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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drinks Motherfucking Podcast. Mason,

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segre It is your

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Speaker 1: boy in O R E. He's a Miami hippop pioneer.

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Speaker 1: Up is d J e f N. Together they drink

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Speaker 1: it up with some of the biggest players in the

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Speaker 1: most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one sort for

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Speaker 1: for drink Champs, Trink Up Mother Mother? Would it good?

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Speaker 1: Beat Hopeully's would it Ship be? This is your boy

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Speaker 1: and what up is d J E f and his

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Speaker 1: drinks has? Motherfucker yad cast makes up? Look And when

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Speaker 1: we're talking about legends, we're talking about legend legends you

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Speaker 1: talking about I believe came out since Nanty six been

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Speaker 1: out here, monkey Foot in the game doing when she

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Speaker 1: gotta do, got Hits, pawn Hits, dominated the music career,

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Speaker 1: then went on, uh you know, did tours all that

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Speaker 1: while being a mother, you know, holding down the mothership.

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Speaker 1: Then also went and dominated reality TV. As Wow, you

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Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. She came a little late, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get we gonna get straight into it o'clock. Girl,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about I don't worry about what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about mout So let me ask you right this big

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Speaker 1: controversy that's going on right now with Trick Daddy saying that,

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Speaker 1: but Yance can't tang right, I gotta start there because

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Speaker 1: you being a singers singer, you're like, like, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you went to church, like you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's throughout that all that. What do you what do

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Speaker 1: you hear when you what do you think of when

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Speaker 1: you hear people say that about the Queen Beyonce? It's

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Speaker 1: the audacity for me, Like, if you don't sing, you

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Speaker 1: don't have no room to tell who can't sing? If

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Speaker 1: you don't like something, then you could give your opinion nobody.

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Speaker 1: Because I had this honestly, I had this conversation a

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Speaker 1: week ago with Trina. I was like, what you think

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Speaker 1: about people automatically putting you in that because that's your people.

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Speaker 1: She was like, no slander for the queen will be accepted.

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Speaker 1: You feel me, it's just certain things. Beyonce is our queen,

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Speaker 1: so us as singers, us as artists We have seen

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Speaker 1: her pushed through since she was fourteen fifteen Rocket Hills

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Speaker 1: on the Runway on the with the Celettos, dancing from

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Speaker 1: group to now being a mom, to being a solo

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Speaker 1: artist to flying in there. Nobody does that in music,

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Speaker 1: So you're going to respect that. If you don't like

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Speaker 1: the way she's saying, don't listen period. But but I

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Speaker 1: believe what he was trying to say. It's like because

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Speaker 1: Betty Right is like, like, um, that's like she's the vocalist.

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Speaker 1: You rest in peace to her. So so is he?

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Speaker 1: Is he when he thinks that? Is he comparing Betty

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Speaker 1: Right to be honest? Is that's what he's doing with that?

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Speaker 1: I had saw with like how he tried to He

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Speaker 1: never he never backed down. He stood firm in his opinion.

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Speaker 1: But he yeah, But he was trying to say, like

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Speaker 1: Whitney Houston and h he named other days Anita Baker,

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Speaker 1: Gladys Night, Beyonce is not that type of artist, like

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Speaker 1: she can go there because she's done the movie like

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Speaker 1: Ella fish Gerald, Uh, where did she do? La? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: all yeah when she yeah when she sings like she

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Speaker 1: could give you that. But she's all around entertainer. We've

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Speaker 1: never seen Anita go up in the air and sing

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Speaker 1: upside down. We've never seen Anita do the booty hop.

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Speaker 1: We've never seen Whitney. Whitney can say she came straight

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Speaker 1: from church and that's what she was. But from a

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Speaker 1: singer's perspective, if you honestly have ever been in any

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Speaker 1: of their presence, you can see they have difference. Asks

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Speaker 1: like me and her don't even sound like So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who could do what you do,

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Speaker 1: but you can't do what they do, and vice versa.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, since he does this thing,

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Speaker 1: I understand his opinion. But let's just be real and

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. This generation, if I ask my kids

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Speaker 1: right now, my oldest is eighteen, my youngest five, have

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Speaker 1: you ever heard of needy? Who that you feel me?

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Speaker 1: They know who Beyonce is, They're not gonna know who

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Speaker 1: a Betty Right is. So it behooves us to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is y'all Betty right? What this is my Betty Right?

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Speaker 1: So honestly, yeah, it's the generation, this inneration. Don't be careous.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you all my kids don't care

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Speaker 1: and then you care about me perspective, What does it

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Speaker 1: take to be a real true singer? From your perspective,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be key because people be. You ever see

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Speaker 1: people they'll sing there, they'll wrap their song and then

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Speaker 1: when they get live, you're like, why is you yelling? You?

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Speaker 1: But your hands up like it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But although to honestly save the music industry, the sound

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Speaker 1: has changed since I came out. I started touring in

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Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety one. I was still in high school,

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Speaker 1: so my uncle took me on tour. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I got to learn sound and tone, pitch control, all

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Speaker 1: he'll call me. He'd be like, what's that diaphragm doing?

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Speaker 1: Because don't get out there just hollering. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: the technical part of singing, there's only a couple of

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Speaker 1: people who get it. And it's not even your throat

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Speaker 1: and stuff, which was a formal auto tune because you

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Speaker 1: it actually balances out, you know, the note that's supposed

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Speaker 1: with it. I am Pop and the guy who invented

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Speaker 1: knew she couldn't sing, and said, I need I swear

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Speaker 1: people automatically think auto tune auto makes you sound good,

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Speaker 1: engineer know how to balance it up because there's melodine,

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Speaker 1: just and I'm like, I use auto tune because they

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Speaker 1: it's like pitch correct. It's auto correct. So have you

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Speaker 1: That's a gift basically. Yeah, if you're just like if

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Speaker 1: you have a saxophone, if you all what it's gonna do,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be squeaking. But even when you use the

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Speaker 1: a whole different skill. Yeah. I always use like reverb

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Speaker 1: the acoustics on it's gonna make you feel something. But

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Speaker 1: the dome, the sound goes up, it's not gonna sound

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Speaker 1: to I want to captivate that same sound as if

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Speaker 1: we're still here. So have you ever heard that there's

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Speaker 1: lot of shows with rappers to this day, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: don't use reverb, they don't use auto tune, they don't

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Speaker 1: use delay, they don't ye period. Oh my god. So um, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's think it from the beginning. Right when we google,

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Speaker 1: I was going to Long Island Beauty School. But um,

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Speaker 1: now my job still ratchet? Okay, but who what version

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Speaker 1: of Missy is this, this is, this is I Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some songs that I had reference for artists because I

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Speaker 1: So it was submitting songs, but I was like, none

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Speaker 1: this day, like still the respect is dead. That's dope. Now,

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Speaker 1: when I googled you, this is something that that that

425
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Speaker 1: probably got a little crazy for me, right, not not crazy,

426
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Speaker 1: not crazy, but it was like when I when I

427
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Speaker 1: was got deeper, they put all of your husband's right,

428
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Speaker 1: they put your husband's out. Husband's husband was actually the

429
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Speaker 1: dates and the time. And I've been wondering who did

430
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Speaker 1: get information? Who is the Wikipedia, Google god wizard of

431
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Speaker 1: all that knows all this because it'll be something and

432
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Speaker 1: I've been like, what, I ain't even remember that. It's

433
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Speaker 1: somebody that big brother. Maybe it's the government defense, you

434
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Speaker 1: know what the defenses. But yeah, I saw that tip.

435
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's how did you feel when you've seen that.

436
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Speaker 1: I was just like, it don't exist to me anymore,

437
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: anything pre pandemic, don't exist to me anymore. I handled

438
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Speaker 1: my business. I realized that was the top I can

439
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Speaker 1: admit and I take full accountability of. I didn't know

440
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Speaker 1: how to separate the artists from the from the human,

441
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Speaker 1: so the person from the from the person, so meaning yourself, yes,

442
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Speaker 1: so little more, there's little more, and then Cynthia, there's not. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: And there was a time where I think that they

444
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Speaker 1: messed together and that I should have never allowed that

445
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Speaker 1: to happen. Um. I just watched Mary J Blige on

446
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Speaker 1: My Friends show The Breakfast Club. Mary J Blige said

447
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Speaker 1: for years she didn't know her worth, she didn't feel

448
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Speaker 1: worth it, So how can it hasn't ever been a

449
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Speaker 1: time where you felt like that, like really, so you

450
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Speaker 1: could be on the cloud, you could be getting all

451
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: this money, all these shows coming things, and everything is

452
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: running up, but then you sit back and you're just like,

453
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Speaker 1: I can really be just trying to give me anything,

454
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Speaker 1: And something like that recently happened. I think those are

455
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Speaker 1: tests because then it's just like it comes to say,

456
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Speaker 1: let me see if we can still get you and

457
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: I'd be like, nah, I used to didn't say no.

458
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Speaker 1: I literally used to pop up to everything and oh,

459
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Speaker 1: you know someone still having the part. I'm outside your

460
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Speaker 1: someone so much you're singing this. I'm gonna send the vocals.

461
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: But then I realized, wait, I said the vocals back

462
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Speaker 1: that same day. Why it is taking them so longer? Yeah,

463
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: we're going a different direction. I'll be like, man, you

464
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Speaker 1: and your direction. You feel me so? But then I

465
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Speaker 1: realized I was literally taking things per snoop and my

466
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Speaker 1: team literally broke down to me. That was just like, yo,

467
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: this is business. Stop taking this so personal. So once

468
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Speaker 1: I separated those two, that's what I know. It's up

469
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Speaker 1: from here on. Now, Okay, we're gonna jump in a

470
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Speaker 1: quick time and slim. You're gonna do it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it it music. I'm just clapping this. This this

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Speaker 1: is good, all right? All right? So this quick time

473
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Speaker 1: and slim, it's called obviously it's cool, quick slip slap.

474
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Speaker 1: All of this is. We're gonna give you a multiple choice.

475
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Speaker 1: It's just too you just pick one or the other. Now,

476
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Speaker 1: if you're going to pick both, you get a shot

477
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Speaker 1: ready already you want to pick both it's cool, it's cool.

478
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Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot. And we just figured out

479
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Speaker 1: recently if you say neither too, we gotta take a shot.

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Speaker 1: All right, but the good things, Yeah, I don't want

481
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Speaker 1: to take the shot if you pick one, but if

482
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Speaker 1: you pick both, because you sincerely mean both, then you

483
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Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. But but the good thing about

484
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Speaker 1: it is we're gonna take a shot. We're not gonna leave.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I feel like the number two is

486
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Speaker 1: going to be the one. Oh my god, see you,

487
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but you gotta chair invested that. We

488
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Speaker 1: gotta invest in that week I'm missing. You could blow

489
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Speaker 1: your face if you want. You know what, it's a

490
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Speaker 1: COVID band's never let's go babiries. So you ready racist

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Speaker 1: nas or j like far at no, no, no, just

492
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Speaker 1: whatever you wand just remember if you don't, if you

493
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Speaker 1: want to be politically back, you can take a shot. Now.

494
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, okay, you gotta give me a breakdad,

495
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Speaker 1: Like if it's the looks that everybody know not snakes

496
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Speaker 1: weren't to you in your far as business? Ja okay, alright, cool, alright,

497
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Speaker 1: is freaking a job or fifty as far as what Okay, ship,

498
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Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that, all right, fab or Jada kiss? Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's that calling? I know, mel Melah, what's It's the

500
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Speaker 1: same thing. It just depends on the engineer, Melodon, Missy

501
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Speaker 1: or Trina take a shot. No, I would say Missy

502
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Speaker 1: because Trina would say Missy too, because Missy like helped

503
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Speaker 1: a lot of us. She literally so journal truth doesn't

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Speaker 1: his motherfucker? Okay, that's fire um Beyonce at least the

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Speaker 1: keys Beyonce. Okay, uh ninety I mean nineties hip hip

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Speaker 1: hop times two thousands hip hop? Wait? What's the two

507
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Speaker 1: thousand hip hop? Because honestly, that's the cut off was

508
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Speaker 1: about two thousand and three when it started again shaky

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Speaker 1: because if we talk about em C like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a rocket two thousand five, then I say, because I

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Speaker 1: didn't listen to the eighties, that hip hop hipot and

512
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Speaker 1: the hibvot that really wasn't my my twist. So I

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Speaker 1: would say, like when m C l D Nice and

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00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: like when yeah, nineties and nineties to now, alright, cool,

515
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Speaker 1: you you got these two. You gotta take a shot

516
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Speaker 1: for New York or bottom are I love New York

517
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Speaker 1: just different. Ok, you gotta take a shot for this one.

518
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Prince like say, you have to be

519
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Speaker 1: more specific. I'll just take a shot. But I would

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Speaker 1: say Michael, yeah, because Michael used to like he wanted

521
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: to do this side. He always did up to stand

522
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: like Chris got something his ass out to stand out.

523
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Speaker 1: He did. But they both go out to the point

524
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Speaker 1: where they were telling us who was going down, and

525
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: then soon after they were telling us what the real was.

526
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Speaker 1: They were. They were more conscious than the brothers with

527
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Speaker 1: the beads. You think about it when you're thinking about it,

528
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: that they be superwoken. Yeah, you need to go to sleep. Yeah,

529
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: it was smart. Was Michael was telling us Earl everybody's catalogs. Yeah,

530
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: and they was like, oh, you can't do this. He

531
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna buy your whole life.

532
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: He bought the Beatles cattle and the Elephant Man's balls.

533
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: How do you even know there was for damn sale?

534
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: How Like it wasn't no Google like elephant man balls

535
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: or balls? What is that man? He had? He died

536
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Speaker 1: in the Elephant Elephant Man in real life and Michael

537
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Carnival dude, Yeah, they said he bought it was at

538
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: the house. What was it work? I'm sure he had more.

539
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably he probably got ship my old

540
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: wing like that was the one that came to was like, Michael,

541
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: so we know you did thriller and we're just going

542
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: over the royalties for that. But they have the elephant

543
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: man balls will sell you. Think about that conversation period. Okay,

544
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: I show Chris Brown Chris only because I threw that

545
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Speaker 1: money and Usha said that about the Auto two and

546
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Speaker 1: then used it like, oh so after I got to

547
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Speaker 1: be so after he told he paying that note thens

548
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: right here after he told he paying that he ruined music,

549
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I should use the old truth for real. This is fact.

550
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: No one thing about Twitter and social media. They're pull

551
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the receipts and so they was like, wait a minute,

552
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: this you. That's when they do that. This you and

553
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, when he did let me let Me

554
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Love You down, that's all Auto too. But you never

555
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: know what the engine's using on your vocals anyway. The

556
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: only people that's honestly flawless. This is rare. But when

557
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, when you know, yeah, that record, that was

558
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: definitely he knew what it was. Okay, radio or podcasts.

559
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: Podcast Yeah, because radio is so political and they'd be camping.

560
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I think radio used to be hiring me just so

561
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: they can fire me to say that. They because I

562
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: really used to be doing nothing. We're gonna get into that.

563
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that. Okay, Farrell, Kanye, oh my god,

564
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: give me a shot. Because Kanye is a master, but

565
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Farrell's a genius. He's got to explain yourself. Don't worry

566
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: about Oh my god, let me drink some water. Damn,

567
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: you look a little. I'm gonna do a half cut

568
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: of me. That's some of watermelon. They're gonna have to

569
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: send me a pack that you don't go for it.

570
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear right now, Okay, hold on all right,

571
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: DMX or Tupac like it's certain it's certainly yeah, because

572
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: X had had an impact because I knew him in

573
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: real life, so he was definitely a vibe and you

574
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: could his presence is still felt. And even though I

575
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: worked with Pop but never met him in real life posthumus,

576
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I got it was just like I literally started getting

577
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: tattoos because I loved Tupac worked when we did shows again,

578
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: just never met him. I did he did. Yeah, he

579
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: has like yo, if you ever get the chance to

580
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: go to his house and like he has videos and

581
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: footage before all that was like like really the way

582
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: and I used to watch videos like he would have

583
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: like videos and Nate everywhere out there golfing like like

584
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: he was like filming people before it was cool. And

585
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: he has documentary worthy footage of stuff and you just

586
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: sit there and watching like dag, like what made you

587
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: think of this? He's a freaking genius. Respect a loyal respect. Okay,

588
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: I respect that, uh, Cardi b or Nicki Minad Nicki

589
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: that personal No, nothing personal, nothing at all. But like

590
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: if you like that's almost like saying because Nikki blazes

591
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: the trail. She's she's a legend. She's been out like

592
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: when you giving like how many like she's been in

593
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: the game, and she's she's been through things and we

594
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: got to see it and she she set a tone,

595
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: she set a standard. She go, she all go. So

596
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: I get it. It's honestly totally different. You've been both artists,

597
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: nick and Cardi. Yeah, okay, yes, it's nicer to you.

598
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's real cool with me anyway, Nobody ever really like

599
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: I met Cardi when she was still doing Love of

600
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: Hip Hop. So I was doing radio that and she

601
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: was like we was doing at the time. I mean

602
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: not Baltimore because we was Baltimore. It was between we

603
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: did Baltimore and I did d C. So at that

604
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Speaker 1: time I think I was at k yes, okay, yeah,

605
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: all right, um, major independent indie. But that's only because

606
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I was major before. So now what I would say,

607
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: go major, learn the games, and go indie. I can

608
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: get it with that, so I don't have to take

609
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: no shot. Oh God Jesus like em. Like. The reason

610
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: being because when I was in high school, I used

611
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: to think I was like so bad. So once I

612
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: met I was like yeo. I literally told I wanted

613
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: to be you so bad. And the love song when

614
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you say you love me it don't you've been thinking

615
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: to egantistical and just work. But what you say, I

616
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: take none of this seriously and that's when we stipp

617
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: the right out the world. You couldn't google it. So yeah,

618
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: like empt like that's honestly one of my biggest this one.

619
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Speaker 1: I don't know this is up in the end, all right,

620
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Kim or Foxy, honestly hold your shot. I'm gonna take

621
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: it anyway. Yeah, because I'm a person, I go by

622
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: my own opinion, and I would. I would, honestly, I'm

623
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna take my shot because I'm gonna say both because

624
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: had it not been for them, there would not be

625
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of females that are doing with it. Like

626
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: what Kim did, the crouching posted people. Oh my god, Yeah,

627
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: she broke down barriers. That was that was like there

628
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: was a no no back then, like, oh my god,

629
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to do She broke down barriers when she

630
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: had her booball at the MTV Awards Mesa Stalda. Oh

631
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Speaker 1: my god. This is course a controversy. It's always controversial

632
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: when a black woman does it, but it's so chic

633
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: and cool and acceptable when other races do it. So

634
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: she broke down racial barriers that we wasn't doing. Foxy

635
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: was spitting like a nigger when she came out. Girls

636
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: wasn't spitting like that. Like I go back and listen

637
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: to her over she was going to win. So I

638
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: respect that she was in high school. Goddamnken for that,

639
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: God damn South. So you gotta respect it. Let's tell

640
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: us something right must be admitted in the game, right.

641
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I had Tyler Quality stand here. I was sitting the

642
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: same chair that you're sitting in. Ty Live said to

643
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: me one time, he said, sometimes we're male privileged, And

644
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: I had never heard of that. He's had male privileged

645
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: and he said, mal, well, basically what male privileges we

646
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: don't understand sometimes what the sisters go through. We don't

647
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: understand what women go through and hip hop and the

648
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: music business and entertainment period. So can you shot something

649
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: light on people? Like, let's just say we're just coming

650
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: under a rock. We don't know nothing. What are some

651
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: of the things that you're gonna have to face as

652
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: a female in this entertainment. First of all, if I

653
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: would have came here and I had a makeup on,

654
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: it's just anything. If I would have came here, my

655
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: nails wasn't done, or at least dress night. This just

656
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: wore anything, really like, so it's a standard. And honestly,

657
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I just think that literally wore anything today, literally literally

658
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: literally literally did that. So I'm sorry, holy ship y'all,

659
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: but really, women, we as a as a black woman,

660
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you judged all day

661
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: like you can't go to if you can't go to

662
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Dwayne Weed without Well, thank god for the mass mandate,

663
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: because if we don't have to wear masks, they would

664
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: expect you to wear a full beat and be slain

665
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: and snatched. The whole pandemic like in the airport, how

666
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: they made the whole bonnet controversy. That's the wind rags

667
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: all the time. It's not for a female, do rag?

