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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now,

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Speaker 2: and we had mentioned this to you. It's a branch

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Speaker 2: of the law fair campaign against Trump and doesn't touch

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Speaker 2: on Trump himself.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to get a lot less attention in

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Speaker 1: the media.

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Speaker 2: But I think it is important because once again, it's

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Speaker 2: not just the individual involved, it's not even just the principle.

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Speaker 2: It's the message that is sent as a result of

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Speaker 2: the actions being taken to everybody else, in this case,

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Speaker 2: in the legal profession. So Clay John Eastman was one

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Speaker 2: of the lawyers who was involved with the Trump November

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election dispute.

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Speaker 1: He is a.

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Speaker 2: Constitutional law scholar who had clerk for Court Justice Clarence Thomas,

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Speaker 2: and Clay can confirm for everybody that clerking for Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justice in the legal community is a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's usually a good indicator of your skill, at least

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Speaker 2: your academic skill and knowledge of the law. He also

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Speaker 2: was one of the architects of the pro Trump elector's approach,

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Speaker 2: one of the architects of it in the November twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty election now a court in California, a judge in California,

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Speaker 2: and I've got the decision here in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, state bar court. Wait, so it's a state

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Speaker 2: bar court there you go of California has found that

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Speaker 2: Eastman should be disbarred, no longer able to practice law

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Speaker 2: because of the opinions that he took and the advice

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Speaker 2: that he gave to Donald Trump about the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: There are a number of things in here, Claiver.

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Speaker 2: They get into some specifics, but they say, for example Eastman,

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Speaker 2: and remember these are not criminal charges. These are professional

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Speaker 2: conduct charges, so it's a little different. But he's charged

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Speaker 2: with one count of failing to support the constitution, two

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Speaker 2: counts of seeking to mislead at court, two counts of

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Speaker 2: moral turpitude.

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Speaker 1: Which you know that's pretty broad.

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Speaker 2: And I would just say, so you are a lawyer

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Speaker 2: I should say he is one of the eighteen that

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Speaker 2: has charged in Atlanta. But there's been no proof that

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Speaker 2: he has broken any laws. There's the allegation of law

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Speaker 2: breaking in Atlanta, which as we all know, is the

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Speaker 2: Fanny Willis case, which is an absurdity, and the whole

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Speaker 2: thing is trashed.

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Speaker 1: But just put that aside for a second.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing lawyers and judges deciding to unilaterally, unilaterally remove

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump from state ballots for president.

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Speaker 1: And get slammed nine to zero by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Why is it that they can.

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Speaker 2: Make absolutely on their face absurd, totalitarian, unconstitutional claims when

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Speaker 2: it comes to hurting Donald Trump. But if you're a

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Speaker 2: lawyer who has a theory that would advance Trump in

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Speaker 2: some capacity, not only will you face criminal charges perhaps.

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Speaker 1: But they'll destroy your ability to ever make a living

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Speaker 1: as a lawyer. Again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is something I've been arguing for years now.

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Speaker 3: Criminalizing a legal theory is a really really bad idea.

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Speaker 3: And the argument that I've been making, and I think

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Speaker 3: based on arguments. And this is why I always say,

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Speaker 3: on them, because oftentimes the entire higher purpose of opinions

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Speaker 3: court in your direction over time.

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Speaker 1: And so I have been on this buck.

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Speaker 3: If you'll remember, in particular surrounding January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think as a lawyer, it particularly bothers me.

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Speaker 1: It fires me up.

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Speaker 3: It fires me up because the argument that was made

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Speaker 3: that Mike Pens as the vice president in charge of

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Speaker 3: It likely would have been struck down by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: the fact that they changed the law to specifically reference

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Speaker 3: made it quite clear that there was a legal uncertainty

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Speaker 3: why often if you've ever had a lawyer represent you.

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Speaker 3: lay out another argument. The job of lawyers is to

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Speaker 3: or not they agree with those arguments. Juries decide facts,

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Speaker 3: Judges decide law. And so as soon as you are

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Speaker 3: away people's law license for it, to your point, you

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Speaker 3: lose nine to zero before the Supreme Court. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: that hard of a case. But that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: pretty hard to disbar people.

