Speaker 1: Man, I couldn't wait for this one. I couldn't wait
Speaker 1: for this one. Ladies and gentlemen. He is my next guest.
Speaker 1: He is a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award winner. He is
Speaker 1: a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: recipient of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, a
Speaker 1: founding member, the founding member of the iconic group, the
Speaker 1: greatest group ever as far as I'm constererned public anime,
Speaker 1: all right, the one and only Flavor Flamen.
Speaker 2: What somebody how you doing? Many man? Like a Colton
Speaker 2: the closet hanging in there, baby. I have ever had
Speaker 2: the pleasure of meeting you.
Speaker 1: Men. It is an honor, brother, It's been a I
Speaker 1: met you on several occasions, but I've never ever interviewed you.
Speaker 1: I gotta know this. They they Flavor Flame. I mean,
Speaker 1: who the hell came up with that name? I mean,
Speaker 1: who would think of that name?
Speaker 2: It had to be you?
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, you know, back in the day, there was
Speaker 3: a guy that used to watch over me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. His name was Kevin Starks.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And way back in the day, you know, I used
Speaker 3: to you know, drink a lot of different flavored sodas,
Speaker 3: you know, the fruit punch, orange grape, you know, everything, right,
Speaker 3: cherry and all that. And then also, you know, I
Speaker 3: like life savers, you know, eat a bunch of life savers,
Speaker 3: you know, and the charms, lollipops and all of that.
Speaker 2: And my nickname that I grew up with is Rico.
Speaker 2: Oh so he used to call me Reek the flavor freak. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when MC and first came around, Stephen, back in
Speaker 3: the days, you know what I'm saying, and everybody had
Speaker 3: these common names, I wanted the name that nobody had,
Speaker 3: nobody else wanted, but yet it had to mean something.
Speaker 3: So I tried MC flavor and you know what, I
Speaker 3: stuck with that, and it was Chuck D that started
Speaker 3: calling me flavor Flavor.
Speaker 2: So Chuck D started calling you flavor, Flavor Flavor.
Speaker 3: Cause back in the days, remember we used to be
Speaker 3: like Yo, Bobby Bob, Yo, Johnny John.
Speaker 2: You know, it was Chuck that started calling me Flavor flav.
Speaker 1: So you started the rap group Public Enemy. You founded
Speaker 1: this group. Tell me how that came about. I've never
Speaker 1: heard this story.
Speaker 3: Well, it's all started about you know. All started when
Speaker 3: I was on my way up to the studio to
Speaker 3: go visit with my boy Chuck and Hank and Keith Shockley.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We had the studio and and and in Hempstead, Long Island,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: And I walked up.
Speaker 3: I walked up to the studio one day, Steve stephen
Speaker 3: Man and I heard.
Speaker 2: Wow. I'm like, what in the world is Chuck doing
Speaker 2: up in here? Man?
Speaker 3: I walked in the I walked in the studio Stephen Chuck.
Speaker 3: Back in the days, Remember we had the cassette tapes. Yep,
Speaker 3: my boy Chuck d had had the cassette tape coming
Speaker 3: out of the cassette deck around the microphone stand back
Speaker 3: into the cassette deck. Wow, ladies and gentlemen. I don't
Speaker 3: care what nobody said. That was the first loop. It
Speaker 3: was back in the days. We used to make records
Speaker 3: with loops and stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so.
Speaker 3: I told Chuck the story about this guy that wanted
Speaker 3: to battle him.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. In the hall now, I
Speaker 2: was on my way up to the studio. Somebody wanted
Speaker 2: to battle, and.
Speaker 3: Somebody wanted to battle Chuck, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Yo, Chuck, don't battle. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If anything will set you up for battle.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, but your man swear he nice.
Speaker 3: I said, look, he don't swear. He nice, bro, he
Speaker 3: knows he nice. So anyway, Chuck was like, Yo, put
Speaker 3: that story on the beginning of this tape because we
Speaker 3: were making the making the tape WBAU ninety point three FM,
Speaker 3: you know our radio, our radio station right from Delphi University.
