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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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<v Speaker 2>televisions with over ten years of production experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Once a week from Reality with the King, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we

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<v Speaker 2>are still talking and tweeting.

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<v Speaker 1>About this watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, rain Drops, I mean, do I even need to

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<v Speaker 2>do an introduction?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe I do because Mistik is Bang Gig Honey, Yay, Jasmine,

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<v Speaker 1>Hilly Bron.

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<v Speaker 3>But the banks, but the bang, Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so happy to be here with the King again.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for your bank. So what brought on this? Look?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'm in my NICKI Minaj era, Okay, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 3>for Pink Friday the album.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready for Pink Friday the perfume. I'm just ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have thrown through in a little pink for

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<v Speaker 3>all me exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm boways ready for Pink Friday. Nicki Minaj And.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call you jazz chun Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you Roman?

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<v Speaker 4>I you know I am not Jasmine, I am Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 4>You I've had not already.

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about my love for nick Managh.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know this?

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<v Speaker 3>When I was at your home and you were getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready and you were like, I'm about to listen to music,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what are you going to listen to? You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>Nicki Minaj, I'm like, that's when I knew. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I knew from my first conversation, but it was at

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<v Speaker 3>that moment I was like my discernment.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew it. I knew we were going to see

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<v Speaker 4>each other. I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Jasmine, I'm Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 2>You better give me a romance revenge featuring him. This

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<v Speaker 2>episode is already off to a good start. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>we're laughing because I don't think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>laughing for the rest of this conversation because today we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about the Royal Housewahs of Potomac and rain drops.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so you know, Jazzmin.

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<v Speaker 2>Is on her YouTube hosting podcast ish. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>watched her, go to her YouTube channel. She is amazing

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok. Please support my girl. She is doing what

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<v Speaker 2>she's destined to do. And what I told Miss thinks like,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be really doing this, Jass. You're really good,

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<v Speaker 2>Like come behind the scenes and show the world that

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<v Speaker 2>this gorgeous black girl is capable of being multifaceteds.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so proud of you. Just know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Uncle Los. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do.

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<v Speaker 4>I genuinely appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have been one of the people that's been like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>stop producing. You're great at producing, but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>you really can do. So I really appreciate the push.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But on Sunday night, your TikTok video went viral.

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<v Speaker 3>The Real Housewives of Potomac is so uncomfortable to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a fun show to watch anymore. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I am watching a group of enemies being

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<v Speaker 3>forced to be in a room together, and it's starting

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<v Speaker 3>to become uncomfortable. Okay, this neco girl comes in and

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<v Speaker 3>starts saying this stuff about Wendy and Giselle, Robin Mia.

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<v Speaker 3>They all just believe her word is bond and it's

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<v Speaker 3>all due to their shared hatred for Wendy. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>also so it's uncomfortable to watch them gang up on Wendy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also very uncomfortable to watch them all Ice Canvas out,

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<v Speaker 3>I do not see a future with this cast.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned how the Real Housewives of Potomac is

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<v Speaker 2>becoming unwatchable, and you gave your reasons and a little

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<v Speaker 2>thing for my rain drops. I wasn't going to recap

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<v Speaker 2>Potomac this season because I did not want to suffer

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<v Speaker 2>through another season of me saying something's off. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Jasmine's tweet, I say, you know what, If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about this, I want to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with my girl who told me on this very podcast

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<v Speaker 2>last year that she wasn't going to watch it, that

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't she does not think the women like each other. Jasmine,

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<v Speaker 2>take it away, what are your thoughts on this currency?

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<v Speaker 2>We're only a few episodes in, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>indicative of what to.

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<v Speaker 1>Expect because I don't. I don't see it getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>But share your thoughts on the Real Housewives of Potomac

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<v Speaker 2>thus far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I feel like this is a deja vu moment

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<v Speaker 3>because I, like you mentioned, I remember being on this

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<v Speaker 3>very podcast talking about how last season it was feeling

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<v Speaker 3>too dark and I just couldn't go on. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>feeling the same thing, and I told myself I just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna clock out of Potomac, right. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a few girls that I really really like on there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was just going to clock out of it

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<v Speaker 3>as a show. But I was sitting and waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>the best show on Bravo. Married to Medicine to premiere. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, you know what, while I'm waiting,

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<v Speaker 3>while I'm waiting for my girls, I'm Married to Medicine,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna see what Potomac is talking about for season.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight and the first episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I made a TikTok video about that their first episode

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<v Speaker 3>compared to Married to Medicine's premiere episode was very boring

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you put it up against Mary Smithson had

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<v Speaker 3>a phenomenal premiere, right, so in comparison and make Potomac

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<v Speaker 3>just look a little strange. But I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Potomac has some interesting storylines that I see them kind

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<v Speaker 3>of laying the breadcrumbs for.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna follow it.

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<v Speaker 3>But here we are, I think, with three or four

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<v Speaker 3>episodes in, and I'm just like, I'm getting that same

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<v Speaker 3>feeling again that I got last season of it, just

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<v Speaker 3>feeling uncomfortable. It feels disjointed. These ladies are more fractured

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<v Speaker 3>than they've ever been. Okay, I feel like I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>Candice on a completely different show than the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>these ladies, and I don't like to see it. I

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<v Speaker 3>hated the scene in this last episode with them like

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<v Speaker 3>ganging up on Wendy because Mecca and I hope I'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying her name correctly, Neka because she she said something

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<v Speaker 3>about the voodoo with Wendy's mom, and I'm like, if

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<v Speaker 3>that was a rumor about anybody else, they would want

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<v Speaker 3>to investigate it a little more because they but because

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<v Speaker 3>they all have a shared hatred of Wendy. Nekka's word

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<v Speaker 3>is bond. Y'all just met her two seconds ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden. What she says says is correct.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving me and girls and someone on Twitter really

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<v Speaker 3>somedom my feelings. They were like, it triggered me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I think that's what it was to.