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Speaker 1: And it's also.

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Speaker 2: Frightening when you start to dig into it, you find

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Speaker 2: very quickly that the State Bar Association, American Bar Association,

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Speaker 2: mean this has become really standard. They have been infiltrated

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Speaker 2: become weaponized in this way. Imagine if you're a lawyer, now,

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Speaker 2: are you going to take on a Trump related issue?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to deal with that possibility that you

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Speaker 2: it's going to have really big chilling effects on what

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Speaker 2: kind of lawyers you can count.

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Speaker 1: On and where you're barred. That's the other thing that matters.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm I am right now an attorney licensed in

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Speaker 3: But I'm not worried about what people are going to

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Speaker 3: what happened to Donald Trump? With charges being brought. I'd

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Speaker 1: And anybody can make.

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Speaker 3: Complaints about legal related matters inside of jurisdictions. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's coincidental that left wing bar associations are

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Speaker 3: another example of their not being a symmetry in place.

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Speaker 3: Here's a question for you, and I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Some of you out there listening may has any red

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Speaker 1: I haven't ever seen it happen.

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Speaker 2: No, And in fact, what you can assume will happen

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just can't imagine knowing the law and

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Speaker 2: of perjury in this you know, basically sworn statement about

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Speaker 2: He did that, and remember they brought charges against him

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Speaker 2: and jury wouldn't convict him. You know, you know, you

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Speaker 2: an outrage to the system as well? I mean, it

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Speaker 2: even goes beyond the violation of Trump and in that case,

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Speaker 2: I believe it was Carter Page's civil rights. But it's

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Speaker 2: really about you can't have lawyers for the government who

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Speaker 3: And this is why one solution and I would encourage

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Speaker 3: Republicans to try to pass this bill, particularly if Republicans

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Speaker 3: and Donald Trump is the president. Democrats have recognized that

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Speaker 3: they have rigged basically forums Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Now New York. But let's focus on Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: In particular, I think if federal charges are brought against

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Speaker 3: relocate those charges to wherever your home jurisdiction is. I

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Speaker 2: Can Actually I'm sorry, just the guy I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: This is back in twenty twenty one. Was Kevin Klein Smith.

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Speaker 2: He admitted to doctoring an email to authorize a wiretap

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Speaker 2: would think, right. So he pleaded guilty because he did

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Speaker 2: take a guess, probation, Yeah, probation. You're a judge in DC.

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Speaker 2: You have a lawyer who is lying to get spying

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Speaker 2: probationary sentence is appropriate, and therefore I will impose it.

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Speaker 2: You think that if this was given what we've seen

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Speaker 2: look at look at Eastman. You think if Eastman had

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden A do you think the judge.

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Speaker 1: In DC would have given him probation? No? How much?

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Speaker 1: Not this, But this is what I mean. It's so

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Speaker 1: it's so very obvious.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say this because we're not going to

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Speaker 2: shame them with their hypocrites, because of course their hypocrites,

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Speaker 2: but we need to know how they're playing the game,

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Speaker 2: so we understand what level of response is necessary.

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Speaker 1: Just file this away. If Trump wins.

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Speaker 3: In November, all of these Democrats who spent years telling

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Speaker 3: you about direct threats to democracy, I bet a hundred

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Speaker 3: of them will vote.

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Speaker 1: Not to validate the election.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they will deny the legitimacy of Trump's ability

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Speaker 3: to take office in twenty twenty five. In January of

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Speaker 3: to refuse to validate Trump's victory if it happens.

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Speaker 2: Look at how much they use the term election denier

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Speaker 1: And they were all rewarded for it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And they try to use the government in a difference.

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Speaker 2: They just tried a coup using the FBI and the CIA.

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Speaker 3: Guys are getting you hooked up for the Sweet sixteen tonight.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. There is this uh

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Speaker 2: I would just I would just want to offer myself

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Speaker 3: There's been some people say, Hey, I wouldn't do an

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Speaker 2: There are so many other ways you don't have to

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Speaker 3: And I would say for anybody out there, if you're

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Speaker 2: We're wanting to take a moment here or a little

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Speaker 2: There's also a bill that he signed and Claire, I'm

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Speaker 2: DeSantis in Florida has seen these stories. He's like, well,

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Speaker 4: What New York does, what California does, Florida will do

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know a lot of these stories existed,

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Speaker 1: It's mine now.

