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Speaker 1: I do think a big reason why they're down is

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Speaker 1: live because the majors have always mattered more, but they've

429
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Speaker 1: never mattered more than they do in twenty twenty four because,

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Speaker 1: as we know, one of the best players in the world,

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Speaker 1: Briceon's gone. Some of the most famous players Keopka, DJ

432
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: now John Rahm are just not playing on a random week.

433
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Speaker 1: All those guys would have been playing this week at

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Speaker 1: the Travelers, All those guys would have been playing at

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Speaker 1: the RBC. Some of those guys I listed are champions

436
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Speaker 1: at the Waste Management or Pebble Beach or RIV, so

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00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: you don't have This is an individual sport, so if

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Speaker 1: I take away some of your top talent, it doesn't

439
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: mean as much. It's why when we watched the US Open.

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Speaker 1: Clearly it's on Father's Day, a lot of people are home,

441
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Speaker 1: but there was Bryson d Chambeau, who we never get

442
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Speaker 1: to see anymore, go in toe to toe with Rory.

443
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: So the drama built in with just the name recognition,

444
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: but also getting this guy that we don't get to watch.

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Speaker 1: I really don't think it's that complicated. Now, there's been

446
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Speaker 1: one guy over twenty five years who truly moves the needle.

447
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't even move the needle. He was the needle

448
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Speaker 1: in Tiger Woods. But in a sport like this no

449
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Speaker 1: different than tennis, which is not the same. But if

450
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Speaker 1: we went back fifteen ten years ago, if I took

451
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Speaker 1: Federer or Djokovic or Nadal or Sampris or some of

452
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Speaker 1: those guys and I split them in half, it would

453
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Speaker 1: diminish any event. It just would. Now, maybe tennis is

454
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Speaker 1: different because their Grand Slams are probably the only thing

455
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Speaker 1: most people watch, But in golf, like it's an inventory sport.

456
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Speaker 1: Every single week they're playing the next couple weeks. The

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Speaker 1: RBC in Detroit and the John Deere in Iowa don't matter,

458
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Speaker 1: and they never really have. But when you diminish the

459
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Speaker 1: Players Championship, when you diminish the Memorial, when you diminish

460
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Speaker 1: riv when you diminish waste management, it does impact the consumer. So,

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Speaker 1: like you said Thursday Friday, you're right, it's a long tournament.

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Speaker 1: But they don't matter. They're not looking to get ratings.

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Speaker 1: If five hundred thousand people watching the Golf Channel, that's

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Speaker 1: a win. It's all about for CBS and NBC Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday. And I think you see a direct correlation

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Speaker 1: with Pinehurst Superstars, two guys that you could not see

467
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Speaker 1: any other time going head to head beside four times

468
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Speaker 1: a year. It's not even possible anymore because one guy

469
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Speaker 1: doesn't play on the PGA Tour. So I just don't

470
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Speaker 1: think it's that complicated. I don't think they need to

471
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Speaker 1: change to three days, because I do think the cut

472
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Speaker 1: and the ultimate meritocracy of golf that cuts guys out

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Speaker 1: that aren't playing well. It's why a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: including myself, push back against this designated event. No cut bullshit. Now,

475
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Speaker 1: I get it from a business standpoint, if I invest

476
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Speaker 1: a lot of money as a title sponsor. I don't

477
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Speaker 1: want Scotti Scheffler having an off week and getting cut,

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Speaker 1: even though it's not possible, right. I don't want Rory

479
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Speaker 1: missing the cut, or Colin more Kower or whoever the

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Speaker 1: star players, John Rob Bryson back when those guys play.

