1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. Market's a little look, 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: a little rough this morning. We'll discuss this is a 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: time for a rate cut at the FED. Trump certainly 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: thinks so he's losing patience with Jerome Powell. Obviously the 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: biggest news story today, we will dive into it shortly. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Here is the passing of Pope Francis. You got billions 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: of Catholics around the world very very much dialed into 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the legacy, the life and legacy of Pope Francis. So 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: we shall discuss some of that. Jade Vance just met 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: with him on Sunday. So it does seem a bit 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: sudden that all of a sudden the Pope is no more. 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: They're going to have to elect a new one. The 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: conclave's gonna get together, the smoke's gonna have to come 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: out of the chimney, all that stuff. So we shall 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: discuss that. The first Jesuit Pope, which is I think interesting, 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: and the first let's American pope. Those are the two standouts, 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: at least in terms of his bio. We can talk 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: about some of his policies and some of his well, 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: some of what he stood for, some of what he said. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Coming up here. We've got updates on immigration and deportation, 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: specifically Democrats still making kill Abrego Garcia one of their 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: great causes some when they are very concerned with returning 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: to the United States so that we can deport him again. 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Just want to be clear. I don't think anyone believes 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: that that is not what the end state of the 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: legal system would be. But we got to bring him 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: back so we can deport him the right way. They say, 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: is he remember of remis thirteen? Yeah, but maybe they'll 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: say he's not. Depends on the day. So we have 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: more on that for all of you. Also, Clay, I 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting. There's reporting the Wall Street Journal 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that the Trump administration is considering different ways to encourage 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: having kids a pro I guess it's a pro natalism policy, 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: having more babies they want. Trump wants more babies, probably 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: as many babies as we can have. So you know, 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: certainly Elon's doing his best to help out there. Elon, 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: you could say he's a pioneer. I'm not sure everybody 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: would agree with the way he's doing it, but you 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: could say he's a pioneer in the natalism world. In 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the pro he's definitely pro baby making. That part of 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: it we could all agree on. But Clay, I was 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning. I think nationwide about twenty percent. 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh wait, sorry, before we get into that, and they're 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: going after Pete Hegxeth again. They really want they really 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: want that sec def scalp the media. It's not going 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: to happen. It's a lot of retread of old stories 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: and everything else. They're not going to get it. But 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: you can tell they're really turning up the heat on 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: him more than anyone else the administration, which I think 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: for a lot of us indicates well, that means we 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: definitely want him to stay. That means he's shaking things 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: up in a way that makes the bad people uncomfortable. 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: But okay, now the pope, let's get to play. What 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: are you like, you're a Methodist or something, a Southern Baptist? 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Where are you Southern Baptist? So so, yeah, I was 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: not a pope officionado growing up. Didn't know a lot 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: about the pope. But you'll remember a couple of years 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: ago and it was one of the most awesome trips 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: of my life. I got to go. I took my 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: kids and we went to Rome, and we toured the Vatican, 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: and we got to experience what it is like, the pomp, 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the circumstance, the majesty that surrounds everything having to do 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: with the Catholic Church. So I was not raising the 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Catholic Church, and don't have a ton of experience other 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: than going to a few funerals, a few weddings that 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: are in the Catholic faith. But I certainly appreciate the 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: the the impact and the power, like I said, of 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: the Vatican, and know and follow as a news story 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: the selection of the new pope and find it to 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: be very intriguing in the way that it takes place, 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: with the white smoke and and the pope, papal enclaves 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: and everything else, conclaves and everything else that's associated with 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: You are the expert, however, on the selection of the 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: next pope, as it pertains, that's visionous. The expert of 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: may not be a high standard, but the expert I'm 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: not gonna There's a lot of you listening who know 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot more about about this pope and about the 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: latest things going on within the church compared to me. 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: I did. I went to Jesuit school, and he was 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: a Jesuit of the Society of Jesus, of that order 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: and the first one ever to become pope, which is interesting. 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: As I said, he's Argentine or I never know if 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: it's Argentine or Argentinian, but we'll just go with Argentinian. 