WEBVTT - Do Sports Make You Happier?

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Unleashed, presented by MGM. Here's your host, Jana's Papas

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<v Speaker 1>and Olivia Arlan Decker. Welcome to Unleashed from bet MGM,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Sports Books. It's Halloween week. It is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite week of the year. I'm not kidding this,

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite holiday spooky season is officially here. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the scary movies, I love the colder weather, I love

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween candy. This is just too good. But things again

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<v Speaker 1>spooky kind of across the NFL. I'm not just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Sam Donald back at MetLife seeing ghosts. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>talking about my Kansas City Chiefs. Yikes. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>care what Shenanigan's the Mahomes family pulled this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't get over how bad they were in Smashville.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Super Bowl losing team is nursing a hangover.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure They're not alone in Nashville nursing to hangover.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord knows we've all been there. But another big shape

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<v Speaker 1>shifter in the a f C, the Cincinnati Bengals upsetting

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens for first place in the a f

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<v Speaker 1>C North. Who thought after Week seven we would be

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that's crazy. Their fans used to wear brown

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<v Speaker 1>bags over their heads for costumes. But talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>trick or treat. Joe Burrow and the Bengals are legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase is a favorite Twin rookie of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too good. And Tom Brady set a new

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown record with number six hundred on Sunday versus the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Little redemption Game two for the Bucks where they

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<v Speaker 1>lost last year and Tom Brady famously lost count on downs. Yikes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's spooky too. But another snaffoo happened with this magical

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<v Speaker 1>historic NFL moment, the six hundred touchdown pass football when missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Be honest, did you see this? I did not see

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<v Speaker 1>it because the football is missing, so I don't know who. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where is it? Who has it? Let me tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild. So Mike Evans was the receiver who caught

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<v Speaker 1>the six hundred touchdown pass. Well, he didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>it was this really important, valuable football and he gave

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<v Speaker 1>the ball away to a fan in the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know something we see a lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>he gets back to the sideline and they're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the ball? And he could not believe it. He

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<v Speaker 1>was so embarrassed. He tweeted about all this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>the team equipment manager how to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>fan and ask for the football back. But look, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it came with a price. Some are

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that ball could have been sold for half

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars. Oh yeah, yeah, at that point you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you want this football back. Well, let's talk to my

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer and let's strike a deal. Baby. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that fan got some money. He's in Tampa Bay. He

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<v Speaker 1>needs it. Uh yeah he did. Guess what the team

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<v Speaker 1>gave him. I'm hoping some uh cold hard cash and

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<v Speaker 1>not bitcoin. Nope, one thousand dollar of gift store credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god. And he and he said yes to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also gave him another football, so like not

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<v Speaker 1>the magic six hundred touchdown football, but yeah, a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>bucks to the gift shop by man, go get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a cheap shirt. Yeah that's horrible. And you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks at a gift shop doesn't even go that far.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are crazy expensive in there. Yeah. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, uh, you're stupid, whoever you are. Mr. Fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for him. Yeah, you should have got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more money for that. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things what would you do, because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing is to give it back because it'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to Tom Brady, and Brady even said I don't

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<v Speaker 1>keep a lot of mementos, but I really wanted that football.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, Okay, you're big Brady fan, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>big Buck fan. You give it back, right, But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you got half a mill sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the palm of your hands while you're just at a game. Aime.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that guy's Actually, he's probably never negotiated

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<v Speaker 1>in his life. Okay, maybe he wants to give it back.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be a good guy at least negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>for something good, like maybe spend a day with the

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<v Speaker 1>Brady family, get around with him and Giselle. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to take Gazelle on a date. Yeah, you don't just

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<v Speaker 1>like have that football and give it back. That that

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<v Speaker 1>was the most power that guy is gonna have in

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<v Speaker 1>his entire life, and he gave it away. Yep. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. So I mentioned I love Halloween so much,

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<v Speaker 1>favorite holiday, and I was asking you this weekend when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked, I said, what are you and your family

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<v Speaker 1>going to be for Halloween? Because your family is so darling,

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<v Speaker 1>and your wife and I, who have become friends, is

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<v Speaker 1>so darling, and you, Joannice, have become quite darling yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You're I said, you're kind of a basic bitch. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to tell you that, but I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be some adorable coordinated Halloween costume, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a b b a basic bitch, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're going as monsters inc to match. My idea

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<v Speaker 1>was better since my baby looks My little baby girl

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<v Speaker 1>looks so much like me, I wanted to go as

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<v Speaker 1>twins Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwartzenigger. So she's like the

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<v Speaker 1>mini Danny DeVito and I'm Schwartzenigger because we're twins, we

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<v Speaker 1>look so much alike. I presented the idea of going

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<v Speaker 1>as the Deckers, but my wife wasn't into that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna dress up as you. She she was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Sam and my baby was was gonna Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be Kevin Hart, was gonna be Kevin Harlan,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were gonna we were gonna sit around and

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<v Speaker 1>talk football and talk basketball, but that was a no go.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, it's pumpkin season, it's boots weather, it's cozy time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I'm a basic batch. You are you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're You're kind of a scaliwag in your workspace. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you go home, my friend, you are a pumpkin

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<v Speaker 1>spice latte drinking fool. So I know it. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, I'm in my wife's sweater right now. See

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<v Speaker 1>watching house. So I was going to the pumpkin patch.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you, I said, yeah, Hocus podcast, don't even

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<v Speaker 1>that's my favorite. Okay, lots to get to coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not one, but two great guests joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk all about sports fandom with author

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<v Speaker 1>and journalist Larry Olmstead. His book titled Fans How Watching

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<v Speaker 1>Sports makes Us happier, healthier, and more understanding what a

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<v Speaker 1>great title is, a great read no matter who you

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<v Speaker 1>root for, great hey, great holiday gift this holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's good for any fan. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with all those things, so I can't wait to pick

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<v Speaker 1>his brain. Absolutely. Plus host embedding analyst Hannah A Stop

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck will join us. I go on Hannah Show. Every Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>cheddar Bets TV. Make sure you join that. She's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get her on my turf though,

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<v Speaker 1>right Janice, we're having her come to us and I

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<v Speaker 1>bet she's gonna be really great. We're gonna talk NBA

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<v Speaker 1>with her. I can't wait. Big fan of her, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just you guys are really like have become tight.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just can't wait for us three girls to

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<v Speaker 1>chit chat about hoops. It's a very friendship right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how tall she is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what she likes to order at a restaurant. But

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we we zoom yeah always At the end, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a look ahead this weekend slate of games with

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<v Speaker 1>our go to gambling guru, Peter Andrew from Bet MGM.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of become a character on this show too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of a fixture ficture. That's a hard one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fixture. But you know who am I

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<v Speaker 1>to if anyone ship for how they pronounced things, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from New York. I call it coffee and water. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get some water. So let's go with he's

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<v Speaker 1>a fixture on this show. Fixture that's I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that word. Also, you know when we have Peter on,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we reveal who lost our punishment picks from

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<v Speaker 1>Latin week's games and has the embarrassing task of having

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<v Speaker 1>to read an outro written for them by the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell by the sound of my voice who

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<v Speaker 1>has to do that. So last week we tied, so

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<v Speaker 1>we split it, which was fun. That was kind of different.