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<v Speaker 3>It triggered me because I remember being my middle school,

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<v Speaker 3>high school and having like a click of friends and

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<v Speaker 3>then one person decides they don't like you, and they

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<v Speaker 3>turned a whole click against you, and now it's uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>when we sitting at the lunch table. That's what Potomac

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<v Speaker 3>is giving, so uncomfortable, not really feeling it so far.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing about the first episode. I gave it a

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<v Speaker 2>ten out of a ten. I did not compare to

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<v Speaker 2>the excellent premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>You're always so generous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you why because some people said yes

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<v Speaker 2>and some people said, Carlos, you are way too generous.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciated the fact that they gave us what I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for, which was focus on Robin and Wan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about the other ladies have this at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. I want Robin and Wan to have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want Giselle to hold Robin's feet to the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I want these women to really have a real conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with her.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw Sharise get choked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Relating relating her experience with her ex husband to Wan,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, this is real. They're finally having a

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<v Speaker 2>real moment. It's not about these rumors somebody husband's cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it for the sheer factor of I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to see the aftermath of the Robin and Wan saga,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all I wanted, so I as a viewer, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very happy with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then came episode two, then three, and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. Well, you and I both watched, which

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<v Speaker 2>was this pickleball scene, and even prior to that, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to watch a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the cast don't speak to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a red flag for Okay, we know that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are getting paid to be around each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the gag. We already know that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here as a reality TV kingpin. Okay to tell the kingpin, Honey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Kik of reality Baby at this point called

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<v Speaker 2>me the kingpin. I am somebody who can say to

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<v Speaker 2>you all. Yes, it's challenging when the group is at

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<v Speaker 2>a discourse where.

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<v Speaker 1>They just aren't able to really come together.

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<v Speaker 2>However, that's when you have to step in and remind

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<v Speaker 2>them of the bigger picture and work with them to

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<v Speaker 2>get to a happy medium. Seeing Wendy walk into scenes

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<v Speaker 2>and Gizill's not speaking to her, Cana's not speaking to Gizel,

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<v Speaker 2>They're not speaking to Robin, and it's they're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>to each other and what you said when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Mecca. The unfortunate part is this, Neka, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to listen to me loud and clear. You're

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<v Speaker 2>losing this game already because I know nothing about you

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<v Speaker 2>besides the fact that you're coming from Wendy. You have

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<v Speaker 2>this handsome husband who I'm very intrigued with. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see y'all lifestyle. Yes, I understand Nika doesn't control

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<v Speaker 2>the editing, and we'll get to that part later. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things where I would have said

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody, Look, I don't feel comfortable having a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about my heritage and what I'm hearing with these ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>I will. I'll give y'all what y'all want the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think me and Wendy need to do it one

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<v Speaker 2>on one, because I at least want to give her

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt and have some grace. When

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<v Speaker 2>she called Wendy a bitch, I said, you have studied

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV for fifteen year years, you study Potomac, you

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<v Speaker 2>watched Meanie Leek's Highlight Rail, and now you want to

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<v Speaker 2>become a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>She was giving fan from the first scene. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, either she came in with an agenda to

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<v Speaker 3>feud with Wendy for the approval that damn Giselle Bryant.

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<v Speaker 3>Every girl that comes to this show. Giselle is Regina George.

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<v Speaker 3>Every girl that comes to this show wants the approval

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<v Speaker 3>of Joselle exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Look cheers to that Barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>You are your Barbie.

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<v Speaker 3>I am very unbrand, but right, everybody that comes to

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<v Speaker 3>this show. They want the approval of Giselle, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I think Neka watched this she came in with an agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, I'm going for Wendy because it's easy, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a low hanging fruit. But I wanted them to be

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<v Speaker 3>a dynamic duo. When I heard there was another her, beautiful,

0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.319
<v Speaker 3>successful Nigerian girl, I said, Oh, that's that's the takedown.

0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.920
<v Speaker 3>We need Wendy and this girl boom together. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>we're not gonna get that, and it's really disappointing. But

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<v Speaker 3>one feel like Nika came in with an agenda to

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<v Speaker 3>specifically get into with Wendy because it's low hanging fruit

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<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna put her in favor with Giselle and then,

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<v Speaker 3>by proxy, the rest of the cast that doesn't like Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and I'm gonna go step further with you.

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<v Speaker 2>The basis of their beef is very Mariah Carey. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know her right, that seems to be the basis

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<v Speaker 2>of this beef. So to remind the audience Ashley, who

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<v Speaker 2>who by far is the most unlikable, messiest, boring housewife

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<v Speaker 2>this genre has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley, you said what.

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<v Speaker 4>I said I talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, has nothing going on without Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with Michael, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Still didn't enjoy her as much because she never gave

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<v Speaker 2>anything of substance. Ashley belongs on the Disney Channel auditioning

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<v Speaker 2>for Pokemon or The Little Mermaid and being down in

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<v Speaker 2>the sea, and just because she's she's a pretty girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You know she's a pretty girl. You're not a reality

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<v Speaker 2>star because you don't have the ability to be real.