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Speaker 1: The problem is I need all those guys. You only

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Speaker 1: have so many guys that have true name recognition in

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Speaker 1: golf with the casual I know most golfers Cornfiel included,

484
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: because I follow the shit most people do not. You

485
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: could argue right now, besides Tiger Phil, there's less than

486
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Speaker 1: five guys that move the needle. You could argue it's

487
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Speaker 1: really three, right, Rory, Scottie and Bryson d Chambeau. Well,

488
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Speaker 1: one of them's gone, and that's just definitely impacted the

489
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Speaker 1: sport in a bad way. Can you discuss a bit

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Speaker 1: more about the ratings impact that you were seeing on

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Speaker 1: these PGA tournaments. I have a buddy that is trying

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Speaker 1: to convince me that all these stars leaving isn't making

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Speaker 1: a big difference in viewership. So it's a very similar question.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I you can't remove star players

495
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: from an individual sport like this, just look at the NBA,

496
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Speaker 1: who has struggled with ratings. Imagine if I took five

497
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Speaker 1: of their top ten players and I put them in

498
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: another league that no one was paying attention to besides,

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Speaker 1: like social clips. I removed Curry, I removed Giannis, and

500
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: I remove Luca. It's like, well, you still got Lebron,

501
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: you still got Anthony Edwards, you still got Tatum and Brown.

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Speaker 1: It would hurt, and I think golf has been impacted

503
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Speaker 1: by that because you know you're not watching the best

504
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: of the best compete. Now, you could argue that historically

505
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: guys got to choose their own schedule. Listen, the business

506
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: model was not sustainable. You can't have a sport built

507
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: on stars when they don't always have to play. What's

508
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: a big issue with the NBA over the last ten

509
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: years load management. Guy's not playing. You just go to

510
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Speaker 1: a game. It's like, wait, Curry and Lebron are sitting tonight,

511
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: What the hell. That's what football brings to the table

512
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Speaker 1: when you buy it. When you buy tickets to a

513
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Speaker 1: football game, if that guy is not injured, which is

514
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Speaker 1: obviously possible in that sport, he's going to play. So

515
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: when I go to a Miami Dolphins Bills game. I

516
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea of Tyreek Hill and Josh

517
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Allen are playing in that game, and let's face it,

518
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Speaker 1: most of the time they do. It takes an injury

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00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: for them not to play. And that's the one problem

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00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: you get in golf. Before this whole situation was like,

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, John Rom's taking this week off. Bryce has

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00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: taken the next two weeks off. Rory's out, Like I

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Speaker 1: understand the emotional come down. I don't understand it, but

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Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. Bowing out this weekend

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Speaker 1: at the Travelers in Rory's that had to really suck

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Speaker 1: for him, clearly on on Sunday against Bryson, But like,

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Speaker 1: Bro kind of needs you to play. This is the

528
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: business we've built and you're a huge part of it.

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Speaker 1: You're the lead dog. Can't just like leave. I know

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Speaker 1: you're emotionally down, but we kind of need you. You're

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Speaker 1: kind of one of our lead dogs. Like you're carrying

532
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Speaker 1: the flag here of this business where we're all making

533
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Speaker 1: the money, and I just don't. It's a tough spot

534
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and it's why the tour was very vulnerable. Golf mail bag,

535
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Like you, I also like golf, play and gamble on golf.

536
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: I'll send you picks of the golf simulator room I built.

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Speaker 1: Looks pretty sweet. Here's my comment. Golf broadcasts in general

538
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: are pretty lame. I know you're panned on some of

539
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: the Live broadcasts, but they have some good graphics that

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Speaker 1: really enhance the telecast. I'm a nerd. I want to

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Speaker 1: see see swing metrics, ball speed, launch, angle, ball tracer,

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Speaker 1: all of them. Every shot being telecast should have a

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Speaker 1: large array of the of these metrics and graphics. As mentioned,

544
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Speaker 1: Live has nice graphics that show t shots. Flight Verse

545
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: scored a par that I think really enhanced the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of this, more graphics, more

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Speaker 1: met you see another broadcast. Apple does some of this

548
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: in their baseball broadcast Amazon with Thursday Night Football. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I'm not opposed to that. I think anytime

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Speaker 1: you're watching CBS or NBC and the shot tracer does

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00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: not work off the t it's like that that's unacceptable,

552
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: Like it has to you gotta get it. You can't

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00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: have a guy, especially on a Sunday, and it happened

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00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: multiple times yesterday. We're do teed off and you don't

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00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: see the shot tracer. I would say this about the

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00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: launch angle and the ball speed, that's pretty inside baseball.

