Speaker 1: I am all in again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo, an
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio podcast. Second to last episode of Bunheads, The weird.
Speaker 2: It's I actually am experiencing like a little bit of
Speaker 2: that same sort of feeling I got when I found
Speaker 2: out it didn't get a second season. It makes me sad.
Speaker 1: Well, this episode was good, and I do think it's
Speaker 1: because Daniel Paladino is the director, and.
Speaker 2: I literally totally agree with you. I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2: He wrote it and directed it, and it had a
Speaker 2: lot of Gilmore feels to it in a good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: How about the fire though, kind of made me go
Speaker 2: oh too, a little too accurate, a little.
Speaker 1: Too accurate, a little too soon. Yeah, like just you know,
Speaker 1: it's just wow.
Speaker 2: Also the fact that the town's called Paradise, and remember
Speaker 2: there was that.
Speaker 1: Terrible fire, massive fire in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. It was just a lot of parallel.
Speaker 2: That's weird. Yeah, I will say I sort of liked
Speaker 2: the plot premise because it brought everybody together, which I
Speaker 2: know we always talk about when we did Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: I have a question, so this town is Paradise, California, but.
Speaker 2: It's not the paradise up here in northern California. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm up in northern California right now. The vibe I'm
Speaker 2: getting is it's sort of near the way they well,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more near Ventura, because remember they
Speaker 2: did like a road trip once to oh Hi to
Speaker 2: oh Hi, and didn't they go to La for a
Speaker 2: night and they went to Oxnard. And in this one
Speaker 2: they mentioned the Madonna in which is in San Luis Obispo,
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about. I feel like we're supposed to
Speaker 2: envision this place somewhere between La and San Luis Obispo.
Speaker 2: So I'm picturing it more like the Ohi area, Santa
Speaker 2: Barbara area, a Tascadero, all the towns Santa Maria.
Speaker 1: But they said that it was like Ohi was two
Speaker 1: hours away, So.
Speaker 2: Two hours away from Ohi would be about Santa Maria. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I'm picturing it very indirectly in between La
Speaker 2: and maybe Carmel, so kind of maybe near I'm going Piso. Yeah, Jinks,
Speaker 2: Jinks on Jinks. Remember when you were a kid and
Speaker 2: then you couldn't talk until I said your name, Daniel.
Speaker 2: You can go a lot of Gilmore sort of vibes
Speaker 2: and appearances because Sean Gunn was in this.
Speaker 1: I know lit old Kirk who's not Kirk isn't this?
Speaker 2: And literally, Liza Wyld's playing an adult Paris, even with
Speaker 2: like all her money and getting the helicopter and the
Speaker 2: whole thing. I'm like, she's literally playing Paris totally totally.
Speaker 1: It's should we start off at the beginning, which was
Speaker 1: all too relatable because I feel like I am definitely guilty.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about sasha apartment? Oh my god? I
Speaker 2: actually this is my thing about this show. The reason
Speaker 2: I like it so much and the reason I am
Speaker 2: so bummed there isn't More is because I really started
Speaker 2: to like all the girls. It's like, I hate to
Speaker 2: say it, but I'm not missing Fanny. I don't care
Speaker 2: because I'm so into the girls and now I feel
Speaker 2: like it's really about the girls. And Michelle is sort
Speaker 2: of the teacher, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: sort of like the guidance. She's sort of the cool
Speaker 2: aunt or the mom figure or the guidance counselor the teacher.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, the plot is so much about the girls.
Speaker 1: That is a good point. I feel like the whole
Speaker 1: beginning half of the season was all about Michelle, the
Speaker 1: whole Michelle, and now she's one of five storylines. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, I do get that.
Speaker 2: So the apartment thing, so Sasha's like comes home and
Speaker 2: her door's open. She just calls everybody.
Speaker 1: And convinced that there's just a robber intruder.
Speaker 2: First of all, I love that I love her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I think you so great, so cool. I love that
Speaker 2: he comes over, and then I love that Boo's parents
Speaker 2: came over. And by the way, did you notice that
Speaker 2: is are you Gray's Anatomy fan? No, so the actor
Speaker 2: that plays Boo's dad, and somebody fact check me, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it is the bartender character from Gray's
Speaker 2: Anatomy who I think ultimately dies is killed in Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 2: but he was sort of this like bit player, but
Speaker 2: he was in like almost every episode because they always
Speaker 2: go to the bar, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's him. I know it is.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's back to back to the show. But
Speaker 1: it is hilarious though that like Roman shows up first,
Speaker 1: he's the first person to show up. He's going through
Speaker 1: all the rooms. Sasha's like, I'm not going to He's
Speaker 1: like you, and she's like holding onto his back. They
Speaker 1: you know, look through all the rooms and he goes
Speaker 1: into the bathroom and starts screaming and.
