1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Build each other up because we're all in the same struggle. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: We're all just doing our best. We all want to 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: be successful. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily a body checking in here. You are 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: listening to episode two hundred and fifteen of Hurdle, a 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: wellness focused podcast. We're connect with everyone from your favorite 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about our highest hies, 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: toughest moments, and everything in between. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: We all go through. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Hurdles in life, and my goal through these discussions is 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: to empower you to better navigate yours and move with 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: intention so that you can strive towards your own big 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: potential and of course have some fun along the way. 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: For today's episode two hundred and fifteen, I am chatting 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: with Annie Koons. She is a heptathlete and Olympian and 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: I am so so amped to bring you this conversation. 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: We talk about so many things in today's episode, ranging 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: from the injuries that Annie sustained putting her on the 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: injury list for this year's World Championships, what it feels 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: like for her now to have a sponsor that not 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: only believes in her, but invests in her within a morpho, 22 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: plus what it really means to be a heptathlete, which 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: featuring seven different events, it has a slew of challenges 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: outside of just hurdles. So amped to bring you this conversation. 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: Really excited personally to be back in Brooklyn after man 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: a decent amount of travel woes and still feeling on 27 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: a high from the Salt Lake City Unleashed conference. 28 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: I digress. Make sure you're. 29 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Following along with Hurdle over on social media. It's at 30 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Hurdle podcast I am over at Emily a Body. If 31 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: you are not yet following along with the weekly Hurdle 32 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: I would love for you to do so. The link 33 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: to subscribe to the weekly newsletter, which gives you so 34 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: many of the same things you love about the show, 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: ranging from motivation, inspiration, my gear picks, and so much 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: more in your inbox every single. 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: Friday is in the show notes. 38 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: And with that, let's get to hurdling. 39 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with Annie Koons. She is 40 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: a heptaphle. How are you doing today? 41 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 5: I'm amazing. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: I'm excited, too happy to have you here. 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't kick this off 44 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: by addressing what's going on with you right now, And 45 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: what's going on with you right now is you're making 46 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: a comeback from some injury. 47 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Talk to me about it. 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm definitely. 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, you go to the Olympics, it's like this 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: peak moment and you think it's going to be easier 51 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: from that moment on. And I think this year has 52 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: proven to me that that's not the case always and 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: that adversity is just part of the sport. And so 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: unfortunately for me, that's kind of been my situation this year, 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: battling a torn planner fascia, which is kind of where 56 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: your arch connects to your heel, so you kind of 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: need that for some different events that I do. But 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of been a year of blessings in disguise. 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: I think it brought to light a lot of things 60 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: that weren't mechanically working very well in my feet and 61 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the way I was running, and so it's kind of 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: helped me to take care of the little things this year, 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think I needed a little bit of a 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: reset just after the five year grind of the Olympics 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and training for that, so it's kind of give me 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: a chance to do that and so I'm super grateful 67 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: for that, but excited to get back out on the track. 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm definitely missing it and sad not be part of 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: World Championships this year, but it's part of it and 70 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a comeback. 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: So I appreciate this perspective and this is in some way, 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: although not easy, happening for me. Did it take work 73 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: with a coach or just time to pass for you 74 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: to be in this place and have this perspective? 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's definitely. I'd be lying 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: to you. 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm always this positive and it's you know, 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: always blessing in disguise. But I think it's kind of 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: waves of it where you're feeling super motivated and you're like, Okay, 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: this is what I'm supposed to be doing right now, 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: and then there's waves in the bottom where you're like, 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this stuff is tedious, Like rehab is 83 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: not fun. I'm not out on the track with my 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: friends and by myself every day. So I think it's 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: just doing things to put your like daily to kind 86 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: of put your mindset in the right. 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: Place, and then accepting those moments when. 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: You're at the bottom when you're like, Okay, I'm really 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: not feeling it and that's okay. I don't have to 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: be super positive all the time, but just kind of 91 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: behaving your way to success in those moments. It's kind 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: of been my mantra that I've given myself is like, 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: you're not always going to feel like you want to 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: do that, but you've got to just show up every 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: day and do it. And so that's kind of helped me. 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: And then just taking the time to like recharge with 97 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: friends and family because I usually don't get that during 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the summer, and doing things to kind of fill my 99 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: cup in that way where I don't have track feeling 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: that role. 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: Really this year, I didn't know when I was going 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: to ask you about your injury that you were going 103 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: to tell me about planter fascia because I've been dealing 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: with some issues. Although thankfully, knock on like my wooden 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: desk right here, it's not torn, but I have been 106 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: aggregating plant fascia stuff, and it does bring to lights 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: so much about your mechanics. I am like doing so 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: much calf stuff now, which that's like me constantly releasing 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: my calf when I'm crossing my legs and like moving 110 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: my ankle around, So I feel you I've been there. 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: It definitely shows a ton of like what's not working right, 112 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: because you're not going to get plant of fashi if 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: like you're out of your mechanics are perfect. So I 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: definitely am just grateful for that opportunity to kind of 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: fix those things and lay the foundation for the next 116 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: two years on the way to Paris twenty twenty four. 117 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: What's the predicted recovery time for you right now, Like, 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: do you have an outlet or an insight into when 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: you'll be back on the track. 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just got my MRA, my second my 121 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: follow up our MRI last week, so I'm actually so 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: to get those results today. I'm patiently waiting in anticipation 123 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: to hopefully be cleared to kind of progress more into 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: running and accelerations and all that. So very very excited 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: for that. I've been pretty much doing non impact stuff 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: for about three to four months. I was working like 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: on the alter G so kind of takes your body 128 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: weight away, so I can do that kind of running, 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: but nothing like fully on the track. So hopefully this 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: next week or two I'll be able to get cleared 131 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: to kind of move over back to the track and 132 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: or we'll probably be on your ass at first, but 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: the outside running so super excited. 134 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about you or how much 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: you've shared about this particular injury on social but I 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: know that plantro fascia idis as a whole is like 137 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: super buzzy because so many people navigate it and deal 138 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: with it and are so frustrated with it. So beyond 139 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: taking this time and doing a lot of non weight 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: bearing stuff switching up your exercise routine, what else have 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: you been doing from a recovery pov to give maybe 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: your foot a little bit more of what it really needs. 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, so I've actually started I started working with like 144 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: a rehab specialist, Andrew Hauser. He worked with the Dodgers 145 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: for a while, and He's given me just like like 146 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: all the things that I've never done before and never 147 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: had the time for. I feel like, as as athlete, 148 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: you're like your days are just so long that there's 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: certain things you just don't make time for. 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: And I've actually done that this year. 