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<v Speaker 1>But this week it came down to the final game

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<v Speaker 1>of Sunday Colts and forty Niners. So more on that later,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can probably guess who won that one. One

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<v Speaker 1>person who unfortunately didn't win this weekend is our bad

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<v Speaker 1>beat of the weekender Bad beat of the week where

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the loser. His name is Frederick Jenkins on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>He is at Billy Dreams. So at Billy Dreams, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you hit up bet MGM and get your free

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars credit because you My friend got a bad beat.

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<v Speaker 1>It was tough. He did a bunch of player props.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at him right now. They all hit but one,

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<v Speaker 1>so five of six player props hit. And player props

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<v Speaker 1>are really hard to guess because someone could get injured

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<v Speaker 1>in a first quarter and you're out. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>on Chuba Hubbard, the Canadian running back. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Canadians and NFL he's one of them, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>they thought he'd score a touchdown and he did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers at New York Giants. So I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Billy dreams be, you're a hundred bucks richer,

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<v Speaker 1>So go to bed MGM, make sure you let them

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<v Speaker 1>know that you won. And everyone just submit your bad

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<v Speaker 1>beat of the week every weekend. We'll read the winner

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<v Speaker 1>on the show every week. Okay, let's get to our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite segment. It's time for us to sound off on

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<v Speaker 1>one topic we feel passionately about this week. It's the good,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, sometimes ugly, sometimes ugly tweeting my family members,

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, let's unleash. It's time Olivia. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as that NBA Greatest Players of All Time

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<v Speaker 1>list came out, I got pissed. I got piste off.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had enough of lists. It's like this American obsession

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<v Speaker 1>we have with listing people talking about the goats, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe it's led to this free Asian culture

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<v Speaker 1>where people want to play with their friends. They're really

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<v Speaker 1>playing for their stats. I missed those great teams that

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<v Speaker 1>stayed together forever and talked about team all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the NBA. So and also I hate how

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<v Speaker 1>arbitry it is seventy five because it was the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>fifth anniversary. Then they had the fifty grave. This what's

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<v Speaker 1>next when it's like they're gonna come up with the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, fiftie best players ever lived? There's only one

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<v Speaker 1>goat in His name is Sam Decker. Hey, he plays

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto, and I don't want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you gonna have a seventy five greatest players

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<v Speaker 1>of all time without having my boy on their Nichols Galis,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the greatest Greek basketball player of all time? Even

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<v Speaker 1>read Arbach said his the biggest mistake he ever made

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<v Speaker 1>was letting him go from the Celtics, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Greece and became the greatest European player to

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<v Speaker 1>ever live. He was born in Jersey City. He was American,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was Greek. Google it what a legend? And

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<v Speaker 1>what about they hang on the greatest Greek to ever

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<v Speaker 1>play in the NBA? Hello, your namesake? Who was playing

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Good point, Olivia. I forgot about him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from Greece. I know. You know. That's the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I don't like having you on this show. Is

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than me, and you're an actual journalist, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't let me get away with anything. Go on, go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your point. Yeah, I mean, no, Chris Webber. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Webber on that great Sacramento team that got robbed

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe one of those referees who ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being infamous for throwing calls, that one call where Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Bibby got absolutely massacred on an inbounds play and they

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<v Speaker 1>lost Game six, and they should have won that series

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<v Speaker 1>against the Lakers. Chris Webber on one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>teams ever, Sacramento Kings with my boy Vladi DVEs and

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<v Speaker 1>Start Jankog. I mean, you we should be it should

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<v Speaker 1>be the seventy five greatest teams. We should be teaching

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<v Speaker 1>these kids that just hoisten up three pointers and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pad your stats is not the way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Damian Lillard is on the greatest No disrespect

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<v Speaker 1>to Damian Lillard, but I mean, when's the last time

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<v Speaker 1>they got out of the first round. Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Horry should be on that list because every team

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to they win. Like me, I came on

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<v Speaker 1>this show and turned it into a winner on the

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<v Speaker 1>Robert ory Of podcast, Baby, It's me and oh D

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<v Speaker 1>and we are champions. I hate lists. It's it's demeaning

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel you. Clay, you're one of the You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of the two greatest shooters to ever play

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<v Speaker 1>this game. And Clay is not on the list, but

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Pierce is. Come on, come on, Olivia. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>anytimeson kind of made the most noise about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was refreshing. You don't see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys like stick up for themselves when stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this comes out, and he just flat out did and

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with it. He like kept talking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I thought I should have I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>should have made the list, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>agree with them. But you know who gave him a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time for it, where his teammates they got him

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<v Speaker 1>a jersey and hung it in his locker for practice

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<v Speaker 1>that had seventies seven on it, Like he's the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven gradest player of all time. So that was pretty funny,

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<v Speaker 1>very funny, well done by the Warriors, have some fun

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I don't know. I don't like these lists either,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're sitting and you're like, oh yeah, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, Damian Lillard is one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. Has he been on one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best teams. No, but he's been kind of a one

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<v Speaker 1>man machine with our friend of the podcast, c J McCollum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been amazing too in Portland. But the second you

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<v Speaker 1>bring up these lists, everyone starts arguing because they say,

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<v Speaker 1>what about so and so? What about so and so?

