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Speaker 1: the episode. Call from John Hello, Hey GEK, Hey Johnny,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Not much? GEK? How are you tonight?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling actually a
Speaker 1: lot better than I have in a while. So you've
Speaker 1: caught me on a nice mental day. What's going on? Man?
Speaker 2: You seem super refreshed and happy. It's good to see.
Speaker 1: Man, Is that true? I don't. I didn't. I never
Speaker 1: have any idea how I'm like, And I actually I
Speaker 1: appreciate you saying this to me because I never have
Speaker 1: any idea how I'm coming off. Do I have, Like
Speaker 1: have I been acting depressed?
Speaker 2: No, I don't mean to say that. I think like tonight,
Speaker 2: it just seems like you're super You're super pumped, you know,
Speaker 2: like like you're just like it's not to say your
Speaker 2: baseline is bad, but man, you know, it's just like
Speaker 2: I can tell that you're you're doing good tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, well, good man, I'm glad. I you know. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny since I've been doing this for close to
Speaker 1: three years now, it's not even three years. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: throughout that whole time, you know, sometimes I show up
Speaker 1: to do this and I'm like, really, uh, I feel
Speaker 1: very present and like with everybody and ready and excited.
Speaker 1: And then other times I show up like fucking feeling
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm dead, and and I hate I hate
Speaker 1: that because it feels like it's it almost feel like
Speaker 1: it's out of my control. But I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I've always tried to find the equation, right, Like is
Speaker 1: it should I drink an energy drink beforehand? Should I stop,
Speaker 1: you know, eating weird? Is it just am I just
Speaker 1: getting tired from doing it too much? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I feel part of.
Speaker 2: The you know, like I had nights. I have nights
Speaker 2: like that or like that when I show up to
Speaker 2: work and I have like a really good day, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why can't I fucking have this good day
Speaker 2: all the time? You know, Like why can't I be
Speaker 2: this pumped about doing what I'm doing all the time?
Speaker 2: You know, And it's almost like disappointed, you know, because
Speaker 2: you're like, what the fuck am I doing? Every other time?
Speaker 2: But man, I think that that's just like a human thing,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I've got I've gotten down on
Speaker 1: myself every once in a while because I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, people go to work at fucking Chipotle for
Speaker 1: eight hours scooping like chicken and stuff, and I am
Speaker 1: like feeling bad about, you know, the the two hours
Speaker 1: that I spend, you know, talking to people who are
Speaker 1: excited to come talk. It makes me I get like
Speaker 1: I beat myself up about it, but you know, I've
Speaker 1: learned to not.
Speaker 2: I don't care, Like I don't care if you have
Speaker 2: the happiest job ever. Like, if you're like a fucking
Speaker 2: person who adores dogs and you just get to cuddle
Speaker 2: cute dogs all day, you're gonna have days where you're
Speaker 2: not fucking feeling your job. You know, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: days even if you're doing the coolest thing ever. You're like,
Speaker 2: I would rather be at home playing video games or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, man, So like you're doing, you're doing great,
Speaker 2: and I'm super super pumped to see what you're doing.
Speaker 2: It's really a cool time to be a gex Fand
Speaker 2: because it's.
Speaker 1: Well pretty thanks, yeah, thanks, you know so, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have days where the dogs are nice, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you have days where the dogs try to bite
Speaker 1: your wiener off and you just got to accepted true.
Speaker 1: What is your name? My name is Johnny, Johnny, Johnny
Speaker 1: be good, Johnny Rocket. You ever been to Johnny Rockets?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The one near me closed like five years ago though,
Speaker 2: so I haven't been to one in forever. But they're
Speaker 2: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: What's going what's going on with you, Johnny, What's going
Speaker 1: on in the universe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just kind of chilling. But I called
Speaker 2: tonight because I used to be a nine to one
Speaker 2: one dispatcher and I wasn't sure if, like, I have
Speaker 2: some pretty crazy stories and stuff. So I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: if you had any questions from me, because I know,
Speaker 2: like you know, and the kind of career that people
Speaker 2: like see on TV and shit, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of just a something that people might have questions about,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: A nine one one discusion that sounds very intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yes, it oscillated between being really intense and
Speaker 2: for sitting for like three hours waiting for something to
Speaker 2: happen at like two o'clock in the morning, you know,
Speaker 2: so you would go from like drinking lukewarm coffee lukewarm
Speaker 2: coffee and eating hot pockets. So like someone getting shot
Speaker 2: in the stomach.
Speaker 1: Like I like that somebody getting shot in the stomach
Speaker 1: makes you laugh that fond memory of that phone call.
Speaker 1: I want to Okay, before we listen, I'm sure here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm sure you have of a ton of
Speaker 1: horrific and depressing things that we could get into, which
Speaker 1: I'm down to get into. Okay, I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not shy of things that are horrific and depressing.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, what are tell me? Have
Speaker 1: you how many prank calls have you gotten? Or how
Speaker 1: many people have like called nine one one because you know,
Speaker 1: they missed their bus or spilled coffee on themselves or
Speaker 1: things like that.
Speaker 2: It's quite a few, you know, so like, well, so
Speaker 2: for the actual nine one one line, you get that sometimes,
Speaker 2: especially because I live in a state. I live in Maine,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of like crazy storms and stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, So we'll get people who have called nine
Speaker 2: one one and be like when is my power going
Speaker 2: to come back on after a storm? You know, and
Speaker 2: it's like or fucking nine one one, We don't know
Speaker 2: when your power is going to come back on, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like stuff like that, or like people treating
Speaker 2: nine one one like it's their own personal army, you know,
Speaker 2: like call nine one one to be like my neighbor
Speaker 2: is parked in my parking space and I want you
Speaker 2: to send a cop out to arrest them. You know,
Speaker 2: we got a ton of stuff like that where people
Speaker 2: just like felt like they were entitled to get the
Speaker 2: police called on like minor inconveniences to them, you know,
Speaker 2: which was super super annoying in terms of like prank
Speaker 2: calls though, Yeah, there were some, there, there were some.
Speaker 2: They happened more like on our business line, because we
Speaker 2: had we had a line where people could call in
Speaker 2: for like non emergencies that we had to answer to,
Speaker 2: so like pretty consistently, so pretty consistently, we'd get people
Speaker 2: that would call for something like uh, because we have
Speaker 2: towns in Maine that are named after countries, right, so
Speaker 2: there's like a Mexico Maine, you know, and they would
Speaker 2: call in thinking that they were talking to like the
Speaker 2: Mexico police, like the country of Mexico, and I would
Speaker 2: have to spend like fifteen minutes explaining to them that
Speaker 2: they're calling a town of like one thousand in Maine
Speaker 2: and not like the country of Mexico. You know.
Speaker 1: They were they prank were they they were they calling uh?
