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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: televisions with over ten years of production experience.

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Speaker 1: Once a week from Reality with the King, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap

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Speaker 2: our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we

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Speaker 2: are still talking and tweeting.

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Speaker 1: About this watch.

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops, I mean, do I even need to

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Speaker 2: do an introduction?

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe I do because Mistik is Bang Gig Honey, Yay, Jasmine,

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Speaker 1: Hilly Bron.

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Speaker 3: But the banks, but the bang, Oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 3: so happy to be here with the King again.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for your bank. So what brought on this? Look?

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Speaker 1: I'm living for it.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm in my NICKI Minaj era, Okay, I'm ready

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Speaker 3: for Pink Friday the album.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for Pink Friday the perfume. I'm just ready.

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Speaker 3: I should have thrown through in a little pink for

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Speaker 3: all me exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm boways ready for Pink Friday. Nicki Minaj And.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you jazz chun Lee.

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Speaker 1: Or are you Roman?

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Speaker 4: I you know I am not Jasmine, I am Aladdin.

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Speaker 4: You I've had not already.

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Speaker 1: I have talked about my love for nick Managh.

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Speaker 4: Do you know this?

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Speaker 3: When I was at your home and you were getting

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Speaker 3: ready and you were like, I'm about to listen to music,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you going to listen to? You're like,

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Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj, I'm like, that's when I knew. I mean

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Speaker 3: I knew from my first conversation, but it was at

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Speaker 3: that moment I was like my discernment.

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Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew we were going to see

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Speaker 4: each other. I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Jasmine, I'm Aladdin.

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Speaker 2: You better give me a romance revenge featuring him. This

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Speaker 2: episode is already off to a good start. I'm happy

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Speaker 2: we're laughing because I don't think we're going to be

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Speaker 2: laughing for the rest of this conversation because today we

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Speaker 2: are talking about the Royal Housewahs of Potomac and rain drops.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, Jazzmin.

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Speaker 2: Is on her YouTube hosting podcast ish. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: watched her, go to her YouTube channel. She is amazing

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Speaker 2: on TikTok. Please support my girl. She is doing what

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Speaker 2: she's destined to do. And what I told Miss thinks like,

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Speaker 2: you need to be really doing this, Jass. You're really good,

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Speaker 2: Like come behind the scenes and show the world that

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Speaker 2: this gorgeous black girl is capable of being multifaceteds.

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Speaker 1: So I'm so proud of you. Just know that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Uncle Los. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 4: I genuinely appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You have been one of the people that's been like, bitch,

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Speaker 3: stop producing. You're great at producing, but you know what

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, keep doing it.

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Speaker 2: But on Sunday night, your TikTok video went viral.

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Speaker 3: The Real Housewives of Potomac is so uncomfortable to watch.

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Speaker 3: It is not a fun show to watch anymore. I

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Speaker 3: to become uncomfortable. Okay, this neco girl comes in and

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Speaker 3: starts saying this stuff about Wendy and Giselle, Robin Mia.

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Speaker 3: all due to their shared hatred for Wendy. But it's

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Speaker 3: It's also very uncomfortable to watch them all Ice Canvas out,

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Speaker 3: I do not see a future with this cast.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned how the Real Housewives of Potomac is

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Speaker 2: Potomac this season because I did not want to suffer

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Speaker 2: We're only a few episodes in, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: Expect because I don't. I don't see it getting better.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like this is a deja vu moment

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Speaker 3: very podcast talking about how last season it was feeling

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Speaker 3: feeling the same thing, and I told myself I just wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna clock out of Potomac, right. I

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Speaker 3: but I was just going to clock out of it

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Speaker 3: as a show. But I was sitting and waiting for

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Speaker 3: the best show on Bravo. Married to Medicine to premiere. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, while I'm waiting,

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Speaker 3: while I'm waiting for my girls, I'm Married to Medicine,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna see what Potomac is talking about for season.

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Speaker 4: Eight and the first episode.

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Speaker 3: I made a TikTok video about that their first episode

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Speaker 3: compared to Married to Medicine's premiere episode was very boring

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Speaker 3: So when you put it up against Mary Smithson had

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Speaker 3: feeling uncomfortable. It feels disjointed. These ladies are more fractured

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Speaker 3: saying her name correctly, Neka because she she said something

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Speaker 3: they all have a shared hatred of Wendy. Nekka's word

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Speaker 4: It's just weird.

