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How are you tonight? 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:14.360 I'm doing good. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling actually a 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.080 lot better than I have in a while. So you've 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:25.040 caught me on a nice mental day. What's going on? Man? 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.280 You seem super refreshed and happy. It's good to see. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.880 Man, Is that true? I don't. I didn't. I never 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.400 have any idea how I'm like, And I actually I 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.200 appreciate you saying this to me because I never have 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:43.360 any idea how I'm coming off. Do I have, Like 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.000 have I been acting depressed? 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:50.040 No, I don't mean to say that. I think like tonight, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.680 it just seems like you're super You're super pumped, you know, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.360 like like you're just like it's not to say your 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.200 baseline is bad, but man, you know, it's just like 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.000 I can tell that you're you're doing good tonight. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.240 You know, well, good man, I'm glad. I you know. Well, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.120 it's funny since I've been doing this for close to 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.680 three years now, it's not even three years. Yeah, and 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:20.800 throughout that whole time, you know, sometimes I show up 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:25.320 to do this and I'm like, really, uh, I feel 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.960 very present and like with everybody and ready and excited. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.480 And then other times I show up like fucking feeling 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.679 like I'm I'm dead, and and I hate I hate 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:37.919 that because it feels like it's it almost feel like 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.240 it's out of my control. But I don't know what. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.760 I've always tried to find the equation, right, Like is 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.400 it should I drink an energy drink beforehand? Should I stop, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.200 you know, eating weird? Is it just am I just 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.320 getting tired from doing it too much? I don't. I 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.960 don't know, but I feel part of. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.400 The you know, like I had nights. I have nights 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.239 like that or like that when I show up to 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.440 work and I have like a really good day, and 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.799 I'm like, why can't I fucking have this good day 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.320 all the time? You know, Like why can't I be 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.760 this pumped about doing what I'm doing all the time? 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.040 You know, And it's almost like disappointed, you know, because 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.000 you're like, what the fuck am I doing? Every other time? 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.280 But man, I think that that's just like a human thing, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:20.720 you know. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.960 Yeah, And you know, I've got I've gotten down on 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.720 myself every once in a while because I'm like, man, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.160 you know, people go to work at fucking Chipotle for 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.919 eight hours scooping like chicken and stuff, and I am 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.520 like feeling bad about, you know, the the two hours 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.920 that I spend, you know, talking to people who are 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.480 excited to come talk. It makes me I get like 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.040 I beat myself up about it, but you know, I've 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:45.560 learned to not. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.840 I don't care, Like I don't care if you have 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.720 the happiest job ever. Like, if you're like a fucking 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.760 person who adores dogs and you just get to cuddle 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.880 cute dogs all day, you're gonna have days where you're 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.240 not fucking feeling your job. You know, you're gonna have 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.720 days even if you're doing the coolest thing ever. You're like, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.520 I would rather be at home playing video games or whatever. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.520 You know, man, So like you're doing, you're doing great, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.920 and I'm super super pumped to see what you're doing. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.480 It's really a cool time to be a gex Fand 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:14.040 because it's. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.560 Well pretty thanks, yeah, thanks, you know so, Yeah, you're right. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.200 Sometimes you have days where the dogs are nice, and 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.240 sometimes you have days where the dogs try to bite 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.239 your wiener off and you just got to accepted true. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.400 What is your name? My name is Johnny, Johnny, Johnny 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.760 be good, Johnny Rocket. You ever been to Johnny Rockets? 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.320 Yeah? The one near me closed like five years ago though, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.120 so I haven't been to one in forever. But they're 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:44.679 pretty cool. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.159 What's going what's going on with you, Johnny, What's going 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:51.720 on in the universe? 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.919 Yeah, so I'm just kind of chilling. But I called 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.720 tonight because I used to be a nine to one 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.359 one dispatcher and I wasn't sure if, like, I have 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.279 some pretty crazy stories and stuff. So I wasn't sure 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.520 if you had any questions from me, because I know, 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.920 like you know, and the kind of career that people 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.480 like see on TV and shit, and you know, it's 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.119 kind of just a something that people might have questions about, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:20.480 you know. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.320 A nine one one discusion that sounds very intense. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:30.920 Yeah, well, yes, it oscillated between being really intense and 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.919 for sitting for like three hours waiting for something to 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.159 happen at like two o'clock in the morning, you know, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.800 so you would go from like drinking lukewarm coffee lukewarm 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.880 coffee and eating hot pockets. So like someone getting shot 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.240 in the stomach. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.919 Like I like that somebody getting shot in the stomach 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.720 makes you laugh that fond memory of that phone call. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.800 I want to Okay, before we listen, I'm sure here's 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.440 the thing. I'm sure you have of a ton of 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.600 horrific and depressing things that we could get into, which 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.800 I'm down to get into. Okay, I'm not you know, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.359 I'm not shy of things that are horrific and depressing. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:17.960 But before we do that, what are tell me? Have 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.160 you how many prank calls have you gotten? Or how 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.440 many people have like called nine one one because you know, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.680 they missed their bus or spilled coffee on themselves or 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:29.440 things like that. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.320 It's quite a few, you know, so like, well, so 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.279 for the actual nine one one line, you get that sometimes, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.440 especially because I live in a state. I live in Maine, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.760 so there's a lot of like crazy storms and stuff, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.760 you know, So we'll get people who have called nine 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.960 one one and be like when is my power going 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.840 to come back on after a storm? You know, and 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.960 it's like or fucking nine one one, We don't know 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.919 when your power is going to come back on, you know. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.160 So it's like stuff like that, or like people treating 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.760 nine one one like it's their own personal army, you know, 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.600 like call nine one one to be like my neighbor 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.800 is parked in my parking space and I want you 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.440 to send a cop out to arrest them. You know, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.840 we got a ton of stuff like that where people 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.280 just like felt like they were entitled to get the 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:21.280 police called on like minor inconveniences to them, you know, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.119 which was super super annoying in terms of like prank 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:30.560 calls though, Yeah, there were some, there, there were some. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.840 They happened more like on our business line, because we 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.040 had we had a line where people could call in 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.080 for like non emergencies that we had to answer to, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.960 so like pretty consistently, so pretty consistently, we'd get people 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.400 that would call for something like uh, because we have 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.160 towns in Maine that are named after countries, right, so 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.600 there's like a Mexico Maine, you know, and they would 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.960 call in thinking that they were talking to like the 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.920 Mexico police, like the country of Mexico, and I would 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:02.360 have to spend like fifteen minutes explaining to them that 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:07.080 they're calling a town of like one thousand in Maine 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.680 and not like the country of Mexico. You know. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.160 They were they prank were they they were they calling uh? 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.400 They thought they were prank calling Mexico. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.960 No, No, it wasn't even a prank caller. It was 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:26.120 actually like people being like I haven't heard from my my, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.560 my cousin, And they went on a vacation in Mexico 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.160 and I need the police and stuff, you know. So 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.720 it just was like that was super confusing for everyone 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.920 at BOB No that like it's not you're not you're 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.480 calling You're not calling Mexico the country. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:44.840 You know. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.679 Yeah, I feel like the cartel does not have a 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.520 huge presence in Mexico Maine. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:55.280 No, not at all. No, not at all. Like I'm 0:08:55.280 --> 0:09:00.320 trying to like pranks, there were some crazy people that 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:06.200 would just like call in and just be like more 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.920 like there were a lot of people with like grudges, right, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.240 like they thought that they had been wronged by the 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.200 police before and you know, like probably head but they 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.640 would call in and like try to like mess with 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.320 dispatchers and be like I know where you live and stuff, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:26.280 and if you don't, like, if you don't like get 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.960 the officer to apologize to me, I'm gonna come over 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.360 and blah blah blah. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.319 You know, like did anyone did anyone target you specifically? 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.160 Did you get anybody who like threatened you? 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:38.280 No? 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.960 But I got called an idiot like forty five times 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:41.320 a day. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.120 You know. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:47.120 I would be like, yeah, I'd be like sorry, there's 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:52.880 nothing I can do that year dog, that year dog 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:57.200 got out and got sick from someone else's trash can, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.280 and they'd be like, you fucking idiot, I'm gonna get 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:07.840 you fired like blobs, you know, like it's yeah, well, here's. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.439 Okay, here's my question. And this is stupid. But in 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:17.000 a town of only one thousand people, does the bar 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.160 for what constitutes an emergency lower? 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.480 Yeah, that's a really good question. And it kind of 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.080 like it oscillates, you know, because you know, we have 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.200 a very The county that I worked in was very 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.320 rural county, right uh, and it had a very like 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.440 prevalent elderly population, you know, like like a lot of 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.480 elderly people. So you would get people that would call 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.040 in the non emergency line and be like, my chest 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.560 hurts and I think I'm having a stroke, And you'd 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.439 be like, why the fuck aren't you calling nine one one, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.680 you know, and they're like, I didn't want to bother you, 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:56.200 like like right, and it's like Jesus Christ, Edna called 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.320 nine one one the next time you think your husband 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.199 is having a heart attack, you know. And then you 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.440 would get people who are like, there's a there's a 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.560 black suv that's parked at the post office for ten 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:12.800 minutes and it has Massachusetts plates, So this is an emergency, you. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.920 Know, right, those are the ones that call the emergency line. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.720 Yeah yeah, or like someone someone turned around in my driveway. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.440 It's like okay, cool, like what what what do you 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.240 want to happen? You know, it's just like yeah. And 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.840 the thing about it, though, is it like jumps from 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:40.240 really dumb, like just mind numbingly stupid stuff like that, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.840 so like really intense terrible things and like three seconds, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.520 you know, right, you could put someone who was just 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:54.480 being a completely like a dumb ass, you know, and 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.040 then pick up the phone and have like a legitimate, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.959 terrifying emergency, you know. And it's like that whiplash that 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.000 like because when you like watch like nine and one 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.920 Dispatchers on TV and stuff, you know, it's like all 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.880 actions all the time, like falls to the wall emergency, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.520 you know. But it's not really like that because it's 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.679 like half of your time is spent dealing with really 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.559 dumb stuff and the other half is craziness. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.240 Yeah, So I mean, tell me about the craziness. How 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.160 did you deal with that? I mean, you being the 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:33.680 first line of of kind of defense against these kinds 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.880 of things and talking to people who are in like 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.400 shock and crisis, like how do you how do you 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:39.800 do that? 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:47.000 Yeah, so it's like it's tough. I So I worked 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.920 as a nine to one dispasser for two years, and 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.280 I worked with people who had worked for work there 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.319 for like decades plus, you know, and it's I think 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.920 it's a really easy it's a really easy field to 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.240 get burned out from, right, because there are some people 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.920 that kind of treat it just like you follow, you 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.000 follow the you follow the procedure, no matter what you know. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:14.400 So but then there are I tried to not be 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.080 like that, you know. I tried to put myself in 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.360 the shoes of like these are actual people calling who 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.480 are going through like the worst times in their lives 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.480 and they need help, you know. But that also like 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.400 ways on you, so like you have to put like 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.600 some sort of distance between yourself and them, right. So yeah, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.080 I mean like when I I remember when I so, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.360 you know, like you drivers that when you are learning 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.320 to drive and your driver instructor is on has like 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.559 their own brake pedal on the other side, so they 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.440 can like stop you right right, Like, yeah, so when 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.439 you're learning how to be a nine on one dispatcher, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.520 and they're training you on the phones. You have your phone, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.520 and then your trainer has like a phone that they 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.560 are also listening in on, so they can like cut 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.280 your line at any time and take over themselves, you know. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.960 So I remember it was like my first day like 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.679 being on the actual nine to one lines, right, and 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.079 I took like a bullshit call, and then I picked 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.000 up and it was just this woman who was like, 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.000 it's so terrified because their neighbor's house was on fire, right, 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.360 And like I just had a moment where I was like, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.760 holy shit, like this is actually happening somewhere, you know, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.680 and like this woman is actually like terrified that her 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.840 neighbor didn't make it out of his house, you know, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.680 and it just like reconciling, like my response with the 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.600 reality of what was happening. It was just super super weird, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.520 you know. And then I like stumbled through for a 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.440 second and then my trainer took over. But that was 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.440 like the kind of it's like literally trial by fire, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.040 you know. They just like throw you in and you 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.760 got to learn how to how to deal with that, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.320 and eventually it becomes easier because I I think of 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.760 it more like I think of it more like as 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.240 I'm doing my job for for like the people that 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:11.600 are going to respond, you know, so like before ambulance 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.320 rolls up, the ambulance need to know, needs to know 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.000 what's happening. So it's my it was my job to 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.280 like paint the picture for them of like what's going on, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.160 Like do they need the fire Like is this person 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.160 like you know, what does this person need on scene? 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.880 And how do I convey that the ambulance crew or 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.880 the police or the fire department? You know, looking at 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.200 it like that kind of helped because I was taking 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.200 a step back and being like what do I do 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.960 to make sure this person gets the help that they 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.080 need instead of just like, holy fuck, this person is 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.800 going through something fucking crazy? 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.200 You know what was it? 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:48.360 So? 