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of where some of the squatters'

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Speaker 2: Can I just say your main men. The Buckster over

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Speaker 2: here kind of nailed it. I had to go back

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Speaker 2: in the memory banks, but it was yeah, Ohio River

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Speaker 2: Valley seventeen sixties, they started calling them squatters. This is

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Speaker 2: just according to the Wikipedia on this one, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: call them squatters for people who showed up and they

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Speaker 2: cleared and improved of the land but had no official

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Speaker 2: title to it. And you know, this was a big thing.

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Speaker 2: The great Davy Crockett was involved in trying to get land,

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Speaker 2: a big land bill pass that dealt with this issue.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but that's where it comes from. But somehow

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Speaker 2: that's translated to if you move into someone's house, change

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Speaker 2: the locks, and get the utilities in your name and

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Speaker 2: a Democrat precinct, you can stay for months, maybe years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, New.

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Speaker 3: York City was well settled by the time all this

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Speaker 3: is taking place, right, So I understand it for some

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Speaker 3: of the Western states. And remember, historically a state like

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Speaker 3: Michigan would be considered the West. Tennessee where I live,

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Speaker 3: would have been considered the West. It was a Western

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Speaker 3: theater during the Civil War. But it's crazy to me

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Speaker 3: that these still exist. What I do think it brings

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Speaker 3: home is no one is better. No one is better

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Speaker 3: in the country right now than recognizing a problem and

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Speaker 3: providing a solution, then Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on any

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Speaker 3: statewide level, no one.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think Greg Abbott has done a really good job

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Speaker 3: with the border in Texas, dealing with fake frankly an

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Speaker 3: intractable problem.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of actually seeing problem, addressing problem, fixing problem,

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Speaker 1: nobody's been better than DeSantis. And this Disney story, to

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Speaker 1: me is a big one.

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Speaker 3: Buck because all the left wing outlets said, oh, Disney

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Speaker 3: outsmarted DeSantis. They and this kind of gets into the

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Speaker 3: nitty gritty of a sort of administrative law they tried

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Speaker 3: to pass. Effectively, Disney did a kind of under the

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Speaker 3: radar plan right before DeSantis replaced all the people sitting

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Speaker 3: on this development group, and basically Disney just threw up

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Speaker 3: the white flag and said, you know what, we were wrong.

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Speaker 3: We're acknowledging that DeSantis had the authority to do what

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Speaker 3: he did, and now we're submitting ourselves to their authority.

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Speaker 1: It's a total win.

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Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, And I think it was the best Babalon

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Speaker 2: b had had A had one of their spoof headlines

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Speaker 2: DeSantis expelled from the Republican Party for getting too many

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Speaker 2: things done.

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Speaker 1: And then Desanta shared it, which is great.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, look, you know he's he's still showing we

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Speaker 2: need excellent governors and he's showing how to get it

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Speaker 2: done in Florida. You know, I think Governor stit Out

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma is a really excellent red state governor. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there are a number of governors who are just just

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Speaker 2: doing sensible things. You know, they do things you sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's so sensible that you have to say to yourself,

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Speaker 2: like in this case with the squatting, that wasn't already

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Speaker 2: the loss.

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Speaker 1: And it's a great point on Florida. You well know this.

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Speaker 3: It gets really hot in the summer and a lot

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Speaker 3: of people who live in Florida are not full time

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Speaker 3: Florida residents. So of all states that would be concerned

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Speaker 3: about this, you really might leave Florida for four or

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Speaker 3: five months. Same thing, by the way, when it's cold

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Speaker 3: in the winter. How's your Tennessee governor. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to get you banned from the mansion or anything, but

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't. I don't hear much

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Speaker 3: about him. I like Governor Lee. Look, I think in general.