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Speaker 3: It's giving me and girls and someone on Twitter really

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Speaker 3: It triggered me because I remember being my middle school,

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Speaker 2: One thing about the first episode. I gave it a

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Speaker 4: You're always so generous.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why because some people said yes

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Speaker 2: and some people said, Carlos, you are way too generous.

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, this is real. They're finally having a

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Speaker 2: It's it's a red flag for Okay, we know that

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Speaker 1: They just aren't able to really come together.

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Speaker 3: She was giving fan from the first scene. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: Look cheers to that Barbie.

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Speaker 3: I am very unbrand, but right, everybody that comes to

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Speaker 3: I think Neka watched this she came in with an agenda.

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Speaker 2: And then we found out that Eddie allegedly unfollowed Mecca's husband.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I saw that, I say that to say, this, Jasmine,

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Speaker 2: this is what I believe happened. Allegedly, when you cast

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Speaker 2: I'm not bringing her in. I got somebody else I

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Speaker 2: And then it got listen, I'm not gonna say who

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Speaker 1: It got brought back to Neka.

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Speaker 2: Well, Wendy says, she don't know you like that, and

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Speaker 2: that's how this beef started. Wendy probably went it to

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Speaker 2: and then it became this big thing. That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I am group gooped and gagged because that holds up

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Speaker 3: I bet you you know, Carlos, we probably all know

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big secret. How are you

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Speaker 4: Either Jazelle or Ashley did it?

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Speaker 3: I've been wondering as a viewer, and I would love

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Speaker 4: Is it required like our new incoming.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll preface this by saying what I used

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Speaker 1: When I started. The answer was we prefer you didn't watch.

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Speaker 2: It because we wanted you to come in without having

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Speaker 2: when you are a new housewife. You must be introduced

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Speaker 2: I think that would have been great. What I believe

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Speaker 2: Due to the fact that Potomac is not a show

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Speaker 1: I'll be real with you.

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Speaker 2: Something in my spirit disturbed me when I saw the men,

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Speaker 2: when I saw Necka's husband trying to chomp Eddie, Like, what, like,

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Speaker 2: are we that bored to where we are following this

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Speaker 2: She's not my friend.

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Speaker 4: I think there's two ways to look at that.

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Speaker 3: First of all, though, I'm going to say no direspect

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Speaker 4: Getting that out of the way.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, I mean the flip side of

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Speaker 3: Did she not want the competition? So then that lends

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Speaker 4: Do you have any insight on that?

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Speaker 1: I don't have any insight on that at all. Just

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Speaker 2: I don't and I try not to ask my friends

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Speaker 2: you to ass Bill.

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Speaker 1: I won't talk to me anyway, child.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, if they even are allowed to talk

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Speaker 3: to you about anything outside of them here, how are.

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Speaker 2: You so I don't know about the production aspect of it.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this much based on what I've been seeing.

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Speaker 2: Nothing has been happening this season. And this is the

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Speaker 2: I don't care. Karen is just trying to make sure

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Speaker 2: this this leaderships characteristic, this quality of she's beautiful, she's smart,

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Speaker 2: Wendy has a lot of potential to be in charge

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Speaker 1: Of that particular show.

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Speaker 2: That particular show does not do a good job at

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Speaker 1: They just don't.

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Speaker 2: And because it is Giselle Brian's show, and because Giselle

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Speaker 2: Bryant to me is everyone's favorite, everybody's favorite that's involved

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Speaker 2: Wendy's and candace light are being dimmed because everybody.

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Speaker 1: Wants to make sure Giselle shines and that she's the light.

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Speaker 3: So then should production be removed? Should we should Bravo

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Speaker 4: I know, and.

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00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm asking for the people want to know they have

438
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: the right to know.

439
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: Okay, no looks.

440
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be this is what I

441
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: do know.

442
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: I think there needs to be an overall conversation about

443
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: what direction are we taking this show?

444
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: You know? And I will never just blame a production company.

445
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: I think I think there's so much hands in this

446
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: pot that you really have to It's sort of like

447
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: when somebody emvestles your money in Bezzel.

448
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: In Bezel.

449
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: Black China, who was Nicki Minacha's alter ego of the

450
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: Master videol, So everything goes back to Nicki, Yes, who

451
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: hosted the Potomac.

452
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: Reunion full circle moment.

453
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: Come on, Barbes, We're here for you. Guys. When you

454
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: in Bezzel, someone's money.

