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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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Speaker 4: Do you know this?
Speaker 3: When I was at your home and you were getting
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Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you going to listen to? You're like,
Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj, I'm like, that's when I knew. I mean
Speaker 3: I knew from my first conversation, but it was at
Speaker 3: that moment I was like my discernment.
Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew we were going to see
Speaker 4: each other. I knew it.
Speaker 1: I'm not Jasmine, I'm Aladdin.
Speaker 2: You better give me a romance revenge featuring him. This
Speaker 2: episode is already off to a good start. I'm happy
Speaker 2: we're laughing because I don't think we're going to be
Speaker 2: laughing for the rest of this conversation because today we
Speaker 2: are talking about the Royal Housewahs of Potomac and rain drops.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, Jazzmin.
Speaker 2: Is on her YouTube hosting podcast ish. If you haven't
Speaker 2: watched her, go to her YouTube channel. She is amazing
Speaker 2: on TikTok. Please support my girl. She is doing what
Speaker 2: she's destined to do. And what I told Miss thinks like,
Speaker 2: you need to be really doing this, Jass. You're really good,
Speaker 2: Like come behind the scenes and show the world that
Speaker 2: this gorgeous black girl is capable of being multifaceteds.
Speaker 1: So I'm so proud of you. Just know that.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Uncle Los. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 4: I genuinely appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You have been one of the people that's been like, bitch,
Speaker 3: stop producing. You're great at producing, but you know what
Speaker 3: you really can do. So I really appreciate the push.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, keep doing it.
Speaker 2: But on Sunday night, your TikTok video went viral.
Speaker 3: The Real Housewives of Potomac is so uncomfortable to watch.
Speaker 3: It is not a fun show to watch anymore. I
Speaker 3: feel like I am watching a group of enemies being
Speaker 3: forced to be in a room together, and it's starting
Speaker 3: to become uncomfortable. Okay, this neco girl comes in and
Speaker 3: starts saying this stuff about Wendy and Giselle, Robin Mia.
Speaker 3: They all just believe her word is bond and it's
Speaker 3: all due to their shared hatred for Wendy. But it's
Speaker 3: also so it's uncomfortable to watch them gang up on Wendy.
Speaker 3: It's also very uncomfortable to watch them all Ice Canvas out,
Speaker 3: I do not see a future with this cast.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned how the Real Housewives of Potomac is
Speaker 2: becoming unwatchable, and you gave your reasons and a little
Speaker 2: thing for my rain drops. I wasn't going to recap
Speaker 2: Potomac this season because I did not want to suffer
Speaker 2: through another season of me saying something's off. But when
Speaker 2: I saw Jasmine's tweet, I say, you know what, If
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about this, I want to deal
Speaker 2: with my girl who told me on this very podcast
Speaker 2: last year that she wasn't going to watch it, that
Speaker 2: she doesn't she does not think the women like each other. Jasmine,
Speaker 2: take it away, what are your thoughts on this currency?
Speaker 2: We're only a few episodes in, but I think it's
Speaker 2: indicative of what to.
Speaker 1: Expect because I don't. I don't see it getting better.
Speaker 2: But share your thoughts on the Real Housewives of Potomac
Speaker 2: thus far.
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like this is a deja vu moment
Speaker 3: because I, like you mentioned, I remember being on this
Speaker 3: very podcast talking about how last season it was feeling
Speaker 3: too dark and I just couldn't go on. And I'm
Speaker 3: feeling the same thing, and I told myself I just wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna clock out of Potomac, right. I
Speaker 3: have a few girls that I really really like on there,
Speaker 3: but I was just going to clock out of it
Speaker 3: as a show. But I was sitting and waiting for
Speaker 3: the best show on Bravo. Married to Medicine to premiere. Okay,
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, while I'm waiting,
Speaker 3: while I'm waiting for my girls, I'm Married to Medicine,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see what Potomac is talking about for season.
Speaker 4: Eight and the first episode.
Speaker 3: I made a TikTok video about that their first episode
Speaker 3: compared to Married to Medicine's premiere episode was very boring
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: It wasn't horrible.
Speaker 3: So when you put it up against Mary Smithson had
Speaker 3: a phenomenal premiere, right, so in comparison and make Potomac
Speaker 3: just look a little strange. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Potomac has some interesting storylines that I see them kind
Speaker 3: of laying the breadcrumbs for.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna follow it.
Speaker 3: But here we are, I think, with three or four
Speaker 3: episodes in, and I'm just like, I'm getting that same
Speaker 3: feeling again that I got last season of it, just
Speaker 3: feeling uncomfortable. It feels disjointed. These ladies are more fractured
Speaker 3: than they've ever been. Okay, I feel like I'm watching
Speaker 3: Candice on a completely different show than the rest of
Speaker 3: these ladies, and I don't like to see it. I
Speaker 3: hated the scene in this last episode with them like
Speaker 3: ganging up on Wendy because Mecca and I hope I'm
Speaker 3: saying her name correctly, Neka because she she said something
Speaker 3: about the voodoo with Wendy's mom, and I'm like, if
Speaker 3: that was a rumor about anybody else, they would want
Speaker 3: to investigate it a little more because they but because
Speaker 3: they all have a shared hatred of Wendy. Nekka's word
Speaker 3: is bond. Y'all just met her two seconds ago, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden. What she says says is correct.
Speaker 4: It's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's giving me and girls and someone on Twitter really
Speaker 3: somedom my feelings. They were like, it triggered me, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I think that's what it was to.
Speaker 3: It triggered me because I remember being my middle school,
Speaker 3: high school and having like a click of friends and
Speaker 3: then one person decides they don't like you, and they
Speaker 3: turned a whole click against you, and now it's uncomfortable
Speaker 3: when we sitting at the lunch table. That's what Potomac
Speaker 3: is giving, so uncomfortable, not really feeling it so far.
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Speaker 2: One thing about the first episode. I gave it a
Speaker 2: ten out of a ten. I did not compare to
Speaker 2: the excellent premiere.
Speaker 4: You're always so generous.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why because some people said yes
Speaker 2: and some people said, Carlos, you are way too generous.
Speaker 2: I appreciated the fact that they gave us what I
Speaker 2: was looking for, which was focus on Robin and Wan.