Speaker 3: So so when I got on the mic and I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Yo, Chuck, bu's the move.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I was on my way up here to the studio
Speaker 3: and this brother stopped me and asked me, Yo, what's
Speaker 3: up with the brother Chucky?
Speaker 2: Did he swear he nice? I said, the brother don't swear.
Speaker 2: He nice.
Speaker 3: He knows he's nice. You know what I'm saying. So, Chuck,
Speaker 3: I got a feeling you turned into a public enemy.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Now remember that line he was kicking me on the
Speaker 3: way out to l A. Longton Queen's while we was
Speaker 3: in the carn away to the shop. Well, right now,
Speaker 3: kick the base for them brothers and let him know, Chuck,
Speaker 3: what goes on, Chuck says, what goes on? Well, I'm
Speaker 3: all in and put it on the board. Another shot
Speaker 3: down from the mouth that wrought like yo, yo, we
Speaker 3: gotta put this out, We gotta put this out.
Speaker 2: So so we put it out.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying on our radio station and
Speaker 3: everything and DMC, I mean run running jam Master Jay
Speaker 3: and them went.
Speaker 2: Crazy over it. So was jam Master J.
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with him. I grew up
Speaker 1: with the College Queen. My late brother. My late brother,
Speaker 1: My brother died in a car accident in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: He was really really good friends with jam Master J.
Speaker 1: I grew up on two third between one eleventh and twelfth,
Speaker 1: and jam Aster J was on the next block between
Speaker 1: one one eleventh and Hollis.
Speaker 2: So that's where it was. So jam Master Jay.
Speaker 1: And now when my brother passed away in the car accident,
Speaker 1: I was the one that let him know because he
Speaker 1: was away on tour run DMC ANDN was away on
Speaker 1: tour and they came back and he came looking for
Speaker 1: my brother, and I had to let him know what
Speaker 1: had happened.
Speaker 4: He didn't even know that my brother had passed away.
Speaker 2: That's how far back.
Speaker 1: I went with jam Aster Jay and run DMC obviously
Speaker 1: was in the neighborhood and the whole, No doubt.
Speaker 2: That's that's how that's how far back it goes, no doubt.
Speaker 4: So go ahead.
Speaker 3: What was jam Master J came up to the to
Speaker 3: the radio station. He was like, Yo, where's your boy,
Speaker 3: Chuck Man? Where's Chuck? We want to see Chuck. I said,
Speaker 3: Chuck is at the studio. So I got in this
Speaker 3: in the car with jam Master J and DM. See right,
Speaker 3: We went to took him to the studio and jim
Speaker 3: Master Jay is the one that was trying to talk
Speaker 3: Chuck into putting public Enemy number one out.
Speaker 2: On Depth Jam.
Speaker 3: At the time, you know, Depth Jam didn't really have
Speaker 3: a lot of money then and everything, so artists wasn't
Speaker 3: really getting their fair shape around that time. But when
Speaker 3: the Beasties went platinum, Run went platinum, LLLL went platinum,
Speaker 3: now they had enough money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And Chuck said, you know what, Okay, come on, I'm down,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we went to the
Speaker 3: We went to Death Jam and everything to sign and
Speaker 3: the whole nine. Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons. They did
Speaker 3: not want me. They only wanted Chuck.
Speaker 4: They didn't want you. They didn't want me.
Speaker 3: Because back in the days, you know, the voice texture,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I mean, the style was that.
Speaker 2: Wonder help I keep it.
Speaker 3: Was that that basic that basic voice, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But my voice was real high, it was peaky,
Speaker 3: it was annoying and the whole nine.
Speaker 2: So they didn't want me.
Speaker 3: So Chuck was like, yo, listen, if he's not if
Speaker 3: I don't have him, then this ain't gonna work.
Speaker 2: So it was Chuck D that forced me down death
Speaker 2: jam Stoke. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How do you when you when you think about Chuck
Speaker 1: D and him taking that position and risking jump starting
Speaker 1: what obviously an undeniably was a flourishing career. His willingness
Speaker 1: to stick with you, why do you think that was?