455
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: The FBI and the accounting always has followed the money

456
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: because when you follow the money and you know who

457
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: the culprit is.

458
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to that production and the.

459
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: Cast who is involved, you have to follow where it steamps,

460
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 2: like where it's rotting, because this cast is disjointed and

461
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: it shows, and this show cannot continue with this particular cast.

462
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: So I think changes have to be made, but you

463
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: got to follow who's making it disjointed and to be

464
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: honest with you, and I'm just being very real. I

465
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: don't know who that is. It could be a cast member,

466
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: it could be somebody just involved saying we, let's I

467
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: saw Wendy and Candace and let's not ever film with them,

468
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: because if you don't film with Windy or Candace, then

469
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: by proxy, they have to be removed.

470
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Candace my spirit.

471
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: When I watch this show, this particular season, I think

472
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Candace is the most unprotected housewife, second to Kenymore, who

473
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This

474
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's

475
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: get back into the show. I think Candice, who came

476
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: on our podcast, right Jazz on the podcast love her

477
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: down even you was like I like, I'm like, no,

478
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: she's dope.

479
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: Wendy. When Wendy came the podcast, We're like, oh, we.

480
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: But to your point, I can also speaking of people

481
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 3: coming on the podcast, Giselle came on the podcast, and

482
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: I say this to anybody who like because I have friends.

483
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: Who are like, girl, I can't stay Griselle.

484
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, Giselle is hard to dislike when you meet her,

485
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: like on the show, it's very easy to call her

486
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: what she is on the show. Meeting Giselle is it's

487
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: really hard to dislike her. I dare anybody to meet

488
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: her and chop it over her and then walk away

489
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: and say you dislike her.

490
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: It's really hard to do period.

491
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why I fight for Gazelle because

492
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: of what you just said. I know who she is

493
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: on a personal level, and last season I kept saying

494
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: to Gazelle via our personal conversations that I will not

495
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: disclose in addition to on the podcast, I want Gazelle

496
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: to be who she is in real life.

497
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: That's all I want.

498
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Gazelle in real life, who you experienced behind the scenes

499
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: as a producer. You were like, she's cool as shit.

500
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I know, I love Gazelle. That's my

501
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: point that I'm making this. The essence of this show

502
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: is not built to make these people shine in a

503
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: real way. And the reason why I said Candice is

504
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: the most unprotected housewife second to Kenya Moore, is because

505
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: this woman prayed for the gig, she got the gig.

506
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: She can read like a librarian, and she's beautiful, and

507
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: she's talented, and she has all of these great qualities.

508
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Yet her light.

509
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Is so damned that when she's in Seene, you can

510
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: tell she feels uncomfortable. You can tell it's uncomfortable for

511
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Wendy to walk into Ashley's party having to like hug

512
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: Karen and then walk by Giselle and then walk by

513
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Mia and then missing Sharise.

514
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: And then be like, Oh, I'm sorry, but I don't

515
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: want to touch this.

516
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: It's this show needs a motherfucking reboot. It's disgusting to watch.

517
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm over it. It's it's I don't want to see

518
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: this level of this jointedness on a show where we

519
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: want these women to have fun and they're.

520
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Not having fun.

521
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Going back to Candace, Candace is the most quintessential

522
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: housewife as we know them on Potomac. Okay, she is

523
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: literally she's married, she has a husband, Okay, she has

524
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: a career that is budding that we get to see,

525
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: so we get to follow a lot of her personal story.

526
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Her family dynamic is super interesting, and she was willing

527
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: to show us that and still is willing to talk

528
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: about her finances, like Miss Dorothy asking her how Chris

529
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: is getting paid. The other girls would have shot away

530
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: from Candace is willing to give that to you. Okay,

531
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: She's bringing looks like beautiful girl, educated, comes from the

532
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: pageant world, comes from a well to do black family,

533
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: which is why I'm always gonna stand her because we

534
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: don't get to see that allot on television.

535
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: And like you said, she can read.

536
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: That's everything we want, that's every characteristic in a housewife

537
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: that we want. And for some reason she is not

538
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: seen as the favorite through production. The way people were

539
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: trying to eat me up for writing for her. It

540
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: seems like some of the viewers are really conflicted with

541
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: how they feel Candace to me quintessential housewife. She is

542
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: the closest to it, like a housewife prototype on Potomac

543
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: oh one hundred percent.