Speaker 1: They thought they were prank calling Mexico.
Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't even a prank caller. It was
Speaker 2: actually like people being like I haven't heard from my my,
Speaker 2: my cousin, And they went on a vacation in Mexico
Speaker 2: and I need the police and stuff, you know. So
Speaker 2: it just was like that was super confusing for everyone
Speaker 2: at BOB No that like it's not you're not you're
Speaker 2: calling You're not calling Mexico the country.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the cartel does not have a
Speaker 1: huge presence in Mexico Maine.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. No, not at all. Like I'm
Speaker 2: trying to like pranks, there were some crazy people that
Speaker 2: would just like call in and just be like more
Speaker 2: like there were a lot of people with like grudges, right,
Speaker 2: like they thought that they had been wronged by the
Speaker 2: police before and you know, like probably head but they
Speaker 2: would call in and like try to like mess with
Speaker 2: dispatchers and be like I know where you live and stuff,
Speaker 2: and if you don't, like, if you don't like get
Speaker 2: the officer to apologize to me, I'm gonna come over
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know, like did anyone did anyone target you specifically?
Speaker 1: Did you get anybody who like threatened you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But I got called an idiot like forty five times
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I would be like, yeah, I'd be like sorry, there's
Speaker 2: nothing I can do that year dog, that year dog
Speaker 2: got out and got sick from someone else's trash can,
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, you fucking idiot, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: you fired like blobs, you know, like it's yeah, well, here's.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my question. And this is stupid. But in
Speaker 1: a town of only one thousand people, does the bar
Speaker 1: for what constitutes an emergency lower?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. And it kind of
Speaker 2: like it oscillates, you know, because you know, we have
Speaker 2: a very The county that I worked in was very
Speaker 2: rural county, right uh, and it had a very like
Speaker 2: prevalent elderly population, you know, like like a lot of
Speaker 2: elderly people. So you would get people that would call
Speaker 2: in the non emergency line and be like, my chest
Speaker 2: hurts and I think I'm having a stroke, And you'd
Speaker 2: be like, why the fuck aren't you calling nine one one,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're like, I didn't want to bother you,
Speaker 2: like like right, and it's like Jesus Christ, Edna called
Speaker 2: nine one one the next time you think your husband
Speaker 2: is having a heart attack, you know. And then you
Speaker 2: would get people who are like, there's a there's a
Speaker 2: black suv that's parked at the post office for ten
Speaker 2: minutes and it has Massachusetts plates, So this is an emergency, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, those are the ones that call the emergency line.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or like someone someone turned around in my driveway.
Speaker 2: It's like okay, cool, like what what what do you
Speaker 2: want to happen? You know, it's just like yeah. And
Speaker 2: the thing about it, though, is it like jumps from
Speaker 2: really dumb, like just mind numbingly stupid stuff like that,
Speaker 2: so like really intense terrible things and like three seconds,
Speaker 2: you know, right, you could put someone who was just
Speaker 2: being a completely like a dumb ass, you know, and
Speaker 2: then pick up the phone and have like a legitimate,
Speaker 2: terrifying emergency, you know. And it's like that whiplash that
Speaker 2: like because when you like watch like nine and one
Speaker 2: Dispatchers on TV and stuff, you know, it's like all
Speaker 2: actions all the time, like falls to the wall emergency,
Speaker 2: you know. But it's not really like that because it's
Speaker 2: like half of your time is spent dealing with really
Speaker 2: dumb stuff and the other half is craziness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, tell me about the craziness. How
Speaker 1: did you deal with that? I mean, you being the
Speaker 1: first line of of kind of defense against these kinds
Speaker 1: of things and talking to people who are in like
Speaker 1: shock and crisis, like how do you how do you
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like it's tough. I So I worked
Speaker 2: as a nine to one dispasser for two years, and
Speaker 2: I worked with people who had worked for work there
Speaker 2: for like decades plus, you know, and it's I think
Speaker 2: it's a really easy it's a really easy field to
Speaker 2: get burned out from, right, because there are some people
Speaker 2: that kind of treat it just like you follow, you
Speaker 2: follow the you follow the procedure, no matter what you know.
Speaker 2: So but then there are I tried to not be
Speaker 2: like that, you know. I tried to put myself in
Speaker 2: the shoes of like these are actual people calling who
Speaker 2: are going through like the worst times in their lives
Speaker 2: and they need help, you know. But that also like
Speaker 2: ways on you, so like you have to put like
Speaker 2: some sort of distance between yourself and them, right. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean like when I I remember when I so,
Speaker 2: you know, like you drivers that when you are learning
Speaker 2: to drive and your driver instructor is on has like
Speaker 2: their own brake pedal on the other side, so they
Speaker 2: can like stop you right right, Like, yeah, so when
Speaker 2: you're learning how to be a nine on one dispatcher,
Speaker 2: and they're training you on the phones. You have your phone,
Speaker 2: and then your trainer has like a phone that they
Speaker 2: are also listening in on, so they can like cut
Speaker 2: your line at any time and take over themselves, you know.
Speaker 2: So I remember it was like my first day like
Speaker 2: being on the actual nine to one lines, right, and
Speaker 2: I took like a bullshit call, and then I picked
Speaker 2: up and it was just this woman who was like,
Speaker 2: it's so terrified because their neighbor's house was on fire, right,
Speaker 2: And like I just had a moment where I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, like this is actually happening somewhere, you know,
Speaker 2: and like this woman is actually like terrified that her
Speaker 2: neighbor didn't make it out of his house, you know,
Speaker 2: and it just like reconciling, like my response with the
Speaker 2: reality of what was happening. It was just super super weird,
Speaker 2: you know. And then I like stumbled through for a
Speaker 2: second and then my trainer took over. But that was
Speaker 2: like the kind of it's like literally trial by fire,
Speaker 2: you know. They just like throw you in and you
Speaker 2: got to learn how to how to deal with that,
Speaker 2: and eventually it becomes easier because I I think of
Speaker 2: it more like I think of it more like as
Speaker 2: I'm doing my job for for like the people that
Speaker 2: are going to respond, you know, so like before ambulance
Speaker 2: rolls up, the ambulance need to know, needs to know
Speaker 2: what's happening. So it's my it was my job to
Speaker 2: like paint the picture for them of like what's going on,
Speaker 2: Like do they need the fire Like is this person
Speaker 2: like you know, what does this person need on scene?
Speaker 2: And how do I convey that the ambulance crew or
Speaker 2: the police or the fire department? You know, looking at
Speaker 2: it like that kind of helped because I was taking
Speaker 2: a step back and being like what do I do
Speaker 2: to make sure this person gets the help that they
Speaker 2: need instead of just like, holy fuck, this person is
Speaker 2: going through something fucking crazy?