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Speaker 3: And his term is up in twenty six, so he's

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Speaker 3: a second term guy. Marshall Blackburn's gonna win by twenty

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Speaker 3: some odd points in November. I'm not even sure who's

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Speaker 3: running against her. Bill Haggerty is super There's the two,

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Speaker 3: the state wide people, the Senator Haggerty and Senator Blackburn.

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing a good job.

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in

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Speaker 3: twenty six. There'll be a lot of people that are

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Speaker 3: putting their hats in the rings, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Because, as you well know, and you know especially relative

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Speaker 2: to previous inflows and population size, the big three beneficiaries

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Speaker 2: of red state or rather red immigration if you will,

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Speaker 2: or you know, intrastate movement are Florida, Texas, and Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: So Tennessee clearly has some good stuff going on as well,

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Speaker 2: because people are leaving New England, New York, New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: California and moving to Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I would say this what all three of those states

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Speaker 3: have in common, no state income tax, and finding out

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Speaker 3: now as a Florida resident, how much better is not

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Speaker 3: having to worry about state income tax?

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Speaker 1: Just for you and what you do now? Well, the

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Speaker 1: savings are are incredible relatives in New York City, and

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Speaker 1: just also the notion that you don't have to file

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Speaker 1: state and local income tax return. Yeah, it's way better.

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Speaker 1: It's just such a an absurd hassle.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And this is why you know the outflow unfortunately for

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Speaker 2: those states I think is just GONN is just going

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Dillar and they are providing his family with assistance

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Speaker 2: that's just you know, conversational historical. This is in the now.

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Speaker 2: They're doing things right now that Officer's family. Think about

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Speaker 2: the trauma that they are going through, think about what's

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Speaker 2: Talenta Towers is stepping in using your dollars to help

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Speaker 2: Officer Diller's family. And that just happened a few days ago.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 3: Walk back in, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show a bunch

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Speaker 3: of you with feedback so far on the show. Buck's

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Speaker 3: going to hit some on email. I will take some

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Speaker 3: of your calls here, Tom and Tampa. What you got

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Speaker 3: for us?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jack, what you're saying, Clay about governor to say,

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Speaker 5: I spotting a problem and then dealing with the problem.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm a Flora Home thirty six years tax

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Speaker 5: Bank resident. I can tell you categorically, Ryan the Sanda's

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Speaker 5: greatest governor we ever had here for the reason you're

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Speaker 5: talking about. And here's a specific example. Hurricane Ian takes

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Speaker 5: out the Santa Beell Island Bridge. Everyone in the media

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Speaker 5: down here was saying, ch and much and much years

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Speaker 5: before that bridge gets rebuilt. All right, went and he

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Speaker 5: told the National Guard, he told the contractors, you guys

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Speaker 5: don't get it. We're gonna pay escalator amounts. You guys

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Speaker 5: are gonna get that thing rebuilt. And that thing was

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Speaker 5: up by believe in about two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Right, it was open.

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Speaker 5: Now you go over to Chesapeake Island pay that bridge

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Speaker 5: the Feds. I will bet you guys dinner down here

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Speaker 5: at Burns. The Feds won't have that thing rebuilt in

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Speaker 5: a year, and I'll pay up if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Bridget Baltimore, thank me for the call. That take

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Speaker 3: like ten years. It's gonna ill agree with that all.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take way more time. And oh gosh,

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Speaker 3: I mean the budget and everything they're gonna have with that. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm just glad we all know Trump Trump is the

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Speaker 3: nominee and the Republican parties united behind Trump, and so

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Speaker 3: everybody can go back to admitting that Ron De Santis

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Speaker 3: is a fantastic governor.

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Speaker 1: Yay, look at that.

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Speaker 2: We don't no one has to feel like they don't

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Speaker 2: like him just because he's you know, challenging the king.

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Speaker 2: He can go back to being the Prince of Florida

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Speaker 2: and doing a very good job at it.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Joe in New York City, you got a squatter story

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon, gentleman, Buck. I'm a fellow Jesuit alump fordem Prep.

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Speaker 1: Oh Fordham, very nice, very nice.

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Speaker 2: You guys used to throw us around the sports fields

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Speaker 2: a little bit, but we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Fordham boys.