544
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: And it's sad because Wendy and Candace to me could

545
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: be the future of Potomac because everything you said, Saint David, Wendy,

546
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: She's a doctor, she's educated, her husband is gorgeous, her

547
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: kids are beautiful, her mom is interesting and entertaining. She

548
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: has this this juxtaposition of I'm a I'm a doctor,

549
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: but I low key want to be a thought sometimes

550
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: by the way I dress like. And we talked about

551
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: that on my podcast and remember what she said on

552
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: the podcast Jasmine.

553
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: She said, Carlos, I was raised.

554
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: To be the most educated and to be a doctor,

555
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: and I never got a chance to experience who I am.

556
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: So when you see me doing the candles and all

557
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: this other stuff, no I'm not.

558
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not faking it. You're single woman figuring it out.

559
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: And I said, that makes so much sense to me,

560
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: and I want to it is what you said.

561
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I want to see that.

562
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: The Potomac is built on how many arguments can we have,

563
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: how much shade can we throw?

564
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: And yes, we want to see that, and we like it.

565
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: Let all be we like it, but we like that

566
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: to be forty percent of the entertainment in the episode.

567
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: But we really want to see personal story, personal conversations.

568
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: We want to see friendships being funny.

569
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: The reason why we love freaking fract Phedra and Porsche

570
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: was not because they had beep, is because when all

571
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: the cats were arguing, they have funny side commentary.

572
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: They were funny.

573
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Our favorite trip in Atlanta history is Savannah season six,

574
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: because the girls had fun and they got along and

575
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: they spoke about real conversations. Potomac has never in the

576
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: eight seasons and tell me if I'm wrong. Jasmin, tell

577
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: me a moment where Potomac had an episode where all

578
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: the women got along, had real conversations and leaned on

579
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: each other.

580
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I don't recall, but to be fair,

581
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: my memory just isn't the greatest.

582
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: That's okay, it doesn't exist.

583
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: In the words of Johnny cochrane, if it doesn't fit,

584
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: it must have quit. So I'm gonna say this, if

585
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, it must have quit.

586
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: There you go.

587
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something you are wrong about.

588
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh tell me.

589
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't think Wendy is a force multiplier.

590
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Like I say, it has potential to be.

591
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: I don't think she has potential to be.

592
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think this is the vehicle for I

593
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: said this last time. I don't think this is the

594
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: proper vehicle for Wendy. One thing I will tell you

595
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: about Wendy when I watch her with her family, it's

596
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: my favorite. That's my favorite win right there, watching her

597
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: with her family, watching her just figure things out. I

598
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: respect that so much because not enough people have the

599
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: tenacity to think about something or have a new interest

600
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: and see it all the way through, like Wendy if

601
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: she says today I'm joining the circus, We're going to

602
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: watch her become a fucking clown. Okay, She's gonna see

603
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: it through to the end. So I respect that so

604
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: much because not enough people, not enough people are that.

605
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: But Wendy always feels like she is on the defense

606
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: from day one, from the time she was introduced to

607
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: the has And I guess this is kind of a

608
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: bad thing because she wasn't introduced season one, episode one,

609
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: so she already came in with some preconceived notions. So

610
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: she came in with the four degrees, I'm a doctor,

611
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: addressed me as.

612
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: Such, all of that.

613
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: I have always felt like Wendy walks into a room

614
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: and you're right, strikingly beautiful.

615
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: You notice she's there.

616
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: But on Potomac, when she's being recorded, it feels like

617
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: she walks into a room preparing to have to read

618
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: somebody or preparing to argue in a lot of it

619
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: is because of how they treat her right. But that's

620
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: why I can't say she has potentially be a false

621
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: multiple force multiplier because I haven't seen her outside of

622
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: defense mode. Like my friend Diamond said the same thing,

623
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: There's not been a time where we've seen Wendy just

624
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: be able to relax in Wendy, and that is why,

625
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: to me, she doesn't have potentially be a force multiplier,

626
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: because a force multiplier I'm coming in on my own

627
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: terms period period.

628
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, I definitely see your point, but this

629
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: is what I will say to you in response to

630
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: that she was never giving the space to do so.

631
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: Honestly, you made a great point of Giselle being the favorite.

632
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: No one who does have potential, we might not ever

633
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: see it.

634
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: You're an executive producer.

