Speaker 1: just give the backstory. I didn't honestly know the premise
Speaker 1: of what was going on between them, but but you
Speaker 1: didn't know it was at odds. I didn't know how
Speaker 1: serious it was because before I did put it on
Speaker 1: me before I did I cry. I did Somebody's Gonna
Speaker 1: Die Tonight for the Romeo Must Die soundtrack with Dave
Speaker 1: bing Bank. Dave bing b I n G. And he
Speaker 1: was he was with Murdered eight. So that's how I
Speaker 1: got to be a Roman. So anytime that movie plays like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like whoa. The admin was great on that,
Speaker 1: so I thought everything would be right. But it was
Speaker 1: something that happened at the video set and I remember see,
Speaker 1: I know fifty before he did have to row and
Speaker 1: went went around that top. My whole boy, Barry, we
Speaker 1: was right and songs in my whole voice. Uh. He
Speaker 1: had a joint South in Jamaica States. So we wrote
Speaker 1: a song called gay Yeah. Right by the way. It
Speaker 1: used to be a white Castle right there. So we
Speaker 1: was writing a song called fro Gayzy. And this was
Speaker 1: before he was shot, and so he'd be like, this
Speaker 1: is my homie fifty yo, he's about to blow. He
Speaker 1: got a better fact he just had did how to
Speaker 1: rob it. I'm just like, yo, you dope. We did
Speaker 1: songs on the spot and after that the situation happened,
Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't never involved. One thing I
Speaker 1: realized is don't get in grown men's beef. Be a lady.
Speaker 1: I knew that enough, so when stuff was happening, I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just industry stuff. Ain't nothing gonna happen, but it
Speaker 1: was real. So I had inserted myself and something that
Speaker 1: I had really no business and I said something I
Speaker 1: think on Hot ninety seven one time that I used
Speaker 1: to fill in for starring Buck Wild and I filled
Speaker 1: in and I said something, I did three things you
Speaker 1: should never do against uh. I think it was like
Speaker 1: whatever it was I said, and the last thing was
Speaker 1: never ever put out a disc record against I think
Speaker 1: it was somebody had tried to dis eminem and fifty
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And I got a call from Mona
Speaker 1: Scott and Chris Lidy and Sylvia Row was just like,
Speaker 1: be a lady, don't join in the men's beause that
Speaker 1: don't have nothing to do with you. And that from there,
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, bad because I thought
Speaker 1: it was, you know, industry beat that we labels are
Speaker 1: being cohoes, and be like, all right, it's gonna but
Speaker 1: now we're getting get to a port where it's just like,
Speaker 1: this is stuff that don't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the industry and you don't have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: you mind your damn business six super six. So I
Speaker 1: still got some of the mom left. How thin and
Speaker 1: J fix that because here you go, you got this
Speaker 1: great relationship cry and then there's one or six and
Speaker 1: Park thing happened. But what it was crazy, Like I
Speaker 1: think what it was was before the one or six
Speaker 1: and Park things happened. I remember we was, I was
Speaker 1: touring with them because you know, as an artist, sometimes
Speaker 1: in the apartment your cutting you off. As an artist,
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't know what the laby do and don't do,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm saying so like when I when
Speaker 1: when I saw that, I immediately knew. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think she unders she understands how busy he
Speaker 1: is that he's not even paying attention. So once there
Speaker 1: ever a conversation like you calling job prior to that
Speaker 1: and saying, you know what, they didn't pay me on this,
Speaker 1: you know, once I realized he didn't even know. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and I realized that, but he even put
Speaker 1: out a disk record on me and yeah, I did
Speaker 1: a who shot you? I was like, I did that?
Speaker 1: Who shot you? Like? Yeah, I was I was saying
Speaker 1: so crazy stuff because I used to really want to
Speaker 1: be a rapper, but I just could say. So it
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, y'all think you're gonna talk crazy
Speaker 1: about me. You must not know my hand an orange jumper.
Speaker 1: You know this is a piece from my ps. So
Speaker 1: because didn't you'll do to the video on Baltomore, I cry, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did that in Cherry Hill. That's like hood like
Speaker 1: it was a shootouts soon as we left, but like
Speaker 1: a fourteen year walking We got y'all like, wait, he
Speaker 1: has a gun? God, whose kid is this? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that's when I was just like
Speaker 1: Baltimore really had my back. But before that, it was
Speaker 1: just like I'm just running around hyped up doing shows.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, I mean, I know you're
Speaker 1: paying for flight in the hotel, but put them. But
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna tell you this, nobody ever knew this.
Speaker 1: They would saying that they were just on promo. So me,
Speaker 1: promo is just like, okay, I'm out promoting my single.
Speaker 1: We're not getting paid, We're just getting travel stipment just
Speaker 1: by accident. Um booking agent sent me his deposit by accident. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: who are you talking about again. Okay. So obviously when
Speaker 1: they're saying you're on promo, it's not y'all saying you
Speaker 1: on promo. Promo continued, that's what they were telling my management.
Speaker 1: So one day I get a FedEx and I opened
Speaker 1: it up and the joke was for like it was
Speaker 1: was it was advanced for like four shows, so it's
Speaker 1: like fifty, so that means he was getting twenty five
Speaker 1: the show out and this is a check or this
Speaker 1: is okay. So I'm getting phone calls and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think we know I called them, and I'm just like, uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta check here, but it's not to me what
Speaker 1: y'all post is sent me something else because this is
Speaker 1: fifty dollars advanced for four shows, and the show four
Speaker 1: shows a hundred thousands. Where's my? Like, where's my? I
Speaker 1: called them, you're doing shows for free nine but your
Speaker 1: bus is taken care of, flights were taken care of hotel,
Speaker 1: and for d M. You said okay, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was singing two songs and I was performing my heart out.
Speaker 1: So the agency called me back and was just like, wow,
Speaker 1: we've never had this mistake in all the time we've
Speaker 1: done bookings? Can you avoid it and send us a copy?
Speaker 1: I avoided it and I sent them. It was like,
Speaker 1: your honesty is what's gonna keep you in this industry.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, let me call and see.
Speaker 1: So y'all are getting paid for shows. There ain't none
Speaker 1: of your fucking business day And I'm just like, a
Speaker 1: who's saying that's none of your business? I spoke to
Speaker 1: I don't know who. At that time, I had a
Speaker 1: different manager, so I'm just like it was like yeah,
Speaker 1: so then she speaks to whoever, and they just like, well,
Speaker 1: we had already had a show book that I remember.
Speaker 1: I think we were in the Chicago at the labor
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, y'all don't have to come
Speaker 1: no more, say no more. One thing about me is
Speaker 1: if I feel uninvited or you tell me, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna come to there no more, I ain't showing up
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna beg nobody. That's a scorpion on me.
Speaker 1: I'm not begging you for ship, but I'll sleep outside
Speaker 1: for I beg you to come inside. It's just certain things.
Speaker 1: That's my that's my project. You're telling me. Someone from
Speaker 1: murder Ache said well, that's what the management came back
Speaker 1: and told me. It was like we were we were
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Airport's like, well, y'all can
Speaker 1: go home. But it wasn't my fault that y'all were
Speaker 1: getting paid. We weren't told. So we were doing MTV
Speaker 1: Spring Breaks, BT spring Blinks, doing all of these shows,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, like, I'm thinking the bad
Speaker 1: gonna run up. I still got bills. I still you know,
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, that's when it's
Speaker 1: doing to me when Silver Roon said, these a lot
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's ain't your friend. So I stopped going on
Speaker 1: the road, and then it was it was it was
Speaker 1: a hiatus between me and John talking because it went
Speaker 1: from us being like brother and sister too. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just be brother and sister with the
Speaker 1: people that I know that ain't never do nothing shady.
Speaker 1: But then I later realized it you honestly don't know
Speaker 1: who it is or who it was, but um, how
Speaker 1: did we reconcile? I think, uh, we got a show together,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, damn, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I saw his kids getting bigger, and I'm just like damn,
Speaker 1: Like I was there when when all these kids and
Speaker 1: my nephews and my kids were big, we want to
Speaker 1: go with ya route? How did we let this industry
Speaker 1: coming between that? My nephew literally he just turned like
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay in your I want to
Speaker 1: go with y'all rule, and he would literally come get
Speaker 1: my nephew so he could go chill with them. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh damn, but you know they're they're smoking
Speaker 1: merry reply. But it was just like, you know, how
Speaker 1: did we let anything come between that? Like we was?
Speaker 1: We was, you know, we was tight. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever I said, I apologize because I
Speaker 1: really didn't know what was going on, And maybe you
Speaker 1: don't know either. I'm almost sure I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: never asked him, but I'm almost sure me knowing him,
Speaker 1: he didn't know as an artist, Like as the artist, yeah,
Speaker 1: was crazy. And then I realized that was having ecstasy
Speaker 1: days days I was, and I was one of the
Speaker 1: ecstasy hands. I was running around. So it was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're thinking people that are in position are gonna handle
Speaker 1: our paperwork and do stuff. But just looking back, I
Speaker 1: was just like for me and my soul for me
Speaker 1: to have to put it at rest, because I don't
Speaker 1: understand how somebody could beef all their life, like if
Speaker 1: you want to take that to your grade and we
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen in the after life. If
Speaker 1: you have to literally stand before a law or God
Speaker 1: or whoever you sir, and they say, the only thing
Speaker 1: that's keeping you from having everlasting life or perfect peace
Speaker 1: is because you're holding an art against somebody that really,
Speaker 1: if your life, them or property ain't in danger anymore,
Speaker 1: why are you mad at this person? It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it wasn't affecting none of my business
Speaker 1: on my hits, I was affecting it. So I got
Speaker 1: to the point where just like yo, I apologize because
Speaker 1: I ain't made that ship I was. I was, I
Speaker 1: was had, I was one of them days. It's my
Speaker 1: career could have been on that could have been anything.
Speaker 1: And I was talking ship. But I'm honestly, I'm one
Speaker 1: of the first R and B artists to talk ship
Speaker 1: like I be talking to niggas. I don't know where
Speaker 1: that came from, but I think it's my accomplice. I
Speaker 1: really would talk ship to niggas. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I was on the tour. I think with Job, I
Speaker 1: was gonna talk with Job, not I think with I
Speaker 1: was gonna talk with Job. And one of the illiest
Speaker 1: moments I've ever seen in my life was him looked
Speaker 1: to the crowd, let's say, I want you all to
Speaker 1: say I cry, and then this crowd say you cry,
Speaker 1: and then this crowd said we cry, and then and
Speaker 1: then he didn't even say, we're gonna say that part together.
Speaker 1: And he came out there and he was like and
Speaker 1: then he just went like this, and I said, I
Speaker 1: need that ship are on the stadium. And I looked
Speaker 1: and I said, Holy motherfucking do you know how big?
Speaker 1: Because I don't put it on me when he when
Speaker 1: uh the end song? That where what? Or I don't
Speaker 1: even have to when you have a hit record, you
Speaker 1: don't even have to sing it. What I do is like,
Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna go to this part and
Speaker 1: y'all know what to do. And I literally stand it
Speaker 1: and people sing it to the top of the loans
Speaker 1: that it's an anthem or world. It's the best feeling
Speaker 1: in the world. And that's what I realized. I had
Speaker 1: to let some ship go because when you know your
Speaker 1: part is the one that people love, run with it
Speaker 1: to this day. To this day, that's people people have
Speaker 1: message me and we're like, turn out the record. DJ,
Speaker 1: y'all ain't got little most part playing. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: y'all do? They was like, why the fund do a
Speaker 1: part of or a version of putting on Me exists
Speaker 1: without more? I'm like, well that was on the album.
Speaker 1: They later strike it on the album. Yeah, but people
Speaker 1: like I don't want to hear without you. So it's
Speaker 1: just like I realized it was something in my voice
Speaker 1: or that my gift made room for me that when
Speaker 1: you hear a song without me on it, you don't
Speaker 1: want to hear it because it don't it don't make
Speaker 1: you feel nothing. But we don't from you. When did
Speaker 1: you film that video? App? And I think West Palm
Speaker 1: Beach or Florida. You're supposed Sami Miamiami. But I was
Speaker 1: because I remember that whatever it was, I believe it
Speaker 1: was West Palm Beach. I know that once the sun
Speaker 1: goes down, the town shuts down. So they were like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get this shot. Hip. It was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta get this shot because it's like an all rich
Speaker 1: there's another side of well we wasn't that something? That's
Speaker 1: what all the people they said, it's rich retirees. And
Speaker 1: at six o'clock the city shuts down and you have
Speaker 1: to be at your house or is your birthday? How
Speaker 1: when I when I when I always um be interviewed somebody,
Speaker 1: I go to Twitter because Twitter is like the most
Speaker 1: evilest place on the planet, but it's also like the
Speaker 1: most smartest place on the planet. For Twitter is And
Speaker 1: when I said, anybody got questions for a little mode,
Speaker 1: they said, how does she feel that? She basically put
Speaker 1: fabulous on? That's what they said. Yeah, everybody always asks
Speaker 1: why why why? Why do they Why do they think that?
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Well? I know that before we
Speaker 1: did Superwoman, he was like all the mixtapes, but that
Speaker 1: was his first radio record. Yeah, that was his firsts
Speaker 1: over hit record. And he was also signed to a
Speaker 1: lecture at that time too, because a little bit after
Speaker 1: wait a minute and it does the storm got the
Speaker 1: deal or whatever, they labeled to a lecture, but he
Speaker 1: had clue had all the mixtapes a lock and because
Speaker 1: it's a Superwoman to the remix career, because it was
Speaker 1: a Superwoman War one and that's what I went too.
Speaker 1: I had did the Beatie Seagull beat and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see that battle anyone. We're talking about that
Speaker 1: later you might jumped out. Got to call him. I
Speaker 1: had a drink to that because when that's what I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's uh yeah, beach like that's what
Speaker 1: super dues stop chill d I used Brian Michael Cox
Speaker 1: did that beat, so I did you ain't got to
Speaker 1: look up in the sky parts and Jamada Price like
Speaker 1: this ship is a hit, but we sent it into
Speaker 1: a lecturer and it was just like the song is
Speaker 1: too cocky. I'm like, I mean Superwoman part one because
Speaker 1: I was like basically saying, you ain't got to look
Speaker 1: at these chicken heads. You ain't gonna look anywhere else.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between me and these girls. And he
Speaker 1: was like, well, we don't want anybody to get offended
Speaker 1: or think that you're taking shots to them. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know nobody in real life but Missy
Speaker 1: Elliot and I'm not talking about her, like, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? So um, I'm I did Supermoman Part two.