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate having to come up with an argument

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So I'm just gonna let this one simmer.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't come up with the list, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I didn't. And I'll just say no, Tony Parker, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernard King. Yeah, that list is officially fake news. Fake news. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of someone who does actually say fake news seriously

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I don't know if you saw this on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely loved it. Mississippi state coach Mike Leach. He

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<v Speaker 1>is such a character. Look just look him up sometime

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<v Speaker 1>and just see kind of conspiracy theories he's really into aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a treasure, He's a national treasure. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite coaches. So they trounced Vanderbilt to six. And after

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<v Speaker 1>the game, he's giving an interview with the SEC Networks

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<v Speaker 1>Alissa Lange, and this is what he says, which really

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<v Speaker 1>is leading to my unleashed let's roll the tape about

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast, how you hate candy corn? What's your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite hallowey corn? I mean, I completely ate candy corn

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid. Well, gummy bears. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>gummy bears for sure. Um, the hairbowe it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be the airbow ones. Wow, talk about hot takes. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I love this line of questioning. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>know Alissa and I can just hear her producer in

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<v Speaker 1>her ear be like, this was an awful game. Just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something fun. We've got one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>colorful coaches, and they did the whole teams like celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>behind them for those of you who couldn't see. And

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Leach is just going on and on about

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween candy, which I absolutely love. So it just got

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking, as we are in Halloween week, let me

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<v Speaker 1>break this down like, who the NFL quarterback equivalent is

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<v Speaker 1>too Halloween candy. So, first of all, the goat the best,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely my favorite, and also one that is a geographical

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<v Speaker 1>thing that people say differently all the time. I say

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<v Speaker 1>reese Is. I know a lot of people say Reese's.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say? Oh good? Okay, yeah, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not weird, not weird, okay, not weird. Yet. Reese's are

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<v Speaker 1>the Tom Brady of candy. They're timeless, they're beautiful, they're delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone once one, but some people are haters and allergic

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<v Speaker 1>to greatness. And you know Mac Jones, Josh Allen, Justin,

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert Kyler, Murray, all these kind of younger almost goats

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<v Speaker 1>maybe goats. I think they're Reese's pieces. And then candy

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<v Speaker 1>corn the absolute worst Halloween candy garbage. They're the Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Garoppolo of candy. Just based on this week's comments from

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<v Speaker 1>his former teammate Martell Has Bennett, They're very pretty. I

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<v Speaker 1>like just decorating with them, putting them in glass bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>They look great. Jimmy Garoppolo is very pretty, but according

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<v Speaker 1>to Martell's Bennett, a little bit so wow, my quota

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<v Speaker 1>of bitch this week is really high. Yeah that's number three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you just did the hat trick on bitch. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think candy corn absolutely sucks. To Coach Leach,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. Candy corn is trash. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a candy. It's basically like eating wax with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of sugar. And again it's just more decorative. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Jimmy garoppolo of Halloween candy? Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Jimmy g he should play without a helmet just

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<v Speaker 1>to distract the defense because they just would stare it

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<v Speaker 1>out beautiful spaces. He got a good looking man. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>he's handsome. He is so handsome. So if you are

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<v Speaker 1>giving away candy corn this Halloween, just be better. Just

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<v Speaker 1>put it away. Just how that on display. Our kids

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<v Speaker 1>have all suffered enough this past year. They were in

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<v Speaker 1>masks in school, they couldn't see their friends for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Give the kids a break. This is my p s A.

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<v Speaker 1>And just give them real candy. In fact, give him

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<v Speaker 1>king size candy. They deserve it. Okay, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>unleashed I love that you unleashed on candy corn. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it should be outlawed. I think candy corn should

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<v Speaker 1>be outlawed. What is it? It's just like wax and like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? They make decent vampire fangs, but other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, they're a gross They are the black licorice

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<v Speaker 1>of candies. Yuck. Yep, I totally agree, Glad, I do agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was our unleashed segment. Now it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to sports and let's bring in our first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the author of Fans How Watching Sports makes Us happier, healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>and more understanding. Couldn't agree more with that title, Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Holm said, is here, So Larry, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining the show. The title of your book alone is fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely hooks you in. I'm curious what made you want

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into the world of fandom and study really

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<v Speaker 1>the greater psychology of it. Yeah. Several years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a Red Sox Yankees game at Fenway Park

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season, and I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>couple that had two really young kids, like under ten,

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in T shirts that had kind of homophobic upsetities

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<v Speaker 1>aimed at the Yankees. And I looked at them and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, what's wrong with these people? These

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<v Speaker 1>little kids? You know, and I'm thinking about it us,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't even buy those shirts at like the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox gift shop, you know, so I thought like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something about watching sports that makes us crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my first thought. So I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look into this. It might be an interesting topic. And

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I started seeing the scientific data, I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the exact opposite was true, that it's really

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<v Speaker 1>good for us. And I've come to realize that there

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<v Speaker 1>were like thirty nine thousand nine other people at the

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<v Speaker 1>game that day who I did not notice because they're

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<v Speaker 1>normal fans, So you know, it kind of completely changed

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, and I was like, Wow, this is great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no rule without an exception, and Boston fans are

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<v Speaker 1>the exception. I know. I know that as a Yankee fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't judge based on Boston fans. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say they're too passionate for better or worse.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a chip on their shoulder and they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>because they've been winning. So enough is enough, Boston. I really,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love the book. I love the premise behind

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<v Speaker 1>it because I always thought like sports is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the purest things. It's one of those things you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about at dinner and argue about and uh not

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<v Speaker 1>lose family members and friends over like politics. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think sports is something that could really unify this country

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<v Speaker 1>because we're so divided now? Do you think like we

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<v Speaker 1>should just start talking about sports more on the news?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do think you know, it is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I call it the universal language. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about being a sports fan and a member of

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<v Speaker 1>any team community, you know, it's it's funny because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we call it nation, right, Red Sox Nation, Raiders Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, like if you're a Harry Potter's fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never heard of Harry Potter Nation. And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>like the fandom group of any team is like a country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so diverse, right, It's spanned any any team spans

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gender, race, age, education, income, none of that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>You're all like, you know, Raiders fans in your black

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<v Speaker 1>and silver. And I do think that that has a

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<v Speaker 1>huge potential for for bringing people together. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty two percent of Americans slightly more than half

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<v Speaker 1>in polls identified themselves as sports fans. That's more than

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<v Speaker 1>belong to any organized religion, political party, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing in society now as you look into fan bases,

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<v Speaker 1>every fan base has a stereotype. Right. What were your

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<v Speaker 1>findings as you kind of dug into this team by

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<v Speaker 1>team Yeah, I mean, I actually I think the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is almost more sport by sport. You know. Certainly, you

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<v Speaker 1>know cities like you know, Boston, Philadelphia, the fans have

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<v Speaker 1>certain reputations for being a little gung ho, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really knows. I personally, I ran the Philadelphia Marathon years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and it's the same thing, Like every mile of