635
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: The kingpin of reality TV, so you see these ladies

636
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: through a different lens than most of us do, right,

637
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: so we aren't able to see through what production is

638
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: showing us, which brings me to my next point when

639
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: we ask when we talk about who is to blame,

640
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: I think there's a three tier blaming system here. Okay,

641
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: I think the cast, the girls, they are to blame. Yes,

642
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: I think production is to blame. Yes, because production can

643
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: only production can do a lot. But it goes back

644
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: to the women because they can only edit around the

645
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: content that they get, so they're not getting good content.

646
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: Then they just have to work with what they got.

647
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: But I think the third one, and I know I'm

648
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: gonna get jumped for this. It's on us as the viewers,

649
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of it has. Yes, I

650
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: think the fandom. I think we've become very toxic and

651
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: very mean to these ladies. We've become a bit unhinged,

652
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: and it's forcing them to act.

653
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: They don't want to.

654
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: Really show who they truly are because they are fearful

655
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: of like how people are going to respond to that.

656
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: It's like every season, people pick one housewife that they

657
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: hate and they try to like ruin her life, and like,

658
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: if I'm on TV, I'm gonna like pull back too,

659
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I don't want to give you all

660
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: this ammunition with my family, with my career, because the

661
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: day you decide you hate me, you're gonna try to

662
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: take all of that down. And like a lot of

663
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: that is on us as viewers. So I think there's,

664
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, a three tier blaming system, and you know,

665
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: just as as a fandom, I think we can do better.

666
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: And myself included, Yeah, no, I agree with that.

667
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I agree with that, And what I will speak to

668
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: is your is your second point about the production aspect

669
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: of it as well, because this is what I will say.

670
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: And I think when I spoke about this before, I

671
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: know when my cast is in trouble, let's just go

672
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: back to a lane of housewives.

673
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: I think I said this to you.

674
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: I was extremely tired of Kenya versus Phedra and on

675
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: the Philippines trip season seven.

676
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I locked them both in the room.

677
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: And I said, you two have to figure this out

678
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: because I cannot endure another season, nor can my audience

679
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: of YouTube beefing or it's something where Apollo admitted he

680
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: lies about move on like it was season eight. I'm sorry,

681
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: move on, We're exhausted. And they literally had this emotional scene.

682
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: I remember telling Nini season six, the premiere episode of

683
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: season six, since they had a white party and Nini

684
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: and Nini and Kenya got this, have this funny change

685
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: about Nini inviting Walter to the wedding and blah blah blah,

686
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: and Nini said, no, bitch is gonna tell me who

687
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: I can cannot invite. Right that was episode one. By

688
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: episode two, you saw Nini bring Kenya. This one makes

689
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: you just have this argument with around the girls because

690
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: I said to Nini, I can't have Kenya being I style.

691
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: You are sorry, ladies, I did say this to her,

692
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: and I will admit it.

693
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Nini, this is your show. This is your show.

694
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: You have to bring Kenya around the girls, because when

695
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: the girls see you visually walk in with Kenya, they're

696
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: gonna say, okay.

697
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: I guess we all will talk about and move on.

698
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: And that's how we were able to get this cast

699
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: to be together season six.

700
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Patomac needs that desperately.

701
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: I would love to get my hands on Giselle.

702
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: You may disagree with me, Jasmine.

703
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: I I desperately want to get my hands on Gaselle.

704
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: And say to her some of what I already said.

705
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: I want to say to her, this is your show

706
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: and you want this show to be great, and you

707
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: have to come in. The producers can say what they want,

708
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: the network can say what they want, the PA, the

709
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: fans can say what they want. This is your show,

710
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: and if you want to be the face of the show,

711
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: go in and say, hey, ladies, Wendy are issuing that

712
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: deep can this?

713
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: And if that deep, let's do our jobs.

714
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: We ain't got to call each other at night and

715
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: read each other bedtime stories, but let's get along because

716
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: our show is suffering. I wish Giselle was like Nimi

717
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: in that sense where Nimi say what you want about her.

718
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Nimi cared about the show. She wanted the show to

719
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: be great.

720
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: To your point, Jazz, that is a force multiplier and

721
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I want that for Gazelle. I want that desperately for her.

722
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: I want to get on my knees and beg Gazelle,

723
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: can you save this show? Because they if you show

724
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: any ounce of like a leadership, they're going to follow.

725
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: I believe, in my heart of hearts, and I love

726
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Wendy and Candace. I believe Wendy and Candace is also

727
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: looking for that from Jasell. I think if Gazelle came

728
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: up to them the way Wendy got Mia, come and Mia,

729
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: it ain't that deep.