668
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: You mean? Sometimes I run out with my bond and

669
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, I forgot, but I

670
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: don't want my edges to be laid. Like literally before

671
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: I pulled up, I took my star for because I'm like,

672
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: if I go in there with this one, if somebody

673
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: sneak a picture, they go out this a bit just anything.

674
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: So people just say whatever they want about females. Males

675
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: have the privilege they don't have to go to sound

676
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: check I'm pretty, and they're not allowed to. Like now

677
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: it's a standard where you know a lot of people

678
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: they want to walk around bust down from the risk

679
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to the to the to the ripped up like now

680
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: everybody want to look esthetically, you know. Correct for women,

681
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: if you just had a baby, they expect you to

682
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: day because us there are certain people just like, damn,

683
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: how she have a baby and she don't even look

684
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: like it. Let you come out and have a baby

685
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: and a year later your body is still holding onto

686
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: that weight or that stressing, that postpartum and you have

687
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: a breakdown. This crazy everything will be held against you

688
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: as a female in this industry. And I can attest

689
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: to that because I've I've dealt with it. I have

690
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: social media. I ever got on your your nerves where

691
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: it's like you didn't want to, you didn't want to.

692
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: Is there any like a room whatever spread through social

693
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: media that wasn't true that got to you. I used

694
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: to I used to realize that I would react to everything.

695
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: I think. It's my Napoleon comparens on what they gotta do.

696
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: Is I accept all? And I think my service like yeah,

697
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: because I know what I'm sure. I always know that

698
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: my personality has to be big. So when I enter

699
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: the room, I'm just like my whole way is T'm

700
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna get out this motherfucker. And I have like a

701
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you have a walk in someplace, you'd

702
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what the vibe gonna give.

703
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: I already knew what it's gonna give it head like family.

704
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: But there's places I go I'm like like, like what

705
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: is given? So I don't know what I'm gonna have

706
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: to do with sometimes to be higher places, but you

707
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know who y'all lying you. This is real, like

708
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: people trying to get you there just so they could claim,

709
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: or they'll pay you to come somewhere just to be

710
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: on some bullshit or they're paying, they're just like, yeah,

711
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep on pushing it back, like not the fun.

712
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I have an O C D complex as well. It's

713
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: like if I'm late, I literally have a mental break

714
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: that they'd like, calm the funk dead, like stop acting

715
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: like that. But I realized I've learned how to overcome

716
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: some of my insecurities what they call them. But I

717
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: just like, no, it's just certain things that I've dealt

718
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: with all my life. So it's just like scorp that

719
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: novem me pup draking and people people think that we're weird.

720
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: We're just missundersmelling you come out all right, you don't

721
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: like noc is. I just feel that everybody wants to

722
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: be a Scorpio because we think four people. So I've

723
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: never got into anything or seeing anything on the internet.

724
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: They're one things that I've seen and I'm just like,

725
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't even go with that person no more deal

726
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: with them. So it'd be all something. I'll be a

727
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: people like, yeah, well what about that time. I'm like this,

728
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: that was two years ago? You still thinking about I

729
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: don't had a whole another I have a whole another

730
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: life now, like, and I know that people love to

731
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: live in the past, but they don't want I don't

732
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: live there no more. So if you're still there, then

733
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: you know I'm not there anymore. So I used to

734
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: react to everything. People would say something. I'd be like, bitch,

735
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: we'll pull up sinnaty, we hunt you damn. And that's

736
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: weird because you say that to people. Yeah, yeah, you

737
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: gotta stop that. Yeah, I was wilding out, but honestly

738
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: that's when I was get high. So you mean, so

739
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: you telling me there should be people on Twitter. I'm

740
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: assuming Twitter slash greatest place on Earth because like you

741
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: can use it for the whole school on there. It

742
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: was this one girl said something and I because that

743
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I come from jokes like yeah, and then the whole

744
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: school jumping, and I was just like yeah, but look

745
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: at this bitch that go to your school. I just

746
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: kept on pulling that one thing I've learned, it's like

747
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: when you're getting it. I'm around all comedians a lot

748
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: from Cat Williams, like just to certain people, so it's

749
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: like that's all we do is joke. But I realized

750
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: that people can't take a joke and those people they

751
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: don't know what. Let me just tell you, you're also petty.

752
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, because I'm a petty president and you

753
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: described he just cribed a lot. But I've learned, so

754
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: you so yeah, what y'all used to call it jonah

755
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: joking cracking snap. Yeah, so we're snapped. So I'm thinking that, oh,

756
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: if they follow me, they know what I'm giving. They

757
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: know with vibal on. So when I realized people are

758
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: getting offendsed like why would you say that? And I

759
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: was just like damn, like they was in college. I

760
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: don't never best with nobody kids. I don't play with

761
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: people kids. I don't even play with my own Like

762
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: it's your certain levels. You know what I'm saying. But

763
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: if you're on the internet and you come for me

764
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: and you're a kid, I would like put your mother

765
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: on the phone because if my child did that, I'll

766
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: be like, don't you disrespect? Nor don't I'll play that

767
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That's where I joined the line.

768
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: But you never know who's who behind that, but you

769
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: could pretty much tell when they try to say something

770
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: corn of your kid, you feel me. But I had

771
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: to get out of that because that's like a defense mechanism,

772
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: which I realized was a part of my complex because

773
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: I always felt that I had to defend myself. So

774
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: I realized, stop, you know, reacting to everything ignored. Why

775
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: do you can't you feel me? Because if you're pre

776
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: social media, you're gonna yeah. Because like we literally, me

777
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: and Missy who were sitting in the studio, we used

778
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: to joke like all day. That was as soon as

779
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: we get there, we're working between but it was just

780
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know this, Nick ain't got don't know

781
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: goddamn so and it was just like just keep going

782
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: and going. We would joke for hours but begin to

783
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: to hit records time. So that's what I was used to.

784
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: So when I thought I was sharing my personality, I

785
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: realized people were taking it personal. And that's where you know,

786
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to join the line and realize

787
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: everybody and your friend and every but everything ain't funny noise.

788
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: You guys are far too fine. Was hot boys came?

789
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Boys drop them before? Yes, it was like literally it

790
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: was like a domino effect. Okay, once we did hot

791
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: boys didn't put it on? Everything came Okay, So how

792
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: does how do you get this call for put it

793
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: on me? Is it seven? Will call you? Rules? Call you? Okay?

794
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Described the score and I was in I was in Baltimore,

795
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Baltsmore in North Carolina. I was somewhere and um, I

796
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: got the call. Was just like listen, his albums already done,

797
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: so I had already. Did I cry? You did? I

798
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: cried first? Yes, the album was done, the album was even.

799
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Put It on Me came out first. Put It on

800
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: Me was already on the album. But the word and

801
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: the way that I got it was like, um, after

802
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: they did. I think the song. I think it was

803
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: every little thing that we did. I think it was

804
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: that one um the big records, and I think DMX

805
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: was coming out. It was like def jam used to

806
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: be a machine, but if you ain't selling soon amount,

807
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: they will drop or shield your ask. Because here's how

808
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of thought of it, and um,

809
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: you tell me every little thing that you do was

810
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: out before Putty put it on me. Yeah, okay, I

811
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: didn't remember that. I can't tell you that. So that

812
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: was that was a single that was running around him

813
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: and Christine a million, But I guess it was what

814
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was like dying down and

815
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: so IRV was just like, yo, I need you for

816
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: this record. The record is done, but you know I

817
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: need you to come up with that right track. Studio.

818
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: There was the engineer, I said, everybody get out. There

819
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: was the engineer. Young girl. You know what that you

820
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: know what it is? Young girl? A little girl. Yeah.

821
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: I went in there and I literally didn't write anything down.

822
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I started. I would take me from the top and

823
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my way down. So I started off

824
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: with the intro and I sang it between and like

825
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I literally did it like homework. I started from the top.

826
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: See me to tell me when you walk in the studio,

827
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: they don't have this already laid off for you know.

828
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me what to say, what this thing

829
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: that was for you? Yeah, a lot of people, but

830
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: that's how I work. Is just like play me something

831
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: or play me a beat. I'm gonna do what I

832
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: do and I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna kick everybody out

833
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: the room because when I'm in my space and then

834
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: in my zone and I know that it has to

835
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: be a hit record. Like Missy told me that too.

836
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: Don't let nobody in it because if you were working

837
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: as a school teacher, if you work at scientists, yeah

838
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: nobody can stand on. But some people are having a

839
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: million people in there. In my anxiety, I'd be like,

840
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: can y'all please get out? Because of my message? Why

841
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: I like that having a million people that I started

842
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: writing rhymes in jail, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

843
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: it's horrible. Um, yeah, so I was used to noise.

844
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: I was used to like you know, like what I

845
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever seen Malcolm Max said he

846
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: used to sit down and look at the light and

847
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: he would read. I would do that too, but I

848
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: would read to write rhymes. But if you at jail

849
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: at night when you're writing rhymes, it's the most awkwardest

850
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: sounds every but it's chaos. So you're here, dude, oh

851
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: miss my mom, you're here due jerking off and you

852
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: like like like Yeah, it's just created so many It's

853
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: so so I got used to And first off, I

854
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: used to had the right rhymes to the radio station.

855
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have beats in jail, so I would hear

856
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: a radio station, I would have to write my room

857
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: over over you. So I got so used and accustomed

858
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: to that that if I have peace and quiet, I'm

859
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: not at peace and quiet I needs because if I

860
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: hear something, I'm like, what's going on over there? I

861
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: can't focus. But I've learned how to focus, but I

862
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: don't want nobody in there because if I mess up,

863
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm shrinking. So it's just like,

864
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, literally less, it's more for me, And it's

865
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: crazy it happens. You got the right track and corner

866
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: studio with the gold door because Guro had his own room.

867
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: So I literally had to do the song that day.

868
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: And then they scared me because they was just like, Okay,

869
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: well you can't leave yet because Leo's coming. Wow. And

870
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I had met Leo previous to that because I was

871
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: gonna sign a def jam. Tina Davis and Kevin lost

872
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Davis an empire right now, Kevin, now that you're still

873
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: on the elector at this time. Yeah, yeah, I was

874
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: on the lecture at that time. But um, I remember

875
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: Leo came in and he was standing there. He was

876
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: just like like, you know, he's he doesn't give you

877
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: expression or emotion. He's man of little to very little emotions. Yeah,

878
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: he was like, this is a like I'm just like

879
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: a man. That was it. And literally once we recorded

880
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: the record, IRV was ahead of the game whether dem

881
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: jam was gonna prove it, approve it or not. He

882
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: was already on the sky Tell texted all the p ds,

883
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm about to send your record. So during mixing then

884
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: we sent it out, he was like, you ready to

885
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: be the funk out of here. I'm ready to be

886
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: the fun. And after that the floodgates open. So Hot

887
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Boys already introduced me to the world, put it on me,

888
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: gave me the world. So wow, that's that was hard.

889
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: So so at one point you and Jabu had some discrepancies, right,

890
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: is that before I cried? You know, you say I

891
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: cried was recorded prior to that. But I think I

892
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: seen you on one or six in part one, right,

893
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: and I think it was a G unit type of thing,

894
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: and I think you kind of I'm correct. Already sounds crazy. Um,

895
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: and I think what you accused him of was you

896
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: said that they didn't pay you for the record, so

897
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: they didn't pay you for the video or something like that.

898
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was for anything. Wait, wait

899
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: a minute, what not even publishing them? I later got

900
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: two point five later. Yeah, you have to fight for it. Yeah, okay,

901
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: but that's why God makes some mistakes. Yeah, so I

902
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: did the record. The album has already done. Put it

903
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: on me, I cry, Okay, I cried. It's cool that

904
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I got my right percent. Put it on me once

905
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking off it had it had did some many

906
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: weeks on one of six in Park at number one.

907
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: People were accusing because they said, def jam be paying

908
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: for number one, but they were like, no, we can't

909
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: fake a number one here because you have to actually

910
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: call in and they have to tally like with the

911
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: radio station when you get requests, you have to literally

912
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: keep a log of it or if you could get

913
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: in trouble. So we would number one so much that

914
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: they had brought us on to retire the record, and

915
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to time. I don't I think we

916
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: would have first soldier boy, we was the first to

917
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: retire record. That was when we retired. We literally had

918
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: to retire because people were other labels and people were

919
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: complaining like, how can we can never get number one?

920
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Just like nobody wants your record to be y'all are

921
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: not getting that many calls. So I'm thinking I was thinking, like, oh,

922
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: this record been out, that check gonna be crazy. I'm

923
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna have as Martin would say, whoo woo whoa woo

924
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: who And when it wasn't a woo woo whoo whoa,

925
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: I had began to inquire and I'm just like, well,

926
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: what's up. I didn't charge your fee for it. I

927
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: drove up there on my own dime, this and that.

928
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: But what I see now is is if you don't

929
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: handle your admit, that's when I'm really strict. And the label, well,

930
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: the independent label that went now the Faculty Music Group,

931
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: we're real ship, Like we'll have the song literally, I

932
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: have the song on my phone, but until we get

933
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: the clearances and the splits are agreed and all the

934
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: paperworkers right this record, You're kid the light of day

935
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: because you have to be. You never know what song

936
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: will be out of here or you know what I'm saying,

937
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't handle my paperwork. But after that I

938
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: learned to like, oh, yeah, I'll sing on your record

939
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: and I won't even charge your feet, but i'll charge

940
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: your higher percentage and higher points. So just get me

941
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: on the back end. That's what that means. She's just like,

942
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: what said the three points? Then it just give me

943
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: four maybe fact which the long periods. Yeah, yeah, because

944
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times people are trying to give you

945
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: advance or artists stipend or you know, a fee, and

946
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: then they don't want to give you. Yeah, be like, no,

947
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: I can't be bored. So what exactly happened that Park thing?

948
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: What was what was being said? If my memory sold

949
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: me correctly, I remember we were introducing a video and

950
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: at the end of whatever it was, I just said,

951
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: g unit, and I didn't know they was gonna keep it.

952
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: I thought the mix was off, and they kept it,

953
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: and I realized, ship, here we go. But let me

954
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: just give the backstory. I didn't honestly know the premise

955
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: of what was going on between them, but but you

956
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't know it was at odds. I didn't know how

957
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: serious it was because before I did put it on

958
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: me before I did I cry. I did Somebody's Gonna

959
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: Die Tonight for the Romeo Must Die soundtrack with Dave

960
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: bing Bank. Dave bing b I n G. And he

961
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: was he was with Murdered eight. So that's how I

962
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: got to be a Roman. So anytime that movie plays like,

963
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like whoa. The admin was great on that,

964
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: so I thought everything would be right. But it was

965
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: something that happened at the video set and I remember see,

966
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: I know fifty before he did have to row and

967
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: went went around that top. My whole boy, Barry, we

968
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: was right and songs in my whole voice. Uh. He

969
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: had a joint South in Jamaica States. So we wrote

970
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: a song called gay Yeah. Right by the way. It

971
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: used to be a white Castle right there. So we

972
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: was writing a song called fro Gayzy. And this was

973
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: before he was shot, and so he'd be like, this

974
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: is my homie fifty yo, he's about to blow. He

975
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: got a better fact he just had did how to

976
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: rob it. I'm just like, yo, you dope. We did

977
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: songs on the spot and after that the situation happened,

978
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't never involved. One thing I

979
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: realized is don't get in grown men's beef. Be a lady.

980
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: I knew that enough, so when stuff was happening, I'm thinking, oh,

981
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: that's just industry stuff. Ain't nothing gonna happen, but it

982
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: was real. So I had inserted myself and something that

983
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: I had really no business and I said something I

984
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: think on Hot ninety seven one time that I used

985
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: to fill in for starring Buck Wild and I filled

986
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: in and I said something, I did three things you

987
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: should never do against uh. I think it was like

988
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: whatever it was I said, and the last thing was

989
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: never ever put out a disc record against I think

990
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: it was somebody had tried to dis eminem and fifty

991
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And I got a call from Mona

992
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Scott and Chris Lidy and Sylvia Row was just like,

993
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: be a lady, don't join in the men's beause that

994
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: don't have nothing to do with you. And that from there,

995
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, bad because I thought

996
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: it was, you know, industry beat that we labels are

997
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: being cohoes, and be like, all right, it's gonna but

998
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: now we're getting get to a port where it's just like,

999
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: this is stuff that don't have nothing to do with

1000
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: the industry and you don't have nothing to do with

1001
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: you mind your damn business six super six. So I

1002
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: still got some of the mom left. How thin and

1003
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: J fix that because here you go, you got this

1004
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: great relationship cry and then there's one or six and

1005
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Park thing happened. But what it was crazy, Like I

1006
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: think what it was was before the one or six

1007
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: and Park things happened. I remember we was, I was

1008
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: touring with them because you know, as an artist, sometimes

1009
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: in the apartment your cutting you off. As an artist,

1010
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't know what the laby do and don't do,

1011
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm saying so like when I when

1012
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: when I saw that, I immediately knew. I was like,

1013
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't think she unders she understands how busy he

1014
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: is that he's not even paying attention. So once there

1015
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: ever a conversation like you calling job prior to that

1016
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: and saying, you know what, they didn't pay me on this,

1017
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, once I realized he didn't even know. Okay,

1018
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: you know, and I realized that, but he even put

1019
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: out a disk record on me and yeah, I did

1020
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: a who shot you? I was like, I did that?

1021
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: Who shot you? Like? Yeah, I was I was saying

1022
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: so crazy stuff because I used to really want to

1023
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: be a rapper, but I just could say. So it

1024
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, y'all think you're gonna talk crazy

1025
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: about me. You must not know my hand an orange jumper.

1026
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: You know this is a piece from my ps. So

1027
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: because didn't you'll do to the video on Baltomore, I cry, yeah,

1028
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: we did that in Cherry Hill. That's like hood like

1029
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: it was a shootouts soon as we left, but like

1030
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: a fourteen year walking We got y'all like, wait, he

1031
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: has a gun? God, whose kid is this? You know

1032
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that's when I was just like

1033
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: Baltimore really had my back. But before that, it was

1034
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: just like I'm just running around hyped up doing shows.

1035
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, I mean, I know you're

1036
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: paying for flight in the hotel, but put them. But

1037
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna tell you this, nobody ever knew this.

1038
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: They would saying that they were just on promo. So me,

1039
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: promo is just like, okay, I'm out promoting my single.

1040
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: We're not getting paid, We're just getting travel stipment just

1041
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: by accident. Um booking agent sent me his deposit by accident. Wait, okay,

1042
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: who are you talking about again. Okay. So obviously when

1043
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: they're saying you're on promo, it's not y'all saying you

1044
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: on promo. Promo continued, that's what they were telling my management.

1045
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: So one day I get a FedEx and I opened

1046
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: it up and the joke was for like it was

1047
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: was it was advanced for like four shows, so it's

1048
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: like fifty, so that means he was getting twenty five

1049
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: the show out and this is a check or this

1050
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: is okay. So I'm getting phone calls and they're like, hey,

1051
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: I think we know I called them, and I'm just like, uh,

1052
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: I gotta check here, but it's not to me what

1053
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: y'all post is sent me something else because this is

1054
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: fifty dollars advanced for four shows, and the show four

1055
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: shows a hundred thousands. Where's my? Like, where's my? I

1056
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: called them, you're doing shows for free nine but your

1057
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: bus is taken care of, flights were taken care of hotel,

1058
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: and for d M. You said okay, yeah, but I

1059
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: was singing two songs and I was performing my heart out.

1060
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: So the agency called me back and was just like, wow,

1061
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: we've never had this mistake in all the time we've

1062
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: done bookings? Can you avoid it and send us a copy?

1063
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I avoided it and I sent them. It was like,

1064
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: your honesty is what's gonna keep you in this industry.

1065
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: And I was just like, let me call and see.

1066
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: So y'all are getting paid for shows. There ain't none

1067
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: of your fucking business day And I'm just like, a

1068
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: who's saying that's none of your business? I spoke to

1069
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who. At that time, I had a

1070
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: different manager, so I'm just like it was like yeah,

1071
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: so then she speaks to whoever, and they just like, well,

1072
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: we had already had a show book that I remember.

1073
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: I think we were in the Chicago at the labor

1074
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, y'all don't have to come

1075
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: no more, say no more. One thing about me is

1076
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: if I feel uninvited or you tell me, I ain't

1077
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna come to there no more, I ain't showing up

1078
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna beg nobody. That's a scorpion on me.