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: He's Argentinian by birth. The the the interesting things about 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: about this pope, I mean, one is he on some 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: things that matter very much. And I want to expand 88 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: this discussion out so it's not just about because for 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people, if you're if you're a practicing Catholic, 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the Pope is obviously the head of the church, very important, 91 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the Vicar of Christ here on earth, Lord's Pontiff, all 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: that stuff. But there's also bigger issues that he was 93 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: addressing that I think had a lot of impact. We 94 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: have about a billion and a half Catholics around the world, 95 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of Catholics. I know many of 96 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: you listening are of different Protestant Deanni. I'd say, what 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: do you think, I would guess this is what I 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: was going to say before. I would think our audience 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: is a little more Catholic than the nation overall. I 100 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: would say it's probably more like thirty percent of our 101 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: listeners are Catholic. I would guess twenty percent I think 102 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: is the national number. I would say we're probably more 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: like thirty percent here. You know, I don't think we 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: have quite as many like far left atheist types listening, 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: So you know you're going to have more. You're going 106 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: to have more people who are Christian of religious faith 107 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: so than a much bigger denomina or much bigger chunk 108 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I think would be Protestant. But anyway, Clay, I mean, 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: here is where it came down for a lot of people. 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: This is a pope who did not allow priests to marry, 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: did not move on the issue of abortion, and still 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: was ardently pro life, did not have any policies particularly 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: that advanced like the transagenda. So there were some areas 114 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: where he was a traditionalist. The problem is he was 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: a big climate change guy, and he was somebody who 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: spoke a lot about about social justice but also in 117 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the context of being effectively open borders, and I just 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. Now, he wasn't speaking ex 119 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: cathedra on those issues, which means it's not considered church doctrine. 120 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: It's not from from God through the pope to his 121 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: to his flock. But I didn't agree on those things. 122 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: So there's some there's some stuff that I liked. And 123 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's a big move toward more traditional Christianity 124 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: and traditional Catholicism more specifically in this country, Clay right now, 125 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: because people have realized a lot of the secular left 126 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: wing stuff is a bridge to nowhere. Yeah, I think 127 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: there is a increasing search for meaning and I think 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that certainly is translating with young men. I just finished 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: the first draft of the book that I'm writing about 130 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: why Trump was able to have such success with young 131 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: men and why that has continued, and why the Republican 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Party is having such success with young men. I think 133 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of young men and increasingly young women too, 134 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: are aware that they have been sold something that is untrue. 135 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: That is, and again, anytime we talk about this, people 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: are because they don't have this particular lifestyle. But I'll 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: just say it. I mean, you just had a baby. 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: The best possible formation for raising children is husband and wife, 139 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: nuclear family, and one of those individuals is able to 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: be the primary caregiver. That is a reason that has 141 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: endured for thousands and thousands of years. That doesn't mean 142 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: that some of you out there can't both have fabulous jobs, 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: and there can't be daycare, and there can't be parents, 144 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: and I mean grandparents and aunts and uncles and brothers 145 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and sisters and all these other different individuals that are 146 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: involved in raising kids. It is incredibly important. I think 147 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of what has been sold to women in particular, 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: and I'm fired up on this because I just finished 149 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: writing this section of my book, but to women in particular. 150 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: If you went back in time Buck to the nineteen 151 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: sixties and you told a single young man, hey, what's 152 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: the world that you would most like to embody to 153 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: find in the world, I think you would probably hear 154 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: that single young man describe the lifestyle that exists now 155 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: for men. That is women's empowerment. And this is going 156 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: to get people riled up too, but to a large extent, 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: women's empowerment I think has actually given men everything they wanted. 158 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: And think about it for a minute. Now, for young men, 159 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you have never had to work less in order to 160 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: have access to tons of pretty girls. You don't even 161 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: have to take them out on dates. Now you can 162 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: send twenty different text messages of you up. And this 163 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: is the reality of the world that exists now. If 164 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: you're sixteen to thirty five and you're single out there 165 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: and Buck you just went through it. Now you're married. 