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<v Speaker 1>the course line with people channing at strangers running by.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they'll come out for anything, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in some ways that's a great thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I find what really struck me was was college football fans,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the South, you know, like your Alabama fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I did not know when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>college I could go into a bookstore and buy like

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<v Speaker 1>an n C double a logo you know, Hologram licensed sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go to like the Alabama bookstore, you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a logo coffin, and that like really speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the dedication. I think, what are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>examples of how it makes us happier and healthier, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a Giants fan and a long time

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<v Speaker 1>suffering Knicks fans, so I'd really like to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's two big things there. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One is psychologists if identified all these mental health benefits

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>sports fans enjoy more than non fans, things like higher

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem, lower rates of depression, more satisfaction with their

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<v Speaker 1>social life. And all of that comes from the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of community you get, like I said, of belonging to

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<v Speaker 1>this nation. And with sports, what's really unusual is like

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<v Speaker 1>if I watch a football game, people think like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching you know, twenty four guys on the field, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. You're watching sixty people all the time on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen in your team's logo where Way even signs

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<v Speaker 1>foam fingers whatever it is. So you feel, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you're home alone watching a game, like your part of something.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you go to the supermarket and you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas and you you you see somebody wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Knight's hat walking down the aisle of the supermarket

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you're wearing you know, Golden Knight sweashirt. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta look at each other and make eye contact and like, yeah, hey,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 1>we're linked even though we don't know each other. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big humans or tribal animals. We've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to belong to groups since caveman days, and uh, sports

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>fulfills that. So that's like one one thing that makes

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<v Speaker 1>us happy or our sense of belonging. And then to

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>your point about the Giants and Knicks and thank god

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't say Jets. You know, one thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting I learned is that, you know, the winning

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<v Speaker 1>and losing is not as important to our happiness as

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<v Speaker 1>you would think being a sports fan. And like I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to some Cubs fans, especially older Cubs fans, who

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<v Speaker 1>are like a little bit disappointed that they finally won

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series because it took away like part of

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<v Speaker 1>what made it so special to be a long suffering

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Cubs fan. And you know, and there is some sad

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like the teams that lose a lot, their fans get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of pride because they're obviously not jumping on

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the bandwagon, right, But also it you get more mental

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 1>benefit from winning, then you get mental downside from losing

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>because your mind is like a thermostat right, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only I look at like the super Bowl. Right, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were um, a Tampa Bay fan, it's like a ten, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're at home underdog, you win first time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know teams want at home. But if you're Kansas

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>City Chief Stan, it's not a zero, it's like a

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>six or something, right, because you had a great year.

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 1>You won the a f C. You went, you played

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the game, you went to the super Bowl. So in

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the long run, if your team is most teams in

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the long run of fifty fifty, right, most teams are

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty average other than the Yankees kind of dynasty teams.

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And given your lifetime, your team is fifty fifty, you

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>come out way ahead because you get more from every

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those wins, and you lose from the losses.

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And if you are like the Giant the Knicks, and

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you happen to win ten years from now, that'll be

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>with you for the rest of your life. Like I'm

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a Mets fan, so I can remember six, but I

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>can't remember. I'll tell you who can't remember six is

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>those actual Mets on the team? Yeah you know why? Yeah,

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>well some of them are at a rehab now. Yeah, exactly.

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you remember it. I was just thinking of

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this past weekend Lions at Rams and all the people

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>there in Matthew Stafford Lions jerseys, and I was thinking, Man,

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>these guys have had it bad. Why don't they just

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>take the opportunity to become a Rams fan now? And

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you're on a great team and their quarterback still And

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>but that makes sense what you said, this kind of

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>pride of not jumping off, of long suffering, and it

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>always seems crazy to me, but that makes sense that

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you found that in your research. Yeah. I mean I

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>remember when, like the Saints fans used to wear paper

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>bags over their heads, and but they still went to

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the game. You know, that's the thing, right, They still

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>bought the tickets, they went to the game. They were

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>making a statement, but they were happy to be there.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 1>And they did a study of soccer fans in the

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>UK and found that the fans were more likely to

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>be willing to change religions than change soccer teams. Yeah. Wow,

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>that says it all. That says it all. Did you

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>also find in your in your research for the book

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that it uh broke down biases and hatreds because a

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of times you're rooting for people who are of

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a different ethnicity, different race, sometimes even different sects. Did

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>it open people's minds in that way? Yeah? Absolutely? And

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I was just saying about, like that

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>study in England, I mean the psychologists say, you know,

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>people internalize their fandom of the team so much that

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>the team is like literally a part of our psyche, right,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we believe the team is part of us, or we're

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>part of the team. And so like when Jackie Robinson

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>came in came to the Dodgers, right, a lot of

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers fans were racist. You know, it's been romanticized,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>but the reality is a lot of them more racist,

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and they had to a sort of subconscious choice of

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>am I going to continue to be a Dodgers fan

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>or am I can continue to be racist? And it's

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>easier in a lot of cases for them to accept

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the color rather than turn on their team. And so

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the kind of the more the more

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>understanding part of my title is all about that, the

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of social progress we've made from being sports fans.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling with that right now because Olivia's husband Sam

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Decker plays for the Raptors, and I want to root

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>for that team, but I hate Canadians, so I'm struggling

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>with that. It's really prejudice. I've never heard anyone hate

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Canadians before. What's to hate? Yeah, they're too nice. They

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>have a molested glow, They're too nice. See I'm Midwestern

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're too nice. So I think Canadians and Midwesterners

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>are kind of one and the same. My question for you, Larry,

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was what surprised you the most when you really dug

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>into this, Because I think we all have a feel

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>for what the experience of being a fan is like.