Speaker 2: I don't care about the other ladies have this at
Speaker 2: this point. I want Robin and Wan to have the conversation.
Speaker 2: I want Giselle to hold Robin's feet to the fire.
Speaker 2: I want these women to really have a real conversation
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 1: When I saw Sharise get choked up.
Speaker 2: Relating relating her experience with her ex husband to Wan,
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, this is real. They're finally having a
Speaker 2: real moment. It's not about these rumors somebody husband's cheating.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it for the sheer factor of I was
Speaker 2: able to see the aftermath of the Robin and Wan saga,
Speaker 2: and that's all I wanted, so I as a viewer, I.
Speaker 1: Was very happy with that.
Speaker 2: Then came episode two, then three, and so forth, and
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Well, you and I both watched, which
Speaker 2: was this pickleball scene, and even prior to that, I
Speaker 2: don't like to watch a show.
Speaker 1: Where the cast don't speak to each other.
Speaker 2: It's it's a red flag for Okay, we know that
Speaker 2: you guys are getting paid to be around each other,
Speaker 2: and this is the gag. We already know that I'm
Speaker 2: here as a reality TV kingpin. Okay to tell the kingpin, Honey,
Speaker 2: I'm the Kik of reality Baby at this point called
Speaker 2: me the kingpin. I am somebody who can say to
Speaker 2: you all. Yes, it's challenging when the group is at
Speaker 2: a discourse where.
Speaker 1: They just aren't able to really come together.
Speaker 2: However, that's when you have to step in and remind
Speaker 2: them of the bigger picture and work with them to
Speaker 2: get to a happy medium. Seeing Wendy walk into scenes
Speaker 2: and Gizill's not speaking to her, Cana's not speaking to Gizel,
Speaker 2: They're not speaking to Robin, and it's they're not talking
Speaker 2: to each other and what you said when it comes
Speaker 2: to Mecca. The unfortunate part is this, Neka, and I
Speaker 2: want you to listen to me loud and clear. You're
Speaker 2: losing this game already because I know nothing about you
Speaker 2: besides the fact that you're coming from Wendy. You have
Speaker 2: this handsome husband who I'm very intrigued with. I want
Speaker 2: to see y'all lifestyle. Yes, I understand Nika doesn't control
Speaker 2: the editing, and we'll get to that part later. But
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I would have said
Speaker 2: to anybody, Look, I don't feel comfortable having a conversation
Speaker 2: about my heritage and what I'm hearing with these ladies.
Speaker 2: I will. I'll give y'all what y'all want the conversation.
Speaker 2: I think me and Wendy need to do it one
Speaker 2: on one, because I at least want to give her
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt and have some grace. When
Speaker 2: she called Wendy a bitch, I said, you have studied
Speaker 2: reality TV for fifteen year years, you study Potomac, you
Speaker 2: watched Meanie Leek's Highlight Rail, and now you want to
Speaker 2: become a moment.
Speaker 3: She was giving fan from the first scene. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I said, either she came in with an agenda to
Speaker 3: feud with Wendy for the approval that damn Giselle Bryant.
Speaker 3: Every girl that comes to this show. Giselle is Regina George.
Speaker 3: Every girl that comes to this show wants the approval
Speaker 3: of Joselle exactly.
Speaker 4: Look cheers to that Barbie.
Speaker 1: You are your Barbie.
Speaker 3: I am very unbrand, but right, everybody that comes to
Speaker 3: this show. They want the approval of Giselle, and so
Speaker 3: I think Neka watched this she came in with an agenda.
Speaker 3: She said, I'm going for Wendy because it's easy, it's
Speaker 3: a low hanging fruit. But I wanted them to be
Speaker 3: a dynamic duo. When I heard there was another her, beautiful,
Speaker 3: successful Nigerian girl, I said, Oh, that's that's the takedown.
Speaker 3: We need Wendy and this girl boom together. But unfortunately
Speaker 3: we're not gonna get that, and it's really disappointing. But
Speaker 3: one feel like Nika came in with an agenda to
Speaker 3: specifically get into with Wendy because it's low hanging fruit
Speaker 3: and it's gonna put her in favor with Giselle and then,
Speaker 3: by proxy, the rest of the cast that doesn't like Wendy.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I'm gonna go step further with you.
Speaker 2: The basis of their beef is very Mariah Carey. I
Speaker 2: don't know her right, that seems to be the basis
Speaker 2: of this beef. So to remind the audience Ashley, who
Speaker 2: who by far is the most unlikable, messiest, boring housewife
Speaker 2: this genre has ever seen.
Speaker 1: Ashley, you said what.
Speaker 4: I said I talk about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, has nothing going on without Michael.
Speaker 1: Even with Michael, I.
Speaker 2: Still didn't enjoy her as much because she never gave
Speaker 2: anything of substance. Ashley belongs on the Disney Channel auditioning
Speaker 2: for Pokemon or The Little Mermaid and being down in
Speaker 2: the sea, and just because she's she's a pretty girl.
Speaker 2: You know she's a pretty girl. You're not a reality
Speaker 2: star because you don't have the ability to be real.
Speaker 1: You are there as a.
Speaker 2: Figure to be messy and don't have the substance to
Speaker 2: back it up. Like anyways, whatever, So Ashley, because girl,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I can keep going further. Ashley had a
Speaker 2: conversation with Mecca and Nika said, yeah, Wendy knows me,
Speaker 2: but she's acting like she doesn't know me.
Speaker 1: And then Wendy's like, I met her, I don't know her.
Speaker 2: And then we found out that Eddie allegedly unfollowed Mecca's husband.
Speaker 2: And then then when Mecca's husband tried to check Eddie,
Speaker 2: Eddie's like, I don't know you, but have we met?
Speaker 1: But I don't know you, but have we met? Bro?
Speaker 1: I met you?
Speaker 2: Whatever I saw that, I say that to say, this, Jasmine,
Speaker 2: this is what I believe happened. Allegedly, when you cast
Speaker 2: a new person on a reality show, they have to
Speaker 2: come in through somebody when they're auditioning. This is what
Speaker 2: I believe happened. When Mecca was auditioning for Potomac, she
Speaker 2: told the producers allegedly, oh, I know Indy. I know Wendy,
Speaker 2: and my husband actually knows Eddie. They went to the
Speaker 2: same school together. And then the producer said, oh my gosh, hey, Wendy,
Speaker 2: do you know Mekka who Nekka so and so. I
Speaker 2: mean we met once or twice, but I don't know
Speaker 2: her like that. Well, can you bring her in? No,
Speaker 2: I'm not bringing her in. I got somebody else I
Speaker 2: could bring in who I'm cool with. Yes, Jasmin reaction.