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:53.440 What was it that made your trainer press press the 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.240 brake pedal? You said you stumbled? And what way did 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:56.800 you stumble? 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.840 Because I was like, okay, so the very first thing, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.440 like it's so like it's never the very like if 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.880 you are dealing with a nine one one dispatcher who's 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.640 like been trained at all, the very first thing you 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.440 ask is nine one one what's the address of the emergency? 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.080 It's not nine to one one, what's your emergency? It's 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.280 not like nine one one, what's the emergency? It's nine 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.000 one one? What is the address of your emergency? Like 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.680 you're supposed to say that before like say anything, you know. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.920 So the fact, so I didn't say that the first 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.400 seconds of the call, and like was kind of taken 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.160 aback by this like how freaked out the woman was, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.880 you know, and I couldn't really like interject to ask 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.520 that question. So after me trying to get my shit 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.400 together for like five or ten seconds, and my trainer 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.560 hopped in the call, you know, because I wasn't given 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.960 anywhere so have you. 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.480 So, so that was your very first call where somebody 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.800 was very much distressed, and that kind of threw you off. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was kind of like, yeah, it 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:10.520 was the real moment, you know, because you do my 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.080 training was like a bunch of classroom hours and stuff, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.120 and like being actually like out on the floor when 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.120 the college are being taken is like a completely other 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.000 like called new beast, you know. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:29.040 So then moving forward, after you've talked, you've spoke to 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.119 people in crisis, like over and over again, does it 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.159 just become less shocking to you or do you just 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.200 deal with how to handle it better. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:46.040 Yeah, So it's like it does become less shocking some 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:50.199 of them because there's there's calls that you get on 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:55.879 a pretty regular basis, you know, there are like medical emergencies, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.280 heart attack, strokes, stuff like that. They happen pretty much 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.680 every day, every shift, you know. So it's like those 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:10.640 kind of things start to become less shocking in the beginning, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.000 and like the progression of me like getting okay with it, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.960 Like in the beginning, what really fucking threw me off 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.480 is like listening to people actively like struggle to breathe 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.600 and stuff like during those calls, you know, like when 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.880 you get a person on who's like having a heart 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.879 attack and like physically can't breathe, youd like panic with 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.520 them a little bit, you know, but like after a bit, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.280 kind of look at it like clinically, you know, and 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.439 you're just like, I'm not a doctor. I don't know 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.120 how a doctor would think about it, but I would 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.560 think it'd be kind of the same thing as like 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.680 a medical like a like a medically minded person, right, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.400 you kind of just think, like, Okay, they're having symptoms 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.320 and now I need to talk like through it, you know. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.480 But like there are like. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:58.840 There were so. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.240 Domestic violence happens a lot too, especially during the pandemic. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:10.160 Like there was a lot of really terrible societal things 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.280 that happened during the pandemic, and unfortunately we saw a 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.600 big spike and like violence like that. You know, so 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.800 that never really got easy, Like those are always terrible 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:28.800 things to deal with. But what helps, though is just 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:34.159 thinking about like what do I need to get people 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.000 to respond to this emergency? And what do I need 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.600 to get people there safely, you know, and what do 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.919 I need to help people? You know. So I started 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.400 kind of thinking about it like that and it made 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.959 like the emotions sort of go away. But then there 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.399 would just be calls that like just shake you the 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.199 fuck up, you know, Like there are some calls that 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.679 are just like they wake you up, you know. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.000 Right, You've got people like calling about their parking space 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.520 being blocked, and so you're just like, oh, what even 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.879 is this bullshit job? And then all of a sudden 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.840 you get some real thing and it wakes you up. 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.960 Yeah, and it's like yeah and all like for sure, 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.640 but also though it's a little bit scary to think 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.320 about to get at the end of like a six 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.800 hour shift and be like, I dealt with like someone 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.640 dying of a heart attack. I dealt with like all 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.280 of these things, and you're like, I don't really feel anything, 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:31.800 you know, So. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.359 But then there are some calls that just no matter what, 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.399 no matter how burnout you are, they're fucking terrible. Like 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:45.920 anything to do with kids is fucking awful. Anything would 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.520 like you like anything where people like. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.000 I don't know, like. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:59.240 Die, it's pretty you know. So like yeah, and I 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:04.280 mean another so I and it's also important to mention 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.040 that I worked a night shift, you know, so I 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.160 would go in at like six pm and stay until 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:16.040 eight am, so we would have like three or four 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.520 hours of downtime sometimes like at night, you know, when 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.160 nothing was happening, so you would just be like playing 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.160 Stardy Valley. I would be playing Stardy Valley or whatever 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.280 on my phone and then get a call that was 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.679 just like, what the fuck is happening right now? You know? 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:43.959 So yeah yeah. And another another call that I got 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.720 late at night that was absolutely crazy was a guy 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:57.359 whose best friend shot himself playing Russian roulette. And best 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.560 friend called in and was like I just watched my 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.960 friend like shoot himself in the face. That was pretty 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:10.400 fucking terrible. And that again was during my training. 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.600 So that was during your training. Did they did you? 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.719 Did you take that whole one yourself? Or do they 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.000 have to hit the brakes? 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:16.439 No? 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:22.040 Well, so, so the way it worked this is probably 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.159 like my fourth or fifth night had taken calls, but 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.680 like the guy called in and was just super panicked. 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.880 I got basically like where he was and what happened, 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.760 and then he hung up. So my trainer after that 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.800 was like, okay, take a seat, like I'm gonna deal 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.560 with this now. So she took over after that, but 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:47.960 like I still dealt with like you know, uh, getting 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.840 the ambulances there and getting the police there and stuff. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.600 But that was another like trial by fire moment because 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.919 it was like you could just hear the raw fucking 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:58.600 panic in this guy's voice, you know. 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:00.720 Hmmmm mmm. 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.119 But can I tell you a kind of funny story, now, Yeah, I. 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.280 Would love I would love to hear a funny story. 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:16.640 There are certainly funny stories. So this was like we 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.240 we're we're on the border of another of New Hampshire, right, 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.720 and uh so we get a call from this, uh, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.440 this lady, I own a greenhouse and someone just broke 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.359 in and stole a bunch of my pot. And lee 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.200 leed is legal in Maine, right, So we heard greenhouse 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.480 and pot and thought that this lady probably owns like 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.440 a you know growing you know, like like grew pot. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.240 And we're like okay, So we get a description of 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.240 like the trucks that supposedly like like broke into the 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:56.320 into the greenhouse, right, this lady, sorry, this lady's ladies like, yeah, 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.560 my husband's behind them. He's tailing them, you know, he 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.399 like gave us all the license plates and stuff. So 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.960 we're treating this like like these trucks broke into this out, 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.399 broke into this place, like possible armed robbery, like getting 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:14.920 everyone going like chasing these trucks, right, and the eventually, 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.919 like the cops follow the trucks into New Hampshire. So 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.320 now we're all like, holy shit, it's like a fucking 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:28.360 multi state like right, yeah, yeah, And and then like 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:30.880 the cops are like we got two suck books out 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.720 on a gun point blah blah blah blah blah, you know, 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.040 and then we just don't hear from them for for 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.800 a while, and we're like, Okay, that's kind of normal. 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.320 They're probably doing a bunch of like paperwork and whatever, 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.280 you know, so we kind of forget about it. But 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.360 we're like, yeah, they got the bad guys. And then 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:52.400 like two hours later, this cop calls in and he's like, guys, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.800 like what the fuck. So when the lady said they 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:01.639 stole my pot pot, she was talking about terra cotta 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.720 pots from the greenhouse. This greenhouse wasn't a pot greenhouse. 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.440 It was just like a place where it was a greenhouse, 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.719 like she sold. She sold plants, right, and she and 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.480 the lady who called nine one one forgot that she 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.320 told a bunch of her elderly friends that they could 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:23.000 borrow these pots. So these like three old ladies and 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:27.680 trucks were just loading up terracotta pots into the back 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.080 of their trucks that they were permitted to take, like 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.000 the lady told them she could take them. And they're 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.560 just like going about their like old lady like. 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.480 Lives and all of a sudden getting tailed by the 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.879 police across state lines. 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.400 Getting pulled out at gunpoint. It was kind of awful, 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.840 but it was just like, oh my god. 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:52.359 Wait, well, way they were pulled over at gunpoints? 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.280 Well okay, so my memory might be embellishing this a 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.200 little bit, but they the cops certainly were not nice 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.480 when they took them out of their car, you know, 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.119 so like I can't remember if it was gunpoint or not, 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.880 but there I felt so fucking bad. I'm like these 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:13.960 poor old ladies, you know, like, uh, but that is. 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.480 That's so interesting that where where was this again? This 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:21.840 was in Maine main. Yeah, and weed is legal. That's 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.320 so interesting that you know cops, Well, you used to 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.640 like if your weed was stolen, you can't do shit 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.840 about it. But now you can actually call the cops 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.960 on people for stealing your weed and they will arrest 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.480 them at gunpoints and then figure out that they're just 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:37.439 nice old ladies. 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.080 Yeah, it is kind of funny, like we've made a 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:43.880 lot of progress if you think about it like that. 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.280 Well, now here's what I was, Here's what I wanted 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.320 to Here's what I wanted to ask you, is so 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.320 I know that it's like illegal to like call nine 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.280 on one and fuck with them and stuff. So like 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.480 this lady, for example, who was like, oh oopsie, I 0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.479 forgot I could I lent them the fucking pop. Did 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.959 she like get in trouble? 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:03.440 No? 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.240 Probably not, because to be charged with like misuse of 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.280 nine one one, it has you have to prove that 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.120 you're intentionally fucking with the nine to one one system, 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.080 you know, So like if you make a mistake in 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.679 good faith, then it's not like then it's not like 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.040 you're gonna get in any trouble, you know. It's more 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.560 like if you're intentionally like with the nine one one 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.480 system or like millions because you don't like the response 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.720 that you got and you want a better response or whatever. 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.119 You know, that's when you start to get into trouble. 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.000 But that lady probably didn't get in any trouble. 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.199 Have you ever had somebody call you that got charged 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.479 with misuse of nine on one a couple of times? 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.600 Yeah, So it was like and most of the time, 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:53.840 I'm trying to think of the specific story. 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.119 What it comes down to most of the time is 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:56.640 you get. 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.639 Someone We deal with a lot of people who are 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.159 just like drunk or starf owned or high or whatever, 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.400 you know, and they're in some sort of like distress 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.159 and that's awful, but you know, they don't like the 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.199 response that they got. So they're like I wanted, like 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.440 I wanted this person to be arrested, or I wanted 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.359 this cop to do this thing or this whatever. So 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.520 they keep calling and calling and calling and like expecting 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:26.000 a different response, you know, And that's when people start. 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.480 That's when people start to like misuse and I don't 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:33.119 want from Like my experience is when they're like, you 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.280 didn't arrest this person, like come back and arrest them 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:41.160 right now, like or you know you didn't this person, 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.560 or like I don't know this person's dog is still 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.200 in my yard. Come back right this second, you know. 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:57.080 But then like yeah, yeah, so I. 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.920 At the time this is being recorded, it's April nineteen, 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.600 and then you're having me wonder what it would be 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.680 like to uh, you know, uh uh run the phones 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.640 on four to twenty. I bet you get a lot 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.080 of very interesting calls. 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:18.120 Yeah, Like it's funny because I'm trying to think, like, man, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:25.160 four twenty is is is? I would much rather I 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.120 would much rather not be working on like Saint Patrick's 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.840 day right like four twenty. I feel like it's kind 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.480 of just the thing where people chill, they like they 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.120 smoke and they just fucking like. 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.000 Chill, you know, like right then, ever they get into 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:38.600 a lot of trouble. 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.880 Yeah, Like if you're stone, I feel like you don't 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.240 really want to call nine one one. Like that's every 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.680 time I've been high, I've been like calling nine one 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.880 one unless I'm like tripping my fucking balls off. Has 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.240 not been on my agenda, you know. But like when 0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:57.200 your shit faced, that's when you start to well, that's 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.040 when you start to make some questionable nine that's when 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:01.920 you're more aptic all. 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:02.440 Nine one one. 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:07.040 I feel like like dealing with do uys on like 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.800 New Year's is like crazy, Like, oh. 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.560 I bet there's a ship ton of them. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.560 There are so many. It's like because I did I 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:23.280 worked in this, I worked at uh that rural main county, 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.920 and then I worked for like the highway police uh 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.400 for like a couple of months. Uh but like the 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:35.840 highway police on the like like the Turnpike police on 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.600 those holidays. Just do u I after do you? I 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.280 Like it's fucking crazy. 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.240 Mm hmm yeah. So so what do you do now? 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:49.800 I am studying to be a teacher. 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:52.360 What kind of thing? 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.760 I want to be? A middle or high school English teacher? 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.720 A middle or high school English teacher. I'm really debating 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.280 now what is going to be. I'm I'm excited for 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.560 you to come back and let me know what is 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:11.200 more traumatic for you between being a nine one one 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.760 dispatcher and being a middle school teacher. 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:18.520 Yeah, I think like it's gonna probably be a nine 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:19.560 to one one dispatcher. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:27.800 I know, like I know, no, go ahead, go ahead, no. 