1079
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm not begging you for ship, but I'll sleep outside

1080
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: for I beg you to come inside. It's just certain things.

1081
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: That's my that's my project. You're telling me. Someone from

1082
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: murder Ache said well, that's what the management came back

1083
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: and told me. It was like we were we were

1084
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Airport's like, well, y'all can

1085
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: go home. But it wasn't my fault that y'all were

1086
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: getting paid. We weren't told. So we were doing MTV

1087
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: Spring Breaks, BT spring Blinks, doing all of these shows,

1088
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, like, I'm thinking the bad

1089
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna run up. I still got bills. I still you know,

1090
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, that's when it's

1091
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: doing to me when Silver Roon said, these a lot

1092
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's ain't your friend. So I stopped going on

1093
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: the road, and then it was it was it was

1094
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: a hiatus between me and John talking because it went

1095
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: from us being like brother and sister too. You know what,

1096
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just be brother and sister with the

1097
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: people that I know that ain't never do nothing shady.

1098
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: But then I later realized it you honestly don't know

1099
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: who it is or who it was, but um, how

1100
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: did we reconcile? I think, uh, we got a show together,

1101
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: and it was just like, damn, like, you know what,

1102
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: I saw his kids getting bigger, and I'm just like damn,

1103
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: Like I was there when when all these kids and

1104
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: my nephews and my kids were big, we want to

1105
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: go with ya route? How did we let this industry

1106
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: coming between that? My nephew literally he just turned like

1107
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay in your I want to

1108
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: go with y'all rule, and he would literally come get

1109
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: my nephew so he could go chill with them. And

1110
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh damn, but you know they're they're smoking

1111
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: merry reply. But it was just like, you know, how

1112
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: did we let anything come between that? Like we was?

1113
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: We was, you know, we was tight. So I'm like,

1114
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever I said, I apologize because I

1115
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: really didn't know what was going on, And maybe you

1116
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know either. I'm almost sure I don't know. I've

1117
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: never asked him, but I'm almost sure me knowing him,

1118
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: he didn't know as an artist, Like as the artist, yeah,

1119
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: was crazy. And then I realized that was having ecstasy

1120
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: days days I was, and I was one of the

1121
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: ecstasy hands. I was running around. So it was just like, Okay,

1122
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: we're thinking people that are in position are gonna handle

1123
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: our paperwork and do stuff. But just looking back, I

1124
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: was just like for me and my soul for me

1125
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: to have to put it at rest, because I don't

1126
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: understand how somebody could beef all their life, like if

1127
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: you want to take that to your grade and we

1128
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen in the after life. If

1129
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: you have to literally stand before a law or God

1130
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: or whoever you sir, and they say, the only thing

1131
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: that's keeping you from having everlasting life or perfect peace

1132
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: is because you're holding an art against somebody that really,

1133
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: if your life, them or property ain't in danger anymore,

1134
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: why are you mad at this person? It's just like,

1135
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: you know what, it wasn't affecting none of my business

1136
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: on my hits, I was affecting it. So I got

1137
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: to the point where just like yo, I apologize because

1138
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: I ain't made that ship I was. I was, I

1139
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: was had, I was one of them days. It's my

1140
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: career could have been on that could have been anything.

1141
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: And I was talking ship. But I'm honestly, I'm one

1142
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: of the first R and B artists to talk ship

1143
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: like I be talking to niggas. I don't know where

1144
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: that came from, but I think it's my accomplice. I

1145
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: really would talk ship to niggas. I'm gonna tell you something.

1146
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: I was on the tour. I think with Job, I

1147
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: was gonna talk with Job, not I think with I

1148
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: was gonna talk with Job. And one of the illiest

1149
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: moments I've ever seen in my life was him looked

1150
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: to the crowd, let's say, I want you all to

1151
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: say I cry, and then this crowd say you cry,

1152
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: and then this crowd said we cry, and then and

1153
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: then he didn't even say, we're gonna say that part together.

1154
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: And he came out there and he was like and

1155
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: then he just went like this, and I said, I

1156
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: need that ship are on the stadium. And I looked

1157
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 1: and I said, Holy motherfucking do you know how big?

1158
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: Because I don't put it on me when he when

1159
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: uh the end song? That where what? Or I don't

1160
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: even have to when you have a hit record, you

1161
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: don't even have to sing it. What I do is like,

1162
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna go to this part and

1163
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: y'all know what to do. And I literally stand it

1164
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and people sing it to the top of the loans

1165
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: that it's an anthem or world. It's the best feeling

1166
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: in the world. And that's what I realized. I had

1167
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: to let some ship go because when you know your

1168
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: part is the one that people love, run with it

1169
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: to this day. To this day, that's people people have

1170
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: message me and we're like, turn out the record. DJ,

1171
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: y'all ain't got little most part playing. I'm like, what

1172
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: y'all do? They was like, why the fund do a

1173
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: part of or a version of putting on Me exists

1174
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: without more? I'm like, well that was on the album.

1175
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: They later strike it on the album. Yeah, but people

1176
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: like I don't want to hear without you. So it's

1177
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: just like I realized it was something in my voice

1178
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: or that my gift made room for me that when

1179
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: you hear a song without me on it, you don't

1180
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: want to hear it because it don't it don't make

1181
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: you feel nothing. But we don't from you. When did

1182
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: you film that video? App? And I think West Palm

1183
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: Beach or Florida. You're supposed Sami Miamiami. But I was

1184
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: because I remember that whatever it was, I believe it

1185
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: was West Palm Beach. I know that once the sun

1186
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: goes down, the town shuts down. So they were like,

1187
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: we gotta get this shot. Hip. It was like, we

1188
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: gotta get this shot because it's like an all rich

1189
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: there's another side of well we wasn't that something? That's

1190
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: what all the people they said, it's rich retirees. And

1191
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: at six o'clock the city shuts down and you have

1192
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: to be at your house or is your birthday? How

1193
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: when I when I when I always um be interviewed somebody,

1194
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: I go to Twitter because Twitter is like the most

1195
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: evilest place on the planet, but it's also like the

1196
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: most smartest place on the planet. For Twitter is And

1197
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: when I said, anybody got questions for a little mode,

1198
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: they said, how does she feel that? She basically put

1199
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: fabulous on? That's what they said. Yeah, everybody always asks

1200
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: why why why? Why do they Why do they think that?

1201
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Well? I know that before we

1202
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: did Superwoman, he was like all the mixtapes, but that

1203
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: was his first radio record. Yeah, that was his firsts

1204
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: over hit record. And he was also signed to a

1205
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: lecture at that time too, because a little bit after

1206
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: wait a minute and it does the storm got the

1207
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: deal or whatever, they labeled to a lecture, but he

1208
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: had clue had all the mixtapes a lock and because

1209
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: it's a Superwoman to the remix career, because it was

1210
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: a Superwoman War one and that's what I went too.

1211
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: I had did the Beatie Seagull beat and I can't

1212
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: wait to see that battle anyone. We're talking about that

1213
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: later you might jumped out. Got to call him. I

1214
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: had a drink to that because when that's what I

1215
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's uh yeah, beach like that's what

1216
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: super dues stop chill d I used Brian Michael Cox

1217
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: did that beat, so I did you ain't got to

1218
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: look up in the sky parts and Jamada Price like

1219
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: this ship is a hit, but we sent it into

1220
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: a lecturer and it was just like the song is

1221
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: too cocky. I'm like, I mean Superwoman part one because

1222
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: I was like basically saying, you ain't got to look

1223
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: at these chicken heads. You ain't gonna look anywhere else.

1224
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: There's a difference between me and these girls. And he

1225
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: was like, well, we don't want anybody to get offended

1226
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: or think that you're taking shots to them. I was like,

1227
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know nobody in real life but Missy

1228
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: Elliot and I'm not talking about her, like, are you

1229
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: kidding me? So um, I'm I did Supermoman Part two.

1230
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: I was in l A with Clue working on the

1231
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: record because we had did songs with B two K

1232
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: like Cluing Up, Cluing Durer produced. So you heard that

1233
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: young girl? We didn't. We did, uh someone a girl

1234
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: artists that was on dream Works because they cut checks.

1235
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: Her name is Canela Cox and we had Spielberg record

1236
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: LABA and Dreino was cutting checks. He was from l a.

1237
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: Hen Street'd be like, I want fifty thousand for a

1238
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: song and then motherfucker, don't even come out. Hey, I

1239
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: don't care day checks. We were doing the sing and

1240
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: we were doing the song and the session was over.

1241
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: There was two hours left, but Clue had to get

1242
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: back to the East Coast for his Monday like mixtape

1243
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: and I was selling and I was like, you got

1244
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: we ain't wasting this two hours and we ain't just

1245
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: sitting up here. So I was like, hey, play me

1246
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: a beat. He played me the Superwoman beat. He was

1247
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: playing beats. He was like, I think you should do

1248
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: something like this, and I was like, I don't like

1249
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: when people tell me what you do. This is Clue.

1250
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: He's playing beats. So he plays a beat and it

1251
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: was just and I was like, I want that because

1252
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: that's so that sound is so annoying. I want to

1253
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: annoy people. But when I put my vocals over it,

1254
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: that she's gonna go out. He was like, I can't

1255
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: give you that beat, sist that's for m O p

1256
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: wa wa w Did MP have a version of it

1257
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: already day beat because way too fastn't do a remix

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: already with And I was like, how about some wrong?

1259
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: This is so great, This is stuff people would never

1260
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: know any more Woman Superwoman, far too original beat for

1261
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: that song was made for them for m O p

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh you killed like you said, you killed this so much,

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: I can't even think about. And trust me, m O

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: p I'm a big Emo PI fan, but now that

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: I hear what you did too, I can't even was

1266
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: crazy it was. It was literally just and the beat

1267
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: was dope, dope what I sang over soda every day.

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: I sang that there was no chords and no key,

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01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: so I had to sing that. When I told him,

1270
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: I said, drop the music, tell me how many beats

1271
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: per minutes? So I duro edit it out, but I

1272
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: would have to. I was like, ever every day I

1273
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: was snapping my fingers singing that, and I had to

1274
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: stack my vocals so we later had some producers, not producers.

1275
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Some musicians come in and play the bridge, the strings

1276
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: and then act those keys are So if you hear

1277
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: the original beat to when it became the TV track,

1278
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: you'll be like you could tell I was around Quincy

1279
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: Jones and them because I've seen before. But when the

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: way from your clause, No, but it was just like

1281
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: it was for m O P. So I did the

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: song and I sent it to Clue. We had the

1283
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: Delta dashes. This was the craziest when you and Fab

1284
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: on there. Okay, So the thing is was with Fab,

1285
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm always listening. I used to be a mixtape head,

1286
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: and Clues like, who do you want to get it?

1287
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: Because by that time I had worked with Missy job J.

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: Everybody knew my name. Who you want to get on it?

1289
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: I was like I could have had I could have

1290
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: had m Op on it or anybody you know. And

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: I was with a lecture, so it was it could

1292
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: have been a check, but my budget was basically tapped out,

1293
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: which means that I still had money on the back end,

1294
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to use all the money because

1295
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: I knew they were yet by that. But it was

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: just like listen once we put us out. Yeah, I

1297
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be like I knowing mixing is gonna

1298
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: be gonna absorbed that. So I know jay Z is

1299
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna chrge a hundred thousand dollars, Mrs gonna trge to

1300
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: me to dollars and was gonna try me far disrespect

1301
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: for taking their record. So they already knew that they

1302
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: had that record. Well I don't find out now. So

1303
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: um Clue was like, so, who you want to get

1304
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: on the record. I think it would be dope with

1305
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: a rap. I said, the boarder speller's name or all

1306
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: your records. He was like Spins. I'm like yeah, I'm

1307
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: like he's dope. He was like, oh, that's easy. Text

1308
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: him and bab and he was with Um. He wasn't

1309
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: with he was with Webb and Chayo. Him and Webb

1310
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: came to the studio with yellow dude rags or chicken

1311
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: boxes and the sky tell pages. So I'm thinking, like

1312
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna come in there being this business. So I

1313
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: don't know what chicken boxes is chicken like, it comes

1314
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: in a box with chicken, the French fries. I want

1315
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: real chicken boxing. They came in there with food me

1316
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: thinking in the mi and said, Rabbit Spelling's day. I'm

1317
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: think he's gonna coming there with all these slick rick

1318
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: jewelry's on and wailing out. He came in with just him,

1319
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: yellow do rags and chicken and I believe maybe Street

1320
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: Fair kid. It was like, I'm just like, oh yeah,

1321
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: don't come here with a hundred people. So I'm just like,

1322
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: so you're ready to do your podcasts, I'm gonna go.

1323
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do your thing. He's like, I'm ready, Okay,

1324
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: let me move out your way. So we were at

1325
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: right track. I leave out. So he comes back like

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes later, so I'm like, you're finished.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, so before we push, but I hope

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: you don't mind. I did a little something in the intro,

1329
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: and I did something at that Oh, so you're just

1330
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: working above and beyond. So soon as I heard something

1331
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: like he was like little oh, I was like, oh

1332
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: my god. He spelt my name after so he was like,

1333
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: I guess I ain't got As soon as I heard

1334
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: his voice and what he said, I was like, you've

1335
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: got to be I guess I ain't got no reason.

1336
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: The men go around. I found a superwoman that could

1337
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: leave from the truck in a single bound. Mommy, I'm

1338
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: trying to bling you down. Something was about shades on

1339
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: the kids when I bring you and she put her

1340
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: lips on the weeds, still put it to work her

1341
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: tongue and made me come faster than the speed and

1342
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: bullet my love stronger than our locomotive. But only for

1343
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: that so that where he's like, oh, here go to

1344
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: the impart. So I'm like, where does it coming? Then

1345
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: after the bridge and he was like, the superwoman might

1346
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: have saved my day to KOs that would have gave

1347
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: some play. Now he wouldn't even wave that way. I

1348
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: understand why the mother she's behaved that way. They see

1349
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: the icy yes in your chest and grave and great

1350
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: be whipped the mike because usually with them things he type,

1351
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: but only greeny keep from me is Krypton knit the

1352
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: way that blew a red fitting on your hips. So right,

1353
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: I'd be like damn. I was like where wat excited,

1354
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: like how did you? I didn't even have to say, well,

1355
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: maybe you should tighten it up, and I was like

1356
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: we added here a lecture. Didn't want to put out

1357
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: the record because they didn't feel like nobody knew who

1358
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: he was, so clue played on his mixtape, and then

1359
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: after well the Money Night Makes tape on High ninety seven,

1360
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: he just kept on going up to and after that

1361
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: there was oh my god, this record is a smash.

1362
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: So I literally saw him go from them. We had

1363
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: a basically one commercial commercial because it went from what

1364
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: was jar Roule calling me? I swear to god, who

1365
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: I did not answer the phone? Jar hold a little

1366
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: more chilling man just up here talking about the good

1367
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: old days. Had we mirrod him back from you know

1368
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, There was a time where we went

1369
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: from the top and then we went through something. But

1370
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it got to the point

1371
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: where we get older and you get wise and you

1372
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: realize I took accountability and apologize for just jumping in

1373
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: something that ain't have nothing to do with me. I

1374
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: love you well, you know what it is. We got

1375
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: a dream chance moment won two three. Oh you know

1376
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: you know Norri sup tides, I'll be getting round of

1377
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: the shopper. Ain't got really nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we

1378
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: we always do, man, we always do. Well. That's there's

1379
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: a part of being our job. Our job is consistent, fucker.

1380
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I was calling you, hey man,

1381
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm going this is when I ain't up

1382
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: on you right now. I'm gonna hit you back it

1383
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: just by the way. We're gonna address the beach later.

1384
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: But let's can pretend you on so, um where was you?

1385
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: Boom now superwoman? First of the mercial record for so

1386
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: so Yeah, the first commercial record for five and you

1387
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: know I was just playing them around but put them on.

1388
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of people say that because um, as

1389
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: I tweeted out today, UM, I wish I do with

1390
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: every guest, especially guests that I want to know a

1391
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: little bit more about. I'll say, yo, you got a question,

1392
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: question too, and I sweeter to god, I can show

1393
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: you on my Twitter Like it was like if I

1394
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: had fifty seven messages, at least thirty of them was

1395
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: like yo, hotest little more field. Um that that she

1396
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: was responsible for the world noticing Fab? Is that something that, Um,

1397
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: your fab ever have a discrepancy? Like you ever tried

1398
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: to get him back on the record or and it

1399
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: wasn't no, no, not, because it's like it's never been

1400
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: a discrepancy. And he'll even say he said in interviews,

1401
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: like Moe gave me a chance, you know what I'm saying,

1402
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: and then that opened the door. He's done records with

1403
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: m JB J. Low, everybody, like he's worked with everybody,

1404
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: and they opened the door. So it's just like Missy

1405
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: did that for me. So the way you have longevity

1406
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: in this industry is you put somebody in position. You

1407
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: keep putting people in a position. So because because it

1408
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't stop there, so it's like now a lot of

1409
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: the young artists that are coming back. Yeah, so you

1410
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: do good, good gonna come back. So whatever you put

1411
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere is gonna gonna return. So it just

1412
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: didn't stop there. But Missy did that for me. But

1413
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times I would say, but basically,

1414
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: well we did after that, we did Can't let You

1415
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: go forever, Like we have so many records together, it's

1416
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: like we have a whole I honestly know that we

1417
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: wanted to do like a like a like a collaborative album,

1418
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: and I know he was like, def Jam wasn't with it.

1419
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: I was like, man, let's do it ourselves. But now

1420
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to have the opportunity to do it. Yeah,

1421
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: so it's just like it is what it is, but

1422
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: those fans are from the album. Just literally set le

1423
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: brated twenty years on June. So twenty years honestly having

1424
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: my first album out and he was a part of that.

1425
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: We got two decades congratulating. Here's something I do want

1426
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: to ask you, right because when we googled and we

1427
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: kept googling, we didn't expect that you don't have a

1428
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: song with John Rule with me on my album? Is

1429
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: that that is true? Yeah? Yeah, I think after like

1430
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: the whatever happened with the fallout, we never but we

1431
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: we have records that never were released. Okay, so it

1432
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we had records that were never released

1433
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: or I think it was just because he was honestly

1434
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: the most dominant artist and they there was a time

1435
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: when Murder Inc. Was a machine, like you was not

1436
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: permeating their goals. Yeah, it was that. So now once

1437
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm indeed I have that like when you can't you

1438
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 1: can't get in, you can't get in. There was a

1439
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: stop spelling bees and everything. So it's just like, I know,

1440
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: you couldn't you couldn't cut through. They had a run.

1441
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: You wasn't putting you wasn't cutting through like Earth had

1442
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: that ship or a lot Deaf Jam had that ship

1443
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 1: on a lock. So it's just like, if you was

1444
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: trying to do a female and a male song, you wasn't.

1445
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: If he put out someone a female in the male,

1446
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: you wasn't. You wasn't beating him. He mastered the game.

1447
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: He had all the PDS names and numbers in his phone,

1448
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: and he made them feel important because he would be

1449
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: like here going to record the label because they're gonna

1450
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: move that. They paced, So it was just like he

1451
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: was always ahead of the game. So whenever their declination

1452
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: came in at where you know, things started, you know,

1453
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: falling apart, I don't. That doesn't have anything to do

1454
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: with me because at the end of the day, I

1455
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: was never signed to murder any So it's just like

1456
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: you know that, but you are right, I don't have

1457
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: any songs with him, actually want I just think that

1458
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: once me and Fab started doing records together, just like

1459
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: a missing him at certain people's chemistry that even though

1460
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: you could have hits with other people, it's just certain

1461
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: people's chemistry that surpassed that. Because yeah, so um, now

1462
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: we got this music is being handled. But now you

1463
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: do love a hip hop first, right before before you

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01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: get electorate, you did something ODB. Yeah whoa oh man,

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01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: rest in peace to him. So I did good Morning Heartache.

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: We made that and he specifically told Sylvia because he

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01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: had a relationship with Sylvia that was uh like they

1468
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 1: was like homies. So he was like, I want to

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: get that girl on the record, the girl that he's

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: singing stuff. So I'm thinking, like, this is od B

1471
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: because he's a singer inside like you can tell he

1472
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: was Yeah, but you're coming from growing up watching Wu

1473
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Tang and you see O d B. You thinking that,

1474
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: oh my god. Like honestly was afraid to go to

1475
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: the session because I'm like, I hope you don't be

1476
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: in there acting weird because od B respecting ship out

1477
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: you like everybody's like if he's if you delete. I

1478
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: was in a the session and he said, do not rewind,

1479
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: delete or do do exactly what I told you to

1480
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: do because sometimes engineers get comfortable, and he started doing stuff.

