Speaker 1: We're getting some good ambience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's good.
Speaker 1: Man on bike. Well keep that it was child crying
Speaker 1: quick keep that in. Hello and welcome to Midnight Chats,
Speaker 1: a podcast of informal interviews with musicians we love, posted
Speaker 1: weekly at midnight to suit these very casual conversations. This
Speaker 1: week's episode is hosted by me Stuart Stubbs, the editor
Speaker 1: of Loud and Quiet magazine. Episode one hundred and nineteen
Speaker 1: of the podcast has got a bit of a different
Speaker 1: feel to previous ones. It was recorded earlier this year
Speaker 1: in June twenty twenty two in Barcelona. I was out
Speaker 1: there for Primavera Sound, as was my guest Ollie Judge,
Speaker 1: the drummer and singer of Bristol based band Squid. We
Speaker 1: were there at the festival. I've been there for a
Speaker 1: good week. We were out there covering it. We're a
Speaker 1: partner of that festival. We go every year. We have
Speaker 1: a lovely, lovely time and we tried to meet up
Speaker 1: with a couple of bands each time and interview them.
Speaker 1: We've done a couple of podcasts there before and then
Speaker 1: normally quite hastily put together Angel Olsen episode which was
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Now it's still out there. If
Speaker 1: you'd like to go and find it, just go back
Speaker 1: through the feed. That was recorded at Prima Berea, but
Speaker 1: it was in a very busy lobby, hotel lobby where
Speaker 1: all the bands stay, so the sound quality wasn't great
Speaker 1: for this one. I had an idea of Ollie and
Speaker 1: myself walking along the seafront, walking along, picking up the
Speaker 1: sounds of the sea and the ambiance of a lovely Barcelona.
Speaker 1: And then we got there and the weather was beautiful,
Speaker 1: but there was still too much wind down actually on
Speaker 1: the sea for us to do that and for it
Speaker 1: to be audible. So what we did was we sat
Speaker 1: on a park bench. As you're about to hear, there
Speaker 1: was a park near our hotels. Our hotels were very
Speaker 1: close to each other. We met outside the one I
Speaker 1: was staying in. We walked to the park and we
Speaker 1: recorded this. Has it worked as an experiment, I'll let
Speaker 1: you be the judge of that, I'd be interested to know,
Speaker 1: so feel free to dm us on Instagram at Loud
Speaker 1: and Quiet mag if you have an opinion on it.
Speaker 1: The idea was that you would get a sense of
Speaker 1: place and it wouldn't just be two voices in a
Speaker 1: very still room. We thought we'd make the most of
Speaker 1: being in such a lovely environment, so that was what
Speaker 1: we were going for. So it does sound a little
Speaker 1: bit different, but I very much enjoyed talking to Olie.
Speaker 1: I've met him a fair few times before. In fact,
Speaker 1: we featured Squid on the cover of Loud and Quiet
Speaker 1: last year when their debut album Bright green Field came out,
Speaker 1: and I photographed the cover feature, which is not something
Speaker 1: I do. I'm not a photographer, but there were lockdown restrictions.
Speaker 1: It's a long, boring story that I won't go into now,
Speaker 1: but in men I had to photograph cover myself. I
Speaker 1: think I did all right. I think I did okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't embarrass myself too much. There's a link below
Speaker 1: this episode to that cover interview. There's also a link
Speaker 1: to the mittens that I bemoan for a lot of
Speaker 1: this episode, the Loud and Quiet gloves that we've made
Speaker 1: and are selling like shit sandwiches, And there's maybe a
Speaker 1: few other links down there. I'll see what I can
Speaker 1: dig out. Ollie and I talk about NFTs, we talk
Speaker 1: about prima er itself, religion, warp records, and there is
Speaker 1: towards the end of the conversation a few kind of
Speaker 1: little hints that maybe what the new Squid album is
Speaker 1: going to sound like. Perhaps. Thank you for listening. If
Speaker 1: you enjoy it, please do tell a friend. That's the
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Speaker 1: but more importantly, just tell someone Okay, thanks very much.
Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and nineteen. Myself, Ollie Judge
Speaker 1: from Squid sat on a park bench in Barcelona. So
Speaker 1: this is nice.
Speaker 2: It is very nice.
Speaker 1: Set the scene. Set the scene for us. Where we
Speaker 1: are right now.
Speaker 3: We are just in your garden, I think if you're
Speaker 3: your hotel room.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's huge, isn't it. Yeah, big park with a
Speaker 1: massive structure in the lake. Yeah, we're in a park
Speaker 1: that it's quite a It feels like the sort of
Speaker 1: park that might be in Blade Runner to me, really well,
Speaker 1: you know, like this over here feels like quite futuristic,
Speaker 1: but in an eighty very eighties waye. It looks like
Speaker 1: there's a disused sort of roller coaster.
Speaker 2: European Runner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, European plays Runner here. So I had an idea
Speaker 1: for this, which was that we were going to have
Speaker 1: a romantic walk along the beach while we record this podcast,
Speaker 1: Dane Low kind of style exactly. Instead we're sat next
Speaker 1: a very unhappy child. But it's so windy down there.
Speaker 1: We've come to this park. We have a premium erous sounds.
Speaker 1: You're playing today today, Caught to eight, drove in last yesterday? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is your first time playing it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, second time playing in Spain. It's very nice, it's
Speaker 3: very relaxing.
Speaker 1: It's really hot. It's about twenty five is in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's about twenty fives already. How are you in the heat?