Speaker 1: Why did he do that?
Speaker 3: But his willingness to stick with me because we were
Speaker 3: a team. You know, teamwork make the dream work, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it was just that
Speaker 3: kind of person.
Speaker 2: We made a hell of a team, no question, he
Speaker 2: made the hell of a team.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I mean, if it ain't broken,
Speaker 3: you don't fix it.
Speaker 2: Chuck D.
Speaker 1: I saw an interview with him one time years ago.
Speaker 1: He called you the greatest hype man in music history.
Speaker 1: He said, you want to turn a show out, you
Speaker 1: want to get an audious hyped up. He said, you
Speaker 1: don't need anything but flavor flame. There is no nobody
Speaker 1: has ever ever been better than him. First of all,
Speaker 1: do you agree with that? And secondly, how does it
Speaker 1: make you feel to hear that Chuck D said that
Speaker 1: about you?
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I know that I am the originator,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, the first hype man in
Speaker 3: rap music period, you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 3: and my job was just to go out there on
Speaker 3: the stage really just get the crowd hype.
Speaker 2: That was my job to get the crowd hype.
Speaker 3: And I was always good with hyping up the crowd,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So so so that's how
Speaker 3: I got that title. You know what I'm saying. I say,
Speaker 3: the second flavor flame of the business was my boy
Speaker 3: Push a Week Billy from the Ghetto Boys. Because everything
Speaker 3: Bill did was flavor flav everything. You know what I
Speaker 3: give you for man, so he did. Man, Man, that
Speaker 3: was my little brother man. That was my brother man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The third flavor flavor of
Speaker 3: the business, I say, Buster Rhymes.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was.
Speaker 4: Gonna say DMX.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say DNX. Wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 2: wait wait, what's the hype man? But d MX?
Speaker 3: But but but d MX was a solo He was
Speaker 3: a solo artist.
Speaker 2: But we're talking about you know, group wise, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And Buster Rhymes came from leaders of the New School,
Speaker 3: so he was like the hype man of the leaders
Speaker 3: of the New School.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Then the fourth flavor flavor of the business, I say,
Speaker 3: was my cousin O d B.
Speaker 4: Damn?
Speaker 2: How many how many? How many layers of the flavor flavors?
Speaker 2: Did Damn? You just gave me five?
Speaker 4: Five?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's listening, you know what I'm saying. Number four was
Speaker 3: O d B from Wu Tang List. Number five Spliff
Speaker 3: Star from Flip Mode. Okay, and he's still with Buster
Speaker 3: right now, Tan up stuff. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Special, So when you think about a hype man, and
Speaker 1: you know, we know the job that comes with it. Whatever,
Speaker 1: people would have looked at you and say, that's all
Speaker 1: you are? What would you describe yourself as being?
Speaker 2: Is it just that?
Speaker 4: Or was it so much more than that?
Speaker 1: And people never really really appreciated what you brought to
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: Well, I consider me that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And plus I was a whole lot more. I was
Speaker 3: a leader. I was a trendsetter. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because I set trends. You know what I'm saying around
Speaker 3: your not for I'm trying to tell you now. And
Speaker 3: not only that, but you know, I'm the one that
Speaker 3: put out to say back in the day the high
Speaker 3: top fade, that's flame year in the high top fade
Speaker 3: was flaved, you know what I'm saying. Then Kid and
Speaker 3: Play came with his you know, play from Kidding Play.
Speaker 3: The reason why his hair was so high is because
Speaker 3: we were in competition and he said, Flave when I
Speaker 3: passed you, I'm never gonna let you catch me.
Speaker 2: So that's why his was so high, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the first ones that had a fade the low
Speaker 3: top fade was Grace Jones and Larry Blackman.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, the whole nine. I just
Speaker 2: took it and I grew mind high and then I
Speaker 2: put that out in the street.
Speaker 3: Then everybody start taking my hairstot cutting it into the gumbies.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had the gumby?