Speaker 2: Wendy was probably like, nah, I don't know her like that.
Speaker 2: To bring her in us my friend, because I know
Speaker 2: how this show works. No, I'm not gonna co sign her. No,
Speaker 2: And then it got listen, I'm not gonna say who
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 1: It got brought back to Neka.
Speaker 2: Well, Wendy says, she don't know you like that, and
Speaker 2: that's how this beef started. Wendy probably went it to
Speaker 2: our sister Yeah, they're trying to have this girl come
Speaker 2: on the show with me. I don't know her like that,
Speaker 2: and then it became this big thing. That's what happened.
Speaker 2: That's what happened.
Speaker 3: I am group gooped and gagged because that holds up
Speaker 3: as a theory, and it would make sense because I
Speaker 3: was like, her beef with Wendy seems so intense. It
Speaker 3: seems really intense, and I'm like, there has to be
Speaker 3: something else that makes so much sense to me. And
Speaker 3: I bet you you know, Carlos, we probably all know
Speaker 3: who told Okka that Wendy said she didn't know hers.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big secret. How are you
Speaker 3: doing Gazelle?
Speaker 4: Either Jazelle or Ashley did it?
Speaker 3: Actually, it probably was actually because Gazelle does not talk to.
Speaker 1: One of them. Look, I get it, I get I.
Speaker 4: Have a question for you, though, Carlosa.
Speaker 3: I've been wondering as a viewer, and I would love
Speaker 3: your expert honesty on this.
Speaker 4: Is it required like our new incoming.
Speaker 3: Housewives required to like watch some of the season that
Speaker 3: they're going to be on or have some working knowledge
Speaker 3: of it, because I noticed a lot of them claim
Speaker 3: to never watch the show until they get cast and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not buying that, but I want to
Speaker 3: hear from the expert. Do they have to know or
Speaker 3: is it something they just kind of take and learn
Speaker 3: on their own.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll preface this by saying what I used
Speaker 2: to do, because everybody changes and has been the rule.
Speaker 1: When I started. The answer was we prefer you didn't watch.
Speaker 2: It because we wanted you to come in without having
Speaker 2: preconceived notions. That's why when you used to watch Atlanta
Speaker 2: post Kenya, every new girl came in coming for Kenya
Speaker 2: because they watched the show. And that's no secret. So
Speaker 2: to answer your question, it's not a requirement. And when
Speaker 2: I was producing Housewives, I and the rest of the
Speaker 2: producers would say, please don't watch it, like, come in
Speaker 2: and form your own relationships. Now, what is a requirement
Speaker 2: when you are a new housewife. You must be introduced
Speaker 2: to the cast by somebody who you may have met
Speaker 2: five minutes before filming. Now that is tea and that
Speaker 2: is facts. And that's why I strongly believe they said
Speaker 2: to your point, oh possibly, how dope would it be
Speaker 2: to have two Nigerian women men come in together? And
Speaker 2: I think that would have been great. What I believe
Speaker 2: happened was Wendy wanted to bring in her friend who
Speaker 2: we have now seen on the show, rightfully so, because
Speaker 2: you want to make sure that this person has my back.
Speaker 2: Due to the fact that Potomac is not a show
Speaker 2: about friendships, and I hope I'm not saying anything that
Speaker 2: is shocking. Potomac is not about friendships. Potomac is a
Speaker 2: social experiment about how we can get along for a
Speaker 2: paycheck and what secrets can we uncover with everyone else
Speaker 2: and play along to get along so we can get
Speaker 2: paid along the way.
Speaker 1: I'll be real with you.
Speaker 2: Something in my spirit disturbed me when I saw the men,
Speaker 2: when I saw Necka's husband trying to chomp Eddie, Like, what, like,
Speaker 2: are we that bored to where we are following this
Speaker 2: weird based on the fact that Wendy just did not
Speaker 2: want to bring on Nekka as her girl. Just because
Speaker 2: we're Nigerian doesn't mean I need to bring her on.
Speaker 2: She's not my friend.
Speaker 4: I think there's two ways to look at that.
Speaker 3: First of all, though, I'm going to say no direspect
Speaker 3: to Wendy and no disrespect to my man. Y'all better
Speaker 3: leave Eddie alone. Leave Eddie alone, period.
Speaker 4: Getting that out of the way.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, I mean the flip side of
Speaker 3: this is if that is the case in Mekka has
Speaker 3: a vendetta against Wendy because Wendy didn't want to bring
Speaker 3: her on. I do question why Wendy didn't want to
Speaker 3: bring her on because what I know of Nigerian folks
Speaker 3: is Wendy Nekka Nigerian sisters. Right, That's how I've come
Speaker 3: to know of Nigerian people and how they get down.
Speaker 3: So I am curious to know why Wendy wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to be the one to usher in a new Nigerian Battie.
Speaker 3: Did she not want the competition? So then that lends
Speaker 3: a little bit of credibility. So potentially what Nika was
Speaker 3: saying about Wendy's people like calling around because maybe they
Speaker 3: didn't want another Nigeria and Battie on the show. I
Speaker 3: think it was right for a takeover. But both sides
Speaker 3: to me, there's the waters are murky because you know,
Speaker 3: I speak for the viewers right, Yes, we are viewing
Speaker 3: the show and so many people like me are watching
Speaker 3: and they're wondering has production put Nekka up to this
Speaker 3: because they're trying to phase Wendy out or just create
Speaker 3: a scene where Wendy doesn't want to return or doesn't
Speaker 3: want to film as much. Like it's been said that
Speaker 3: this production company particularly plays favorites on Potomac, and that
Speaker 3: favorite is not Wendy. So there's a theory now that
Speaker 3: production brought Neka in just to rival Wendy.
Speaker 4: Do you have any insight on that?
Speaker 1: I don't have any insight on that at all. Just
Speaker 1: be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I don't and I try not to ask my friends
Speaker 2: in production because I don't want. I mean number one
Speaker 2: with this podcast, honey, and how successful it is, Thank
Speaker 2: you to ass Bill.