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But what really surprised you. The big thing for me

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was this sort of post traumatic healing power sports has.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I remember nine eleven, right, We just

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>had the twentieth anniversary in the game and when my

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Piazza hit the home run, and I interviewed people who

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>were at that Mets Braves game, and it was the

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 1>first professional sporting event played in New York after nine

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>eleven ten days later, I think, and people like people,

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone remembers when they were on nine eleven. Everyone I

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about that game remembers every detail. Who sang the

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>national anthem, and people said things to me like it

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 1>was the moment when it was okay to smile again,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to clap again, and then the same thing happens with

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like the Boston Marathon bombing. People from New Orleans talked

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>about how much the Saints helped them through, you know,

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>after Hurricane Katrina and the Las Vegas, the one October massacre.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>So I went out there and interviewed people who had

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>been shot and shot at, who told me one after

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>another about how like without the Golden Knights we would

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>not have made it through. And when you people like

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>literally tell you the Golden Knights save them, you can

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>no longer dismiss sports as like trivial or you know,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a waste of time, which some non fans say. So

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that was like my big takeaway from the book was like,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>this is something that's part of the fabric of our

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>society and does even if you don't, even if you're

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>not a sports fan, you benefit from living in a

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.239
<v Speaker 1>world with our sports fans. Wow. Yeah, I mean when

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you think about even how sports were founded by my people,

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the Greeks, the Olympics was sort of like away for

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>them to take a break from fighting, from warring city

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>states to stop fighting and sort of compete and make

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>war kind of civilized war. Do you think sports has

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the potential and maybe the only thing for our hope

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>for world peace. I actually have a chapter in a

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>book called Sports and World Peace, So yes, and you're

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>totally right right that there was. It was a never

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>ending cycle of war they lived in except for the Olympics.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And to me, the big example is South Frica. You know,

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they made that movie UM with Matt Damon and Morgan

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Freeman about the rugby teams, and it's based on a

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.959
<v Speaker 1>really good book called Playing the Enemy. But basically, you know,

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>when Nelson Mandela, when apartheid ended in democracy took over,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone in the world who was following it expected bloody

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>civil war and Nelson Mandela basically averted that by using

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>rugby fandom to smooth the transition of what most historians

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>consider like the greatest peaceful government transition in human history.

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of it is due to sports fans. Now,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>we got to ask because this is a sports betting show.

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to betting, what are the impacts

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of you know, when you look at fantasy sports embetting,

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>what are the impacts of fandom. Yes, So the interesting

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is that it's it's uh, and I look more

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>at fantasy sports because it's just the legalization of betting

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>outside Las Vegas is relatively new, so there's a lot

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>more data on fantasy sports, but there's a big overlap.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>And the the big thing about fantasy sports is it

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>reduces that tribalism of you know, I hate the Red Sox,

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I hate the Yankees because now I have their players

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>on my team. And I have a friend who's who's

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>been really into fantasy football basically since it started and

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>is a huge Washington football team fan, and uh, and

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>he told me it took him like six years before

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>he could take a player from the Cowboys and he

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>kept losing, right, So you know, it's it's created that effect.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>And I actually taught psychologists have already studied this, like

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it makes people hate the other team less, which you know,

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the rivalry is still there, but I think that's good.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's producing like a more well rounded

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>sports fan. That all we gotta do is do, Like

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy politics game started, and so like Democrats have

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to draft Republicans and Republicans have to draft Democrats. Maybe

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that will work there. That's like the best idea I've

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>heard this week. Actually, Larry, you've made me feel a

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>lot better about my career choice too, because sometimes, you know,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have friends who are doctors or are out

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>there help in the world, I'm like, man, I'm just

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a sports reporter. But now I know that I am

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>making people happier, healthier, and more understanding. So I really

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you writing a book that solidifies that. Yeah, and

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked to fans and there are there

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>are doctors, their lawyers, their bricklayers, their cab drivers. You know.

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing about sports fans is they are everyone

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>real jobs. Yeah, not like us, not like your honest

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and me. No, now we can. Yeah, there's a sense

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of importance. I I what you're doing, Olivia, is it.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You're doing a great service to humanity exactly. Thank you,

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Larry, Thank you again for joining us. Great

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff there. Everyone, make sure you pick up this book

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>called Fans, How Watching Sports makes Us happier, healthier, and

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>more understanding. It's available now. Larry thinks again my pleasure.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Now let's keep the discussion going,

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and we are bringing in a new guest. She's the

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>host of cheddar Bets and the Backup Plan podcast. Hannah,

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Stop Chuck is in the building now, Hannah. I go

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on your show every Thursday. It's really fun to have

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you now on my show. This is on our turf.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you think so far? I mean so far

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's totally different than what we do at our show.

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just so happy to have this exchange with

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you once again. Olivia, I talked to you every Thursday

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>afternoon four thirty pm. That's when you can catch shutter

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Bets thirty pm Eastern. But yeah, it's nice to be able,

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, to have you asked me the questions this

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>time of up right, I'll ask much easier questions than

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you normally ask me to. Yeah, we get we get

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>down a business on Thursdays on cheddar Bets. That's a

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun I do. We don't have a lot

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of time. We like just get right into it. Yes, yes,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>now we will get to more sports storylines in a second.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>But did you bet on Imon Schumpert to win Dancing

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Stars, because that looks pretty strong right now.

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I am so obsessed with Evan Champfort on Dancing with

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the Stars. You guys watch the show, yeah, a little bit? Okay,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>So like Opening Night he came out with this thing.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. I think it was the jive.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He did something to outcause, I mean, I don't know

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>how tall is he's like six nine. I'm gonna just guess,

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>but normally you look like so awkward. I don't know

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if you guys saw Little more Oude him on Dancing Stars.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Stiff is a board and Emon just kills it. I'm

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of his family, his wife. They have

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a show on E like I fan girl over him.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So every week I vote for Emon Champert. I have

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>no shave. It's like so embarrassing. It looks like like

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>my phone and says like Emon Imon Emon, It looks insane,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>but gotta do it. I can't believe you guys don't watch.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I just catch highlights the highlight reel, be honest, do

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you watch? No, after he left it next, I stopped catching.

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I stopped. I just stopped paying attention to him. You know,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I liked him in the Kanye video. No, that was

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>his wife. He was in it two I guess, No,

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>he was in it two and he's got a body

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>on him. He's a he's got a hot bod. I

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>have to go watch this. I had no idea his

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>wife as a hot bod. Oh yeah, they both too,

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>they both have a hot bod. But yeah, I mean

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>not dancing with the stars just bothers me because it

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>should be called, you know, dancing with the G League

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>or dancing with the C list. I think it's more jealous. Yeah,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>would you turn it down? Yeah? I would turn it

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>down for sure, because I can't dance. What Yeah, Olivia,

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>would you turn it down? I would do it in

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>a heartbeat. But I would do anything for the right

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>amount in a heartbeat. Okay, I've got a question for you,

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because I know you're closely following the NBA and the

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons storyline is wacky, and every day it seems

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a new development. Do you think it is the

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>best or worst story in sports right now? Okay? I

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>would have argued that it was the best story in

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.479
<v Speaker 1>sports right now before he came out and said that

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he was having issues with his mental health, because then

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that like it totally switches gears here, because

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>if if that's legitimate, like if that's the case. I

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>mean they said that he was going under evaluation, and