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<v Speaker 1>You are there as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure to be messy and don't have the substance to

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<v Speaker 2>back it up. Like anyways, whatever, So Ashley, because girl,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I can keep going further. Ashley had a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Mecca and Nika said, yeah, Wendy knows me,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's acting like she doesn't know me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Wendy's like, I met her, I don't know her.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we found out that Eddie allegedly unfollowed Mecca's husband.

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<v Speaker 2>And then then when Mecca's husband tried to check Eddie,

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie's like, I don't know you, but have we met?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know you, but have we met? Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>I met you?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever I saw that, I say that to say, this, Jasmine,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I believe happened. Allegedly, when you cast

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<v Speaker 2>a new person on a reality show, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>come in through somebody when they're auditioning. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>I believe happened. When Mecca was auditioning for Potomac, she

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<v Speaker 2>told the producers allegedly, oh, I know Indy. I know Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>and my husband actually knows Eddie. They went to the

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<v Speaker 2>same school together. And then the producer said, oh my gosh, hey, Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know Mekka who Nekka so and so. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we met once or twice, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>her like that. Well, can you bring her in? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bringing her in. I got somebody else I

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<v Speaker 2>could bring in who I'm cool with. Yes, Jasmin reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy was probably like, nah, I don't know her like that.

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<v Speaker 2>To bring her in us my friend, because I know

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<v Speaker 2>how this show works. No, I'm not gonna co sign her. No,

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<v Speaker 2>And then it got listen, I'm not gonna say who

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<v Speaker 2>said it.

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<v Speaker 1>It got brought back to Neka.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Wendy says, she don't know you like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how this beef started. Wendy probably went it to

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<v Speaker 2>our sister Yeah, they're trying to have this girl come

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<v Speaker 2>on the show with me. I don't know her like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it became this big thing. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I am group gooped and gagged because that holds up

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<v Speaker 3>as a theory, and it would make sense because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, her beef with Wendy seems so intense. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems really intense, and I'm like, there has to be

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<v Speaker 3>something else that makes so much sense to me. And

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you you know, Carlos, we probably all know

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<v Speaker 3>who told Okka that Wendy said she didn't know hers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's a big secret. How are you

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<v Speaker 3>doing Gazelle?

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<v Speaker 4>Either Jazelle or Ashley did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, it probably was actually because Gazelle does not talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them. Look, I get it, I get I.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a question for you, though, Carlosa.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been wondering as a viewer, and I would love

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<v Speaker 3>your expert honesty on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it required like our new incoming.

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<v Speaker 3>Housewives required to like watch some of the season that

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be on or have some working knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>of it, because I noticed a lot of them claim

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<v Speaker 3>to never watch the show until they get cast and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm not buying that, but I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear from the expert. Do they have to know or

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<v Speaker 3>is it something they just kind of take and learn

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<v Speaker 3>on their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'll preface this by saying what I used

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<v Speaker 2>to do, because everybody changes and has been the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started. The answer was we prefer you didn't watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It because we wanted you to come in without having

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<v Speaker 2>preconceived notions. That's why when you used to watch Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>post Kenya, every new girl came in coming for Kenya

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<v Speaker 2>because they watched the show. And that's no secret. So

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<v Speaker 2>to answer your question, it's not a requirement. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I was producing Housewives, I and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>producers would say, please don't watch it, like, come in

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<v Speaker 2>and form your own relationships. Now, what is a requirement

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.560
<v Speaker 2>when you are a new housewife. You must be introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to the cast by somebody who you may have met

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.199
<v Speaker 2>five minutes before filming. Now that is tea and that

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<v Speaker 2>is facts. And that's why I strongly believe they said

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<v Speaker 2>to your point, oh possibly, how dope would it be

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<v Speaker 2>to have two Nigerian women men come in together? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would have been great. What I believe

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<v Speaker 2>happened was Wendy wanted to bring in her friend who

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<v Speaker 2>we have now seen on the show, rightfully so, because

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that this person has my back.

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<v Speaker 2>Due to the fact that Potomac is not a show

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<v Speaker 2>about friendships, and I hope I'm not saying anything that

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<v Speaker 2>is shocking. Potomac is not about friendships. Potomac is a

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<v Speaker 2>social experiment about how we can get along for a

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<v Speaker 2>paycheck and what secrets can we uncover with everyone else

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and play along to get along so we can get

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<v Speaker 2>paid along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be real with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Something in my spirit disturbed me when I saw the men,

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw Necka's husband trying to chomp Eddie, Like, what, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are we that bored to where we are following this

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<v Speaker 2>weird based on the fact that Wendy just did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring on Nekka as her girl. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>we're Nigerian doesn't mean I need to bring her on.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's two ways to look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, though, I'm going to say no direspect

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<v Speaker 3>to Wendy and no disrespect to my man. Y'all better

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<v Speaker 3>leave Eddie alone. Leave Eddie alone, period.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting that out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is, I mean the flip side of

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<v Speaker 3>this is if that is the case in Mekka has

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<v Speaker 3>a vendetta against Wendy because Wendy didn't want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>her on. I do question why Wendy didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>bring her on because what I know of Nigerian folks

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<v Speaker 3>is Wendy Nekka Nigerian sisters. Right, That's how I've come

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 3>to know of Nigerian people and how they get down.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am curious to know why Wendy wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be the one to usher in a new Nigerian Battie.

