WEBVTT - Ep 119: Squid's Ollie Judge 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:05.080 We're getting some good ambience. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:06.800 Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's good. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.640 Man on bike. Well keep that it was child crying 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.840 quick keep that in. Hello and welcome to Midnight Chats, 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.840 a podcast of informal interviews with musicians we love, posted 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.239 weekly at midnight to suit these very casual conversations. This 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.920 week's episode is hosted by me Stuart Stubbs, the editor 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:33.720 of Loud and Quiet magazine. Episode one hundred and nineteen 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.880 of the podcast has got a bit of a different 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.280 feel to previous ones. It was recorded earlier this year 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.159 in June twenty twenty two in Barcelona. I was out 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.479 there for Primavera Sound, as was my guest Ollie Judge, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.960 the drummer and singer of Bristol based band Squid. We 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.120 were there at the festival. I've been there for a 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.920 good week. We were out there covering it. We're a 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.520 partner of that festival. We go every year. We have 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.600 a lovely, lovely time and we tried to meet up 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.480 with a couple of bands each time and interview them. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.440 We've done a couple of podcasts there before and then 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:13.840 normally quite hastily put together Angel Olsen episode which was 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.760 a long time ago. Now it's still out there. If 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.720 you'd like to go and find it, just go back 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.560 through the feed. That was recorded at Prima Berea, but 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.200 it was in a very busy lobby, hotel lobby where 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.320 all the bands stay, so the sound quality wasn't great 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.680 for this one. I had an idea of Ollie and 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:38.520 myself walking along the seafront, walking along, picking up the 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:44.280 sounds of the sea and the ambiance of a lovely Barcelona. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.400 And then we got there and the weather was beautiful, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.440 but there was still too much wind down actually on 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:53.920 the sea for us to do that and for it 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.800 to be audible. So what we did was we sat 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.360 on a park bench. As you're about to hear, there 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.360 was a park near our hotels. Our hotels were very 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.400 close to each other. We met outside the one I 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.760 was staying in. We walked to the park and we 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.320 recorded this. Has it worked as an experiment, I'll let 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.320 you be the judge of that, I'd be interested to know, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.239 so feel free to dm us on Instagram at Loud 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.240 and Quiet mag if you have an opinion on it. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.600 The idea was that you would get a sense of 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.400 place and it wouldn't just be two voices in a 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.720 very still room. We thought we'd make the most of 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.200 being in such a lovely environment, so that was what 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.120 we were going for. So it does sound a little 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.560 bit different, but I very much enjoyed talking to Olie. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.639 I've met him a fair few times before. In fact, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.600 we featured Squid on the cover of Loud and Quiet 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.880 last year when their debut album Bright green Field came out, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:50.160 and I photographed the cover feature, which is not something 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.880 I do. I'm not a photographer, but there were lockdown restrictions. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.359 It's a long, boring story that I won't go into now, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.240 but in men I had to photograph cover myself. I 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.240 think I did all right. I think I did okay. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.280 I didn't embarrass myself too much. There's a link below 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.880 this episode to that cover interview. There's also a link 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.360 to the mittens that I bemoan for a lot of 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.520 this episode, the Loud and Quiet gloves that we've made 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:22.600 and are selling like shit sandwiches, And there's maybe a 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.280 few other links down there. I'll see what I can 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.680 dig out. Ollie and I talk about NFTs, we talk 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.760 about prima er itself, religion, warp records, and there is 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.160 towards the end of the conversation a few kind of 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.760 little hints that maybe what the new Squid album is 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.440 going to sound like. Perhaps. Thank you for listening. If 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.640 you enjoy it, please do tell a friend. That's the 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.280 thing that we're really trying to get people to do 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.240 at the moment. Tell a mate, go back, listen to 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.080 some of our old ones. If this is your first 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.840 time here, spread the word. We want as many people 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.840 to listen to Midnight Chats as possible, obviously, and if 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.240 you really do like it, then there is also a 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.000 link below where you can support the show with the donation, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.440 but more importantly, just tell someone Okay, thanks very much. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:12.520 This is episode one hundred and nineteen. Myself, Ollie Judge 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:20.440 from Squid sat on a park bench in Barcelona. So 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.240 this is nice. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.239 It is very nice. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.719 Set the scene. Set the scene for us. Where we 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.520 are right now. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:31.080 We are just in your garden, I think if you're 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:32.360 your hotel room. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:37.120 Yeah it's huge, isn't it. Yeah, big park with a 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.120 massive structure in the lake. Yeah, we're in a park 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.680 that it's quite a It feels like the sort of 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.640 park that might be in Blade Runner to me, really well, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:52.080 you know, like this over here feels like quite futuristic, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.279 but in an eighty very eighties waye. It looks like 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.799 there's a disused sort of roller coaster. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.359 European Runner. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.880 Yeah, European plays Runner here. So I had an idea 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.800 for this, which was that we were going to have 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.400 a romantic walk along the beach while we record this podcast, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:16.000 Dane Low kind of style exactly. Instead we're sat next 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.400 a very unhappy child. But it's so windy down there. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.200 We've come to this park. We have a premium erous sounds. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:30.520 You're playing today today, Caught to eight, drove in last yesterday? Yes, yeah, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.360 and this is your first time playing it? 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:38.560 Yeah, second time playing in Spain. It's very nice, it's 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:39.280 very relaxing. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.479 It's really hot. It's about twenty five is in the morning. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.320 It's about twenty fives already. How are you in the heat? 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.560 I'm terrible in the heat. I usually burn. Yeah. I've 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.200 asked you to bring some cream. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.640 Yeah, happy to, happy to for the talent. Got to 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:56.239 keep the talent. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.520 I'm not very good in the heat. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.680 Yeah, I go red, come monster, and you're so. Our 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.080 hotels are just over there. What's what's your hotel. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.520 Like, well, we've got a rooftop pool which is pretty 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:07.560 it's pretty cool. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.560 That's pretty swanky. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.000 Goldie staying in there as well. Yeah, I saw him 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.800 in the morning. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good breakfast as well. Yeah, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.159 fresh fruit, it's very nice. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.560 Did you take anything away from breakfast? I don't. They 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.640 don't like it, I've found out. But have you really? Yeah, well, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.800 our hotels are sign do you not steal as a 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.560 sign saying please eat the food here and leave, do 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.320 not take it with you? Really, no one's paying attention 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.240 to that sign. Yeah. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.680 It's really handy when you're going for a drive the 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.640 next day when you've got to drive to another gig 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.480 because you just make a sandwich. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:49.720 In the morning, you have to get a lunch in 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:50.279 the way. Yeah. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.920 Yeah, this morning, it's just purely purely breakfast on site. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:59.200 Yeah. And your day. So your day, now, how does 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.760 that look? Because you're playing around like between seven and eight, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.359 aren't you around a half seven ish? 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:04.800 Yeah? 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.880 So I've got to be there at like five, So 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.680 do this have a coffee, get back to the pool, yeah, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.160 might go for a swim beach. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:18.520 Do you tend to get nervous before a show, and 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.440 if so, how many how many hours before the show 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:23.840 do you start to think about it? 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.120 I think, like pre Lockdown, I never used to get nervous, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:31.360 but nowadays I get quite nervous for gigs. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.600 Mainly like headline shows. I think. So it's like, you 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.600 know that all. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.520 These people have bought tickets see you, so that that's 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.200 what's made That's that's the difference since Lockdown? 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:43.840 Yeah? 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.520 Is it because you're you're aware of the fact that 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.560 Is it because you're aware of that everyone's had a 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.400 miserable time and they're now there for a good time. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.480 No, it's more like you know, like people have come 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.240 see you play, like they haven't. You're not like supporting 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.960 anyone or like it's kind of all about squid and 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.160 you just want to put on a good show. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.880 I think, yeah, I think that's the nerve wrecking thing. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.720 We've got so much on stage now it kind of 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.000 takes at least like two hours to set up. So 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.320 when you get to a festival, you've got half an 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:17.520 hour set up with gongs. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:20.800 How many gongs are we talking now? 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.640 We've wheeled it down to one that used to be two. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.440 It was it was a hard bargain, but I think it. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.080 Had to be to leave a gong behind. Well, tonight, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.960 you're on a stage. You've not been to the site before, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:37.520 have You're not? You're on what most people consider the 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.080 best stage. Oh great, Yeah, it's the stage that paved. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.120 We're in the second week right now, and last weekend 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.800 Pavement played on the first night and they wanted to 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.400 play the stage you're playing. They weren't allowed because it's 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.559 a bit smaller. It's it's a bit smaller, but it's 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.720 it's big. I don't want to add to your nerves, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.000 but it's absolutely massive and everyone's expectation is really high 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.040 because it's the best one. So I will they will 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 let you know if they don't know. It's it's kind 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.000 of a bit like an amphitheater, so like there's these 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:14.040 steps that seat slash steps that kind of wrap around it. Yeah, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.640 it's yeah, it's the one that it's the one. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.000 So yeah, I heard it. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.920 You've gone straight in at that one because I think 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.560 people normally work. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.559 Yeah, I heard it was in the ray band stage 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.040 maybe before. Yeah, it's quite upsetting. So I just lost 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.199 my three ray bands. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:33.720 Though against me. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.360 You used to get you did used to get three 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.640 ray bands I think for playing it. But now well 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.240 now it's sponsored by a car company. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:47.160 Great, So there's an NFT stage as well, it's there. Yeah. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.320 I think we saw a Black Country the other day 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.559 and they said they played on the NFT stage. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.760 Oh hey, that explains what that stage is. It's called binance, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.959 I think. I think I keep calling it bit fake, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.560 but I think it's called finance. And there are certain 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.360 stages or the stages are sponsored, and there's someone I'm like, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.240 I know what that company is, Like there's an Estrella stage, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.760 but there's someone I don't. I don't know. I don't 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:15.760 actually know what that thing is. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.840 Something like kind of Nathan Barley. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.040 Okay, so that's an I mean, where where do then 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:33.719 a squid done an NFT. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.679 Not yet, Well we'll see how it pans up. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.840 Yeah, where where do you stand on the n FT? 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.880 I stand on the kind of I have no idea 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.679 what they are, what it is, and yeah, I mean 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.000 I'm only twenty seven, but it makes me feel ancient ancient. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:52.280 Yeah. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.160 Yeah, with things like that, I do feel I should 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.680 try to engage with it and know what it is. Yeah, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.559 so I don't turn into like an old grumpy man 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.960 that thinks that the past was better than Yeah, but 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.959 it's hard. I know, It's just it's hard to have 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.040 the energy to do it. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.840 I kind of think back to like when things are invented, 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.760 like say bluetooth like headsets. I used to see people 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.400 walking around like talking to themselves and be like, oh god, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.520 it's that what the future is going to be. It's 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.280 it's the kind of the same with NFTs. Kind of 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.720 don't get it now, but like maybe in five years. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.679 Well, I'm surprised they've I'm surprised they are taking that 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.920 that's still here. I thought it might be a month long, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.640 a few months, like, well this is nonsense. Yeah, but 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.000 it's big money, isn't it? What you send on TikTok. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.600 I've got a downloaded on my phone. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.480 Yeah, I never go on it because I'm worried about 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.000 getting dragged into it. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.400 Yeah, I can't. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.400 I spend a lot of time on social media, and 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.960 I think that would just be the tipping point I've 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.200 gotten if I gotten TikTok. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:03.800 But what one do you waste the most amount of 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:04.160 time on? 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.800 Probably Instagram kind of leaning over into Twitter nowadays as Yeah, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.920 quite like that and is this the band account or 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.760 your own account band account? Yeah, yeah, got a bit 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:24.479 more purchase with the people actually. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:29.959 Respond yeah, yeah, well we've got on Twitter, We've only 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.839 got I don't have a personal and we've got a 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.640 magazine one and I shouldn't be surprised by this anymore, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.600 but I'm still surprised by how much people ignore or something. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.560 I don't ignore you guys, you don't, don't, but you know, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:52.600 there'd be times I think if we're operating on free 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.040 likes from what I would consider a very good joke, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.000 my really good stuff. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.040 Trim delat, Yeah. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.360 The really the good ship, I'm getting three likes, and 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:05.880 I'm having to be happy with that. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.040 Those three people, they're really. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.719 Liking it, they're really enjoying it. On the n f 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:17.680 T front, as I feel like, because you're signed to WARP, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.960 I don't know why. I just this is a sweeping statement. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.280 I feel like that's a WARP thing. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:23.520 Yeah, I know what you mean. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.160 I think Aphex Twin did one maybe a year or 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.839 two ago. But yeah, I know what you mean. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:31.600 Very like techy. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.600 It's techy and your website has got I'm not going 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.120 to say an n f T feel because I don't 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.240 really know what FT is, but it's I agree, do 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.040 you know what I mean? Like, if you if you're listening, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.520 you haven't been on the Squid's website, check it out. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.520 Out, go on the message boards. We never we're never 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:51.880 on it. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.000 People on it when we when we release the album, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.360 there are people on it, and I try to try 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.880 to keep engaged it, but it's pretty hard. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.960 How would you describe the site? How would you sell 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:04.640 the site? Now? 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.120 To some it's it's like an n FT. 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.679 It's no, it's like we tried to create like a 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:17.400 fictional kind of city. I don't know if you're into 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.760 video games, but it looks a bit like Halo mm. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.840 And there's some nice music on there. There's some like 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.680 secret passwords that you can put in there that take 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.520 you to take you to the websites. It's the album 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.360 that's really proud of it. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.200 It's well, it reminds me of the sort of website 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.680 like websites used to be more fun than they are now. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.880 They're all just very yeah, and they're really as included. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.720 They're just quiet, sort about ease of use, which is 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.200 good for a user, but it kind of has taken 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.480 out any of the kind of thing of it and 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.640 yours has got like something to it. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.120 Yeah, I would say nice. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.760 I mean the label for this stuff, I think, Yeah, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.360 they're just very good. And do they just how does 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.480 that work? Do you have? Do you say that we've 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.720 got this idea for a website and they say that's fine, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.160 well making that for you? Or do you say we're 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:10.600 going to do this. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.680 We definitely need pushing. We're kind of. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.760 I mean, it's like just five people kind of showing 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.440 over each other. No one has like the final say, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.560 and we're not very Yeah, we don't really know where 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.680 to look for all that stuff, so what kind of 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.880 just send us a list of stuff which is really nice? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.720 But yeah, we're really bad at all the artwork. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:38.160 And we've all got five different minds shouting over each other. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:38.960 I think. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.480 I think if you're styling it out, who is the 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.960 most in the band? Who is the most visually artie? 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:48.720 Did any of you study art? 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.960 No that three of three studied music, one did neuroscience, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:59.400 and I did I did one of those media studies. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.560 So what did you the best? 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.720 Really? What did you did you? Is there any transferable 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.800 skills from your media studies degree? I'm not going to 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.840 be down on media studies. I know people, that's the thing, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.920 isn't it deeper? Always Ay, that's not a degree. I 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.040 did film and drama and I studied media studies at 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.720 a level. So I'm with you. I'm in your team. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.880 But did you is there anything that you that you 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.960 use from that? This is that's what crap? No, it 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.160 was because I used to interview What did you learn 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.800 in your degree that you can bring to the position? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.040 Squid Well, I used to work at record labels, so 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.960 it's actually really handy for that, and by extension, working 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.680 at record labels is really handy for being in a band. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.720 So it's kind of like through through a few channels. 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.320 It's been it's been pretty useful. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.280 If you go to Brighton. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.080 Yeah, yeah, I went to Brighton and the rest went 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.880 to Sussex because I applied. I applied to go to 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.440 Brighton last minute. I didn't have the grades to get 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.440 in there, but I just needed one more, one more choice. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:11.200 And I didn't realize that Brighton was in Sussex when 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.679 I was like nineteen. She's quite worrying, but yeah, I 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.040 turned up to Brighton and then I knew Louis already 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.040 from from home. I turned up at a house party 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.360 and Louis was there and I was like, I thought 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.280 you were I think you're going to Union, like the 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.680 Midlands or something. Sussex. This is Sussex. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:38.520 So that's that's good and I still wanted to be today. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.080 You were saying you drove from Switzerland. Yeah, you're currently 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:42.520 doing a very casual tool. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:43.640 Yeah, very casual. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.880 It's pretty it's just a holiday pretty much. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:51.080 Yeah, because my my parents just sold up everything in 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.720 the UK and moved to France. So fair place the 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.000 new places in between here and where we were in Switzerland. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.000 So just how do were they moving out of? Was 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:04.040 that your childhood home? 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.720 Yeah, but it was also my dad's childhood home because 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.040 you lived there for there for like fifty five years 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:11.440 or something. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.560 That's huge, isn't it. How I was going to ask, 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.000 how do you feel about it? But I'm actually just 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.120 going to have your dad feel. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.000 I think a lot worse than me. I think. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.080 He says he keeps on having like recurring dreams that 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.840 he goes into the house and then he notices that 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:31.320 someone else lives there, and then he asked do they discoper? 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.600 I think I'm pretty sure they're pretty happy in France. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.520 Do you how does it feel them feeling because you're 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.840 you live in Bristol now yeah yeah, yeah, and obviously 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.320 you're quite settled there into it, into Bristol life. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.600 Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think I'll be there. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.879 Yeah, but how because my mum still lives in the 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.840 hand that I oh yeah, Ivenue, Yeah, And I don't 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.000 know how i'd feel if she suddenly Like it's quite 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.720 a big thing, isn't it when you're family at home, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.880 if it's one, if you've had one, yeah, and then 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.120 it is no longer there and your parents have moved 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.320 to a completely different country. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.240 I know it is. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.159 Does it feel? I don't know. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.920 I felt kind of like a lot of people came 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.560 up to me and like, oh, you know, you're right, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.720 how do you feel? And I was just kind of 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.040 kind of fine, to be honest, like because I haven't 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.760 really had any attachment to like Chippenham where I grew 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.560 up in a while. I've lived in Brighton and London 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.080 and Bristol, so I was kind of barely there. I 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.320 didn't really like, I wasn't really there for like ten years, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.800 so kind of settled more in Bristol. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.760 Yeah, and now you can go to France and free. 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:44.639 So that how's your French? 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:56.199 My face is dreadful, we see, Yeah, no it's dreadful. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.920 I think I had quite a I wouldn't say traumatic, 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.000 but my French teacher at school really didn't like me. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.760 It was like a giddy t shoes as well shocking. 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.520 What was can you remember the teacher's name, miss, miss Powell? 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.960 Miss Powell? What had you done? 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.639 I think my brother, who was a bit of a 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:25.200 bit of a troublemaker, she taught him and just kind. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.119 Of instantly, right, that makes sense, she got the iron fist? 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.280 Was was was there? What kind of school did you 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.040 go to? Was it a nice school? Was it like 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.040 a bit of a it was just a standard. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.720 School, just standard standard school. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.400 Yeah, yeah, it was your French class. We would call 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.119 it the doss subject. I don't think people use the 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:50.560 word us. Yeah I used dusting about it. But you 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.960 think young people use that word now? I bet they? 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:54.359 I bet they don't. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.200 Yeah, thinking about it, no, it probably was. Yeah, it was. 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.440 It was like my school was quiet. I didn't necessarily 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.120 realized it at the time. It was quite a rough school. Yeah, 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.159 I could just state school, and we had we did Spanish, 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:11.000 we didn't do French. But Jesus Christ, poor teachers, because 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.879 it was just chaos in that lesson, And it's the 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:20.080 one lesson that I wish i'd actually actually replied myself. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.240 that's my regret from school. I'm terrible with because I'd 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.200 love to swing languages. 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.320