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.680 No, no gek I. So it's it's funny because it's 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.160 like a whole different kind of uh like stress, you know, 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.800 like being a teacher. It's a whole different kind of 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.760 like problems that you have to solve, right. 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.480 But you know, you've you've all you've been through, You've 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.960 experienced so much fucked up ship already that I feel 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.600 like your skin is hardened to deal with, you know, 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.080 getting pencils thrown at you. 0:31:55.040 --> 0:32:03.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. It's it's like, you know, it's 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:08.040 kind of like the problems are solvable, you know, like 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.440 like it's not like, oh my god, I have this 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.040 emergent thing. It's like, Okay, let's take a seat and 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.000 talk about what you did and why you fucked up 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.400 and how you're not gonna do this again. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.240 Kind of thing. Right. When I was in middle school, 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.520 I did either I think it was seventh grade or something. 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:31.480 I had a music teacher and he had like he 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:37.040 had like a these keys dangling from his belt, and 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.520 I would like, whenever he would walk by my desk, 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.840 I would like swat at his keys all the time. Yeah, 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.360 And he would tell me to and he would tell 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.000 me to stop, but I was a little shit, so 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.200 I wouldn't, and so I would. I was swatting at 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.360 his keys, and he at one point looked at me 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.200 and he said, if you touch my keys one more time, 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:59.560 I'm gonna punch you in the face. And dude, part 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.800 and like, look that guy, like look, I didn't do it. 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.080 But part of me was like, what's he gonna can't 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.840 punch me in the face, you know? Yeah, And so 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.200 I'm so right, but I did. I didn't. I feel like, 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.800 I feel like, here's the thing. If he had punched 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.400 me in the face, I probably would have deserved it. 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.040 But he I don't think he would have continued to 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:22.000 be a teacher. No, it's true, So don't punch kids 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.560 in the face, is I guess what I'm I don't 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.400 know why I told you that, but. 0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.560 Look, but but it's also like it was a different 0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.680 time back then, you know, like and I like the 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.160 way that teaching has progressed because it's all about like 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.960 positive ways to solve problems and like, you know, but 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.880 also sometimes like the old school teachers that at the 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.280 school are just like, yeah, okay, if you keep doing this, 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.760 like like you know, same same kind of deal, you know, 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.400 And yeah, I think there's like I'm glad we don't 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:55.240 do that anymore. 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:00.960 Me too, me too. But I'm not gonna pretend like 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.240 I don't get why. I mean, look, here's the thing, 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:09.800 is I I being a middle school teacher. It sounds 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:16.040 so hard that, you know, I understand why the you know, 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.040 human brain eventually throws up their hands and goes, I'm 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.920 gonna fucking kick the shit out of this kid right now, 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.880 swatting my keys. Yeah, I mean, oh my god, I 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.960 bet back in like you know, when, I don't know 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:33.680 when when Aristotle was teaching people about philosophy and stuff, 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.840 he probably wanted to, you know, punt those kids into oblivion. 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.560 But you know what, back in those days, just as 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.600 just as there are in this days like today, there 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.239 was probably like rich parents, like rich Roman parents who 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.000 would have like waddled over in their fucking sandals and 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.759 togas over to Aristotle and been like, if you touch 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.480 my kid again, I'm gonna fucking hang you or whatever. 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:57.560 You know, Yeah, that's true. 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:02.000 Like there's been shitty parents and like entitled parents and 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.280 parents that don't actually parent and let their kids fucking 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.680 run wild, like since forever. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:12.520 You know, what got you into doing the nine one 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.359 one dispatching thing? 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:20.080 I was, Yeah, I kind of job hopped for a while. 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.440 I got a degree in journalism, and I like was 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.600 working at a newspaper making like and it was more 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.399 just like I wasn't making enough money, you know, And 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:36.080 I saw that this nine to one dispatching agency was hiring, 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.919 and I was like, this sounds cool and it pays more, 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.719 so like kind of on a whim, I applied and 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.000 got it like I was not expecting to get it 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:51.080 and just kind of like wound up there. And I 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.120 mean like I stayed for two years, and then the 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:59.279 burnout was just in blake insane, like it. 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:00.640 Was, well, you only met, we only were able to 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:01.799 do it for two years. 0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.279 Yeah, and like what that mostly was, Like I think 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.200 I would have got burned out no matter what. But 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.160 I was stuff on night shifts and like acclimating your 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.720 body to like working consistently, like living a night shift 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.719 life is like really rough, you know. And I was 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.399 also I switched to agencies that I was working for, 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.040 and the second and the last one when I got out, 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.480 I was working like tons of forced overtime shifts, so 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.480 like I would get I would work from like eleven 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:38.200 pm to like seven am, but basically any time that 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.480 they needed me to stay, they would like force me 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:47.719 to stay until three pm. So like three times a week, 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.319 I was working from eleven pm to three pm, and 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.959 then I would have an hour drive home and get 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.480 like five hours like four four and a half hours 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.080 of sleep, actually have to come back. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.800 Did you ever have fucked up dreams about the calls? 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:02.160 Yes? 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.680 All, okay, So like you know, like we we have 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.720 like radio codes like this is a nineteen forty seven 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.760 one four seven over on North Boulevard, you know, yeah, 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.359 and I would like recite codes in my sleep, Like 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.840 I would be like I would like wake up and 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.520 I'm like why am I rattling off codes right now? 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:23.880 You know? 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.319 And then like I have three cats, so like my 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:31.840 cats got incorporated into my weird fever like dispatch dreams, 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.960 so I'd be like like, I'd be like, Coda has 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.000 a ninety nine on tenth Avenue and we have to 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.359 spend like the ambulance, and then my other cats would 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.960 like be characters in these dreams and be like, what 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.840 isn't the ambulance there yet? And it was just the best, 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.960 Like my psyche was fucked up that. 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.840 Actually it's that actually sounds a nine to one one 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:59.879 dispatcher ran by cats actually sounds kind of adorable. Yeah, 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.480 it would be very unhelpful, but adorable. 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.200 Yeah, it'd be like, oh, you're having a heart attack 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.600 if you swat if you tried swatting a full glass 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.080 of water down from the cabinet, that might help. 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:12.600 Well. 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:17.440 Uh, it sounds as though, uh uh, middle school teaching 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:18.960 is going to be a little bit easier on your side. 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.360 I mean, look, not that much easier, but slightly easier 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.880 than hearing about death and decay and you know the 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.239 horrors of blocked parking spots all day. 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.839 Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be better for sure. 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.480 All right, let me just did anybody I was one 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:35.960 of the first thing I wanted to ask you with 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.600 you know a half hour ago, is did anyone do 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.640 any prank calls that were intentionally to waste your time 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.279 but that also were undeniably funny? 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:54.880 Let me think, uh no, most people are unoriginal, Like 0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.160 most people are just boring. Like there was nothing where 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.680 I was like, this is actually clever, you know. 