Speaker 2: He comes out.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's Fider was going to kill me. I
Speaker 1: I was laughing through all of this.
Speaker 2: I liked as he got your note about the eyeliner.
Speaker 1: He did, it's got toned down.
Speaker 2: You're so right. I noticed it was like, pretty good.
Speaker 2: He looks good. That guy's cute. It's a perfect guy
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: Okay, So my question for you is, so then we're
Speaker 1: definitely going out of order. But let's just talk about
Speaker 1: this storyline. So obviously, Boo's parents come running in with Boo,
Speaker 1: which again I loved. I totally agree with you. It
Speaker 1: was so cute. It made me that's Sasha's family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were so great.
Speaker 1: They were so great. But do you think they would
Speaker 1: have gone down and dirty if they hadn't arrived Roman
Speaker 1: and Sasha.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. So I'm assuming yes, and
Speaker 2: I'm assuming we're sort of supposed to be thinking about
Speaker 2: that because she finds, you know, Michelle finds the condom
Speaker 2: and it's so unclear, like who's bose is it? So
Speaker 2: I don't know because it all feels it feels like
Speaker 2: they're all sort of like dipping their toe in, but
Speaker 2: they're all also not so it's like I think, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of laying down kissing stuff they could have done.
Speaker 2: So it was sort of like, I think we're meant
Speaker 2: to sort of wonder, wonder what's going on with all
Speaker 2: these growing teens fair well.
Speaker 1: At the same time, Michelle, Truly and Talia are together
Speaker 1: and Talia is talking about getting married, and.
Speaker 2: I say that I like Michelle more when Talia and
Speaker 2: Truly are around her, because here's here's what I find.
Speaker 2: Michelle is in the middle. Now. Truly is super over
Speaker 2: the top nutty character, and yet it's not annoying because
Speaker 2: she's sort of it's her. She is the quirky and
Speaker 2: she's a bit player, right, She's not the whole show.
Speaker 2: And her whole bridesmaid thing made of honor had me giggling.
Speaker 2: I've always felt that Talia was so chill, right, She's
Speaker 2: not overacting at all, So I think that puts Michelle
Speaker 2: in a much better role, she's less annoying now she
Speaker 2: really is not bothering me as much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I do like the three
Speaker 1: of them together. I think they all are a nice
Speaker 1: balance to each other because Talia is the exact opposite
Speaker 1: of Truly, Yet those two stand alone by themselves very well.
Speaker 2: I think when Michelle was like sliding the boys cots,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's actually funny, And when she
Speaker 2: drops the conum, it's all like she's just not so
Speaker 2: over the top and Broadway, did you watch Younger?
Speaker 1: No? I, well, I take that back. I know I
Speaker 1: dabbled in a few episodes on that first season, but
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't like religiously follow it.
Speaker 2: So what I would say is Setton Foster is sort
Speaker 2: of in the middle again in that show, because Hillary
Speaker 2: Duff and this actor Nico Tortorella are sort of the
Speaker 2: more like Talia's right, They're very cool, they're very chill,
Speaker 2: not over doing it. And then the not Peter Herman,
Speaker 2: but like the head of the ad agency is very truly,
Speaker 2: she's like over the top, crazy outfits, and it makes
Speaker 2: Setton Foster more chill, palatable, like not annoying. In Younger
Speaker 2: because the somebody else is that over the top person,
Speaker 2: so she isn't. I don't know. I think she found
Speaker 2: her way, Like she's just much cooler now, and I
Speaker 2: want to keep watching these people. Yeah, very bomb it
Speaker 2: got canceled. This is the point where I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 2: this show really finally found its way and I'm super bombed.
Speaker 1: I want somebody to ask Amy Shirmon Pella, you know,
Speaker 1: if she felt like it was cut too soon. Truly
Speaker 1: accepts being a native honor but doesn't even really accept it.