Speaker 2: I'm terrible in the heat. I usually burn. Yeah. I've
Speaker 2: asked you to bring some cream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy to, happy to for the talent. Got to
Speaker 1: keep the talent.
Speaker 2: I'm not very good in the heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go red, come monster, and you're so. Our
Speaker 1: hotels are just over there. What's what's your hotel.
Speaker 3: Like, well, we've got a rooftop pool which is pretty
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That's pretty swanky.
Speaker 2: Goldie staying in there as well. Yeah, I saw him
Speaker 2: in the morning. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good breakfast as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fresh fruit, it's very nice.
Speaker 1: Did you take anything away from breakfast? I don't. They
Speaker 1: don't like it, I've found out. But have you really? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: our hotels are sign do you not steal as a
Speaker 1: sign saying please eat the food here and leave, do
Speaker 1: not take it with you? Really, no one's paying attention
Speaker 1: to that sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's really handy when you're going for a drive the
Speaker 3: next day when you've got to drive to another gig
Speaker 3: because you just make a sandwich.
Speaker 2: In the morning, you have to get a lunch in
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this morning, it's just purely purely breakfast on site.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And your day. So your day, now, how does
Speaker 1: that look? Because you're playing around like between seven and eight,
Speaker 1: aren't you around a half seven ish?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I've got to be there at like five, So
Speaker 3: do this have a coffee, get back to the pool, yeah,
Speaker 3: might go for a swim beach.
Speaker 1: Do you tend to get nervous before a show, and
Speaker 1: if so, how many how many hours before the show
Speaker 1: do you start to think about it?
Speaker 3: I think, like pre Lockdown, I never used to get nervous,
Speaker 3: but nowadays I get quite nervous for gigs.
Speaker 2: Mainly like headline shows. I think. So it's like, you
Speaker 2: know that all.
Speaker 1: These people have bought tickets see you, so that that's
Speaker 1: what's made That's that's the difference since Lockdown?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it because you're you're aware of the fact that
Speaker 1: Is it because you're aware of that everyone's had a
Speaker 1: miserable time and they're now there for a good time.
Speaker 3: No, it's more like you know, like people have come
Speaker 3: see you play, like they haven't. You're not like supporting
Speaker 3: anyone or like it's kind of all about squid and
Speaker 3: you just want to put on a good show.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's the nerve wrecking thing.
Speaker 3: We've got so much on stage now it kind of
Speaker 3: takes at least like two hours to set up. So
Speaker 3: when you get to a festival, you've got half an
Speaker 3: hour set up with gongs.
Speaker 1: How many gongs are we talking now?
Speaker 3: We've wheeled it down to one that used to be two.
Speaker 3: It was it was a hard bargain, but I think it.
Speaker 1: Had to be to leave a gong behind. Well, tonight,
Speaker 1: you're on a stage. You've not been to the site before,
Speaker 1: have You're not? You're on what most people consider the
Speaker 1: best stage. Oh great, Yeah, it's the stage that paved.
Speaker 1: We're in the second week right now, and last weekend
Speaker 1: Pavement played on the first night and they wanted to
Speaker 1: play the stage you're playing. They weren't allowed because it's
Speaker 1: a bit smaller. It's it's a bit smaller, but it's
Speaker 1: it's big. I don't want to add to your nerves,
Speaker 1: but it's absolutely massive and everyone's expectation is really high
Speaker 1: because it's the best one. So I will they will
Speaker 1: let you know if they don't know. It's it's kind
Speaker 1: of a bit like an amphitheater, so like there's these
Speaker 1: steps that seat slash steps that kind of wrap around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's the one that it's the one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 1: You've gone straight in at that one because I think
Speaker 1: people normally work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard it was in the ray band stage
Speaker 3: maybe before. Yeah, it's quite upsetting. So I just lost
Speaker 3: my three ray bands.
Speaker 2: Though against me.
Speaker 1: You used to get you did used to get three
Speaker 1: ray bands I think for playing it. But now well
Speaker 1: now it's sponsored by a car company.
Speaker 2: Great, So there's an NFT stage as well, it's there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think we saw a Black Country the other day
Speaker 3: and they said they played on the NFT stage.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, that explains what that stage is. It's called binance,
Speaker 1: I think. I think I keep calling it bit fake,
Speaker 1: but I think it's called finance. And there are certain
Speaker 1: stages or the stages are sponsored, and there's someone I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know what that company is, Like there's an Estrella stage,
Speaker 1: but there's someone I don't. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: actually know what that thing is.
Speaker 2: Something like kind of Nathan Barley.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's an I mean, where where do then
Speaker 1: a squid done an NFT.
Speaker 3: Not yet, Well we'll see how it pans up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where where do you stand on the n FT?
Speaker 3: I stand on the kind of I have no idea
Speaker 3: what they are, what it is, and yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I'm only twenty seven, but it makes me feel ancient ancient.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with things like that, I do feel I should
Speaker 1: try to engage with it and know what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't turn into like an old grumpy man
Speaker 1: that thinks that the past was better than Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's hard. I know, It's just it's hard to have
Speaker 1: the energy to do it.
Speaker 3: I kind of think back to like when things are invented,
Speaker 3: like say bluetooth like headsets. I used to see people
Speaker 3: walking around like talking to themselves and be like, oh god,
Speaker 3: it's that what the future is going to be. It's
Speaker 3: it's the kind of the same with NFTs. Kind of
Speaker 3: don't get it now, but like maybe in five years.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm surprised they've I'm surprised they are taking that
Speaker 1: that's still here. I thought it might be a month long,
Speaker 1: a few months, like, well this is nonsense. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's big money, isn't it? What you send on TikTok.