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: So like it's a ton of like mobility stuff and 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: then footstrength things. I use the thing a toe a 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: toe pro thing, so you're like a lot of calf 154 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: at acentric razes. It's a lot with planar fasci iis 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to just take the time off, you're 156 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: actually loading it to build that strength back. You obviously 157 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: don't get surgery, that's like last option. So it's really 158 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: just tedious rehab for the last few months, and then 159 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: also learning how to put force into the ground properly 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: because we realized that my right foot wasn't doing that. 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: So I use this a lot of I do a 162 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with like a water bag, and it's 163 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: kind of like balance and mobility and strength and functional 164 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: strength stuff. So it's been super fun and different, and 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: so that's kind of been you know, exciting in a way, 166 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: and just trying to lean into that and hope that 167 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: it works and I heal it. 168 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: I love I just like I keep smiling here. No 169 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: one's like, look at me smile as they listen to this, 170 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: But I'm just feels so nice to hear you seemingly 171 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: be at peace with something again that has at times 172 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: so frustrating. I feel you mentioned at the top of 173 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: this not participating in World Champs. 174 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: How does that feel for you? 175 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: It sings like you know. 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: You say that, and I still get like a sensation 177 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: to my body, like you know, And I think that's 178 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: good in a way because that means that competitor spirit 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and like that love and passion is still there. And 180 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: so I think at first there was definitely a few 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: weeks there where you know, you're looking at what girls 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: other girls are doing, and they're training, and they're at meats, 183 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: and this is my first year and gosh, I don't know, 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know the last time I took a 185 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: year off like this, and so just kind of watching 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: your competitors still doing what you love was really tough. 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: And so I kind of had to take a break 188 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: and just like force myself not to look at that 189 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and just lean in and be present in what I'm 190 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: doing in my reality right now. So it's definitely tough, 191 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: but I also think I took some time to really 192 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: get introspective about it and know and feel where I 193 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: was at, and I this whole year mentally was different. 194 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: It was, you know, it's this pinnacle moment where of 195 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: your career where you make the Olympics. 196 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: I did better than I expected I would do, and 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: it kind of opened my eyes I thought I was 198 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: going to be done after Tokyo, and then I realized 199 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: leaving Tokyo, I'm not done. 200 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: I want to. 201 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Compete for a medal and I know that potential is there, 202 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: which I kind of shocked myself with so adjusting to 203 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: that and then kind of coming back from Tokyo and 204 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: being like, okay, let's hit the ground running, let's go. 205 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: I only took like nine days off. I didn't allow 206 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 5: my body to break. 207 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: Mentally, I was struggling just allowing myself to be present 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: and practice and focus, and so I feel like the 209 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: burnout actually really hit me, that Olympic hangover that everyone 210 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: talks about, and so I feel like it's all just 211 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: happenying for a reason in that if I want to 212 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: be successful in the next two years leading to Paris, 213 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I think I needed this summer to take that break 214 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: mentally and physically, and I think physically it forced me 215 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: into it. I think my body was speaking to me 216 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: and I had to listen to that because knowing my personality, 217 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't take breaks and I don't slow down, So 218 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: it forced me into that, and that's kind of how 219 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: this perspective change has happened. 220 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So I've only had one other heptathlete on 221 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: the show, and it was a really really long time ago. 222 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: Her name is Georgia ellen Wood. 223 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: So why don't you tell the hurdlers about the heptathlon 224 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: if they don't have the background, know how? 225 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the heptathlon is the women's version of the decathlon. 226 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: So it's what Bruce I would say, it's what Bruce 227 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: Jenner did, and everyone's like, oh yeah, OK, or now Caitlin. 228 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: But and so it's seven different events over two days. 229 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: It's based on a point system. So however far you jump, 230 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: however fast you run, however far you throw, there's a 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: certain amount of points down to, like the centimeter and millisecond, 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: and so you add it up over the two days 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: and your your score at the end is how you 234 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: total you know, first, second, third, and it is It 235 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is fun. 236 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: It keeps me busy. 237 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: It keeps me busy. Give us the rundown of the events. 238 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: It is hurdles, high jump, shot put two hundred on 239 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: day one, and then on the day two it is 240 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: long jump, jablin in the eight hundred, the dren big deal. 241 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: You know, the saying how you do anything is how 242 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: you do everything. Yes, how is it actually possible to 243 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: excel at all of those events? 244 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, I joke that I'm just above average at a 245 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that excellent at once. But at the 246 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: same time, I think it's interesting because a the camaraderie 247 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: within the heptathlon is really special and very different. Everyone 248 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: has different strengths and weaknesses. You can kind of root 249 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: for each other in a different way where it's like 250 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: a different competitive spirit. And then it just you don't 251 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: get burnout. If you have a bad event, you move 252 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: on to the next one. You have another opportunity to 253 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: be successful. So I think that's pretty cool about it. 254 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Being above average at a bunch of things. Have you 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: always been a dedicated multi sport athlete? 256 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I've always you know, I've done track in soccer 257 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: since I was two and three years old, so I 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: did that all the way through college. 259 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: So yes, and that I for sure was. 260 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what the heptathlon was until my 261 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: senior year of high school and my high school coach 262 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: threw me in one of them in Colorado. And then 263 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: as I was starting the recruiting process, all of the 264 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: college coaches were like, you'd be an amazing heptad let 265 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and I had no idea what it was, and then 266 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: I ran my first eight hundred and I was like, 267 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what did I. 268 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 5: Sign myself up for? What is this thing? 269 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: So fell into heptath on late, especially because I was 270 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: a soccer scholarship as well, so I was basically a 271 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: four ride for soccer, technically a walk on for track. 272 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: Soccer is a team sport. It always was my priority, 273 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: and I would just do track because I loved it 274 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: and didn't want to give it up. And then when 275 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: I red shirted finally dove into track fully my fifth year, 276 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: it really took off for me and then kind of 277 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: changed my perspective in that I thought there was more 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: ceiling there and more I wanted to see, you know, 279 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: what that potential was in that sport. 280 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 5: And I'm happier than I've heard that I chose that. 281 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: And fifth year strictly based on athletics. 282 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I needed it for school because I was 283 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: always in I was always in season, so you know, 284 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: I could really only do like twelve credits every semester 285 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: because of I was just in season in season fall 286 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: to summer, and then my summer you know, at an 287 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: end till June. We had to report back end of 288 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: July for soccer, so I only got like a month 289 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: off every year, so I needed it for school anyway. 290 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: And then my soccer coaches were really encouraging me, like, Hey, 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: we know we're going to be good. 292 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: We want you to start. 293 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: We feel like it takes you a few games to 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: kind of get in the rhythm and build the chemistry. Again, 295 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: you don't get the spring foundation that all the other 296 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: girls get. 297 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 5: Let's take us. 298 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: We think it'd be great for you to take the spring, 299 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: be with the girls, build that strength at the foundation, 300 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: go into fall. 301 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: We actually ended up making Final four. I was a 302 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: starter all year. It was great. 