Speaker 1: You know what was it?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: What was it that made your trainer press press the
Speaker 1: brake pedal? You said you stumbled? And what way did
Speaker 1: you stumble?
Speaker 2: Because I was like, okay, so the very first thing,
Speaker 2: like it's so like it's never the very like if
Speaker 2: you are dealing with a nine one one dispatcher who's
Speaker 2: like been trained at all, the very first thing you
Speaker 2: ask is nine one one what's the address of the emergency?
Speaker 2: It's not nine to one one, what's your emergency? It's
Speaker 2: not like nine one one, what's the emergency? It's nine
Speaker 2: one one? What is the address of your emergency? Like
Speaker 2: you're supposed to say that before like say anything, you know.
Speaker 2: So the fact, so I didn't say that the first
Speaker 2: seconds of the call, and like was kind of taken
Speaker 2: aback by this like how freaked out the woman was,
Speaker 2: you know, and I couldn't really like interject to ask
Speaker 2: that question. So after me trying to get my shit
Speaker 2: together for like five or ten seconds, and my trainer
Speaker 2: hopped in the call, you know, because I wasn't given
Speaker 2: anywhere so have you.
Speaker 1: So, so that was your very first call where somebody
Speaker 1: was very much distressed, and that kind of threw you off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was kind of like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was the real moment, you know, because you do my
Speaker 2: training was like a bunch of classroom hours and stuff,
Speaker 2: and like being actually like out on the floor when
Speaker 2: the college are being taken is like a completely other
Speaker 2: like called new beast, you know.
Speaker 1: So then moving forward, after you've talked, you've spoke to
Speaker 1: people in crisis, like over and over again, does it
Speaker 1: just become less shocking to you or do you just
Speaker 1: deal with how to handle it better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like it does become less shocking some
Speaker 2: of them because there's there's calls that you get on
Speaker 2: a pretty regular basis, you know, there are like medical emergencies,
Speaker 2: heart attack, strokes, stuff like that. They happen pretty much
Speaker 2: every day, every shift, you know. So it's like those
Speaker 2: kind of things start to become less shocking in the beginning,
Speaker 2: and like the progression of me like getting okay with it,
Speaker 2: Like in the beginning, what really fucking threw me off
Speaker 2: is like listening to people actively like struggle to breathe
Speaker 2: and stuff like during those calls, you know, like when
Speaker 2: you get a person on who's like having a heart
Speaker 2: attack and like physically can't breathe, youd like panic with
Speaker 2: them a little bit, you know, but like after a bit,
Speaker 2: kind of look at it like clinically, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're just like, I'm not a doctor. I don't know
Speaker 2: how a doctor would think about it, but I would
Speaker 2: think it'd be kind of the same thing as like
Speaker 2: a medical like a like a medically minded person, right,
Speaker 2: you kind of just think, like, Okay, they're having symptoms
Speaker 2: and now I need to talk like through it, you know.
Speaker 2: But like there are like.
Speaker 1: There were so.
Speaker 2: Domestic violence happens a lot too, especially during the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of really terrible societal things
Speaker 2: that happened during the pandemic, and unfortunately we saw a
Speaker 2: big spike and like violence like that. You know, so
Speaker 2: that never really got easy, Like those are always terrible
Speaker 2: things to deal with. But what helps, though is just
Speaker 2: thinking about like what do I need to get people
Speaker 2: to respond to this emergency? And what do I need
Speaker 2: to get people there safely, you know, and what do
Speaker 2: I need to help people? You know. So I started
Speaker 2: kind of thinking about it like that and it made
Speaker 2: like the emotions sort of go away. But then there
Speaker 2: would just be calls that like just shake you the
Speaker 2: fuck up, you know, Like there are some calls that
Speaker 2: are just like they wake you up, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, You've got people like calling about their parking space
Speaker 1: being blocked, and so you're just like, oh, what even
Speaker 1: is this bullshit job? And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you get some real thing and it wakes you up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like yeah and all like for sure,
Speaker 2: but also though it's a little bit scary to think
Speaker 2: about to get at the end of like a six
Speaker 2: hour shift and be like, I dealt with like someone
Speaker 2: dying of a heart attack. I dealt with like all
Speaker 2: of these things, and you're like, I don't really feel anything,
Speaker 2: you know, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But then there are some calls that just no matter what,
Speaker 2: no matter how burnout you are, they're fucking terrible. Like
Speaker 2: anything to do with kids is fucking awful. Anything would
Speaker 2: like you like anything where people like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: Die, it's pretty you know. So like yeah, and I
Speaker 2: mean another so I and it's also important to mention
Speaker 2: that I worked a night shift, you know, so I
Speaker 2: would go in at like six pm and stay until
Speaker 2: eight am, so we would have like three or four
Speaker 2: hours of downtime sometimes like at night, you know, when
Speaker 2: nothing was happening, so you would just be like playing
Speaker 2: Stardy Valley. I would be playing Stardy Valley or whatever
Speaker 2: on my phone and then get a call that was
Speaker 2: just like, what the fuck is happening right now? You know?
Speaker 2: So yeah yeah. And another another call that I got
Speaker 2: late at night that was absolutely crazy was a guy
Speaker 2: whose best friend shot himself playing Russian roulette. And best
Speaker 2: friend called in and was like I just watched my
Speaker 2: friend like shoot himself in the face. That was pretty
Speaker 2: fucking terrible. And that again was during my training.
Speaker 1: So that was during your training. Did they did you?
Speaker 1: Did you take that whole one yourself? Or do they
Speaker 1: have to hit the brakes?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Well, so, so the way it worked this is probably
Speaker 2: like my fourth or fifth night had taken calls, but
Speaker 2: like the guy called in and was just super panicked.
Speaker 2: I got basically like where he was and what happened,
Speaker 2: and then he hung up. So my trainer after that
Speaker 2: was like, okay, take a seat, like I'm gonna deal
Speaker 2: with this now. So she took over after that, but
Speaker 2: like I still dealt with like you know, uh, getting
Speaker 2: the ambulances there and getting the police there and stuff.
Speaker 2: But that was another like trial by fire moment because
Speaker 2: it was like you could just hear the raw fucking
Speaker 2: panic in this guy's voice, you know.
Speaker 1: Hmmmm mmm.
Speaker 2: But can I tell you a kind of funny story, now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Would love I would love to hear a funny story.
Speaker 2: There are certainly funny stories. So this was like we
Speaker 2: we're we're on the border of another of New Hampshire, right,
Speaker 2: and uh so we get a call from this, uh,
Speaker 2: this lady, I own a greenhouse and someone just broke
Speaker 2: in and stole a bunch of my pot. And lee
Speaker 2: leed is legal in Maine, right, So we heard greenhouse
Speaker 2: and pot and thought that this lady probably owns like
Speaker 2: a you know growing you know, like like grew pot.