Speaker 2: I've got a downloaded on my phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never go on it because I'm worried about
Speaker 3: getting dragged into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time on social media, and
Speaker 3: I think that would just be the tipping point I've
Speaker 3: gotten if I gotten TikTok.
Speaker 1: But what one do you waste the most amount of
Speaker 1: time on?
Speaker 3: Probably Instagram kind of leaning over into Twitter nowadays as Yeah,
Speaker 3: quite like that and is this the band account or
Speaker 3: your own account band account? Yeah, yeah, got a bit
Speaker 3: more purchase with the people actually.
Speaker 1: Respond yeah, yeah, well we've got on Twitter, We've only
Speaker 1: got I don't have a personal and we've got a
Speaker 1: magazine one and I shouldn't be surprised by this anymore,
Speaker 1: but I'm still surprised by how much people ignore or something.
Speaker 1: I don't ignore you guys, you don't, don't, but you know,
Speaker 1: there'd be times I think if we're operating on free
Speaker 1: likes from what I would consider a very good joke,
Speaker 1: my really good stuff.
Speaker 2: Trim delat, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The really the good ship, I'm getting three likes, and
Speaker 1: I'm having to be happy with that.
Speaker 2: Those three people, they're really.
Speaker 1: Liking it, they're really enjoying it. On the n f
Speaker 1: T front, as I feel like, because you're signed to WARP,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just this is a sweeping statement.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a WARP thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: I think Aphex Twin did one maybe a year or
Speaker 3: two ago. But yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: Very like techy.
Speaker 1: It's techy and your website has got I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say an n f T feel because I don't
Speaker 1: really know what FT is, but it's I agree, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, if you if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you haven't been on the Squid's website, check it out.
Speaker 2: Out, go on the message boards. We never we're never
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: People on it when we when we release the album,
Speaker 3: there are people on it, and I try to try
Speaker 3: to keep engaged it, but it's pretty hard.
Speaker 1: How would you describe the site? How would you sell
Speaker 1: the site? Now?
Speaker 2: To some it's it's like an n FT.
Speaker 3: It's no, it's like we tried to create like a
Speaker 3: fictional kind of city. I don't know if you're into
Speaker 3: video games, but it looks a bit like Halo mm.
Speaker 3: And there's some nice music on there. There's some like
Speaker 3: secret passwords that you can put in there that take
Speaker 3: you to take you to the websites. It's the album
Speaker 3: that's really proud of it.
Speaker 1: It's well, it reminds me of the sort of website
Speaker 1: like websites used to be more fun than they are now.
Speaker 1: They're all just very yeah, and they're really as included.
Speaker 1: They're just quiet, sort about ease of use, which is
Speaker 1: good for a user, but it kind of has taken
Speaker 1: out any of the kind of thing of it and
Speaker 1: yours has got like something to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say nice.
Speaker 1: I mean the label for this stuff, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just very good. And do they just how does
Speaker 1: that work? Do you have? Do you say that we've
Speaker 1: got this idea for a website and they say that's fine,
Speaker 1: well making that for you? Or do you say we're
Speaker 1: going to do this.
Speaker 2: We definitely need pushing. We're kind of.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like just five people kind of showing
Speaker 3: over each other. No one has like the final say,
Speaker 3: and we're not very Yeah, we don't really know where
Speaker 3: to look for all that stuff, so what kind of
Speaker 3: just send us a list of stuff which is really nice?
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're really bad at all the artwork.
Speaker 3: And we've all got five different minds shouting over each other.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think if you're styling it out, who is the
Speaker 1: most in the band? Who is the most visually artie?
Speaker 1: Did any of you study art?
Speaker 3: No that three of three studied music, one did neuroscience,
Speaker 3: and I did I did one of those media studies.
Speaker 2: So what did you the best?
Speaker 1: Really? What did you did you? Is there any transferable
Speaker 1: skills from your media studies degree? I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be down on media studies. I know people, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: isn't it deeper? Always Ay, that's not a degree. I
Speaker 1: did film and drama and I studied media studies at
Speaker 1: a level. So I'm with you. I'm in your team.
Speaker 1: But did you is there anything that you that you
Speaker 1: use from that? This is that's what crap? No, it
Speaker 1: was because I used to interview What did you learn
Speaker 1: in your degree that you can bring to the position?
Speaker 3: Squid Well, I used to work at record labels, so
Speaker 3: it's actually really handy for that, and by extension, working
Speaker 3: at record labels is really handy for being in a band.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like through through a few channels.
Speaker 3: It's been it's been pretty useful.
Speaker 1: If you go to Brighton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I went to Brighton and the rest went
Speaker 3: to Sussex because I applied. I applied to go to
Speaker 3: Brighton last minute. I didn't have the grades to get
Speaker 3: in there, but I just needed one more, one more choice.
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize that Brighton was in Sussex when
Speaker 3: I was like nineteen. She's quite worrying, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: turned up to Brighton and then I knew Louis already
Speaker 3: from from home. I turned up at a house party
Speaker 3: and Louis was there and I was like, I thought
Speaker 3: you were I think you're going to Union, like the
Speaker 3: Midlands or something. Sussex. This is Sussex.
Speaker 1: So that's that's good and I still wanted to be today.
Speaker 1: You were saying you drove from Switzerland. Yeah, you're currently
Speaker 1: doing a very casual tool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very casual.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's just a holiday pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because my my parents just sold up everything in
Speaker 3: the UK and moved to France. So fair place the
Speaker 3: new places in between here and where we were in Switzerland.