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Did she not want the competition? So then that lends

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of credibility. So potentially what Nika was

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 3>saying about Wendy's people like calling around because maybe they

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't want another Nigeria and Battie on the show. I

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 3>think it was right for a takeover. But both sides

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 3>to me, there's the waters are murky because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I speak for the viewers right, Yes, we are viewing

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<v Speaker 3>the show and so many people like me are watching

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're wondering has production put Nekka up to this

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 3>because they're trying to phase Wendy out or just create

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 3>a scene where Wendy doesn't want to return or doesn't

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 3>want to film as much. Like it's been said that

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<v Speaker 3>this production company particularly plays favorites on Potomac, and that

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 3>favorite is not Wendy. So there's a theory now that

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<v Speaker 3>production brought Neka in just to rival Wendy.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have any insight on that?

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any insight on that at all. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't and I try not to ask my friends

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<v Speaker 2>in production because I don't want. I mean number one

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>with this podcast, honey, and how successful it is, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to ass Bill.

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I won't talk to me anyway, child.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, if they even are allowed to talk

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>to you about anything outside of them here, how are.

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<v Speaker 2>You so I don't know about the production aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this much based on what I've been seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing has been happening this season. And this is the

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 2>one time they had an argument. Giselle's checked out, Robin's

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 2>checked out. She even said that like, I don't care,

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Karen is just trying to make sure

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>she gets paid Candice is checked out. Wendy has the

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 2>potential to be a force multiplier Wendy because Wendy has

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>this this leaderships characteristic, this quality of she's beautiful, she's smart,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and she when she walks into the room, you notice her.

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Wendy has a lot of potential to be in charge

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>of the girls. But two things are happening, which is

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>why when it comes to Potomac, and that's why I'm

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 2>very specific when I talk about the essence.

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Of that particular show.

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>That particular show does not do a good job at

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:19.479
<v Speaker 2>being friends off camera.

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>They just don't.

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>And because it is Giselle Brian's show, and because Giselle

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Bryant to me is everyone's favorite, everybody's favorite that's involved

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>with the show, I think it's hard for other girls

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to shine because they know that. I think Candace has

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>great potential to be a Kenya Moore. I believe that

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Wendy's and candace light are being dimmed because everybody.

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Wants to make sure Giselle shines and that she's the light.

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<v Speaker 3>So then should production be removed? Should we should Bravo

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<v Speaker 3>move this production company?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, and.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm asking for the people want to know they have

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>the right to know.

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay, no looks.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I think there needs to be this is what I

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>do know.

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 2>I think there needs to be an overall conversation about

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>what direction are we taking this show?

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I will never just blame a production company.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I think I think there's so much hands in this

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 2>pot that you really have to It's sort of like

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 2>when somebody emvestles your money in Bezzel.

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>In Bezel.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Black China, who was Nicki Minacha's alter ego of the

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Master videol, So everything goes back to Nicki, Yes, who

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>hosted the Potomac.

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Reunion full circle moment.

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Barbes, We're here for you. Guys. When you

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in Bezzel, someone's money.

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>The FBI and the accounting always has followed the money

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>because when you follow the money and you know who

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the culprit is.

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to that production and the.

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Cast who is involved, you have to follow where it steamps,

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:09.959
<v Speaker 2>like where it's rotting, because this cast is disjointed and

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>it shows, and this show cannot continue with this particular cast.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think changes have to be made, but you

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 2>got to follow who's making it disjointed and to be

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>honest with you, and I'm just being very real. I

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know who that is. It could be a cast member,

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 2>it could be somebody just involved saying we, let's I

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>saw Wendy and Candace and let's not ever film with them,

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>because if you don't film with Windy or Candace, then

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>by proxy, they have to be removed.

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for Candace my spirit.

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>When I watch this show, this particular season, I think

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Candace is the most unprotected housewife, second to Kenymore, who

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>get back into the show. I think Candice, who came

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 2>on our podcast, right Jazz on the podcast love her

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>down even you was like I like, I'm like, no,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>she's dope.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Wendy. When Wendy came the podcast, We're like, oh, we.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 3>But to your point, I can also speaking of people

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 3>coming on the podcast, Giselle came on the podcast, and

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I say this to anybody who like because I have friends.

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 4>Who are like, girl, I can't stay Griselle.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Giselle is hard to dislike when you meet her,

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 3>like on the show, it's very easy to call her

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 3>what she is on the show. Meeting Giselle is it's

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 3>really hard to dislike her. I dare anybody to meet

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 3>her and chop it over her and then walk away

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 3>and say you dislike her.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 4>It's really hard to do period.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's the reason why I fight for Gazelle because

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>of what you just said. I know who she is

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>on a personal level, and last season I kept saying

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to Gazelle via our personal conversations that I will not

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>disclose in addition to on the podcast, I want Gazelle

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 2>to be who she is in real life.