166 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of women and men are 167 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: not coming together. They're not getting married, they're not having children, 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: and we are learning that trying to make women more 169 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: like men and men more like women actually means that 170 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't like each other as much as they otherwise would. 171 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: They like the sexes to be different. And this idea 172 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: that you can be any gender, or babies, sometimes doctors 173 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: get babies wrong. I think you're seeing a profounder fudiation 174 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: of this era, and I wonder the reflection of who 175 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: they are going to select as the next pope. It's 176 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: fine to be in some way welcoming of difference, but 177 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: at some point in time you do need to recognize 178 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: that there is traditional value in the decisions that have 179 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: been made for thousands of years. And I see that 180 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: all kind of coming together in terms of the decision 181 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: they make as to who the next pope is. I 182 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: think one thing that is true irrespective of time or 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: culture or anything else, is that for human happiness to flourish, 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: you actually need to care about something more than you 185 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: care about yourself. That a focus on the self and 186 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: the deep and really malignant narcissism that is I think 187 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: really a defining characteristic of culture for young people today. 188 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it has been for a longer time than that, 189 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: but the self obsession with what I want, what I need, 190 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: when I want it is is just a pathway to 191 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: one happiness I think in the long run and maybe 192 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: even in the short run. And I think that when 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: people look to things like family and faith and and 194 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: what really matters and causes beyond themselves, that they can 195 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: actually impact or effect, which is a very important This 196 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: is where you know this is Pope is very into 197 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: social justice. I think social justice for a lot of people, 198 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and the cause is including things like climate change that 199 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: go under that clay. Is often an easy way out 200 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: for people because saying that you you know, you want 201 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: equal pay, or saying that you stand for climate change 202 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: or Ukraine or the or you know, Fouchi or whatever 203 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: it is, whatever your new quasi religion is of the moment, 204 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: that's easy and can make people in the short term 205 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves. But it's empty because it requires 206 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: no discipline and no effort, and there's nothing that you're 207 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: really doing, whereas helping somebody in your family or helping 208 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: somebody in your community who really is in a desperate situation, 209 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: taking action that sacrifices your own immediate comforts and interest 210 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: for other people, and doing that on a daily basis, 211 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: tending to your own flock those around you. That I 212 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: think is a far more tried and true way to 213 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: achieve purpose, which is really what our modern culture, because 214 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: we live lives generally play have so much convenience. Every 215 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: food is delicious, entertainment is everywhere. You know, sex has 216 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: been cheapened and easy for most people to get, or 217 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, or they just do only fans or what 218 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: all this stuff, all the you know, endorphin and serotonin 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: rush that people are constantly chasing. I think what they 220 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: really want is purpose, And whether you're twenty or eighty, 221 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: I think purpose is the thing that leads to more lasting, 222 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: real happiness in a deep philosophical sense. And I think 223 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: that that's the role of the Catholic Church place for 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: bringing it in a full circle for a lot of people. 225 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: The relationship with God. Those who believe in Christ and 226 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: his resurrection. We've just had Easter. Happy Easter to all 227 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: of you who celebrate. I think that this is a 228 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: moment for people who even if you're not a Catholic, 229 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: even if you're not a Christian, there can be reflection 230 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: on this, but certainly for Catholics and Christians, what are 231 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: we all doing to live the faith that we profess 232 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: and to actually take what we know about a good 233 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: life and put it into action. Because we live in 234 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: a social media hashtag and don't use hashtags anymore, but 235 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, we live in a selfie, uber, eats, Netflix, quick, 236 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: fast and easy culture, and I think that's a big 237 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: parklay of what leads to so much unhappiness. I also 238 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: think to your point, if people don't have a larger purpose, 239 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: they will find it, and sometimes they find it in politics, 240 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: which I think has happened on the left in particular. 