Speaker 1: So just how do were they moving out of? Was
Speaker 1: that your childhood home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was also my dad's childhood home because
Speaker 3: you lived there for there for like fifty five years
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: That's huge, isn't it. How I was going to ask,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? But I'm actually just
Speaker 1: going to have your dad feel.
Speaker 2: I think a lot worse than me. I think.
Speaker 3: He says he keeps on having like recurring dreams that
Speaker 3: he goes into the house and then he notices that
Speaker 3: someone else lives there, and then he asked do they discoper?
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty sure they're pretty happy in France.
Speaker 1: Do you how does it feel them feeling because you're
Speaker 1: you live in Bristol now yeah yeah, yeah, and obviously
Speaker 1: you're quite settled there into it, into Bristol life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think I'll be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how because my mum still lives in the
Speaker 1: hand that I oh yeah, Ivenue, Yeah, And I don't
Speaker 1: know how i'd feel if she suddenly Like it's quite
Speaker 1: a big thing, isn't it when you're family at home,
Speaker 1: if it's one, if you've had one, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: it is no longer there and your parents have moved
Speaker 1: to a completely different country.
Speaker 2: I know it is.
Speaker 1: Does it feel? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I felt kind of like a lot of people came
Speaker 3: up to me and like, oh, you know, you're right,
Speaker 3: how do you feel? And I was just kind of
Speaker 3: kind of fine, to be honest, like because I haven't
Speaker 3: really had any attachment to like Chippenham where I grew
Speaker 3: up in a while. I've lived in Brighton and London
Speaker 3: and Bristol, so I was kind of barely there. I
Speaker 3: didn't really like, I wasn't really there for like ten years,
Speaker 3: so kind of settled more in Bristol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you can go to France and free.
Speaker 1: So that how's your French?
Speaker 2: My face is dreadful, we see, Yeah, no it's dreadful.
Speaker 3: I think I had quite a I wouldn't say traumatic,
Speaker 3: but my French teacher at school really didn't like me.
Speaker 2: It was like a giddy t shoes as well shocking.
Speaker 3: What was can you remember the teacher's name, miss, miss Powell?
Speaker 1: Miss Powell? What had you done?
Speaker 3: I think my brother, who was a bit of a
Speaker 3: bit of a troublemaker, she taught him and just kind.
Speaker 1: Of instantly, right, that makes sense, she got the iron fist?
Speaker 1: Was was was there? What kind of school did you
Speaker 1: go to? Was it a nice school? Was it like
Speaker 1: a bit of a it was just a standard.
Speaker 2: School, just standard standard school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was your French class. We would call
Speaker 1: it the doss subject. I don't think people use the
Speaker 1: word us. Yeah I used dusting about it. But you
Speaker 1: think young people use that word now? I bet they?
Speaker 1: I bet they don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking about it, no, it probably was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like my school was quiet. I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: realized it at the time. It was quite a rough school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could just state school, and we had we did Spanish,
Speaker 1: we didn't do French. But Jesus Christ, poor teachers, because
Speaker 1: it was just chaos in that lesson, And it's the
Speaker 1: one lesson that I wish i'd actually actually replied myself. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my regret from school. I'm terrible with because I'd
Speaker 1: love to swing languages.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our class once we did there was a supply
Speaker 3: teacher and we did like every time she left the
Speaker 3: room and came back in, we'd all fall on the
Speaker 3: floor and pretend to be dead.
Speaker 1: Apart from one person refused it, what classes is in French?
Speaker 2: Subjects?
Speaker 1: The subject? Yeah, unsurprisingly it was the French. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is all adding up and you would be one on
Speaker 1: the floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was. Yeah, I think there was some.
Speaker 3: I don't know, they're probably they probably lived in France
Speaker 3: and they're probably fluent.
Speaker 1: That's quite a good, good prank. It's a good prank
Speaker 1: for teachers. I think if I was a teacher, which
Speaker 1: I never would be because I'm terrified of children bullying
Speaker 1: and having been to a school where that happens, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I have so much respect for teachers,
Speaker 1: But there are certain things like a story like that,
Speaker 1: I'd like to think.
Speaker 2: I would be able to you'd find it funny.
Speaker 1: Fair. I mean, did you do it every week?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: No, it was just one yeah, and then yeah, it
Speaker 3: never happened again. I think we all got told off
Speaker 3: quite severely.
Speaker 1: And how does that come about? Who the one kid?
Speaker 1: I've got this idea.
Speaker 2: Kind of like huddle around, kind of like eighteen.
Speaker 1: When Miss Para walks in, We're all going to just
Speaker 1: drop to the floor. There's one person when I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, Like I'm here to learn.
Speaker 2: I'm around the rest of you.
Speaker 1: It's but you are genuinely a good student.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only had I got I think I got
Speaker 3: two detentions over five years.
Speaker 2: That was that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: At your school? Did they tell you that if you
Speaker 1: get a detention it goes on your public.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you need forget it. Working in McDonald's, yeah.
Speaker 1: Those kind of It's funny how all schools have those.
Speaker 2: Urban myths.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got attention. I may as well drop out
Speaker 1: now there's nothing for me. I've had to stay behind
Speaker 1: for an hour. Life is over. So where are you
Speaker 1: in the cycle, as they call it in the industry.
Speaker 1: There you're touring the first record store. But the first
Speaker 1: record came out at such a weird time.