1481
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: He said, did you record. I've seen him walk out

1482
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 1: of a session where they recorded over his vocal and

1483
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: he left. But he would have people bring his reels in.

1484
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: They would be on in Dolly's and he'd be like,

1485
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: go to track, go to real or Real number three

1486
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: and they would find it. He would always come in

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: with the sessions with his reels. So we recorded that

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01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: at the Hit Factory, and I was so scared of

1489
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: going there and sing where he was like, going there

1490
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: and sing how you sing? Don't worry about what I

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01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: do or what anybody else has done before, you do

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01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: what you do. So I did good Morning, how they

1493
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: Can Sing? And he sat there, he was dancing in

1494
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: front of the board like this, and I'm like, wow,

1495
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if he likes it not and they was like, no,

1496
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: he loves it. And it made the album. So that

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: was actually a dream come true because I was will

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: Tang forever the world. I've I've never worked before, I don't.

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that was a fear of mine because you

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: know why, because people they fell just do like You're

1501
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: so like, well, what what what? They just think that

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: he was the Neptune, but people didn't know that he

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01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: was writing for s w V. So I was scared

1504
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: back then, and I don't think my budget was healthy

1505
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: enough for him. But we hosted a UM Hot ninety

1506
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: seven flow like years ago for the Puerto Rican Day

1507
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: Parade and we was on that. He was just like, yo,

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: you really can say. And then after that we just

1509
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: was cool. And every time I'm saying, I'm like, what

1510
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: do you be drinking? And what do you take? How

1511
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: do you keep looking? I was like, did you join

1512
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: the Luminous? But he was just like, na, just a

1513
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: favor over my life and just honestly after that, like

1514
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: he's just a cool individual. He never ages, he never

1515
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: liked yeah, yeah, I want so so boom. Now we

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: move on to the reality show. Oh yeah, so what

1517
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: made you say? All right, cool, let me go to

1518
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: reality from here? And then not only reality, but you

1519
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 1: went to New York, which is like going back to

1520
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: your roots. It's like going back home a little bit,

1521
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: well maybe even a lot of it, um going back home,

1522
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: but um, you know doing this? What made you do that?

1523
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 1: Was it a Mona call? Because, like you said, it

1524
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: was it was violated as well. But I was rocking

1525
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: with Mona before violated because when she won't actually with

1526
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,839
Speaker 1: Missy like she was the one who said up everything,

1527
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: so she we've just been rocking out since the beginning.

1528
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: But I had did R and B Divers before that,

1529
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: so I was realized that that music is changing and

1530
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: you might think you lit, but it's a whole new

1531
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: world out there. And reality TV was the way. So

1532
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: I did R and B Divs of l A and

1533
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: then I got the call for Loving Hip Hop. Yeah,

1534
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: it was directly for Mona because it was just like, hey,

1535
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: I see you know you're working on some stuff and

1536
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: do you want to tell your story? And because you

1537
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: know people know you, this would be a great way

1538
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: to push with what you got going on. And this

1539
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: is after you you have radio? Yeah, because I said

1540
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: I did radio my daughter b nineteen. I was pregnant

1541
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: with her when I did radio, So yeah, what made

1542
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: you do radio? Like because most artists, whose artists do,

1543
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: want to just keep sticking to the artist. Yeah, artists

1544
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: and singing. So what made you say at one point

1545
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: you know what? Uh? And I imagine you did it

1546
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 1: in your hometown at first, right, that was in Baltimore.

1547
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: The You Mention was a program directed there. So when

1548
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do the show, I

1549
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: used to watch Martin and I was like, yeah, I said,

1550
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: they know me up in here. And then but I

1551
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time and that was that's with

1552
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: my first daughter. And you know, in the industry back then,

1553
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: if you was pregnant, they didn't care, Like now you

1554
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: could be pregnant, busting it wide open, have the baby

1555
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: come back to the show the next day. Yeah, you

1556
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: because they didn't want you to be seen. So instead

1557
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: of sitting at home, I always I can't sit still,

1558
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: so I wanted something to do and they were like, well,

1559
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: do you have an air check? I'm like, what's that? Like?

1560
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: You made an hair check? They was like, well, when

1561
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: you've done ready before? Said well, I used to feel

1562
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: in at ready in New York on Hot Night the

1563
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: seven for everybody? So is that so? Tracy Clarity literally

1564
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: put in a good word for me and Jay Stevens

1565
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: and't thea Mitchell game your afternoon? So it was a

1566
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: little mo show and I was number one, Yeah, just

1567
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: by talking. But I had so many elements to the show.

1568
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: I literally patterned everything I did after Martin. So were

1569
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: Craig Cold people. We were like, it was really all

1570
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: around good show until one day defense the Fats showed

1571
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: up a radio shot. Did you do what happened? It

1572
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: used to be so much going on in Baltimore, So

1573
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: two things one day the cops showed up because remember

1574
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: the DC sniper, Yeah, that was the waffle house, the

1575
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: waffle house that he shot somebody I had just left.

1576
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: Don know what's crazy is the DC sniper used to

1577
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: go to a subway. It was the radio station right here,

1578
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: and it was a subway sandwich place he should go

1579
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: to every day. And it was like he was so polite.

1580
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: They didn't know he was the sniper, so like, oh

1581
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: my god, I could have got sniped. I met his wife, Okay, Okay,

1582
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: So I just felt like it was just a protective

1583
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 1: thing at that point whence they realized that he was

1584
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: in that area. And the second time they came was

1585
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: when the R. Kelly scandal had came out. Okay, hold on,

1586
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 1: because let's make sure if we go back to the R.

1587
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: Kelly scandal, because it's very important to me. Okay, um

1588
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: to you, it's very important to me. Caring mind, okay, okay,

1589
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: let's just be clear and were black? Yeah, we're black.

1590
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: You thought that D sniper was black at first? No,

1591
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: because that's not no black ship because he was sniping

1592
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: ship and he's sniping like, I don't know black brothers.

1593
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: You know that much time? So I was when the

1594
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: kid too, was a kid he was with. That was

1595
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: a kid, right, That wasn't his kid. He had taken

1596
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: him on. He was like fifteen, he was. He was

1597
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: the one sniping ship. The kid, the kid, he trained him.

1598
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: He tried to spers the guy on the on the

1599
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: joint and then and the real snipers latt two Latin

1600
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: two four the wind. They were doing some crazy ship.

1601
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: They do you living in bottom at the time. Sniper ship? Yeah,

1602
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: first people want a skid to go outside, like it was.

1603
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 1: I had a tour in the DMV at this time.

1604
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I sweeter guard. I could prove it all okay, um,

1605
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: people get shot randomly in the station like people kep

1606
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: against like this. I was plump again, like I was

1607
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: like yo. I had someone driving me to said, some

1608
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: white people ship. What did you say? So at first

1609
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: people thought that some white people ship. Not only that,

1610
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: but you know it's a lot of military bases out there.

1611
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: He not. He did not pop no brothers. At first.

1612
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: He popped. At first he was popping white people, and

1613
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: then he just switched it on the brothers. And then

1614
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: when it was gonna condo black people, and then he

1615
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: popped the kid. That's when it was up. But my

1616
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: cousin was a sheriff in ah uh St Mary's County,

1617
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: and he was like, at first they could have been

1618
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: stopped it how because they have aerial stuff they see everything.

1619
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: But then once it got to the point where he started,

1620
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: it's almost like they the government could do anything because

1621
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: what you can control people by fear, then it's just

1622
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: like okay, because they have like certain exercises that they

1623
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: when they were reacting. But he really whatever was going on,

1624
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: he started invoking fearing the people to the point that

1625
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to pump gas. Like businesses was suffering, and

1626
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: nobody knew what he was. Nobody knew what yeah, and

1627
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: nobody knew a car he was in. They just kept

1628
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 1: on saying, DC sniper, We have a composite sketch. Nobody

1629
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 1: knew he was going to subway and waffle house, and

1630
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: he was going the subway after he was sniping. We

1631
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: don't know if it was before, but nobody knew they

1632
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: would catch him sleeping at the rest stop and they

1633
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: truck blocking in. He didn't look like look snipers usually

1634
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: look sniper. He didn't had a dirty, scruffy sniper looked

1635
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: like his name was Keith. He'd be on the internet

1636
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 1: all sweat about to go at it. It's about to

1637
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: be a shot. You got you, Yeah, give me a shot.

1638
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why, because it's about to be up.

1639
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna tell you who. I think between

1640
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the sniper it was just like I was pregnant at

1641
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: the time. So once people stopped, it was scary because

1642
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: then it's just like, oh, this could be over here

1643
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: like here, yeah, It's like it got dangerous. And once

1644
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: he started going in areas that was Townson, that's that's

1645
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: a money areas tws O N. So when he started

1646
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: going into areas that he people thought he should be

1647
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: sniping and Baltimore like, that's that's messed up. But then

1648
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: when they had a composite sketch and I believe I

1649
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it wouldn't, but he was. His preciseness

1650
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: was they was just like they never thought it was

1651
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: a black person. He was at military though, right, I

1652
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: believe so. But then when they found out that the

1653
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,839
Speaker 1: young boy leave Maumo was sniping, he was like fourteen

1654
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen, how do you teach my son is about

1655
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: to be How do you impression? How do you put

1656
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: an impression on someone that's not your own child to

1657
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: be like, I want you to go out here and

1658
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: we're about to change the game. And he never I

1659
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: don't think he ever physically abused his uh ex wife,

1660
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: because I did panels with her about domestic abuse and

1661
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: he was starting. But he never touched hard them kids.

1662
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: So they were trying to say wife, ex wife. They

1663
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: was just that's what that's what was the rule leg

1664
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: that he was mad at the ex wife because that's

1665
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: a terrible domestic that's I'm just like it was. It

1666
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: was crazy. So you you texted d C snaper wife

1667
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: sometimes like, no, not anymore. We did. We did up

1668
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. So when I'm sitting up things like yo,

1669
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the lady, that's the lady, that's his wife, And I'm

1670
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: just like, and I asked of off the record, I

1671
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: was just on something like, yo, did he ever pop out?

1672
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: Like but he would try to pop up at the sisters,

1673
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: her sister his house and threatened, but he never touched him.

1674
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: And I'm just like you, He's like, when you say

1675
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: pop out, what are you saying? Like like he was

1676
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: just shooting the desistance. No, he never he just showed

1677
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: up he was popping people that had nothing to do

1678
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: with anything. A bus driver, a kid, a lady pumping gas.

1679
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: He was understanding. He had an argument with his wife

1680
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: and said, I choose some other people. He didn't have

1681
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: no manifesto here. And the reason it had no It

1682
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was the oldest child supporters through the roof. Yeah,

1683
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: so we don't know my wife, I kill mother and

1684
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: these kids. I think he gets to your sister. He

1685
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: just got He just everybody I think honestly has that

1686
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: breaking point. He was. That's serious. So like, is he

1687
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: wait they sniped him out right? I thought the kid definitely,

1688
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: but I think he's out now right, the kid is out.

1689
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: He was like four ship come on away in a

1690
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: minute something. But it was like when I say people

1691
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: in different counties were afraid to pump gas. Do you

1692
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: know how imperative it is to pump your gas? And

1693
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: then when you got to peek around and you don't

1694
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: know because nobody knew, they couldn't find the vehicle. No, nothing,

1695
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: country would scared everybody like were gonna start doing that.

1696
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: He was literally he never missed right. So once he

1697
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: killed that kid that was at the busy house, that

1698
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: he shot at the gas one of those joints. It

1699
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,799
Speaker 1: was either guy s the waffle house. We were playing

1700
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: around because we had just seen the news. Huh did

1701
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: But the young kid he trying to get out because

1702
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: he was he was coerced m A l v O.

1703
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: So we were playing around, sweiteterguard. We're on tour, we're

1704
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: playing around as we like, not getting gas. I think

1705
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: she said that earlier, but I think we were like

1706
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: just using the bathroom or whatever, and was like, yo, watch'all,

1707
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: what'll the snipe? And we were playing with this, playing

1708
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: around the snipe. But we get to the hotel. You

1709
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: know how the tour bus ship that your to um

1710
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the TV don't work when you're going on the highway

1711
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: and then once you pull up to the hotel and

1712
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: it falls up and we all just look at each

1713
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: other like he shot the dude at the same exact

1714
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: place we were playing like. We were just playing around,

1715
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, let's get out of here. And we

1716
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: looked and I pulled up. I was like the whole

1717
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: ship like we just we didn't play no more from

1718
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: from that, but they make you think as an artist,

1719
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: like what if he was at the show. Yeah, Wow,

1720
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: damn that he definitely shot before the show. It was

1721
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: looking before you know, he was getting away because he

1722
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: didn't get caught after so he might have been at

1723
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: that motherfucker like it might have been turned them up

1724
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: this leg because because because in a snipe, because people

1725
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: think that snipers just snipe and then be just on

1726
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: a rampage like that. Right went to the Whitefire, was like, oh,

1727
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: nor over there, I might go check it out. I

1728
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: ain't got no tickets. I mean, I'm like, yeah, he

1729
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: might pop through to the last place they're gonna expect.

1730
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: They always do not Earlier, I heard you say you

1731
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: worked with jay Z? How was that? And on what

1732
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: area is jay Z? Is this? It's just possible up

1733
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: next year. Damn he getting out. They're gonna get him out.

1734
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna do a story here. Yeah, that that's like

1735
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: mental abuse, like when you go through a program, for sure.

1736
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: But where was his parents? I always asked that, No,

1737
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: that wasn't the whole time, So where was his mom

1738
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: and dad? That's why I'm just like and every time

1739
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: I asked that, I get in trouble because people like,

1740
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 1: why are you write about where's people's parents? Said? Because

1741
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: my daughter is legally grown, and I can't even set

1742
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: up a point was they were like, well, we have

1743
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: to speak up first before we give you this information.

1744
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I'll be knowing. I need to

1745
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: know where these parents is at because I need to

1746
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: know when my kids is at all time. Because ship

1747
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: is real and you colact if you want to. But

1748
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: niggas is catching people slipping, and I would hate to

1749
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: be the like I don't know if maybe he don't

1750
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: know if he was like an adoptive son or maybe

1751
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: his godfather, But how did he get it? What matter?

1752
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: What did he say to him? That may be like

1753
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: you're going out here the Snipe ship, you have to

1754
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: be pretty persuasive and charismatic to be able to pull

1755
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: it off. I don't want nobody to have that type

1756
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,879
Speaker 1: of power over my son because it's that easy. Period.

1757
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, what were we talking about. I ain't gonna

1758
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: f d Sniper Gonna from Sniper's He's that, he's that

1759
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: but the kid but snipers out. So now marriage bootcap

1760
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 1: come to you? Oh yeah, because we were talking about

1761
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: loving hip hop but between because love and hip hop

1762
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: and marriage, Blue Camp was literally filmed almost simultaneously It

1763
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 1: was literally a couple of months after because because Mary's

1764
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Bootcamp had to get clearance to from Love and hip

1765
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Hop too, so he was already on a couple of

1766
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: seasons of Love and Hip Hop one season okay, and

1767
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: I was done. I did my bed and I was out.

1768
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 1: Let me get it. Yeah, goddamn god, I'm so marriage

1769
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: boot camp. I gotta ask you, Um, I believe it's

1770
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: your husband at the time, Yeah, because I'm not married

1771
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: no more. Okay, So this is this footage of him

1772
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: like face timing or being was that something that the

1773
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: show bowled off or that was this was? This was

1774
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 1: absolutely real? Because it was absolutely real real, It was

1775
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: absolutely real. And one thing because now I can talk

1776
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 1: about it because we couldn't talk about it before the

1777
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: show came out, so I had to fake the funk

1778
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: as if we were still together until the show actually aired.

1779
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: But that was back in nineteen So now I can

1780
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: talk about it. With that house, you're there for like

1781
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: thirty days, not thirty days or so like twenty eight

1782
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: days and anything after they say after things, you after tries,

1783
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: it's a habit, but when you're in that house for

1784
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: a week, it's almost I wouldn't say jail because I've

1785
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: never been to jail. But when you're in the middle

1786
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: of nowhere, you can't leave. There's little to no WiFi connection.

1787
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: You have to stand by where that actual scene was

1788
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: filmed because that's where the WiFi connection is. The house

1789
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: is a dead zone. And before you film, they keep

1790
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: you in the hotel. You can't leave out your room.

1791
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: They bring everything to you. You don't have no room key,

1792
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: you don't have no access to the outside world. It's

1793
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: mentally designed to break you down because then you get

1794
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: when your mind is broken down. It's a real boot camp.

1795
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 1: And they let you know that and you sign off.

1796
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: So I know what I signed up for, but when

1797
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: you sign up for it, it's just like you know

1798
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: what you're getting into. But I went back to what

1799
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Mona says is, if you find out what is presented

1800
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: before you, and you find out that it is valid,

1801
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do right? Because because how this

1802
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: happens right, because you will sleep At the time he

1803
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: was making I was gonna hold another side of the

1804
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: house as big as ships. You get lost in that motherfucker.

1805
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: And then sometimes they cut off parts of the house.

1806
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: They'll be like Oh you can't know. You can't come

1807
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: over here because they're setting up scenes like you'll be

1808
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 1: sleep and you wake up and it's a whole fucking

1809
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: carnival houseide. So with that, I was on the other

1810
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: side of the house. So is it a cast member

1811
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: who tells you this or is it the actual staff

1812
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 1: or production? It's actually dr being doctor Ish And I

1813
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: could say it now because they came to me off record,

1814
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: because when you're filling doctor who dr V that's the

1815
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: lady and Dr Ish. I just don't know the doctor Okay,

1816
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: dr Ish, but Dr V was the white lady, right, Okay,

1817
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: I remember that. Okay, they came to me. It was like,

1818
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: can we talk to you? And like when they say

1819
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: they can they talk to you? They take you in

1820
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: this white room and are you automatically thinking that they're

1821
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: trying to start drama or you believe they're not there

1822
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 1: to start Okay? Cool, they're they're honestly they want you

1823
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: to bring the druma. They know it's only a certain

1824
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: amount of time you can last before the dramas. Like

1825
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: people can sit up there and try to hide, but

1826
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna pop out because they're mentally funk with you

1827
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 1: till you be like, oh ship. So I was in

1828
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: the house with Soldier Boy India Jessica Dime and her

1829
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: husband Tammy, and walk up and his girl was like,

1830
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: so I was a house with soldier boy, but that's

1831
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: like my nephew. So I literally got to see soldier boys.

1832
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: Time for you come to drink chats on me? Yeah,

1833
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: because I got to see everything that went down. So

1834
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: I've literally seen a lot of people grow up in

1835
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: the industry and then I got to live in the

1836
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: house with them. And seeing people in the industry and

1837
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: live with them is two separate things. So mentally, I

1838
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: saw everybody break down. And I'm not gonna put nobody's

1839
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: business out there. I'm gonna talk about me. So I

1840
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: know when my breaking fronts they came to you and

1841
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: they showed you the footage, or they take me to

1842
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: side and they bring me they bring they was like,

1843
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: can you come talk to us? And once they take

1844
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: you in the white room, you know what's up in

1845
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: the stuff? From there, they're gonna they're gonna that's when

1846
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: they film and they're gonna present you with some information

1847
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: because everybody you think you sneak it, but this could

1848
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 1: be a microphone. This could be a camera. Everything is

1849
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: a camera to the microphone. This could be a camera.

1850
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: So you sit up there, yeah, this'll bet they got

1851
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: you here. The house is strategically put together to catch

1852
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: your ass slipping. So unless you layter there like this

1853
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: and reading your Bible the whole time, your ask gonna

1854
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: get caught in some ship. So when it came to

1855
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: me they unfolded these papers, they was like, hey, you're

1856
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: good to that? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. What's going on?

1857
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Because we're smoking helloween? Because you're going crazy out there.

1858
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: It's the middle of nowhere and you can't go nowhere.