241 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: A lot of these, in my opinion, women who would 242 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: otherwise have been raising families have decided that the Democrat 243 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Party is the family they don't otherwise have. And I 244 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: think there's a profound sadness there, honestly, that that is 245 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: where you would choose to find your sense of purpose 246 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: is entirely in the political realm and entirely with one 247 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: political party, but deep thoughts to start off a Monday morning, 248 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: as we are coming out of the Easter holiday, and 249 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: as the Pope, who I think it's kind of fair 250 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: to say shockingly has passed because he was just public 251 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and there seemed to be some idea that he 252 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: had come through the worst of his health related conditions 253 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: when it seemed like he might pass, and then he's 254 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: public yesterday and then overnight he passed. 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Support IFCJ dot org. 274 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim 275 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: your sanity with Clay and Fun. Find them on the 276 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 277 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Lots of 278 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: drama over the weekend. There is a renewed push was 279 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: texting with Buck Sunday night to try and get Pete. 280 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Hegseth out as defense secretary. He has been the primary 281 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: target so far. Buck. I'm a little bit surprised, even 282 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: compared to RFK Junior, that he's been the guy that 283 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: they've gone after the most. I think it's part of it, 284 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: at least, is the frustration that they have that they 285 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: went all in and this was they thought the first 286 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: domino to fall. This was the first scout they would get, 287 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and they really didn't get close. Trump was like, this 288 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: is my guy, and he's come out again and said 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: this is still my guy. Pete is great, he is 290 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: my secretary of Defense. But you know how it is, 291 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: they they are they're bitter about this now now they 292 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: want to go in even more and try to remove 293 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, and heg Seth was just there having 294 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the White House Easter role on with Trump in the 295 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: Eastern and everything else, and quickly here here's Pete Hegsath. 296 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: We'll react a bit to this as well. 297 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: What a big surprise that a few leakers get fired 298 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from 299 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: the same media that pedaled the Russia hopes won't get 300 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: back their pulitzers. They got Pultzers for a bunch of lies, 301 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: pulcers for a bunch of lies and on hoaxes time 302 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: and time and time again. And as they pedal those lies, 303 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: no one ever calls them on. 304 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: See, this is what the media does. 305 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees and then 306 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations. 307 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: Not gonna work with me because we're changing the Defense department, 308 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: putting the Pentagon back in the hands of war fighters, 309 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: and anonymous smears from disgruntled former employees on old news 310 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. 311 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's put this one to bed that 312 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: they didn't even put a scratch on him this time. So, 313 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: but I like the what were the twuns in the 314 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: background there? They had like a brass band playing where 315 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, that's that's the easter egg role. 316 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: It's evidently a fun thing. All they need is a 317 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: flute player and they're good to go. Switch yourself own 318 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: service to pure Talk. Get the lowest priced, excellent in 319 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Quirly wireless a service available today. You'll start by saving 320 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: fifty bucks or more every month. And when you switch 321 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: to pure Talk, remember you keep your phone in your number. 322 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm on pure Talk. 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And 341 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: by the way, I'll take some of your calls and 342 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: talkbacks on this at the at the back of this hour. 343 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about the Pope at all, 344 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: what he meant to you, or if you disagree. As 345 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: a Catholic, I know he was very anti the Latin mass. 346 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: I would actually as a I'm coming back to it, 347 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: I will tell you I always want to be very 348 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: honest with his audience. You know. I was raised quite 349 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: Catholic in terms of the practice, right, going everything, all 350 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: the sacraments, Jesuit school. I went to Catholic school and 351 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: then Jesuit High School, and then I went to Amherst 352 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: which was Communists, which actually made me more. I was 353 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: one of the few people I remember seeing Justice Scalia's daughter. 354 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: There was like an on campus church service. There are 355 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: very few of us. I'm like, huh, like she's here, 356 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, she's cool. There are very few of us, though, 357 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: who would go to church on campus. I was one 358 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: of them. And I want to get back to it 359 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: now that I'm a father and I think more about 360 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: the future of my family and also you know, the 361 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: future like eternity and everlasting life all that. So I'm 362 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: trying to get back to it. I'll be honest with you. 363 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who has you know, my mother is very 364 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: devout and so she's probably listening. Mom. I'm working on it. 365 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm working on it. I bring this up, Clay, just 366 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: because I do think I have feelings on I still 367 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: have feelings on all this, right. I