Speaker 4: No? I have, not, not me, not me.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta ask you this, man, because growing
Speaker 1: up listening to Public Enemy, man, I the lyrics was
Speaker 1: what moved me, you know what I'm saying. And they
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't care. Fight the Power is my all
Speaker 1: time favorite. I still listen to give it up every morning.
Speaker 1: That now, No, now I do that, you know. So
Speaker 1: now one one is a joke. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. I'm just wondering, first
Speaker 1: of all, what's your favorite song of all time by
Speaker 1: Public Enemy?
Speaker 2: Public Enemy number one?
Speaker 3: Because because that's the first record that we ever made,
Speaker 3: and that's the one that I had most fun making,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I had a lot
Speaker 3: of involvement, you know, with making that record, you know,
Speaker 3: but it was our first regular, our first single, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And yeah, that's my favorite one
Speaker 3: out of all of them, out of everything that we've
Speaker 3: ever made.
Speaker 4: What do you believe was the most impactful? Which song?
Speaker 2: I'd say, fight the Power?
Speaker 3: Fight the power definitely, and Fight the Power is also
Speaker 3: the song that launched us into the Rock and roll
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: When you think about that, we know what that stand for.
Speaker 2: We know that was all about.
Speaker 1: You were speaking against the man, speaking against the systems,
Speaker 1: speaking against oppression in the eyes of a lot of
Speaker 1: black people. That's how we absorbed and that's why we
Speaker 1: admired and loved y'all so much. And I love the
Speaker 1: title public enemy because it wassonified that mentality. That's why
Speaker 1: I love Chuck D so much, because Chuck D was
Speaker 1: like the data enemy whoever they are, and here we
Speaker 1: come because we know y'all don't think this of us.
Speaker 1: We know y'all trying to hold us back, and you
Speaker 1: were calling it out with song after song after song.
Speaker 1: Did you ever worry that the public at large would
Speaker 1: come against you, just the same way they went against NWA.
Speaker 1: It's the same way they went against other music groups
Speaker 1: in the past. Did you ever fear that you would
Speaker 1: be a target because you were public enemy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: We never feared anything, and that's the reason why we
Speaker 3: did what we did, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 3: we wanted to.
Speaker 2: You know, we were to see an end of the streets,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: In the Hall nine and not only that, but public
Speaker 3: Enemy also you know, stands for the black man being
Speaker 3: the lowest on the totem pole, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: And that's the last to get the to get the
Speaker 3: best of the best, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The whole nine.
Speaker 3: We wasn't scared to speak about that. And not only that,
Speaker 3: but we never feared any period. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, whatever we did, it came from our heart,
Speaker 3: It came from our souls, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: There was a time when we did a gig down
Speaker 3: in South Carolina and we were the only group ever
Speaker 3: to hang a koul Klux Klansmen on stage.
Speaker 2: And that was the time.
Speaker 3: There was a time when when when when we did
Speaker 3: that show down in South Carolina, we hung that kul
Speaker 3: Klux Klansmen on stage. Yeah, the f Oi had to
Speaker 3: come and walk us out, Yeah Fu. The Bisulam had
Speaker 3: to come and walk.
Speaker 1: They had to come and walk out. You had to
Speaker 1: come walk all what was gonna happen to y'all.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, KKK's man was they was they was
Speaker 3: piling up, They were waiting outside.
Speaker 2: They was waiting and wasn't going to let us out.
Speaker 3: That's right. They wasn't gonna let us out. But we
Speaker 3: got out. You got out because FOI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, FOI helped us get out. Yeah. But we
Speaker 2: never feared it though. You didn't fear the kukluks playing
Speaker 2: waiting outside for you.
Speaker 3: No, we never fared anyone period. We don't fear nobody.
Speaker 3: The only only thing we made fear in this world
Speaker 3: was God.
Speaker 1: Was that a conversation that y'all had amongst one another
Speaker 1: in terms of not having that fear or was it
Speaker 1: innate and immediately understood? Yo, you're a part of this
Speaker 1: is the kind of this is the kind of metal
Speaker 1: that you got to.