303 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: And then I transitioned into track for a year and 304 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: a half and that was the first time in my 305 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: life that I've put all of my eggs into track 306 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: and it took off and I was happier in the sport. 307 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: So I'm just super grateful that I made that decision 308 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: to kind of allow myself to fully be present in 309 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: each sport for the first time. 310 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: You say that you are happier in the sport, YEA, 311 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: why I think that With soccer, I got a little 312 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: bit burnout and I think there's you know, there's a 313 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: little bit more p in soccer, you know, with their 314 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: playing time and you know, does this coach like you 315 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: or does this coach And I mean even like making 316 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: national teams and things like that. 317 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Those girls are in the system for a very long time, 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: so it's very hard to kind of break into that. 319 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: With track. 320 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: You get the time, you go, you get top three, 321 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: you go, And I love that about it, and I 322 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: just felt myself being happier in practice. 323 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: Soccer is like a sisterhood. 324 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: You The games are like nothing other like winning as 325 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: a team is just something so special that I'm very 326 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: very grateful for. 327 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: And that was what I loved so much about it. 328 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: But the day to day stuff, I wasn't as happy 329 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: as in track. Like the day to day once I transitioned, 330 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: I was like super excited to get out there. I 331 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: feel like I was learning so much because I was 332 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: so behind in the sport. So every day was just 333 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: super exciting because I just felt like things were clicking 334 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: every day and I was just a lot happier. 335 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: When did you start to realize as you made this transition, 336 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: just how much more above average you were at these 337 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: things than everybody else. 338 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: Gosh. 339 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I think it took me probably the Olympic Trials in 340 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. That was the year. So at that end 341 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: of that year, that was my end of my fifth year. 342 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: So I had broken the school record or I qualified 343 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: for the Olympic Trials, which did not see that coming, 344 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Like whatsoever. I was like twenty second I think out 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: of twenty two girls that made the Olympic Trials. And 346 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: then I finished eighth overall at the Olympic Trials and 347 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: that really opened my eyes. And that's where I broke 348 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: the school record and things started clicking, and I got 349 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: recruited there by my now coach, Chris Mack. He saw 350 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: me and his athlete, Heather was a Head's athlete and 351 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: it was a dual SPORTY talked to her a lot, 352 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: so she was like, hey, like, I think you have 353 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: a lot of potential in the sport and you should 354 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: see how that you know where that takes you after college? 355 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I think MAC would be great for you. And so 356 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I ended up moving to California if trained full time, 357 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and I've never been more grateful to have that opportunity, 358 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: because I don't think if I didn't have that opportunity 359 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I would have kept going in the sport. 360 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when you made the move at that time, 361 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: were you or did you have any sponsors to help 362 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: cover the costs that go hand in hand with diving 363 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: full time into training. 364 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: So I didn't have any sponsors until the Olympic year 365 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. So my after the Olympic trials 366 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: is when I finally got some help financially and so 367 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: having the center there to pay for domestic flights for me, 368 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: to pay for health insurance, to get sports mad you know, 369 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: help there, to have a coach that was employed by 370 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: USATF like that was a game changer because I didn't 371 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: have the funds, I didn't have the support behind me, 372 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: and it really did take me, you know, until twenty 373 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: nineteen to kind of get some I got like, you know, 374 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: Nike sent me like gear when when I made World 375 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Championships some stuff like that, but I really didn't have 376 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: like financial help until a mor FO sponsored me after 377 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics. And so I'm just so unbelievably grateful for 378 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: a company that would support me and is behind me 379 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: and wants to see me succeed, because I haven't had 380 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: that until now. 381 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: Definitely a lesser known brand. So why don't you shed 382 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: some light on what a morpho is and then we'll 383 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: go back to talk a little bit more about your 384 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: journey to your first Olympic Games. 385 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, a Morpho is incredible. It's just so you know, 386 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. It's a startup company 387 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: of weighted clothing, apparel, workout apparel, and I you know, 388 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: they approached to me and not only are they just 389 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: amazing people, amazing people to work with, they value me 390 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: as a part of their company, which I think doesn't 391 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: happen too often from just friends that I know that 392 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: have had sponsorships. 393 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 5: They really can. 394 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: They really consider me a partner and want me a 395 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: part of a lot of things. So I was super 396 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: grateful for that. But not only that, just the innovativeness 397 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: of it. It's like I as a HEBT athlete, our 398 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: volume is so high every day, like we can't just 399 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: add more to add more is really tough. And with 400 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: a Morpho, it's like I don't have to do anything different. 401 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: I can throw on this stuff and I'm going to 402 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: burn more calories and they get more out of my jumps. 403 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 5: I'm going to get more resistance training. 404 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: And so for me, that's just a tool that I'm 405 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: going to gain an edge about having to do anything. 406 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: And I think when I got to the Olympics, I realized, like, 407 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: it really is that extra one percent, Like everyone there 408 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: is amazing, and it's really going to take that extra 409 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: one percent to get to get above some of those girls, 410 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: and so something like a morpho is a tool to 411 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: help me get there. 412 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: I was just super excited about it. 413 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like it's important to kind of 414 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: stress here that the weighted clothing, so to speak, it's 415 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: not like you're putting on twenty pounds and going to 416 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 2: do the exact same stuff that you used to do. 417 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: It's low in weight, right, yeah, Oh it's low. 418 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 5: And wait yeah, and so but it does. 419 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy because like you put it on and initially 420 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, it kind of feels something. 421 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 5: You totally forget that you're even wearing. It doesn't feel 422 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: like anything. 423 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I think the leggings are like a pound and a 424 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: half or something like that, So none of the clothes 425 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: are going to go over a pound and a half 426 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: and then the weight best is about five pounds. But 427 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: that's the amazing thing about it, and you look at 428 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: the science and numbers, it makes sense like you really 429 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: are getting more out of your workout, but you're not 430 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: having to sacrifice form. And that's huge because like the 431 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: weight best that we would use before, we used to 432 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: joke like we look like FBI agents. They're just like bulky. 433 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: You're like moving differently, your balances off. Everything here is 434 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: so fitted and the way that they place the microbeads 435 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: are so specific on your muscles that yeah, you don't 436 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: have to sacrifice scorn and that's huge. 437 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: It's crazy hearing you talk about this now for me 438 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: thinking about where you started. You were talking about your 439 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: beginnings and prepping for that first Olympic Games. Now with 440 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: the know how that you have, it's just a completely 441 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: different athlete. 442 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: It's it's hilarious. 