don't claim to 368 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: be an expert, but I have feelings on it all. 369 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: I think the Latin mass would be really really meaningful 370 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. I think that the traditions 371 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: of the church are in so many ways the strength 372 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: of the church and the anyway, that's my feeling. I 373 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: think liberalizing it, no, no, no, actually not a good idea. 374 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: I think some of the liberal stuff that's gone on 375 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: with the church has been a bad idea. That all said, 376 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: that's one loss. The loss of Pope francis the other 377 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: loss that the media is giving a lot of attention to. 378 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: Not quite as much as the pope today because that 379 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: just happened. But Clay, the loss from America of ki 380 00:20:53,840 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Abrego Garcia, Yes, a very different Latin American fellow than insist, 381 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: and he is somebody that they have really decided to 382 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: make the symbol of Trump resistance right now very interesting 383 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: to be. They haven't gone all in. I mean, the 384 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: institutional Democrat apparatus is not all in on Carmelo Anthony 385 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: and the stabbing case and all this they've that's online, 386 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: you'll see that, and there's some activists, local activists. But 387 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I think the mainstream Democrat party realizes that this is 388 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: not going to go well for them if they really 389 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: get too into this. I think maybe I'm wrong. They 390 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: could turn it into another OJ you know, celebrated case. 391 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but they've really gone all in 392 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: on Obrego Garcia. And here is Senator Van Holland Clay 393 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: from Maryland, talking about this meeting with this guy play fifteen. 394 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 4: He said he was not afraid of the other prisoners 395 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: in his immediate cell, but that he was traumatized by 396 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: being at Seacott full of many of the prisoners in 397 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: other cell blocks who called out to him and taunted 398 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: him in various ways. His conversation with me was the 399 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: first communication he'd had with anybody outside of prison since 400 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: he was abducted. He said he felt very sad about 401 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: being in a prison because he had not committed any crimes. 402 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: Clay, you know, people pointed out, Oh, I know, I know, 403 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: he's like a lost puppy. People have pointed out he 404 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't even ask apparently, or wouldn't give an answer. Is 405 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: he a member of MS thirteen? 406 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 3: Yes? 407 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Or no? Is he a part of this? Did he 408 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: beat his wife? She said he did. I mean that 409 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: seems kind of significant to me too. I think we 410 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: played the team. Can remind me if we played it 411 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: or not. I know I shared it on social When 412 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you get grilled by Michael Strahan on Good Morning America 413 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: and you can't answer a basic question of whether she 414 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: was fearful of him, this is so let's talk about that. Garcia. 415 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: We said told you months ago, this was what their 416 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: focus is going to be. They were going to find 417 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: one person who was deported. They were going to decide 418 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: to make him the front facing example of how unfair 419 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: deportations were. But I do think and they picked a 420 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: poor example, right, an alleged wife beater. As someone who 421 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: was accused of human smuggling pulled over in Tennessee. The 422 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Biden FBI said, hey, let him go. Someone who has 423 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: what appears to be MS thirteen gang signed on his knuckles. 424 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: If you looked at the picture that that Donald Trump shared, 425 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: the location of his arrest, the people that he was 426 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: consorting with at the time of the arrest, all these 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: things make him not a particularly the fact that he's 428 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: here illegally and no one disputes it. All these things 429 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: make him not a particularly sympathetic plaintiff, as we would say, 430 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: or forward facing client in this respect. But here is 431 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: what's really going on. What we're really seeing is Biden 432 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: let in around ten million illegals in four years, and 433 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: we've had conversations about this, Buck. I remember during the 434 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: election saying I thought that Trump could shut down the 435 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: southern border. The challenge was going to be deporting massive 436 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: amounts of illegals. And I was talking with some people 437 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: over the weekend and on a pace right now, Trump 438 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: is going to be able to deport about three hundred 439 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand people. Okay, that means that it would 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: take around thirty years of doing this same pace to 441 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: just deport the people that Biden let in in the 442 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: last four years. If you open the floodgates and allow 443 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: everybody in and you don't have a mechanism by which 444 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: the president can then deport massive amounts of people as well, 445 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: then effectively the Democrats win. And that is I think 446 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: what their calculus was all on, Buck. I think they 447 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: made the choice. Once we let these people in, given 448 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: the laws and given the roadblocks we can put up 449 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: to any deportation process, it's going to become virtually impossible 450 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: to ever get these people out. And this presumes that 451 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: we even have a president who wants to shut down 452 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: the southern border. Because the lesson here is if they 453 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty eight, they'll probably wide open the 454 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: southern border again and we'll have millions more people coming in. 455 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: I was reading this morning their interviews with people who 456 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: have decided not to come into the United States where 457 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: they said, hey, we just have to wait for another 458 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Democrat president to be able to do this again. And 459 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: you'll remember, as soon as Biden was elected, those caravans 460 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: started in massive numbers. So what Trump is trying to 461 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: do wait caravans. They were literally showing up with Biden 462 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: Ysiden t shirts. Yes, and they're asked by reporters, hey, 463 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: why are you here because of Biden? They were telling 464 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: us yes, because Biden wants us to come. Was even 465 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: some of the answers because that was the way it 466 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: was being told. So the point on this is we're 467 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: having a now legal battle over whether Trump can expansively 468 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: define illegal immigration and use that under hundreds of year 469 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: old laws to be able to deport people rapidly. We 470 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: need Congress to act in this respect to make it 471 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: easier for people to be deported. The challenge is I 472 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: suspect that Democrats would in many respects throw up the filibuster, 473 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: which remember they claimed was racist and antiquated and didn't 474 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: need to exist anymore. Now suddenly they're going to use 475 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: it abundantly against Trump in the Senate because they only 476 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: have forty seven seats. And so the Supreme Court over 477 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: the weekend to me, stepped in and issued a stop 478 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: order on the deportation of these violent criminals. And I 479 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: think they did it in a mechanism that suggests that 480 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: they may well restrict Trump's ability to be able to 481 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: rapidly deport people, which means these millions of illegals are 482 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: essentially here to stay. We just come back to this 483 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: philosophical this philosophical reckoning that I think a lot of 484 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Americans have had. You cannot look at us and say 485 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: the rule of law, the constitution, due process only matters 486 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: to prevent people from being told to leave, does not 487 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: matter despite all of the laws when it comes to 488 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: they are arriving and they are staying in violation of laws. Right, 489 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: this can't be a one way street situation, or else 490 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: we don't really have a country anymore. And I think 491 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: that this is also where this should be thought of. 492 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: This is an emergency. The number of illegals who have 493 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: come into the country, and particularly those who have come 494 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: in under Biden. This is a national emergency because we 495 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: have seen these serial violations of our sovereignty to such 496 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: a degree that it has eroded faith in the rule 497 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: of law. This is an enormous burden on the taxpayer, 498 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: an enormous burden on our social and political fabric. I mean, 499 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: do they speak English? Are they American? What makes them Americans? 500 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: Some of them have been here for a year or two. Well, 501 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: some people study abroad. If I study abroad in Australia, 502 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: am I in Ausie all of a sudden, by the way, 503 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: at least there I would speak the language. What if 504 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: I studied abroad in Tokyo and said, you know what, guys, 505 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm as Japanese as all of you, I'd be laughed at. Yes. 506 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: But yet in this country, the Democrat Party has decided 507 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: that America is an idea. Now, America is actually people. 508 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: It is three hundred and forty million people who are 509 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be here who live in a place known 510 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: as America. But it is actually us. It's not just 511 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: a land mass. This is not just a real estate 512 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: transaction that we're discussing. And Clay, I think that's where 513 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: the reckoning comes from. That's where people are just saying, 514 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: hold on a second, So are we supposed to have 515 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: multiple tiers, multiple levels of review and retrial and more 516 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: review for every person who's come here illegally the whole system. 517 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: They've overwhelmed the system. They have flooded the system intentionally, 518 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: and now you're going to say, well, the system requires 519 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: extra Why I know the system requires This is an emergency. 