Speaker 2: It was already understood. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Stamped, stamp, that's how that's how we was, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And when we and when we came,
Speaker 3: we let you know we was coming strong. Don't get
Speaker 3: in our way because so you announced it before he
Speaker 3: will run you over. So you announced it beforehand.
Speaker 2: Everybody knew it. He was very transparent. They knew what
Speaker 2: it was coming. That's right.
Speaker 1: You brought up South Carolina. Any place else in this
Speaker 1: country that stands out in terms of locale where you
Speaker 1: performed and you had to worry about just South Carolina?
Speaker 2: Just that, just that one incident right there. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: every place else, cool thing else was cooler than four
Speaker 2: blocks of ice Q. And why do you think that was? That?
Speaker 2: It was cool everywhere else?
Speaker 3: Because everybody was understanding what you know, we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Not only that, but a lot of people were standing
Speaker 3: up for what we were talking about, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And right now to this day, you know,
Speaker 3: when it comes down to understanding public enemy, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Right now, we have a more predominantly
Speaker 3: white audience than a black audience.
Speaker 2: And why do you think that is? How do you
Speaker 2: explain that? Right?
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people that love, love, learning
Speaker 3: about black history, and once they find out, you know,
Speaker 3: the truth about black history, then they get into it.
Speaker 2: More and more and more and more.
Speaker 1: But but is this just something that I said about
Speaker 1: white people wanting more to know more about black history
Speaker 1: than black people.
Speaker 3: I think black people should really want to know their
Speaker 3: history just as much as the white people want to
Speaker 3: know our history.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking that question in terms of to me,
Speaker 1: the fan base shouldn't be stronger amongst whites than black
Speaker 1: it's a public enemy. It shouldn't be more more white
Speaker 1: people than black people support y'all.
Speaker 3: But it is, though, even to this day, even to
Speaker 3: this day, but we still have our black nation supporting us. Now,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, It's just that white people
Speaker 3: decided to dig into us, bore, I guess.
Speaker 1: Let me transition. Let me transition to what's going on today.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the hip hop industry today?
Speaker 2: Yo? Man?
Speaker 3: The hip hop industry is what it is. I call
Speaker 3: it changing of the guards, Steve. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean music has changed a lot. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying since since we since since we
Speaker 3: since we started. You feel what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a different generation now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You're okay with it?
Speaker 3: Or you are you depressed by Hey? I'm not depressed
Speaker 3: by anything. Man. I'm adapting to it, just like everybody
Speaker 3: else adapted.
Speaker 2: To my music and to what we do.
Speaker 3: Hey, when the guards changed, you gotta you gotta adapt
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: Do you care about the message or lack thereof or
Speaker 1: absence thereof? Like for example, y'all spoke with a purpose.
Speaker 1: Every lyric you dropped it was a purpose with Chuck
Speaker 1: D and the crew. Right, Well, look n to me
Speaker 1: be talking about here, that's entirely different than somebody that
Speaker 1: really ain't got a message.
Speaker 2: That's just pew and some shit.
Speaker 3: I just wish that a lot of rap rap records
Speaker 3: today have more messages, that's what we're talking about, and
Speaker 3: conscience messages to it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know the day, I mean, we're more about glorifying
Speaker 3: you know, guns, drugs, gangs. You know what I'm saying. Women,
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. In the whole night, Back
Speaker 3: in the day, it wasn't like that, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And not only that, but back in the
Speaker 3: days when you had a rap battle, rap battling was fun, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's not fun today, you know? And why is it?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, i mean put it this way, Okay,
Speaker 3: everybody loves a rap battle, now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Because look, battling it makes you step your penmanship, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. In the Whole Night, and
Speaker 3: back in the days when we did it, it was fun.
Speaker 3: It wasn't never about I'm going to kill you. Well
Speaker 3: on my I got a bullet with your name.
Speaker 1: It was always about embarrassed yea, it was always yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: It's always about sticking up for your neighborhood and making
Speaker 1: your neighborhood shine.