443 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's, you know, going through this year, 444 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: being able to give myself a little bit of grace 445 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: because I'm like Annie, think about three years before the 446 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: last Olympics, Like where were you then, and it's just 447 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: completely different athletes. So I think just allowing myself to 448 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: lean into the moment that I'm in and taking that 449 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: for what it is and knowing that you know, like 450 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: so much can change in a year, and so yeah, 451 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: definitely it's funny to look back and just realize. 452 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: The difference an athlete that I am now compared to that. 453 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: What else was. 454 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: Going on in your life when you made your first 455 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: Olympic team? 456 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, what was going on in my life? 457 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 458 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was everyone on deck. I mean it 459 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: was my village of people, my fiance, my now fiance. 460 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: We were dating back then, but our relationship that took 461 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: the back seat. I mean it was truly a team 462 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: effort of like my coaches, my family, my sports, my sports, 463 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: my team. 464 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: I mean it was. It was a bit of a 465 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: pressure cooker too. 466 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: I was living on site, so on the Olympic year, 467 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: I actually moved on site. I was an offsite athlete, 468 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: but they have a residency program, so you're their offsite 469 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: or on site. I moved on site, which is like 470 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: these tiny three hundred square foot dorms. Like we didn't 471 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: have a kitchen we have. I brought like my air fryer, 472 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and like I wed like a mini fridge. I shared 473 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: a bathroom with another thirty three year old. It's like 474 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: dorm living for a bunch of almost thirty year olds. 475 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: And so that was interesting, but I mean it had 476 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: its pros and cons. I mean, you're in, you're in that, 477 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: you don't leave it, you can focus, you have no distractions, 478 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: But it did become a bit of a pressure cooker 479 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: just being surrounded by people that are all trying to 480 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: make this you know goal, never leaving your. 481 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: Place of work. 482 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Really it was great, but also you know, taxing, So 483 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to figure out that balance now 484 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: of living off site but also being able to focus 485 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: and put all my eggs into that. So yeah, that 486 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: was kind of the difference from making AVIC team. 487 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: To know. 488 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: It's so interesting because I'm sitting here and I don't 489 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: think I've ever heard about this residency program before, So 490 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: would you be able to talk a little bit about 491 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: that and how someone even gets to be a part 492 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: of it. 493 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: It's actually sad because they're they're you know, they're cutting 494 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: the program after this year, which is unfortunate because I 495 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: feel like it gives so many athletes the opportunity to 496 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: be successful. Just funding is getting cut for it, so 497 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: we'll have, you know, use but we won't be able 498 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: to do anything other than that. We don't We're not 499 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: allowed to live on site anymore, but up until you know, 500 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: this last year, you were either I think there's like 501 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: thirty of US somewhere in there. 502 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: There's a jumps group, Jeremy Fisher's jumps group. 503 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: There's the multis so Chris Max Multize, and then John 504 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Degotta has all the throwers, so those are kind of 505 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: the three. And then poll Vulters had publicers when I 506 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: first got there, So those are kind of the different 507 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: categories that you can be a part of. And then 508 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: there's Paralympic Track and Field, and basically it's a little 509 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: compound like it's the Olympic Training or it's now the 510 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: two of US to Elite Athlete Training Center down two 511 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: of US is south of San Diego, and there's rugby, 512 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: there's BMX, there's archery, there's rowing, there's US there's Paralympic tracks. 513 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a little village of Olympic sports 514 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: and people are living, breathing what they do. There's a 515 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: dining hall for food and then there's dorms there, so 516 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: you basically and then they have their sports in my 517 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: clinic as well, so it's just everything play. 518 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 5: USA Track and Field was paying. 519 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: For it formerly paying for it, so and yeah, they're 520 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: not employing our coaches anymore anything like that. So yeah, 521 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: so it's kind of a bummer, but it was amazing 522 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: for the time that we had it because it just 523 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: gave you the opportunity to be successful and you're kind 524 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: of immersed in being around all of these amazing gold 525 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: medal I mean, I was around Britney Reees, I'm around 526 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: Will Clay, I'm learning from the best, I'm around the best. 527 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Krauser was there for a while. So it really 528 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: just put you in an atmosphere to be successful. So 529 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: it's really unfortunate that it's ending. 530 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: What would you say was one of the most difficult 531 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: lessons that you had to learn, kind of immersing yourself 532 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: in that environment early on. 533 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I think the comparison game, I think that is really tough. I, 534 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, came in and A I was out of shape. 535 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: I wasn't in the shape that I should have been, 536 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: and went on like a little drinking dinner like surely 537 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: after the Olympic trials in twenty sixteen, So I didn't 538 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: come in as as good of shape, which I really 539 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: regretted because then I got there, I'm training with Erica Bogard, 540 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: who was like just misfitness. She is just tiny, she's strong, 541 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: she's fast, she's amazing at distance stuff. So I was 542 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: constantly comparing myself to her and trying to change, you know, 543 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: how I do things to how she does things. And 544 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: I think that was probably the biggest lesson, is like 545 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I am a completely different athlete than Erica Bogard, and 546 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: I have to know that and know that, like I'm 547 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: a power girl, Like I'm not going to be this 548 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: like tiny couick little thing, like I'm six feet tall, 549 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and sixty pounds. Like I just had 550 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: to really figure out how to not compare myself every 551 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: day to her and try to be like her, I'd 552 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: be like Annie, And so figuring that out too probably 553 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: two years. 554 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: I've like was taken aback for a second. 555 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: But I love that you just said your height and 556 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: your weight, which is just bizarre because I feel like 557 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: that's such a taboo thing. Have you ever felt that 558 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: way as an athlete? Like a little odd that like 559 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: all of this information about you is just like kind 560 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: of a public record at this point. 561 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I think that was probably one of 562 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: my biggest insecurities is like, oh my god, I weighed 563 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty pounds or like one hundred 564 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: and sixty two pounds in off season, and like, you know, 565 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I was even looking up girls that 566 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: are my height that are have to athletes, like what 567 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: do they weigh? 568 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 5: Like am I? 569 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, It's like one of those things that, especially 570 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: as a female, I think in general, we're constantly being 571 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: hard on ourselves and comparing ourselves to other people and 572 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: figuring out, you know, I think, how to fuel myself 573 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: properly and know like, gosh, I'm like one hundred and 574 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: sixty pounds of muscle, like I'm strong as hell like 575 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: and then like you look at Erica, I mean she's 576 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: five seven, she's like this tiny just genetically she's smaller 577 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: than me, but she's jacked as well, and so just 578 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: really just knowing like, Okay, I'm just going to get 579 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: myself to optimal performance, whatever that is, and accept that 580 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: and know that like strong is better. And I think 581 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: I struggle with that for a really long time. And 582 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I think you have coaches too that make you feel 583 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: like you need to be skinnier, you need to be 584 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: smaller to be more successful and I had coaches and 585 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: college that even told me like, oh, if you lost 586 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: ten pounds, like you'd be amazing. So things like that 587 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: that really get in your head. I struggled with up 588 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: until probably like twenty nineteen. 589 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: Was there a turning point for that? 590 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I you know, just a god thing. 