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>That's all I want.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Gazelle in real life, who you experienced behind the scenes

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>as a producer. You were like, she's cool as shit.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I know, I love Gazelle. That's my

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>point that I'm making this. The essence of this show

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>is not built to make these people shine in a

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>real way. And the reason why I said Candice is

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the most unprotected housewife second to Kenya Moore, is because

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>this woman prayed for the gig, she got the gig.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>She can read like a librarian, and she's beautiful, and

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>she's talented, and she has all of these great qualities.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Yet her light.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Is so damned that when she's in Seene, you can

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>tell she feels uncomfortable. You can tell it's uncomfortable for

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Wendy to walk into Ashley's party having to like hug

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Karen and then walk by Giselle and then walk by

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Mia and then missing Sharise.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And then be like, Oh, I'm sorry, but I don't

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>want to touch this.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>It's this show needs a motherfucking reboot. It's disgusting to watch.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm over it. It's it's I don't want to see

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>this level of this jointedness on a show where we

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>want these women to have fun and they're.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Not having fun.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Going back to Candace, Candace is the most quintessential

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 3>housewife as we know them on Potomac. Okay, she is

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 3>literally she's married, she has a husband, Okay, she has

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>a career that is budding that we get to see,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 3>so we get to follow a lot of her personal story.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Her family dynamic is super interesting, and she was willing

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>to show us that and still is willing to talk

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>about her finances, like Miss Dorothy asking her how Chris

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 3>is getting paid. The other girls would have shot away

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 3>from Candace is willing to give that to you. Okay,

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>She's bringing looks like beautiful girl, educated, comes from the

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>pageant world, comes from a well to do black family,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>which is why I'm always gonna stand her because we

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 3>don't get to see that allot on television.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 4>And like you said, she can read.

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 3>That's everything we want, that's every characteristic in a housewife

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 3>that we want. And for some reason she is not

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>seen as the favorite through production. The way people were

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 3>trying to eat me up for writing for her. It

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 3>seems like some of the viewers are really conflicted with

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>how they feel Candace to me quintessential housewife. She is

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 3>the closest to it, like a housewife prototype on Potomac

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 3>oh one hundred percent.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's sad because Wendy and Candace to me could

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>be the future of Potomac because everything you said, Saint David, Wendy,

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>She's a doctor, she's educated, her husband is gorgeous, her

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>kids are beautiful, her mom is interesting and entertaining. She

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>has this this juxtaposition of I'm a I'm a doctor,

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>but I low key want to be a thought sometimes

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>by the way I dress like. And we talked about

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>that on my podcast and remember what she said on

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the podcast Jasmine.

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>She said, Carlos, I was raised.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>To be the most educated and to be a doctor,

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and I never got a chance to experience who I am.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>So when you see me doing the candles and all

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>this other stuff, no I'm not.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not faking it. You're single woman figuring it out.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>And I said, that makes so much sense to me,

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and I want to it is what you said.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to see that.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>The Potomac is built on how many arguments can we have,

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>how much shade can we throw?

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And yes, we want to see that, and we like it.

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Let all be we like it, but we like that

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to be forty percent of the entertainment in the episode.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>But we really want to see personal story, personal conversations.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>We want to see friendships being funny.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>The reason why we love freaking fract Phedra and Porsche

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was not because they had beep, is because when all

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the cats were arguing, they have funny side commentary.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>They were funny.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Our favorite trip in Atlanta history is Savannah season six,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>because the girls had fun and they got along and

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>they spoke about real conversations. Potomac has never in the

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>eight seasons and tell me if I'm wrong. Jasmin, tell

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>me a moment where Potomac had an episode where all

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the women got along, had real conversations and leaned on

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>each other.

0:32:55.680 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember. I don't recall, but to be fair,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 4>my memory just isn't the greatest.

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, it doesn't exist.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>In the words of Johnny cochrane, if it doesn't fit,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it must have quit. So I'm gonna say this, if

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exist, it must have quit.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you something you are wrong about.

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh tell me.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't think Wendy is a force multiplier.

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I say, it has potential to be.

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't think she has potential to be.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't think this is the vehicle for I

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>said this last time. I don't think this is the

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 3>proper vehicle for Wendy. One thing I will tell you

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 3>about Wendy when I watch her with her family, it's

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>my favorite. That's my favorite win right there, watching her

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>with her family, watching her just figure things out. I

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 3>respect that so much because not enough people have the

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>tenacity to think about something or have a new interest

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and see it all the way through, like Wendy if

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 3>she says today I'm joining the circus, We're going to

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 3>watch her become a fucking clown. Okay, She's gonna see

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 3>it through to the end. So I respect that so

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>much because not enough people, not enough people are that.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 3>But Wendy always feels like she is on the defense

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>from day one, from the time she was introduced to

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the has And I guess this is kind of a

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>bad thing because she wasn't introduced season one, episode one,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 3>so she already came in with some preconceived notions. So

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 3>she came in with the four degrees, I'm a doctor,

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>addressed me as.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Such, all of that.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 3>I have always felt like Wendy walks into a room

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and you're right, strikingly beautiful.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 4>You notice she's there.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 3>But on Potomac, when she's being recorded, it feels like

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>she walks into a room preparing to have to read

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>somebody or preparing to argue in a lot of it

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 3>is because of how they treat her right. But that's

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 3>why I can't say she has potentially be a false

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>multiple force multiplier because I haven't seen her outside of

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 3>defense mode. Like my friend Diamond said the same thing,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 3>There's not been a time where we've seen Wendy just

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 3>be able to relax in Wendy, and that is why,

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 3>to me, she doesn't have potentially be a force multiplier,

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>because a force multiplier I'm coming in on my own

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>terms period period.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, no, I definitely see your point, but this

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>is what I will say to you in response to

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that she was never giving the space to do so.

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, you made a great point of Giselle being the favorite.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 3>No one who does have potential, we might not ever

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 3>see it.