557
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I don't think anyone would be

558
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: opposed to it like I like it when they do

559
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: the hot the apex on a shot when they do

560
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: get the shot tracer. Let's face it, CBS and NBC,

561
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Speaker 1: who have all the golf stuff, are both heavily involved

562
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: with the NFL, and they put all their chips in

563
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Speaker 1: the middle of the table. The way they treat those broadcasts,

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Speaker 1: how seriously they take it, how they are, how quick

565
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Speaker 1: they are to reshuffle stuff. They just don't take golf

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Speaker 1: as seriously. If I were defend to defend the golf broadcast,

567
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: who in the you know, golf podcast and media world

568
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: take a lot of shit. It is not football or

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Speaker 1: basketball where there is a timeout and a three minute

570
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: break and you can just go to commercial break and

571
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: nothing is happening. If you watch the NBA finals, if

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00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you watch an NFL or college football game, you never

573
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: miss a play. You never miss a dribble. In baseball,

574
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Speaker 1: you never miss a pitch. Golf is pretty unique that

575
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Speaker 1: you have, However, many guys on the course at one

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Speaker 1: time sixty seventy guys and maybe ten to fifteen in

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Speaker 1: the mix. It's hard to show all the shots and

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Speaker 1: get the commercial load in because the only way they

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Speaker 1: can make the money by purchasing the rights is to

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Speaker 1: show commercials. They have to make their money back. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm in that business. We play commercials. Some of you

582
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Speaker 1: guys complain it, it's the business we're in. Luckily, if

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Speaker 1: you listen to a podcast like everything I say, you

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00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: can hear we misshots in golf. I don't really have

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Speaker 1: a solution for that. Clearly, it doesn't feel like they

586
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: obviously care that much at times, and a lot of

587
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: people feel like it's one giant fu I'm with you.

588
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: You can always be innovative. I think the walk and

589
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: talk thing is a cool little addition, but again that's

590
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Speaker 1: pretty nerdy too. I think at the end of the day,

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00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: golf's just kind of a niche, boring sport. It's why

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00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: it'll never be one of the big sports in America

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Speaker 1: in terms of like twenty million people watching. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: include tiger Woods, but the three four, five six million

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Speaker 1: people that watch the big events. Sometimes the Master's eight nine,

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00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: ten million dollars, you can do a better job. And

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00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like they've just waved the white flag,

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00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: like yeah, it is what it is. This is our broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I got back from my father's day round of golf

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Speaker 1: to find NBC broadcasting the US Open all day. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I'm gonna be floating in the pool the

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00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: rest of the day, so not really listening to the coverage.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 1: NBC having it all day. Love your takes on network's ratings.

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Speaker 1: Want to hear your thoughts on the coverage. One issue

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Speaker 1: that the US Open had was to have a good

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00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I would say coverage in any sport you have the

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Speaker 1: play by play guy, and in golf and football, it's

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Speaker 1: jim Nantz on CBS. In football is one guy next

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: to him. Forever it was Phil Simms, now it's Tony Rummel.

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: In basketball, these three man boosts are awful. Just give

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00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: me two people, give me the play by play guy

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00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and the analysts. And in golf you got a bunch

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00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: of people on the course you can throw it down

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00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: to that are following the leaders. It should be an

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Speaker 1: easy back and forth like a ping pong. I like

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Speaker 1: Brandal Shambley. I know a lot of the players him.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this for Brandle, he'll talk a little shit.