Speaker 2: And we're like okay, So we get a description of
Speaker 2: like the trucks that supposedly like like broke into the
Speaker 2: into the greenhouse, right, this lady, sorry, this lady's ladies like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my husband's behind them. He's tailing them, you know, he
Speaker 2: like gave us all the license plates and stuff. So
Speaker 2: we're treating this like like these trucks broke into this out,
Speaker 2: broke into this place, like possible armed robbery, like getting
Speaker 2: everyone going like chasing these trucks, right, and the eventually,
Speaker 2: like the cops follow the trucks into New Hampshire. So
Speaker 2: now we're all like, holy shit, it's like a fucking
Speaker 2: multi state like right, yeah, yeah, And and then like
Speaker 2: the cops are like we got two suck books out
Speaker 2: on a gun point blah blah blah blah blah, you know,
Speaker 2: and then we just don't hear from them for for
Speaker 2: a while, and we're like, Okay, that's kind of normal.
Speaker 2: They're probably doing a bunch of like paperwork and whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, so we kind of forget about it. But
Speaker 2: we're like, yeah, they got the bad guys. And then
Speaker 2: like two hours later, this cop calls in and he's like, guys,
Speaker 2: like what the fuck. So when the lady said they
Speaker 2: stole my pot pot, she was talking about terra cotta
Speaker 2: pots from the greenhouse. This greenhouse wasn't a pot greenhouse.
Speaker 2: It was just like a place where it was a greenhouse,
Speaker 2: like she sold. She sold plants, right, and she and
Speaker 2: the lady who called nine one one forgot that she
Speaker 2: told a bunch of her elderly friends that they could
Speaker 2: borrow these pots. So these like three old ladies and
Speaker 2: trucks were just loading up terracotta pots into the back
Speaker 2: of their trucks that they were permitted to take, like
Speaker 2: the lady told them she could take them. And they're
Speaker 2: just like going about their like old lady like.
Speaker 1: Lives and all of a sudden getting tailed by the
Speaker 1: police across state lines.
Speaker 2: Getting pulled out at gunpoint. It was kind of awful,
Speaker 2: but it was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wait, well, way they were pulled over at gunpoints?
Speaker 2: Well okay, so my memory might be embellishing this a
Speaker 2: little bit, but they the cops certainly were not nice
Speaker 2: when they took them out of their car, you know,
Speaker 2: so like I can't remember if it was gunpoint or not,
Speaker 2: but there I felt so fucking bad. I'm like these
Speaker 2: poor old ladies, you know, like, uh, but that is.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting that where where was this again? This
Speaker 1: was in Maine main. Yeah, and weed is legal. That's
Speaker 1: so interesting that you know cops, Well, you used to
Speaker 1: like if your weed was stolen, you can't do shit
Speaker 1: about it. But now you can actually call the cops
Speaker 1: on people for stealing your weed and they will arrest
Speaker 1: them at gunpoints and then figure out that they're just
Speaker 1: nice old ladies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of funny, like we've made a
Speaker 2: lot of progress if you think about it like that.
Speaker 1: Well, now here's what I was, Here's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to Here's what I wanted to ask you, is so
Speaker 1: I know that it's like illegal to like call nine
Speaker 1: on one and fuck with them and stuff. So like
Speaker 1: this lady, for example, who was like, oh oopsie, I
Speaker 1: forgot I could I lent them the fucking pop. Did
Speaker 1: she like get in trouble?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Probably not, because to be charged with like misuse of
Speaker 2: nine one one, it has you have to prove that
Speaker 2: you're intentionally fucking with the nine to one one system,
Speaker 2: you know, So like if you make a mistake in
Speaker 2: good faith, then it's not like then it's not like
Speaker 2: you're gonna get in any trouble, you know. It's more
Speaker 2: like if you're intentionally like with the nine one one
Speaker 2: system or like millions because you don't like the response
Speaker 2: that you got and you want a better response or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, that's when you start to get into trouble.
Speaker 2: But that lady probably didn't get in any trouble.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had somebody call you that got charged
Speaker 1: with misuse of nine on one a couple of times?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like and most of the time,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the specific story.
Speaker 3: What it comes down to most of the time is
Speaker 3: you get.
Speaker 2: Someone We deal with a lot of people who are
Speaker 2: just like drunk or starf owned or high or whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're in some sort of like distress
Speaker 2: and that's awful, but you know, they don't like the
Speaker 2: response that they got. So they're like I wanted, like
Speaker 2: I wanted this person to be arrested, or I wanted
Speaker 2: this cop to do this thing or this whatever. So
Speaker 2: they keep calling and calling and calling and like expecting
Speaker 2: a different response, you know, And that's when people start.
Speaker 2: That's when people start to like misuse and I don't
Speaker 2: want from Like my experience is when they're like, you
Speaker 2: didn't arrest this person, like come back and arrest them
Speaker 2: right now, like or you know you didn't this person,
Speaker 2: or like I don't know this person's dog is still
Speaker 2: in my yard. Come back right this second, you know.
Speaker 2: But then like yeah, yeah, so I.
Speaker 1: At the time this is being recorded, it's April nineteen,
Speaker 1: and then you're having me wonder what it would be
Speaker 1: like to uh, you know, uh uh run the phones
Speaker 1: on four to twenty. I bet you get a lot
Speaker 1: of very interesting calls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's funny because I'm trying to think, like, man,
Speaker 2: four twenty is is is? I would much rather I
Speaker 2: would much rather not be working on like Saint Patrick's
Speaker 2: day right like four twenty. I feel like it's kind
Speaker 2: of just the thing where people chill, they like they
Speaker 2: smoke and they just fucking like.
Speaker 1: Chill, you know, like right then, ever they get into
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you're stone, I feel like you don't
Speaker 2: really want to call nine one one. Like that's every
Speaker 2: time I've been high, I've been like calling nine one
Speaker 2: one unless I'm like tripping my fucking balls off. Has
Speaker 2: not been on my agenda, you know. But like when
Speaker 2: your shit faced, that's when you start to well, that's
Speaker 2: when you start to make some questionable nine that's when
Speaker 2: you're more aptic all.
Speaker 1: Nine one one.
Speaker 2: I feel like like dealing with do uys on like
Speaker 2: New Year's is like crazy, Like, oh.
Speaker 1: I bet there's a ship ton of them.
Speaker 2: There are so many. It's like because I did I
Speaker 2: worked in this, I worked at uh that rural main county,
Speaker 2: and then I worked for like the highway police uh
Speaker 2: for like a couple of months. Uh but like the
Speaker 2: highway police on the like like the Turnpike police on
Speaker 2: those holidays. Just do u I after do you? I
Speaker 2: Like it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah. So so what do you do now?
Speaker 2: I am studying to be a teacher.