Speaker 1: I was in l A with Clue working on the
Speaker 1: record because we had did songs with B two K
Speaker 1: like Cluing Up, Cluing Durer produced. So you heard that
Speaker 1: young girl? We didn't. We did, uh someone a girl
Speaker 1: artists that was on dream Works because they cut checks.
Speaker 1: Her name is Canela Cox and we had Spielberg record
Speaker 1: LABA and Dreino was cutting checks. He was from l a.
Speaker 1: Hen Street'd be like, I want fifty thousand for a
Speaker 1: song and then motherfucker, don't even come out. Hey, I
Speaker 1: don't care day checks. We were doing the sing and
Speaker 1: we were doing the song and the session was over.
Speaker 1: There was two hours left, but Clue had to get
Speaker 1: back to the East Coast for his Monday like mixtape
Speaker 1: and I was selling and I was like, you got
Speaker 1: we ain't wasting this two hours and we ain't just
Speaker 1: sitting up here. So I was like, hey, play me
Speaker 1: a beat. He played me the Superwoman beat. He was
Speaker 1: playing beats. He was like, I think you should do
Speaker 1: something like this, and I was like, I don't like
Speaker 1: when people tell me what you do. This is Clue.
Speaker 1: He's playing beats. So he plays a beat and it
Speaker 1: was just and I was like, I want that because
Speaker 1: that's so that sound is so annoying. I want to
Speaker 1: annoy people. But when I put my vocals over it,
Speaker 1: that she's gonna go out. He was like, I can't
Speaker 1: give you that beat, sist that's for m O p
Speaker 1: wa wa w Did MP have a version of it
Speaker 1: already day beat because way too fastn't do a remix
Speaker 1: already with And I was like, how about some wrong?
Speaker 1: This is so great, This is stuff people would never
Speaker 1: know any more Woman Superwoman, far too original beat for
Speaker 1: that song was made for them for m O p
Speaker 1: Oh you killed like you said, you killed this so much,
Speaker 1: I can't even think about. And trust me, m O
Speaker 1: p I'm a big Emo PI fan, but now that
Speaker 1: I hear what you did too, I can't even was
Speaker 1: crazy it was. It was literally just and the beat
Speaker 1: was dope, dope what I sang over soda every day.
Speaker 1: I sang that there was no chords and no key,
Speaker 1: so I had to sing that. When I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, drop the music, tell me how many beats
Speaker 1: per minutes? So I duro edit it out, but I
Speaker 1: would have to. I was like, ever every day I
Speaker 1: was snapping my fingers singing that, and I had to
Speaker 1: stack my vocals so we later had some producers, not producers.
Speaker 1: Some musicians come in and play the bridge, the strings
Speaker 1: and then act those keys are So if you hear
Speaker 1: the original beat to when it became the TV track,
Speaker 1: you'll be like you could tell I was around Quincy
Speaker 1: Jones and them because I've seen before. But when the
Speaker 1: way from your clause, No, but it was just like
Speaker 1: it was for m O P. So I did the
Speaker 1: song and I sent it to Clue. We had the
Speaker 1: Delta dashes. This was the craziest when you and Fab
Speaker 1: on there. Okay, So the thing is was with Fab,
Speaker 1: I'm always listening. I used to be a mixtape head,
Speaker 1: and Clues like, who do you want to get it?
Speaker 1: Because by that time I had worked with Missy job J.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew my name. Who you want to get on it?
Speaker 1: I was like I could have had I could have
Speaker 1: had m Op on it or anybody you know. And
Speaker 1: I was with a lecture, so it was it could
Speaker 1: have been a check, but my budget was basically tapped out,
Speaker 1: which means that I still had money on the back end,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to use all the money because
Speaker 1: I knew they were yet by that. But it was
Speaker 1: just like listen once we put us out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be like I knowing mixing is gonna
Speaker 1: be gonna absorbed that. So I know jay Z is
Speaker 1: gonna chrge a hundred thousand dollars, Mrs gonna trge to
Speaker 1: me to dollars and was gonna try me far disrespect
Speaker 1: for taking their record. So they already knew that they
Speaker 1: had that record. Well I don't find out now. So
Speaker 1: um Clue was like, so, who you want to get
Speaker 1: on the record. I think it would be dope with
Speaker 1: a rap. I said, the boarder speller's name or all
Speaker 1: your records. He was like Spins. I'm like yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like he's dope. He was like, oh, that's easy. Text
Speaker 1: him and bab and he was with Um. He wasn't
Speaker 1: with he was with Webb and Chayo. Him and Webb
Speaker 1: came to the studio with yellow dude rags or chicken
Speaker 1: boxes and the sky tell pages. So I'm thinking, like
Speaker 1: he's gonna come in there being this business. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what chicken boxes is chicken like, it comes
Speaker 1: in a box with chicken, the French fries. I want
Speaker 1: real chicken boxing. They came in there with food me
Speaker 1: thinking in the mi and said, Rabbit Spelling's day. I'm
Speaker 1: think he's gonna coming there with all these slick rick
Speaker 1: jewelry's on and wailing out. He came in with just him,
Speaker 1: yellow do rags and chicken and I believe maybe Street
Speaker 1: Fair kid. It was like, I'm just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: don't come here with a hundred people. So I'm just like,
Speaker 1: so you're ready to do your podcasts, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do your thing. He's like, I'm ready, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me move out your way. So we were at
Speaker 1: right track. I leave out. So he comes back like
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes later, so I'm like, you're finished.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, so before we push, but I hope
Speaker 1: you don't mind. I did a little something in the intro,
Speaker 1: and I did something at that Oh, so you're just
Speaker 1: working above and beyond. So soon as I heard something
Speaker 1: like he was like little oh, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. He spelt my name after so he was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I ain't got As soon as I heard
Speaker 1: his voice and what he said, I was like, you've
Speaker 1: got to be I guess I ain't got no reason.
Speaker 1: The men go around. I found a superwoman that could
Speaker 1: leave from the truck in a single bound. Mommy, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to bling you down. Something was about shades on
Speaker 1: the kids when I bring you and she put her
Speaker 1: lips on the weeds, still put it to work her
Speaker 1: tongue and made me come faster than the speed and
Speaker 1: bullet my love stronger than our locomotive. But only for
Speaker 1: that so that where he's like, oh, here go to
Speaker 1: the impart. So I'm like, where does it coming? Then
Speaker 1: after the bridge and he was like, the superwoman might
Speaker 1: have saved my day to KOs that would have gave
Speaker 1: some play. Now he wouldn't even wave that way. I
Speaker 1: understand why the mother she's behaved that way. They see
Speaker 1: the icy yes in your chest and grave and great
Speaker 1: be whipped the mike because usually with them things he type,
Speaker 1: but only greeny keep from me is Krypton knit the
Speaker 1: way that blew a red fitting on your hips. So right,
Speaker 1: I'd be like damn. I was like where wat excited,
Speaker 1: like how did you? I didn't even have to say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you should tighten it up, and I was like
Speaker 1: we added here a lecture. Didn't want to put out
Speaker 1: the record because they didn't feel like nobody knew who
Speaker 1: he was, so clue played on his mixtape, and then
Speaker 1: after well the Money Night Makes tape on High ninety seven,
Speaker 1: he just kept on going up to and after that
Speaker 1: there was oh my god, this record is a smash.
Speaker 1: So I literally saw him go from them. We had
Speaker 1: a basically one commercial commercial because it went from what
Speaker 1: was jar Roule calling me? I swear to god, who
Speaker 1: I did not answer the phone? Jar hold a little
Speaker 1: more chilling man just up here talking about the good
Speaker 1: old days. Had we mirrod him back from you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, There was a time where we went
Speaker 1: from the top and then we went through something. But
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it got to the point
Speaker 1: where we get older and you get wise and you
Speaker 1: realize I took accountability and apologize for just jumping in
Speaker 1: something that ain't have nothing to do with me. I
Speaker 1: love you well, you know what it is. We got
Speaker 1: a dream chance moment won two three. Oh you know
Speaker 1: you know Norri sup tides, I'll be getting round of
Speaker 1: the shopper. Ain't got really nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: we always do, man, we always do. Well. That's there's
Speaker 1: a part of being our job. Our job is consistent, fucker.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I was calling you, hey man,
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm going this is when I ain't up
Speaker 1: on you right now. I'm gonna hit you back it
Speaker 1: just by the way. We're gonna address the beach later.
Speaker 1: But let's can pretend you on so, um where was you?
Speaker 1: Boom now superwoman? First of the mercial record for so
Speaker 1: so Yeah, the first commercial record for five and you
Speaker 1: know I was just playing them around but put them on.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people say that because um, as
Speaker 1: I tweeted out today, UM, I wish I do with
Speaker 1: every guest, especially guests that I want to know a
Speaker 1: little bit more about. I'll say, yo, you got a question,
Speaker 1: question too, and I sweeter to god, I can show
Speaker 1: you on my Twitter Like it was like if I
Speaker 1: had fifty seven messages, at least thirty of them was
Speaker 1: like yo, hotest little more field. Um that that she
Speaker 1: was responsible for the world noticing Fab? Is that something that, Um,
Speaker 1: your fab ever have a discrepancy? Like you ever tried
Speaker 1: to get him back on the record or and it
Speaker 1: wasn't no, no, not, because it's like it's never been
Speaker 1: a discrepancy. And he'll even say he said in interviews,
Speaker 1: like Moe gave me a chance, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then that opened the door. He's done records with
Speaker 1: m JB J. Low, everybody, like he's worked with everybody,
Speaker 1: and they opened the door. So it's just like Missy
Speaker 1: did that for me. So the way you have longevity
Speaker 1: in this industry is you put somebody in position. You
Speaker 1: keep putting people in a position. So because because it
Speaker 1: didn't stop there, so it's like now a lot of
Speaker 1: the young artists that are coming back. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: do good, good gonna come back. So whatever you put
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere is gonna gonna return. So it just
Speaker 1: didn't stop there. But Missy did that for me. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times I would say, but basically,
Speaker 1: well we did after that, we did Can't let You
Speaker 1: go forever, Like we have so many records together, it's
Speaker 1: like we have a whole I honestly know that we
Speaker 1: wanted to do like a like a like a collaborative album,
Speaker 1: and I know he was like, def Jam wasn't with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, let's do it ourselves. But now
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to have the opportunity to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's just like it is what it is, but
Speaker 1: those fans are from the album. Just literally set le
Speaker 1: brated twenty years on June. So twenty years honestly having
Speaker 1: my first album out and he was a part of that.
Speaker 1: We got two decades congratulating. Here's something I do want
Speaker 1: to ask you, right because when we googled and we
Speaker 1: kept googling, we didn't expect that you don't have a
Speaker 1: song with John Rule with me on my album? Is
Speaker 1: that that is true? Yeah? Yeah, I think after like
Speaker 1: the whatever happened with the fallout, we never but we
Speaker 1: we have records that never were released. Okay, so it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we had records that were never released
Speaker 1: or I think it was just because he was honestly
Speaker 1: the most dominant artist and they there was a time
Speaker 1: when Murder Inc. Was a machine, like you was not
Speaker 1: permeating their goals. Yeah, it was that. So now once
Speaker 1: I'm indeed I have that like when you can't you
Speaker 1: can't get in, you can't get in. There was a
Speaker 1: stop spelling bees and everything. So it's just like, I know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't you couldn't cut through. They had a run.
Speaker 1: You wasn't putting you wasn't cutting through like Earth had
Speaker 1: that ship or a lot Deaf Jam had that ship
Speaker 1: on a lock. So it's just like, if you was
Speaker 1: trying to do a female and a male song, you wasn't.
Speaker 1: If he put out someone a female in the male,
Speaker 1: you wasn't. You wasn't beating him. He mastered the game.
Speaker 1: He had all the PDS names and numbers in his phone,
Speaker 1: and he made them feel important because he would be
Speaker 1: like here going to record the label because they're gonna
Speaker 1: move that. They paced, So it was just like he
Speaker 1: was always ahead of the game. So whenever their declination
Speaker 1: came in at where you know, things started, you know,
Speaker 1: falling apart, I don't. That doesn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with me because at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: was never signed to murder any So it's just like
Speaker 1: you know that, but you are right, I don't have
Speaker 1: any songs with him, actually want I just think that
Speaker 1: once me and Fab started doing records together, just like
Speaker 1: a missing him at certain people's chemistry that even though
Speaker 1: you could have hits with other people, it's just certain
Speaker 1: people's chemistry that surpassed that. Because yeah, so um, now
Speaker 1: we got this music is being handled. But now you
Speaker 1: do love a hip hop first, right before before you
Speaker 1: get electorate, you did something ODB. Yeah whoa oh man,
Speaker 1: rest in peace to him. So I did good Morning Heartache.
Speaker 1: We made that and he specifically told Sylvia because he
Speaker 1: had a relationship with Sylvia that was uh like they
Speaker 1: was like homies. So he was like, I want to
Speaker 1: get that girl on the record, the girl that he's
Speaker 1: singing stuff. So I'm thinking, like, this is od B
Speaker 1: because he's a singer inside like you can tell he
Speaker 1: was Yeah, but you're coming from growing up watching Wu
Speaker 1: Tang and you see O d B. You thinking that,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Like honestly was afraid to go to
Speaker 1: the session because I'm like, I hope you don't be
Speaker 1: in there acting weird because od B respecting ship out
Speaker 1: you like everybody's like if he's if you delete. I
Speaker 1: was in a the session and he said, do not rewind,
Speaker 1: delete or do do exactly what I told you to
Speaker 1: do because sometimes engineers get comfortable, and he started doing stuff.
Speaker 1: He said, did you record. I've seen him walk out
Speaker 1: of a session where they recorded over his vocal and
Speaker 1: he left. But he would have people bring his reels in.