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Speaker 1: He'll be like, that's awful. And sometimes in sports you

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00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: get these guys, former players whoever, that are never willing

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: to criticize. Yet when we're all sitting on the couch,

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00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: the reason all this exists in all the sports are

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Speaker 1: us watching. If we didn't watch, none of this would exist.

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00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Golf would just basically be great players playing in member guests.

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00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: So you have to resonate with the fans. I've said

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Speaker 1: this forever about Troy Aikman. He kind of got his

627
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: fastball back after he went ESPN and Tony Romel got paid,

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00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: and he will be critical of coaches and players, especially coaches,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you watch these new players like Tony Romo

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00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: ain't really being critical. I like Tony as a guy,

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00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: like I like to play golf with him. He's not

632
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: really my cup of tea. I like a guy to

633
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: be aggressive. Now, some would say that Branda was being

634
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: overly aggressive to Bryson because he hates live which is

635
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: well documented, which I thought he was a little too.

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00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: But you can't have four guys in the booth. It's

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00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: just too many people talking him and facts and going

638
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: back and forth. And let's face it, there's a balance, right.

639
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Trevor Immelman is not the level of player Nick Faldo was,

640
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: but he is way better than Nick Faldo. It ain't

641
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: even close. He's good. He's also easy to listen to

642
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: because it's just two guys. It's him and Namps and

643
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: then everyone else on the course. So when you look

644
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: like you don't need to be Tom Brady to be

645
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: a star broadcaster, you just don't. Being a broadcaster is

646
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: about entertainment and can you relate and can you create

647
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: like emotion to the guy watching when you're the analyst?

648
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Are you willing to say some stuff? Sometimes it might

649
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable for the dude playing or a coach or whoever,

650
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: depending on the sport. But if you're not willing to

651
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: do that, I think you're terrible at your job. It's

652
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting with Tom Brady, who is crushing these

653
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: hits with Coward, But like, is Tom gonna crush a

654
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: coach that maybe he knows or maybe he likes. It's

655
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: kind of a weird position to be in if he

656
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: does that. As well as how well he speaks about

657
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: the game. He's gonna be a superstar. But like I

658
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: like big personalities. That's why John Madden is an all

659
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: time rock star. Even Gruden, Like Gruden was pretty entertaining

660
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football. Nick Faldo was terrible, never said anything.

661
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: It was awful. Greg Norman in theory, should have been

662
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: really good, big personality, big talker, and you watched him

663
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: when Fox had the US Open for a couple of years.

664
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: He was awful at Chambers Bay. When when Dustin Johnson

665
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: has a chance to eagle to win two butt for

666
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: extra holes or three putt, he just completely froze. It

667
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: was like he choked. I was like, God, this is awful.

668
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: It's a tough job. I'm not acting like I could

669
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: do it, but i know what's good and what's not

670
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: because I've been watching sports for thirty plus years and

671
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: the flow of that US Open. I'm not even talking

672
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: about the commercial. I'm just you can't have that many

673
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: people talking. It's just too weird. It doesn't it doesn't work.

674
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: There has to be somewhat of a cohesion with everybody,

675
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: and it's so much easier to have a cohesion when

676
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: there's just two people. When you got three four people

677
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: sitting around each other. It just does not work. And

678
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: it didn't work, but ultimately the golf was so good

679
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: you could argue it doesn't really matter. As I'm watching

680
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: the back nine on Sunday of the Open the US Open,

681
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: an idea popped into my head and I know it

682
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: will never happen, but it would be cool if they

683
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: could have Rory hold off after finishing a hole and

684
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: let Bryson catch up so they could finish the round

685
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: being grouped together. However, if you make Rory stop for

686
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: the extended time, you risk him screwing his rhythm up.

687
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: I just don't like when the tournament is coming down

688
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: to two players and they're not in the final group together.