591 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: I was on vacation with my boyfriend and his family 592 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: and he, you know, anywhere we go, he makes friends 593 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: with everyone, but he made friends with the bartender a 594 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: at a hotel and his wife happened to be a 595 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: master's truck and field athlete who also is like a 596 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: metabolic practitioner and got to talk with him. 597 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 5: Long story short, I met with her and she just. 598 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: Completely transformed you know, my body and got me to 599 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: optimal performance and taught me how to fuel myself properly. 600 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: It was just a lot about like how you're eating, 601 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: when you're eating certain things, cutting certain things out, and 602 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: it's specific to my body, like she just caters. 603 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 5: Because everyone is so different. 604 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's frustrating too, because you know, 605 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: there's this like myth that you know, there's just like 606 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: a one size fits all. 607 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: I think with like the paleo or quito or whatever 608 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: being in all that. 609 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: It's like, your body is so specific, and so she 610 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: really caters to what works for you, Like R I 611 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: can what kind of carbs are good for me? 612 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 5: You know, is it fruit, is it potatoes, is it whatever? 613 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: And when certain things are good for me so and 614 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: supplements like what I'm deficient in where my hormone imbalances are. 615 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: That's so specific to especially women. So she figured that 616 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: out for me and got me on a protocol that 617 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: transformed my body and finally got me to that option 618 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: performance that I had been trying to reach and didn't 619 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: know how. 620 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so interesting when you say, like I 621 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: eliminated certain things or I cut back on certain things. 622 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: People you know are listening and they're probably like, oh, 623 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: I want to know what that is. But to your point, 624 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: everyone is just so different. And of course your performance 625 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: goals are something to keep in mind here, like this 626 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: is your profession. And for so many people who may 627 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: be stuck in their own version of the comparison trap, 628 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: they're like, well, if I do this and this, then 629 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: maybe I can look a certain way. But so many 630 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: factors go into that, where what your genetics are, what 631 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: your everyday activity levels are, how stressed you are, what 632 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: medication you're on. Like the list is literally endless, so 633 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: it goes. 634 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: On and on and on. But I would love like 635 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 5: people that are listening. 636 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: My medal law practitioner name is Cynthia Cynthia Montolioni. It's 637 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: fast over forty on Instagram. You can reach out to her. 638 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: She is amazing. She's based out of Hawaii, but she 639 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: does like, if you're a storing stress, it's going to 640 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: show in your stomach, if you're doing toxin, it's going 641 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: to show in your hamstrings. Like she figures out what's 642 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: going on in your body and can cater something specifically 643 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: to you. 644 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 5: And I think that is exactly to your point. That's 645 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 5: that's the game changer there. 646 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: The other thing that I'd love for you to reflect 647 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: on a little bit maybe the journey, the mental journey 648 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: that went with this is you mentioned that there were 649 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: coaches or people that were surrounding you at different times 650 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: that were overly critical or perhaps just critical about your 651 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: body and maybe focus a little bit more on that 652 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: than what was happening within your performance. So can you 653 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: just shed some light on really what that was like 654 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: for you in college. 655 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I just remember feeling so in secure and so frustrated 656 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: because I didn't know, you know, even the nutritionists in college, 657 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: like you know, they were giving me things or saying like, yeah, 658 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: you're doing anything right, they weren't helping me much, and 659 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. So I just remember 660 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: being so frustrated and genetically, you know, I think my 661 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: genets are just a little bit different, and was constantly 662 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: comparing and then having male coaches specifically that I just 663 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: don't think fully understand or know how to tactfully address. 664 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 5: Things in that way. 665 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: But having you know, those tactful conversations with females I 666 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: think is hard for men sometimes and male coaches. 667 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: So I just think going through that was. 668 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: A little bit different and hard to have those conversations 669 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: because for me, I would just shut off and take 670 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: it in and not you know, have an open conversation 671 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: about it and then just get more insecure and more frustrated. 672 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: So that was definitely really tough in college. I would say, 673 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: more than anything. 674 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: You make your first Olympic team, where are you? 675 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I was in Eugene, Oregon with my whole family, which 676 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: was amazing because you know, they hadn't really gotten to 677 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: watch me in like two years because of COVID. My 678 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: entire family and like some of my best friends were 679 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: up in the stadium. 680 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: My sister made it. 681 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: Her flight got She's a track coach in Colorado, so 682 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: her flight actually got canceled on Saturday, so Sunday she 683 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: made it only because they postponed the eight hundred like 684 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: eight hours or whatever because of the heat. And so 685 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: right when I lined up to the line, and at 686 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: that point, the stadium was full, but I heard my 687 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: sister say like, oh Annie and looked up in the crowd, 688 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: like I get tearyarid thinking about it. But she made 689 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: it for my last race, and she's a track coach too, 690 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: so it was just really special to have her there 691 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and my whole family because it's just been truly such 692 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: a team effort to get me to that point. So 693 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: to be able to share that moment with them was amazing. 694 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: They my family came down, I hugged them, My fiancee 695 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: came down. 696 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 5: I was able to hug and kiss him, and. 697 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: We just had one of the most emotional moments because 698 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: of anyone. He's been there the day to day, the 699 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: ups and downs, and he's dealt with me coming home 700 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: crying or whatever, feeling like I can't do it. 701 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 5: So to get to that moment together it was just 702 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: super special. 703 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you spoke about how much it meant to 704 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: you that your sister was there. Also your family to 705 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: touch on worthy of noting here you have a lot 706 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: of athleticism in your family. 707 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: Your dad played in a Super. 708 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Bowl yes, seventy six with the Raiders Casual. 709 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: So for you, what was it like growing up in 710 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: a family where there was definitely a stress on athletics. 711 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, I look back at my childhood and the 712 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: thing that I'm really grateful for is my parents always 713 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: allowed me to make my own choices. They didn't push 714 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: me in any direction. And I think just innately, I 715 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a hard worker. I loved what 716 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: I was doing, so they didn't have to force me 717 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: to go to practice or force me to stay after 718 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: or anything like that. They really allowed me to make 719 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: those decisions for myself. And then I think just being 720 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: in a family that's so sports oriented and having my dad, 721 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: who's been at the elite level, he's been in the 722 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: pro level, he's won a Super Bowl. To have that 723 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: resource growing up was so priceless because he just gets it. 724 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: And you know, my mom it was a different era 725 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: back then, like she you know, I think she played 726 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: softball a little bit, but they didn't have a lot 727 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: of sports offered to her, so she doesn't fully understand, 728 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm going through. And so to have 729 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: my dad to lean into and like have those moments 730 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: where like, hey, I'm having this self doubt or hey, 731 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: like how do I make this team and how do 732 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I push myself or how do I handle this situation? 