Speaker 1: I won't talk to me anyway, child.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, if they even are allowed to talk
Speaker 3: to you about anything outside of them here, how are.
Speaker 2: You so I don't know about the production aspect of it.
Speaker 2: I'll say this much based on what I've been seeing.
Speaker 2: Nothing has been happening this season. And this is the
Speaker 2: one time they had an argument. Giselle's checked out, Robin's
Speaker 2: checked out. She even said that like, I don't care,
Speaker 2: I don't care. Karen is just trying to make sure
Speaker 2: she gets paid Candice is checked out. Wendy has the
Speaker 2: potential to be a force multiplier Wendy because Wendy has
Speaker 2: this this leaderships characteristic, this quality of she's beautiful, she's smart,
Speaker 2: and she when she walks into the room, you notice her.
Speaker 2: Wendy has a lot of potential to be in charge
Speaker 2: of the girls. But two things are happening, which is
Speaker 2: why when it comes to Potomac, and that's why I'm
Speaker 2: very specific when I talk about the essence.
Speaker 1: Of that particular show.
Speaker 2: That particular show does not do a good job at
Speaker 2: being friends off camera.
Speaker 1: They just don't.
Speaker 2: And because it is Giselle Brian's show, and because Giselle
Speaker 2: Bryant to me is everyone's favorite, everybody's favorite that's involved
Speaker 2: with the show, I think it's hard for other girls
Speaker 2: to shine because they know that. I think Candace has
Speaker 2: great potential to be a Kenya Moore. I believe that
Speaker 2: Wendy's and candace light are being dimmed because everybody.
Speaker 1: Wants to make sure Giselle shines and that she's the light.
Speaker 3: So then should production be removed? Should we should Bravo
Speaker 3: move this production company?
Speaker 4: I know, and.
Speaker 3: I'm asking for the people want to know they have
Speaker 3: the right to know.
Speaker 4: Okay, no looks.
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be this is what I
Speaker 1: do know.
Speaker 2: I think there needs to be an overall conversation about
Speaker 2: what direction are we taking this show?
Speaker 1: You know? And I will never just blame a production company.
Speaker 2: I think I think there's so much hands in this
Speaker 2: pot that you really have to It's sort of like
Speaker 2: when somebody emvestles your money in Bezzel.
Speaker 1: In Bezel.
Speaker 2: Black China, who was Nicki Minacha's alter ego of the
Speaker 2: Master videol, So everything goes back to Nicki, Yes, who
Speaker 2: hosted the Potomac.
Speaker 4: Reunion full circle moment.
Speaker 1: Come on, Barbes, We're here for you. Guys. When you
Speaker 1: in Bezzel, someone's money.
Speaker 2: The FBI and the accounting always has followed the money
Speaker 2: because when you follow the money and you know who
Speaker 2: the culprit is.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to that production and the.
Speaker 2: Cast who is involved, you have to follow where it steamps,
Speaker 2: like where it's rotting, because this cast is disjointed and
Speaker 2: it shows, and this show cannot continue with this particular cast.
Speaker 2: So I think changes have to be made, but you
Speaker 2: got to follow who's making it disjointed and to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, and I'm just being very real. I
Speaker 2: don't know who that is. It could be a cast member,
Speaker 2: it could be somebody just involved saying we, let's I
Speaker 2: saw Wendy and Candace and let's not ever film with them,
Speaker 2: because if you don't film with Windy or Candace, then
Speaker 2: by proxy, they have to be removed.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Candace my spirit.
Speaker 2: When I watch this show, this particular season, I think
Speaker 2: Candace is the most unprotected housewife, second to Kenymore, who
Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This
Speaker 2: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's
Speaker 2: get back into the show. I think Candice, who came
Speaker 2: on our podcast, right Jazz on the podcast love her
Speaker 2: down even you was like I like, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: she's dope.
Speaker 1: Wendy. When Wendy came the podcast, We're like, oh, we.
Speaker 3: But to your point, I can also speaking of people
Speaker 3: coming on the podcast, Giselle came on the podcast, and
Speaker 3: I say this to anybody who like because I have friends.
Speaker 4: Who are like, girl, I can't stay Griselle.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Giselle is hard to dislike when you meet her,
Speaker 3: like on the show, it's very easy to call her
Speaker 3: what she is on the show. Meeting Giselle is it's
Speaker 3: really hard to dislike her. I dare anybody to meet
Speaker 3: her and chop it over her and then walk away
Speaker 3: and say you dislike her.
Speaker 4: It's really hard to do period.
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why I fight for Gazelle because
Speaker 2: of what you just said. I know who she is
Speaker 2: on a personal level, and last season I kept saying
Speaker 2: to Gazelle via our personal conversations that I will not
Speaker 2: disclose in addition to on the podcast, I want Gazelle
Speaker 2: to be who she is in real life.
Speaker 1: That's all I want.
Speaker 2: Gazelle in real life, who you experienced behind the scenes
Speaker 2: as a producer. You were like, she's cool as shit.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I know, I love Gazelle. That's my
Speaker 2: point that I'm making this. The essence of this show
Speaker 2: is not built to make these people shine in a
Speaker 2: real way. And the reason why I said Candice is
Speaker 2: the most unprotected housewife second to Kenya Moore, is because
Speaker 2: this woman prayed for the gig, she got the gig.
Speaker 2: She can read like a librarian, and she's beautiful, and
Speaker 2: she's talented, and she has all of these great qualities.
Speaker 1: Yet her light.
Speaker 2: Is so damned that when she's in Seene, you can
Speaker 2: tell she feels uncomfortable. You can tell it's uncomfortable for
Speaker 2: Wendy to walk into Ashley's party having to like hug
Speaker 2: Karen and then walk by Giselle and then walk by
Speaker 2: Mia and then missing Sharise.
Speaker 1: And then be like, Oh, I'm sorry, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to touch this.
Speaker 2: It's this show needs a motherfucking reboot. It's disgusting to watch.
Speaker 2: I'm over it. It's it's I don't want to see
Speaker 2: this level of this jointedness on a show where we
Speaker 2: want these women to have fun and they're.