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's for his back or for

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>his mental space. So like, if if that's the case,

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>then this becomes so serious and he should take a break,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he should be able to stop what he's doing

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and get in that, you know, the mental space that

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>he needs and then go back and hopefully play for

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the Sixers, you know, for as long as he needs to,

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and then get out of there, but get out of

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>there on a good note and not not whatever is

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>happening right now with the team. I feel like everybody

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>has his back, Like I saw Tobias Harris talking about it,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and I just feel like the team wants to support him,

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>but we really have no idea what's going on. It

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>was like really fun for a minute. I mean, I

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>like to trash Doctor Sixers anyways, have I'm a heat fan,

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So but I think that now it gets serious because

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>of his mental health issues and we know what happened.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>It was Simone Bios right, and then Naomi Osaka, like

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people have talked about

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>mental health issues recently and they've made it known that like, hey,

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>this is serious, Like this is serious for everyone in

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the world, not even just athletes. So I think that

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>changes things, and I think that people now need to

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>respect him and just kind of let him figure this

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>out on his own pace because it could be a while.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Are we sure that's what it is though, because he's

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>demanding a trade, right he wants I mean, isn't one

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>of the things that he's saying is he just wants

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out of Philly. I saw that Darryl Morey was on

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>like this radio station in Philly though, talking about it,

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and he said that this could go on for four years,

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>which is insane. Can you imagine? I mean, I think

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he has he has a four year contract, right, so

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>like the four years of this and then he even

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>this is the president of some some of the Sixers

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>even compared it to go to a hunt, much like

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that. I don't know where that fits.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he's talking about. Really, No, I

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.919
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's Maybe yeah, it could mean that maybe

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>he met a nice young lady in the off season

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and she lives in Kalamazoo and he wants a trade

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to some team in Kalamazoo because he wants to go

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>see about a girl. That's what right? How do you like? Yeah,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>he wants about a girl. Since you're a he fan,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this question. Tyler Hero has said

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that he you know, he's very boisterous. He said he

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>belongs in the conversation with Luca and Trey Young. Take

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>your bias out of it as the Miamm girl you're from,

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>le mea me and just is he as good as

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>those guys from his class? He can be. I don't

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>think he is. I don't think he is right now,

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>but he can be. And I think he was for

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>a minute, I think he was. I mean, I'm a

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Jack Harlow fan as well. I think Jack Harlo would

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>great with me. But I think that I think that

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>he can be. What do you guys think? Well, that

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is like the coolest best friend group. Also, by the way,

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I totally with you. I actually know Tyler Hero pretty well.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>He's from Wisconsin and he's come up to our house

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>in Cheboygan to come shoot hoops and with my husband

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't know what did I know? But I

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>watched And this is before he was drafted, and he

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what Lake Lake, Michigan was and he grew

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>up on Lake Michigan, so I had a little problem.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't shake that story out of my head. For

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>all the Markles just say he was like really focused.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not on the geography, but yeah, I know. I

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>think when we saw him in the bubble, right, that's

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the Tyler hero that we're thinking of. But last season

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely fell off. He's a new father, he has a

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of exciting things going on in his life. But

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you would agree hand at Miami it is

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 1>a pretty distracting town, right, And he's a young guy.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And I saw the flash, so I don't know if

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the best location for him to be in. I

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>used to cover the heat. I used to work with

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>them when I was working for a network down south,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and I used to go out and I would see

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 1>the guys out all the time. I mean, like they

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely like if they say they're not out, it's a

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>live total throughout every single day. So that's so bad.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that. It's probably not it's probably not

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>totally true, but you know what I'm saying. I agre

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>with what you're saying, and I'm only coming at it

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>from a place of jealousy because my husband plays in Toronto.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just it's ready where this is coming from.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, look like the Lakers after just two games,

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they've already showed signs that they may have worse chemistry

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>than j Cutler and Kristen Cavalari for an example. But

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you just look at them, and I know it's early.

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I know it's early, But can russ A, d Mellow,

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Lebron and Dwighte work in l A if they're not,

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, putting their fingers in each other's faces on

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the bench. I have no idea. What do you think

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>about this Lakers team? I really think they look they

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>look a bit like a mess. I couldn't believe that

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the Grizzlies were almost three and now and then the

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Lakers want against them. And I thought, by the way,

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing about that game was that Ziah Williams,

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>who is who plays for Memphis, was one of Brawnie's

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Brawnnie james former teammates. Crazy, so Lebron James was playing

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>against like a regular season NBA game against one of

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>his son's former high school teammates. So I think that

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that shows like how much the game is

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>changing and how different everyone is. That like these old

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 1>vets really got to get used to it, and I

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>think they have to switch it up a bit. I

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do. I

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>think that little skirmish on the sidelines that we saw

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 1>between A d and Dwight Howard shows that they may

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>not make a great team, but they would make a

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>great real world episode if we can film those guys.

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>If you put those guys on a team and we

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>just roll cameras, I think we're going to see a

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of drama. I don't see it working. It's crazy

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>how the as like everyone goes to those games, regardless

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of how well they're doing, to see and be seen.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of the Knicks. Like the Knicks can

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, the whole teams on fire, and

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>still you have like the best celebrities in the front

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>row watching going to watch them. I just I'm like,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>where is what's everyone doing? There's nothing else going on tonight?

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Well we're doing with the Knicks. It's again very early,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>but here we are trying to diagnose who's good who's not.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Is it possible that the Knicks end up with a

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:32.720
<v Speaker 1>better record than the Nets. I mean, I'd be shocked.

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd be shocked, and just at the state of like

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>New York teams in general, I'd be shocked. I don't

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's been going well for them. I don't think

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I would think it's going well for them. I mean, besides, besides,

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Yankees said a minute, but like, I

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>think New York teams have a couple of years of

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, is that terrible to say. I mean,

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about them as a whole, like they all

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>need to change at the same time. But really, it's

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it has become like a problem. This is not the

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>year New York. And this is a big New York fan.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.959
<v Speaker 1>What your teams are Giants and Nicks, not Nets, right, Yeah,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a Knicks fan, and I think the

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Knicks might have a chance. They just don't have the

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>distractions the Nets have right now. I mean, I don't

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>think there's just a bunch of like anti VAXs mandate

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>protesters trying to break into the garden. So that's a

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>good thing for the Knicks right now. Yeah, It's never

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a good thing when your season is kind of hinging

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>on a mayoral race because that is going to drastically

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>affect what they're able to do with the vaccine with Kyrie.