Speaker 2: Right. You know what I'm saying. I wish it was
Speaker 2: more of that. I wish it. I wish you can
Speaker 2: go back to that.
Speaker 1: How you feel about the whole Kendrick Lamar Drake uh
Speaker 1: situation that unfolded.
Speaker 3: Hey, I apployed both of them because I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of both of them, and I love them both equally,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And they both are trend setters.
Speaker 3: They both are trend setters, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: in the whole nine.
Speaker 2: And and I.
Speaker 3: Feel that their rap battle really brought some awareness to
Speaker 3: to rap music today, you know, and the youngsters can
Speaker 3: understand what the rat battle is all about.
Speaker 2: You know what these boys did, they think man Kendrick
Speaker 2: did his thing Kendrick did his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the same about Drake. I think
Speaker 1: Drake lost this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah you think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, And here's
Speaker 3: my whole point.
Speaker 2: Let's I loved it and I loved Drake. Drake is
Speaker 2: a big time talent, the whole bit.
Speaker 1: And now I will say this. I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: right front of you. You correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I got on Drake. I didn't get on Drake because
Speaker 1: he you know, Kendrick got on not like us. What
Speaker 1: I got on him about is I know you were
Speaker 1: it was the record companies you were sewing. But what
Speaker 1: I was saying was in hip hop, Nah, you go
Speaker 1: to the studio and you want up that cat with
Speaker 1: your own record, or you bow down and concede.
Speaker 2: He got you right, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: And proposed to going to lawyers and trying to sue
Speaker 1: record companies to make sure the record don't get played,
Speaker 1: that was my issue and now you have a problem
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: And that's why I wish that you know music, rap
Speaker 3: music can return back to what it used to be fun, right,
Speaker 3: because going through going through lawyers, getting lawyers, it's all
Speaker 3: of this and doing it. It's not fun, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, It's just another animal.
Speaker 1: I want to get into a serious subject before I
Speaker 1: let you get on out of here. Man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Man, thank you so much, No doubt you
Speaker 1: and Chuck d recently visited black families displaced by the
Speaker 1: Altadina Alta Dina eating wildfires in California and started something
Speaker 1: called the Displaced Black Families Go funded Me directory. Tell
Speaker 1: me about it?
Speaker 3: Well, well, let's go fundme that we created, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We partnered it up with the Black
Speaker 3: Music Action Coalition, you know what I'm saying. And this is,
Speaker 3: you know, to give back to a lot of black
Speaker 3: families that wasn't really being taken care.
Speaker 2: Of after the fires.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of black families lost their stuff
Speaker 3: and they wasn't really getting it just doe. So we
Speaker 3: created that go fund me to help them out.
Speaker 4: What was it like for you to go out there
Speaker 4: and visit those folks and see not only what they
Speaker 4: were what they were going through emotionally, but to see
Speaker 4: the wreckage, to see the actual damage.
Speaker 3: That it was real sad man, to see what I saw.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and it reminded me of
Speaker 3: when Katrina hit New Orleans. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because for miles and miles and miles you have, it's
Speaker 3: deserted land. You know what I'm saying, deserted land out there?
Speaker 3: You got deserted land. Everything is burnt down. The only
Speaker 3: thing that's standing out of the ground is chimneys, but
Speaker 3: everything else is going.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, I felt bad for these people. Man, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I wouldn't wish that on no one,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But that's why we're in
Speaker 3: this l A strong shirt. I'm standing strong for LA.
Speaker 4: While you got the Lakers there and not the Lakers
Speaker 4: in the click.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, can I tell you why? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's Magic Johnson's come but he got it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Come on magic anywhere anyway, anyway, anyway, you're gonna go
Speaker 5: to some basketball games and in their future gonna go
Speaker 5: out there to watch the Lakers playing out that it
Speaker 5: got Luca Dungeon.
Speaker 2: I sure do.