520 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: People have to be told to go home and made 521 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: to go home. This is not their home, and that 522 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: is what the real battle is. The Garcia Fellow is 523 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the front facing aspect of this, but make no mistake, 524 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: they are desperately trying to stop Trump from sending out 525 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: people who were illegally here. And there's lots of numbers 526 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: floating around. We should probably get Stephen Miller on again 527 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: because he's the expert on this to be able to 528 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: just give us the facts. But you'll see a lot 529 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: of things on social media about how many people were 530 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: deported and deporters in chief. A lot of times buck 531 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: they were counting I was diving into this. They were 532 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: counting people who were turned away at the border as 533 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: being as deportations. Yes, I know they didn't. They started 534 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: that under Obama to create the impression that he was 535 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: the in chief, so that he would have more political 536 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: capital to try to swindle Republicans with the Gang of 537 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Eight bill, Remember the Senate Gang of eight into an amnesty. 538 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: It was oh, look Obama's series about border security. Look 539 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: at the numbers. The numbers were all fudged. The numbers 540 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: were fake. It was a joke. In other words, it's 541 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: important for you guys to think about the difference between 542 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: people here that are taken internally and flown out and 543 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: people who are stopped at the border. Many of those 544 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: numbers out there, they're counting people stopped at the border 545 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: as being deported, which is not really the same thing. 546 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: It's not it's it's really a turnoway and beyond that Clay. 547 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: A lot of the people who are stopped at the 548 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: border and deported, you know what happens. They just go 549 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: west or they go east and they cross again. Right. 550 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: So you people think, oh, problem solved. Look at all 551 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: these not problems solved, but problem getting better. Look at 552 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: these numbers. No, they just if you're turned right back around, 553 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: A lot of these people have paid the you know, 554 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: they've paid the cartel coyotes. They've done the human trafficking. 555 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: You know, they've been a part of that human trafficking pipeline, 556 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: and they're just gonna find another place to try to cross, 557 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: and the next time they'll probably get through. Here's a 558 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: question for you, Well, I'll get your answer on the 559 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: flip side. 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In addition to the 614 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: fact that he came out of the world of football. 615 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: But to the credit of Good Morning America, they had 616 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan, who a lot of time doesn't do serious 617 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: news interview, ask a pretty important question. Why did the 618 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: wife accuse her husband, who is now in an l 619 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: Salvador prison, of domestic abuse and did she fear him? 620 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to that conversation that happened 621 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: on Friday, Good Morning America. I know this is a 622 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: sensitive question, but I have to ask it. You did 623 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: take out a temporary order of protection against your husband 624 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one? Were you in fear of your husband? 625 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: Husband is alive? 626 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: Does all I can say? Okay? Then you know I'm 627 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: not going to push on that. Okay. I actually think 628 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: he should have pushed on it a little bit. But 629 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he asked the question that silence buck. 630 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: If you are asked if you are in fear of 631 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: your husband and you don't answer for twenty seconds or 632 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds however long that pause was, you're in fear 633 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: of your husband. I'm sorry. I can't imagine very many 634 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: wives out there asked that question would sit there in 635 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: silence and then not really answer it. At all, she 636 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: may well fear the gang also, which still has a 637 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: lot of members in the United States unfortunately MS thirteen. 638 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: But I do think that's an important clip that we 639 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: just played for you that everybody should be watching if 640 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: they're trying to make this a Braio Garcia guy into 641 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: somehow of a hero. We also promised that we would 642 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: give our number here, Clay, so we gotta keep our 643 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: promise of illegals. Yeah, oh yes, totally, I forgot I yeah, 644 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: my number is written down on this yellow legal pad 645 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: right here. All right already three dude, one, hold it up. 646 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: What have you got? Yeah? I got for people we 647 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: can't see. I've got twenty five million. Buck has thirty million. 648 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: Split the difference twenty seven and a half in Nashville, 649 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: in New York City studio there, anybody have a number 650 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: that is drastically different than the one we shared, much lower? 651 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: Eleven million? Ups what eleven Biden led in eleven million? 652 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: Do a little research, producer, Alley. I mean, I don't know, 653 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is she a is she a plant? Buck? 654 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Did the Biden administration get her in here to try 655 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: to down legal question? My bad? Never mind? Oh wow, 656 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to put that producer Alley on the 657 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: hot seat we come back. But it is a question. 658 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this a little bit more. What is 659 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: the actual number of the legal immigrants in the country 660 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: and why is it so difficult to even get a 661 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: fair accounting. We'll talk about that more next