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 4>You're an executive producer.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 3>The kingpin of reality TV, so you see these ladies

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 3>through a different lens than most of us do, right,

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 3>so we aren't able to see through what production is

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 3>showing us, which brings me to my next point when

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 3>we ask when we talk about who is to blame,

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a three tier blaming system here. Okay,

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 3>I think the cast, the girls, they are to blame. Yes,

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think production is to blame. Yes, because production can

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 3>only production can do a lot. But it goes back

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 3>to the women because they can only edit around the

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>content that they get, so they're not getting good content.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 3>Then they just have to work with what they got.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think the third one, and I know I'm

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna get jumped for this. It's on us as the viewers,

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I think a lot of it has. Yes, I

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>think the fandom. I think we've become very toxic and

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 3>very mean to these ladies. We've become a bit unhinged,

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's forcing them to act.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to.

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Really show who they truly are because they are fearful

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 3>of like how people are going to respond to that.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like every season, people pick one housewife that they

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 3>hate and they try to like ruin her life, and like,

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 3>if I'm on TV, I'm gonna like pull back too,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, I don't want to give you all

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 3>this ammunition with my family, with my career, because the

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 3>day you decide you hate me, you're gonna try to

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 3>take all of that down. And like a lot of

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 3>that is on us as viewers. So I think there's,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, a three tier blaming system, and you know,

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 3>just as as a fandom, I think we can do better.

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 4>And myself included, Yeah, no, I agree with that.

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that, And what I will speak to

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 2>is your is your second point about the production aspect

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>of it as well, because this is what I will say.

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think when I spoke about this before, I

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>know when my cast is in trouble, let's just go

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 2>back to a lane of housewives.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I said this to you.

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I was extremely tired of Kenya versus Phedra and on

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the Philippines trip season seven.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I locked them both in the room.

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>And I said, you two have to figure this out

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>because I cannot endure another season, nor can my audience

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of YouTube beefing or it's something where Apollo admitted he

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>lies about move on like it was season eight. I'm sorry,

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>move on, We're exhausted. And they literally had this emotional scene.

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I remember telling Nini season six, the premiere episode of

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>season six, since they had a white party and Nini

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and Nini and Kenya got this, have this funny change

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 2>about Nini inviting Walter to the wedding and blah blah blah,

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 2>and Nini said, no, bitch is gonna tell me who

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I can cannot invite. Right that was episode one. By

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>episode two, you saw Nini bring Kenya. This one makes

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you just have this argument with around the girls because

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I said to Nini, I can't have Kenya being I style.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>You are sorry, ladies, I did say this to her,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and I will admit it.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Nini, this is your show. This is your show.

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 2>You have to bring Kenya around the girls, because when

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:42.439
<v Speaker 2>the girls see you visually walk in with Kenya, they're

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, okay.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess we all will talk about and move on.

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's how we were able to get this cast

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to be together season six.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Patomac needs that desperately.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I would love to get my hands on Giselle.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You may disagree with me, Jasmine.

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I I desperately want to get my hands on Gaselle.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And say to her some of what I already said.

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to say to her, this is your show

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and you want this show to be great, and you

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>have to come in. The producers can say what they want,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the network can say what they want, the PA, the

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>fans can say what they want. This is your show,

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 2>and if you want to be the face of the show,

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>go in and say, hey, ladies, Wendy are issuing that

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>deep can this?

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And if that deep, let's do our jobs.

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>We ain't got to call each other at night and

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>read each other bedtime stories, but let's get along because

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 2>our show is suffering. I wish Giselle was like Nimi

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 2>in that sense where Nimi say what you want about her.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Nimi cared about the show. She wanted the show to

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be great.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>To your point, Jazz, that is a force multiplier and

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I want that for Gazelle. I want that desperately for her.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to get on my knees and beg Gazelle,

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 2>can you save this show? Because they if you show

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>any ounce of like a leadership, they're going to follow.

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe, in my heart of hearts, and I love

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Wendy and Candace. I believe Wendy and Candace is also

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 2>looking for that from Jasell. I think if Gazelle came

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 2>up to them the way Wendy got Mia, come and Mia,

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>it ain't that deep.

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>We're good.

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I want Gazelle to do that, and I think the

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>show can be saved.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you most of it.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Giselle and Candace though a sexual you know, like discomfort

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 3>rumor with Chris, I think that is kind of bordering

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 3>on like the point of no return. Honestly, so, I

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's that easy for those two to

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 3>come together. And I'm going to say this, I think

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 3>if they don't come together Wendy and Candace as much

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 3>as I mean, I want Candace on the show until

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the wills fall off of it, they might need to

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 3>move around if they're not. If not, they're not willing

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to come together. Nobody's really talking to Candace like that.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Nobody's really talking to Wendy, but they're talking to each other.

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 3>If production is gonna make a decision, right, they're gonna

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 3>go with the majority.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, Yes, yeah.

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't know in a perfect world, Giselle

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and Candace can come back together. But that's tough after

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 3>somebody tries to accuse your husband of that.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it tougher than Candy and Phaedra because I never

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I never, I never put two and two together and

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 2>tell you what you said earlier, because they made a

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>decision not to bring Phaedra back, right.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it's on the same level. I think it's

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>the same level of intensity. Someone was accused of something

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 3>that is so far beyond what they would really do.

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 3>I think in the case with Gizelle and Candice, and

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this makes it worse or better.