Speaker 1: She basically asked, I loved it, and she's interrupting the
Speaker 1: dance class to show Michelle her maid of Honor dress.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I enjoyed all of this. But the funny
Speaker 1: part is shann Gunn comes busting through with a whistle
Speaker 1: and he's being.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he was way better at this
Speaker 2: guy than the uh coffee guy.
Speaker 1: I agree, But he is basically the captain of like
Speaker 1: the like you like, you know, how you have floor
Speaker 1: wardens at your office, like he was the neighborhood warden.
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm I'm assuming you were the floor warden.
Speaker 1: I was. I was not the floor warden.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, it's that like the cap the fire
Speaker 2: captain of your office. So they make sure everybody gets there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like when there's an earthquake, like they are
Speaker 1: responsible for checking everyone's offices and like seeing who is
Speaker 1: accounted for and who isn't.
Speaker 2: It's a big jo, it's a big job. So was
Speaker 2: so was this? Now are we to assume Kirk Sean
Speaker 2: Gunn is the coffee guy and this guy like is
Speaker 2: that the is it supposed to be the same guy?
Speaker 1: I don't know, we got to look that up. Is
Speaker 1: it how a character name is named Bash.
Speaker 2: And Bash was the coffee guy, wasn't he? Okay, so
Speaker 2: it's one guy. So he's the same guy, all right.
Speaker 1: So he's basically this is where we get the first
Speaker 1: note that there's a fire in that people have to
Speaker 1: evacuate and all the girls start yelling, I'm Zone A,
Speaker 1: Zone B, Zone C, Zone C D. Whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they knew right away. Okay, maybe right away.
Speaker 1: So maybe I feel like it was a very familiar thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe they live in the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 2: They definitely, they definitely don't, but.
Speaker 1: But maybe and yeah, so you know that's that's going on.
Speaker 1: Italia gets nervous, she doesn't want to reschedule the wedding.
Speaker 1: All kind of this is the drama of the episode.
Speaker 1: But they all go to the evacuation center. There's a
Speaker 1: west side, and.
Speaker 2: We just like address the drama of the episode, because like,
Speaker 2: the reason I like this episode is a couple of things. One,
Speaker 2: I like the can the guy get here? And then
Speaker 2: addressing is he too old? And then Michelle and Talia
Speaker 2: kind of have a fight over it, which Truly just
Speaker 2: wants to be a bridesmaid so bad that she's just
Speaker 2: like disappointed. And then that Paris aka Millie or whatever
Speaker 2: her name is sends the helicopter and we get that
Speaker 2: awesome scene with Truly and Eliza Wiles's character that was
Speaker 2: so good. I was like, these are all they're all
Speaker 2: knowing who they are.
Speaker 1: Now you forgot the condom condom gait as well was
Speaker 1: a big oh, Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they got that's a difference. Yes, she finds the
Speaker 2: condom under the thing and she's wondering whose it is.
Speaker 2: And then there's kind of the funny thing at the end. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, did you not love the end when
Speaker 2: all the firemen walk in and Goodeau is one of
Speaker 2: the firemen. I was like, well done.
Speaker 1: I know, well done. So my question to you is,
Speaker 1: whose condom do you think it is?
Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been anyone's. I don't know
Speaker 2: why we just assume it's Ginny's or Booze or Sasha,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't think it's to be one of theirs.
Speaker 2: It could be like nine years old under that weird cabinet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's leftover. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: like how.
Speaker 2: Boo says I'm on the pill, but isn't having sex?
Speaker 2: Like you're really getting to know these girls, right, and
Speaker 2: then we get the cute thing with what's her doozy
Speaker 2: and the sort of guy you think is dopey, but
Speaker 2: that ends up knowing all about photography? What's her name?
Speaker 1: The taller girl, Melanie, Melanie Melanie.
Speaker 2: So I kind of enjoyed that her brother's dopey friend
Speaker 2: isn't dopey and she's sort of starting to like his Yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy's cool.
Speaker 1: I was like, that guy's cool. He's also super cute
Speaker 1: and I like them too together and me too. Obviously
Speaker 1: we get the payoff that there is something going on
Speaker 1: between the two.
Speaker 2: Did you have a slight inkling that maybe she was
Speaker 2: gonna be with Cosette or was that just me?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't get that. But the second Deaz
Speaker 1: popped onto the screen, I was like, Okay, well that's
Speaker 1: so she's gonna end up with.
Speaker 2: And it was cute because they didn't get to kiss.