689
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I think there's two elements of this question. It worked

690
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: that weekend mainly because they were literally ten minutes apart,

691
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: and the way that course flowed, the t boxes were

692
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: right next to the greens. It worked, but you could

693
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: argue it never should have happened. They have these archaic

694
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: rules in golf. If a bunch of guys are tied

695
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: at a number that is based on when you finished

696
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: that round, who plays the following day. It's why Rory

697
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: and Bryson were not paired together. Or it's like, guys,

698
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: you control everything, right, you control who plays together, you

699
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: make up the rules. That was a no brainer. In

700
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: what world if you control everything, would you have not

701
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: put Rory and Bryson together? On your question? Sometimes it's

702
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: out of your control. If a guy is a group

703
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: or two ahead and they end up being tied, or

704
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's basically a two horse race and

705
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: they're not in the final group. It just that's part

706
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: of golf. But on that specific instance at the US Open,

707
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: they should just put the two together. Now you could

708
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: argue it worked out a little bit better for viewing

709
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: kind of the back and forth, but it didn't need

710
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: to be that. It just it did. The Masters does

711
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: the same shit like you control, So I never understand

712
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: why you wouldn't. Look at the NFL. They don't control

713
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: who plays. You play your division, you play a division

714
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: in another conference, you play another division in your conference,

715
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: and then you play first place schedule or second place

716
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: or wherever you finish. So we know when a season

717
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: ends the seventeen opponents on a team schedule. Yet they

718
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: take the sweetest games and they make sure they're in

719
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: the best spots. Right, they control the schedule. They don't

720
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: control who plays each other, even though the best teams

721
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: end up playing each other because first place teams like

722
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 1: the Chiefs play the Bills every year. Right, Peyton Manning

723
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady played each other every year because the

724
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: first place schedule. But like they do control when we

725
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: watch it and what games are in prime time. I

726
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: do think golf has to do a better job at that.

727
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: And cz you make the rules. It's not like there's

728
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: some governing body. You could do whatever you want to do.

729
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: What do you use to record and edit your pots? Well,

730
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I record this on a garage band, I shoot the

731
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: video on Zoom, get sent back to my team, James Adam,

732
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: and they cut it all up. Daniel and I have

733
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: a mic, says focus right. It's like a mike you

734
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: would find at a I don't know, a radio. You

735
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: know this isn't if you're gonna get into this business, can't.

736
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: The USB mix just aren't as good, so you have

737
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: to get Now. It's a lot of equipment. I didn't

738
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: set it up. James did, so I can't. I'm not

739
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: an equipment guy. I just know we got really good equipment.

740
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I got a nice Sony camera, but the USB mics.

741
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get in the mics, stay away from that. Okay,

742
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: last question, I feel like enough people aren't talking about

743
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: how incredibly lucky Bryson actually ended up being from his

744
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: t shot hitting the spectator. His second shot was still

745
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: incredibly tough, but had it not hit that fan, it

746
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: would have been even tougher on the second shot. Maybe

747
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I've overplaying it, but wanted your thoughts. That's part of

748
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: pro golf. I mean, you hit towers, you hit trees,

749
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: It's part of golf. Sometimes you hit the worst drive

750
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: ever and it hits a tree and goes out to

751
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: the middle of the fairway. Sometimes you hit a good

752
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: drive in year behind a tree. I would say he

753
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: got a pretty bad break being in the root and

754
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: under that tree. But like you hit fans, like there's

755
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: nothing you can do about that. I never understand, and

756
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: I've been to probably five plus PGA Tour tournaments. I

757
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: never ever stand three hundred plus yards on a hole.

758
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm either at the tea box or kind of around

759
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: the green, you know, in the stands. But I would

760
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: never ever stand on a hole. You're just in the

761
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: firing line. Guys get peppered all the time. But to me,

762
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: you could argue that Bryson got really lucky. Rory hadn't

763
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: missed a putt inside four feet all season long. If

764
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: he just makes those two putts, Bryson shit out of luck.