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.000 Give me, me, give me one, give me one of 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:01.680 the boring ones. 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:13.480 I literally got the refrigerator running once, okay, and I 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.720 was like the fuck man, I don't. 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:18.120 Know why this is. 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.840 And like, okay, so you know, have you ever accidentally 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:24.960 butt dialed nine one one? 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.160 Like that common thing? 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.759 It's super easy to do, and like very many of 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.160 our calls are like butt dials, right, so it'll be 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.400 like someone calling in on like they don't even realize 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.680 that they call nine one one, and like we're illegally 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.359 obligated to like make sure that there's no emergency no 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.879 matter what. So like we have to go through and 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.279 respond to every single accidental nine on one call, Right, 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:55.880 so I would like call people like my favorite Okay, 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.240 this is my favorite one. So it was like five 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.640 five in the morning, someone called just like standard camming back, right, 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.719 and this guy was clearly asleep. All right, I say, Hi, 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.640 this is nine one one. You dialed our emergency number. 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:17.839 You have an emergency. And he's like, oh what. I'm like, hime, yeah, 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.520 I'm like this nine on one. He's like, oh no, 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.480 I'm fine. And I'm like like, uh, what's your name? 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.719 Speaking from your address? And he's like, you know, I 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.440 don't really feel like doing that right now. Sorry. Then 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.520 he's like hung up. So of course, like I have 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.680 to keep calling back because like I need his information 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.719 and stuff, you know, And like he gradually got more 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.080 awake and like apologized. He's like I didn't know if 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.080 it was a dream or not. 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.040 And I'm like, oh, okay, so that guy, you don't 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.319 charge that guy. That guy you give him the benefit. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.880 Of the day. No, no, no, no no, and okay. Also, 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.120 like a PSA for anyone like listening to this, right, 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.839 is that if you accidentally call nine one one, you 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.719 are not in trouble, Like just answer the phone when 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.720 the nine one one dispatcher calls you back and explain 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.360 that this is not an emergency, right, Because when you don't, 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.040 we have to spend like an hour trying to like 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.759 locate where you are, Like send you text, Like, it's 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.920 so much easier if you either like call in again 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.879 and are like, sorry, I fucked up, you know, then 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.680 try to like actively avoid the situation, you know, like 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.239 there's no trouble that comes from accidentally calling nine to 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:32.560 one one. 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:34.759 Well, that's a shame that you don't. You don't have 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.879 any good prank calls. I know, I know, I don't 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.400 know why I'm I'm I'm inserting various things from my 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.960 life into this conversation, but uh, what my one of 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.840 the funniest things from my childhood that I can remember 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.719 and I don't and looking back on, I don't know 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:55.440 if it's the Actually, no, you don't know. I'll defend 0:41:55.440 --> 0:42:01.200 this is still very funny. My friend once called Red Robin. Yeah, 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.399 we we were doing prank calls. He called a red 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.840 Robin and he was like, Hi, can I get a 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:12.319 table for a thousand? Isn't that good? 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:13.839 Yeah? 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.160 I'm not crazy, right, that's hilarious. 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.399 That's pretty that's pretty funny. That's that's pretty funny. I'm 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.600 just anyway, I was a clever, like clever enough to 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.520 do stuff like that, or I would like try, like 0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:28.720 I remember I tried to do a prank call once, 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.400 but I like got so sweaty and nervous that I 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.279 like just hung up. I couldn't do it when I 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:36.880 was like a teenager. 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.200 Like, man, what's your what's your name again? 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:40.480 Johnny? 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.000 Johnny, Johnny? Be good? John? Well, Johnny? 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:45.080 Are you? 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.759 Thanks for talking to me for so long about nine 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.640 one one. I'm glad that you're transitioning into something. Actually 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.520 I was gonna say, I'm glad you're transitioning into something 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.160 less stressful, but it could be way worse. So I'm 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:01.360 not gonna I'm not gonna hold my breath. But I 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.480 think you'll be okay. Like I said, I think you're 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:06.840 I think if you can handle all the fucked up 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.840 ship that you get as a nominal one operator, you 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.879 know you can handle you know, kids, I don't know, man, 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.600 middle school. You know this is gonna launch us into 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:18.200 a whole other conversation. But I I shudder to think 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.600 what the fuck is going on with middle schoolers these 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.040 days because with all the I'm gonna sound like an idiot, 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:28.319 but all the snap chatting, tiktoking, yeah shit, you know, 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.080 just navigating that universe. But but I think you're gonna 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.560 do a great job, Johnny. I I I believe in you. 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.040 I appreciate it. Thank you very much. 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.320 Is there anything else you want to say? Uh to 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.719 to the people of the computer before you go. 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:46.120 If you ever have to call nine on one, don't 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.760 be a jerk. That's about it. Not that you would, 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.560 but don't be a jerky. 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.080 Thanks for calling Johnny. 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.120 You're welcome, Jack. I love you, man steel it. 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.479 Hey, take care man. Thank you. Here's the thing. If 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.480 you ever want to call some if you're thinking about 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.560 calling nine one one just to yell and cuss them 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.600 out and say horrible things, just call me instead. Well, 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.480 I'll talk to you. I don't care. You can call 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.560 me and cuss me out and say mean things to me. 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:20.200 Take if you are thinking about prank calling nine one one, 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:25.200 just I want you to call me, okay instead on 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:30.919 this Twitch stream and I'll I'll take your abuse. You'll 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.000 take your boot your a boot, I said a boose, 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.799 I'll take That's what abuse is in Canada, abouse. I'll 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:42.600 take your abuse. And so that Johnny doesn't have to 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:49.520 or people like Johnny nine what's a what's G? I 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.080 need a G one one? What what's G? On the 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.400 number scale? All right, I'm done with this thing that 0:44:55.400 --> 0:45:02.879 I'm saying. Thank you, Johnny all from Alex. Hello, Oh 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.359 no way, I really got on you did. What's up? 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:07.000 What's your name? 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:08.560 I'm Alex. 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.520 How are you Alex? I'm Lile, nice to meet show. 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:13.120 What's going on? 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:14.320 Oh? 0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.560 Not much? I'm cleaning my house up, sitting here with 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.319 my cat. I now, I had so many things I 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:21.839 wanted to talk to you about, and I can believe 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:22.200 they got on. 0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.880 Let's call you cleaned your house? I'm I don't. I 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.080 won't shut up about this tour that I'm on. But uh, 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.960 I A large thing fueling me wanted to do this 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.200 tour is and I'm and I say that it sounds 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.680 like I'm joking, but I'm saying this with a disturbing 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:43.000 amount of sincerity. Is it's a it's a big excuse 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.960 to not clean my house and also leave because the 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.200 problem with the problem with continually avoiding cleaning your house 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:50.880 to the point where it gets really gross is that 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.560 you have to Then the consequence of that is that 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.359 you have to live in that house. But I came 0:45:56.400 --> 0:46:00.239 up with a big brain play Alex, a world old 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.680 tour that allows me to make my house clean, dirty, 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.000 and not have to live in it. I have my 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:10.960 cake and eat it too. Okay, tell me that's not genius. 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:12.839 That's a little genius. 