Speaker 1: Not having fun.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Going back to Candace, Candace is the most quintessential
Speaker 3: housewife as we know them on Potomac. Okay, she is
Speaker 3: literally she's married, she has a husband, Okay, she has
Speaker 3: a career that is budding that we get to see,
Speaker 3: so we get to follow a lot of her personal story.
Speaker 3: Her family dynamic is super interesting, and she was willing
Speaker 3: to show us that and still is willing to talk
Speaker 3: about her finances, like Miss Dorothy asking her how Chris
Speaker 3: is getting paid. The other girls would have shot away
Speaker 3: from Candace is willing to give that to you. Okay,
Speaker 3: She's bringing looks like beautiful girl, educated, comes from the
Speaker 3: pageant world, comes from a well to do black family,
Speaker 3: which is why I'm always gonna stand her because we
Speaker 3: don't get to see that allot on television.
Speaker 4: And like you said, she can read.
Speaker 3: That's everything we want, that's every characteristic in a housewife
Speaker 3: that we want. And for some reason she is not
Speaker 3: seen as the favorite through production. The way people were
Speaker 3: trying to eat me up for writing for her. It
Speaker 3: seems like some of the viewers are really conflicted with
Speaker 3: how they feel Candace to me quintessential housewife. She is
Speaker 3: the closest to it, like a housewife prototype on Potomac
Speaker 3: oh one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And it's sad because Wendy and Candace to me could
Speaker 2: be the future of Potomac because everything you said, Saint David, Wendy,
Speaker 2: She's a doctor, she's educated, her husband is gorgeous, her
Speaker 2: kids are beautiful, her mom is interesting and entertaining. She
Speaker 2: has this this juxtaposition of I'm a I'm a doctor,
Speaker 2: but I low key want to be a thought sometimes
Speaker 2: by the way I dress like. And we talked about
Speaker 2: that on my podcast and remember what she said on
Speaker 2: the podcast Jasmine.
Speaker 1: She said, Carlos, I was raised.
Speaker 2: To be the most educated and to be a doctor,
Speaker 2: and I never got a chance to experience who I am.
Speaker 2: So when you see me doing the candles and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff, no I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not faking it. You're single woman figuring it out.
Speaker 2: And I said, that makes so much sense to me,
Speaker 2: and I want to it is what you said.
Speaker 1: I want to see that.
Speaker 2: The Potomac is built on how many arguments can we have,
Speaker 2: how much shade can we throw?
Speaker 1: And yes, we want to see that, and we like it.
Speaker 2: Let all be we like it, but we like that
Speaker 2: to be forty percent of the entertainment in the episode.
Speaker 2: But we really want to see personal story, personal conversations.
Speaker 1: We want to see friendships being funny.
Speaker 2: The reason why we love freaking fract Phedra and Porsche
Speaker 2: was not because they had beep, is because when all
Speaker 2: the cats were arguing, they have funny side commentary.
Speaker 1: They were funny.
Speaker 2: Our favorite trip in Atlanta history is Savannah season six,
Speaker 2: because the girls had fun and they got along and
Speaker 2: they spoke about real conversations. Potomac has never in the
Speaker 2: eight seasons and tell me if I'm wrong. Jasmin, tell
Speaker 2: me a moment where Potomac had an episode where all
Speaker 2: the women got along, had real conversations and leaned on
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I don't recall, but to be fair,
Speaker 4: my memory just isn't the greatest.
Speaker 1: That's okay, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: In the words of Johnny cochrane, if it doesn't fit,
Speaker 2: it must have quit. So I'm gonna say this, if
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, it must have quit.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something you are wrong about.
Speaker 1: Oh tell me.
Speaker 4: I don't think Wendy is a force multiplier.
Speaker 1: Like I say, it has potential to be.
Speaker 4: I don't think she has potential to be.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think this is the vehicle for I
Speaker 3: said this last time. I don't think this is the
Speaker 3: proper vehicle for Wendy. One thing I will tell you
Speaker 3: about Wendy when I watch her with her family, it's
Speaker 3: my favorite. That's my favorite win right there, watching her
Speaker 3: with her family, watching her just figure things out. I
Speaker 3: respect that so much because not enough people have the
Speaker 3: tenacity to think about something or have a new interest
Speaker 3: and see it all the way through, like Wendy if
Speaker 3: she says today I'm joining the circus, We're going to
Speaker 3: watch her become a fucking clown. Okay, She's gonna see
Speaker 3: it through to the end. So I respect that so
Speaker 3: much because not enough people, not enough people are that.
Speaker 3: But Wendy always feels like she is on the defense
Speaker 3: from day one, from the time she was introduced to
Speaker 3: the has And I guess this is kind of a
Speaker 3: bad thing because she wasn't introduced season one, episode one,
Speaker 3: so she already came in with some preconceived notions. So
Speaker 3: she came in with the four degrees, I'm a doctor,
Speaker 3: addressed me as.
Speaker 1: Such, all of that.
Speaker 3: I have always felt like Wendy walks into a room
Speaker 3: and you're right, strikingly beautiful.
Speaker 4: You notice she's there.
Speaker 3: But on Potomac, when she's being recorded, it feels like
Speaker 3: she walks into a room preparing to have to read
Speaker 3: somebody or preparing to argue in a lot of it
Speaker 3: is because of how they treat her right. But that's
Speaker 3: why I can't say she has potentially be a false
Speaker 3: multiple force multiplier because I haven't seen her outside of
Speaker 3: defense mode. Like my friend Diamond said the same thing,
Speaker 3: There's not been a time where we've seen Wendy just
Speaker 3: be able to relax in Wendy, and that is why,
Speaker 3: to me, she doesn't have potentially be a force multiplier,
Speaker 3: because a force multiplier I'm coming in on my own
Speaker 3: terms period period.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, I definitely see your point, but this
Speaker 2: is what I will say to you in response to
Speaker 2: that she was never giving the space to do so.
Speaker 3: Honestly, you made a great point of Giselle being the favorite.
Speaker 3: No one who does have potential, we might not ever
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 4: You're an executive producer.