765
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: I think he got more lucky in Rory's putting woes

766
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: than he did a bounce, because we saw all week

767
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: long sometimes you got kind of boned in that wiregrass,

768
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes you were fine. It was truly like keep

769
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: your fingers crossed. It's why it was so fascinating watching

770
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: those guys walk up the fairway having no clue. Most core,

771
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: which as we all play, you have a pretty good

772
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: idea like hope I'm not in the bunker, or hope

773
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I got a decent line the rough now in Arizona.

774
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes you like, I hope I got a shot out

775
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: of the dirt. But at that course, it was truly like,

776
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could have a perfect lie, I

777
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: have one hundred and fifty yards in that won't even

778
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: phase me, or I could legitimately be in a bush.

779
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that. I just think these

780
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: guys hit fans all the time. On drives every week

781
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: every tournament, fans are getting hit, trees get hit. Remember

782
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: at the PGA Bryson, I think it was like whole sixteen.

783
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: I think he ended up burning it. Hit one of

784
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: the worst drives he's hit in any major this year.

785
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: Duck hook left hit off a tree middle of the fairway.

786
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of golf, you know it. I think it's

787
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: just there's a randomness to this. It's why when these

788
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: guys bitch and moan about getting unlucky, Like, yeah, I

789
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: don't feel any sympathy for you. Now. I get it.

790
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: If the greens are running like concrete, i'd be mad too,

791
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: But this notion that you should just be rewarded, it's like, well,

792
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: there's too much luck involved. Well, yes, it's kind of

793
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: the sport. It's what we all deal with watching you

794
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: guys have to deal with it like they love last

795
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: Weekend Travelers hit at the pin. It stops ten foot

796
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: for Birdie, Like I kind of. I really enjoyed watching

797
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Pinehurst because it was like I know that I you,

798
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: nobody I know could break a hundred, not a soul.

799
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: And I'm talking guys that shoot in the seventies. It

800
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: would have been so impossible, Like that was fun golf

801
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: to watch, and it pissed a lot of guys off.

802
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: They're getting mad, they're bitching and Moana and it's like, yeah,

803
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: it's enjoyable to see you guys with your back against

804
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: the wall keeping your fingers crossed on every single shot.

805
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: And I think it most spoke on their drives with

806
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: that wiregrass. I've seen a lot of different opinions. People

807
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of stupid. To me, it's better

808
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: than just like seven inch rough that there was such

809
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: a randomness to it that just kept you on the

810
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: edge of your seat. It's why both Rory and Bryson

811
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: on the eighteenth hole when they both pumped it left,

812
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: which I still don't understand both guys, and I would

813
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: say most guys on the PGA tour drivers could be

814
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: a little iffy. It happens to us all the majority

815
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: of them hit their three wood pretty straight. Both those

816
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: guys that the three with three hundred yards, so clearly

817
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: the fairway's not that big on eighteen both of them

818
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: there missus left. You got huge area to miss left

819
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: in the shit, Why wouldn't you just pump a three

820
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: wood to the middle of the fairway, even Bryson. You

821
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: could argue, you know, Rory's in a little bit of

822
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: a trouble, probably gonna par Why wouldn't you hit a

823
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: three wood to have a pretty good chance at Bertie?

824
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: And I know he just always hits driver, but the

825
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: driver had not been working. Even he said after, He's like,

826
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: my driver was kind of all over the place. It

827
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: wasn't doing what I wanted to do. I don't understand

828
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: why he didn't hit three wood on eighteen when he

829
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: had just hit three wood whatever on whole thirteen and

830
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: drove the green deastraight baby little draw. Why he didn't

831
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: do that, I don't know, don't I don't get it,

832
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: But ultimately doesn't matter. He's a US Open champion and

833
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: be one of the heavy favorites headed to the British Open.

834
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: The volume