Speaker 1: They would be on in Dolly's and he'd be like,
Speaker 1: go to track, go to real or Real number three
Speaker 1: and they would find it. He would always come in
Speaker 1: with the sessions with his reels. So we recorded that
Speaker 1: at the Hit Factory, and I was so scared of
Speaker 1: going there and sing where he was like, going there
Speaker 1: and sing how you sing? Don't worry about what I
Speaker 1: do or what anybody else has done before, you do
Speaker 1: what you do. So I did good Morning, how they
Speaker 1: Can Sing? And he sat there, he was dancing in
Speaker 1: front of the board like this, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I wonder if he likes it not and they was like, no,
Speaker 1: he loves it. And it made the album. So that
Speaker 1: was actually a dream come true because I was will
Speaker 1: Tang forever the world. I've I've never worked before, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think that was a fear of mine because you
Speaker 1: know why, because people they fell just do like You're
Speaker 1: so like, well, what what what? They just think that
Speaker 1: he was the Neptune, but people didn't know that he
Speaker 1: was writing for s w V. So I was scared
Speaker 1: back then, and I don't think my budget was healthy
Speaker 1: enough for him. But we hosted a UM Hot ninety
Speaker 1: seven flow like years ago for the Puerto Rican Day
Speaker 1: Parade and we was on that. He was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: you really can say. And then after that we just
Speaker 1: was cool. And every time I'm saying, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: do you be drinking? And what do you take? How
Speaker 1: do you keep looking? I was like, did you join
Speaker 1: the Luminous? But he was just like, na, just a
Speaker 1: favor over my life and just honestly after that, like
Speaker 1: he's just a cool individual. He never ages, he never
Speaker 1: liked yeah, yeah, I want so so boom. Now we
Speaker 1: move on to the reality show. Oh yeah, so what
Speaker 1: made you say? All right, cool, let me go to
Speaker 1: reality from here? And then not only reality, but you
Speaker 1: went to New York, which is like going back to
Speaker 1: your roots. It's like going back home a little bit,
Speaker 1: well maybe even a lot of it, um going back home,
Speaker 1: but um, you know doing this? What made you do that?
Speaker 1: Was it a Mona call? Because, like you said, it
Speaker 1: was it was violated as well. But I was rocking
Speaker 1: with Mona before violated because when she won't actually with
Speaker 1: Missy like she was the one who said up everything,
Speaker 1: so she we've just been rocking out since the beginning.
Speaker 1: But I had did R and B Divers before that,
Speaker 1: so I was realized that that music is changing and
Speaker 1: you might think you lit, but it's a whole new
Speaker 1: world out there. And reality TV was the way. So
Speaker 1: I did R and B Divs of l A and
Speaker 1: then I got the call for Loving Hip Hop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was directly for Mona because it was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: I see you know you're working on some stuff and
Speaker 1: do you want to tell your story? And because you
Speaker 1: know people know you, this would be a great way
Speaker 1: to push with what you got going on. And this
Speaker 1: is after you you have radio? Yeah, because I said
Speaker 1: I did radio my daughter b nineteen. I was pregnant
Speaker 1: with her when I did radio, So yeah, what made
Speaker 1: you do radio? Like because most artists, whose artists do,
Speaker 1: want to just keep sticking to the artist. Yeah, artists
Speaker 1: and singing. So what made you say at one point
Speaker 1: you know what? Uh? And I imagine you did it
Speaker 1: in your hometown at first, right, that was in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: The You Mention was a program directed there. So when
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do the show, I
Speaker 1: used to watch Martin and I was like, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: they know me up in here. And then but I
Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time and that was that's with
Speaker 1: my first daughter. And you know, in the industry back then,
Speaker 1: if you was pregnant, they didn't care, Like now you
Speaker 1: could be pregnant, busting it wide open, have the baby
Speaker 1: come back to the show the next day. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: because they didn't want you to be seen. So instead
Speaker 1: of sitting at home, I always I can't sit still,
Speaker 1: so I wanted something to do and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: do you have an air check? I'm like, what's that? Like?
Speaker 1: You made an hair check? They was like, well, when
Speaker 1: you've done ready before? Said well, I used to feel
Speaker 1: in at ready in New York on Hot Night the
Speaker 1: seven for everybody? So is that so? Tracy Clarity literally
Speaker 1: put in a good word for me and Jay Stevens
Speaker 1: and't thea Mitchell game your afternoon? So it was a
Speaker 1: little mo show and I was number one, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: by talking. But I had so many elements to the show.
Speaker 1: I literally patterned everything I did after Martin. So were
Speaker 1: Craig Cold people. We were like, it was really all
Speaker 1: around good show until one day defense the Fats showed
Speaker 1: up a radio shot. Did you do what happened? It
Speaker 1: used to be so much going on in Baltimore, So
Speaker 1: two things one day the cops showed up because remember
Speaker 1: the DC sniper, Yeah, that was the waffle house, the
Speaker 1: waffle house that he shot somebody I had just left.
Speaker 1: Don know what's crazy is the DC sniper used to
Speaker 1: go to a subway. It was the radio station right here,
Speaker 1: and it was a subway sandwich place he should go
Speaker 1: to every day. And it was like he was so polite.
Speaker 1: They didn't know he was the sniper, so like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I could have got sniped. I met his wife, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I just felt like it was just a protective
Speaker 1: thing at that point whence they realized that he was
Speaker 1: in that area. And the second time they came was
Speaker 1: when the R. Kelly scandal had came out. Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: because let's make sure if we go back to the R.
Speaker 1: Kelly scandal, because it's very important to me. Okay, um
Speaker 1: to you, it's very important to me. Caring mind, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just be clear and were black? Yeah, we're black.
Speaker 1: You thought that D sniper was black at first? No,
Speaker 1: because that's not no black ship because he was sniping
Speaker 1: ship and he's sniping like, I don't know black brothers.
Speaker 1: You know that much time? So I was when the
Speaker 1: kid too, was a kid he was with. That was
Speaker 1: a kid, right, That wasn't his kid. He had taken
Speaker 1: him on. He was like fifteen, he was. He was
Speaker 1: the one sniping ship. The kid, the kid, he trained him.
Speaker 1: He tried to spers the guy on the on the
Speaker 1: joint and then and the real snipers latt two Latin
Speaker 1: two four the wind. They were doing some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: They do you living in bottom at the time. Sniper ship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: first people want a skid to go outside, like it was.
Speaker 1: I had a tour in the DMV at this time.
Speaker 1: I sweeter guard. I could prove it all okay, um,
Speaker 1: people get shot randomly in the station like people kep
Speaker 1: against like this. I was plump again, like I was
Speaker 1: like yo. I had someone driving me to said, some
Speaker 1: white people ship. What did you say? So at first
Speaker 1: people thought that some white people ship. Not only that,
Speaker 1: but you know it's a lot of military bases out there.
Speaker 1: He not. He did not pop no brothers. At first.
Speaker 1: He popped. At first he was popping white people, and
Speaker 1: then he just switched it on the brothers. And then
Speaker 1: when it was gonna condo black people, and then he
Speaker 1: popped the kid. That's when it was up. But my
Speaker 1: cousin was a sheriff in ah uh St Mary's County,
Speaker 1: and he was like, at first they could have been
Speaker 1: stopped it how because they have aerial stuff they see everything.
Speaker 1: But then once it got to the point where he started,
Speaker 1: it's almost like they the government could do anything because
Speaker 1: what you can control people by fear, then it's just
Speaker 1: like okay, because they have like certain exercises that they
Speaker 1: when they were reacting. But he really whatever was going on,
Speaker 1: he started invoking fearing the people to the point that
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to pump gas. Like businesses was suffering, and
Speaker 1: nobody knew what he was. Nobody knew what yeah, and
Speaker 1: nobody knew a car he was in. They just kept
Speaker 1: on saying, DC sniper, We have a composite sketch. Nobody
Speaker 1: knew he was going to subway and waffle house, and
Speaker 1: he was going the subway after he was sniping. We
Speaker 1: don't know if it was before, but nobody knew they
Speaker 1: would catch him sleeping at the rest stop and they
Speaker 1: truck blocking in. He didn't look like look snipers usually
Speaker 1: look sniper. He didn't had a dirty, scruffy sniper looked
Speaker 1: like his name was Keith. He'd be on the internet
Speaker 1: all sweat about to go at it. It's about to
Speaker 1: be a shot. You got you, Yeah, give me a shot.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why, because it's about to be up.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna tell you who. I think between
Speaker 1: the sniper it was just like I was pregnant at
Speaker 1: the time. So once people stopped, it was scary because
Speaker 1: then it's just like, oh, this could be over here
Speaker 1: like here, yeah, It's like it got dangerous. And once
Speaker 1: he started going in areas that was Townson, that's that's
Speaker 1: a money areas tws O N. So when he started
Speaker 1: going into areas that he people thought he should be
Speaker 1: sniping and Baltimore like, that's that's messed up. But then
Speaker 1: when they had a composite sketch and I believe I
Speaker 1: don't know if it wouldn't, but he was. His preciseness
Speaker 1: was they was just like they never thought it was
Speaker 1: a black person. He was at military though, right, I
Speaker 1: believe so. But then when they found out that the
Speaker 1: young boy leave Maumo was sniping, he was like fourteen
Speaker 1: and fifteen, how do you teach my son is about
Speaker 1: to be How do you impression? How do you put
Speaker 1: an impression on someone that's not your own child to
Speaker 1: be like, I want you to go out here and
Speaker 1: we're about to change the game. And he never I
Speaker 1: don't think he ever physically abused his uh ex wife,
Speaker 1: because I did panels with her about domestic abuse and
Speaker 1: he was starting. But he never touched hard them kids.
Speaker 1: So they were trying to say wife, ex wife. They
Speaker 1: was just that's what that's what was the rule leg
Speaker 1: that he was mad at the ex wife because that's
Speaker 1: a terrible domestic that's I'm just like it was. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. So you you texted d C snaper wife
Speaker 1: sometimes like, no, not anymore. We did. We did up
Speaker 1: the podcast. So when I'm sitting up things like yo,
Speaker 1: the lady, that's the lady, that's his wife, And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, and I asked of off the record, I
Speaker 1: was just on something like, yo, did he ever pop out?
Speaker 1: Like but he would try to pop up at the sisters,
Speaker 1: her sister his house and threatened, but he never touched him.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like you, He's like, when you say
Speaker 1: pop out, what are you saying? Like like he was
Speaker 1: just shooting the desistance. No, he never he just showed
Speaker 1: up he was popping people that had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with anything. A bus driver, a kid, a lady pumping gas.
Speaker 1: He was understanding. He had an argument with his wife
Speaker 1: and said, I choose some other people. He didn't have
Speaker 1: no manifesto here. And the reason it had no It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was the oldest child supporters through the roof. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we don't know my wife, I kill mother and
Speaker 1: these kids. I think he gets to your sister. He
Speaker 1: just got He just everybody I think honestly has that
Speaker 1: breaking point. He was. That's serious. So like, is he
Speaker 1: wait they sniped him out right? I thought the kid definitely,
Speaker 1: but I think he's out now right, the kid is out.
Speaker 1: He was like four ship come on away in a
Speaker 1: minute something. But it was like when I say people
Speaker 1: in different counties were afraid to pump gas. Do you
Speaker 1: know how imperative it is to pump your gas? And
Speaker 1: then when you got to peek around and you don't
Speaker 1: know because nobody knew, they couldn't find the vehicle. No, nothing,
Speaker 1: country would scared everybody like were gonna start doing that.
Speaker 1: He was literally he never missed right. So once he
Speaker 1: killed that kid that was at the busy house, that
Speaker 1: he shot at the gas one of those joints. It
Speaker 1: was either guy s the waffle house. We were playing
Speaker 1: around because we had just seen the news. Huh did
Speaker 1: But the young kid he trying to get out because
Speaker 1: he was he was coerced m A l v O.
Speaker 1: So we were playing around, sweiteterguard. We're on tour, we're
Speaker 1: playing around as we like, not getting gas. I think
Speaker 1: she said that earlier, but I think we were like
Speaker 1: just using the bathroom or whatever, and was like, yo, watch'all,
Speaker 1: what'll the snipe? And we were playing with this, playing
Speaker 1: around the snipe. But we get to the hotel. You
Speaker 1: know how the tour bus ship that your to um
Speaker 1: the TV don't work when you're going on the highway
Speaker 1: and then once you pull up to the hotel and
Speaker 1: it falls up and we all just look at each
Speaker 1: other like he shot the dude at the same exact
Speaker 1: place we were playing like. We were just playing around,
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, let's get out of here. And we
Speaker 1: looked and I pulled up. I was like the whole
Speaker 1: ship like we just we didn't play no more from
Speaker 1: from that, but they make you think as an artist,
Speaker 1: like what if he was at the show. Yeah, Wow,
Speaker 1: damn that he definitely shot before the show. It was
Speaker 1: looking before you know, he was getting away because he
Speaker 1: didn't get caught after so he might have been at
Speaker 1: that motherfucker like it might have been turned them up
Speaker 1: this leg because because because in a snipe, because people
Speaker 1: think that snipers just snipe and then be just on
Speaker 1: a rampage like that. Right went to the Whitefire, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: nor over there, I might go check it out. I
Speaker 1: ain't got no tickets. I mean, I'm like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: might pop through to the last place they're gonna expect.
Speaker 1: They always do not Earlier, I heard you say you
Speaker 1: worked with jay Z? How was that? And on what
Speaker 1: area is jay Z? Is this? It's just possible up
Speaker 1: next year. Damn he getting out. They're gonna get him out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do a story here. Yeah, that that's like
Speaker 1: mental abuse, like when you go through a program, for sure.
Speaker 1: But where was his parents? I always asked that, No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the whole time, So where was his mom
Speaker 1: and dad? That's why I'm just like and every time
Speaker 1: I asked that, I get in trouble because people like,
Speaker 1: why are you write about where's people's parents? Said? Because
Speaker 1: my daughter is legally grown, and I can't even set
Speaker 1: up a point was they were like, well, we have
Speaker 1: to speak up first before we give you this information.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I'll be knowing. I need to
Speaker 1: know where these parents is at because I need to
Speaker 1: know when my kids is at all time. Because ship
Speaker 1: is real and you colact if you want to. But
Speaker 1: niggas is catching people slipping, and I would hate to
Speaker 1: be the like I don't know if maybe he don't
Speaker 1: know if he was like an adoptive son or maybe
Speaker 1: his godfather, But how did he get it? What matter?