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.839 Oh, Alex, you said you had a billion, You said 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:17.160 you had a lot of stuff. You want talking about 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.120 anything and anything jumping in your mind right now? 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.800 Yeah, let me see here. So I don't know. I 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:28.399 think I have to sue my friend. So I don't know. Well, okay, 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.040 so he came over to my house and he like 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.400 he got drunk, I guess a little bit. But he 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.319 like wrestled me in my bathroom and like the sink 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:41.360 cell off like as he's wrestling me, and so water 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.920 goes everywhere in my house, and I like messed up 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.640 my heart with floors. So now I don't know if 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.000 I sue him or I like he said he was 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.440 gonna help me pay for it, and then he like 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.759 ghosted me. So like now I don't know what to do. 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.560 Damn how much? How much? How much are you out? 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.759 Oh? So far? I got the sink prepared, which was 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.640 like a thousand bucks. But then the floors, like the 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:05.120 floor's worked so like he hasn't even inspected that yet. 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:06.040 But I think it's gonna be a. 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.720 Couple of graham mm hm, and your friend just totally 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:10.319 ghosted you. 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.840 Yeah, well, he said he had a like when it happened, 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.200 he said he had a switch. So like, now, I 0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.080 don't know if it's like like why why why would 0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.600 you do that in my house? You know? 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:24.920 So I don't know what's that You said he had 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:25.880 a switch? What is that? 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.000 Man? Yeah? 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.160 I guess he went into like attack mood when we 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.799 were like in the bathroom. So I was like, like, 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.040 that's what That's what confused me. I was like, dang, 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.880 I thought we were friends. So it's like a whole mess. 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.440 So let me get the straight he got so drunk 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.359 that a switch flipped in his head to make him 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.560 wrestle you and break your sink. 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.400 Yeah. I don't even think he was that drunk. I 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.000 just think he's just a little bit violent. 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:56.880 Okay. You know, well, I was going to say if 0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:58.480 you do, if you do decide to sue him, I 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.200 don't think his defense is going to hold up very 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:00.759 well in court. 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:03.960 Yeah. No, I got like like text messages where he 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.640 sent like he was like I'm sorry, Alex, I have 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.000 a switch in every two So I think I got 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.839 a little bit of proof, but then I'm stressed because 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.040 I'm like, what if they don't believe me? You know, 0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.600 there's always a risk. And then like if they don't 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.480 believe me, then it's like wow, does that meet him right? 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.640 And the whole thing, you know, and then like it's 0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.239 kind of curious. I'm like adultish, you know. 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.400 I guess what I'm curious about is so, so he 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.759 owes you three thousand dollars. 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.520 But then I hire deposit. 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:35.880 Well, so you then you need to hire Oh and 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.359 then there's that too, so a lot. So he owes 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.359 your security deposit mm hmm. 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:40.480 Yeah. 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.360 So then but you need to hire a lawyer. And 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:43.560 how much is a fucking lawyer? 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.799 Well? Okay, so I called the lawyer and like I 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.120 call like the Urman people. They get you in touch, 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.520 but they say, like under ten k it's like small claims, 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.839 so it's not even worth keeping a lawyer. So it's 0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:58.359 like literally me talking to someone and explaining the whole thing, 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.480 and then part of me is like do I just 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.319 soak up the cost and like take an l And 0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.040 That's where I'm like, can I just suck it up 0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.520 and just like move on and just like cut him out, 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:09.160 but like I kind of want my money. 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.640 Uh you know, Okay, I'm might tell you I have 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:18.600 a few thoughts. Yeah, that it sounds to me like 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.160 if it's only for three thousand dollars that you're not 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:23.879 gonna able to hire a lawyercause theawy' is probably gonna 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:32.839 cost more than that. So you're and then you're all like, well, fuck, 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.120 now I have to fucking go to small I don't 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.160 know how does small claims work? Again? You like, I 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.440 have to go and be your own lawyer. 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:40.680 Yeah, and you have to like talk to the judge 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.520 and just tell the judge your side, and then he 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.000 tells the judges side and then the judge makes the decisions. 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.520 But you like, when Okay, you talked about sucking it 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.440 up and taking the l is that a and by 0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.759 the way, just sucking it up and taking the L 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.319 I don't there's there's no shame and never do in that. 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.560 I don't think it's a shame in doing that, do 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:05.920 you as part of your inkling to do that? Like 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.880 you you're looking at this process of going to small 0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.440 claims court and being like, oh, this just seems like 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.480 a pain in the ass, I don't even feel like 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:13.799 doing that. 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:15.719 Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it seems like. 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.719 It's like I gotta go down there sell paperwork and 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.960 then explain it and then relive the whole thing all 0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:24.440 over again because it's been like a month. So it's like, 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.840 you know, this is like this is the time I 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.360 should either do something or just like just pay for 0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:30.719 everything myself and move on. 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.040 So that's where I mean, I'm just like, wow, no, 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.399 I mean, all right, it's three thousand bucks. Well, I mean, 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:41.560 look filling out the paperwork and going to the court. 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.160 Do you have a job. What's your job? 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:47.200 Yeah? I do something awful, but I work in banking, 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.600 like retail banking. So if you really want to know, 0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.799 it's like it's like boring though, So like I go so, 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.560 like you know, if you don't like pay your taxes 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.760 or something, so like if you don't pay your taxes 0:50:58.840 --> 0:50:59.840 like the government. 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.520 No I wouldn't. No, I always pay all my taxes 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:01.919 on time. 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.319 But yeah, but like so if you don't pay your 0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.720 taxes or your property taxes, there's like at every bank, 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.279 every big bank at least, there's people that go into 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:14.120 those accounts and take that money prem your account with 0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:16.160 like without you saying yes or no. So I do 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:21.080 that it so like my yeah, I do a terrible thing. 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.360 So I feel really bad about it. So I'm like, 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.080 I don't know how long I can do this for it? 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:29.120 But yeah, stress going on in your life, Alex, Yeah 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:29.560 right now. 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.000 It's so it's usually I live a very quiet like 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.520 just me and my cat. We just show out email. 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.160 And then I started letting people come over and that's 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.200 when it's like, you know. 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.239 You let other people into the break your sink. Yeah, yeah, 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:41.960 they break your. 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.040 Fucking sink, and you know they embarrass me in the 0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.760 whole front, in front of the whole building and my landlord. 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.239 It's the whole thing, all right. 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.040 Like can I ask you, I don't know, I have to 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:53.200 tell you to want to how much do you get 0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:54.799 paid an hour doing that? 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:57.120 Like twenty bucks? 0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.640 All right? And I mean how long do you think 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.839 it would take you to go to small claims court? 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.240 Uh? That's taking This is a good day of PTO. 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.920 Okay, So look like what you make twenty dollars an hour? 