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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sinners Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses, Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you have that little ass cup.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, because that's how these are supposed to be consumed.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, in that little cup.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't pour big glasses of Cuban coffee. They

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<v Speaker 3>come like at the restaurant. They give you this little

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<v Speaker 3>styrofoam thing, and they give you a stack of even

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<v Speaker 3>smaller plastic cups, like the size of big thimbles, and

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<v Speaker 3>people pour it.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the thimble from the other.

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<v Speaker 3>They go from smaller, the smaller to smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>But why does it matter the size of the actual

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<v Speaker 1>drinking you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>The cup?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, probably because you aren't supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>drink the whole thing at once.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh wow, what and what what's that you're drinking? Again?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a This a Cuban coffee. They call him

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<v Speaker 3>a colada down here everywhere else to call him Cuban coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I just almost let the internet pissed me off

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<v Speaker 1>as some real life homies.

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<v Speaker 2>What man? All that it almost got me?

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, all of this stuff happened with obviously

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<v Speaker 1>welded and dragon shit, m so.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear something about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the live streams we did, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Jake Cole, right, and I was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't like how he reframed what happened during

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<v Speaker 1>that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what could describe it as very Palestinian?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even know if it's why would be Palestinian?

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<v Speaker 2>Help me?

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<v Speaker 4>Because he lost the attack and it ran out, say

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted to cease fire before they shot back, But.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not fair the Palestinians then launching attack, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that specifically be that group of people that launched

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<v Speaker 1>the attack?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that group of people represent the.

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<v Speaker 4>People the Hamas outfit both launched the attack and advocated

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<v Speaker 4>for a ceasefire, like not simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't think we got to be more responsible

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure we separate Hamas from the Palestinian people

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<v Speaker 1>because aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>They like more of a collective group of people.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like ninety percent supportive of it and they don't

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<v Speaker 4>push back against it.

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<v Speaker 1>But how could they push back against it if they

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<v Speaker 1>can't push back even against what's going on in Israel?

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<v Speaker 3>Israel is a very powerful military, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So even Palestinians, if they can't push back against.

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine, I mean Israel for all of the stuff happening,

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<v Speaker 1>how could they push back on Hamas to a degree?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Hamas is small, they're low, cool, they're that would

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<v Speaker 3>be a much easier thing to topple.

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<v Speaker 4>They afford them carte blanche to use all their homes

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<v Speaker 4>and businesses as.

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<v Speaker 2>That's irresponsible, Pete. That's that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>People all the time. People do that all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and they steal all their food, they steal all their money,

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<v Speaker 3>been robbing them blind for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>But just because maybe let's say that they may get

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<v Speaker 1>bullied or punked by anybody, don't mean that they necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>are in alignment with Hamas or Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Hamas could be made up of Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 4>They're a polling out. Let's say they have like eighty

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<v Speaker 4>nine percent support of Mohammas.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a pole, Pete. There's like the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 3>What's okay, Well, what evidential reality is there to the contrary?

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>But that you can't allow narrative to shift how humans

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<v Speaker 1>feel because because just listen, Pete, you can't, like Palestinian

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<v Speaker 1>people have a reputation at that point in that place

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<v Speaker 1>to not really have a way in a fight with

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else. They don't really fight. They couldn't even fight

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<v Speaker 1>Israel from taking over the country, let alone fight Harmas,

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<v Speaker 1>who you know is willing.

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<v Speaker 3>To use real weapons to Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not all Palestinian, but it is some Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 1>But and it's loose to say that that's a representation

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<v Speaker 1>of that complete place. Like I get the concept, but

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree, you can't make it like this is

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<v Speaker 1>Israel versus Palestine. It's not because other than that, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying Palestinian people are misleading other human beings by

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<v Speaker 1>complaining saying this is not our agenda, because it's Palatina

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<v Speaker 1>people coming out saying that this is not their agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a minority of Palestinian people, No, that's the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see most of them coming up fighting a

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<v Speaker 1>war with Harmas because Hamas wouldn't be small if that

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<v Speaker 1>was the case, mans would be huge.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because Palastin's small.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even if Palestine is small, there's still the

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<v Speaker 1>number of Hamas would be the Hama's number would be bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be more if it was like that was

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<v Speaker 1>their military or the infantry. And it's really gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>loose when you phrased that, like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not the military. That's not the military of

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a group of it's a it's a military branch

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<v Speaker 4>of an elected body of an autonomous state that was

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<v Speaker 4>given political autonomy twenty five years ago. They elected them, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes they voted and

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<v Speaker 4>then elected them into office.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah but you said twenty five years ago versus what

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<v Speaker 2>it is today.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been going on since that time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it has not, big Gordo, since that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete, you can't make so you're saying there's a so

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<v Speaker 1>you're so you really think fucking Israel is fighting Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you think is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Define Palestine Palestine's fictitious concept concept.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a fictitious concept fucking hundred years ago. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 4>They've never been their own country in two thousand years,

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<v Speaker 4>they've never been their own place.

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<v Speaker 2>So what were they before? They were just a.

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<v Speaker 3>Tribe they're like the courage before Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Before before European came and colonized and said this is

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<v Speaker 1>what a country was.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it before that?

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<v Speaker 4>They were Egypt. They were it wasn't Egypt, Yes it was. No, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it absolutely was.

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<v Speaker 2>So Palestine on the map has never been It's always

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<v Speaker 2>has been Egypt. So they took it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was the.