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's not I think for another month. But that

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>whole storyline is crazy that that can really affect this team.

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, probably. And the Knicks had that

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>huge win over the Magic, and then I think they

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>got so cocky that when they played them again, they

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like forgot that they needed to still bring it and

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it was just embarrassing that. I mean, the Magic are

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.959
<v Speaker 1>like in a rebuilding phase, so I think to lose

0:43:56.000 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to them just kind of changes the tone. I'll say it. Now,

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Nick's are going to make the playoffs, and there is

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a good chance they have a better record than the

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Nets because I think there's just too much drama in Brooklyn.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they can rise above the drama. I'm ready

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to see them. I'm ready to see them be like

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the team of New York. Honestly, I kind of agree.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Too many accomplished, tested, veteran players on that team to

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>let this get away from him, I think, yeah, absolutely.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I know I don't want to be labor the point,

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>but when has a team with so many egos really

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>worked out, you know, like Miami. I guess the Celtics too,

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>with the Big three. Okay, I made a bad point. Yeah,

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>there we go, There we go. I mean that's really

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>the only time. I can't think of it the other time,

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and they always last for the shortest amount of time.

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I will say that that's true. Okay, I'll just I'll

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>take a mellow. I'll take a mellow jab though, what

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>when has a team with Carmelo on it ever worked out?

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>So the Lakers are doomed? Great point. I went to

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Syracuse and so I used to be like a huge

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Mellow fan for that reason only, and then I realized that,

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>like it was actually embarrassing to rep Mellow as intensely

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>as I was. So that's when I was just like,

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm going to settle and on being

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a Heat fan and I'm going to stay away that

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this is when he was with the next so right,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's he's really gone through it, like he's

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a bet through and through. And I mean he actually

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't play too bad this past weekend. He was like

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>really holding it down for the team. But I think

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 1>those games are hot, very hot and cold when it

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>comes to him. Yeah, I agree. Well, Hannah, that's all

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the time we have. Thank you so much for joining

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>us talking a little hoops. It's early, but it's so

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>fun to dig our claws into the NBA. So we

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it absolutely, and I'm sure I'll talk to

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>you later this week on cheddar Bets. Yes, we will.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Ever make sure you check out chadar Bets. Hannah and

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I really get into it and we stopped messing around

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like we do on our show, and you can follow

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Hannah on Twitter at Hannah a stop check. Thanks so

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. Thank you by Hannah Begay. Two

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>amazing interviews with two amazing people, both writers, both journalists,

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 1>both beautiful, but not as beautiful as our own bet

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<v Speaker 1>MGM Betting Expert bandelists. However you want to say it

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<v Speaker 1>in Greek, Peter Andrew, how are you doing, my friend?

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you for the Hell's nice. Yeah, good to

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>see you. Let's hop right into a little MBA because

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we touched upon it with Hannah and the season is

0:46:55.680 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>often running. We have two unexpected, exciting good teams who

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>are undefeated. Talk to me about the Chicago Bulls and

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>your squad down there with Michael Jordan's Charlotte Hornets. I

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's just three words, big ball brand, right, yeah, Lonza, Chicago, LaMelo,

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe lo Angelo at some point in Charlotte. I

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 1>think LaMelo first. I know I'm a little bit a

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a homer here as a Hornets fan,

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>but they look really good, and they Jael when he

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.399
<v Speaker 1>plays well, and the first couple of games he's looked

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>really good. I mean puts points off at will. He's

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>an underrated shooter, but but obviously his passing is unbelievable.

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>He had one yesterday. Gordon Hayward No look in the corner.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just ridiculous. Both of them look

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 1>really good, and you're starting to see some of those

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>bulls moves. You know, they're starting to make a ton

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of sense where you don't just need a superstar or

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 1>two superstars with three superstars. When you have a team

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>that can gel, they can win games. And I think

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at the Bucks last year as that example

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>where there's just a lot of players that do you know,

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>do their job, know their role. You obviously need that

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>big guy like a Yanni sword, like a LaMelo or whoever.

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But they look great and there's some really good value.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Just you know, I'm not gonna say they're gonna win

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the title because that's a bit of a long shot.

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>But the Hornets to win their division plus twelve hundred

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>also win, there's plus a thousand. It's not a bad bet.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And if they go in a bit of a streak,

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that number is gonna drop a bit. You're gonna see

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it at six hundred, So a good time to take

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>it now. And and then conversely to that, you have

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of teams that maybe have started a bit slow,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Lakers as an example, Maybe see their price just jump

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit and maybe it's a good opportunity

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to get them. So it's it really is. It's crazy

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>starts the seasons only ben a couple of games, but

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>but super exciting for somebod these kind of up and

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>coming teams. Yeah, I was gonna ask you that when

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 1>we're recording. These teams that we're talking about are three

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and oh and you mentioned their values still pretty good.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much has it jumped since preseason for

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to win their division? Yeah, it's been a little. I

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>would say it's nothing more than maybe you know, plus

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a hundred. Ever, takes. So if it isn't crazy, but

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 1>it's the point of getting it now before they go.

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, hornets as things they will win against self knit,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a pretty decent team. Rattle off a couple more you'll

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 1>start seeing on the fold. But like you said, it's

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, it is just the beginning of the the season.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>A lot of as play. I just want to make

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.479
<v Speaker 1>this quick point because I unleashed on the seventy five list.

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I just remembered the Detroit Pistons who won a championship.

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Not one of those players was on the seventy five

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.919
<v Speaker 1>all time list, And I love your points about great

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>teams and everyone doing their role. So I just want

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to take another jab at that seventy five lists. I mean,

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>those teams, they had some pretty good players. They weren't superstars,

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 1>but Dan Rashid rip right, all those guys they played

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>their partner with dogs in the paint. Absolutely, And my

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>point was like, let's stop extolling only individual players and

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the greatest teams of all time.

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:48.919
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, that Detroit Pistons team defense Baby,

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Ben Wallace, Baby, I'm with Let's get back to the

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>NFL too. I'm looking right now at futures odds and

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray with the Cardinals still leads the packet plug

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 1>us three fifty and they take on my Green Bay

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Packers on Thursday night and what should be one of

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the best games not only of the weekend, but I

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>think in this first half of the season. I think

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>that's a good place to start. Packers are on the

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>road and they are three and a half point dog.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's kind of break this one down and look at it,

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because you know that's my team. But I'm having a

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>hard time going against the Cardinals here. Yeah, I think

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals. What scares me is how how many, you know,

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>weapons they do have. They've got a couple of running backs,

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>they got James Conner, they got Chase Edmons, they have

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>a couple of receivers other than DeAndre Hopkins that can

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>catch small a j. Green, and then you're seeing this

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>emergence of Christian Kirk too. And that's not even going

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>into they just acquired Zach Ertz just a week ago.