Speaker 2: It was like they sort of were going to and
Speaker 2: then it got interrupted or something. Yeah, I have to say,
Speaker 2: this is this show anyone listening. The second half of
Speaker 2: bun Head Season one is so good that it makes
Speaker 2: you want to have more of it. It's just a
Speaker 2: bummer because the first half just had to find its
Speaker 2: way a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I liked the getting everybody together. I like
Speaker 2: them all being in the dance studio. I liked all
Speaker 2: the cots. I liked the you get everybody in one room.
Speaker 1: I like all four girls with all four guys like
Speaker 1: together totally. There was something really fun about that them
Speaker 1: playing cards and then you know, Michelle coming up and
Speaker 1: being like pulling the four girls away and then.
Speaker 2: Doing like the Tommy Lee Jones impressions. So I've never
Speaker 2: seen Hope spring. So I don't know what because but
Speaker 2: there is a part where he's totally doing Tommy Lee
Speaker 2: Jones and the Fugitive, and I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so with you. I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: I thought I and Is into it when they when
Speaker 2: they gotten to the brawl, I was like, oh, come
Speaker 2: on whatever. But in general I liked it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, to talk about Jenny getting caught smelling the guy,
Speaker 1: it's just so cute.
Speaker 2: But I'm so cute.
Speaker 1: But that's just so funny. I mean, not to be creepy,
Speaker 1: but I think all of us had that moment in
Speaker 1: high school where there was something of the boys and
Speaker 1: you were like, oh my god, this is his and
Speaker 1: this was literally that moment. Poor Ginny, my poor poor thing.
Speaker 1: Very rarely does it happen that the sister catches you
Speaker 1: being a creep.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just liked it all. That's all I
Speaker 2: can say. I just liked it. Correct and Cosette. What
Speaker 2: you know, there was an exchange between Cosette and No
Speaker 2: Ginny that I somehow blinked. What did Cosette say to her? Again?
Speaker 2: I know she said you got to be friends with
Speaker 2: me to get to my brother. But was that this
Speaker 2: episode of the one before? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I no, that's this episode, so basically because Ginny has
Speaker 1: been kind of a bee towards Cosette, not giving her
Speaker 1: the time of day, and because that basically was like
Speaker 1: pull the spice, girls, if you want to get with me,
Speaker 1: you better listen carefully or not me. But you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like or that's not the line I
Speaker 1: was trying to quote, Uh, if you want to be
Speaker 1: a mad lover, you gotta get with my friends. Like
Speaker 1: literally that.
Speaker 2: Lover, you gotta get in with his sister.
Speaker 1: Exactly, but like as if you know whatever my point
Speaker 1: being is. Basically, Cosette was, dude, if you want in
Speaker 1: with the bro, you like, gott to be in with me,
Speaker 1: otherwise it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: I liked it, so okay, so I get it. They're
Speaker 2: just sort of coming to a peace offering kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's talk about Talia and Michelle though, because I
Speaker 1: found that conversation very interesting, where Michelle basically was like, look,
Speaker 1: I are you, why are you doing this? Is this
Speaker 1: really what you want? And blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I sort of think it is what she wants. I
Speaker 2: actually think Talia wants to marry this guy. Yes, he's old,
Speaker 2: but she wants to marry him, and she's happy with that.
Speaker 2: It's Michelle that's not happy just being married to Rick.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: Talia cares if she's not going on stage, right.
Speaker 1: But I think Michelle's whole thing, which you know, friend
Speaker 1: of friend, she just brought up her concerns and she
Speaker 1: was she just wanted to make sure her friend really
Speaker 1: wanted this, you know, for the right reasons, not just
Speaker 1: for money or not just to get married and not
Speaker 1: you know whatever.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad they made up. I'm glad they had
Speaker 2: the conversation. I thought it was a good conversation to have,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that it didn't rag out. It's like,
Speaker 2: make up cares, let her do what she wants.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean the big revelation is that Talia
Speaker 1: is pregnant. So yeah, I once Michelle heard that, she
Speaker 1: kind of just was like, and we're gonna do this.
Speaker 2: She's like, all, raise the baby. I mean, the whole
Speaker 2: thing was. I think the thing I'm liking about this
Speaker 2: episode is there's a lot happening right think about it.