Speaker 1: What kind of thing?
Speaker 2: I want to be? A middle or high school English teacher?
Speaker 1: A middle or high school English teacher. I'm really debating
Speaker 1: now what is going to be. I'm I'm excited for
Speaker 1: you to come back and let me know what is
Speaker 1: more traumatic for you between being a nine one one
Speaker 1: dispatcher and being a middle school teacher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like it's gonna probably be a nine
Speaker 2: to one one dispatcher.
Speaker 1: I know, like I know, no, go ahead, go ahead, no.
Speaker 2: No, no gek I. So it's it's funny because it's
Speaker 2: like a whole different kind of uh like stress, you know,
Speaker 2: like being a teacher. It's a whole different kind of
Speaker 2: like problems that you have to solve, right.
Speaker 4: But you know, you've you've all you've been through, You've
Speaker 4: experienced so much fucked up ship already that I feel
Speaker 4: like your skin is hardened to deal with, you know,
Speaker 4: getting pencils thrown at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. It's it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like the problems are solvable, you know, like
Speaker 2: like it's not like, oh my god, I have this
Speaker 2: emergent thing. It's like, Okay, let's take a seat and
Speaker 2: talk about what you did and why you fucked up
Speaker 2: and how you're not gonna do this again.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. Right. When I was in middle school,
Speaker 1: I did either I think it was seventh grade or something.
Speaker 1: I had a music teacher and he had like he
Speaker 1: had like a these keys dangling from his belt, and
Speaker 1: I would like, whenever he would walk by my desk,
Speaker 1: I would like swat at his keys all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he would tell me to and he would tell
Speaker 1: me to stop, but I was a little shit, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, and so I would. I was swatting at
Speaker 1: his keys, and he at one point looked at me
Speaker 1: and he said, if you touch my keys one more time,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch you in the face. And dude, part
Speaker 1: and like, look that guy, like look, I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: But part of me was like, what's he gonna can't
Speaker 1: punch me in the face, you know? Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I'm so right, but I did. I didn't. I feel like,
Speaker 1: I feel like, here's the thing. If he had punched
Speaker 1: me in the face, I probably would have deserved it.
Speaker 1: But he I don't think he would have continued to
Speaker 1: be a teacher. No, it's true, So don't punch kids
Speaker 1: in the face, is I guess what I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know why I told you that, but.
Speaker 2: Look, but but it's also like it was a different
Speaker 2: time back then, you know, like and I like the
Speaker 2: way that teaching has progressed because it's all about like
Speaker 2: positive ways to solve problems and like, you know, but
Speaker 2: also sometimes like the old school teachers that at the
Speaker 2: school are just like, yeah, okay, if you keep doing this,
Speaker 2: like like you know, same same kind of deal, you know,
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think there's like I'm glad we don't
Speaker 2: do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Me too, me too. But I'm not gonna pretend like
Speaker 1: I don't get why. I mean, look, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: is I I being a middle school teacher. It sounds
Speaker 1: so hard that, you know, I understand why the you know,
Speaker 1: human brain eventually throws up their hands and goes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fucking kick the shit out of this kid right now,
Speaker 1: swatting my keys. Yeah, I mean, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: bet back in like you know, when, I don't know
Speaker 1: when when Aristotle was teaching people about philosophy and stuff,
Speaker 1: he probably wanted to, you know, punt those kids into oblivion.
Speaker 2: But you know what, back in those days, just as
Speaker 2: just as there are in this days like today, there
Speaker 2: was probably like rich parents, like rich Roman parents who
Speaker 2: would have like waddled over in their fucking sandals and
Speaker 2: togas over to Aristotle and been like, if you touch
Speaker 2: my kid again, I'm gonna fucking hang you or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Like there's been shitty parents and like entitled parents and
Speaker 2: parents that don't actually parent and let their kids fucking
Speaker 2: run wild, like since forever.
Speaker 1: You know, what got you into doing the nine one
Speaker 1: one dispatching thing?
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I kind of job hopped for a while.
Speaker 2: I got a degree in journalism, and I like was
Speaker 2: working at a newspaper making like and it was more
Speaker 2: just like I wasn't making enough money, you know, And
Speaker 2: I saw that this nine to one dispatching agency was hiring,
Speaker 2: and I was like, this sounds cool and it pays more,
Speaker 2: so like kind of on a whim, I applied and
Speaker 2: got it like I was not expecting to get it
Speaker 2: and just kind of like wound up there. And I
Speaker 2: mean like I stayed for two years, and then the
Speaker 2: burnout was just in blake insane, like it.
Speaker 1: Was, well, you only met, we only were able to
Speaker 1: do it for two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like what that mostly was, Like I think
Speaker 2: I would have got burned out no matter what. But
Speaker 2: I was stuff on night shifts and like acclimating your
Speaker 2: body to like working consistently, like living a night shift
Speaker 2: life is like really rough, you know. And I was
Speaker 2: also I switched to agencies that I was working for,
Speaker 2: and the second and the last one when I got out,
Speaker 2: I was working like tons of forced overtime shifts, so
Speaker 2: like I would get I would work from like eleven
Speaker 2: pm to like seven am, but basically any time that
Speaker 2: they needed me to stay, they would like force me
Speaker 2: to stay until three pm. So like three times a week,
Speaker 2: I was working from eleven pm to three pm, and
Speaker 2: then I would have an hour drive home and get
Speaker 2: like five hours like four four and a half hours
Speaker 2: of sleep, actually have to come back.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have fucked up dreams about the calls?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: All, okay, So like you know, like we we have
Speaker 2: like radio codes like this is a nineteen forty seven
Speaker 2: one four seven over on North Boulevard, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I would like recite codes in my sleep, Like
Speaker 2: I would be like I would like wake up and
Speaker 2: I'm like why am I rattling off codes right now?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then like I have three cats, so like my
Speaker 2: cats got incorporated into my weird fever like dispatch dreams,
Speaker 2: so I'd be like like, I'd be like, Coda has
Speaker 2: a ninety nine on tenth Avenue and we have to
Speaker 2: spend like the ambulance, and then my other cats would
Speaker 2: like be characters in these dreams and be like, what
Speaker 2: isn't the ambulance there yet? And it was just the best,
Speaker 2: Like my psyche was fucked up that.
Speaker 1: Actually it's that actually sounds a nine to one one
Speaker 1: dispatcher ran by cats actually sounds kind of adorable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be very unhelpful, but adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be like, oh, you're having a heart attack
Speaker 2: if you swat if you tried swatting a full glass
Speaker 2: of water down from the cabinet, that might help.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Uh, it sounds as though, uh uh, middle school teaching
Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit easier on your side.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, not that much easier, but slightly easier
Speaker 1: than hearing about death and decay and you know the
Speaker 1: horrors of blocked parking spots all day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be better for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just did anybody I was one
Speaker 1: of the first thing I wanted to ask you with
Speaker 1: you know a half hour ago, is did anyone do
Speaker 1: any prank calls that were intentionally to waste your time
Speaker 1: but that also were undeniably funny?