730
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: We're good.

731
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: I want Gazelle to do that, and I think the

732
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: show can be saved.

733
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: I agree with you most of it.

734
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: Giselle and Candace though a sexual you know, like discomfort

735
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: rumor with Chris, I think that is kind of bordering

736
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: on like the point of no return. Honestly, so, I

737
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: don't know if it's that easy for those two to

738
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: come together. And I'm going to say this, I think

739
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: if they don't come together Wendy and Candace as much

740
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: as I mean, I want Candace on the show until

741
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: the wills fall off of it, they might need to

742
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: move around if they're not. If not, they're not willing

743
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: to come together. Nobody's really talking to Candace like that.

744
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: Nobody's really talking to Wendy, but they're talking to each other.

745
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: If production is gonna make a decision, right, they're gonna

746
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: go with the majority.

747
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Yes, yeah.

748
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know in a perfect world, Giselle

749
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: and Candace can come back together. But that's tough after

750
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: somebody tries to accuse your husband of that.

751
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Is it tougher than Candy and Phaedra because I never

752
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: I never, I never put two and two together and

753
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: tell you what you said earlier, because they made a

754
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: decision not to bring Phaedra back, right.

755
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: I think it's on the same level. I think it's

756
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: the same level of intensity. Someone was accused of something

757
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: that is so far beyond what they would really do.

758
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: I think in the case with Gizelle and Candice, and

759
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if this makes it worse or better.

760
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: Giselle acknowledged like I never accused him of this. I

761
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: just had I felt uncomfortable, right, Like Faedra Canny, that

762
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: was an accusation that was told to another person to

763
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: then be perpetuated, and that was dirty and dangerous. In

764
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Giselle's case, I will give her that she did say like,

765
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: I never accused him of anything. It just made me uncomfortable.

766
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: But I think you can't ring that bell once it's wrong.

767
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you can't say that

768
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: and know what the implication is and then go back

769
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: and be like, well, I wasn't accusing him of anything.

770
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: You know how you said it, and you know what

771
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: the implication is.

772
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I can't answer that I can answer.

773
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: I think they're about the same level of intensity, the

774
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: very awful things to say about a person.

775
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Gizelle would need to apologize

776
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: for the implication.

777
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: Not that you didn't mean it that way.

778
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: But it was implied, and I think there's there needs

779
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: to be a but you are right. Look, this show

780
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: is definitely going to go through a casting change. It's

781
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: sad because Potomac had the potential.

782
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: To be a great housewife show.

783
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: The reason why I stopped watching Jersey is because I

784
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: was sick and tired of this forced relationship between Melissa

785
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: and Teresa, and it was to this disjointed same thing

786
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: with New York City Housewives.

787
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: It was like Leah Ebanie versus the OG's. It was weird.

788
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: You saw what happened with that. What cast can.

789
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Stay on Potomac in order for it to continue, and

790
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: what cast member needs to be removed?

791
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: This is tricky.

792
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: I initially, my gut wants to say Mia can go,

793
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: because you know, I've just never seen the firm as Miya.

794
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: I think Mia.

795
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's her real name, because

796
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: she lies so much Like Heavenly said about Favreel, Mary

797
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: Smith's truth ain't.

798
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: Individu and I don't love this off.

799
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: But look, and I don't know Miya for real, but

800
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: just the way she was introduced to us, I'm just like,

801
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: at first, I was like, she could go. But somebody

802
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: I know, I keep bringing up Twitter. I've been having

803
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: such a great time talking to people about this. Somebody

804
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: brought it up last night. Mia is getting divorced and

805
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 3: she's dating again. That's a personal story that we want

806
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: to see. So I'm like, you know, I'll change my

807
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: to me if she can stay for me. Okay, Ashley

808
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: Darby demoted, I want to say, get rid of her

809
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: altogether because I personally don't see it for her, but

810
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: I understand the role she plays on this cast.

811
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: But she's going through.

812
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: A divorce with Michael, squeezing but wanting to suck Darby

813
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: and we're not getting the details of that chop okay,

814
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: because she'd be giving us a lot more. So she

815
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: can be demoted, but she can stay off of her

816
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: bone collector duties.

817
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: Gazelle, people are gonna be mad at me. Jiselle can stay.