1859
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: So they were like, we want to show you. I

1860
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: don't even know where this. They drive you there and

1861
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: you don't know where there because they'll stop, they pull over,

1862
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: and then you're getting the lambo and then you and

1863
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 1: you're like President, yeah, it's no address. You can't be

1864
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say my location. Ain't none of that

1865
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: going on, which they had a police out there. So

1866
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I just remember them handing me some papers, which I

1867
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: still have to this day because I went through some

1868
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: old luggage and I'm like, god, damn, they unfold they

1869
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: send me these people. There's like, do you know who

1870
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: this is? I'm like, no, that looks like a dude.

1871
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: They was like, oh, it's a female. Because whoever it was.

1872
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I was like, well, the face looks pixelized. What is

1873
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: it given? And they were like, um, are you the

1874
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: only person that your people was dealing with? I said, well,

1875
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: far as I know, Like how the fun I can't

1876
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: even call my kids hardy out here. I have to

1877
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: use y'all phones to check on my kids. They were like, well,

1878
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 1: we have reason to believe that he has someone else

1879
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: in his life, because he has someone in his phone

1880
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: saved this W two. I'm like, like as a tax phone,

1881
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: as in like woman number two, like a wo They

1882
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: said it would save that W two and I said,

1883
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: I do not know who. I was thinking W two

1884
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: or maybe two when they actually it was like, okay,

1885
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: you know how long i've been leagal I've been. I

1886
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: thought about straight lead and that's what I was taking.

1887
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I was like, give you two. I was like, well,

1888
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 1: you know people on the East Coast they run scars.

1889
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Maybe she funneling somebody in W two. Like we don't

1890
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: do W. We do T ninety nine. So I don't

1891
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: know who fun this is. So they okay, so we're

1892
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna give you some time, and we're gonna give him

1893
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: time to let you know because we've already discussed this

1894
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: with him, so you never know what's going on. So

1895
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: they gave him Bamble enough time to say, listen, this

1896
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 1: is what I did. And they caught me slipping. But

1897
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: because we don't talk in the house, we're bringing notes

1898
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: and in the bathroom is the safest place where you

1899
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: can write but don't talk. So he has Yeah, they

1900
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: sent me on the phone with my sister that when

1901
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 1: I said I love you and she said she loves

1902
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: you back. They thinking somebody, all right, bet what I'm

1903
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: thinking about the picture, But that's only her sister. Okay,

1904
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: So now now I get into defense mode. So then

1905
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: they take us both into the white room and they're like, yo,

1906
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: so do you want did you have a chance to

1907
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: discuss what you He starts going off on the doctor.

1908
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 1: I said, set your ass down. Don't talk to a

1909
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 1: man like that, because you know if you hit them,

1910
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: you're getting prosecuted. Like it's a clause in there. If

1911
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: you touch one of them doctors, you're you're getting arrested.

1912
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: For us all and then and then you're getting kicked

1913
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: off and you're not gonna get paid periods like you

1914
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you already know the vibes sit your ask there, why

1915
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: are you being so defensive? What the fun going on?

1916
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of nowhere, and how the fun?

1917
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: But if a motherucker's gonna do what they want to do,

1918
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that ship underground up in the air

1919
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, We're gonna do what they

1920
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: want to do. Boom. So I had to play it

1921
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: off at that point, and I'm just like, damn, like

1922
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: should I'm out here trying to fix the situation. But

1923
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 1: I realized that situation even though it's marriage, but can't.

1924
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: I went in to fix myself because I already knew

1925
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: what the fun was going on, and I knew what

1926
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: the funk was hitting for. But I needed to face

1927
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: the reality that I was allowing my brand to be compromised.

1928
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I was allowing my integrity to be compromised, which my

1929
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: dad told me never compromising integrity. I was allowing my

1930
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: personal space to be compromised, and I was by mental

1931
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 1: emotion to no physical, spiritual everything was compromised. So I

1932
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: needed those twenty eight days to break me down, because

1933
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: once I get out of this, I'm up and it's stuck.

1934
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: And then, you know, we've been saying that for years,

1935
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: what's up? It's up for you when it's because you

1936
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: know when it's up there, my heart, my daughter said,

1937
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, something like that. It's up in

1938
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: the stuff. So when they came out with a song,

1939
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, it is what it is. So

1940
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: after that I realized, now it's trying to make your

1941
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: way of escape so you could stay and know the

1942
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: bullshit you dealing with and know that it's actually destroying

1943
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: your brand because once you don't know what they're keeping

1944
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: far as the footage, but once it's once it's out there,

1945
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: you already know what people's d m and you and

1946
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: sending you. You already know the truth. It's tough for

1947
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 1: you to face it. So me being a woman that comes.

1948
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: My parents are about to celebrate August night, they're celebrating

1949
01:42:55,200 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: forty years marriage. Both parents grew in church, grew up military, like,

1950
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: grew up bedtime, you know, a very lenient home. So

1951
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: what I was doing and how I grew up wasn't

1952
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 1: matching up. I was accepting things that I shouldn't even

1953
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:17,560
Speaker 1: allow to permeate my space. So it was just like

1954
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: I had to make a choice. But when you're trying

1955
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: to leave a situation after the world was about to

1956
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: see like damn, I thought you was married this this

1957
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: is your third marriage. When they showed a thing like damn,

1958
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: bit a lady talking one time, every time I turned around,

1959
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: you get married. I saw a bit stop turning around.

1960
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: But then I had to realize for myself, fish stopped

1961
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: making permanent decision off temporary emotions. So I took that

1962
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: accountbating for myself. So honestly, marriage boot camp was for

1963
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: me to get my mentor together because it will put

1964
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: you in the space where you have no other choice

1965
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: but to fix fix it. Yeah, So it didn't complicated

1966
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: at all because I had a domestic uh case open

1967
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 1: with is a p F a protection from abused, So

1968
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: people a lot of people don't know, but people were

1969
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: telling me, But I was defending a situation which we

1970
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: know what the fun going on. I'm like, fuck you bitch,

1971
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll beat your ass. Well, How'm gonna beat your ass?

1972
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: And I'm getting my ass beat. So I'm one of

1973
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: the people that followed through in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. You

1974
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 1: have to go three times to the court, and I

1975
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: went all three times, so I have a detective order.

1976
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 1: So with that, my divorces find on everything. I realized

1977
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: and dr Ish, the black guy, he came to me.

1978
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't ever con like. I don't

1979
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: never push for divorce or for people to break up.

1980
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just tell you mo once he said, Cynthia,

1981
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: that's my realm name. Once you realize who you are,

1982
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna make the right decisions and you're

1983
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: gonna level up. And I asked you this early in

1984
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: a different way. Um, so you were lady to marry

1985
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: j Blis when when she felt like that very much?

1986
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: And on Hot Boys video set because I'll start crying

1987
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: that when this one ship get real. Me, I took

1988
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: my used to always go with my sister everywhere. I

1989
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: always keep somebody with my family close because I don't

1990
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: trust the industry. Peoples will try to lie you. I've

1991
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: been I've been a situation with people try to on people.

1992
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to do with that. Um Mary

1993
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 1: j Blache had got and we were in our trailers

1994
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: and she was just shooting a scene and so for

1995
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: some way reason Hot Boys video shooting, I had my

1996
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 1: sister with me and my sister like, I want to

1997
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: meet Eve. I was like, let's go say how to marry?

1998
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: She with her sister, Lutalian Mary Grahamed. She was like,

1999
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I still have the picture to

2000
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 1: this day with me and my sister from the Hot

2001
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Boys set. She was like, yeah, I got so. She

2002
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: used to call us the pretty Whig sisters. She was like, yeah,

2003
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: I've got some pretty wig so mind you. I'm just

2004
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: getting the industry. And I meet Mary J. Blige and

2005
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm so freaking hight. Mary says, let me tell you something.

2006
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Don't trust under these motherfucker's and keep your family close.

2007
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: Why she sounds like Mary right now, like her, you

2008
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: just you just embedded her. She told me that that

2009
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: was the nineteen She said, don't trust sun of these

2010
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and keep your sister close, keep your family like

2011
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: your real family clothes because people will play like their

2012
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: family and they don't. But she was like, will you

2013
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: get your wigs from? I was like, oh, my friend

2014
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: got it from Flatbush. As she ordered the twenty dollars,

2015
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: she said the fuck No, paid twenty dollars and we

2016
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 1: just paid the thousand dollars for these to be floating.

2017
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: And I said, now we get these just from Flatbush.

2018
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: My girl, my whole girl. Yes, she buys. I give

2019
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 1: a hundred. She bought five wigs and she styles them

2020
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: up so while people are charging the thals and she

2021
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: getting them from the line, she the line, she just

2022
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: saws and she called us the pretty Weig sisters. And

2023
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: then after that, I never forgot this. So every time

2024
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: I see Mary's always loved. She always like documentary. I

2025
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but I saw pieces of it

2026
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: because I saw it with me supposed and I saw it,

2027
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, damn, that ship. I've I've seen

2028
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: tours with Mary and I've been a lot of her shows,

2029
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, I feel that I know

2030
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,560
Speaker 1: what it's like to be on I was addicted to

2031
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: opioids ecstacy. When I googled you, um, that was the

2032
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: third and that came up was opioids And I don't

2033
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: exactly know what is. Can you explain that wells are

2034
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: like percosets and it's a narcotic But it started with

2035
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 1: prescribed pills. It started with prescribed pills because us as

2036
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: in the black community, when we think of opioids, we

2037
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: always think that's a white thing. Yeah we're not realizing,

2038
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: But I don't live in a black neighborhood. You know

2039
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 1: what's crazy is the soccer moms. That's who be lit.

2040
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: You wonder why they'd be so hyping the carras be

2041
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: so lit. I'm like, oh, she's on man's wait wait there.

2042
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Mostly they don't mostly purposes. They mostly do zanix a

2043
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. Like when I was the amount

2044
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: that I was doing for my height and my weight,

2045
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 1: it was unacceptable. So how does this happens? You you

2046
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: break a fingertip or something that you go to the doctor.

2047
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: All my children I have five children, all five were

2048
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: born via since area. So they give you all of them.

2049
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 1: And what does that? People that they cut you open.

2050
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 1: You don't push it out your pal all right, so

2051
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: cut you so they got used mads. After that they

2052
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: give you they give you a spinal so they don't

2053
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 1: give you a normal apple duel. So that means from

2054
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: here on down, well, from the waist on, from the

2055
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: ribs on down, everything is sleep. And before you can

2056
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: even go see your kid, for real, and before you

2057
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: go you have to you have to move your feet,

2058
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 1: is certain things you have to do. So when you

2059
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: have a V a vaginal birth, you can literally go

2060
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: home the next day. We have a C section, you're

2061
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:30,839
Speaker 1: doing five days automatically. It's literally the most it's dangerous

2062
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: because everything is sleeping. A lot of people they'll do

2063
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: V back, which is vaginal birth after Ssian. But I

2064
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: don't want to feel no labor, so I opted for

2065
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: all cesaria. But I realized now I was just getting

2066
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: necessary because I didn't want to feel no pain because

2067
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna throw enough in my life. So medicate

2068
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 1: me and give me my perks. And then after after

2069
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 1: these you're saying, after the the highest level of men's

2070
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: that you can get. Because what I'm saying, when when

2071
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,679
Speaker 1: did you become to your thought, did you was addicted?

2072
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: It's after all five kids, or this is in between.

2073
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: It was between really because of day was giving you

2074
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: because they'll give you the mass. And then when they

2075
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: when they come past the point where it becomes uh,

2076
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: doctors can't lose their license for overprescribing. So then we

2077
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 1: start going to the street to try to pay an

2078
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: extra money. A thirty on the street now sixty dollars.

2079
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: Before it was like sixty's a shower. Thirty is the highest.

2080
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: If you go over that, then you're just asking motherfucking deaf,

2081
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 1: you might as well just do heroin. But I never

2082
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: wanted to do heroin because I'm like, oh, now I

2083
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 1: can't see myself. Are you are aware of what's going on?

2084
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: Like you're aware that this is almost this is like

2085
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 1: considered real drugs, even though you know you're getting it

2086
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: from a doctor, Like did you ever consider that this

2087
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: is crazy? Or I didn't care? Okay, because I'm like,

2088
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm in the music industry. I'm a rock star and

2089
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: popp acts on a smoke weed and I did coke,

2090
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: never did heron, never did math. So I'm just like

2091
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: everybody else is doing it. You'd be surprised how many

2092
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: people at this Molly set. But I try to give

2093
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 1: him perket he wouldn't even make it. Will you try

2094
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: to get Future Perfect at a Philly show? And he

2095
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it? He was like no recently, this is

2096
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: when this is about five four or five years ago.

2097
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: It was him Todd dollars on at the show and

2098
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I tried and I was just like, what the fund

2099
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: is you doing? Mo? And he was like, no, I'm

2100
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 1: not gonna perform like that. So I was just like,

2101
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, you're saying what are you doing? More?

2102
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: Because you hear you all listening to his Yeah, how

2103
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the line because I hear a

2104
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: song and I automatically assume that's what he does, just

2105
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: because somebody says, almost shoot up the club. Nobody's yeah,

2106
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: Like just because people say it don't mean they really

2107
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: do it. We know, what's what's the way? Philly? He's

2108
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: in Philly and you come to him, and how do

2109
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: you describe this situation? You say, what's up? Bro? I

2110
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: go because I'm saying future for years, I've known it

2111
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: for years. Like so it's like aways a double cup,

2112
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, And we were actually I think we will

2113
01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: you know what you're trying to say that we were

2114
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: like we were actually that's that's make everybody drinks before

2115
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 1: this show because it's honestly it's a comment. But the

2116
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 1: double cut means scissor. That doesn't mean no, he didn't

2117
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: have that. We were actually making well I used to

2118
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: do to really like I don't understand how I'm still alive.

2119
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you because I've had a situations where

2120
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: I've had to be hospitalized. But we were making sandwiches

2121
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: and so we were getting a picture. I took it

2122
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: m throwing up a dome like damn, we would just eat,

2123
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yo, you're good. You want some.

2124
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I got onto fives and some tens

2125
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, I'm good. He's like I

2126
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to perform like that, and I was like,

2127
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: I respect that. Fives and some tens just pink this

2128
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: green there's white, So fives of the whites, that's the

2129
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: lowest millgram thirties those are for the heavier us. Yeah,

2130
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: and what are we talking about? What is the perks

2131
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: of perks? What do you yeah? The person? Honestly, if

2132
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 1: you don't, it's a it's a pay man. It's the

2133
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: highest level of pay man. So when you're all them,

2134
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: you become aggressive because you feel nothing. You don't feel anything.

2135
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's it's almost like it's an upper So

2136
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 1: it makes you feel a cocai, but it makes you

2137
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like you're invincible. So I won't be in here

2138
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: throwing it around. See when you start mixing stuff. I've

2139
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: been in places where I'm knocked it over. I'm gonnaknock

2140
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: all this ship over you. You know what I'm saying.

2141
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, damn, like I really let myself

2142
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. But you you said a co car?

2143
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: What does this co car? I feel like upper so

2144
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: love story. It's just like I did. That was back

2145
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: in the days first you did cocaine with. Honestly, I

2146
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: don't do drugs in front of people really because I've

2147
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: always had fear or they're gonna have me looking crazy

2148
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 1: and my butt be out like some weird ship. I

2149
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: remember being high of X and I had to tell

2150
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: my manager at the time, like because she gripped me up.

2151
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: I was with Snoop and Joey i A and I

2152
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: was about to get hurts how and she was like,

2153
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: sit your ass down, don't you ruin this party because

2154
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: this is not your this is not your place. And

2155
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: I sat my ass down and I went in the room,

2156
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: and I remember crying because I thought the phone was

2157
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: on fire. I was like, can we please get my

2158
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: mother on the phone because I don't want to be

2159
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: this high. The phone was on fire and that's what

2160
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like to me. Ecstasy is weird,

2161
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 1: so I stopped that. But I was chasing that high

2162
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: from purpose. Well, I hadn't done perks about it. I

2163
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: was just doing X halves and holes. I thought I

2164
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 1: was a rock star. Yeah, but I would sing a

2165
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: show and be killing it, so I wasn't like singing

2166
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: all weird and something. To me, that's what helped job

2167
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 1: rule is ecstasy. It helped a lot of artists. You'd

2168
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 1: be surprised they what gospel artists? Artists? Did you say? Gods?

2169
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Who artists? They do drugs too. There's a couple of them.

2170
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised because it's like artists just because they

2171
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 1: sing a certain genre music, you just never know what

2172
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 1: the person is going through. And not realized what I

2173
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: was going through. I realized that I was trying to

2174
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: cover the pain with pills, but it was actually destroying

2175
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: my spirit. So that's why I we're retalited. I'll be

2176
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: throwing shoes that bitches be trying to fight, Like the

2177
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 1: last straw was. I remember, I was off a pill.

2178
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 1: I was off a Zanni No, I was off Addie

2179
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: and a perk and my white friends take this. It's

2180
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: actually subscribed at a roller for actually is to calm

2181
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you and to keep you focused. So it's those those

2182
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: pills aren't designed to make you go crazy, but when

2183
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you start making cocktails and using them, it does your system.

2184
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: Just like, wait, what the going on? What was the cocktail? Cocktails?

2185
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 1: Alcohol to start your dad? So me being four eleven

2186
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 1: pos back then, I was like one fifteen? How am

2187
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I still alive? So that's when I had to become

2188
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 1: an advocate because I'm just like, yo, this ship because

2189
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: once the high come down, you'd be so aggravated. That's

2190
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: when I started cursing everybody out. The funk you're talking about,

2191
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 1: bitch will pop out like what And a lot of

2192
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 1: people I had lost a whole, like a lot of

2193
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: fans like it was making the blogs. I'm like, well,

2194
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: the stuff I promote, y'all don't post up, But when

2195
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: I talk crazy to people, that's what y'all post up.

2196
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: So I thought I had to had had the music

2197
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: and this on the radio. No, now I was on

2198
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: the radio because I know that we're radio. I had

2199
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: said something someone one time and they called the radio

2200
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: station trying to get me fired. I said, you can't

2201
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: give me fired, which I'm number one, so I became

2202
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: copy at that point. That morning show was hard to

2203
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 1: be number one, but people would call and complain. But

2204
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: then when they call and complain and too much, you

2205
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 1: just like, all right, I gotta fall back. But nobody

2206
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 1: would tell me because I wouldn't listen because she was

2207
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: on the y'all. Of y'all. Yeah, it was on the

2208
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: y'all to me. But but you think it's individuals. Literally

2209
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning going to the radio

2210
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: station to be there at five four, six o'clock show,

2211
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Hi on my fucking mind. But I had another one show,

2212
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 1: so I thought, oh, this is what everybody does. But

2213
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: you think it's individuals that need this. You think it's

2214
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 1: it's industry white that everybody like the industry. They start

2215
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: this is the crush that everybody needs to deal with

2216
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: all the social bullshit. The you don't need it to

2217
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: deal with because a lot of people with the industry,

2218
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with the bullshit. So if

2219
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: so many people, I can look at people right now

2220
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 1: because I've come from that high ship you think you

2221
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: regularly Now I really can't I could tell when she's

2222
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: I can literally tell, because it's not even the fact

2223
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: that maybe they popped the field. I can feel the spirit.

2224
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: You can tell I need to explanation. You could just

2225
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: tell by their mannerisms, Like like I can look back

2226
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: at interviews and I can tell when I was just

2227
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: sitting there doing all this like business because I'm naturally fidgety,

2228
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: because I'm just like I have an O. C D.

2229
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: Like I want to dust this able off so bad.

2230
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 1: But I looked back at interviews and I could tell

2231
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: how aggressive, how emotionally. Yes, I had what she was

2232
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: a radio okay, and you all thought she was when

2233
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: you get the radio show. Probably so, But I didn't

2234
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: care because I probably was hot too. I'll expect the

2235
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: answer what I talks. I'm a survival domestic violence and drugs,

2236
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: the things that I grew up in a Christian household.