Speaker 2: We've got the fire situation, We've got all the girls
Speaker 2: and their boyfriends. And we've got Cosette and we've got
Speaker 2: her hunky brother, and then we've got this thing with Dez,
Speaker 2: and then we've got randomly, Sean Kirk is not Sean Kirk,
Speaker 2: Sean Gunn is in it. And Liza, while sort of
Speaker 2: does this really nice gesture for her sister, right, she
Speaker 2: didn't send the helicopter so Talia, a girl she doesn't
Speaker 2: even know, could get married. She did it because her
Speaker 2: sister so badly wanted to be the bridesmaid. And you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm actually starting to care about all
Speaker 2: these people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, and I selfish Love and Franky
Speaker 1: are probably going to date the next episode.
Speaker 2: Right, like we're setting ourselves up for such a great
Speaker 2: season two that never happened, because I also like, I mean,
Speaker 2: first of all, the fireman walking in It's literally this
Speaker 2: episode is so timely because it could have been today,
Speaker 2: right where you're like, yay, the firemen are heroes and
Speaker 2: they're so hunky, and then you're like, yeah, GOODO also
Speaker 2: is a volunteer fireman saving everybody, and then you get
Speaker 2: the vibe, Okay, she's gonna like hook it up with
Speaker 2: him for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she puts the condom in her pocket. Yeah, spicy.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was great. It's like a ten out
Speaker 2: of ten episode. Like I said, I've said it so
Speaker 2: many times. I don't want to be a circle talker.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's it didn't get a second season
Speaker 2: because the first half wasn't strong enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually atrocious.
Speaker 2: And you're kind of bothered by its poor Sutton Foster
Speaker 2: because now she's good. She's really less annoying. Am I right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: She's less annoying, and she's kind of found her way,
Speaker 2: and I sort of think she's kind of cool. Actually,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a bomber that there's only one
Speaker 2: more episode and then we never find out what happens
Speaker 2: to these people ever again, and that makes me sad.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna there's you know, Amy's Trim and Palladino,
Speaker 1: there is there is room for a Netflix reboot, So
Speaker 1: fire at twel Amy. It's twell, it's not a twall.
Speaker 1: It's as all it is. Jackie, Jackie, please come on
Speaker 1: and say it's a twelve like it's a twelve. From
Speaker 1: the video that they posted yesterday.
Speaker 2: Pull the original tape from months however long ago. I mean,
Speaker 2: you don't have to pull up right now. I'm just pretending.
Speaker 2: But I called it a twell because remember I had
Speaker 2: my whole theory that twel.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: And everyone was like, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: I was the one that said, I think it's I
Speaker 1: think at Google says at toilet too.
Speaker 2: Oh no way.
Speaker 1: But from the Amazon video yesterday they said a twelve,
Speaker 1: So I was right, and that was from the actual cast.
Speaker 1: See ye A twelve.
Speaker 2: And the only reason I was right is only because
Speaker 2: of twelve wallpaper. It's the only reason I was right
Speaker 2: because I know me some twall, So I don't know. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to read all the comments, but I did
Speaker 2: not like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was Did you watch it? I did?
Speaker 1: I did, and I asked to watch the promo, which
Speaker 1: is why I'm so convinced in my conviction that it's
Speaker 1: a twelve because they said it at least.
Speaker 2: Wait time and a trailer. I think I only watched
Speaker 2: the trailer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's social promo that it's tell it was.
Speaker 1: It was like literally like a million people saying it's
Speaker 1: wall so that's why I'm i know, interesting, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like, okay, yeah, first of all.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say the compliments. First, beautifully, it looks
Speaker 2: like a movie, and the dancing is incredible, and it
Speaker 2: looks like I'm watching a chorus line. But then there's
Speaker 2: no there there story for me yet.
Speaker 1: Well, we can give episode one a go. We can't,
Speaker 1: we will and we will, well for sure we will. Meantime,
Speaker 1: we gotta finish this series, which last next week will
Speaker 1: be the last week. That is tragic.
Speaker 2: This is the finale, finale, like finale, Bunheads, we just
Speaker 2: we just met you, Bunheads. I'm mostly gonna miss Sausha
Speaker 2: for some reason. She was always my favorite.
Speaker 1: Did she come back and do anything else? Like what?
Speaker 1: Like where did she get?
Speaker 2: She went on to do The Affair, the show The Affair.
Speaker 2: She was really really really good.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. That was a good show. I'm getting
Speaker 2: excited for Parenthood. So all right, well one more episode.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, in the meantime, Bunheads out hey, everybody,
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