818
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: Joselle can say because when she has good moments, she

819
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: has good moments. She's funny. I love seeing her daughters.

820
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: She's entering a new chapter with her oldest daughter going

821
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: to college. I don't buy her dating life. I think

822
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: with Gazelle, like I said last time, the Sherman thing

823
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: embarrassed her so much we will never past. Yeah, and

824
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: she got these these young guys on here is because

825
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: they are She don't.

826
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: Care about them.

827
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: They're thirst let's call it what it.

828
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: Is, exactly exactly, so she's she's fine putting them on

829
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: the show because it doesn't matter people embarrass them.

830
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: So Giselle she could stay for me.

831
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Robin.

832
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: Robin should have been fired after it came out that

833
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: while was cheating on her, she knew about it, and

834
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: instead of like talking about it on the show, she

835
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: talked about it on her podcast production. That's when y'all

836
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: step in and say, girl pink slip or let's reshoot.

837
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: They could have pulled a vander Pump rules brought the

838
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: cameras back out.

839
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: Okay, and we're reshooting a whole other episode because what

840
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: you mean this is where I'm not listening to. I'm

841
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: not signing up for Patreon to hear about that. But

842
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: I would have watched it on TV. No, so Robin

843
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: she can go. I think also breaking her and Gazelle up,

844
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: we get a different Gazelle without Robin. Candy Girl is staying,

845
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: Candy Girl is saying, Karen is staying. I think Karen.

846
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: I love Karen. Karen, Please don't be met at me.

847
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: She can be demoted though to a friend of because

848
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot that we're gonna get

849
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: from Karen anymore.

850
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Either.

851
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: They embarrassed her about her finances. I don't think she wants,

852
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, people to be in her business that much.

853
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 4: Friend of Wendy.

854
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: I think.

855
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: Wendy can go.

856
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: I like Wendy though, Like I said, Wendy can go,

857
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: and then she can go and jump on the View.

858
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: She can be like a roque panelists on the View,

859
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: because that's what I see for her. Mecca, see you later.

860
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have even been shouldn't have even been here?

861
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: What about you?

862
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm proud of you.

863
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: That was That was That was very different than last

864
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: year when you said everybody goes here to stay. So okay,

865
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: all right, so that was good. Okay, this is listen,

866
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Gizelle stays for obvious reasons. However,

867
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: I just wish there's one person in Gazille's life that

868
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: she would listen to that that can say to her.

869
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: I wish I wish Gazelle would call meaning Leaks and

870
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: say what do I do to come across as if

871
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: I care about the show. Let me not say that

872
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Gazelle does care about the show, care about these women.

873
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: I want her to care about the women as much

874
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: as she does about the show, because you can't be

875
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: the greatest housewife of all time.

876
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm on Potomac and not live up to that and

877
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: do the work. I didn't give you that title because

878
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: you're pretty.

879
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: I gave it to you because you have the potential

880
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: to rally the troops and I'm not seeing that.

881
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: So I want to see that from Gazelle.

882
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: Gizelle stays, Karen stays, she's a fan favorite and she's

883
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: somebody people want to see. I don't think you will

884
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: ever get any real personal store from Karen. I think

885
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: I think that's done. I agree with you a friend of,

886
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: but I think I think Karen wants to I think

887
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: the networking Karen wants her to be in the poster.

888
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 2: That's the only reason, and because they don't want backlash

889
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: from the fans, especially.

890
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: After making the stayle and just said Karen's her favorite.

891
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: So there you go.

892
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: I think Ashley should be removed. I do not want

893
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: to see Ashley as a friend of I think bye.

894
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: I think thank you for your services. You were.

895
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: Great at being a bone collector at one point, and

896
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: Ashley ever seen of yours is when you told Candace

897
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: when she was jamming the knife on the table, I'm girl,

898
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: don't breaking mama's table.

899
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: That lie was epic.

900
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: If Ashley, then nothing else Ashley gave a live that

901
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: even Kanadas said, damn, bitch, you got me.

902
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: That was good.

903
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: But I think it's time for Ashley to go. I

904
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: think you did it for fun and it's time to go.

905
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: Ashy can go.

906
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: I want Wendy to stay.

907
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: I want Wendy to.

908
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: Be empowered to be great by the people around her,

909
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: because I think she has the potential to be great.

910
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: I love her family. I really want to see more

911
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: of that.

912
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: I love the fact that this beautiful chocolate couple is

913
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: all over each other and they dress alike like I.