Speaker 1: What did he say to him? That may be like
Speaker 1: you're going out here the Snipe ship, you have to
Speaker 1: be pretty persuasive and charismatic to be able to pull
Speaker 1: it off. I don't want nobody to have that type
Speaker 1: of power over my son because it's that easy. Period.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what were we talking about. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: f d Sniper Gonna from Sniper's He's that, he's that
Speaker 1: but the kid but snipers out. So now marriage bootcap
Speaker 1: come to you? Oh yeah, because we were talking about
Speaker 1: loving hip hop but between because love and hip hop
Speaker 1: and marriage, Blue Camp was literally filmed almost simultaneously It
Speaker 1: was literally a couple of months after because because Mary's
Speaker 1: Bootcamp had to get clearance to from Love and hip
Speaker 1: Hop too, so he was already on a couple of
Speaker 1: seasons of Love and Hip Hop one season okay, and
Speaker 1: I was done. I did my bed and I was out.
Speaker 1: Let me get it. Yeah, goddamn god, I'm so marriage
Speaker 1: boot camp. I gotta ask you, Um, I believe it's
Speaker 1: your husband at the time, Yeah, because I'm not married
Speaker 1: no more. Okay, So this is this footage of him
Speaker 1: like face timing or being was that something that the
Speaker 1: show bowled off or that was this was? This was
Speaker 1: absolutely real? Because it was absolutely real real, It was
Speaker 1: absolutely real. And one thing because now I can talk
Speaker 1: about it because we couldn't talk about it before the
Speaker 1: show came out, so I had to fake the funk
Speaker 1: as if we were still together until the show actually aired.
Speaker 1: But that was back in nineteen So now I can
Speaker 1: talk about it. With that house, you're there for like
Speaker 1: thirty days, not thirty days or so like twenty eight
Speaker 1: days and anything after they say after things, you after tries,
Speaker 1: it's a habit, but when you're in that house for
Speaker 1: a week, it's almost I wouldn't say jail because I've
Speaker 1: never been to jail. But when you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere, you can't leave. There's little to no WiFi connection.
Speaker 1: You have to stand by where that actual scene was
Speaker 1: filmed because that's where the WiFi connection is. The house
Speaker 1: is a dead zone. And before you film, they keep
Speaker 1: you in the hotel. You can't leave out your room.
Speaker 1: They bring everything to you. You don't have no room key,
Speaker 1: you don't have no access to the outside world. It's
Speaker 1: mentally designed to break you down because then you get
Speaker 1: when your mind is broken down. It's a real boot camp.
Speaker 1: And they let you know that and you sign off.
Speaker 1: So I know what I signed up for, but when
Speaker 1: you sign up for it, it's just like you know
Speaker 1: what you're getting into. But I went back to what
Speaker 1: Mona says is, if you find out what is presented
Speaker 1: before you, and you find out that it is valid,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do right? Because because how this
Speaker 1: happens right, because you will sleep At the time he
Speaker 1: was making I was gonna hold another side of the
Speaker 1: house as big as ships. You get lost in that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes they cut off parts of the house.
Speaker 1: They'll be like Oh you can't know. You can't come
Speaker 1: over here because they're setting up scenes like you'll be
Speaker 1: sleep and you wake up and it's a whole fucking
Speaker 1: carnival houseide. So with that, I was on the other
Speaker 1: side of the house. So is it a cast member
Speaker 1: who tells you this or is it the actual staff
Speaker 1: or production? It's actually dr being doctor Ish And I
Speaker 1: could say it now because they came to me off record,
Speaker 1: because when you're filling doctor who dr V that's the
Speaker 1: lady and Dr Ish. I just don't know the doctor Okay,
Speaker 1: dr Ish, but Dr V was the white lady, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Okay, they came to me. It was like,
Speaker 1: can we talk to you? And like when they say
Speaker 1: they can they talk to you? They take you in
Speaker 1: this white room and are you automatically thinking that they're
Speaker 1: trying to start drama or you believe they're not there
Speaker 1: to start Okay? Cool, they're they're honestly they want you
Speaker 1: to bring the druma. They know it's only a certain
Speaker 1: amount of time you can last before the dramas. Like
Speaker 1: people can sit up there and try to hide, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna pop out because they're mentally funk with you
Speaker 1: till you be like, oh ship. So I was in
Speaker 1: the house with Soldier Boy India Jessica Dime and her
Speaker 1: husband Tammy, and walk up and his girl was like,
Speaker 1: so I was a house with soldier boy, but that's
Speaker 1: like my nephew. So I literally got to see soldier boys.
Speaker 1: Time for you come to drink chats on me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I got to see everything that went down. So
Speaker 1: I've literally seen a lot of people grow up in
Speaker 1: the industry and then I got to live in the
Speaker 1: house with them. And seeing people in the industry and
Speaker 1: live with them is two separate things. So mentally, I
Speaker 1: saw everybody break down. And I'm not gonna put nobody's
Speaker 1: business out there. I'm gonna talk about me. So I
Speaker 1: know when my breaking fronts they came to you and
Speaker 1: they showed you the footage, or they take me to
Speaker 1: side and they bring me they bring they was like,
Speaker 1: can you come talk to us? And once they take
Speaker 1: you in the white room, you know what's up in
Speaker 1: the stuff? From there, they're gonna they're gonna that's when
Speaker 1: they film and they're gonna present you with some information
Speaker 1: because everybody you think you sneak it, but this could
Speaker 1: be a microphone. This could be a camera. Everything is
Speaker 1: a camera to the microphone. This could be a camera.
Speaker 1: So you sit up there, yeah, this'll bet they got
Speaker 1: you here. The house is strategically put together to catch
Speaker 1: your ass slipping. So unless you layter there like this
Speaker 1: and reading your Bible the whole time, your ask gonna
Speaker 1: get caught in some ship. So when it came to
Speaker 1: me they unfolded these papers, they was like, hey, you're
Speaker 1: good to that? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Because we're smoking helloween? Because you're going crazy out there.
Speaker 1: It's the middle of nowhere and you can't go nowhere.
Speaker 1: So they were like, we want to show you. I
Speaker 1: don't even know where this. They drive you there and
Speaker 1: you don't know where there because they'll stop, they pull over,
Speaker 1: and then you're getting the lambo and then you and
Speaker 1: you're like President, yeah, it's no address. You can't be
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say my location. Ain't none of that
Speaker 1: going on, which they had a police out there. So
Speaker 1: I just remember them handing me some papers, which I
Speaker 1: still have to this day because I went through some
Speaker 1: old luggage and I'm like, god, damn, they unfold they
Speaker 1: send me these people. There's like, do you know who
Speaker 1: this is? I'm like, no, that looks like a dude.
Speaker 1: They was like, oh, it's a female. Because whoever it was.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, the face looks pixelized. What is
Speaker 1: it given? And they were like, um, are you the
Speaker 1: only person that your people was dealing with? I said, well,
Speaker 1: far as I know, Like how the fun I can't
Speaker 1: even call my kids hardy out here. I have to
Speaker 1: use y'all phones to check on my kids. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: we have reason to believe that he has someone else
Speaker 1: in his life, because he has someone in his phone
Speaker 1: saved this W two. I'm like, like as a tax phone,
Speaker 1: as in like woman number two, like a wo They
Speaker 1: said it would save that W two and I said,
Speaker 1: I do not know who. I was thinking W two
Speaker 1: or maybe two when they actually it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know how long i've been leagal I've been. I
Speaker 1: thought about straight lead and that's what I was taking.
Speaker 1: I was like, give you two. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know people on the East Coast they run scars.
Speaker 1: Maybe she funneling somebody in W two. Like we don't
Speaker 1: do W. We do T ninety nine. So I don't
Speaker 1: know who fun this is. So they okay, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you some time, and we're gonna give him
Speaker 1: time to let you know because we've already discussed this
Speaker 1: with him, so you never know what's going on. So
Speaker 1: they gave him Bamble enough time to say, listen, this
Speaker 1: is what I did. And they caught me slipping. But
Speaker 1: because we don't talk in the house, we're bringing notes
Speaker 1: and in the bathroom is the safest place where you
Speaker 1: can write but don't talk. So he has Yeah, they
Speaker 1: sent me on the phone with my sister that when
Speaker 1: I said I love you and she said she loves
Speaker 1: you back. They thinking somebody, all right, bet what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about the picture, But that's only her sister. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now now I get into defense mode. So then
Speaker 1: they take us both into the white room and they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: so do you want did you have a chance to
Speaker 1: discuss what you He starts going off on the doctor.
Speaker 1: I said, set your ass down. Don't talk to a
Speaker 1: man like that, because you know if you hit them,
Speaker 1: you're getting prosecuted. Like it's a clause in there. If
Speaker 1: you touch one of them doctors, you're you're getting arrested.
Speaker 1: For us all and then and then you're getting kicked
Speaker 1: off and you're not gonna get paid periods like you
Speaker 1: you already know the vibes sit your ask there, why
Speaker 1: are you being so defensive? What the fun going on?
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of nowhere, and how the fun?
Speaker 1: But if a motherucker's gonna do what they want to do,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that ship underground up in the air
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, We're gonna do what they
Speaker 1: want to do. Boom. So I had to play it
Speaker 1: off at that point, and I'm just like, damn, like
Speaker 1: should I'm out here trying to fix the situation. But
Speaker 1: I realized that situation even though it's marriage, but can't.
Speaker 1: I went in to fix myself because I already knew
Speaker 1: what the fun was going on, and I knew what
Speaker 1: the funk was hitting for. But I needed to face
Speaker 1: the reality that I was allowing my brand to be compromised.
Speaker 1: I was allowing my integrity to be compromised, which my
Speaker 1: dad told me never compromising integrity. I was allowing my
Speaker 1: personal space to be compromised, and I was by mental
Speaker 1: emotion to no physical, spiritual everything was compromised. So I
Speaker 1: needed those twenty eight days to break me down, because
Speaker 1: once I get out of this, I'm up and it's stuck.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, we've been saying that for years,
Speaker 1: what's up? It's up for you when it's because you
Speaker 1: know when it's up there, my heart, my daughter said,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, something like that. It's up in
Speaker 1: the stuff. So when they came out with a song,
Speaker 1: I was just like, it is what it is. So
Speaker 1: after that I realized, now it's trying to make your
Speaker 1: way of escape so you could stay and know the
Speaker 1: bullshit you dealing with and know that it's actually destroying
Speaker 1: your brand because once you don't know what they're keeping
Speaker 1: far as the footage, but once it's once it's out there,
Speaker 1: you already know what people's d m and you and
Speaker 1: sending you. You already know the truth. It's tough for
Speaker 1: you to face it. So me being a woman that comes.
Speaker 1: My parents are about to celebrate August night, they're celebrating
Speaker 1: forty years marriage. Both parents grew in church, grew up military, like,
Speaker 1: grew up bedtime, you know, a very lenient home. So
Speaker 1: what I was doing and how I grew up wasn't
Speaker 1: matching up. I was accepting things that I shouldn't even
Speaker 1: allow to permeate my space. So it was just like
Speaker 1: I had to make a choice. But when you're trying
Speaker 1: to leave a situation after the world was about to
Speaker 1: see like damn, I thought you was married this this
Speaker 1: is your third marriage. When they showed a thing like damn,
Speaker 1: bit a lady talking one time, every time I turned around,
Speaker 1: you get married. I saw a bit stop turning around.
Speaker 1: But then I had to realize for myself, fish stopped
Speaker 1: making permanent decision off temporary emotions. So I took that
Speaker 1: accountbating for myself. So honestly, marriage boot camp was for
Speaker 1: me to get my mentor together because it will put
Speaker 1: you in the space where you have no other choice
Speaker 1: but to fix fix it. Yeah, So it didn't complicated
Speaker 1: at all because I had a domestic uh case open
Speaker 1: with is a p F a protection from abused, So
Speaker 1: people a lot of people don't know, but people were
Speaker 1: telling me, But I was defending a situation which we
Speaker 1: know what the fun going on. I'm like, fuck you bitch,
Speaker 1: I'll beat your ass. Well, How'm gonna beat your ass?
Speaker 1: And I'm getting my ass beat. So I'm one of
Speaker 1: the people that followed through in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. You
Speaker 1: have to go three times to the court, and I
Speaker 1: went all three times, so I have a detective order.
Speaker 1: So with that, my divorces find on everything. I realized
Speaker 1: and dr Ish, the black guy, he came to me.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't ever con like. I don't
Speaker 1: never push for divorce or for people to break up.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just tell you mo once he said, Cynthia,
Speaker 1: that's my realm name. Once you realize who you are,
Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna make the right decisions and you're
Speaker 1: gonna level up. And I asked you this early in
Speaker 1: a different way. Um, so you were lady to marry
Speaker 1: j Blis when when she felt like that very much?
Speaker 1: And on Hot Boys video set because I'll start crying
Speaker 1: that when this one ship get real. Me, I took
Speaker 1: my used to always go with my sister everywhere. I
Speaker 1: always keep somebody with my family close because I don't
Speaker 1: trust the industry. Peoples will try to lie you. I've
Speaker 1: been I've been a situation with people try to on people.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to do with that. Um Mary
Speaker 1: j Blache had got and we were in our trailers
Speaker 1: and she was just shooting a scene and so for
Speaker 1: some way reason Hot Boys video shooting, I had my
Speaker 1: sister with me and my sister like, I want to
Speaker 1: meet Eve. I was like, let's go say how to marry?
Speaker 1: She with her sister, Lutalian Mary Grahamed. She was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I still have the picture to
Speaker 1: this day with me and my sister from the Hot
Speaker 1: Boys set. She was like, yeah, I got so. She
Speaker 1: used to call us the pretty Whig sisters. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got some pretty wig so mind you. I'm just
Speaker 1: getting the industry. And I meet Mary J. Blige and
Speaker 1: I'm so freaking hight. Mary says, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Don't trust under these motherfucker's and keep your family close.
Speaker 1: Why she sounds like Mary right now, like her, you
Speaker 1: just you just embedded her. She told me that that
Speaker 1: was the nineteen She said, don't trust sun of these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and keep your sister close, keep your family like
Speaker 1: your real family clothes because people will play like their
Speaker 1: family and they don't. But she was like, will you
Speaker 1: get your wigs from? I was like, oh, my friend
Speaker 1: got it from Flatbush. As she ordered the twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: she said the fuck No, paid twenty dollars and we
Speaker 1: just paid the thousand dollars for these to be floating.
Speaker 1: And I said, now we get these just from Flatbush.