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.239 It probably I don't know the math here, but I 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.680 guess what I'm trying to say is like the amount 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.759 of work that it would take you to, you know, 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.279 go to small claims and do the whole thing is 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:25.880 probably It's probably if you're just converting time hours into money, 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.640 it's it's probably worth the money. 0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:33.520 Going he is probably worth doing. I keep hearing the 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.000 same answer over and over again, and it's just like, dang, 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:37.919 I really have to do this. Because then it's also 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.880 like you think this person's your friend, so it's like, dang, 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:42.799 you really put me in a situation where I have 0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.440 to do. Yeah, it's like a whole thing, and like 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.200 what and like the worst oh, sorry, no, yeah, you 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.840 go ahead. But like the worst part is so like 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.160 after all of this happening, I kicked him out and 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:54.680 like that was the first time I ever kicked someone 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.359 out the house. But like he comes back and he's 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.600 like the worst part, And what makes me feel nice 0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.279 is he comes back and he knocks on the door 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.719 and he says, hey, he didn't ask if I was 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:06.280 okay or anything. He's just like can I get my beers? 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.439 So like I'm like sitting here and I'm like, fuck, 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.239 I can't believe I like let this be to my 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.880 house and like all you care about is beer not 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.239 to thousands of dollars in them? And you just did 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.080 you know, It's just kind of like m So now 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.520 I'm like kind of re evaluating my friendships too, and 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.480 it's like, you know, do I want to have friends 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.040 in my life? Because then you have to take those 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.120 risks with those friends, like the whole thing. 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.040 So now you're looking at all your friends and you're like, 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:35.960 which of you motherfuckers would break my yah? Who's gonna 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.000 Who's gonna, you know, rip my refrigerator door off and 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:39.960 throw it at my dog? 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.520 Yeah, like my cat was so he was getting wet. 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:45.680 It was like a whole thing, and I'm like, dang, 0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.279 which one? Like which one is next? Like? So now 0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.240 I'm like do I want to hang out with people anymore? 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.719 And I'm like yeah, because like a part of me does. 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:54.960 But then part of me is like I was doing 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:56.560 fine on my own, you know, you just like keep 0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.400 a pushing, you set your timeline and your goals. Don't know. 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.040 Well, look, Alex, I'm gonna tell you, well, here's the 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:09.560 I mean. Look, like, first of all, I I I 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:15.719 I am a big proponent of the idea that there 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:19.960 ain't ever any shame in taking that L, taking that 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.239 big L, putting it in your mouth and taking a 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:27.479 big old gulp of water, swallowing it and shitting it out. 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.480 You know, ain't no shame in that. So if that's 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.239 what you want to do, if you're like, ah, fuck this, 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:41.040 then you know no shame. But also, mathematically speaking, there's 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.440 probably a financially decent decision to go and get your 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.920 money back on small claims if you feel like you 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:50.239 can prove it. But okay, and then let's go to 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.799 this thing. Right, you had a friend, you trusted this guy, 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.399 You thought this guy was cool, and then he goes 0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:56.040 and wrestles you and breaks your sink, and so now 0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.200 you're like, what the fuck? Which my other friends are 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.760 about to come in my house and destroy my I 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:11.359 think in general, right, you kinda find what you're looking for. 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:16.279 So if you walk around uh with these these this 0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:21.040 new set of goggles that makes you look at everybody 0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:25.520 and that you meet as a as a filthy sink destroyer, 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:30.799 then then I think that that's what you'll find. But 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.839 don't let you know this one experience that you have 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:40.799 with someone completely warp your idea of all of humanity. 0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:43.360 You know that would be that would be really letting 0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.120 a letting holy win. 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.720 Yeah, okay, yeah, we don't want him to win, because 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.560 that's where I'm at, like because like it's like because 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.000 like like taking the l means that he kind of wins. 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:54.600 You know. 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:56.560 No, I don't think that's what that means. I don't 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.359 think that's what that means. I don't think that's what 0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:03.000 that means because I now, look, I don't I think 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.200 I don't think you letting the three thousand bucks roll 0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.640 off your back is letting him win. But I do 0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:14.800 think you now going through life with a deep sense 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:18.719 of mistrust for everyone you meet, is letting him win. 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:22.160 Because that's good because look, three thousand dollars, I mean, yeah, 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.680 it's a lot of money. But we're talking this is 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:30.080 your this is your this is your psyche. We're talking 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.520 about all right, that shit you gotta protect, you know, 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.719 So don't let don't let that get sucked over by 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:38.160 the sink. 0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.879 M Yeah, okay, thank you all. 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.759 For sure? For sure? What kind of sink was? It 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:47.400 was a granite? 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.120 No, it's like ceramid. It's really ugly too, And like 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:53.799 I'm trying to do the mask on like how they 0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:57.080 calculated a thousand dollars because it's the same think you 0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:01.040 just put new legs and new pipes on. 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.279 It's true, you could probably. I mean it sounds like, 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:05.799 you know, that's the most annoying thing, right is when 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.960 like it's a shitty sink and they're still like it's 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.000 three thousand dollars. You could probably go on it. You 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.600 could probably buy your own fucking sink and put I 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:15.080 know I could have. 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.920 Got a nice one from home Depot two hundred books. 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:22.040 Don't lose sleep over there, don't lose sleep over the sink. 0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:24.200 All right, life, you got more going on in your life. 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.840 You know you'll you will be happy again and you 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.720 will be pissed off again. I assure you of those 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:31.040 two things. 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.320 Yeah, okay, that makes sense. There's gonna be worse than this. Okay, 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.400 get ready. 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:40.440 I hope that's I hope that's not the main thing 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:44.920 you took away from this conversation. But Alex, is there 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:46.560 anything else you want to say to me or the 0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.160 people of the computer or Eddie Murphy before we go? 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.840 Yeah, one thing, I listen to your podcast, like for 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.040 the past like nine months, you got me through all 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.200 alast summer it's really awesome. 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:58.040 Thanks. 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.440 Yeah, I really enjoy thank you, and I love them. 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.480 I like the like the two hour ones, like the 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:06.320 ones that are closer to two hours. 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:11.200 Well I started. What happened was I was releasing them 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.160 once a week, and then they were two hours, and 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.880 now I released them twice a week and they're one hour. 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.840 So you know, I kind of split them up a 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.280 little bit. I couldn't for me to release two two 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:29.360 hour podcasts a week. Yeah, a little crazy, but. 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.640 Everything in moderation. Yeah, does this one go on the podcast? 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.520 Yeah, I'll put this on the podcast. I don't know 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:41.640 which one, but it'll it'll make it on there eventually regardless. Well, 0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.360 god damn, thank you, Alex. You have a good one. 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:47.440 And I hope you get your cosmically, I believe you 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:53.680 will get some version of your three thousand dollars back, okay. 0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:58.360 And I hope So there you universe looked out by. 0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.720 Never Get goes on the line, taking your phone calls 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.640 every night, everythink, Get goes to any ride. 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.680 He's teaching you the housing of your life, but he's 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:31.200 not really an expert. H