Speaker 2: Let me think, uh no, most people are unoriginal, Like
Speaker 2: most people are just boring. Like there was nothing where
Speaker 2: I was like, this is actually clever, you know.
Speaker 1: Give me, me, give me one, give me one of
Speaker 1: the boring ones.
Speaker 2: I literally got the refrigerator running once, okay, and I
Speaker 2: was like the fuck man, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know why this is.
Speaker 2: And like, okay, so you know, have you ever accidentally
Speaker 2: butt dialed nine one one?
Speaker 1: Like that common thing?
Speaker 2: It's super easy to do, and like very many of
Speaker 2: our calls are like butt dials, right, so it'll be
Speaker 2: like someone calling in on like they don't even realize
Speaker 2: that they call nine one one, and like we're illegally
Speaker 2: obligated to like make sure that there's no emergency no
Speaker 2: matter what. So like we have to go through and
Speaker 2: respond to every single accidental nine on one call, Right,
Speaker 2: so I would like call people like my favorite Okay,
Speaker 2: this is my favorite one. So it was like five
Speaker 2: five in the morning, someone called just like standard camming back, right,
Speaker 2: and this guy was clearly asleep. All right, I say, Hi,
Speaker 2: this is nine one one. You dialed our emergency number.
Speaker 2: You have an emergency. And he's like, oh what. I'm like, hime, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like this nine on one. He's like, oh no,
Speaker 2: I'm fine. And I'm like like, uh, what's your name?
Speaker 2: Speaking from your address? And he's like, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really feel like doing that right now. Sorry. Then
Speaker 2: he's like hung up. So of course, like I have
Speaker 2: to keep calling back because like I need his information
Speaker 2: and stuff, you know, And like he gradually got more
Speaker 2: awake and like apologized. He's like I didn't know if
Speaker 2: it was a dream or not.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, so that guy, you don't
Speaker 1: charge that guy. That guy you give him the benefit.
Speaker 2: Of the day. No, no, no, no no, and okay. Also,
Speaker 2: like a PSA for anyone like listening to this, right,
Speaker 2: is that if you accidentally call nine one one, you
Speaker 2: are not in trouble, Like just answer the phone when
Speaker 2: the nine one one dispatcher calls you back and explain
Speaker 2: that this is not an emergency, right, Because when you don't,
Speaker 2: we have to spend like an hour trying to like
Speaker 2: locate where you are, Like send you text, Like, it's
Speaker 2: so much easier if you either like call in again
Speaker 2: and are like, sorry, I fucked up, you know, then
Speaker 2: try to like actively avoid the situation, you know, like
Speaker 2: there's no trouble that comes from accidentally calling nine to
Speaker 2: one one.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a shame that you don't. You don't have
Speaker 1: any good prank calls. I know, I know, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm I'm I'm inserting various things from my
Speaker 1: life into this conversation, but uh, what my one of
Speaker 1: the funniest things from my childhood that I can remember
Speaker 1: and I don't and looking back on, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the Actually, no, you don't know. I'll defend
Speaker 1: this is still very funny. My friend once called Red Robin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we were doing prank calls. He called a red
Speaker 1: Robin and he was like, Hi, can I get a
Speaker 1: table for a thousand? Isn't that good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy, right, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's pretty that's pretty funny. That's that's pretty funny. I'm
Speaker 2: just anyway, I was a clever, like clever enough to
Speaker 2: do stuff like that, or I would like try, like
Speaker 2: I remember I tried to do a prank call once,
Speaker 2: but I like got so sweaty and nervous that I
Speaker 2: like just hung up. I couldn't do it when I
Speaker 2: was like a teenager.
Speaker 1: Like, man, what's your what's your name again?
Speaker 2: Johnny?
Speaker 1: Johnny, Johnny? Be good? John? Well, Johnny?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to me for so long about nine
Speaker 1: one one. I'm glad that you're transitioning into something. Actually
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm glad you're transitioning into something
Speaker 1: less stressful, but it could be way worse. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna hold my breath. But I
Speaker 1: think you'll be okay. Like I said, I think you're
Speaker 1: I think if you can handle all the fucked up
Speaker 1: ship that you get as a nominal one operator, you
Speaker 1: know you can handle you know, kids, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: middle school. You know this is gonna launch us into
Speaker 1: a whole other conversation. But I I shudder to think
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on with middle schoolers these
Speaker 1: days because with all the I'm gonna sound like an idiot,
Speaker 1: but all the snap chatting, tiktoking, yeah shit, you know,
Speaker 1: just navigating that universe. But but I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: do a great job, Johnny. I I I believe in you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say? Uh to
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before you go.
Speaker 2: If you ever have to call nine on one, don't
Speaker 2: be a jerk. That's about it. Not that you would,
Speaker 2: but don't be a jerky.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Johnny.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, Jack. I love you, man steel it.
Speaker 1: Hey, take care man. Thank you. Here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: you ever want to call some if you're thinking about
Speaker 1: calling nine one one just to yell and cuss them
Speaker 1: out and say horrible things, just call me instead. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. I don't care. You can call
Speaker 1: me and cuss me out and say mean things to me.
Speaker 1: Take if you are thinking about prank calling nine one one,
Speaker 1: just I want you to call me, okay instead on
Speaker 1: this Twitch stream and I'll I'll take your abuse. You'll
Speaker 1: take your boot your a boot, I said a boose,
Speaker 1: I'll take That's what abuse is in Canada, abouse. I'll
Speaker 1: take your abuse. And so that Johnny doesn't have to
Speaker 1: or people like Johnny nine what's a what's G? I
Speaker 1: need a G one one? What what's G? On the
Speaker 1: number scale? All right, I'm done with this thing that
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Thank you, Johnny all from Alex. Hello, Oh
Speaker 1: no way, I really got on you did. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 3: I'm Alex.
Speaker 1: How are you Alex? I'm Lile, nice to meet show.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Not much? I'm cleaning my house up, sitting here with
Speaker 3: my cat. I now, I had so many things I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to you about, and I can believe
Speaker 3: they got on.
Speaker 1: Let's call you cleaned your house? I'm I don't. I
Speaker 1: won't shut up about this tour that I'm on. But uh,
Speaker 1: I A large thing fueling me wanted to do this
Speaker 1: tour is and I'm and I say that it sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm joking, but I'm saying this with a disturbing
Speaker 1: amount of sincerity. Is it's a it's a big excuse
Speaker 1: to not clean my house and also leave because the
Speaker 1: problem with the problem with continually avoiding cleaning your house
Speaker 1: to the point where it gets really gross is that
Speaker 1: you have to Then the consequence of that is that
Speaker 1: you have to live in that house. But I came
Speaker 1: up with a big brain play Alex, a world old
Speaker 1: tour that allows me to make my house clean, dirty,
Speaker 1: and not have to live in it. I have my
Speaker 1: cake and eat it too. Okay, tell me that's not genius.