Speaker 3: It's kind of odd because it came out in May
Speaker 3: last year and we did a tour of really small
Speaker 3: venues in May. But that was just like when you
Speaker 3: could only go and sit down at a venue.
Speaker 1: So you played some of those shows where people will sat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like thirty people like every show. It
Speaker 3: was kind of like a double whammy because it was
Speaker 3: we hadn't played a show in like a year. I
Speaker 3: think the first one was in It was in Falmouth actually,
Speaker 3: which is really really nice. It was kind of we're
Speaker 3: all incredibly nervous because we hadn't played the show for
Speaker 3: a year and we were instead of playing stuff from
Speaker 3: the album, we were just doing all kind of new
Speaker 3: stuff that we'd kind of written in lockdowns, and there
Speaker 3: were like thirty people and you could see the whites
Speaker 3: of their eyes in front of all sitting down. I
Speaker 3: went to one of those shows, the London one was
Speaker 3: actually it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't yours, No. I set myself up for that. It
Speaker 1: was a working mental club. It was sort of no
Speaker 1: offense to working Men's Club. It was good, but it
Speaker 1: was it was really early on. It was before is
Speaker 1: that like Oslo? Yeah? Yeah, and it was Alm was
Speaker 1: allowed to even sing. There was no singing.
Speaker 2: I think. I think some venues were pretty hot on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you played at church and Totness and they were
Speaker 3: they were really hot on that. I was in that
Speaker 3: church you went to Tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has an incredible venue.
Speaker 2: It's really great.
Speaker 1: I saw Caroline playing there at that festival.
Speaker 2: That was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Yeah, and Gueno played in there.
Speaker 3: It's funny playing in churches. Music's in no way like
Speaker 3: Satanic or anything, but just a rock band in a church.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems a little bit. It seems a bit weird.
Speaker 1: Did you Did you grow up religious in any way?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Are you religious anymore? No?
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm I'm not really, I'm not at all
Speaker 3: even not really. Yeah, yeah, I don't really, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know anyone that's kind of religious. I'm
Speaker 3: not friends with anyone that's.
Speaker 1: I'm not religious at all, but I really respect it,
Speaker 1: and I I wouldn't so I envy it. But I
Speaker 1: actually mean more, I mean more religious people, more people
Speaker 1: who are practicing religions now doing like meeting bands and
Speaker 1: artists than I ever have really, Yeah, you know, openly
Speaker 1: talk about that faith in a really kind of cool way,
Speaker 1: Whereas where I grew up, we were all a bunch
Speaker 1: of like who were just like it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's not cool to like that, just be down on
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think there's still definitely yeah, that kind of feeling.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe yeah, maybe you just grow out
Speaker 3: of it kind of Yeah, I know you mean about
Speaker 3: kind of like almost envying, envying it. It'd be nice
Speaker 3: having something, Yeah, I don't know. It's some faith in something.
Speaker 1: Something to fall back yeah, yeah, something to fall back
Speaker 1: on a bit, have it in your back pop. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work that way, does it. You have
Speaker 1: to fully believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a really good podcast called Sounds Like a Cult.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not it's not about actual cult. It's
Speaker 1: about things that are quite culty. So, like there's one
Speaker 1: on Elon Musk and it's about like the fans of
Speaker 1: following Yeah, you can't do anything wrong. There's one on
Speaker 1: like Peloton, I think.
Speaker 3: Or like that Peloton is really culty it's kind of
Speaker 3: like it's exactly like that episode of It's such a
Speaker 3: cliche to say now it sounds like Black Mirror. That
Speaker 3: episode of Black Mirror where kind of like an X
Speaker 3: Factor kind of spoof. But those adverts where people are
Speaker 3: just kind of like they've got like big screens in
Speaker 3: front of them and they're like, I don't know, doing
Speaker 3: some like mad cycling competition in like they're doing like
Speaker 3: the Tour de France something, and they're just kind of
Speaker 3: like staring at the wall.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and there's and there's an instruct to say,
Speaker 1: you've got this great work.
Speaker 2: We're going up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a scam, isn't it. It's Pyramid, absolutely
Speaker 1: a scam. But they've just had a very good pandemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, there were certain things. This is a conversation
Speaker 1: that everyone has and probably doesn't need to be recorded
Speaker 1: on to podcast, but I'm going to say anyway, certain
Speaker 1: thing like QR codes had very strong pandemics.
Speaker 2: See the inventor of the QR codes, because.
Speaker 1: It was down and out, wasn't it. When was the
Speaker 1: last time you'd used a QR? I didn't even know
Speaker 1: if I even had I didn't even know, you could
Speaker 1: just use your camera to no no, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had an app. Yeah, Peloton, all the delivery companies, all
Speaker 1: of the supermarkets, yea, all of those things just had.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of things that skyrocketed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Peloton's one where that surely would not have
Speaker 1: taken off without people being locked inside their houses.
Speaker 3: It's funny that speaking about Peloton. Before the pandemic, I
Speaker 3: was terrified of cycling. But when you could like go
Speaker 3: out and do some exercise and there was no one
Speaker 3: on the roads, me and my partner just got on
Speaker 3: bikes and.
Speaker 2: Now I love it.
Speaker 1: This is in Bristol.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really nice city to cycle. So what
Speaker 3: was it had you cycled as a kid?
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 3: But my partner's really really really in cycling, and her
Speaker 3: family are really in cycling.
Speaker 2: They've been doing it kind of all their life.
Speaker 3: And it was only when I started cycling with her
Speaker 3: that I realized how petrified my parents.