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Giselle acknowledged like I never accused him of this. I

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 3>just had I felt uncomfortable, right, Like Faedra Canny, that

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 3>was an accusation that was told to another person to

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>then be perpetuated, and that was dirty and dangerous. In

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Giselle's case, I will give her that she did say like,

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I never accused him of anything. It just made me uncomfortable.

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.280
<v Speaker 3>But I think you can't ring that bell once it's wrong.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Like, you can't say that

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 3>and know what the implication is and then go back

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 3>and be like, well, I wasn't accusing him of anything.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 3>You know how you said it, and you know what

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 3>the implication is.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. I can't answer that I can answer.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I think they're about the same level of intensity, the

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 3>very awful things to say about a person.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why Gizelle would need to apologize

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>for the implication.

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Not that you didn't mean it that way.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But it was implied, and I think there's there needs

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to be a but you are right. Look, this show

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 2>is definitely going to go through a casting change. It's

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 2>sad because Potomac had the potential.

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>To be a great housewife show.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I stopped watching Jersey is because I

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>was sick and tired of this forced relationship between Melissa

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and Teresa, and it was to this disjointed same thing

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>with New York City Housewives.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like Leah Ebanie versus the OG's. It was weird.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You saw what happened with that. What cast can.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Stay on Potomac in order for it to continue, and

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.240
<v Speaker 2>what cast member needs to be removed?

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 4>This is tricky.

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I initially, my gut wants to say Mia can go,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 3>because you know, I've just never seen the firm as Miya.

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I think Mia.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if that's her real name, because

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 3>she lies so much Like Heavenly said about Favreel, Mary

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Smith's truth ain't.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Individu and I don't love this off.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 3>But look, and I don't know Miya for real, but

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 3>just the way she was introduced to us, I'm just like,

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>at first, I was like, she could go. But somebody

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I know, I keep bringing up Twitter. I've been having

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 3>such a great time talking to people about this. Somebody

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 3>brought it up last night. Mia is getting divorced and

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 3>she's dating again. That's a personal story that we want

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 3>to see. So I'm like, you know, I'll change my

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 3>to me if she can stay for me. Okay, Ashley

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Darby demoted, I want to say, get rid of her

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>altogether because I personally don't see it for her, but

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 3>I understand the role she plays on this cast.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 4>But she's going through.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 3>A divorce with Michael, squeezing but wanting to suck Darby

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 3>and we're not getting the details of that chop okay,

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 3>because she'd be giving us a lot more. So she

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 3>can be demoted, but she can stay off of her

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 3>bone collector duties.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>Gazelle, people are gonna be mad at me. Jiselle can stay.

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Joselle can say because when she has good moments, she

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 3>has good moments. She's funny. I love seeing her daughters.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 3>She's entering a new chapter with her oldest daughter going

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 3>to college. I don't buy her dating life. I think

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 3>with Gazelle, like I said last time, the Sherman thing

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 3>embarrassed her so much we will never past. Yeah, and

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 3>she got these these young guys on here is because

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 3>they are She don't.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Care about them.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>They're thirst let's call it what it.

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Is, exactly exactly, so she's she's fine putting them on

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 3>the show because it doesn't matter people embarrass them.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 4>So Giselle she could stay for me.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Robin.

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Robin should have been fired after it came out that

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 3>while was cheating on her, she knew about it, and

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 3>instead of like talking about it on the show, she

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 3>talked about it on her podcast production. That's when y'all

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 3>step in and say, girl pink slip or let's reshoot.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 4>They could have pulled a vander Pump rules brought the

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 4>cameras back out.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and we're reshooting a whole other episode because what

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you mean this is where I'm not listening to. I'm

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 3>not signing up for Patreon to hear about that. But

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I would have watched it on TV. No, so Robin

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 3>she can go. I think also breaking her and Gazelle up,

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 3>we get a different Gazelle without Robin. Candy Girl is staying,

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Candy Girl is saying, Karen is staying. I think Karen.

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I love Karen. Karen, Please don't be met at me.

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 3>She can be demoted though to a friend of because

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's a lot that we're gonna get

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 3>from Karen anymore.

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Either.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 3>They embarrassed her about her finances. I don't think she wants,

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, people to be in her business that much.

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Friend of Wendy.

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Wendy can go.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I like Wendy though, Like I said, Wendy can go,

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 3>and then she can go and jump on the View.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 3>She can be like a roque panelists on the View,

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 3>because that's what I see for her. Mecca, see you later.

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't have even been shouldn't have even been here?

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 4>What about you?

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I'm proud of you.

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>That was That was That was very different than last

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 2>year when you said everybody goes here to stay. So okay,

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 2>all right, so that was good. Okay, this is listen,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it. Gizelle stays for obvious reasons. However,

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 2>I just wish there's one person in Gazille's life that

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>she would listen to that that can say to her.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I wish I wish Gazelle would call meaning Leaks and

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>say what do I do to come across as if

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I care about the show. Let me not say that

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Gazelle does care about the show, care about these women.

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 2>I want her to care about the women as much

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>as she does about the show, because you can't be

0:47:58.640 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the greatest housewife of all time.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm on Potomac and not live up to that and

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>do the work. I didn't give you that title because

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I gave it to you because you have the potential

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to rally the troops and I'm not seeing that.

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So I want to see that from Gazelle.