Speaker 3: That's a little genius.
Speaker 1: Oh, Alex, you said you had a billion, You said
Speaker 1: you had a lot of stuff. You want talking about
Speaker 1: anything and anything jumping in your mind right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me see here. So I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think I have to sue my friend. So I don't know. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: so he came over to my house and he like
Speaker 3: he got drunk, I guess a little bit. But he
Speaker 3: like wrestled me in my bathroom and like the sink
Speaker 3: cell off like as he's wrestling me, and so water
Speaker 3: goes everywhere in my house, and I like messed up
Speaker 3: my heart with floors. So now I don't know if
Speaker 3: I sue him or I like he said he was
Speaker 3: gonna help me pay for it, and then he like
Speaker 3: ghosted me. So like now I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Damn how much? How much? How much are you out?
Speaker 3: Oh? So far? I got the sink prepared, which was
Speaker 3: like a thousand bucks. But then the floors, like the
Speaker 3: floor's worked so like he hasn't even inspected that yet.
Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna be a.
Speaker 1: Couple of graham mm hm, and your friend just totally
Speaker 1: ghosted you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he said he had a like when it happened,
Speaker 3: he said he had a switch. So like, now, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's like like why why why would
Speaker 3: you do that in my house? You know?
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's that You said he had
Speaker 1: a switch? What is that?
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess he went into like attack mood when we
Speaker 3: were like in the bathroom. So I was like, like,
Speaker 3: that's what That's what confused me. I was like, dang,
Speaker 3: I thought we were friends. So it's like a whole mess.
Speaker 1: So let me get the straight he got so drunk
Speaker 1: that a switch flipped in his head to make him
Speaker 1: wrestle you and break your sink.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even think he was that drunk. I
Speaker 3: just think he's just a little bit violent.
Speaker 1: Okay. You know, well, I was going to say if
Speaker 1: you do, if you do decide to sue him, I
Speaker 1: don't think his defense is going to hold up very
Speaker 1: well in court.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I got like like text messages where he
Speaker 3: sent like he was like I'm sorry, Alex, I have
Speaker 3: a switch in every two So I think I got
Speaker 3: a little bit of proof, but then I'm stressed because
Speaker 3: I'm like, what if they don't believe me? You know,
Speaker 3: there's always a risk. And then like if they don't
Speaker 3: believe me, then it's like wow, does that meet him right?
Speaker 3: And the whole thing, you know, and then like it's
Speaker 3: kind of curious. I'm like adultish, you know.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm curious about is so, so he
Speaker 1: owes you three thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: But then I hire deposit.
Speaker 1: Well, so you then you need to hire Oh and
Speaker 1: then there's that too, so a lot. So he owes
Speaker 1: your security deposit mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then but you need to hire a lawyer. And
Speaker 1: how much is a fucking lawyer?
Speaker 3: Well? Okay, so I called the lawyer and like I
Speaker 3: call like the Urman people. They get you in touch,
Speaker 3: but they say, like under ten k it's like small claims,
Speaker 3: so it's not even worth keeping a lawyer. So it's
Speaker 3: like literally me talking to someone and explaining the whole thing,
Speaker 3: and then part of me is like do I just
Speaker 3: soak up the cost and like take an l And
Speaker 3: That's where I'm like, can I just suck it up
Speaker 3: and just like move on and just like cut him out,
Speaker 3: but like I kind of want my money.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Okay, I'm might tell you I have
Speaker 1: a few thoughts. Yeah, that it sounds to me like
Speaker 1: if it's only for three thousand dollars that you're not
Speaker 1: gonna able to hire a lawyercause theawy' is probably gonna
Speaker 1: cost more than that. So you're and then you're all like, well, fuck,
Speaker 1: now I have to fucking go to small I don't
Speaker 1: know how does small claims work? Again? You like, I
Speaker 1: have to go and be your own lawyer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to like talk to the judge
Speaker 3: and just tell the judge your side, and then he
Speaker 3: tells the judges side and then the judge makes the decisions.
Speaker 1: But you like, when Okay, you talked about sucking it
Speaker 1: up and taking the l is that a and by
Speaker 1: the way, just sucking it up and taking the L
Speaker 1: I don't there's there's no shame and never do in that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a shame in doing that, do
Speaker 1: you as part of your inkling to do that? Like
Speaker 1: you you're looking at this process of going to small
Speaker 1: claims court and being like, oh, this just seems like
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass, I don't even feel like
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it seems like.
Speaker 3: It's like I gotta go down there sell paperwork and
Speaker 3: then explain it and then relive the whole thing all
Speaker 3: over again because it's been like a month. So it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is like this is the time I
Speaker 3: should either do something or just like just pay for
Speaker 3: everything myself and move on.
Speaker 1: So that's where I mean, I'm just like, wow, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, it's three thousand bucks. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: look filling out the paperwork and going to the court.
Speaker 1: Do you have a job. What's your job?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do something awful, but I work in banking,
Speaker 3: like retail banking. So if you really want to know,
Speaker 3: it's like it's like boring though, So like I go so,
Speaker 3: like you know, if you don't like pay your taxes
Speaker 3: or something, so like if you don't pay your taxes
Speaker 3: like the government.
Speaker 1: No I wouldn't. No, I always pay all my taxes
Speaker 1: on time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like so if you don't pay your
Speaker 3: taxes or your property taxes, there's like at every bank,
Speaker 3: every big bank at least, there's people that go into
Speaker 3: those accounts and take that money prem your account with
Speaker 3: like without you saying yes or no. So I do
Speaker 3: that it so like my yeah, I do a terrible thing.
Speaker 3: So I feel really bad about it. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know how long I can do this for it?
Speaker 1: But yeah, stress going on in your life, Alex, Yeah
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: It's so it's usually I live a very quiet like
Speaker 3: just me and my cat. We just show out email.
Speaker 3: And then I started letting people come over and that's
Speaker 3: when it's like, you know.
Speaker 1: You let other people into the break your sink. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they break your.
Speaker 3: Fucking sink, and you know they embarrass me in the
Speaker 3: whole front, in front of the whole building and my landlord.
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing, all right.
Speaker 1: Like can I ask you, I don't know, I have to
Speaker 1: tell you to want to how much do you get
Speaker 1: paid an hour doing that?
Speaker 3: Like twenty bucks?
Speaker 1: All right? And I mean how long do you think
Speaker 1: it would take you to go to small claims court?