2237
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: My dad's a bishop, my mom's an Avengers. So everything

2238
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 1: that they were against I became. But I had to

2239
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 1: draw the line because I have children. I don't want

2240
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: them to come back. My kids can read. My five

2241
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 1: year old reads on the sixth grade reading level from

2242
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: all right, So what was it? What was the moment

2243
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 1: where you was like, this is it for me? Um,

2244
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: don't tell me marriage? Boucan Now. I was after that

2245
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: because before I already knew I had to make a

2246
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 1: change and I had to stop. But I remember being

2247
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 1: told I'm gonna blow your hand off and you're gonna

2248
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: throw you over this balcony, and everybody that I had

2249
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: been unding and facilitating didn't help. So I knew only

2250
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: one place to run, and that's where I ran, and

2251
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: that's when I was just like I was tired of

2252
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: seeing and feeling like that. And honestly, I think I

2253
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: was more afraid of going through the withdrawal because a

2254
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: period you have to go through from anything from relationship, yes,

2255
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: it feels like death because I've tried it before and

2256
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I can't do this, Just get

2257
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: me a pill. But I was afraid of a withdrawal

2258
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: and it was just like you want to die or

2259
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: and be selfish because you have children, or you wanna

2260
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: start from scratch, and started from scratch literally means starting

2261
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: everything over everything. So I was just like, nah, I

2262
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: didn't have these five children for no reason. And I

2263
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: know they was tired to see him because I wouldn't

2264
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: do stuff around up, but they could tell by my

2265
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: mannerisms and what was being posted online, like they can

2266
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: read and they can see. And when my son would

2267
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: come to me and stuff like look what somebody said,

2268
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: I would like get off the end the net. Stop.

2269
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: But that's all they know. Nobody watches TV. They google everything,

2270
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 1: they see everything. And I've also seen on Jason Lee

2271
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: show thing it's this podcast or something, and Jason Lee

2272
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 1: said he was asking you and you said that you

2273
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 1: went to a moment of depression, right, And um, I

2274
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: believe he said that you had to stay away from

2275
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: everybody at one point. Yeah, or what happened that? Then?

2276
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: Why did you feel like that? Because I knew that

2277
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 1: being around the industry and people it was toxic. And

2278
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was them, it was me because

2279
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I know that when I come around and returned, and

2280
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 1: it just felt like, as my now manager says, it

2281
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: feels like people were paying you to go to go away,

2282
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: And I said, what you mean about this, because it'll

2283
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 1: go from making a certain amount of night to people

2284
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: just trying to offer you anything, and just like, well,

2285
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 1: I'd rather get paid this this anything than do it

2286
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: for free. And it's just like, nah, I ain't nah, like,

2287
01:59:56,440 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: don't play with me, especially not now, and people I

2288
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: thought that they could play with me, even recently. And

2289
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: that's where I say it was a test to see

2290
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 1: if you're fall for the oaky dope or if you're

2291
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: fall for the bullshit, or if you're gonna stand on

2292
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You came back to do and I

2293
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: had to stand firm or even things that I think

2294
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 1: would have pushed me to a higher visible position because

2295
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 1: everything now was about the lifestyle and they want to

2296
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: see you with the bus now rolling, They want to

2297
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 1: see what the aps they want to But I was flying.

2298
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: We was flying on Leo Cohen's jet in ninety nine.

2299
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 1: So when I see people and just I'm like, damn,

2300
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: I did that and I wasn't even you feel me.

2301
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: We had the bust that people who stole all the

2302
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: rings in the jury, Like I've been there, done that,

2303
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: So that stuff doesn't impress me. But I get it

2304
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 1: my kids, I get it. Kids are impressionable. So it's

2305
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: just like now I have to reintroduce a different glow

2306
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: so you might not see me with oh, or I

2307
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: had the grills I had and all of that I

2308
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 1: did that. Now the glow that has to be translution

2309
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 1: that people that will respect is the one from within.

2310
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 1: So when somebody say, oh, we want you to be

2311
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 1: on this TV show for twenty five the funk out

2312
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: in my my mortgage alone, I was told, don't step

2313
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: out your house. You can pay mortgage for since months period.

2314
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 1: Don't play with with, don't play with shout out the

2315
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: Organic Food Kings. Incredible. We got the truck outside at

2316
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: Organic Food Kings. Make sure you check them out. We're

2317
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna be eating them all the time right now? Do

2318
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 1: you do you agreetum? Would you regret anything in life, like,

2319
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to entertainment, not even your personal

2320
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: just entertainment. I have no regrets. I have some reservations

2321
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: on things that I said and I did, and I

2322
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 1: always felt that, oh that's who I am, but honestly

2323
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: that's not how I was raised. So the fact that

2324
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: I get a second chance to revisit and people are

2325
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: just like, we believe you more, all right, Because when

2326
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 1: you don't realize who you are and people come to

2327
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 1: be like, but do you see what the is going on? Like?

2328
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Why are you letting this happen? I'm like, my your

2329
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:52,480
Speaker 1: fucking business, that's me. It's just like when you realize

2330
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't regret anything. I wish I would have did

2331
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: things differently, but I wouldn't have got married three times.

2332
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: I should not have did that. I've let people in

2333
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 1: my circle, in my personal and in my spirit that

2334
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even you think these men took advantage? Are

2335
02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: you totally? Because Google nothing pops up but my name.

2336
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 1: So now when I see people like old nickas Baby Mama's,

2337
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, bo, look who they associated with.

2338
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 1: So how I'm on tour? I told with jay Z,

2339
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 1: I told fifty Cent, I told Miss l A, I

2340
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: told with y'all Rule Grand Stages, would Keith Sweat and

2341
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:36,280
Speaker 1: Payla Bell, Joe LeVert, I've been on Jimmy Kimmel, I

2342
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 1: was on Jay Leno. I rocked all these shows before

2343
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 1: they were How the fuck is you over there with y'all?

2344
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: From the y'all from the y'all men y'all? So who's

2345
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the game? Is it making the

2346
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 1: music or performing the music? Performing? I hate the studio.

2347
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 1: I feel so closed and I feel so stuck, and

2348
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 1: then I'll always go out and listen and I know that,

2349
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: oh you don't have to overdo it no more. You

2350
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 1: don't have to oversing but live, you can give it

2351
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 1: your all. So I really wish that I could sing

2352
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 1: songs live and then people know them because I hate

2353
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 1: the city and the energy you get from the WHOA,

2354
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: why would you hate the studio? I don't think I've

2355
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: ever heard. I hate being in the booth. I hate

2356
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: when the headphone like the studio I work out on

2357
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 1: One day, somebody broke the headphones that I'm used to,

2358
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: so when I had to use some new headphones, people

2359
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: might think that I'm just like, nah, I just know

2360
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 1: what I want to hear, clutching my ears a certain way.

2361
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm just used to it. So I realized that maybe

2362
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 1: I need to to take the bus headphones out. I mean,

2363
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 1: but I bust like seven headphones all the time because

2364
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: all the way, So people be like, how do you

2365
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 1: listen to it so loud? You saying, I'm like, I

2366
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: just want to hear it loud. I want to like,

2367
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have it up, So maybe

2368
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: I want to step back from the mic because we

2369
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: can hear leading in I'm like, oh, well, you figure

2370
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 1: it out that to do with me. Hello, wow, No,

2371
02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 1: just election, even though it was weird, it was yeah

2372
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: ye wow wow yeah. And you have a podcast as well. Right, well,

2373
02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 1: I did the podcast like two years ago and I

2374
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: was traveling to New York. I actually had the little motion.

2375
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 1: We was running right above Medicine Square Gardeners. It was

2376
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 1: like a little situation was, um, I forgot the station

2377
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 1: that was over there. They had a nice room, was

2378
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 1: like a stage and everything. So I was doing a

2379
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: podcast and I just realized, like the artist side, you

2380
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 1: have to like pick a side with R and B

2381
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: because when you're doing interviews and you have to discuss

2382
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 1: uh current events and when somebody do something crazy and

2383
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: you have to talk about it, people think that you hate.

2384
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: And I'm just like I literally used to have to

2385
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: tell artists will stop doing dumb ship and we don't

2386
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: have to report so because I really have to focus

2387
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 1: on my craft and my glow. It's just like I'll

2388
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: do the podcast where like everybody has a podcast. Now

2389
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 1: everybody's podcast, and I'll be like there's some people I

2390
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 1: be like, don't nobody. Then you gotta say, like people

2391
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 1: just think you get on the took. They don't realize

2392
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 1: this production is you have to stay current content everything.

2393
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 1: But I learned that from radio. So I literally came

2394
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 1: from Major and learned everything from the artist side to

2395
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: the radio side. Yeah, so it's like now I know

2396
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 1: how to rock it. So once I do my show

2397
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 1: this time, I think it would be through the roof

2398
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 1: because I got the friendships and the relationships where I

2399
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 1: could call anybody be on. But you gotta make sure

2400
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: people care. And did you like the reality TV when

2401
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 1: you did it? I did. But at the same time,

2402
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: it's just like I know that the higher ups have

2403
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: their favorites. He've be like, well they you know these episodes,

2404
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know what see. I'm a part of that.

2405
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm a part of the industry, but I'm also part

2406
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 1: of the don't care society, So they'll be showing stuff

2407
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 1: on to you, like don't nobody care? Like what did

2408
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:02,400
Speaker 1: you think? Nobody who care about? Right now? Every do

2409
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 1: you want to care about? Foolishness? Like if you're artists,

2410
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 1: they just want to hear you sing. People just I

2411
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: just look at the show you hate right now. I

2412
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: don't even watch TV. The last I watched movies, I

2413
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 1: watched movies. Okay, what's what's a good movie? I just

2414
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: watched the movie. It was at what was called I

2415
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 1: Saw the Devil and it's totally in It's Japanese but

2416
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 1: they have the subtitles. Yeah, maybe like he was, he

2417
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 1: was not a canible. He was dismembering people, but he

2418
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be caught, but they couldn't catch him. And

2419
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: he killed the FBI Japanese FBI agents. Uh fiance and

2420
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: she was pregnant, so he started killing ship. She was training.

2421
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:54,000
Speaker 1: What's that ship? Um um? Not hard boy, you hard boil,

2422
02:06:55,920 --> 02:07:00,879
Speaker 1: hard boil. I watched The Family guy, watched Total Comedy.

2423
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 1: Sat tired. Okay, it was a great comedy movie. You

2424
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 1: like Stepbrothers. Yeah. Me and my son were watching The

2425
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Holy and like we'll go place. My son went to

2426
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:24,080
Speaker 1: something one day, he went to up. He went to

2427
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: he started football workout and they was just like yo,

2428
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 1: just they tld my son just they was like, you

2429
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: missed three passions, you trash. She was like, well that

2430
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 1: guy was a rip off. My son is hilarious. He

2431
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 1: said stuff around me. I'm just like, I don't know

2432
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:41,960
Speaker 1: if a son should be saying to a parent like

2433
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Mom, yesterday was so hot, it was

2434
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: hot as tips outside. What son says that to their

2435
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 1: money getting a lot of money because he's raised right,

2436
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 1: Because no real hood kid is saying it's hot as

2437
02:07:54,720 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: tips outside. I've never life said that that word in

2438
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 1: front of my mother, and I've grown to this day

2439
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:06,840
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll say boobs, but I'm like, oh,

2440
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 1: my kids. Really the worst things he could be saying. Yeah,

2441
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:12,400
Speaker 1: the stuff that my son says and the thing he's watching.

2442
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: If he's like from the hood in the hood, even

2443
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: as hot as right is allan and that's not a

2444
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 1: good thing. My five year old when he u he

2445
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: just got out of kindergarten, so they did have virtual

2446
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 1: and then they left them in for four days a week.

2447
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: The last day of school, he was like, yes, it's

2448
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot summer. It's lyddy as a titty.

2449
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna smacking away from me as Okay. Now,

2450
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 1: they just announced Bobby Brown against keep Swam. Yeah tomorrow,

2451
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 1: well July first, July one, so this is this is

2452
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 1: this would be out next week, so this had already happened. Ye,

2453
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 1: who did you pay back to the future Okay. So

2454
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 1: because I've worked with both, I haven't done this your

2455
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Yeah, I keep sweat, So that's automatically my pick.

2456
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna go against my prerogative, Well, let me tell

2457
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 1: you something. Wait, new edition gonna be there. No, no,

2458
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm just staying the bag. But they both worked with

2459
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley, So honestly, this is really Teddy versus himself.

2460
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Are we taking a shot? Are we taking the shot?

2461
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot. I don't know where you're going

2462
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 1: with this because I was just like with Bobby Brown.

2463
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: He was the original bad boy. So my my brother

2464
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 1: three thousand times, no, my brother got a work one

2465
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 1: time when when my karaget came out, my brother was dancember.

2466
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: When our Send Your Hall was out, my brother used

2467
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 1: to be dancing and we were supposed to be in

2468
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 1: bad because my brother's finger. Yeah, and my brother dance

2469
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 1: and paragetive and he got a whip and my dad

2470
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 1: was like, I told you to go to bed and

2471
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 1: stop Bobby Brownie. So when that he used to punk

2472
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 1: and dance like the R and B singers used to,

2473
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 1: my dad said stop Bobby Brown and he was like

2474
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: that was inappropriate. So homies. Why y'all gotta dance Bobby Browning,

2475
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: I would like to learn that Bobby brown Why didn't

2476
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 1: do this now that we need brown You don't I

2477
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:18,080
Speaker 1: want the Bobby. But the R and B singers used

2478
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 1: to go like this, This Bobby Bobby was the original

2479
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 1: bad boy. So he can't watch you. We watch you

2480
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 1: because we gotta drive you gotta relax. Yeah, you like

2481
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:44,880
Speaker 1: do all this pandemic everything. You're a motherfucking about giving

2482
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 1: artists the flowers, and you deserve your flowers. You have

2483
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:52,760
Speaker 1: always been there. I've never seen you, you know, with

2484
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 1: the sour puss face. I've always seen you happy. I've

2485
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: always seen you you didd working, busting your ass, and

2486
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 1: you just serve to be there. You deserve to be

2487
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: the legend that you are, and we want to tell

2488
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 1: you to this space we invented giving people the flowers.

2489
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. Everyone's saying, I don't know,

2490
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 1: it's real talk. Everyone's saying that now. But we did

2491
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 1: this right here in the same exact place we said

2492
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,280
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to interview the new artists, not

2493
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 1: because we don't got love for the new artists what

2494
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 1: we do, but they have the Hot Lady sevens, they

2495
02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 1: have the Power one of fives, they have these all

2496
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: other outlets. Where's the outlets for the people who've been

2497
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 1: here ten years and more of the seasons and that

2498
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 1: still want to be here, and you know what, they

2499
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 1: deserve their flowers, And this is what we did. We

2500
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 1: don't want something to happen to you and say, oh

2501
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, this is what they deserve. So this

2502
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 1: is what we we. We didn't it been the whole

2503
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 1: flower thing, but we invented in the hip hop saying

2504
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 1: giving the people the flowers, just in case you don't know,

2505
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 1: you deserve your motherfucking flowers, the flowers. That's you're a legend.

2506
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:56,920
Speaker 1: You're um and pursuing on do you did you? Did

2507
02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 1: you think that when you first started that you would

2508
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 1: survive this long? No? Because I literally used to take

2509
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 1: it for a joke, singing or you know how people

2510
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 1: who have like, oh I grew up with Barry GORDONO

2511
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:14,200
Speaker 1: I grew up with I grew up in a Stevie

2512
02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: Wonder's house, or people had that story. I never had

2513
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 1: that story. I literally moved back to you saying his

2514
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 1: eyes on the sparrow, and um, Chuck Bone told me

2515
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:25,720
Speaker 1: when I because I was gonna sign to uh different

2516
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 1: labels back in the day, but the lecture was the

2517
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 1: ultimate choice. Umpire Yeah, not only that, but was there

2518
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,480
Speaker 1: it's not a get Yeah, I was supposed to sign

2519
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: a Tommy Boy. It was like certain labels that I

2520
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:50,400
Speaker 1: had to boy. Hello, looking at your flowers soon, man,

2521
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 1: because he did make me a lot of I had.

2522
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: Who was I forgot the lady's name. She brought me

2523
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:56,200
Speaker 1: over there, and she was like, I think she's gonna

2524
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 1: be amazing if I hear her name. I don't remember it,

2525
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 1: not Carolyn Will. She was kind of she was heavy

2526
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:05,600
Speaker 1: saying I forgot her name, but she she might have

2527
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:07,920
Speaker 1: not even really work there. Hello, because you know, people

2528
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:11,480
Speaker 1: used to cat but we couldn't say nothing. You couldn't google.

2529
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:15,480
Speaker 1: They was the assistant, but now a lot of assistants

2530
02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: are executives. So I've seen it. But like, just like

2531
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:25,440
Speaker 1: just looking over how I got in the door, Chuck

2532
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 1: Bone told me one day, he was just like, you know,

2533
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:29,400
Speaker 1: you talk a lot of ship, but for some reason,

2534
02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 1: I believe you could back it up. So I don't

2535
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:33,560
Speaker 1: know where it came from. I literally were going to

2536
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: meet and act like I already had a record there,

2537
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 1: and I just always acted as if that. I was

2538
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 1: just like I already knew what I said and sought

2539
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: out to do. I didn't leave home at seventeen to lose,

2540
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 1: So even though I took some hits in between, I

2541
02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: was just like, no, I'm always I don't know, like,

2542
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what game got driving motivation then, But

2543
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 1: now what motivates me is my children, because I love

2544
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 1: I love my kids like the pandemic was a blessing

2545
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 1: because ever since the age of seventeen, actually before that fifteen,

2546
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:07,440
Speaker 1: I've been on the road. So I didn't know what

2547
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,200
Speaker 1: it was to sit down my ASTs down. Four year

2548
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 1: I would have a kid and within six weeks we'd

2549
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:12,960
Speaker 1: be out. We've been on the road. My daughter was

2550
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 1: on a tour in Jamaica with me. She's eighteen now.

2551
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 1: But I was just like, y'all literally ain't never set

2552
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 1: my eyes down. So this year I had to take off.

2553
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:28,800
Speaker 1: I got to refocus, rebrand, revisit, reglow everything everything that

2554
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 1: we didn't get a defenditive answer of Bobby or keep sweat.

2555
02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:37,160
Speaker 1: We didn't get a defensive answer. Okay, Bobby was the

2556
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 1: bad boy, but Keith Sweat, it's almost Likenel and then

2557
02:14:46,040 --> 02:15:00,720
Speaker 1: still coming home, yeah yeah, yeah, getting people. Bobby he

2558
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 1: won one of his joint Honestly, I think the safer

2559
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:05,800
Speaker 1: true I've never heard. All right, I would have to

2560
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:08,360
Speaker 1: choose Keep Sweat for safety reasons, right because he got

2561
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 1: to Jerry drib not even that okay, but Keep like

2562
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:14,000
Speaker 1: we've never seen him. But Bobby was a bad boy.

2563
02:15:14,080 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 1: So I would hang out with Bobby, but I would

2564
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 1: ride get a rod home from Keith Sweat all because

2565
02:15:18,240 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 1: Bobby he gonna strow cocaine everywhere. See, I've never seen

2566
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 1: him do. But Bobby just used to be some print

2567
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 1: ship and because they came from Louis ship. He just said,

2568
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:32,800
Speaker 1: I've read some stories about James. I was just like, yo,

2569
02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 1: he was lit when they said that man who told

2570
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:39,280
Speaker 1: that story? Where did I hear that? On the table

2571
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:44,600
Speaker 1: he threw the cocaine at the President. He was by

2572
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 1: brown fried chicken with cocaine. Now, that's that's pretty out

2573
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:51,160
Speaker 1: of control. That's like, you know, like the flower the

2574
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:57,880
Speaker 1: bat weed better, but then cocaine, cocaine got you gotta

2575
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 1: be asketball. That's expensive. That's who said that's in his book.

2576
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 1: He wrote that somebody wrote it was like, I'm gonna

2577
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 1: put something I don't even know you could fry coat,

2578
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 1: and then that's crazy. Man, I'm saying you're cooking cold.

2579
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 1: That's a chicken. I wouldn't even think, like I don't Yeah,

2580
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 1: that's the hot. I don't know how I started putting

2581
02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 1: it in his book, in his book. And not only that,

2582
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 1: when I met Bobby Brown a getting like the third

2583
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:36,160
Speaker 1: time and I met Brown, said what's up? He said,

2584
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:39,440
Speaker 1: man I performed. He said, we used to be hurting

2585
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:42,920
Speaker 1: your projects. That was the most I was like, yeah,

2586
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:45,640
Speaker 1: let men tell yourself. Stalking that ship because I used

2587
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:47,280
Speaker 1: to live in South Side, Jamaica, so I would have

2588
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 1: to go to beauty school. So when we were pasts

2589
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:52,000
Speaker 1: left Rock, I was like, damn, I want to meet Noria. Now.