Speaker 2: Were of cycling.
Speaker 3: They passed. Yeah I remember me and yeah, we were
Speaker 3: Me and my partner were around my parents' house and
Speaker 3: we were going to cycle from Chipping into Bristol like
Speaker 3: three hours. My mom and dad for like, yeah, just
Speaker 3: make sure cycle on the pavement is safer. And then
Speaker 3: and then that was like, it's way more dangerous.
Speaker 1: It would take forever as well, wouldn't it really would Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you'd have to be you'd be constantly stopping for people.
Speaker 1: And then there's bits where there's driveways. You can't just
Speaker 1: speed over a driveway cavement. Yeah, I mean that would take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they've so they've passed on that that.
Speaker 3: I think, so to you, it would be it'll be
Speaker 3: interesting to hear what they think about that after they
Speaker 3: listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1: So now you cycle? So now do you cycle? Did
Speaker 1: you have you got? How into it?
Speaker 2: Have you got?
Speaker 1: You got the likes?
Speaker 2: I haven't got the like crayer.
Speaker 3: I have thought about maybe doing some like squid squid licra,
Speaker 3: but A, I think it would be really really expensive, yeah,
Speaker 3: and B it's I don't know, maybe it's.
Speaker 2: Not the best look.
Speaker 1: I think that the jersey would be good. I guess
Speaker 1: it depends on maybe not sure. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: shorts too much to stop stop with the shorts, but
Speaker 1: maybe this would be actually really expensing, I think, But
Speaker 1: a squid helmet that would be good because everyone you
Speaker 1: have to wear a helmet, whereas not everyone Oxford that
Speaker 1: like craft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah that would be good. I'm very I
Speaker 2: always wear my helmet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: And I make other people wear their helmets. So if
Speaker 3: there was a squid helmet, that was really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I make people wear it. Well.
Speaker 1: I had a very close call on my bike and
Speaker 1: I wasn't wearing a helmet.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I listened to the you and Jason Williamson.
Speaker 3: Is it when you Oh yeah, I think I might.
Speaker 3: Was it when you broke, like break your back up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I broke a Vertebrae's fine, but I I had Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just just after because I was I think
Speaker 1: when I met him, I was wearing this looked like
Speaker 1: a bulletproof. I looked like there was like this, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: It looked like it looked quite cool. Actually, yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually had a meat. I went and met the team
Speaker 1: at Warp whilst.
Speaker 2: I had that on.
Speaker 1: And when I'm watching.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: Your top, I'm like, it's a back brace. I've broken
Speaker 1: my back.
Speaker 2: This is not a fashion Chorge techno brace.
Speaker 1: Oh right, okay, but can I get one? But where
Speaker 1: can I get one? But I was wearing that when
Speaker 1: we recorded that podcast, and yeah, I wasn't wearing a helmet.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't often wear a helmet back then, and I
Speaker 1: landed on the road. The back of my head smacked
Speaker 1: onto the road and I had to go. I was
Speaker 1: rushed hospital and they didn't know about the backup, and
Speaker 1: they were mostly concerned about my head, but I was.
Speaker 1: I was in a lot of pain. But I was
Speaker 1: also so embarrassed that whenever I was talking to a
Speaker 1: doctor and they asked me, first thing was like, where
Speaker 1: you're in a helmet? And I had to say no
Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, And I just felt so stupid that
Speaker 1: since that day, I've I wear it every every single time.
Speaker 1: I don't actually preach it to others not wearing the
Speaker 1: helmet because I was that person and I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that. But yeah, and I'm like, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad I had that moment because now
Speaker 1: I still you know, it did not my comments in cycling,
Speaker 1: but it did make me think I have to always
Speaker 1: wear a helmet is just mental.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of always wear a helmet and make
Speaker 3: people feel guilty about it.
Speaker 1: Where's your helmet? What's your best merch that you've that
Speaker 1: you've delivered if you don't.
Speaker 2: Really ship merch, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1: We made some mittens recently, which I should say now
Speaker 1: are still available, the footy ones, the the shirt's doing
Speaker 1: really well shirts doing great. That's available for another By
Speaker 1: the time this goes out there, it won't be avail
Speaker 1: of anymore. But we might do another one later in
Speaker 1: the year. But the we made some fleece mittens Loud
Speaker 1: and Quiet, police Smitten. They are still up make don't
Speaker 1: buy them, I'll send yourself. They are blocking the light
Speaker 1: out of our office. We have got so many of them.
Speaker 1: I thought they were like a really kind of fun
Speaker 1: novelty but useful. I mean, I like, so that's I've
Speaker 1: misjudged literally everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3: But it's like classic things like when you when you
Speaker 3: buy someone the present that you think they'll love, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's actually something something for you. Yeah, we want to
Speaker 3: make ping pong bats and yeah, but we just think
Speaker 3: we just love ping pong.
Speaker 2: No one else as much as this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe really.
Speaker 2: Hard to make as well. Do you have a.
Speaker 1: Without divulging too much trade secrets, do you have like
Speaker 1: because you've got a really dedicated fan base who love you.
Speaker 1: There's probably amount that by a ping pong bout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they just like they want the thing. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you could maybe do a run. It's about working out
Speaker 1: that number, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's not like they're not going to convert any kind
Speaker 3: of people who don't listen to a band.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen
Speaker 1: unless you do some sort of collab. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: done any of those? No?
Speaker 3: I think I think that'd be good. Though, you're just
Speaker 3: terrible emerch. We're just like stories very last minute.