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>That's six pretty good weapons. And talking about Kyler what

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>he can do with his feet, you know, there was

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>probably been a concern role in the season that you know,

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>this is Kyler's maker break here. This is the coaching

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>staff maker break here. They are a really really good team.

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Their defense is shown out I know in fantasy football

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>right now they're the number one defense, so they're making

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>turn numbers when they need to. They are a really

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.280
<v Speaker 1>really tough team, especially when you go into Arizona into Glendale.

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>So this is an interesting one. Be interesting to see

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>what you take Olivia here, whether you go over your

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>head or your heart. Well, you're honestly go first. Who

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>are you picking in this one? Okay? Well you know,

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm the only one loyal too, because you

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>have Olivia. You apparently have two teams, and it's convenient

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>whenever you want to mention you're, Yeah, you're a Kansas

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>City Chief fan when you want to talk about them.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>And then you always call Green Bay your team because

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you grew up watching Green Bay. So I don't trust

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:42.799
<v Speaker 1>your father that I can throw you. Okay, I'll just

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>say that right now, because I'll take the Green Bay Packers.

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll be the loyal one year, okay. I I love

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a world look. I love the way they're looking. I

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 1>love how the goat is looking. I love his his

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Optionsvante Adams rais cop I love it. I'm going with

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. Baby, I am too, So just back up

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>your hate truck because I am also taking it. Because

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>if the Packers were to win and I took the Cardinals,

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't forgive myself. And I agree. I guess I

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just have a bad taste in my mouth still from

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>week one and from the off season, and a part

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of me feels like this great season they're putting together

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>could crash and burn at anytime. But yeah, I'm sticking

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 1>with my team. I'm sticking with my guys. And by

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm not the only person. I have two fans.

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You just heard Larry Olms said say that it makes

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>us happier and healthier. So I am happy and healthy

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>with my two teams. You honest, that's good point, and

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it's good to know that you still have a little

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of a heart left, just a little. There's two

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.720
<v Speaker 1>things of thought here. You can go and not forgive

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>yourself if you picked the Cardinals, or you can do

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the emotional hedge. You picked the Cardinals and then either

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>way you win. Right, So then if the Packers one,

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like on my team one. But if the Cardinals,

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>one honest is, probably got a speech lined up for

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>next week exactly. Nice time, Peter. I don't think so.

0:52:55.520 --> 0:53:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that works, but you get it. Okay,

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>what's the next game? Next game? Interesting one? Uh, Brown's

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty shaken up. So Brown's against the Steelers team that

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I think is underwhelmed most people as well. What are

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys like there? Uh? You want me to go first, Olivia,

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>or you want to go first? Um, I'll go quick

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and short Browns for me. I'm gonna go with because no, no,

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear a reason Baker's must be back

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. Not that case Kingdom was bad, but I

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 1>just think when you have your starting quarterback, everything is

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more in sync. So I'm gonna go

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 1>with Baker. Okay, I'm going with the Steelers. There we go.

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We got a disagreement there. I think they look a

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>little revitalized. I think they may go on a little

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>run before they fall apart. So they're gonna win this game,

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>all right. Last one, probably the most impressive performance of

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of this weekend is past weekend Tennessee Titans, and they're

0:53:56.560 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>all pro quarterback not Ryan Tannehill. Rrick Henry, uh said

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry and minus one against another strong performance the

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Colts plus once. So Colts at home basically pick up

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 1>what you laders like here. Well, I'm really surprised that

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:15.919
<v Speaker 1>line is only at one. That seems very surprising after

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>how great the Titans beat up on the Chiefs this

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>last weekend. I cannot believe Indie is projected when I'm

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 1>just looking at matchup predictor. Indie's fifty three percent supposed

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to win, so they're the one point underdog. I'm going

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>with Tennessee here. They looked unstoppable last weekend. I like

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 1>what I saw. I like what I saw in the

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>late game on Sunday. I really like RICE saw on

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the defensive ent. I'm going with the Cults Indianapolis. I

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 1>stand with you. This is an interesting one to see

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>how this shakes out throughout the week because I don't

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>think that line is gonna stay at I can see Tennessee,

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 1>especially we have a loyal Tennessee fan base. I can

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>see that, you know, going up to two and a

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.399
<v Speaker 1>half three points so be really interesting. But I think

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the games the week, along with the

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>doctor skarts. Okay, well, now let's get to it. The

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>winner of our punishment picks. It came down a Sunday night,

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.919
<v Speaker 1>like we just mentioned in the colds forty Niners game.

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>What a nail biter, and that was what did me in.

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it that I took forty niners. Jimmy

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>G was back, even though I called him a candy

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 1>corn bitch earlier. Jimmy G was back, that beautiful son

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of a gun, and they lost it. Joanna's had the cold,

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>so Joanna's congratulations. Thank you. I love hearing you say

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that every time. Okay, so I gotta read it, read

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it first time. My eyes are seeing these nasty words

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>lined up together, and your sick brain came up with

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.240
<v Speaker 1>let's see what I got. Read it like you meet it, Olivia,

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like you meet it, like you wrote it. Okay, like

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you wrote it. Jeez. I'm nervous every time. I gotta

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>start winning this damn game. Okay, thanks for listening everyone.

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Now everything seems right again. Yanni the Great is back

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>on top. Anyway, I want all my fans to know

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.439
<v Speaker 1>that whatever the fake news says in the next couple

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of days, I was not in Washington, d C. The

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>night of storming the Capitol Yacht is also to all

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the girls I made crying grade school. In high school,

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not true, because I was most deaf, a mean

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:26.720
<v Speaker 1>girl cheerleader. I want to say, ha ha, I'm still

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>beating you witches. I'm on a show with the best

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 1>comedian inde world. Happy Halloween, bitches, how many bitches before

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>my mom? I really? I'm off to watch some Hope

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 1>is Focus, drink some pumpkin spice lap Days, and put

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>on one of Sam's sweaters and fuzzy socks because it's

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 1>boots weather and I'm a basic bitch. Okay to shake

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>because I've been calling you that, I'll show. Yeah, that's

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>number five. That's you're starting five. Five bitches from oh

0:56:55.800 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>h d mom. That is our show. Make sure everyone

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.640
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0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:07.080
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0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.680
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