733 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Just having that resource there was just amazing and he's 734 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: he's been my role model for sure as far as 735 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: sports go. 736 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and spoiler alert, coming in number six in the 737 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: world in your first Olympics, Like does saying that or 738 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: hearing that ever get old? 739 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know who that it's even fully hit me, 740 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Like I think it don't hit me like in ten years, 741 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: you know, like because I'm still in it right now 742 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I want more, Like what do 743 00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: you mean? 744 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 5: You know? 745 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: So I'm and it's just funny because like a year ago, 746 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, over a little bit over a year ago, 747 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: before the trials, if you told me that I'd be like, 748 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, are you kidding me? Like, oh my gosh, 749 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: it's amazing. And now I'm just like my Now, my 750 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: goals are just different, and I have my expectations a 751 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: little bit higher, and so it's amazing, but I want 752 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: more for sure. 753 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: I want more for sure. So the question is what's more? 754 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, after a one for Trials scoring in the 755 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred range, you know, I was just trying 756 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: to get the standard. 757 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 5: I was just trying to get top three. 758 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: I didn't even expect to be able to win it, 759 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: let alone score sixty seven hundred points. 760 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 5: And so. 761 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: For me, it's just like, oh my gosh, it open 762 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: my eyes to what there's more there that ceilings even 763 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: higher than I realize, And let's see how much further 764 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: we can. 765 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 5: Get in three more years. 766 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Like the amount that I've learned in the last you know, 767 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: four or five years in this in this Olympic process 768 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: is just like we talked about, I'm a completely different 769 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: athlete and the knowledge and the mental training and the 770 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: nutrition all of that. So I'm like, I just feel 771 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: like there's so much more in these next couple of 772 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: years that I can get to that level and be 773 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: a metal contender, and that's one of my biggest goals 774 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: for sure. 775 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: And we talked about, you know, and joked a little 776 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: bit about being above average and a lot of these events, 777 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: but of course that would also mean that at times 778 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: you're not going to perform at your very. 779 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 3: Best because there's just so much going on. 780 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: Can you talk to us or maybe shed some light 781 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: on how you've had to pick yourself up after something 782 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: didn't go as planned? 783 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: That is probably, if you talk to any of athlete, 784 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: the biggest struggle of the sport, you know, Going through COVID, 785 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: I found my mental coach, and if I hadn't found him, 786 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd ever figured that out. And 787 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: what he taught me a lot of is like mindfulness 788 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and being present and accepting what is. And that has 789 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: been because I'm just an emotional person in general, Like 790 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, I cried in Monsters, inc. Like I'm an 791 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: emotional person and so battling that when I when I do, 792 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: when I have an event that doesn't go my way 793 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: or I come up short and not stewing in it 794 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: and allowing you to seep into the next event. It 795 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: was really really tough, and it happened at the Olympics, 796 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: like I almost fell in the hurdles first event. 797 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 5: I lost half a second. 798 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I felt like I was like I was leading over 799 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: the four hurdles, clipped one and almost fell. Finished the race, 800 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: but you see me pass the finish line and I 801 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of go like ah dang, and then it's gone. 802 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: Like I didn't hold on to it. 803 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: I accepted what happened, and I legit was just able 804 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: to drop it and move on to the next event. 805 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: And so learning how to be present, learning to accept 806 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: what is and knowing that there, it's in the past. 807 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it. All you can 808 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: do is execute your next event. And I think figuring 809 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: that out is probably the biggest battle. But it's it'll 810 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: what it's going to be what makes you successful in 811 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: the heptathlon, because if you go in heptathlon thinking it's 812 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: all going to go the way you want it to 813 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: and you're going to do amazing in every event, you're 814 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: setting yourself up for failure. I think some of your 815 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: better heptathlons are just going to be your your your average, 816 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: your average of all your events. If you have averages 817 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: of all your events, you're gonna have a great score, 818 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times I was looking 819 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: for those prs in every event, and that's when you 820 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of get in those frustrated moods. And so yeah, 821 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: adapting to that and figuring that out has been the 822 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: reason I think I was actually successful in a lot 823 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. 824 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, obviously so much bigger than heptathlon, right' ohality. 825 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: Oh my fiance is super grateful for that training. It's 826 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: helped us tremendously. 827 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 828 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 5: I mean, and that's the thing that's so cool. 829 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: Sports are amazing, and the medals and you know, the 830 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: championships are great, but it's like, these are the things 831 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: that are going to carry me through in my relationship 832 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: with my family, with my kids, and my job after this. 833 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: This is such a small blip, it feels. It doesn't 834 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: feel that way, but it's such a small whip. 835 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 5: In our life. 836 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: And the lessons and the values that I've learned, I 837 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: think is what I'm most grateful for through this Olympic 838 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: process and the Olympic Olympic journey, because you know, they 839 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: really are priceless things. I'll teach my kids and I'll 840 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: hopefully be able to have them learn them a lot 841 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: sooner than I did and be more successful early. 842 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: So of course, for a huge part of your life, 843 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: you have like gushed over your fiance a few times. 844 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: Now, when are you getting married? I feel like you're 845 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: getting married. 846 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Soon, I thought, So that's that's been the bait in 847 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: this house. I initially was like, let's get married before 848 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: the Olympics. 849 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 5: Let's like do it soon, Like I think, like right 850 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 5: after you got engaged. 851 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: I was talking about getting married like this December, and 852 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: he like his eyes just were huge and he's like. 853 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's so much money. What are you 854 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 5: talking about. 855 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: And now I've sat in it a little bit longer, 856 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: and I think we're actually going to wait, We're gon 857 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: have a long engagement and it's going to be like 858 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: right after Paris. So yeah, I think it'll be, you know, 859 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: be able to close that chapter. It's going to be 860 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: my last Olympic run, hopefully, you know, God William make 861 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: the team and then we can come back, go to Mexico, 862 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: have a week long celebration with family and friends, and 863 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: go on a long honeymoon and enjoy being married. 864 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 5: Because it is just a pressure cooker. 865 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: The year of the Olympics so getting married for I 866 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: don't think would have been the best decision. 867 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: A nice finish line after hopefully your other finish lines. Yes, exactly, 868 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: so exactly Beside obviously this exciting big life event for 869 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: you and the series of life events for you, I'm 870 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: sure that there are other things, and I know that 871 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: there are other things that you deal with in your 872 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 2: life outside of sports. So talk to me about how 873 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: that's been in the scheme of things. How you have 874 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: been able to either make time or show up or 875 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: navigate the hardships that happen when you're not on the track, 876 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: when you're not on the field. 877 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: That's been kind of the cool part about this year 878 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: is navigating those things that I'm not used to and 879 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: like just kind of. 880 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: Living that normal life. And I think it's been good because, you. 881 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: Know, I think when it's you know, whenever you're in something, 882 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: you'reways wishing or thinking about something else, you wish your move, 883 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be on into that next thing or whatever. 884 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I think when I'm in the heat of season and 885 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: like missing out on weddings or missing out on barbecues 886 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: and just casual stuff with friends that I I have 887 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: to say no to a lot. 888 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 5: I'm not drinking. 