Speaker 2: We sold them.
Speaker 3: We headlined dot to dot last weekend when we played
Speaker 3: in Nottingham. We sold two T shirts.
Speaker 2: Right, We hired someone to do merch for us in
Speaker 2: the costume.
Speaker 1: Do you take that rejection badly or are you okay
Speaker 1: with just saying, hey, we tried this thing. It didn't
Speaker 1: really work. It's not a big deal. 's move on
Speaker 1: to next thing.
Speaker 2: It depends what it is, if it's if, if it's merched,
Speaker 2: and I find it kind of funny. We sold two
Speaker 2: T shirts.
Speaker 3: Headliner T shirts, but yeah, t shirts. I'm fine with
Speaker 3: that rejection. The music itself, the music itself, I guess
Speaker 3: is a different thing. I think it's so easy to
Speaker 3: say that we're just doing this for us, but you know,
Speaker 3: if you want other people to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I think I used to be quite good.
Speaker 1: I'm getting worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm definitely getting worse as well.
Speaker 1: Why does any want these mittens that's so warm? So warm?
Speaker 1: Come in to colors. I'm going to stop talking now,
Speaker 1: but one last thing I will say about them. We
Speaker 1: even when you subscribe, like for people that subscribe to
Speaker 1: the magazine, there's even an option now for you to
Speaker 1: opt in to get free mittens, and people are not
Speaker 1: opting in for the free it's exactly the same price.
Speaker 1: It's this one. You get all of these things. And
Speaker 1: it's when you get all these things and you get
Speaker 1: some free mittens, and people are opting in for the
Speaker 1: one without them. Why damning, isn't it? That is damning.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're definitely out of the state of the world.
Speaker 1: We're out of the season, that's for sure, and people
Speaker 1: are probably just thinking, I don't well, I really I
Speaker 1: really want. I'm going to I'm going to send the
Speaker 1: band some mittens all of you. So with the ping pong,
Speaker 1: do you do you have a Ping Pong table in
Speaker 1: the not necessarily on tour, but do you put it
Speaker 1: on your rider?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we're there yet, but I think
Speaker 2: next to.
Speaker 3: Next, next time. I don't know, see how they see
Speaker 3: how the next album goes. Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: Do you have unusual rider requests or is it?
Speaker 2: No, it's all pretty standard.
Speaker 1: Everyone has some characters. Don't really know.
Speaker 2: It's the industry standard.
Speaker 1: I think is that there was something that when you're
Speaker 1: dreaming of being in a band, you think, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for.
Speaker 2: Some warm, warm.
Speaker 1: Phizy because I think I think the hummus thing is
Speaker 1: a fairly recent developing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so as well.
Speaker 1: Surely in the nineties it was Stellars. Yeah, bags, yeah,
Speaker 1: I should do that. Drugs and there wouldn't be any
Speaker 1: hummus on there, I don't think. Or no vegetables, no vegetables,
Speaker 1: a big bowl of fruit.
Speaker 3: We did ask that there was a period where Arthur
Speaker 3: got really he got really obsessed with the Gray Goose
Speaker 3: and you know perdies, the kind of like middle class
Speaker 3: energy change. Yeah, yeah, you got obsessed with that, and
Speaker 3: we had that on our rider. But then we just realized,
Speaker 3: like a bottle of gray Goose every single night. Yekind
Speaker 3: of it's getting to waste? Would yeah, would you get
Speaker 3: through that?
Speaker 2: No, we're very tame now. We like we just asked
Speaker 2: for alcohol free beers.
Speaker 1: Is that because do you do you try to stay
Speaker 1: up to be before the show?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I find that for me.
Speaker 3: For me personally, it makes me really nervous to be
Speaker 3: drunk when I'm on stage because it's from a bit pieste.
Speaker 3: And then I make one mistake and I'll keep on
Speaker 3: thinking about that mistake, and then I make another mistake.
Speaker 2: You know, I just kind of spiral. That's not fake?
Speaker 1: Does that come from a show? Have you played a
Speaker 1: show that's been like that's it? We can't I can't
Speaker 1: be drinking.
Speaker 2: No, not really.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of I think we're all pretty I
Speaker 3: think we're all pretty hard on ourselves with kind of
Speaker 3: like just making the mistakes.
Speaker 2: That obviously no one not.
Speaker 1: Do you notice when someone else on the stage makes
Speaker 1: a mistake even though you wouldn't tell them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also quite fun. You can if someone
Speaker 3: makes a mistake, you can kind of style it out
Speaker 3: with another mistake, like it was kind of planned. Almost
Speaker 3: happens sometimes, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no. If you don't tell each other
Speaker 2: about the mistakes, you get.
Speaker 1: Back off the show and say you were sure you
Speaker 1: played that E instead of the F that was so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Everyone was laughing. I think you should probably leave the band.
Speaker 1: When was it that you did the tour that was
Speaker 1: working progress stuff? That was the the sit down down?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did any songs come from that that are going
Speaker 1: to be on the on the new record?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think pretty much all of them actually, yeah. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there will be people who when that album comes out,
Speaker 1: will be like the forms of these Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1: So that's quite cool. Can they put this one on?
Speaker 1: Don't hold out much hope for the rest of the
Speaker 1: album because he is the lead single, No thanks. I
Speaker 1: feel like we should walkch we yeah, let's do it
Speaker 1: before let's do the same no thing. We can start
Speaker 1: heading back. This is quite intimate now because we're kind
Speaker 1: of tethered.