Speaker 3: I mean, Lebron is my favorite basketball player. Favorite, he's
Speaker 3: my favorite you mean president of all time?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 4: Ok?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just right now, okay, who's my favorite
Speaker 2: of all time? Michael Jordan? You know that Michael Jordan's
Speaker 2: he ain't even brought it. We ain't even so Who's
Speaker 2: who's the goat? Doctor Julia Survey? Stop that? What do?
Speaker 4: Stop that?
Speaker 2: Are you KidSing? Flavoro? Check that out? Check your stoping man,
Speaker 2: check your out.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's and a whole bunch of other people in
Speaker 3: basketball right now, got that man style.
Speaker 2: That man brought the style to basketball. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So you you you.
Speaker 1: Any of the originators, have plenty of originators, but that
Speaker 1: don't mean they can't be one up. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they can't be taken to another life. Now you was
Speaker 1: doctor j play, He wasn't Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: He's pheno. No, No, he made house calls. No, there's
Speaker 2: only one Michael Jordan. That's right, there's only one Michael Jordan, period.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I ain't gonna go ahid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the goat. He's the goat. He's the goat.
Speaker 3: But the reason why I called doctor j the gold
Speaker 3: is because Michael Jordan got his style from doctor j.
Speaker 1: Fine, I'm just saying. So I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: The greatest is only gonna get their style from the greatest.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you could be the originator, but that
Speaker 1: don't make you the go because there were things that
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan did that doctor j couldn't do as.
Speaker 3: Great as doctor Jambar, right right, he Hey, let me
Speaker 3: tell you something. When Michael Jordan took that style, he
Speaker 3: developed it into his okay, all right, and he put
Speaker 3: off a bunch more to it and he added on
Speaker 3: on to it.
Speaker 1: So just understand that, I mean, you almost lost me, right,
Speaker 1: you almost lost men lose you, man, Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I can't even put doctor Ja over Lebron. Huh.
Speaker 2: I can't put doctor Jay over Lebron. No, I can't either.
Speaker 2: This is different, This is a different day in a
Speaker 2: different time.
Speaker 3: But you gotta remember the Kobe Bryant, Lebron James.
Speaker 2: All of them, all of them. Man, got that doctor
Speaker 2: Julius Irving style.
Speaker 1: Doctor j got it from Connie Hawky, okay, and it
Speaker 1: was a David Tocter before ever after Connie Hawk I mean,
Speaker 1: you understand, did we call Donnie CONNYE.
Speaker 2: Hawk is the greatest. Connie Hawkins was the man. Vince
Speaker 2: Carter the greatest ind game duncle of all time.
Speaker 1: Do we call him to go no, because we understand
Speaker 1: this levels to this.
Speaker 2: It's Michael Jordan and there's everybody else. I ain't mad
Speaker 2: at you. You understand. I'm not mad at you. Want to
Speaker 2: I believe in you. I'm not mad. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: I had to reach I couldn't let you walk out
Speaker 1: of here play like that.
Speaker 2: Hey, Yo, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 3: Man. You just don't know how proud of you that
Speaker 3: I am. You know what I'm saying. How you just
Speaker 3: made your own lane.
Speaker 2: Bro. You made your own lane. Man. You came into
Speaker 2: this announcement game man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, This personality that you got, Bro, listen, man,
Speaker 3: it takes over. It takes over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And you built your own lane. Ain't no other sports
Speaker 3: announcer out there like Stephen A.
Speaker 2: Smith, none, none.
Speaker 1: I love you, Bro, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Just like me, I created a lane for yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: and there's never been another.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying somebody came along and it clipped.
Speaker 2: Play for play. You understand that's never been enough. Never.
Speaker 2: I don't care who it.
Speaker 1: Is, even though they did tell me Jay Z and
Speaker 1: them DMX bro that brother was GM man.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yo, he was very hypened. That was my boy man.
Speaker 1: You imagine seeing you and DMX together, Good Lord of Mercy,
Speaker 1: that would have been spectaculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Flavor flavor, Ladies and gentlemen, the honor was all mine,
Speaker 1: stephen Ah Smith.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentleman, and the honor is all mine.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: H