Speaker 1: My girl, my whole girl. Yes, she buys. I give
Speaker 1: a hundred. She bought five wigs and she styles them
Speaker 1: up so while people are charging the thals and she
Speaker 1: getting them from the line, she the line, she just
Speaker 1: saws and she called us the pretty Weig sisters. And
Speaker 1: then after that, I never forgot this. So every time
Speaker 1: I see Mary's always loved. She always like documentary. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but I saw pieces of it
Speaker 1: because I saw it with me supposed and I saw it,
Speaker 1: I was just like, damn, that ship. I've I've seen
Speaker 1: tours with Mary and I've been a lot of her shows,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, I feel that I know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be on I was addicted to
Speaker 1: opioids ecstacy. When I googled you, um, that was the
Speaker 1: third and that came up was opioids And I don't
Speaker 1: exactly know what is. Can you explain that wells are
Speaker 1: like percosets and it's a narcotic But it started with
Speaker 1: prescribed pills. It started with prescribed pills because us as
Speaker 1: in the black community, when we think of opioids, we
Speaker 1: always think that's a white thing. Yeah we're not realizing,
Speaker 1: But I don't live in a black neighborhood. You know
Speaker 1: what's crazy is the soccer moms. That's who be lit.
Speaker 1: You wonder why they'd be so hyping the carras be
Speaker 1: so lit. I'm like, oh, she's on man's wait wait there.
Speaker 1: Mostly they don't mostly purposes. They mostly do zanix a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. Like when I was the amount
Speaker 1: that I was doing for my height and my weight,
Speaker 1: it was unacceptable. So how does this happens? You you
Speaker 1: break a fingertip or something that you go to the doctor.
Speaker 1: All my children I have five children, all five were
Speaker 1: born via since area. So they give you all of them.
Speaker 1: And what does that? People that they cut you open.
Speaker 1: You don't push it out your pal all right, so
Speaker 1: cut you so they got used mads. After that they
Speaker 1: give you they give you a spinal so they don't
Speaker 1: give you a normal apple duel. So that means from
Speaker 1: here on down, well, from the waist on, from the
Speaker 1: ribs on down, everything is sleep. And before you can
Speaker 1: even go see your kid, for real, and before you
Speaker 1: go you have to you have to move your feet,
Speaker 1: is certain things you have to do. So when you
Speaker 1: have a V a vaginal birth, you can literally go
Speaker 1: home the next day. We have a C section, you're
Speaker 1: doing five days automatically. It's literally the most it's dangerous
Speaker 1: because everything is sleeping. A lot of people they'll do
Speaker 1: V back, which is vaginal birth after Ssian. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to feel no labor, so I opted for
Speaker 1: all cesaria. But I realized now I was just getting
Speaker 1: necessary because I didn't want to feel no pain because
Speaker 1: I was gonna throw enough in my life. So medicate
Speaker 1: me and give me my perks. And then after after
Speaker 1: these you're saying, after the the highest level of men's
Speaker 1: that you can get. Because what I'm saying, when when
Speaker 1: did you become to your thought, did you was addicted?
Speaker 1: It's after all five kids, or this is in between.
Speaker 1: It was between really because of day was giving you
Speaker 1: because they'll give you the mass. And then when they
Speaker 1: when they come past the point where it becomes uh,
Speaker 1: doctors can't lose their license for overprescribing. So then we
Speaker 1: start going to the street to try to pay an
Speaker 1: extra money. A thirty on the street now sixty dollars.
Speaker 1: Before it was like sixty's a shower. Thirty is the highest.
Speaker 1: If you go over that, then you're just asking motherfucking deaf,
Speaker 1: you might as well just do heroin. But I never
Speaker 1: wanted to do heroin because I'm like, oh, now I
Speaker 1: can't see myself. Are you are aware of what's going on?
Speaker 1: Like you're aware that this is almost this is like
Speaker 1: considered real drugs, even though you know you're getting it
Speaker 1: from a doctor, Like did you ever consider that this
Speaker 1: is crazy? Or I didn't care? Okay, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm in the music industry. I'm a rock star and
Speaker 1: popp acts on a smoke weed and I did coke,
Speaker 1: never did heron, never did math. So I'm just like
Speaker 1: everybody else is doing it. You'd be surprised how many
Speaker 1: people at this Molly set. But I try to give
Speaker 1: him perket he wouldn't even make it. Will you try
Speaker 1: to get Future Perfect at a Philly show? And he
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it? He was like no recently, this is
Speaker 1: when this is about five four or five years ago.
Speaker 1: It was him Todd dollars on at the show and
Speaker 1: I tried and I was just like, what the fund
Speaker 1: is you doing? Mo? And he was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna perform like that. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, you're saying what are you doing? More?
Speaker 1: Because you hear you all listening to his Yeah, how
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the line because I hear a
Speaker 1: song and I automatically assume that's what he does, just
Speaker 1: because somebody says, almost shoot up the club. Nobody's yeah,
Speaker 1: Like just because people say it don't mean they really
Speaker 1: do it. We know, what's what's the way? Philly? He's
Speaker 1: in Philly and you come to him, and how do
Speaker 1: you describe this situation? You say, what's up? Bro? I
Speaker 1: go because I'm saying future for years, I've known it
Speaker 1: for years. Like so it's like aways a double cup,
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, And we were actually I think we will
Speaker 1: you know what you're trying to say that we were
Speaker 1: like we were actually that's that's make everybody drinks before
Speaker 1: this show because it's honestly it's a comment. But the
Speaker 1: double cut means scissor. That doesn't mean no, he didn't
Speaker 1: have that. We were actually making well I used to
Speaker 1: do to really like I don't understand how I'm still alive.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you because I've had a situations where
Speaker 1: I've had to be hospitalized. But we were making sandwiches
Speaker 1: and so we were getting a picture. I took it
Speaker 1: m throwing up a dome like damn, we would just eat,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yo, you're good. You want some.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got onto fives and some tens
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I'm good. He's like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to perform like that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I respect that. Fives and some tens just pink this
Speaker 1: green there's white, So fives of the whites, that's the
Speaker 1: lowest millgram thirties those are for the heavier us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what are we talking about? What is the perks
Speaker 1: of perks? What do you yeah? The person? Honestly, if
Speaker 1: you don't, it's a it's a pay man. It's the
Speaker 1: highest level of pay man. So when you're all them,
Speaker 1: you become aggressive because you feel nothing. You don't feel anything.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's it's almost like it's an upper So
Speaker 1: it makes you feel a cocai, but it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like you're invincible. So I won't be in here
Speaker 1: throwing it around. See when you start mixing stuff. I've
Speaker 1: been in places where I'm knocked it over. I'm gonnaknock
Speaker 1: all this ship over you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, damn, like I really let myself
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. But you you said a co car?
Speaker 1: What does this co car? I feel like upper so
Speaker 1: love story. It's just like I did. That was back
Speaker 1: in the days first you did cocaine with. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't do drugs in front of people really because I've
Speaker 1: always had fear or they're gonna have me looking crazy
Speaker 1: and my butt be out like some weird ship. I
Speaker 1: remember being high of X and I had to tell
Speaker 1: my manager at the time, like because she gripped me up.
Speaker 1: I was with Snoop and Joey i A and I
Speaker 1: was about to get hurts how and she was like,
Speaker 1: sit your ass down, don't you ruin this party because
Speaker 1: this is not your this is not your place. And
Speaker 1: I sat my ass down and I went in the room,
Speaker 1: and I remember crying because I thought the phone was
Speaker 1: on fire. I was like, can we please get my
Speaker 1: mother on the phone because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: this high. The phone was on fire and that's what
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like to me. Ecstasy is weird,
Speaker 1: so I stopped that. But I was chasing that high
Speaker 1: from purpose. Well, I hadn't done perks about it. I
Speaker 1: was just doing X halves and holes. I thought I
Speaker 1: was a rock star. Yeah, but I would sing a
Speaker 1: show and be killing it, so I wasn't like singing
Speaker 1: all weird and something. To me, that's what helped job
Speaker 1: rule is ecstasy. It helped a lot of artists. You'd
Speaker 1: be surprised they what gospel artists? Artists? Did you say? Gods?
Speaker 1: Who artists? They do drugs too. There's a couple of them.
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised because it's like artists just because they
Speaker 1: sing a certain genre music, you just never know what
Speaker 1: the person is going through. And not realized what I
Speaker 1: was going through. I realized that I was trying to
Speaker 1: cover the pain with pills, but it was actually destroying
Speaker 1: my spirit. So that's why I we're retalited. I'll be
Speaker 1: throwing shoes that bitches be trying to fight, Like the
Speaker 1: last straw was. I remember, I was off a pill.
Speaker 1: I was off a Zanni No, I was off Addie
Speaker 1: and a perk and my white friends take this. It's
Speaker 1: actually subscribed at a roller for actually is to calm
Speaker 1: you and to keep you focused. So it's those those
Speaker 1: pills aren't designed to make you go crazy, but when
Speaker 1: you start making cocktails and using them, it does your system.
Speaker 1: Just like, wait, what the going on? What was the cocktail? Cocktails?
Speaker 1: Alcohol to start your dad? So me being four eleven
Speaker 1: pos back then, I was like one fifteen? How am
Speaker 1: I still alive? So that's when I had to become
Speaker 1: an advocate because I'm just like, yo, this ship because
Speaker 1: once the high come down, you'd be so aggravated. That's
Speaker 1: when I started cursing everybody out. The funk you're talking about,
Speaker 1: bitch will pop out like what And a lot of
Speaker 1: people I had lost a whole, like a lot of
Speaker 1: fans like it was making the blogs. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: the stuff I promote, y'all don't post up, But when
Speaker 1: I talk crazy to people, that's what y'all post up.
Speaker 1: So I thought I had to had had the music
Speaker 1: and this on the radio. No, now I was on
Speaker 1: the radio because I know that we're radio. I had
Speaker 1: said something someone one time and they called the radio
Speaker 1: station trying to get me fired. I said, you can't
Speaker 1: give me fired, which I'm number one, so I became
Speaker 1: copy at that point. That morning show was hard to
Speaker 1: be number one, but people would call and complain. But
Speaker 1: then when they call and complain and too much, you
Speaker 1: just like, all right, I gotta fall back. But nobody
Speaker 1: would tell me because I wouldn't listen because she was
Speaker 1: on the y'all. Of y'all. Yeah, it was on the
Speaker 1: y'all to me. But but you think it's individuals. Literally
Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning going to the radio
Speaker 1: station to be there at five four, six o'clock show,
Speaker 1: Hi on my fucking mind. But I had another one show,
Speaker 1: so I thought, oh, this is what everybody does. But
Speaker 1: you think it's individuals that need this. You think it's
Speaker 1: it's industry white that everybody like the industry. They start
Speaker 1: this is the crush that everybody needs to deal with
Speaker 1: all the social bullshit. The you don't need it to
Speaker 1: deal with because a lot of people with the industry,
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with the bullshit. So if
Speaker 1: so many people, I can look at people right now
Speaker 1: because I've come from that high ship you think you
Speaker 1: regularly Now I really can't I could tell when she's
Speaker 1: I can literally tell, because it's not even the fact
Speaker 1: that maybe they popped the field. I can feel the spirit.
Speaker 1: You can tell I need to explanation. You could just
Speaker 1: tell by their mannerisms, Like like I can look back
Speaker 1: at interviews and I can tell when I was just
Speaker 1: sitting there doing all this like business because I'm naturally fidgety,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like I have an O. C D.
Speaker 1: Like I want to dust this able off so bad.
Speaker 1: But I looked back at interviews and I could tell
Speaker 1: how aggressive, how emotionally. Yes, I had what she was
Speaker 1: a radio okay, and you all thought she was when
Speaker 1: you get the radio show. Probably so, But I didn't
Speaker 1: care because I probably was hot too. I'll expect the
Speaker 1: answer what I talks. I'm a survival domestic violence and drugs,
Speaker 1: the things that I grew up in a Christian household.
Speaker 1: My dad's a bishop, my mom's an Avengers. So everything
Speaker 1: that they were against I became. But I had to
Speaker 1: draw the line because I have children. I don't want
Speaker 1: them to come back. My kids can read. My five
Speaker 1: year old reads on the sixth grade reading level from
Speaker 1: all right, So what was it? What was the moment
Speaker 1: where you was like, this is it for me? Um,
Speaker 1: don't tell me marriage? Boucan Now. I was after that
Speaker 1: because before I already knew I had to make a
Speaker 1: change and I had to stop. But I remember being
Speaker 1: told I'm gonna blow your hand off and you're gonna
Speaker 1: throw you over this balcony, and everybody that I had
Speaker 1: been unding and facilitating didn't help. So I knew only
Speaker 1: one place to run, and that's where I ran, and
Speaker 1: that's when I was just like I was tired of
Speaker 1: seeing and feeling like that. And honestly, I think I
Speaker 1: was more afraid of going through the withdrawal because a
Speaker 1: period you have to go through from anything from relationship, yes,
Speaker 1: it feels like death because I've tried it before and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I can't do this, Just get
Speaker 1: me a pill. But I was afraid of a withdrawal
Speaker 1: and it was just like you want to die or
Speaker 1: and be selfish because you have children, or you wanna
Speaker 1: start from scratch, and started from scratch literally means starting
Speaker 1: everything over everything. So I was just like, nah, I
Speaker 1: didn't have these five children for no reason. And I
Speaker 1: know they was tired to see him because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do stuff around up, but they could tell by my
Speaker 1: mannerisms and what was being posted online, like they can
Speaker 1: read and they can see. And when my son would
Speaker 1: come to me and stuff like look what somebody said,
Speaker 1: I would like get off the end the net. Stop.
Speaker 1: But that's all they know. Nobody watches TV. They google everything,
Speaker 1: they see everything. And I've also seen on Jason Lee
Speaker 1: show thing it's this podcast or something, and Jason Lee
Speaker 1: said he was asking you and you said that you
Speaker 1: went to a moment of depression, right, And um, I
Speaker 1: believe he said that you had to stay away from
Speaker 1: everybody at one point. Yeah, or what happened that? Then?