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Gizelle stays, Karen stays, she's a fan favorite and she's

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody people want to see. I don't think you will

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.240
<v Speaker 2>ever get any real personal store from Karen. I think

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I think that's done. I agree with you a friend of,

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>but I think I think Karen wants to I think

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the networking Karen wants her to be in the poster.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the only reason, and because they don't want backlash

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>from the fans, especially.

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>After making the stayle and just said Karen's her favorite.

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I think Ashley should be removed. I do not want

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to see Ashley as a friend of I think bye.

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I think thank you for your services. You were.

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Great at being a bone collector at one point, and

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Ashley ever seen of yours is when you told Candace

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 2>when she was jamming the knife on the table, I'm girl,

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 2>don't breaking mama's table.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>That lie was epic.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>If Ashley, then nothing else Ashley gave a live that

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 2>even Kanadas said, damn, bitch, you got me.

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>That was good.

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's time for Ashley to go. I

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 2>think you did it for fun and it's time to go.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Ashy can go.

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I want Wendy to stay.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I want Wendy to.

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Be empowered to be great by the people around her,

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.799
<v Speaker 2>because I think she has the potential to be great.

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I love her family. I really want to see more

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of that.

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I love the fact that this beautiful chocolate couple is

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 2>all over each other and they dress alike like I.

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>They were matching like I.

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That's I love the there to me the epitome of

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 2>black love, and we don't see that a lot on Housewives.

0:49:56.120 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>So I think Wendy has so much potential. I just

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 2>want her to be empowered. I think Robin should go.

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you one hundred percent that Gizelle will

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 2>shine without her best friend. I think Gizelle needs to

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 2>know that we have to shake this up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Robin.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Robin is built for reality TV at all.

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want to do it, and she needs to

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<v Speaker 2>go and Mecca. As of now, Mecca, we're only a

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<v Speaker 2>few episodes in I think you should be removed because

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<v Speaker 2>the way you came on unless you give us something

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<v Speaker 2>drastically different in the middle to the end of the season,

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a chop. And with Mia, I'm with you, baby.

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to baby. I want to see Mia date

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 2>multiple men. I want to see her get spoiled at Barney's.

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to see Mia talk to her kids about

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<v Speaker 2>the divorce. I want to see messy as Gordon tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>you marry me for money, and she says, and you

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<v Speaker 2>marry me for my body.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what else is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I think mia personal story could be the saving grace.

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<v Speaker 2>So by Robin Ashley, let the rest stay, bring me

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>two new girls, unless what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I like and I didn't think.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually I'm not here for other dissolution of a marriage,

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 3>so typically I wouldn't want to see divorce. But in

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Mia and Gordon's case, that's going to be really, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a question.

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<v Speaker 3>I put my finger up while you were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Robin because I had a question for you that I

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<v Speaker 3>just remember. Do you think her and Wan have an

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<v Speaker 3>agreement for this show or in agreement within their relationship

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<v Speaker 3>that either one agree okay, okay.

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes. Win

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.919
<v Speaker 2>shows up because he knows that Robin is the breadwinner

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and she needs the check.

0:51:58.880 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that.

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe that conversation was had with with Robin in

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<v Speaker 2>order for you to come back this.

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<v Speaker 1>Season, we need to see more of you in Wan do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that Wan, which who said this was it?

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And MEA's funny. I think we are underestimating how funny

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Mia is. When Mina said, when Mia said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>where else are I'm gonna go? And he hang, got

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 2>no job, So what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't kick a man when he's down.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just saying how No, I'm just saying how

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>funny Mia is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I agree with you don't kick

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>him man while he's down.

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But I say that to say, because he isn't working,

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Robin is a sole breadwinner. So you're seeing want because

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of a conversation that allegedly.

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Was had with Robin to get her to come back.

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And Wan needs this check to work for Robin because

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 2>it supports the family.

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>But Robin is not built for reality TV.

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think At actually should go on a dating show,

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:06.839
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to see her on like too

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Hot to Handle. She's beautiful, great body, new booths, like

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>she looks great, and I want to see Ash to

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 2>be that funny, pretty flirty girl.

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Potomac is for you. So that's my

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>two cents.

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.439
<v Speaker 4>That's fair. I do I feel I know we gotta

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 4>get out.

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 3>But when you just mentioned that about Wan, though, I'm like,

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 3>that's why Wan comes across that way, because imagine how

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 3>demoralizing it is and just how embarrassed he might be

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 3>that he's on television and people are saying, like, he

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.720
<v Speaker 3>goes from this NBA player that's making all the money

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 3>and has a stay at home wife and now she's

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 3>the one bringing in the money. He's losing his job's

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 3>huge news, Like that's embarrassing. So that probably contributes to

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 3>just both of their attitudes this season of like, I

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.479
<v Speaker 3>don't want to do this shit, I have to, and.

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm resentful of the fact that I have to do this.

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's resentful. He doesn't like that.

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 2>That's why she needs to be removed. I believe you

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:07.879
<v Speaker 2>love him.

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he I think he's there to be there.

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 2>That's my opinion and I think Robin has to figure

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>out her home life before she gets back on Reality TV,

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think mentally she's capable of handling the show,

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and I think she needs to remove herself my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess I guess we will see.

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, there we have it, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the rain drops and the audience know where they

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 2>can find you, follow you, and support all of your

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<v Speaker 2>amazing work.

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<v Speaker 1>My love.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've been loving it so many every time I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on your show, I get so many people into my YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you always for creating a platform for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, Carlos, thank you.

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