Speaker 3: The kingpin of reality TV, so you see these ladies
Speaker 3: through a different lens than most of us do, right,
Speaker 3: so we aren't able to see through what production is
Speaker 3: showing us, which brings me to my next point when
Speaker 3: we ask when we talk about who is to blame,
Speaker 3: I think there's a three tier blaming system here. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think the cast, the girls, they are to blame. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think production is to blame. Yes, because production can
Speaker 3: only production can do a lot. But it goes back
Speaker 3: to the women because they can only edit around the
Speaker 3: content that they get, so they're not getting good content.
Speaker 3: Then they just have to work with what they got.
Speaker 3: But I think the third one, and I know I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get jumped for this. It's on us as the viewers,
Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of it has. Yes, I
Speaker 3: think the fandom. I think we've become very toxic and
Speaker 3: very mean to these ladies. We've become a bit unhinged,
Speaker 3: and it's forcing them to act.
Speaker 1: They don't want to.
Speaker 3: Really show who they truly are because they are fearful
Speaker 3: of like how people are going to respond to that.
Speaker 3: It's like every season, people pick one housewife that they
Speaker 3: hate and they try to like ruin her life, and like,
Speaker 3: if I'm on TV, I'm gonna like pull back too,
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I don't want to give you all
Speaker 3: this ammunition with my family, with my career, because the
Speaker 3: day you decide you hate me, you're gonna try to
Speaker 3: take all of that down. And like a lot of
Speaker 3: that is on us as viewers. So I think there's,
Speaker 3: you know, a three tier blaming system, and you know,
Speaker 3: just as as a fandom, I think we can do better.
Speaker 4: And myself included, Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, And what I will speak to
Speaker 2: is your is your second point about the production aspect
Speaker 2: of it as well, because this is what I will say.
Speaker 2: And I think when I spoke about this before, I
Speaker 2: know when my cast is in trouble, let's just go
Speaker 2: back to a lane of housewives.
Speaker 1: I think I said this to you.
Speaker 2: I was extremely tired of Kenya versus Phedra and on
Speaker 2: the Philippines trip season seven.
Speaker 1: I locked them both in the room.
Speaker 2: And I said, you two have to figure this out
Speaker 2: because I cannot endure another season, nor can my audience
Speaker 2: of YouTube beefing or it's something where Apollo admitted he
Speaker 2: lies about move on like it was season eight. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: move on, We're exhausted. And they literally had this emotional scene.
Speaker 2: I remember telling Nini season six, the premiere episode of
Speaker 2: season six, since they had a white party and Nini
Speaker 2: and Nini and Kenya got this, have this funny change
Speaker 2: about Nini inviting Walter to the wedding and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and Nini said, no, bitch is gonna tell me who
Speaker 2: I can cannot invite. Right that was episode one. By
Speaker 2: episode two, you saw Nini bring Kenya. This one makes
Speaker 2: you just have this argument with around the girls because
Speaker 2: I said to Nini, I can't have Kenya being I style.
Speaker 2: You are sorry, ladies, I did say this to her,
Speaker 2: and I will admit it.
Speaker 1: Nini, this is your show. This is your show.
Speaker 2: You have to bring Kenya around the girls, because when
Speaker 2: the girls see you visually walk in with Kenya, they're
Speaker 2: gonna say, okay.
Speaker 1: I guess we all will talk about and move on.
Speaker 2: And that's how we were able to get this cast
Speaker 2: to be together season six.
Speaker 1: Patomac needs that desperately.
Speaker 2: I would love to get my hands on Giselle.
Speaker 1: You may disagree with me, Jasmine.
Speaker 2: I I desperately want to get my hands on Gaselle.
Speaker 1: And say to her some of what I already said.
Speaker 2: I want to say to her, this is your show
Speaker 2: and you want this show to be great, and you
Speaker 2: have to come in. The producers can say what they want,
Speaker 2: the network can say what they want, the PA, the
Speaker 2: fans can say what they want. This is your show,
Speaker 2: and if you want to be the face of the show,
Speaker 2: go in and say, hey, ladies, Wendy are issuing that
Speaker 2: deep can this?
Speaker 1: And if that deep, let's do our jobs.
Speaker 2: We ain't got to call each other at night and
Speaker 2: read each other bedtime stories, but let's get along because
Speaker 2: our show is suffering. I wish Giselle was like Nimi
Speaker 2: in that sense where Nimi say what you want about her.
Speaker 1: Nimi cared about the show. She wanted the show to
Speaker 1: be great.
Speaker 2: To your point, Jazz, that is a force multiplier and
Speaker 2: I want that for Gazelle. I want that desperately for her.
Speaker 2: I want to get on my knees and beg Gazelle,
Speaker 2: can you save this show? Because they if you show
Speaker 2: any ounce of like a leadership, they're going to follow.
Speaker 2: I believe, in my heart of hearts, and I love
Speaker 2: Wendy and Candace. I believe Wendy and Candace is also
Speaker 2: looking for that from Jasell. I think if Gazelle came
Speaker 2: up to them the way Wendy got Mia, come and Mia,
Speaker 2: it ain't that deep.
Speaker 1: We're good.
Speaker 2: I want Gazelle to do that, and I think the
Speaker 2: show can be saved.
Speaker 4: I agree with you most of it.
Speaker 3: Giselle and Candace though a sexual you know, like discomfort
Speaker 3: rumor with Chris, I think that is kind of bordering
Speaker 3: on like the point of no return. Honestly, so, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's that easy for those two to
Speaker 3: come together. And I'm going to say this, I think
Speaker 3: if they don't come together Wendy and Candace as much
Speaker 3: as I mean, I want Candace on the show until
Speaker 3: the wills fall off of it, they might need to
Speaker 3: move around if they're not. If not, they're not willing
Speaker 3: to come together. Nobody's really talking to Candace like that.
Speaker 3: Nobody's really talking to Wendy, but they're talking to each other.
Speaker 3: If production is gonna make a decision, right, they're gonna
Speaker 3: go with the majority.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know in a perfect world, Giselle
Speaker 3: and Candace can come back together. But that's tough after
Speaker 3: somebody tries to accuse your husband of that.
Speaker 2: Is it tougher than Candy and Phaedra because I never
Speaker 2: I never, I never put two and two together and
Speaker 2: tell you what you said earlier, because they made a
Speaker 2: decision not to bring Phaedra back, right.
Speaker 3: I think it's on the same level. I think it's
Speaker 3: the same level of intensity. Someone was accused of something
Speaker 3: that is so far beyond what they would really do.