Speaker 1: Why did you feel like that? Because I knew that
Speaker 1: being around the industry and people it was toxic. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was them, it was me because
Speaker 1: I know that when I come around and returned, and
Speaker 1: it just felt like, as my now manager says, it
Speaker 1: feels like people were paying you to go to go away,
Speaker 1: And I said, what you mean about this, because it'll
Speaker 1: go from making a certain amount of night to people
Speaker 1: just trying to offer you anything, and just like, well,
Speaker 1: I'd rather get paid this this anything than do it
Speaker 1: for free. And it's just like, nah, I ain't nah, like,
Speaker 1: don't play with me, especially not now, and people I
Speaker 1: thought that they could play with me, even recently. And
Speaker 1: that's where I say it was a test to see
Speaker 1: if you're fall for the oaky dope or if you're
Speaker 1: fall for the bullshit, or if you're gonna stand on
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You came back to do and I
Speaker 1: had to stand firm or even things that I think
Speaker 1: would have pushed me to a higher visible position because
Speaker 1: everything now was about the lifestyle and they want to
Speaker 1: see you with the bus now rolling, They want to
Speaker 1: see what the aps they want to But I was flying.
Speaker 1: We was flying on Leo Cohen's jet in ninety nine.
Speaker 1: So when I see people and just I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I did that and I wasn't even you feel me.
Speaker 1: We had the bust that people who stole all the
Speaker 1: rings in the jury, Like I've been there, done that,
Speaker 1: So that stuff doesn't impress me. But I get it
Speaker 1: my kids, I get it. Kids are impressionable. So it's
Speaker 1: just like now I have to reintroduce a different glow
Speaker 1: so you might not see me with oh, or I
Speaker 1: had the grills I had and all of that I
Speaker 1: did that. Now the glow that has to be translution
Speaker 1: that people that will respect is the one from within.
Speaker 1: So when somebody say, oh, we want you to be
Speaker 1: on this TV show for twenty five the funk out
Speaker 1: in my my mortgage alone, I was told, don't step
Speaker 1: out your house. You can pay mortgage for since months period.
Speaker 1: Don't play with with, don't play with shout out the
Speaker 1: Organic Food Kings. Incredible. We got the truck outside at
Speaker 1: Organic Food Kings. Make sure you check them out. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be eating them all the time right now? Do
Speaker 1: you do you agreetum? Would you regret anything in life, like,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to entertainment, not even your personal
Speaker 1: just entertainment. I have no regrets. I have some reservations
Speaker 1: on things that I said and I did, and I
Speaker 1: always felt that, oh that's who I am, but honestly
Speaker 1: that's not how I was raised. So the fact that
Speaker 1: I get a second chance to revisit and people are
Speaker 1: just like, we believe you more, all right, Because when
Speaker 1: you don't realize who you are and people come to
Speaker 1: be like, but do you see what the is going on? Like?
Speaker 1: Why are you letting this happen? I'm like, my your
Speaker 1: fucking business, that's me. It's just like when you realize
Speaker 1: I don't regret anything. I wish I would have did
Speaker 1: things differently, but I wouldn't have got married three times.
Speaker 1: I should not have did that. I've let people in
Speaker 1: my circle, in my personal and in my spirit that
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even you think these men took advantage? Are
Speaker 1: you totally? Because Google nothing pops up but my name.
Speaker 1: So now when I see people like old nickas Baby Mama's,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, bo, look who they associated with.
Speaker 1: So how I'm on tour? I told with jay Z,
Speaker 1: I told fifty Cent, I told Miss l A, I
Speaker 1: told with y'all Rule Grand Stages, would Keith Sweat and
Speaker 1: Payla Bell, Joe LeVert, I've been on Jimmy Kimmel, I
Speaker 1: was on Jay Leno. I rocked all these shows before
Speaker 1: they were How the fuck is you over there with y'all?
Speaker 1: From the y'all from the y'all men y'all? So who's
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the game? Is it making the
Speaker 1: music or performing the music? Performing? I hate the studio.
Speaker 1: I feel so closed and I feel so stuck, and
Speaker 1: then I'll always go out and listen and I know that,
Speaker 1: oh you don't have to overdo it no more. You
Speaker 1: don't have to oversing but live, you can give it
Speaker 1: your all. So I really wish that I could sing
Speaker 1: songs live and then people know them because I hate
Speaker 1: the city and the energy you get from the WHOA,
Speaker 1: why would you hate the studio? I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. I hate being in the booth. I hate
Speaker 1: when the headphone like the studio I work out on
Speaker 1: One day, somebody broke the headphones that I'm used to,
Speaker 1: so when I had to use some new headphones, people
Speaker 1: might think that I'm just like, nah, I just know
Speaker 1: what I want to hear, clutching my ears a certain way.
Speaker 1: I'm just used to it. So I realized that maybe
Speaker 1: I need to to take the bus headphones out. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I bust like seven headphones all the time because
Speaker 1: all the way, So people be like, how do you
Speaker 1: listen to it so loud? You saying, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just want to hear it loud. I want to like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have it up, So maybe
Speaker 1: I want to step back from the mic because we
Speaker 1: can hear leading in I'm like, oh, well, you figure
Speaker 1: it out that to do with me. Hello, wow, No,
Speaker 1: just election, even though it was weird, it was yeah
Speaker 1: ye wow wow yeah. And you have a podcast as well. Right, well,
Speaker 1: I did the podcast like two years ago and I
Speaker 1: was traveling to New York. I actually had the little motion.
Speaker 1: We was running right above Medicine Square Gardeners. It was
Speaker 1: like a little situation was, um, I forgot the station
Speaker 1: that was over there. They had a nice room, was
Speaker 1: like a stage and everything. So I was doing a
Speaker 1: podcast and I just realized, like the artist side, you
Speaker 1: have to like pick a side with R and B
Speaker 1: because when you're doing interviews and you have to discuss
Speaker 1: uh current events and when somebody do something crazy and
Speaker 1: you have to talk about it, people think that you hate.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like I literally used to have to
Speaker 1: tell artists will stop doing dumb ship and we don't
Speaker 1: have to report so because I really have to focus
Speaker 1: on my craft and my glow. It's just like I'll
Speaker 1: do the podcast where like everybody has a podcast. Now
Speaker 1: everybody's podcast, and I'll be like there's some people I
Speaker 1: be like, don't nobody. Then you gotta say, like people
Speaker 1: just think you get on the took. They don't realize
Speaker 1: this production is you have to stay current content everything.
Speaker 1: But I learned that from radio. So I literally came
Speaker 1: from Major and learned everything from the artist side to
Speaker 1: the radio side. Yeah, so it's like now I know
Speaker 1: how to rock it. So once I do my show
Speaker 1: this time, I think it would be through the roof
Speaker 1: because I got the friendships and the relationships where I
Speaker 1: could call anybody be on. But you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: people care. And did you like the reality TV when
Speaker 1: you did it? I did. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's just like I know that the higher ups have
Speaker 1: their favorites. He've be like, well they you know these episodes,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what see. I'm a part of that.
Speaker 1: I'm a part of the industry, but I'm also part
Speaker 1: of the don't care society, So they'll be showing stuff
Speaker 1: on to you, like don't nobody care? Like what did
Speaker 1: you think? Nobody who care about? Right now? Every do
Speaker 1: you want to care about? Foolishness? Like if you're artists,
Speaker 1: they just want to hear you sing. People just I
Speaker 1: just look at the show you hate right now. I
Speaker 1: don't even watch TV. The last I watched movies, I
Speaker 1: watched movies. Okay, what's what's a good movie? I just
Speaker 1: watched the movie. It was at what was called I
Speaker 1: Saw the Devil and it's totally in It's Japanese but
Speaker 1: they have the subtitles. Yeah, maybe like he was, he
Speaker 1: was not a canible. He was dismembering people, but he
Speaker 1: wanted to be caught, but they couldn't catch him. And
Speaker 1: he killed the FBI Japanese FBI agents. Uh fiance and
Speaker 1: she was pregnant, so he started killing ship. She was training.
Speaker 1: What's that ship? Um um? Not hard boy, you hard boil,
Speaker 1: hard boil. I watched The Family guy, watched Total Comedy.
Speaker 1: Sat tired. Okay, it was a great comedy movie. You
Speaker 1: like Stepbrothers. Yeah. Me and my son were watching The
Speaker 1: Holy and like we'll go place. My son went to
Speaker 1: something one day, he went to up. He went to
Speaker 1: he started football workout and they was just like yo,
Speaker 1: just they tld my son just they was like, you
Speaker 1: missed three passions, you trash. She was like, well that
Speaker 1: guy was a rip off. My son is hilarious. He
Speaker 1: said stuff around me. I'm just like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if a son should be saying to a parent like
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Mom, yesterday was so hot, it was
Speaker 1: hot as tips outside. What son says that to their
Speaker 1: money getting a lot of money because he's raised right,
Speaker 1: Because no real hood kid is saying it's hot as
Speaker 1: tips outside. I've never life said that that word in
Speaker 1: front of my mother, and I've grown to this day
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll say boobs, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my kids. Really the worst things he could be saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stuff that my son says and the thing he's watching.
Speaker 1: If he's like from the hood in the hood, even
Speaker 1: as hot as right is allan and that's not a
Speaker 1: good thing. My five year old when he u he
Speaker 1: just got out of kindergarten, so they did have virtual
Speaker 1: and then they left them in for four days a week.
Speaker 1: The last day of school, he was like, yes, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot summer. It's lyddy as a titty.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna smacking away from me as Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: they just announced Bobby Brown against keep Swam. Yeah tomorrow,
Speaker 1: well July first, July one, so this is this is
Speaker 1: this would be out next week, so this had already happened. Ye,
Speaker 1: who did you pay back to the future Okay. So
Speaker 1: because I've worked with both, I haven't done this your
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Yeah, I keep sweat, So that's automatically my pick.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go against my prerogative, Well, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. Wait, new edition gonna be there. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just staying the bag. But they both worked with
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley, So honestly, this is really Teddy versus himself.
Speaker 1: Are we taking a shot? Are we taking the shot?
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot. I don't know where you're going
Speaker 1: with this because I was just like with Bobby Brown.
Speaker 1: He was the original bad boy. So my my brother
Speaker 1: three thousand times, no, my brother got a work one
Speaker 1: time when when my karaget came out, my brother was dancember.
Speaker 1: When our Send Your Hall was out, my brother used
Speaker 1: to be dancing and we were supposed to be in
Speaker 1: bad because my brother's finger. Yeah, and my brother dance
Speaker 1: and paragetive and he got a whip and my dad
Speaker 1: was like, I told you to go to bed and
Speaker 1: stop Bobby Brownie. So when that he used to punk
Speaker 1: and dance like the R and B singers used to,
Speaker 1: my dad said stop Bobby Brown and he was like
Speaker 1: that was inappropriate. So homies. Why y'all gotta dance Bobby Browning,
Speaker 1: I would like to learn that Bobby brown Why didn't
Speaker 1: do this now that we need brown You don't I
Speaker 1: want the Bobby. But the R and B singers used
Speaker 1: to go like this, This Bobby Bobby was the original
Speaker 1: bad boy. So he can't watch you. We watch you
Speaker 1: because we gotta drive you gotta relax. Yeah, you like
Speaker 1: do all this pandemic everything. You're a motherfucking about giving
Speaker 1: artists the flowers, and you deserve your flowers. You have
Speaker 1: always been there. I've never seen you, you know, with
Speaker 1: the sour puss face. I've always seen you happy. I've
Speaker 1: always seen you you didd working, busting your ass, and
Speaker 1: you just serve to be there. You deserve to be
Speaker 1: the legend that you are, and we want to tell
Speaker 1: you to this space we invented giving people the flowers.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. Everyone's saying, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's real talk. Everyone's saying that now. But we did
Speaker 1: this right here in the same exact place we said
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to interview the new artists, not
Speaker 1: because we don't got love for the new artists what
Speaker 1: we do, but they have the Hot Lady sevens, they
Speaker 1: have the Power one of fives, they have these all
Speaker 1: other outlets. Where's the outlets for the people who've been
Speaker 1: here ten years and more of the seasons and that
Speaker 1: still want to be here, and you know what, they
Speaker 1: deserve their flowers, And this is what we did. We
Speaker 1: don't want something to happen to you and say, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, this is what they deserve. So this
Speaker 1: is what we we. We didn't it been the whole
Speaker 1: flower thing, but we invented in the hip hop saying
Speaker 1: giving the people the flowers, just in case you don't know,
Speaker 1: you deserve your motherfucking flowers, the flowers. That's you're a legend.
Speaker 1: You're um and pursuing on do you did you? Did
Speaker 1: you think that when you first started that you would
Speaker 1: survive this long? No? Because I literally used to take
Speaker 1: it for a joke, singing or you know how people
Speaker 1: who have like, oh I grew up with Barry GORDONO
Speaker 1: I grew up with I grew up in a Stevie
Speaker 1: Wonder's house, or people had that story. I never had
Speaker 1: that story. I literally moved back to you saying his
Speaker 1: eyes on the sparrow, and um, Chuck Bone told me
Speaker 1: when I because I was gonna sign to uh different
Speaker 1: labels back in the day, but the lecture was the
Speaker 1: ultimate choice. Umpire Yeah, not only that, but was there
Speaker 1: it's not a get Yeah, I was supposed to sign
Speaker 1: a Tommy Boy. It was like certain labels that I
Speaker 1: had to boy. Hello, looking at your flowers soon, man,
Speaker 1: because he did make me a lot of I had.
Speaker 1: Who was I forgot the lady's name. She brought me
Speaker 1: over there, and she was like, I think she's gonna
Speaker 1: be amazing if I hear her name. I don't remember it,
Speaker 1: not Carolyn Will. She was kind of she was heavy
Speaker 1: saying I forgot her name, but she she might have
Speaker 1: not even really work there. Hello, because you know, people
Speaker 1: used to cat but we couldn't say nothing. You couldn't google.
Speaker 1: They was the assistant, but now a lot of assistants
Speaker 1: are executives. So I've seen it. But like, just like
Speaker 1: just looking over how I got in the door, Chuck
Speaker 1: Bone told me one day, he was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: you talk a lot of ship, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: I believe you could back it up. So I don't
Speaker 1: know where it came from. I literally were going to
Speaker 1: meet and act like I already had a record there,
Speaker 1: and I just always acted as if that. I was
Speaker 1: just like I already knew what I said and sought
Speaker 1: out to do. I didn't leave home at seventeen to lose,
Speaker 1: So even though I took some hits in between, I
Speaker 1: was just like, no, I'm always I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what game got driving motivation then, But
Speaker 1: now what motivates me is my children, because I love
Speaker 1: I love my kids like the pandemic was a blessing
Speaker 1: because ever since the age of seventeen, actually before that fifteen,
Speaker 1: I've been on the road. So I didn't know what
Speaker 1: it was to sit down my ASTs down. Four year
Speaker 1: I would have a kid and within six weeks we'd
Speaker 1: be out. We've been on the road. My daughter was
Speaker 1: on a tour in Jamaica with me. She's eighteen now.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, y'all literally ain't never set
Speaker 1: my eyes down. So this year I had to take off.