914
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: They were matching like I.

915
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: That's I love the there to me the epitome of

916
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: black love, and we don't see that a lot on Housewives.

917
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: So I think Wendy has so much potential. I just

918
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: want her to be empowered. I think Robin should go.

919
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent that Gizelle will

920
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: shine without her best friend. I think Gizelle needs to

921
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: know that we have to shake this up.

922
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: I think Robin.

923
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Robin is built for reality TV at all.

924
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to do it, and she needs to

925
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: go and Mecca. As of now, Mecca, we're only a

926
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: few episodes in I think you should be removed because

927
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: the way you came on unless you give us something

928
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: drastically different in the middle to the end of the season,

929
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a chop. And with Mia, I'm with you, baby.

930
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: I want to baby. I want to see Mia date

931
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: multiple men. I want to see her get spoiled at Barney's.

932
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: I want to see Mia talk to her kids about

933
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: the divorce. I want to see messy as Gordon tell me,

934
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: you marry me for money, and she says, and you

935
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: marry me for my body.

936
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: Now what else is going on?

937
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: I think mia personal story could be the saving grace.

938
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: So by Robin Ashley, let the rest stay, bring me

939
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: two new girls, unless what happens.

940
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: I like that.

941
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: I like and I didn't think.

942
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 3: Usually I'm not here for other dissolution of a marriage,

943
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: so typically I wouldn't want to see divorce. But in

944
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: Mia and Gordon's case, that's going to be really, really good.

945
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: I had a question.

946
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: I put my finger up while you were talking about

947
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: Robin because I had a question for you that I

948
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: just remember. Do you think her and Wan have an

949
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: agreement for this show or in agreement within their relationship

950
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: that either one agree okay, okay.

951
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes. Win

952
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 2: shows up because he knows that Robin is the breadwinner

953
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: and she needs the check.

954
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: And I believe that.

955
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: I believe that conversation was had with with Robin in

956
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: order for you to come back this.

957
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Season, we need to see more of you in Wan do.

958
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I do believe that Wan, which who said this was it?

959
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: And MEA's funny. I think we are underestimating how funny

960
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: Mia is. When Mina said, when Mia said, I mean,

961
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: where else are I'm gonna go? And he hang, got

962
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: no job, So what are you gonna do?

963
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: Don't kick a man when he's down.

964
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying how No, I'm just saying how

965
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: funny Mia is.

966
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I agree with you don't kick

967
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: him man while he's down.

968
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: But I say that to say, because he isn't working,

969
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: Robin is a sole breadwinner. So you're seeing want because

970
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: of a conversation that allegedly.

971
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: Was had with Robin to get her to come back.

972
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: And Wan needs this check to work for Robin because

973
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: it supports the family.

974
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: But Robin is not built for reality TV.

975
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: And I think At actually should go on a dating show,

976
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: and I would love to see her on like too

977
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: Hot to Handle. She's beautiful, great body, new booths, like

978
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: she looks great, and I want to see Ash to

979
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: be that funny, pretty flirty girl.

980
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I don't think Potomac is for you. So that's my

981
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: two cents.

982
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 4: That's fair. I do I feel I know we gotta

983
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 4: get out.

984
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: But when you just mentioned that about Wan, though, I'm like,

985
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: that's why Wan comes across that way, because imagine how

986
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: demoralizing it is and just how embarrassed he might be

987
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: that he's on television and people are saying, like, he

988
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 3: goes from this NBA player that's making all the money

989
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: and has a stay at home wife and now she's

990
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: the one bringing in the money. He's losing his job's

991
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 3: huge news, Like that's embarrassing. So that probably contributes to

992
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: just both of their attitudes this season of like, I

993
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 3: don't want to do this shit, I have to, and.

994
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 4: I'm resentful of the fact that I have to do this.

995
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Yes, he's resentful. He doesn't like that.

996
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: That's why she needs to be removed. I believe you

997
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 2: love him.

998
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's there to be there.

999
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: That's my opinion and I think Robin has to figure

1000
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: out her home life before she gets back on Reality TV,

1001
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: because I don't think mentally she's capable of handling the show,

1002
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: and I think she needs to remove herself my opinion.

1003
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I guess we will see.

1004
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, there we have it, guys.

1005
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Let the rain drops and the audience know where they

1006
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,160
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1010
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Carlos, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And just so you know, Jasmine doesn't just only talk

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