Speaker 3: Uh? That's taking This is a good day of PTO.
Speaker 1: Okay, So look like what you make twenty dollars an hour?
Speaker 1: It probably I don't know the math here, but I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to say is like the amount
Speaker 1: of work that it would take you to, you know,
Speaker 1: go to small claims and do the whole thing is
Speaker 1: probably It's probably if you're just converting time hours into money,
Speaker 1: it's it's probably worth the money.
Speaker 3: Going he is probably worth doing. I keep hearing the
Speaker 3: same answer over and over again, and it's just like, dang,
Speaker 3: I really have to do this. Because then it's also
Speaker 3: like you think this person's your friend, so it's like, dang,
Speaker 3: you really put me in a situation where I have
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, it's like a whole thing, and like
Speaker 3: what and like the worst oh, sorry, no, yeah, you
Speaker 3: go ahead. But like the worst part is so like
Speaker 3: after all of this happening, I kicked him out and
Speaker 3: like that was the first time I ever kicked someone
Speaker 3: out the house. But like he comes back and he's
Speaker 3: like the worst part, And what makes me feel nice
Speaker 3: is he comes back and he knocks on the door
Speaker 3: and he says, hey, he didn't ask if I was
Speaker 3: okay or anything. He's just like can I get my beers?
Speaker 3: So like I'm like sitting here and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: I can't believe I like let this be to my
Speaker 3: house and like all you care about is beer not
Speaker 3: to thousands of dollars in them? And you just did
Speaker 3: you know, It's just kind of like m So now
Speaker 3: I'm like kind of re evaluating my friendships too, and
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, do I want to have friends
Speaker 3: in my life? Because then you have to take those
Speaker 3: risks with those friends, like the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So now you're looking at all your friends and you're like,
Speaker 1: which of you motherfuckers would break my yah? Who's gonna
Speaker 1: Who's gonna, you know, rip my refrigerator door off and
Speaker 1: throw it at my dog?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my cat was so he was getting wet.
Speaker 3: It was like a whole thing, and I'm like, dang,
Speaker 3: which one? Like which one is next? Like? So now
Speaker 3: I'm like do I want to hang out with people anymore?
Speaker 3: And I'm like yeah, because like a part of me does.
Speaker 3: But then part of me is like I was doing
Speaker 3: fine on my own, you know, you just like keep
Speaker 3: a pushing, you set your timeline and your goals. Don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, look, Alex, I'm gonna tell you, well, here's the
Speaker 1: I mean. Look, like, first of all, I I I
Speaker 1: I am a big proponent of the idea that there
Speaker 1: ain't ever any shame in taking that L, taking that
Speaker 1: big L, putting it in your mouth and taking a
Speaker 1: big old gulp of water, swallowing it and shitting it out.
Speaker 1: You know, ain't no shame in that. So if that's
Speaker 1: what you want to do, if you're like, ah, fuck this,
Speaker 1: then you know no shame. But also, mathematically speaking, there's
Speaker 1: probably a financially decent decision to go and get your
Speaker 1: money back on small claims if you feel like you
Speaker 1: can prove it. But okay, and then let's go to
Speaker 1: this thing. Right, you had a friend, you trusted this guy,
Speaker 1: You thought this guy was cool, and then he goes
Speaker 1: and wrestles you and breaks your sink, and so now
Speaker 1: you're like, what the fuck? Which my other friends are
Speaker 1: about to come in my house and destroy my I
Speaker 1: think in general, right, you kinda find what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: So if you walk around uh with these these this
Speaker 1: new set of goggles that makes you look at everybody
Speaker 1: and that you meet as a as a filthy sink destroyer,
Speaker 1: then then I think that that's what you'll find. But
Speaker 1: don't let you know this one experience that you have
Speaker 1: with someone completely warp your idea of all of humanity.
Speaker 1: You know that would be that would be really letting
Speaker 1: a letting holy win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, we don't want him to win, because
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at, like because like it's like because
Speaker 3: like like taking the l means that he kind of wins.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's what that means. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's what that means. I don't think that's what
Speaker 1: that means because I now, look, I don't I think
Speaker 1: I don't think you letting the three thousand bucks roll
Speaker 1: off your back is letting him win. But I do
Speaker 1: think you now going through life with a deep sense
Speaker 1: of mistrust for everyone you meet, is letting him win.
Speaker 1: Because that's good because look, three thousand dollars, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. But we're talking this is
Speaker 1: your this is your this is your psyche. We're talking
Speaker 1: about all right, that shit you gotta protect, you know,
Speaker 1: So don't let don't let that get sucked over by
Speaker 1: the sink.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, okay, thank you all.
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure? What kind of sink was? It
Speaker 1: was a granite?
Speaker 3: No, it's like ceramid. It's really ugly too, And like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do the mask on like how they
Speaker 3: calculated a thousand dollars because it's the same think you
Speaker 3: just put new legs and new pipes on.
Speaker 1: It's true, you could probably. I mean it sounds like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the most annoying thing, right is when
Speaker 1: like it's a shitty sink and they're still like it's
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars. You could probably go on it. You
Speaker 1: could probably buy your own fucking sink and put I
Speaker 1: know I could have.
Speaker 3: Got a nice one from home Depot two hundred books.
Speaker 1: Don't lose sleep over there, don't lose sleep over the sink.
Speaker 1: All right, life, you got more going on in your life.
Speaker 1: You know you'll you will be happy again and you
Speaker 1: will be pissed off again. I assure you of those
Speaker 1: two things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. There's gonna be worse than this. Okay,
Speaker 3: get ready.
Speaker 1: I hope that's I hope that's not the main thing
Speaker 1: you took away from this conversation. But Alex, is there
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to me or the
Speaker 1: people of the computer or Eddie Murphy before we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing, I listen to your podcast, like for
Speaker 3: the past like nine months, you got me through all
Speaker 3: alast summer it's really awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really enjoy thank you, and I love them.
Speaker 3: I like the like the two hour ones, like the
Speaker 3: ones that are closer to two hours.
Speaker 1: Well I started. What happened was I was releasing them
Speaker 1: once a week, and then they were two hours, and
Speaker 1: now I released them twice a week and they're one hour.
Speaker 1: So you know, I kind of split them up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I couldn't for me to release two two
Speaker 1: hour podcasts a week. Yeah, a little crazy, but.
Speaker 3: Everything in moderation. Yeah, does this one go on the podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put this on the podcast. I don't know
Speaker 1: which one, but it'll it'll make it on there eventually regardless. Well,
Speaker 1: god damn, thank you, Alex. You have a good one.
Speaker 1: And I hope you get your cosmically, I believe you
Speaker 1: will get some version of your three thousand dollars back, okay.
Speaker 3: And I hope So there you universe looked out by.
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