Speaker 1: I got to refocus, rebrand, revisit, reglow everything everything that
Speaker 1: we didn't get a defenditive answer of Bobby or keep sweat.
Speaker 1: We didn't get a defensive answer. Okay, Bobby was the
Speaker 1: bad boy, but Keith Sweat, it's almost Likenel and then
Speaker 1: still coming home, yeah yeah, yeah, getting people. Bobby he
Speaker 1: won one of his joint Honestly, I think the safer
Speaker 1: true I've never heard. All right, I would have to
Speaker 1: choose Keep Sweat for safety reasons, right because he got
Speaker 1: to Jerry drib not even that okay, but Keep like
Speaker 1: we've never seen him. But Bobby was a bad boy.
Speaker 1: So I would hang out with Bobby, but I would
Speaker 1: ride get a rod home from Keith Sweat all because
Speaker 1: Bobby he gonna strow cocaine everywhere. See, I've never seen
Speaker 1: him do. But Bobby just used to be some print
Speaker 1: ship and because they came from Louis ship. He just said,
Speaker 1: I've read some stories about James. I was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was lit when they said that man who told
Speaker 1: that story? Where did I hear that? On the table
Speaker 1: he threw the cocaine at the President. He was by
Speaker 1: brown fried chicken with cocaine. Now, that's that's pretty out
Speaker 1: of control. That's like, you know, like the flower the
Speaker 1: bat weed better, but then cocaine, cocaine got you gotta
Speaker 1: be asketball. That's expensive. That's who said that's in his book.
Speaker 1: He wrote that somebody wrote it was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put something I don't even know you could fry coat,
Speaker 1: and then that's crazy. Man, I'm saying you're cooking cold.
Speaker 1: That's a chicken. I wouldn't even think, like I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hot. I don't know how I started putting
Speaker 1: it in his book, in his book. And not only that,
Speaker 1: when I met Bobby Brown a getting like the third
Speaker 1: time and I met Brown, said what's up? He said,
Speaker 1: man I performed. He said, we used to be hurting
Speaker 1: your projects. That was the most I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let men tell yourself. Stalking that ship because I used
Speaker 1: to live in South Side, Jamaica, so I would have
Speaker 1: to go to beauty school. So when we were pasts
Speaker 1: left Rock, I was like, damn, I want to meet Noria. Now.
Speaker 1: I used to always think like people atomic like you
Speaker 1: draw pass and Nori would be there. Would I would
Speaker 1: have been. I used to be scared because left Rank
Speaker 1: is like Iraq, So it's just like you just don't
Speaker 1: go from Jamaica States where eventually moved to States. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very rich, you're very rich. Yes, hold the buildings.
Speaker 1: So the building I lived in like, what the dad?
Speaker 1: So he owns it now, but it's just like damn
Speaker 1: like and you can't get out those contracts. I'm probably
Speaker 1: stilling it today. So when you overall the music industry,
Speaker 1: overall entertainment, what does your overall look at it? Like
Speaker 1: you happy, you satisfy? Are you sure that you luck
Speaker 1: you you feel great that you participated? Or this is
Speaker 1: something that if you had a chance to do it
Speaker 1: all over you would pick a different career. No, I would.
Speaker 1: This is the only job I've never worked at FedEx
Speaker 1: only I went to The most I've ever done was
Speaker 1: went to hair school. So this is all I know.
Speaker 1: So honestly, I think I would have stayed more. I
Speaker 1: would have student more firm. And I've never been associated
Speaker 1: now I have a team. I just always been associated
Speaker 1: with people, so I was never I was always torn
Speaker 1: with Murdering, but I wasn't never signed to them. I
Speaker 1: was torn with Missy, but I was never signed to
Speaker 1: I went on the Rock the Mic tour, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't signed the jay like the people that made the
Speaker 1: calls and be like, yo, we want you to run around.
Speaker 1: So it's just like I was never I was always
Speaker 1: affiliating associated with things, but I never had anything for myself.
Speaker 1: So now that I have a chance to rebrand, I
Speaker 1: wish I would have done it sooner because I think
Speaker 1: I would be yummy. I would own everything because I
Speaker 1: know the way I think, but I would put people
Speaker 1: in positions to pass me. But I'm not doing that
Speaker 1: no more, and I think that I should have done
Speaker 1: it sooner. But I get it. I didn't know the game.
Speaker 1: I didn't have the management. Yeah, Like I was literally
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things by myself. It felt like
Speaker 1: I was paying people to be my friends and to
Speaker 1: be around, so they would be management. It would be
Speaker 1: certain things. But I'm just like, wait a minute, like
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't right. So I really thought
Speaker 1: it was the inertainment industry, so I was thoroughly and
Speaker 1: highly entertained. But it's the music business. So I did
Speaker 1: the music, but I didn't handle the business. So now
Speaker 1: have a chance to get it right. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm back for my second goal. Like you,
Speaker 1: nobody can't kick me at it. And I've never only
Speaker 1: think I've been kicked out was high school and they
Speaker 1: had to let me back in calling yes call, that's
Speaker 1: the brod answer because it's still the daytime. Okay, were
Speaker 1: let's see, But so what happened? So what happened when
Speaker 1: you heard that this versus battle between me and BBC?
Speaker 1: Where was at um? I was literally peeking on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I saw it peeking and I saw you running
Speaker 1: in like a sweatsuit, and I saw you post I
Speaker 1: saw him posting up beings just like Yo Norri, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, see me and Beans go way
Speaker 1: back like years. We did park a lot of people
Speaker 1: with jay Z together, so that was a great experience.
Speaker 1: He shot a video, I did the song if you
Speaker 1: want to f I used to visit that Halfwayhouse, Like
Speaker 1: that's family, so much like I hate when I have
Speaker 1: to because friends are family that you're not related to,
Speaker 1: and in his family that you're not even blood related to.
Speaker 1: But like I used to visit him at the Halfway House,
Speaker 1: and there's times that he saved my life, so I
Speaker 1: had to like kind of just like it's just like
Speaker 1: I've never heard this when people just tell you get
Speaker 1: off the streets. Why he was in the streets, Dad,
Speaker 1: Hevy that used to be like Bean Easy the boy
Speaker 1: street Polly had to tell you to get off the streets. Well,
Speaker 1: I had to tell what it wasn't not like no
Speaker 1: no running around like hanging up like I'm sad like
Speaker 1: and he had to say he basically tell my people
Speaker 1: is just like yo, like that's dope what you did
Speaker 1: with mom, Like my people literally came home. It was
Speaker 1: just like I don't like what people saying behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: We gotta clean you up. And I'm like, damn is
Speaker 1: that bad? And this is being saying that to you? Well,
Speaker 1: be like because he called me little cis. So it's
Speaker 1: just like like, sis, what did you doing? Like how
Speaker 1: you go from this to like you can't you can't
Speaker 1: move like that. You're a queen, your royalty, you're a
Speaker 1: treasure in this industry, and you're a mom. Like beans
Speaker 1: has cooked dinner for me and my kids. That nig
Speaker 1: is a chef, Like he cooked stuff that he cooked
Speaker 1: seafood better than the seafood because he don't even eat seafood.
Speaker 1: So it's just like we have history. So it's just
Speaker 1: like I'm glad you mentioned nothing about music. Thank you?
Speaker 1: What no once? He once it's a rap, It's just
Speaker 1: a record call. Sometimes I want to cry and pray
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not sure if you heard that. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, God from Jamaica state. It's not Jamaica,
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm just like, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great The reason be because your personalities, Like I love
Speaker 1: that y'all. Don't just be acting weird like I'm just
Speaker 1: playing around. I'm just playing around, like I just try
Speaker 1: to gas it up because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I did, you know, reach out to Swiss and him.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say they ignore me, because
Speaker 1: that's not the truth. They did, you know, acknowedged me.
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't bring up Oh, I see
Speaker 1: what you are doing. I see that, you know. So
Speaker 1: I said, I figured, you know what, let let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me help hype it up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this could happen because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Beans is my friend, Beings just
Speaker 1: my brother. But at the time when I said your beans,
Speaker 1: come outside, what I said, it's like come outside and
Speaker 1: get some money, like come outside, like like like we've
Speaker 1: been hearing about you for for or four minute. Let's
Speaker 1: come outside and let's work. And it doesn't matter like
Speaker 1: whether we do the bad or not. I want to
Speaker 1: do it. But at the end of the day, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when I hit you know,
Speaker 1: brothers and they and they and they don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to say that didn't hit me back, and they
Speaker 1: hit me back, but either one of them was like,
Speaker 1: what's up, let's do this. I see what's happening. And
Speaker 1: I've known I know from the you know, backside who
Speaker 1: they want me to battle like quiet as probably crept
Speaker 1: from what I heard. They was like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people was leading towards me with Cameron. I
Speaker 1: don't think Cameron is gonna do it. I don't think
Speaker 1: not because you know, I think he's just you know what,
Speaker 1: I what do you want to do? So I tried this,
Speaker 1: I really, I really really tried this. I hate Pete Crack.
Speaker 1: I hit everybody, the young guns and you know I
Speaker 1: didn't hit young guns. Excuse me. I missed young guns
Speaker 1: and I hate um Bleek. And the thing is, the
Speaker 1: thing is I don't own versus, so I can't make
Speaker 1: it happen. But I did everything I could do to
Speaker 1: make it happen. I did everything I could do to
Speaker 1: make it happen. I did everything, And that's why we
Speaker 1: got Bees. I wanted to have Bees calling today. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell him my time. I didn't tell him my time.
Speaker 1: That's probably party part. I funked up everybody. We might
Speaker 1: have him here live at the show, and then we
Speaker 1: might have here live at the show to promote it
Speaker 1: some more. Because I want to go in there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I wanted to. I think the culture
Speaker 1: wants it. I think we want people des like I
Speaker 1: love versus but now in the popularity's contest, because I
Speaker 1: was like, who you who you want to battle? I
Speaker 1: don't want to do like how D'Angelo did me and
Speaker 1: some friends because I don't know if people know about
Speaker 1: get away with that, because everybody do you want to?
Speaker 1: I think that would have been lit with me versus her,
Speaker 1: and we would have been because because we've actually toured
Speaker 1: together and the love is huh you wrote no, but
Speaker 1: we both work with like I work with Murder inc.
Speaker 1: And then when we felt like she carried the torch
Speaker 1: now she's getting Walk of Fames like that would have
Speaker 1: been lit. And I think of the coaraderie because we
Speaker 1: have history and like we've done shows together, like when
Speaker 1: I want to do it right, Okay, I think that
Speaker 1: would have been let's do a realistic who you think
Speaker 1: you um that didn't battle yet? Who should do versus
Speaker 1: with me? With you? Because I've wrote for a lot
Speaker 1: of people, So I would have to battle a nigga
Speaker 1: na just like we're missing. It's like, whoo, why can't
Speaker 1: battle dude? Yeah, like who says it has to be?
Speaker 1: That's a misogynistic or that's sexist to say that I
Speaker 1: have to battle another female to give me a female
Speaker 1: and a guy. You think you can give me both
Speaker 1: that and let me take a shot for that. But
Speaker 1: my cocky is jay z ship. I don't know he's
Speaker 1: not doing we shouldep R and b you and usher
Speaker 1: see I should be he would have to go against
Speaker 1: a chrisp Bar. It's almost like when I came out,
Speaker 1: I was doing what I did, so people came before me,
Speaker 1: but then they were people that came after me. So
Speaker 1: you can't battle who came after you. You feel I
Speaker 1: was doing wrap hooks. I was literally more hip hop.
Speaker 1: Who honestly that would be a good batte that being
Speaker 1: good a battle in English? Sis? So mark, but we go.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I saw people say you should do
Speaker 1: a battle because it was like yeah, should do you
Speaker 1: a battle with four y'all. I'm just like, no, my discography,
Speaker 1: even if you may not have heard the song, and
Speaker 1: in my fan base like don't like don't play with
Speaker 1: me like I wrote for Janet and Teddy Roley. So
Speaker 1: I have a song called girl Broker, like don't play
Speaker 1: with me. I'm not one of you could do Janet Jackson.
Speaker 1: So the song Girl I vocal produced Whitney Houston on
Speaker 1: the song. You know what I'm saying, Like, my my
Speaker 1: foundation is strong. I didn't just get in like just
Speaker 1: writing songs and then just featuring and just being around.
Speaker 1: Like I looked at my discography one day and I
Speaker 1: was just like, wow, I forgot I did that, or
Speaker 1: people will remind you to be like sis, don't never
Speaker 1: forget who you are. So now that I remember, it's
Speaker 1: not on No Cocky Ship. But it's just like I
Speaker 1: did all this by myself, Like I had Missy be like, yo,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I remember standing in the boot of Whitney
Speaker 1: Houston and she given me a Fisherman friend because I
Speaker 1: was so nervous my throat dried up and she was like, no,
Speaker 1: that I do that, do that? And I was like
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did. I was so scared
Speaker 1: to play it back and tell Whitney Houston. What do
Speaker 1: I remember Broker reducing Jerald LeVert and he wasn't singing
Speaker 1: a note wrong and all Star telling me no, he
Speaker 1: did the no wrong. I was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, I know what I've done everything.
Speaker 1: I remember working with jay Z and him telling me
Speaker 1: you want to go a tour, like, please don't discredit
Speaker 1: my backstory. Don't worry about what I was saying, you'll
Speaker 1: wah a lot of people up. They better be careful
Speaker 1: because when you see Cynthia loving or because yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I was counting. I was just like, I got
Speaker 1: twenty in the possibles, a couple of possibles because people
Speaker 1: are like, oh you know one hand was like no,
Speaker 1: like I've done features and they are so that went
Speaker 1: see everything now they think it's viral. Rachel got so spancial,
Speaker 1: so he probably would have to battle. He would have
Speaker 1: to battle another guy. I used to vocal produce him.
Speaker 1: I did work with him too. Yeah, and I remember
Speaker 1: he used to be cutting up in the student They
Speaker 1: was like, no, make him saying, I'm just like he's
Speaker 1: not gone shore. But to this day he hugged me.