2590
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:55,880
Speaker 1: I used to always think like people atomic like you

2591
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 1: draw pass and Nori would be there. Would I would

2592
02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:03,119
Speaker 1: have been. I used to be scared because left Rank

2593
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 1: is like Iraq, So it's just like you just don't

2594
02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:12,200
Speaker 1: go from Jamaica States where eventually moved to States. Yes, yeah,

2595
02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 1: it's very rich, you're very rich. Yes, hold the buildings.

2596
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,320
Speaker 1: So the building I lived in like, what the dad?

2597
02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 1: So he owns it now, but it's just like damn

2598
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 1: like and you can't get out those contracts. I'm probably

2599
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:31,279
Speaker 1: stilling it today. So when you overall the music industry,

2600
02:17:31,400 --> 02:17:35,880
Speaker 1: overall entertainment, what does your overall look at it? Like

2601
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:40,000
Speaker 1: you happy, you satisfy? Are you sure that you luck

2602
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 1: you you feel great that you participated? Or this is

2603
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 1: something that if you had a chance to do it

2604
02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:48,680
Speaker 1: all over you would pick a different career. No, I would.

2605
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:52,120
Speaker 1: This is the only job I've never worked at FedEx

2606
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 1: only I went to The most I've ever done was

2607
02:17:56,520 --> 02:17:58,240
Speaker 1: went to hair school. So this is all I know.

2608
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,520
Speaker 1: So honestly, I think I would have stayed more. I

2609
02:18:02,560 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 1: would have student more firm. And I've never been associated

2610
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:07,960
Speaker 1: now I have a team. I just always been associated

2611
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:09,760
Speaker 1: with people, so I was never I was always torn

2612
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:11,760
Speaker 1: with Murdering, but I wasn't never signed to them. I

2613
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:13,440
Speaker 1: was torn with Missy, but I was never signed to

2614
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 1: I went on the Rock the Mic tour, but I

2615
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:17,360
Speaker 1: wasn't signed the jay like the people that made the

2616
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:19,119
Speaker 1: calls and be like, yo, we want you to run around.

2617
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:21,560
Speaker 1: So it's just like I was never I was always

2618
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:24,840
Speaker 1: affiliating associated with things, but I never had anything for myself.

2619
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,080
Speaker 1: So now that I have a chance to rebrand, I

2620
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,119
Speaker 1: wish I would have done it sooner because I think

2621
02:18:29,160 --> 02:18:32,600
Speaker 1: I would be yummy. I would own everything because I

2622
02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:34,640
Speaker 1: know the way I think, but I would put people

2623
02:18:34,680 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 1: in positions to pass me. But I'm not doing that

2624
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,080
Speaker 1: no more, and I think that I should have done

2625
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:42,640
Speaker 1: it sooner. But I get it. I didn't know the game.

2626
02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:45,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have the management. Yeah, Like I was literally

2627
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things by myself. It felt like

2628
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I was paying people to be my friends and to

2629
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:52,960
Speaker 1: be around, so they would be management. It would be

2630
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:55,240
Speaker 1: certain things. But I'm just like, wait a minute, like

2631
02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:59,280
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't right. So I really thought

2632
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:01,760
Speaker 1: it was the inertainment industry, so I was thoroughly and

2633
02:19:01,879 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 1: highly entertained. But it's the music business. So I did

2634
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 1: the music, but I didn't handle the business. So now

2635
02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:09,280
Speaker 1: have a chance to get it right. That's why I'm

2636
02:19:09,320 --> 02:19:11,560
Speaker 1: just like, I'm back for my second goal. Like you,

2637
02:19:11,959 --> 02:19:13,920
Speaker 1: nobody can't kick me at it. And I've never only

2638
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:15,840
Speaker 1: think I've been kicked out was high school and they

2639
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 1: had to let me back in calling yes call, that's

2640
02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:27,000
Speaker 1: the brod answer because it's still the daytime. Okay, were

2641
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 1: let's see, But so what happened? So what happened when

2642
02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:34,039
Speaker 1: you heard that this versus battle between me and BBC?

2643
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:38,880
Speaker 1: Where was at um? I was literally peeking on Instagram

2644
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:42,959
Speaker 1: and I saw it peeking and I saw you running

2645
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:46,680
Speaker 1: in like a sweatsuit, and I saw you post I

2646
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:48,840
Speaker 1: saw him posting up beings just like Yo Norri, and

2647
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:51,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, see me and Beans go way

2648
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 1: back like years. We did park a lot of people

2649
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,279
Speaker 1: with jay Z together, so that was a great experience.

2650
02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:57,160
Speaker 1: He shot a video, I did the song if you

2651
02:19:57,200 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 1: want to f I used to visit that Halfwayhouse, Like

2652
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 1: that's family, so much like I hate when I have

2653
02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:09,760
Speaker 1: to because friends are family that you're not related to,

2654
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 1: and in his family that you're not even blood related to.

2655
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:15,400
Speaker 1: But like I used to visit him at the Halfway House,

2656
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:19,200
Speaker 1: and there's times that he saved my life, so I

2657
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 1: had to like kind of just like it's just like

2658
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:25,440
Speaker 1: I've never heard this when people just tell you get

2659
02:20:25,480 --> 02:20:28,320
Speaker 1: off the streets. Why he was in the streets, Dad,

2660
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 1: Hevy that used to be like Bean Easy the boy

2661
02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:37,600
Speaker 1: street Polly had to tell you to get off the streets. Well,

2662
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I had to tell what it wasn't not like no

2663
02:20:41,360 --> 02:20:44,600
Speaker 1: no running around like hanging up like I'm sad like

2664
02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,640
Speaker 1: and he had to say he basically tell my people

2665
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:49,760
Speaker 1: is just like yo, like that's dope what you did

2666
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 1: with mom, Like my people literally came home. It was

2667
02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:54,879
Speaker 1: just like I don't like what people saying behind the scenes.

2668
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,720
Speaker 1: We gotta clean you up. And I'm like, damn is

2669
02:20:56,760 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 1: that bad? And this is being saying that to you? Well,

2670
02:21:01,480 --> 02:21:04,640
Speaker 1: be like because he called me little cis. So it's

2671
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 1: just like like, sis, what did you doing? Like how

2672
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 1: you go from this to like you can't you can't

2673
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:18,280
Speaker 1: move like that. You're a queen, your royalty, you're a

2674
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: treasure in this industry, and you're a mom. Like beans

2675
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:24,320
Speaker 1: has cooked dinner for me and my kids. That nig

2676
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:27,879
Speaker 1: is a chef, Like he cooked stuff that he cooked

2677
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:30,680
Speaker 1: seafood better than the seafood because he don't even eat seafood.

2678
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:33,680
Speaker 1: So it's just like we have history. So it's just

2679
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 1: like I'm glad you mentioned nothing about music. Thank you?

2680
02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:46,640
Speaker 1: What no once? He once it's a rap, It's just

2681
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,200
Speaker 1: a record call. Sometimes I want to cry and pray

2682
02:21:49,800 --> 02:21:53,640
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not sure if you heard that. You know

2683
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, God from Jamaica state. It's not Jamaica,

2684
02:21:56,800 --> 02:22:01,280
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm just like, that's gonna be a

2685
02:22:01,360 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 1: great The reason be because your personalities, Like I love

2686
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:09,440
Speaker 1: that y'all. Don't just be acting weird like I'm just

2687
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 1: playing around. I'm just playing around, like I just try

2688
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:14,080
Speaker 1: to gas it up because at the end of the day,

2689
02:22:14,120 --> 02:22:17,080
Speaker 1: I did, you know, reach out to Swiss and him.

2690
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:19,199
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say they ignore me, because

2691
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:21,840
Speaker 1: that's not the truth. They did, you know, acknowedged me.

2692
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:24,160
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't bring up Oh, I see

2693
02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:26,560
Speaker 1: what you are doing. I see that, you know. So

2694
02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:28,440
Speaker 1: I said, I figured, you know what, let let me,

2695
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:30,320
Speaker 1: let me, let me help hype it up. You know

2696
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this could happen because at the

2697
02:22:32,280 --> 02:22:34,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, Beans is my friend, Beings just

2698
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 1: my brother. But at the time when I said your beans,

2699
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:38,640
Speaker 1: come outside, what I said, it's like come outside and

2700
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:41,440
Speaker 1: get some money, like come outside, like like like we've

2701
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:43,880
Speaker 1: been hearing about you for for or four minute. Let's

2702
02:22:43,879 --> 02:22:46,560
Speaker 1: come outside and let's work. And it doesn't matter like

2703
02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:48,240
Speaker 1: whether we do the bad or not. I want to

2704
02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:52,840
Speaker 1: do it. But at the end of the day, at

2705
02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:54,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when I hit you know,

2706
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:57,039
Speaker 1: brothers and they and they and they don't I don't

2707
02:22:57,080 --> 02:22:58,560
Speaker 1: want to say that didn't hit me back, and they

2708
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:00,960
Speaker 1: hit me back, but either one of them was like,

2709
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:04,880
Speaker 1: what's up, let's do this. I see what's happening. And

2710
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:08,880
Speaker 1: I've known I know from the you know, backside who

2711
02:23:08,959 --> 02:23:12,119
Speaker 1: they want me to battle like quiet as probably crept

2712
02:23:12,520 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 1: from what I heard. They was like, you know, a

2713
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:17,600
Speaker 1: lot of people was leading towards me with Cameron. I

2714
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:20,600
Speaker 1: don't think Cameron is gonna do it. I don't think

2715
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:25,000
Speaker 1: not because you know, I think he's just you know what,

2716
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,960
Speaker 1: I what do you want to do? So I tried this,

2717
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:30,960
Speaker 1: I really, I really really tried this. I hate Pete Crack.

2718
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I hit everybody, the young guns and you know I

2719
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: didn't hit young guns. Excuse me. I missed young guns

2720
02:23:37,240 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 1: and I hate um Bleek. And the thing is, the

2721
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:43,720
Speaker 1: thing is I don't own versus, so I can't make

2722
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:45,640
Speaker 1: it happen. But I did everything I could do to

2723
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:47,680
Speaker 1: make it happen. I did everything I could do to

2724
02:23:47,720 --> 02:23:50,600
Speaker 1: make it happen. I did everything, And that's why we

2725
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:52,880
Speaker 1: got Bees. I wanted to have Bees calling today. I

2726
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,119
Speaker 1: didn't tell him my time. I didn't tell him my time.

2727
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:57,400
Speaker 1: That's probably party part. I funked up everybody. We might

2728
02:23:57,440 --> 02:23:59,440
Speaker 1: have him here live at the show, and then we

2729
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,040
Speaker 1: might have here live at the show to promote it

2730
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:03,480
Speaker 1: some more. Because I want to go in there. I

2731
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:05,760
Speaker 1: don't want to. I wanted to. I think the culture

2732
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:09,480
Speaker 1: wants it. I think we want people des like I

2733
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:13,600
Speaker 1: love versus but now in the popularity's contest, because I

2734
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:15,440
Speaker 1: was like, who you who you want to battle? I

2735
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:17,360
Speaker 1: don't want to do like how D'Angelo did me and

2736
02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 1: some friends because I don't know if people know about

2737
02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:22,720
Speaker 1: get away with that, because everybody do you want to?

2738
02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I think that would have been lit with me versus her,

2739
02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:28,720
Speaker 1: and we would have been because because we've actually toured

2740
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:33,960
Speaker 1: together and the love is huh you wrote no, but

2741
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 1: we both work with like I work with Murder inc.

2742
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:39,119
Speaker 1: And then when we felt like she carried the torch

2743
02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:41,480
Speaker 1: now she's getting Walk of Fames like that would have

2744
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:44,560
Speaker 1: been lit. And I think of the coaraderie because we

2745
02:24:44,720 --> 02:24:48,360
Speaker 1: have history and like we've done shows together, like when

2746
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 1: I want to do it right, Okay, I think that

2747
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:55,320
Speaker 1: would have been let's do a realistic who you think

2748
02:24:55,840 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 1: you um that didn't battle yet? Who should do versus

2749
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:06,120
Speaker 1: with me? With you? Because I've wrote for a lot

2750
02:25:06,160 --> 02:25:07,800
Speaker 1: of people, So I would have to battle a nigga

2751
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 1: na just like we're missing. It's like, whoo, why can't

2752
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 1: battle dude? Yeah, like who says it has to be?

2753
02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:17,800
Speaker 1: That's a misogynistic or that's sexist to say that I

2754
02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:19,800
Speaker 1: have to battle another female to give me a female

2755
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:22,640
Speaker 1: and a guy. You think you can give me both

2756
02:25:22,760 --> 02:25:24,000
Speaker 1: that and let me take a shot for that. But

2757
02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:28,760
Speaker 1: my cocky is jay z ship. I don't know he's

2758
02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 1: not doing we shouldep R and b you and usher

2759
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 1: see I should be he would have to go against

2760
02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 1: a chrisp Bar. It's almost like when I came out,

2761
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:43,760
Speaker 1: I was doing what I did, so people came before me,

2762
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:45,560
Speaker 1: but then they were people that came after me. So

2763
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:48,600
Speaker 1: you can't battle who came after you. You feel I

2764
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:52,720
Speaker 1: was doing wrap hooks. I was literally more hip hop.

2765
02:25:54,320 --> 02:26:00,200
Speaker 1: Who honestly that would be a good batte that being

2766
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:04,040
Speaker 1: good a battle in English? Sis? So mark, but we go.

2767
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:13,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I saw people say you should do

2768
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,720
Speaker 1: a battle because it was like yeah, should do you

2769
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:18,959
Speaker 1: a battle with four y'all. I'm just like, no, my discography,

2770
02:26:19,280 --> 02:26:21,080
Speaker 1: even if you may not have heard the song, and

2771
02:26:21,160 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 1: in my fan base like don't like don't play with

2772
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:28,000
Speaker 1: me like I wrote for Janet and Teddy Roley. So

2773
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I have a song called girl Broker, like don't play

2774
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:34,640
Speaker 1: with me. I'm not one of you could do Janet Jackson.

2775
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:40,680
Speaker 1: So the song Girl I vocal produced Whitney Houston on

2776
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:47,000
Speaker 1: the song. You know what I'm saying, Like, my my

2777
02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:49,960
Speaker 1: foundation is strong. I didn't just get in like just

2778
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:53,199
Speaker 1: writing songs and then just featuring and just being around.

2779
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Like I looked at my discography one day and I

2780
02:26:55,879 --> 02:26:57,440
Speaker 1: was just like, wow, I forgot I did that, or

2781
02:26:57,480 --> 02:27:00,400
Speaker 1: people will remind you to be like sis, don't never

2782
02:27:00,520 --> 02:27:02,640
Speaker 1: forget who you are. So now that I remember, it's

2783
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:04,480
Speaker 1: not on No Cocky Ship. But it's just like I

2784
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:09,280
Speaker 1: did all this by myself, Like I had Missy be like, yo,

2785
02:27:09,640 --> 02:27:11,959
Speaker 1: go ahead. I remember standing in the boot of Whitney

2786
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Houston and she given me a Fisherman friend because I

2787
02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 1: was so nervous my throat dried up and she was like, no,

2788
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:19,400
Speaker 1: that I do that, do that? And I was like

2789
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did. I was so scared

2790
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:23,120
Speaker 1: to play it back and tell Whitney Houston. What do

2791
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 1: I remember Broker reducing Jerald LeVert and he wasn't singing

2792
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:28,120
Speaker 1: a note wrong and all Star telling me no, he

2793
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:29,360
Speaker 1: did the no wrong. I was like, I don't want

2794
02:27:29,400 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 1: to tell him, like, I know what I've done everything.

2795
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:34,480
Speaker 1: I remember working with jay Z and him telling me

2796
02:27:34,879 --> 02:27:39,760
Speaker 1: you want to go a tour, like, please don't discredit

2797
02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:43,119
Speaker 1: my backstory. Don't worry about what I was saying, you'll

2798
02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:45,160
Speaker 1: wah a lot of people up. They better be careful

2799
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:50,080
Speaker 1: because when you see Cynthia loving or because yeah, and

2800
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:51,800
Speaker 1: then I was counting. I was just like, I got

2801
02:27:51,879 --> 02:27:56,039
Speaker 1: twenty in the possibles, a couple of possibles because people

2802
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:57,280
Speaker 1: are like, oh you know one hand was like no,

2803
02:27:57,680 --> 02:28:00,840
Speaker 1: like I've done features and they are so that went

2804
02:28:01,360 --> 02:28:06,680
Speaker 1: see everything now they think it's viral. Rachel got so spancial,

2805
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,280
Speaker 1: so he probably would have to battle. He would have

2806
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:12,119
Speaker 1: to battle another guy. I used to vocal produce him.

2807
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I did work with him too. Yeah, and I remember

2808
02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:17,160
Speaker 1: he used to be cutting up in the student They

2809
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:18,600
Speaker 1: was like, no, make him saying, I'm just like he's

2810
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:21,920
Speaker 1: not gone shore. But to this day he hugged me.

2811
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 1: We did a show with Live Nation. It was the

2812
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Femine Forward Tour. He was there. He he was just

2813
02:28:27,800 --> 02:28:29,920
Speaker 1: like yo, and I interviewed him for Ready, who was

2814
02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:33,520
Speaker 1: like MO, like I survived the turn up. We survived

2815
02:28:33,640 --> 02:28:38,760
Speaker 1: the turnop. So seeing him go through, he's still in

2816
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:43,400
Speaker 1: the turnop, but he survived. He was outside and I

2817
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:45,480
Speaker 1: was around when he would go to the studio and

2818
02:28:45,959 --> 02:28:47,360
Speaker 1: be running around and be like, oh my god. I

2819
02:28:47,400 --> 02:28:50,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to be like, come get your brother. We're

2820
02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna call Mr new Land and her dad. So I've

2821
02:28:55,360 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 1: seen him go through, but I get it. He grew

2822
02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:01,800
Speaker 1: up in up. A lot of people expect so much

2823
02:29:01,879 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 1: more from you when you grow up with both parents.

2824
02:29:04,040 --> 02:29:07,240
Speaker 1: When you're get in this industry, you're literally alone and

2825
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:10,000
Speaker 1: you're finding your way. Your sisters already established, your parents

2826
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:14,160
Speaker 1: are really dedicated to making sure y'all win. You rebel.

2827
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 1: I was a rebellious one, so I understood. So when

2828
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:20,879
Speaker 1: I saw the list of things that he's accredited, I'm

2829
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:22,800
Speaker 1: just like, don't sleep. He's not one of those. He

2830
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 1: he really has everything he said he was. He's a

2831
02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:30,040
Speaker 1: go get it a lot of people didn't understand that

2832
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:31,920
Speaker 1: before was how you just run around you to know

2833
02:29:32,879 --> 02:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I was just running the rup. No, I'm not one

2834
02:29:34,879 --> 02:29:38,119
Speaker 1: of those. Please don't take away what God has blessed

2835
02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:43,640
Speaker 1: me with because tell nobody to challenge you. Honestly, I

2836
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:45,960
Speaker 1: would love to do it versus how D'Angelo did bring

2837
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:48,400
Speaker 1: people out because then people like, oh, I don't want

2838
02:29:48,440 --> 02:29:52,400
Speaker 1: to battle nobody because they go saul for sault. My

2839
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:55,200
Speaker 1: catalog is extensive. I've worked with you know what I'm saying,

2840
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:57,360
Speaker 1: So it's just like it might be not be something

2841
02:29:58,879 --> 02:30:00,440
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, or that I said, ain't gone that

2842
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 1: you didn't know that, Oh that's me, and it'd be

2843
02:30:02,320 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, I didn't know

2844
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:07,880
Speaker 1: that what you're saying on that and wifey and like

2845
02:30:07,959 --> 02:30:10,480
Speaker 1: stuff that I've done, or that it was my know

2846
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:13,640
Speaker 1: that's me singing even though that's the records. Wife will

2847
02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:19,680
Speaker 1: you be my wife? Yes? Wifey? Yeah? Or that I

2848
02:30:19,879 --> 02:30:22,080
Speaker 1: like what I did when you move up close to me.

2849
02:30:22,879 --> 02:30:24,480
Speaker 1: They didn't know I was. I did a lot of

2850
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,039
Speaker 1: background work but it was safe. But I was pregnant

2851
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the time, so I couldn't be in a video. Yeah,

2852
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:36,920
Speaker 1: that's fine. We love that you love the baby. Who's

2853
02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 1: that they was trying to they they was trying to

2854
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:44,400
Speaker 1: do that Holy morning about the morning. So we're laughing direct.