Speaker 3: I think in the case with Gizelle and Candice, and
Speaker 3: I don't know if this makes it worse or better.
Speaker 3: Giselle acknowledged like I never accused him of this. I
Speaker 3: just had I felt uncomfortable, right, Like Faedra Canny, that
Speaker 3: was an accusation that was told to another person to
Speaker 3: then be perpetuated, and that was dirty and dangerous. In
Speaker 3: Giselle's case, I will give her that she did say like,
Speaker 3: I never accused him of anything. It just made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: But I think you can't ring that bell once it's wrong.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you can't say that
Speaker 3: and know what the implication is and then go back
Speaker 3: and be like, well, I wasn't accusing him of anything.
Speaker 3: You know how you said it, and you know what
Speaker 3: the implication is.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I can't answer that I can answer.
Speaker 3: I think they're about the same level of intensity, the
Speaker 3: very awful things to say about a person.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Gizelle would need to apologize
Speaker 2: for the implication.
Speaker 1: Not that you didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 2: But it was implied, and I think there's there needs
Speaker 2: to be a but you are right. Look, this show
Speaker 2: is definitely going to go through a casting change. It's
Speaker 2: sad because Potomac had the potential.
Speaker 1: To be a great housewife show.
Speaker 2: The reason why I stopped watching Jersey is because I
Speaker 2: was sick and tired of this forced relationship between Melissa
Speaker 2: and Teresa, and it was to this disjointed same thing
Speaker 2: with New York City Housewives.
Speaker 1: It was like Leah Ebanie versus the OG's. It was weird.
Speaker 1: You saw what happened with that. What cast can.
Speaker 2: Stay on Potomac in order for it to continue, and
Speaker 2: what cast member needs to be removed?
Speaker 4: This is tricky.
Speaker 3: I initially, my gut wants to say Mia can go,
Speaker 3: because you know, I've just never seen the firm as Miya.
Speaker 4: I think Mia.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's her real name, because
Speaker 3: she lies so much Like Heavenly said about Favreel, Mary
Speaker 3: Smith's truth ain't.
Speaker 4: Individu and I don't love this off.
Speaker 3: But look, and I don't know Miya for real, but
Speaker 3: just the way she was introduced to us, I'm just like,
Speaker 3: at first, I was like, she could go. But somebody
Speaker 3: I know, I keep bringing up Twitter. I've been having
Speaker 3: such a great time talking to people about this. Somebody
Speaker 3: brought it up last night. Mia is getting divorced and
Speaker 3: she's dating again. That's a personal story that we want
Speaker 3: to see. So I'm like, you know, I'll change my
Speaker 3: to me if she can stay for me. Okay, Ashley
Speaker 3: Darby demoted, I want to say, get rid of her
Speaker 3: altogether because I personally don't see it for her, but
Speaker 3: I understand the role she plays on this cast.
Speaker 4: But she's going through.
Speaker 3: A divorce with Michael, squeezing but wanting to suck Darby
Speaker 3: and we're not getting the details of that chop okay,
Speaker 3: because she'd be giving us a lot more. So she
Speaker 3: can be demoted, but she can stay off of her
Speaker 3: bone collector duties.
Speaker 4: Gazelle, people are gonna be mad at me. Jiselle can stay.
Speaker 3: Joselle can say because when she has good moments, she
Speaker 3: has good moments. She's funny. I love seeing her daughters.
Speaker 3: She's entering a new chapter with her oldest daughter going
Speaker 3: to college. I don't buy her dating life. I think
Speaker 3: with Gazelle, like I said last time, the Sherman thing
Speaker 3: embarrassed her so much we will never past. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: she got these these young guys on here is because
Speaker 3: they are She don't.
Speaker 4: Care about them.
Speaker 1: They're thirst let's call it what it.
Speaker 3: Is, exactly exactly, so she's she's fine putting them on
Speaker 3: the show because it doesn't matter people embarrass them.
Speaker 4: So Giselle she could stay for me.
Speaker 1: Robin.
Speaker 3: Robin should have been fired after it came out that
Speaker 3: while was cheating on her, she knew about it, and
Speaker 3: instead of like talking about it on the show, she
Speaker 3: talked about it on her podcast production. That's when y'all
Speaker 3: step in and say, girl pink slip or let's reshoot.
Speaker 4: They could have pulled a vander Pump rules brought the
Speaker 4: cameras back out.
Speaker 3: Okay, and we're reshooting a whole other episode because what
Speaker 3: you mean this is where I'm not listening to. I'm
Speaker 3: not signing up for Patreon to hear about that. But
Speaker 3: I would have watched it on TV. No, so Robin
Speaker 3: she can go. I think also breaking her and Gazelle up,
Speaker 3: we get a different Gazelle without Robin. Candy Girl is staying,
Speaker 3: Candy Girl is saying, Karen is staying. I think Karen.
Speaker 3: I love Karen. Karen, Please don't be met at me.
Speaker 3: She can be demoted though to a friend of because
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot that we're gonna get
Speaker 3: from Karen anymore.
Speaker 1: Either.
Speaker 3: They embarrassed her about her finances. I don't think she wants,
Speaker 3: you know, people to be in her business that much.
Speaker 4: Friend of Wendy.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: Wendy can go.
Speaker 3: I like Wendy though, Like I said, Wendy can go,
Speaker 3: and then she can go and jump on the View.
Speaker 3: She can be like a roque panelists on the View,
Speaker 3: because that's what I see for her. Mecca, see you later.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have even been shouldn't have even been here?
Speaker 4: What about you?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: That was That was That was very different than last
Speaker 2: year when you said everybody goes here to stay. So okay,
Speaker 2: all right, so that was good. Okay, this is listen,
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Gizelle stays for obvious reasons. However,
Speaker 2: I just wish there's one person in Gazille's life that
Speaker 2: she would listen to that that can say to her.
Speaker 2: I wish I wish Gazelle would call meaning Leaks and
Speaker 2: say what do I do to come across as if
Speaker 2: I care about the show. Let me not say that
Speaker 2: Gazelle does care about the show, care about these women.
Speaker 2: I want her to care about the women as much
Speaker 2: as she does about the show, because you can't be
Speaker 2: the greatest housewife of all time.