889 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm just I'm very structured and so to 890 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: have kind of that time this year to live my 891 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: life a little bit and just have a breather and 892 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: enjoy my friends and family, because that's probably the most 893 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: important thing in me to be able to just you know, 894 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: have a Saturday, go walk my dogs down by the beach. 895 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: It's been really nice to kind of recharge and allow 896 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: myself to do that. And I think I struggled allowing 897 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: myself to and I kind of hit that brink from like, Okay, 898 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: I have to lean into this and just let myself 899 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: live a little bit. I'm still working out I'm not 900 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: just like sitting on the couch all day long, but 901 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: lean into refilling my cup that way and then navigating real. 902 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 5: Life stuff has been cool. But it's kind of like 903 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 5: what we just talked about before. 904 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, those lessons and being mindful and present 905 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: and meditation and things like that are carrying me through 906 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: this year and when I don't have that thing that 907 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: has been my identity for so long. So it's been 908 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: super cool and I think it'll help me be really 909 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: excited to get back to the track and more motivated 910 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: for the next two years. 911 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 3: You know. 912 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: I had a registered dietician on the show recently, and 913 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: she was talking about this idea that you know, when 914 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 2: you're trying to quote unquote be good and you don't 915 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: want to eat certain things or drink certain things, and 916 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 2: you go out with friends, and then the whole time 917 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: that you're out with your friends, you're like feeling some 918 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 2: kind of way that you yes, that you were there 919 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: and that you did whatever. And she said that the 920 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: client will then come in and say to her, oh 921 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 2: my god, I did this thing, I eat whatever, blah 922 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: blah blah, and then she'll look at her and she's like, but. 923 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 3: Did you have fun? Like what where was your head? 924 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: At was your head the entire time that you were 925 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: with these people that actually like, we're excited to see you, 926 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: you haven't seen them in a while, And you're sitting 927 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: there and your whole focus is on quote unquote messing 928 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: up with your diet. 929 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: Like that's just like no way that you want to live. 930 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: So for you, how did you squash that inner critic 931 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 2: or get used to cultivating a more positive conversation within 932 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: your own mind? 933 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's just learning to be present, like, 934 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: and I think, and you know, that's what the and 935 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: the thing that's made me so successful in track is 936 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: learning how to be present and then taking that into 937 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: my day to day life. 938 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 5: Now. 939 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: So if I am with friends on a Saturday and 940 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: they're drinking, and I want to have like lean into that, 941 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: like have a couple of drinks. Obviously, don't go black 942 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: out every weekend, you know, like enjoy yourself a little bit. 943 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: And I think it's really tough because we are constantly 944 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: in that battle of you know, anxiety of the future, 945 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: depression of the past, things that like oh my gosh, 946 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I ate that donut, or future things like oh my gosh, 947 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: I ate that donut. And now my workout's going to 948 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: be harder. Oh I had a couple of drinks this weekend. 949 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: Monday's workout's going to be the word. It's like you're 950 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: constant thinking about the future, past instead of just being 951 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: in the moment that you're in. And so I feel 952 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: like that's been what I have to ground myself in 953 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: is like, Okay, put things in perspective. The Olympics aren't tomorrow, 954 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: They're not next month, you know, and I'm still working out. 955 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm still working with at my whole village of people 956 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: that are helping me be successful. But if you don't 957 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: lean into those moments you're gonna be then I'm going 958 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: to be in season. I'm be like God, I wish 959 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed myself it's last summer instead of 960 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: constantly thinking about, you know, this season or this fall 961 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: training or whatever. And so just being present in the 962 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: moment you're in, I feel like has really helped me 963 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: ground and just be able to accept those those moments 964 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: and not be hard on myself. I think the inner 965 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: critic is tough and we're always going to battle that, 966 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: but putting things in perspective and trying to be present 967 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: has helped me for sure. 968 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 2: You talked about how you navigate the quote unquote hurdles 969 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: that could come up in the myriad of events that 970 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: are happening during the heptathlon. 971 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: When you are in the middle of. 972 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: These tough moments and giving something your all, what do 973 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 2: you think of where does your mind go when you're 974 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 2: in that struggle executing? 975 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: So I am constantly you know, I have about two 976 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: to three ques per event that I am just hammering, 977 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: like that's what I go to and I think it's 978 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, you have we call it like monkey brain, 979 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: where you're gonna have all these living thoughts that pop in, 980 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: and it's just learning to you know, look at that thought, 981 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: accept it, and then bring your retention back to your 982 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: executing so you're not trying to deny that it's there. 983 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: You're you're kind of just accepting that it's there and 984 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: then coming back to what you need to execute. And 985 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: that's really helped me, along with a lot of breathing 986 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: exercises that I do. So whether it's shot put and 987 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: I need to calm my central nervous system or it's 988 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: the eight hundred and kind of like trying to put 989 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: myself up. I feel like I have a lot of 990 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: tools like breathing and queues and things like that that 991 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: kind of bring me to center. And then I also 992 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: I think if I go into those moments where you're 993 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: feeling anxiety or fear, I think fear can be debilitating, 994 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: And especially at my moment like the Olympics, I ground 995 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: myself in gratitude and so like even at the Olympic trials, 996 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: like if that fear of not making the team was 997 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: popping in, or my fear of coming up short in 998 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: an event, or just look at the crowd and see 999 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: my family and be like, I am so grateful that 1000 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: I have this opportunity no matter what happens, and just 1001 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: kind of letting go and allowing yourself. 1002 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 5: To execute and be in the moment. I think, just 1003 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 5: help me be successful for sure. 1004 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: For sure. 1005 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: So someone comes to maybe your Instagram page and they 1006 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: see an olympian, a heptathlete with over sixty thousand followers. 1007 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: When you look in the mirror, what does Annie see? 1008 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, getting deep with me here? 1009 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, I think that it's funny to talk about 1010 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: that because I think that if I look back, you know, 1011 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: one of the toughest lessons I think you have to 1012 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: learn is like you are more than your sport and 1013 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: more than what I do. And that took a while 1014 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: for me to figure out. And i'd be lying to 1015 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: you if you know I think you still I still 1016 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: struggle with. 1017 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 3: That a little bit. 1018 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: But I think that's what's been so special about this 1019 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 1: year is figuring out who is Annie when that thing 1020 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: that has made me me for so. 1021 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 5: Long is gone? 1022 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: And I you know, I love my dog, I'm free. 1023 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 5: I'm a Frenchy lover. I love my dogs. 1024 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: I love spending time with family. I have my two 1025 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: god children that I am just obsessed with. I can't 1026 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: wait to have kids and be a mom someday. So 1027 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: I think just figuring out what makes me happy when 1028 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: that thing isn't there, you know, finding little hobbies and 1029 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: things like that, like crafts and redecorating my house. 1030 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 5: I love doing that stuff. 