2855
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I was pushing the

2856
02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:50,600
Speaker 1: button tell you something. I can't thank you enough. I

2857
02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:52,240
Speaker 1: really I want you to know that this is your

2858
02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:56,040
Speaker 1: platform whenever you want to come back. We got the

2859
02:30:56,080 --> 02:31:05,400
Speaker 1: new and want to hear sposed that's yeah, yeah, yeah,

2860
02:31:05,440 --> 02:31:07,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, tell us about this new record. This is

2861
02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:09,959
Speaker 1: because I can finally talk about it, because like once

2862
02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:11,800
Speaker 1: we were setting it up, it was just like one thing,

2863
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I wait for the paperwork to get in. And so

2864
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:15,280
Speaker 1: once I got the paperwork and I was like, I'm

2865
02:31:15,360 --> 02:31:17,720
Speaker 1: glad I'm getting I get to talk about Shining Star

2866
02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:22,439
Speaker 1: and it's new glow Um. Yeah. Coming back into this industry,

2867
02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:24,760
Speaker 1: you have to realize the lane you created and you

2868
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:26,600
Speaker 1: have to stay in it. I'm not trying to compete

2869
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 1: with these new artists because I realized they got their

2870
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:31,640
Speaker 1: own goal and they're very popular and social media. Have

2871
02:31:31,760 --> 02:31:35,400
Speaker 1: you been thinking that, oh bitch, you washed. But I

2872
02:31:35,560 --> 02:31:38,600
Speaker 1: reached out to a lot of people. Ye know, I

2873
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:41,400
Speaker 1: got this record. First, I did Broken Heart, which we

2874
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:43,520
Speaker 1: did during the pandemic. It came out on my birthday,

2875
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:45,440
Speaker 1: but we recorded on my birthday, came out with my

2876
02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:50,640
Speaker 1: daughter's birthday. Independent, fully independent, the Faculty Music Group. This

2877
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:53,720
Speaker 1: is my business partner's label. So it was just like,

2878
02:31:53,879 --> 02:31:56,120
Speaker 1: because you have to separate the artist, I have honey Chown,

2879
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:58,920
Speaker 1: which like, I'm a loan out company. So when you

2880
02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:02,240
Speaker 1: get so when you see me, it's just like, how

2881
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:09,600
Speaker 1: you have this, that's a little more at all. It

2882
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:11,720
Speaker 1: was just like, so you have the hardest and you

2883
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:15,040
Speaker 1: even though it's independent, it means that we do everything ourselves.

2884
02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 1: So all my relationships, all my connections, now I get

2885
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:21,680
Speaker 1: to maximize. People say, I've been this game for twenty years,

2886
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:26,040
Speaker 1: never called nobody for favor. It was popping. Yeah, I

2887
02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 1: need that. So I reached out to a couple of artists, Hey,

2888
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:32,480
Speaker 1: sent you to record different records. I need you on it.

2889
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:37,280
Speaker 1: And the day t Pain reached back when we sent

2890
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:41,000
Speaker 1: him Shining Star was in March. He sent it back

2891
02:32:41,240 --> 02:32:44,119
Speaker 1: and who was the day that he announced the social media?

2892
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not know that all these

2893
02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:49,880
Speaker 1: people whatever that day was, he emailed me when he

2894
02:32:50,040 --> 02:32:53,240
Speaker 1: dared me back at midnight, So I was damned. Asleep

2895
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:55,600
Speaker 1: and he came up. He pay him me back. He

2896
02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:58,760
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, mo, I literally just

2897
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:00,680
Speaker 1: saw this message. So me they get his cap like,

2898
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:02,680
Speaker 1: oh wait, no, he did just post. I didn't know

2899
02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:04,600
Speaker 1: that the request because when they don't follow you, you

2900
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:09,320
Speaker 1: don't get to see it even though you're verified. So

2901
02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:11,800
Speaker 1: he's like, I got you. I said, a lot of

2902
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 1: people said they got medst real good. I met him

2903
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 1: like almost twenty years ago. A lot of people said

2904
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:24,520
Speaker 1: they had me that I had didn't get me. He

2905
02:33:24,680 --> 02:33:27,880
Speaker 1: had me. He sent it back and he did his

2906
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I literally called my manager, was like, T said the vocals.

2907
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:33,119
Speaker 1: I was on some DJ Kalish, like, oh my god,

2908
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:36,200
Speaker 1: you know he said the vocals. He was like, listen,

2909
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I got my record coming out. Let me get some

2910
02:33:38,320 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 1: vocal rest. And I got you. I was like, oh man,

2911
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:43,000
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna send it. He sent it the session

2912
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:46,800
Speaker 1: and everything, the clearest, whatever you need. I was like, Wow,

2913
02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:50,880
Speaker 1: people don't do that. I do that. A lot of

2914
02:33:50,920 --> 02:33:53,560
Speaker 1: people don't have that type of integrity. Speak to my management.

2915
02:33:53,640 --> 02:33:55,600
Speaker 1: That's cool. I understand that I have my people speak

2916
02:33:55,600 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 1: to your people, but they they're pussyfoot or monkey. Put

2917
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:03,720
Speaker 1: you along the way was good because put it for

2918
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:10,160
Speaker 1: this when you tipped, yeah, bullshit. You send me the

2919
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:11,840
Speaker 1: email read in front of my email right now and

2920
02:34:11,879 --> 02:34:14,360
Speaker 1: they won't send it back. He sent it back. He

2921
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:17,200
Speaker 1: did like I said earlier, he did his part so good.

2922
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:18,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shiot. I didn't even think he

2923
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:22,760
Speaker 1: was gonna do that much. We went and did my

2924
02:34:22,879 --> 02:34:25,600
Speaker 1: part over. When I say the soul is a back,

2925
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 1: it's literally better of fact, it's next week week. It's

2926
02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:37,640
Speaker 1: because we got a coded today. We gotta code it.

2927
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 1: It's up. I was literally just waiting on the artwork.

2928
02:34:40,520 --> 02:34:42,600
Speaker 1: But when fatmis Hoop sent his part, because I was like,

2929
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:45,800
Speaker 1: I need you to hype up this record, like what yeah,

2930
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:48,320
Speaker 1: because people haven't heard his voice in a while. He

2931
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:51,400
Speaker 1: had COVID. He did his part. He was like, yo, mo,

2932
02:34:51,879 --> 02:34:55,280
Speaker 1: I want his doctor seppy ship the record. Don't have

2933
02:34:57,280 --> 02:35:01,640
Speaker 1: but the power of sending stuff via email and I'm

2934
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 1: sending it back and me sending it so scooping New York.

2935
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm in Baltimore. I don't know where Tea Pain is.

2936
02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:13,680
Speaker 1: He's all over because he has his show. Plus he

2937
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:16,280
Speaker 1: was working his record with Kalani. So I sent the

2938
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:17,840
Speaker 1: record to l a to be mixed, sent it to

2939
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 1: somebody else to be mastered. So the power of being

2940
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:24,120
Speaker 1: able to push send, and I was just like, this

2941
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 1: record Shouting Star is not only to empower women, because

2942
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:32,640
Speaker 1: this is women are dominating the industry. It's also to

2943
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 1: me super woman and forever because people keep on calling

2944
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:38,959
Speaker 1: me from my own ship. I'm just like, we've I've

2945
02:35:39,040 --> 02:35:42,600
Speaker 1: commemorated that. That's twenty years old. We celebrated that. Now

2946
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 1: it's time to celebrate the new, the glow, the vibe,

2947
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,040
Speaker 1: the sound, the one that you love back then when people,

2948
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh my, I grew up to your music and my

2949
02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:53,120
Speaker 1: mother used to play. Now you're about to grow up

2950
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:55,600
Speaker 1: to this new glow. I haven't missed a beat, my

2951
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:57,960
Speaker 1: voice hasn't changed. I've been through some ship I could

2952
02:35:57,959 --> 02:35:59,920
Speaker 1: sing about it. Broken Heart was the record we really

2953
02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and that's available on all streaming platforms now all my

2954
02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:04,959
Speaker 1: first two hours based on the Truth story, and Meet

2955
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:08,000
Speaker 1: the Girl next Door finally on all streaming platforms. So

2956
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I missed twenty years of streaming. Whatever year streaming came out,

2957
02:36:11,720 --> 02:36:15,320
Speaker 1: they just added October during the pandemic, so we're running

2958
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:17,440
Speaker 1: it up. So now I'm just like now, that I

2959
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:19,800
Speaker 1: have this second chance. I'm gonna put out some new

2960
02:36:19,920 --> 02:36:23,120
Speaker 1: music and I don't have to try to sound like

2961
02:36:23,240 --> 02:36:26,400
Speaker 1: everybody today. I still have my sound, but just to

2962
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:29,080
Speaker 1: let people know, like I'm coming. What's that record you

2963
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:31,880
Speaker 1: got when you were like, um, I think it's like

2964
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,760
Speaker 1: at one point five million views? Thing's t O P

2965
02:36:35,480 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 1: and A something like that. When you're talking mom, I'm

2966
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna get you can leave. Would lead a car nigger?

2967
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:48,720
Speaker 1: All right, So that's that's independent as well. That's well,

2968
02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:51,640
Speaker 1: that was on the first album. So that's that's on

2969
02:36:51,879 --> 02:36:55,800
Speaker 1: all that was twenty years ago. God, I just so

2970
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:58,000
Speaker 1: happened to like God preserve me for the sound of

2971
02:36:58,040 --> 02:37:00,280
Speaker 1: Pandemic was good. I got a lot of rest and

2972
02:37:00,400 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 1: much needed glow. And it's just like once I realized

2973
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:06,120
Speaker 1: that people don't want to hear or see none of

2974
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 1: the other bullshit. They just want to hear you sing

2975
02:37:08,080 --> 02:37:10,480
Speaker 1: mo and they want to see me in power. Like

2976
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:14,200
Speaker 1: now I realized that had the ditties and had the

2977
02:37:14,320 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Jays and had them had they survived through. When the

2978
02:37:17,480 --> 02:37:20,240
Speaker 1: industry shifts and change, you have to put new people

2979
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:22,960
Speaker 1: in position. So I see who's hot. I see the

2980
02:37:23,080 --> 02:37:24,720
Speaker 1: artists that are coming up from the hers to the

2981
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:27,880
Speaker 1: summer walkers to the scissors. That's the that's the vibe.

2982
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:30,720
Speaker 1: My daughters love Kailani. I know who they love. So

2983
02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like reaching out like yo, no, not with her,

2984
02:37:36,480 --> 02:37:39,640
Speaker 1: but just to see but see the mutual respect and

2985
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:42,000
Speaker 1: to see how she came up and then then she's

2986
02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:44,640
Speaker 1: in position. I was just like, I respect that. And

2987
02:37:44,760 --> 02:37:48,920
Speaker 1: from the rappers from the Klos to the Malibu Mitches

2988
02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:52,360
Speaker 1: to the I got songs with them, to see I

2989
02:37:52,440 --> 02:37:55,720
Speaker 1: have more sons of rappers? Do I have it? But

2990
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:58,440
Speaker 1: I've known him since he was bird. We used to

2991
02:37:58,480 --> 02:38:00,240
Speaker 1: when used to have the cutouts and my what it

2992
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 1: was like, can I have to kind of? So I

2993
02:38:01,760 --> 02:38:03,840
Speaker 1: respect them. I respect how you're moving. But I'm a

2994
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:06,000
Speaker 1: writer too, and I'm a hardest and I'm sensitive about

2995
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:09,160
Speaker 1: my ship. So it's just like, you know, I respect

2996
02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:11,119
Speaker 1: and people just like yo, Mo, it's good to see

2997
02:38:11,160 --> 02:38:14,560
Speaker 1: you still doing your thing. So to the the young

2998
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:16,879
Speaker 1: artists that are coming up to the lottos like big

2999
02:38:16,959 --> 02:38:19,680
Speaker 1: lot of I reached out and I'm just like, yo,

3000
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:22,440
Speaker 1: like I see you doing your things. I saw, yes,

3001
02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:26,160
Speaker 1: the rappers like they are doing that. She changed the

3002
02:38:26,200 --> 02:38:28,560
Speaker 1: big lot of but it's just like to see everyone

3003
02:38:28,680 --> 02:38:32,840
Speaker 1: doing their thing. Sam A Slim got one more question? Yea,

3004
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,640
Speaker 1: now it's up, it's up, So where is the next

3005
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:41,800
Speaker 1: for a little more. We're pushing this music because we

3006
02:38:42,040 --> 02:38:43,960
Speaker 1: literally before we even got here, I got a call

3007
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:47,400
Speaker 1: about a reality show and to hear my managers say,

3008
02:38:47,480 --> 02:38:50,080
Speaker 1: they always want to dwell on the past, and people

3009
02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:55,160
Speaker 1: want to say shows they we want you to be

3010
02:38:55,240 --> 02:38:58,520
Speaker 1: on the show about heartbreaking this, but I'm past that,

3011
02:38:59,640 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 1: okay if it ain't about this new glow. Even on

3012
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:05,920
Speaker 1: two shows, I literally turned down and I'm gonna say this,

3013
02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:10,000
Speaker 1: and this is all due respect. There shows that want

3014
02:39:10,040 --> 02:39:14,560
Speaker 1: to I say, salute or gift flowers. They push their

3015
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:16,360
Speaker 1: movement and they want you to be a part of it,

3016
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:20,000
Speaker 1: but they don't want to pay. So it's one thing

3017
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:22,680
Speaker 1: to promote and the and the do sit downs. But

3018
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:25,160
Speaker 1: if you want me to perform, don't tell me what

3019
02:39:25,280 --> 02:39:27,360
Speaker 1: your prices. You didn't even ask what my price was.

3020
02:39:28,240 --> 02:39:31,280
Speaker 1: The bag is out. I saw how much rappers baby

3021
02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:33,240
Speaker 1: mothers are gett paid. You're not gonna say, oh I

3022
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:35,480
Speaker 1: got fired to what I'm gonna like? What am I

3023
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna do with that? What cost five thousand dollars to

3024
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:42,720
Speaker 1: this day. I'm not trying for a performance. You're not

3025
02:39:42,760 --> 02:39:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna offer me that which I'm not washed. You're gonna

3026
02:39:46,200 --> 02:39:49,760
Speaker 1: this is the prices that we set and you might

3027
02:39:49,760 --> 02:39:53,600
Speaker 1: as well pay it now or pay later, because trust me,

3028
02:39:54,200 --> 02:39:56,640
Speaker 1: it's about to run up. I know the game. This

3029
02:39:56,800 --> 02:40:00,200
Speaker 1: is chess, not checkers, So don't play with me. I'm

3030
02:40:00,240 --> 02:40:05,080
Speaker 1: not one of them. You're not gonna pay somebody's baby mother,

3031
02:40:05,160 --> 02:40:07,640
Speaker 1: they don't have no songs out to come there and drink.

3032
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:09,600
Speaker 1: But then asked me to come do the same thing

3033
02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:12,920
Speaker 1: in saying that's a separate feet. It was a major

3034
02:40:13,160 --> 02:40:15,040
Speaker 1: people who try to book us. It was like, we

3035
02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:16,840
Speaker 1: want you to come this this, this is okay what

3036
02:40:16,959 --> 02:40:22,520
Speaker 1: that's all the card? So that's ten thou for this? Well,

3037
02:40:22,680 --> 02:40:26,360
Speaker 1: sh bitch. As soon as I grab that microphone is up.

3038
02:40:28,879 --> 02:40:32,000
Speaker 1: I get it. But that was a test to see

3039
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:35,360
Speaker 1: if I would accept the less. No, you want greater,

3040
02:40:36,080 --> 02:40:38,320
Speaker 1: you gotta do greater. And I realized, now you gotta

3041
02:40:38,360 --> 02:40:40,760
Speaker 1: work hard now, just like I did in the beginning.

3042
02:40:40,760 --> 02:40:42,840
Speaker 1: It's like I'm a new artist, so people know the

3043
02:40:42,879 --> 02:40:45,320
Speaker 1: whole little more. But the new MO, the shining Star

3044
02:40:45,440 --> 02:40:49,760
Speaker 1: MO that's out. Now. You gotta push what you're promoting.

3045
02:40:50,560 --> 02:40:53,480
Speaker 1: You gotta respect the brand. You gotta respect the grind.

3046
02:40:53,840 --> 02:40:57,600
Speaker 1: You gotta respect my work, my work ethic. I don't.

3047
02:40:57,920 --> 02:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I just now started getting some sleep because the pandemic,

3048
02:41:00,320 --> 02:41:03,199
Speaker 1: but I haven't had no sleep in twenty years. Paul,

3049
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:06,640
Speaker 1: like you feel with Paul Bunyan slept after this and

3050
02:41:06,800 --> 02:41:09,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker grew a beard because I shaved far I got here.

3051
02:41:10,240 --> 02:41:13,720
Speaker 1: You feel me. So it's like, I'm not sleeping and

3052
02:41:13,800 --> 02:41:17,040
Speaker 1: I know what my hand calls for. Nobody's gonna play

3053
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:20,520
Speaker 1: in my face. So from the verses and have to

3054
02:41:20,560 --> 02:41:22,680
Speaker 1: be meat plus friends because I don't want to battle nobody.

3055
02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Because when you realize, damn, she did that. When I

3056
02:41:26,160 --> 02:41:28,720
Speaker 1: realized all that I've done, I've commemorated on the shows

3057
02:41:28,760 --> 02:41:30,600
Speaker 1: that I've done for free, the tours that I've been on,

3058
02:41:30,920 --> 02:41:32,720
Speaker 1: and been in the middle of the airport and be like, damn,

3059
02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:36,720
Speaker 1: I gotta get home, and motherfucker's cut you know, cut

3060
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:39,199
Speaker 1: me off in the middle. I realized I was always

3061
02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:41,840
Speaker 1: out here. I had a couple of people with me,

3062
02:41:42,440 --> 02:41:45,080
Speaker 1: But now I have a team. You're gonna respect the team.

3063
02:41:45,680 --> 02:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Javante Tavis he just went. He from Baltimore. I saw

3064
02:41:48,680 --> 02:41:50,000
Speaker 1: him grow up as a younger, and I like what

3065
02:41:50,120 --> 02:41:52,640
Speaker 1: he said. We're just like you're the team, my team,

3066
02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:55,280
Speaker 1: stay on me. They are things I do. Why would

3067
02:41:55,280 --> 02:41:58,400
Speaker 1: you do that? What's that have to do with you? Deleted?

3068
02:41:59,040 --> 02:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Somebody may have screened but deleted. That's not you. There's

3069
02:42:01,959 --> 02:42:05,080
Speaker 1: a new you. You have to reinvent yourself if you

3070
02:42:05,160 --> 02:42:07,320
Speaker 1: want to go to the next level. I reinvented myself

3071
02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:10,039
Speaker 1: and people don't respect it. That damn makes some noise

3072
02:42:10,080 --> 02:42:15,680
Speaker 1: for that. Thank you. We can't we can't think. I

3073
02:42:15,760 --> 02:42:17,160
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to close it out, but I

3074
02:42:17,200 --> 02:42:19,320
Speaker 1: got to close it out in the shot. Yes, five

3075
02:42:19,320 --> 02:42:22,200
Speaker 1: o'clock somewhere. Yeah, might as well. This is this is

3076
02:42:22,200 --> 02:42:24,280
Speaker 1: amazing because you're not much these shots calls because you

3077
02:42:24,400 --> 02:42:29,280
Speaker 1: got damn, it's fair, no expense here, drink period. You

3078
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:32,600
Speaker 1: a legend. Thank you, And at first I was afraid

3079
02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:36,600
Speaker 1: of that title because people think legend means old season. Season.

3080
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:40,879
Speaker 1: The best food in the world is when you season

3081
02:42:40,920 --> 02:42:43,440
Speaker 1: and you leave it over thenight period, purple heart. That

3082
02:42:43,560 --> 02:42:51,120
Speaker 1: season didn't been to the bullshit bees a answer. Nobody

3083
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:57,160
Speaker 1: can't get bees on the phone because we're gonna take

3084
02:42:57,200 --> 02:43:00,560
Speaker 1: some pictures, You're gonna do some drops, and then he

3085
02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:03,400
Speaker 1: might walk out of the iscabibles. You never know. Is

3086
02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:20,360
Speaker 1: that still open? Always? Yeah? Yes. Thanks for joining us

3087
02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:23,039
Speaker 1: for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly,

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02:43:23,160 --> 02:43:25,000
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