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Speaker 4: Well, you and I both.

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Speaker 6: Escaped to jesuits. I'll say that I enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here's the story. I have a relative who moved

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Speaker 6: in with another relative. An elderly person just kind of

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Speaker 6: started crashing there. The elderly relative part wasn't even aware. Really,

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Speaker 6: after thirty days, we couldn't get the person out. I

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Speaker 6: went to a lawyer. The lawyer says, no, you got

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Speaker 6: to go through the courts. And this happens a lot.

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Speaker 6: I have a basement apartment. I will not rent it

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Speaker 6: because I'm in New York and I'm afraid once thirty

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Speaker 6: days comes, the person will stop paying rent. And for

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Speaker 6: two years I'm out rent and I have somebody living

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Speaker 6: in my house.

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Speaker 1: This has happened to people that I know.

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Speaker 2: I have a friend of the roommates, a friend of

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Speaker 2: the family, and Queen's has a base, has a home

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Speaker 2: and she rents, and you know, basement apartment makes it

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Speaker 2: sound like no, it's like a ground level because they're

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Speaker 2: stairs up to what's kind of the first floor of

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Speaker 2: the rest of the house, so it's a ground level apartment,

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Speaker 2: but we call it a basement apartment. And he just

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Speaker 2: stopped paying, just stop paying. It took like a year

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Speaker 2: to get rid of the guy. And you know, and

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Speaker 2: now you're seeing thousands of dollars in the oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean that that probably cost this friend

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Speaker 2: of the family, I don't know, thirty forty grand the

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Speaker 2: whole thing easily. And and it's, uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: really easy to do if you to to the point

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Speaker 2: the callers making clay, if you just decide to go rogue.

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Speaker 2: And I shouldn't even say that because you're you're totally

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Speaker 2: within your rights.

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Speaker 1: But legally you're.

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Speaker 2: Going rogue if you change the locks, if you turn

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Speaker 2: off the heat or hot water. You generally pay triple

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Speaker 2: the rent in damages for every day.

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Speaker 1: So you changed up.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, if the rent is two thousand dollars a month,

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Speaker 2: you change for thirty days. That person you know doesn't

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Speaker 2: have heat and hot water, and they go to a court,

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Speaker 2: even if they're a squatter paying no rent, you're writing

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Speaker 2: them a check for six grand.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't understand how the waw ever got

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Speaker 3: this way in some of these things. It's insane, right,

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Speaker 3: It's insane. Makes you not want to be a renter

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Speaker 3: at all. I mean renting two people, Jeane and Ohio.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Gene, what you got.

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Speaker 7: This call is for Clay. I heard you talking yesterday

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00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 7: about your kidney stone, and my husband has had many

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Speaker 7: of them, and he finally got said to a you're

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Speaker 7: and he was told to give up caffeine and calcium.

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Speaker 7: Now we still he drinks caf DCLF coffee or dcaf tea,

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Speaker 7: but he has not given up chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I should give up. I

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Speaker 1: should give up chocolate.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I would lose ten pounds if I just stopped

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Speaker 2: eating chocolate over the course of like six months. I

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Speaker 2: love chocolate, though, Clay, and I can't give up caffeine.

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Speaker 2: It's my only vice. Oh fuck, I will tell you

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Speaker 2: the enough. Thanks for everybody loves talking out about these

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Speaker 2: kidney stones. If you have ever had a kidney stone, it's.

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Speaker 3: Like you're in a awful fraternity that you never wanted

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Speaker 3: to be a member of. But the amount of pain

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Speaker 3: you said your dad had him, I was gonna say

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Speaker 3: next time you see Papa Speed, You got to give

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Speaker 3: him a hug and be like kidney Stone fraternity man.

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Speaker 1: It's brutal. It's brutal, oh, I mean it is.

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Speaker 3: The pain from kidney stones is unlike anything I've ever

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Speaker 3: experienced before. And to the point the caller made, I

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Speaker 3: would give up anything if you told me I'd never

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Speaker 3: get another.

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Speaker 1: Worse than a Vall's loss. Yes, even worse