1031 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,959 Speaker 1: So things like that I'm just really leaning into too, 1032 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: so that when that thing has gone permanently, that I 1033 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: know who I am and I'm not going to have 1034 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: that struggle of my identity. 1035 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 5: For a while. 1036 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 3: What excites you right now? 1037 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I mean the future. 1038 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: I think what's exciting to me is seeing, you know, 1039 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: what else I can do in the sport, how far 1040 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: I can push my body once I'm healed. I think 1041 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: that's super super exciting, just you know, life stuff. I'm 1042 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: so excited that I'm finally engaged. You know, we've we've 1043 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: been together almost five years. Looking forward to that next 1044 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: chapter and then kids. I can't wait to have babies. 1045 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: All of my friends have kids, so it's like it's 1046 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: birth control sometimes but then sometimes like oh, but they're 1047 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: so cute, Like it's like baby fever, but also birth control, 1048 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: so I think that's super exciting. When the Olympics are over, 1049 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna have kids soon. And then also just 1050 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: I think leading into the younger generation of girls in 1051 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: athletes I think as something that I'm really passionate about, 1052 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: and I would love to get involved with more organizations 1053 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: or even like start my own camp someday or something 1054 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: like that where I can give back to those young athletes, 1055 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: because you know, kids are the future. And if I 1056 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: knew half the stuff I know now at a younger age, 1057 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been successful so much sooner. 1058 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: So to be able to share that knowledge is something 1059 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: I'm really passionate about as well. 1060 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 3: The stuff that you wish that you knew sooner. 1061 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: Anything when you think about a younger you, that you 1062 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: wish that someone kind of filled you in on from 1063 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: the get go. 1064 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 5: I think be present, I mean being present. 1065 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I look back at you know, college, 1066 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: or like especially college, and just like that experience, I 1067 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: was constantly living in anxiety or depression of things that 1068 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: have already happened or might happen, and I just wasn't 1069 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: in the moment, and it goes by so fast too, 1070 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: Like and even high school I had such an amazing experience, 1071 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I was ever fully present, 1072 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: So it goes by so quick, and those memories are 1073 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: so precious that I wish someone would have tried to 1074 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: help me to like learn meditation and mind fullness and 1075 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: being present in those moments, because I just feel like 1076 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: I would have been able to take them in a 1077 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: little bit more and then also be more successful and 1078 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: be in the moment that I am in. So that's 1079 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: probably the biggest piece of advice I wish I could 1080 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: give my younger self, which just like, be in the 1081 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: moment you're in. 1082 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: I feel like, what's that O they're saying, it's run 1083 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 3: the race you're in. 1084 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, run your race. 1085 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: Run run your own run your race, run your race. 1086 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 2: Where do you garner your inspiration and motivation from? Does 1087 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: it really come just rooted from your village? 1088 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 3: M hmm. 1089 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: I think it does, But I also think that's just me, 1090 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: Like you know, I have I think I got high 1091 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: school interview. 1092 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 5: They're like, what do you like where? What do you 1093 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 5: want to do when you grow up? And like I 1094 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 5: want to go to the. 1095 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: Olympics, Like I've just always kind of had that inner drive, 1096 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: and my parents and said that too, like they've never 1097 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: had to push me really with with like you know, 1098 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: athletics or my academics. 1099 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 5: Even I was. 1100 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: Always just kind of getting my stuff done because I 1101 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: innately wanted to do it and I wanted to push myself. 1102 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: And I think what motivates me the most is just 1103 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: seeing what I can do, how far can I push 1104 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 1: my body? 1105 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 5: What can I do in this sport? Like I want 1106 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 5: to find that out. 1107 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: I want to see how high my ceiling is in 1108 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: the sport. And I think because I was so late 1109 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: to the heptathlon, it's been so exciting and I feel 1110 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: like there's so much more to learn still, So seeing 1111 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: how much I can learn, seeing how fer I can 1112 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: push my body and what I can do in the 1113 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: sport definitely motivates me. 1114 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: I also find it pretty admirable. 1115 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 2: I know that you're stopping in Eugene next week to 1116 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: go and be there and support and also just like 1117 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 2: kind of show face, is that difficult for you at all? 1118 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: You know? 1119 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: I thought it would be harder, actually, I thought when 1120 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, when that opportunity was given to me, I 1121 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I wonder. Like at in the moment, 1122 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that sounds super exciting, 1123 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: But then I kind of sat and I'm like, oh, well, 1124 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: that'd be kind of depressing, Like well if that'd be hard. 1125 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: But I think just it goes back to like putting 1126 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: things in perspective, Like the moment that I'm in right 1127 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: now is getting healthy and building that foundation for the future. 1128 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: The moment that other athletes are in, they might be 1129 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: they're having their best year yet and they're to go, 1130 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, contend for a metal and like that's awesome 1131 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: for them. 1132 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 5: Like, it's just different. 1133 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: And I think you have to stop comparing yourself to 1134 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: other athletes and things like that and build each other 1135 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: up because we're all in the same struggle. 1136 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: We're all just doing our best. We all want to. 1137 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: Be successful, and so I think if you're hoping and 1138 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: wishing that other people aren't successful because you want to 1139 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: be in that role, is just setting yourself up for 1140 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: failure too. So I try to just you know, live 1141 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: in the moment that I'm in and be happy for 1142 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: others because that's there, this might be their moment, So 1143 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: just kind of accepting that. 1144 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 2: I think in our conversation today, you reflected so openly 1145 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 2: and beautifully about you know, taking that backseat and taking 1146 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 2: that backstep and using this time to your advantage instead 1147 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 2: of thinking of it as a disadvantage. So right now 1148 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice. 1149 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: At the beginning of this hurdle moment for you, when 1150 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 2: you found out that you were going to have to 1151 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: slow down, what would you tell yourself with the know 1152 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: how that you have now. 1153 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, learn from your past experiences, because I look 1154 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: back at COVID and you know, in the moment, it 1155 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: felt awful, it was depressing, it was hard, but it's 1156 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: the year that define me as an athlete, and I 1157 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: was out there doing you know, I was sneaking into 1158 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: parks by myself and I was I was taking that 1159 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: time to get better. And so I think looking back 1160 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: on that experience and reminding yourself like, Okay, I look 1161 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: at what you did with that time, look at how 1162 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: you use your time. Then it's different. Now you can't 1163 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: do the same things. But leaning into everything happens for 1164 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: a specific purpose and reason and knowing that and believing 1165 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: that and trusting that is what I would say to 1166 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: myself because you've done it before, you can do it again. 1167 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 2: You've done it before, you can do it again. Annie, 1168 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to make this happen. 1169 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: How do the hurdlers follow along with you? How do 1170 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: they keep up with you? Give us your details? 1171 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, it's been so fun. 1172 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: I am on Instagram mostly Annie Underscore Cooon seven. I'm 1173 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter Annie Underscorecoon, but I am more active on 1174 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: Instagram for sure. I'm on TikTok, but I feel like 1175 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: a geriatric with that stuff, Like I don't. 1176 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 5: Know how to work it. What's the seven for? I 1177 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 5: was number seven in college. That was my soccer number. 1178 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 2: Ha ha Okay, well, I am over at Emily Body 1179 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys 1180 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: next time,