Speaker 1: I'm on Potomac and not live up to that and
Speaker 1: do the work. I didn't give you that title because
Speaker 1: you're pretty.
Speaker 2: I gave it to you because you have the potential
Speaker 2: to rally the troops and I'm not seeing that.
Speaker 1: So I want to see that from Gazelle.
Speaker 2: Gizelle stays, Karen stays, she's a fan favorite and she's
Speaker 2: somebody people want to see. I don't think you will
Speaker 2: ever get any real personal store from Karen. I think
Speaker 2: I think that's done. I agree with you a friend of,
Speaker 2: but I think I think Karen wants to I think
Speaker 2: the networking Karen wants her to be in the poster.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason, and because they don't want backlash
Speaker 2: from the fans, especially.
Speaker 1: After making the stayle and just said Karen's her favorite.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: I think Ashley should be removed. I do not want
Speaker 2: to see Ashley as a friend of I think bye.
Speaker 1: I think thank you for your services. You were.
Speaker 2: Great at being a bone collector at one point, and
Speaker 2: Ashley ever seen of yours is when you told Candace
Speaker 2: when she was jamming the knife on the table, I'm girl,
Speaker 2: don't breaking mama's table.
Speaker 1: That lie was epic.
Speaker 2: If Ashley, then nothing else Ashley gave a live that
Speaker 2: even Kanadas said, damn, bitch, you got me.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: But I think it's time for Ashley to go. I
Speaker 2: think you did it for fun and it's time to go.
Speaker 1: Ashy can go.
Speaker 2: I want Wendy to stay.
Speaker 1: I want Wendy to.
Speaker 2: Be empowered to be great by the people around her,
Speaker 2: because I think she has the potential to be great.
Speaker 1: I love her family. I really want to see more
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that this beautiful chocolate couple is
Speaker 2: all over each other and they dress alike like I.
Speaker 1: They were matching like I.
Speaker 2: That's I love the there to me the epitome of
Speaker 2: black love, and we don't see that a lot on Housewives.
Speaker 2: So I think Wendy has so much potential. I just
Speaker 2: want her to be empowered. I think Robin should go.
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent that Gizelle will
Speaker 2: shine without her best friend. I think Gizelle needs to
Speaker 2: know that we have to shake this up.
Speaker 1: I think Robin.
Speaker 2: I don't think Robin is built for reality TV at all.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to do it, and she needs to
Speaker 2: go and Mecca. As of now, Mecca, we're only a
Speaker 2: few episodes in I think you should be removed because
Speaker 2: the way you came on unless you give us something
Speaker 2: drastically different in the middle to the end of the season,
Speaker 2: I think it's a chop. And with Mia, I'm with you, baby.
Speaker 2: I want to baby. I want to see Mia date
Speaker 2: multiple men. I want to see her get spoiled at Barney's.
Speaker 2: I want to see Mia talk to her kids about
Speaker 2: the divorce. I want to see messy as Gordon tell me,
Speaker 2: you marry me for money, and she says, and you
Speaker 2: marry me for my body.
Speaker 1: Now what else is going on?
Speaker 2: I think mia personal story could be the saving grace.
Speaker 2: So by Robin Ashley, let the rest stay, bring me
Speaker 2: two new girls, unless what happens.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like and I didn't think.
Speaker 3: Usually I'm not here for other dissolution of a marriage,
Speaker 3: so typically I wouldn't want to see divorce. But in
Speaker 3: Mia and Gordon's case, that's going to be really, really good.
Speaker 1: I had a question.
Speaker 3: I put my finger up while you were talking about
Speaker 3: Robin because I had a question for you that I
Speaker 3: just remember. Do you think her and Wan have an
Speaker 3: agreement for this show or in agreement within their relationship
Speaker 3: that either one agree okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes. Win
Speaker 2: shows up because he knows that Robin is the breadwinner
Speaker 2: and she needs the check.
Speaker 1: And I believe that.
Speaker 2: I believe that conversation was had with with Robin in
Speaker 2: order for you to come back this.
Speaker 1: Season, we need to see more of you in Wan do.
Speaker 2: I do believe that Wan, which who said this was it?
Speaker 2: And MEA's funny. I think we are underestimating how funny
Speaker 2: Mia is. When Mina said, when Mia said, I mean,
Speaker 2: where else are I'm gonna go? And he hang, got
Speaker 2: no job, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Don't kick a man when he's down.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying how No, I'm just saying how
Speaker 2: funny Mia is.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I agree with you don't kick
Speaker 1: him man while he's down.
Speaker 2: But I say that to say, because he isn't working,
Speaker 2: Robin is a sole breadwinner. So you're seeing want because
Speaker 2: of a conversation that allegedly.
Speaker 1: Was had with Robin to get her to come back.
Speaker 2: And Wan needs this check to work for Robin because
Speaker 2: it supports the family.
Speaker 1: But Robin is not built for reality TV.
Speaker 2: And I think At actually should go on a dating show,
Speaker 2: and I would love to see her on like too
Speaker 2: Hot to Handle. She's beautiful, great body, new booths, like
Speaker 2: she looks great, and I want to see Ash to
Speaker 2: be that funny, pretty flirty girl.
Speaker 1: I don't think Potomac is for you. So that's my
Speaker 1: two cents.
Speaker 4: That's fair. I do I feel I know we gotta
Speaker 4: get out.
Speaker 3: But when you just mentioned that about Wan, though, I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's why Wan comes across that way, because imagine how
Speaker 3: demoralizing it is and just how embarrassed he might be
Speaker 3: that he's on television and people are saying, like, he
Speaker 3: goes from this NBA player that's making all the money
Speaker 3: and has a stay at home wife and now she's
Speaker 3: the one bringing in the money. He's losing his job's
Speaker 3: huge news, Like that's embarrassing. So that probably contributes to
Speaker 3: just both of their attitudes this season of like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to do this shit, I have to, and.
Speaker 4: I'm resentful of the fact that I have to do this.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's resentful. He doesn't like that.
Speaker 2: That's why she needs to be removed. I believe you
Speaker 2: love him.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's there to be there.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion and I think Robin has to figure
Speaker 2: out her home life before she gets back on Reality TV,
Speaker 2: because I don't think mentally she's capable of handling the show,
Speaker 2: and I think she needs to remove herself my opinion.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I guess we will see.
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