Speaker 1: We did a show with Live Nation. It was the
Speaker 1: Femine Forward Tour. He was there. He he was just
Speaker 1: like yo, and I interviewed him for Ready, who was
Speaker 1: like MO, like I survived the turn up. We survived
Speaker 1: the turnop. So seeing him go through, he's still in
Speaker 1: the turnop, but he survived. He was outside and I
Speaker 1: was around when he would go to the studio and
Speaker 1: be running around and be like, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to be like, come get your brother. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call Mr new Land and her dad. So I've
Speaker 1: seen him go through, but I get it. He grew
Speaker 1: up in up. A lot of people expect so much
Speaker 1: more from you when you grow up with both parents.
Speaker 1: When you're get in this industry, you're literally alone and
Speaker 1: you're finding your way. Your sisters already established, your parents
Speaker 1: are really dedicated to making sure y'all win. You rebel.
Speaker 1: I was a rebellious one, so I understood. So when
Speaker 1: I saw the list of things that he's accredited, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, don't sleep. He's not one of those. He
Speaker 1: he really has everything he said he was. He's a
Speaker 1: go get it a lot of people didn't understand that
Speaker 1: before was how you just run around you to know
Speaker 1: I was just running the rup. No, I'm not one
Speaker 1: of those. Please don't take away what God has blessed
Speaker 1: me with because tell nobody to challenge you. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: would love to do it versus how D'Angelo did bring
Speaker 1: people out because then people like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to battle nobody because they go saul for sault. My
Speaker 1: catalog is extensive. I've worked with you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So it's just like it might be not be something
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, or that I said, ain't gone that
Speaker 1: you didn't know that, Oh that's me, and it'd be
Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that what you're saying on that and wifey and like
Speaker 1: stuff that I've done, or that it was my know
Speaker 1: that's me singing even though that's the records. Wife will
Speaker 1: you be my wife? Yes? Wifey? Yeah? Or that I
Speaker 1: like what I did when you move up close to me.
Speaker 1: They didn't know I was. I did a lot of
Speaker 1: background work but it was safe. But I was pregnant
Speaker 1: the time, so I couldn't be in a video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. We love that you love the baby. Who's
Speaker 1: that they was trying to they they was trying to
Speaker 1: do that Holy morning about the morning. So we're laughing direct.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I was pushing the
Speaker 1: button tell you something. I can't thank you enough. I
Speaker 1: really I want you to know that this is your
Speaker 1: platform whenever you want to come back. We got the
Speaker 1: new and want to hear sposed that's yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, tell us about this new record. This is
Speaker 1: because I can finally talk about it, because like once
Speaker 1: we were setting it up, it was just like one thing,
Speaker 1: I wait for the paperwork to get in. And so
Speaker 1: once I got the paperwork and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I'm getting I get to talk about Shining Star
Speaker 1: and it's new glow Um. Yeah. Coming back into this industry,
Speaker 1: you have to realize the lane you created and you
Speaker 1: have to stay in it. I'm not trying to compete
Speaker 1: with these new artists because I realized they got their
Speaker 1: own goal and they're very popular and social media. Have
Speaker 1: you been thinking that, oh bitch, you washed. But I
Speaker 1: reached out to a lot of people. Ye know, I
Speaker 1: got this record. First, I did Broken Heart, which we
Speaker 1: did during the pandemic. It came out on my birthday,
Speaker 1: but we recorded on my birthday, came out with my
Speaker 1: daughter's birthday. Independent, fully independent, the Faculty Music Group. This
Speaker 1: is my business partner's label. So it was just like,
Speaker 1: because you have to separate the artist, I have honey Chown,
Speaker 1: which like, I'm a loan out company. So when you
Speaker 1: get so when you see me, it's just like, how
Speaker 1: you have this, that's a little more at all. It
Speaker 1: was just like, so you have the hardest and you
Speaker 1: even though it's independent, it means that we do everything ourselves.
Speaker 1: So all my relationships, all my connections, now I get
Speaker 1: to maximize. People say, I've been this game for twenty years,
Speaker 1: never called nobody for favor. It was popping. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need that. So I reached out to a couple of artists, Hey,
Speaker 1: sent you to record different records. I need you on it.
Speaker 1: And the day t Pain reached back when we sent
Speaker 1: him Shining Star was in March. He sent it back
Speaker 1: and who was the day that he announced the social media?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not know that all these
Speaker 1: people whatever that day was, he emailed me when he
Speaker 1: dared me back at midnight, So I was damned. Asleep
Speaker 1: and he came up. He pay him me back. He
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, mo, I literally just
Speaker 1: saw this message. So me they get his cap like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, no, he did just post. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that the request because when they don't follow you, you
Speaker 1: don't get to see it even though you're verified. So
Speaker 1: he's like, I got you. I said, a lot of
Speaker 1: people said they got medst real good. I met him
Speaker 1: like almost twenty years ago. A lot of people said
Speaker 1: they had me that I had didn't get me. He
Speaker 1: had me. He sent it back and he did his
Speaker 1: I literally called my manager, was like, T said the vocals.
Speaker 1: I was on some DJ Kalish, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know he said the vocals. He was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I got my record coming out. Let me get some
Speaker 1: vocal rest. And I got you. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna send it. He sent it the session
Speaker 1: and everything, the clearest, whatever you need. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: people don't do that. I do that. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't have that type of integrity. Speak to my management.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I understand that I have my people speak
Speaker 1: to your people, but they they're pussyfoot or monkey. Put
Speaker 1: you along the way was good because put it for
Speaker 1: this when you tipped, yeah, bullshit. You send me the
Speaker 1: email read in front of my email right now and
Speaker 1: they won't send it back. He sent it back. He
Speaker 1: did like I said earlier, he did his part so good.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shiot. I didn't even think he
Speaker 1: was gonna do that much. We went and did my
Speaker 1: part over. When I say the soul is a back,
Speaker 1: it's literally better of fact, it's next week week. It's
Speaker 1: because we got a coded today. We gotta code it.
Speaker 1: It's up. I was literally just waiting on the artwork.
Speaker 1: But when fatmis Hoop sent his part, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I need you to hype up this record, like what yeah,
Speaker 1: because people haven't heard his voice in a while. He
Speaker 1: had COVID. He did his part. He was like, yo, mo,
Speaker 1: I want his doctor seppy ship the record. Don't have
Speaker 1: but the power of sending stuff via email and I'm
Speaker 1: sending it back and me sending it so scooping New York.
Speaker 1: I'm in Baltimore. I don't know where Tea Pain is.
Speaker 1: He's all over because he has his show. Plus he
Speaker 1: was working his record with Kalani. So I sent the
Speaker 1: record to l a to be mixed, sent it to
Speaker 1: somebody else to be mastered. So the power of being
Speaker 1: able to push send, and I was just like, this
Speaker 1: record Shouting Star is not only to empower women, because
Speaker 1: this is women are dominating the industry. It's also to
Speaker 1: me super woman and forever because people keep on calling
Speaker 1: me from my own ship. I'm just like, we've I've
Speaker 1: commemorated that. That's twenty years old. We celebrated that. Now
Speaker 1: it's time to celebrate the new, the glow, the vibe,
Speaker 1: the sound, the one that you love back then when people,
Speaker 1: Oh my, I grew up to your music and my
Speaker 1: mother used to play. Now you're about to grow up
Speaker 1: to this new glow. I haven't missed a beat, my
Speaker 1: voice hasn't changed. I've been through some ship I could
Speaker 1: sing about it. Broken Heart was the record we really
Speaker 1: and that's available on all streaming platforms now all my
Speaker 1: first two hours based on the Truth story, and Meet
Speaker 1: the Girl next Door finally on all streaming platforms. So
Speaker 1: I missed twenty years of streaming. Whatever year streaming came out,
Speaker 1: they just added October during the pandemic, so we're running
Speaker 1: it up. So now I'm just like now, that I
Speaker 1: have this second chance. I'm gonna put out some new
Speaker 1: music and I don't have to try to sound like
Speaker 1: everybody today. I still have my sound, but just to
Speaker 1: let people know, like I'm coming. What's that record you
Speaker 1: got when you were like, um, I think it's like
Speaker 1: at one point five million views? Thing's t O P
Speaker 1: and A something like that. When you're talking mom, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you can leave. Would lead a car nigger?
Speaker 1: All right, So that's that's independent as well. That's well,
Speaker 1: that was on the first album. So that's that's on
Speaker 1: all that was twenty years ago. God, I just so
Speaker 1: happened to like God preserve me for the sound of
Speaker 1: Pandemic was good. I got a lot of rest and
Speaker 1: much needed glow. And it's just like once I realized
Speaker 1: that people don't want to hear or see none of
Speaker 1: the other bullshit. They just want to hear you sing
Speaker 1: mo and they want to see me in power. Like
Speaker 1: now I realized that had the ditties and had the
Speaker 1: Jays and had them had they survived through. When the
Speaker 1: industry shifts and change, you have to put new people
Speaker 1: in position. So I see who's hot. I see the
Speaker 1: artists that are coming up from the hers to the
Speaker 1: summer walkers to the scissors. That's the that's the vibe.
Speaker 1: My daughters love Kailani. I know who they love. So
Speaker 1: I'm just like reaching out like yo, no, not with her,
Speaker 1: but just to see but see the mutual respect and
Speaker 1: to see how she came up and then then she's
Speaker 1: in position. I was just like, I respect that. And
Speaker 1: from the rappers from the Klos to the Malibu Mitches
Speaker 1: to the I got songs with them, to see I
Speaker 1: have more sons of rappers? Do I have it? But
Speaker 1: I've known him since he was bird. We used to
Speaker 1: when used to have the cutouts and my what it
Speaker 1: was like, can I have to kind of? So I
Speaker 1: respect them. I respect how you're moving. But I'm a
Speaker 1: writer too, and I'm a hardest and I'm sensitive about
Speaker 1: my ship. So it's just like, you know, I respect
Speaker 1: and people just like yo, Mo, it's good to see
Speaker 1: you still doing your thing. So to the the young
Speaker 1: artists that are coming up to the lottos like big
Speaker 1: lot of I reached out and I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: like I see you doing your things. I saw, yes,
Speaker 1: the rappers like they are doing that. She changed the
Speaker 1: big lot of but it's just like to see everyone
Speaker 1: doing their thing. Sam A Slim got one more question? Yea,
Speaker 1: now it's up, it's up, So where is the next
Speaker 1: for a little more. We're pushing this music because we
Speaker 1: literally before we even got here, I got a call
Speaker 1: about a reality show and to hear my managers say,
Speaker 1: they always want to dwell on the past, and people
Speaker 1: want to say shows they we want you to be
Speaker 1: on the show about heartbreaking this, but I'm past that,
Speaker 1: okay if it ain't about this new glow. Even on
Speaker 1: two shows, I literally turned down and I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: and this is all due respect. There shows that want
Speaker 1: to I say, salute or gift flowers. They push their
Speaker 1: movement and they want you to be a part of it,
Speaker 1: but they don't want to pay. So it's one thing
Speaker 1: to promote and the and the do sit downs. But
Speaker 1: if you want me to perform, don't tell me what
Speaker 1: your prices. You didn't even ask what my price was.
Speaker 1: The bag is out. I saw how much rappers baby
Speaker 1: mothers are gett paid. You're not gonna say, oh I
Speaker 1: got fired to what I'm gonna like? What am I
Speaker 1: gonna do with that? What cost five thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: this day. I'm not trying for a performance. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna offer me that which I'm not washed. You're gonna
Speaker 1: this is the prices that we set and you might
Speaker 1: as well pay it now or pay later, because trust me,
Speaker 1: it's about to run up. I know the game. This
Speaker 1: is chess, not checkers, So don't play with me. I'm
Speaker 1: not one of them. You're not gonna pay somebody's baby mother,
Speaker 1: they don't have no songs out to come there and drink.
Speaker 1: But then asked me to come do the same thing
Speaker 1: in saying that's a separate feet. It was a major
Speaker 1: people who try to book us. It was like, we
Speaker 1: want you to come this this, this is okay what
Speaker 1: that's all the card? So that's ten thou for this? Well,
Speaker 1: sh bitch. As soon as I grab that microphone is up.
Speaker 1: I get it. But that was a test to see
Speaker 1: if I would accept the less. No, you want greater,
Speaker 1: you gotta do greater. And I realized, now you gotta
Speaker 1: work hard now, just like I did in the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm a new artist, so people know the
Speaker 1: whole little more. But the new MO, the shining Star
Speaker 1: MO that's out. Now. You gotta push what you're promoting.
Speaker 1: You gotta respect the brand. You gotta respect the grind.
Speaker 1: You gotta respect my work, my work ethic. I don't.
Speaker 1: I just now started getting some sleep because the pandemic,
Speaker 1: but I haven't had no sleep in twenty years. Paul,
Speaker 1: like you feel with Paul Bunyan slept after this and
Speaker 1: motherfucker grew a beard because I shaved far I got here.
Speaker 1: You feel me. So it's like, I'm not sleeping and
Speaker 1: I know what my hand calls for. Nobody's gonna play
Speaker 1: in my face. So from the verses and have to
Speaker 1: be meat plus friends because I don't want to battle nobody.
Speaker 1: Because when you realize, damn, she did that. When I
Speaker 1: realized all that I've done, I've commemorated on the shows
Speaker 1: that I've done for free, the tours that I've been on,
Speaker 1: and been in the middle of the airport and be like, damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta get home, and motherfucker's cut you know, cut
Speaker 1: me off in the middle. I realized I was always
Speaker 1: out here. I had a couple of people with me,
Speaker 1: But now I have a team. You're gonna respect the team.
Speaker 1: Javante Tavis he just went. He from Baltimore. I saw
Speaker 1: him grow up as a younger, and I like what
Speaker 1: he said. We're just like you're the team, my team,
Speaker 1: stay on me. They are things I do. Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? What's that have to do with you? Deleted?
Speaker 1: Somebody may have screened but deleted. That's not you. There's
Speaker 1: a new you. You have to reinvent yourself if you
Speaker 1: want to go to the next level. I reinvented myself
Speaker 1: and people don't respect it. That damn makes some noise
Speaker 1: for that. Thank you. We can't we can't think. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to close it out, but I
Speaker 1: got to close it out in the shot. Yes, five
Speaker 1: o'clock somewhere. Yeah, might as well. This is this is
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