Speaker 2: It's very like, well, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we've got these little Yeah, we've got these umbilical
Speaker 1: chords going from a clip on mics to the recorder.
Speaker 1: So don't run off whatever you're doing. Is there anything
Speaker 1: you can say about the second record or you know,
Speaker 1: when is this?
Speaker 2: When? When is this going up? Probably?
Speaker 1: I mean not quite soon. I'd say next like four
Speaker 1: weeks it's finished.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty much no. Yeah, yeah, it's quite nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: Second album?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Are you feeling that you're feeling? Is it you're feeling
Speaker 1: the pressure of the first one?
Speaker 3: Yea, A little bit like, yeah, everything went so well
Speaker 3: with the first one. But yeah, I just worried about
Speaker 3: how people receive it. But I'm sure it would be fine.
Speaker 1: I think it's quite nice to hear say that, because
Speaker 1: I don't think you're meant to You're meant to say
Speaker 1: the best, best thing, the best thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: we don't really care anyway. We're pleased with it and
Speaker 1: we don't really care. I mean, the first one did
Speaker 1: the child at fourth?
Speaker 2: I know it's mad. Did you believe it?
Speaker 1: Did you all go out and get smashed?
Speaker 2: We didn't when it charted, but when it came out
Speaker 2: we had a massive party. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: slightly bending the rules in may.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's very I imagine it's very different like being
Speaker 1: in a band at this point, not just the second
Speaker 1: album thing, but the journey of Squid as I'd see
Speaker 1: it would be like you were playing so much before
Speaker 1: you sign your deal, like, yeah, there was this real
Speaker 1: momentum and like every show you're playing so much, and
Speaker 1: all those shows were like really full and like it
Speaker 1: was like incredible. And then you've got you had all
Speaker 1: these labels onting to sign you and all these people
Speaker 1: coming down, and you signed your deal with Warp and
Speaker 1: then at that point, I guess you were the hyped band,
Speaker 1: you know, the band everyone was like, it's quite squad.
Speaker 1: And then your album comes out and now you're in
Speaker 1: this like second phase of people are waiting to see
Speaker 1: what you what you do next.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I guess we've shut ourselves in the
Speaker 3: foot a little bit in the.
Speaker 2: I think people don't really know what to expect with us,
Speaker 2: and that's kinde a good thing. Yeah, but then yeah,
Speaker 2: we'd never really have a plan of what kind of
Speaker 2: music we're going to make, so yeah, it could be rubbish.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, kind of that thing of everyone's expecting the unexpected,
Speaker 3: then the unexpected might be.
Speaker 4: It is it?
Speaker 2: But that's that's just my own anxieties. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: proud of it, they're pretty proud of it.
Speaker 1: Is about this, let's be positive, it be great. Are
Speaker 1: you going to be playing anything new new off it,
Speaker 1: like shows or or not yet?
Speaker 2: Not really.
Speaker 3: There's a few tracks we've been playing for a while,
Speaker 3: but but a lot of them it's all quite like
Speaker 3: Proggy and I can't actually sing.
Speaker 2: And play the jump out at the same time, So right.
Speaker 3: I think we just need to lock ourselves in a
Speaker 3: room for like a week and learn how to play
Speaker 3: all these new songs. Right, It would be really nice
Speaker 3: because I think if we if we ended up playing
Speaker 3: all of it now, we.
Speaker 2: Just get sick of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think like I actually think the first
Speaker 1: album is like for an Hour, but that kind of
Speaker 1: experimental and unexpected to go in at number four is huge.
Speaker 1: Yet it's kind of a pretty crazy year for people.
Speaker 2: Charge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel that people were surprised by that
Speaker 1: album having heard the singles beforehand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Like a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of my friends were like, oh, it wasn't actually like
Speaker 3: expecting it to be that weird.
Speaker 2: I thought it just like twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of like one.
Speaker 3: Of the biggest compliments, and I think people of people
Speaker 3: have been giving us being it's actually really weird.
Speaker 1: We liked how weird it was. Exactly what shall we
Speaker 1: head back? Yeah, you've got you've got a show to play.
Speaker 1: It's pretty past and what will your pre show routine be? Now?
Speaker 1: Go and hang out with Goldie?
Speaker 2: Really really wanted to have a photo with him this morning,
Speaker 2: but he's on the phone.
Speaker 1: What would your opening sound boat of Goldie would have
Speaker 1: been if he wasn't on the phone. Would you have
Speaker 1: spoken to I wanted to?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't have it. I went out for a
Speaker 3: cigarette and I didn't have a lighter and I saw
Speaker 3: that he had a lighter, So that.
Speaker 1: Was a good that's good.
Speaker 2: It was a good.
Speaker 4: Oh you Goldie, I didn't recognize you confirmed that you
Speaker 4: were Golden. Would you have said, excuse me?
Speaker 1: Can I come on your lighter? And then he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're Goldie? Sorry mate, you look just like Goldie.
Speaker 2: I love John.
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, though, when you see an artist that do
Speaker 1: you approach people when it's someone that you admire and
Speaker 1: say hi, or get a selfie or whatever, or do
Speaker 1: you shy away from it?
Speaker 3: It depends if I've had a drink or not. There
Speaker 3: was actually when I used to work at Domine and
Speaker 3: and I did a went along to a Stephen Maltmas
Speaker 3: and the Jicks radio session, and I'm a pretty big.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I went up to Stephen Matmos and I said, Hili,
Speaker 3: I'm Stephen, which is really really a pursing anything.
Speaker 2: I'd talk to any of my heares.
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