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<v Speaker 3>King of the Jews. They're evils, right, So let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me get this right. So you're saying they took Egypt

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<v Speaker 2>from Egyptians and made it Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the British, with the British geopolitical arm and leverage

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<v Speaker 4>via the Suez Canal.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was negotiated consumer however the hell they

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<v Speaker 3>did that. But yes, that was me you know how.

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<v Speaker 4>From Turkey and or not. I'm sorry, Jordan and Palestine

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<v Speaker 4>was part of Egypt. It was never its own autonomous country.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop stop again when you said it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you saying that they took Egypt from Egyptians and

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to Israel, Like, I get the colonization idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what the rest of the world recognizes as a country.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a very white thing to do, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, because that's how everything is fractured, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to establish that right, just like this country or

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<v Speaker 1>any other country.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>The concept of European thoughts saying we decide what the

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<v Speaker 1>country was not versus when you know, what's obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the land of people. Right, So you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>they took it from Egypt and gave it to and

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<v Speaker 1>they gave it to Israel was happy to see it

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<v Speaker 1>go because it wasn't fucking Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 3>There was when it strategically benefited them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, give talking about the European perspective of how

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<v Speaker 1>people see land and ownership control touchdown there. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you Europe is a part of why it became Israel

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. It was Israel before the Caliphate

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<v Speaker 1>drove them out, regardless of whatever it was. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot deny that that place was inhabited by this

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<v Speaker 1>specific tribe and it was looked at as.

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<v Speaker 2>The land of this tribe. What are you'all talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>P Irresponsibly, Israel is fighting Palestine versus Israel is fighting

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<v Speaker 1>a specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm of people who are road agents of the agenda

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<v Speaker 2>of Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like saying, if somebody here was fighting some specific group,

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<v Speaker 1>the good Boys, the Proud Boys, and they was fighting America.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they don't have sway in government. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying they don't even have people like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even invested over overtly in the history. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>understand simple thing right, like, minus the public narrative of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel support of Palistine support, it's obvious this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the entire idea of the spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Palestine Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the polls where they say Palatinians are favor

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<v Speaker 1>but again, these are people that back certain people to

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<v Speaker 1>even root for that thought. So I don't Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's it's room.

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<v Speaker 3>But for conjecture, and how would you define it?

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<v Speaker 2>Israel fighting Hamas like America is not fighting.

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<v Speaker 4>How big is that delta between what is Hamas and

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<v Speaker 4>what is their massive civilian support which they exploit carb

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<v Speaker 4>Blanche throughout the region.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you said no pushback and no disagreement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they didn't even push back against what Israel

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<v Speaker 1>took over the land itself.

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<v Speaker 2>They're obviously they're not the fighting people.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they've kind of fought like multiple wars since

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<v Speaker 3>that time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you call that a war, don't look pretty war

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<v Speaker 1>ristic to me. They don't have anywhere near the equipment

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<v Speaker 1>to fight these fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they kind of did in sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Even then, it's not even that type of Obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have enough to fight that kind of war

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<v Speaker 1>or this type of war.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just not their theme. But it's not Israel versus Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Pete, look, cuz one thing, I don't really do

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<v Speaker 1>politics because there's a very Eurocentric view of how everything goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro there's a very fucking pale view because of how

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<v Speaker 1>everything goes I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a part of the view of anti the

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<v Speaker 2>establishment nor the establishment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really good at either, or like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>real humane view of all of this that really should

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<v Speaker 1>be the conversation, because somehow it becomes people that's, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're victims, or people that's like, oh, they're aggressive versus

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. It's obviously Hamas is not the desire of

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<v Speaker 1>the complete body of Palestinian people, no different than any

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. But they're also not The military of Palistine

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine cannot tell Hammon what to do. The body of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna make their own decisions. And it's no different

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<v Speaker 1>in America. We couldn't tell the military what to do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't tell the president what to do. We could

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of voting and democracy carries that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>again it's people still doing what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think it's really irresponsible if we say

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<v Speaker 1>that this is some kind of military arm of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that group of people is not

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have Palestine people within it. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's Some people even agree with them fighting a

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<v Speaker 1>fight that they would love to fight. But it's obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that this is not as simple as Israel versus Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not as simple as the Jewish people versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Muslim people. It's much more complex, much more nuanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and much more layered. Yes you did, No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know you took that. You took that statement around with.

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<v Speaker 2>No Israel and Palestine. That's not what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Israel versus Hamas, and that matters even because again, dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we are in uh, We're in the world bro

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<v Speaker 2>where it's way more sheeps than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is to Steal's point, why we even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation started where programming is everything. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>tell people is how they're going to be programmed right,

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<v Speaker 1>because we just got to accept most people.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have the time, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Luxury, none of that to formulate thought based off of

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<v Speaker 1>them taking in information like me or you, that they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have the time, they don't have the focus.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they don't have to focus. We could blame a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand things. We could blame genetics, we could blame God,

0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.880
<v Speaker 1>we could blame America, we can blame a million things.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know, as Shepherd's this is our job. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for sure our job to really gi she some

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<v Speaker 1>level of thought. I mean to hopefully get them to

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<v Speaker 1>use somewhere of their brains. That that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>goal for this podcast. This podcast ain't about making money,

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<v Speaker 1>because if that was the case, I would bring on apps.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would bring on Kendrick Lamar, I'll bring on

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<v Speaker 1>anybody like I would bring on the biggest people. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I felt that you should, you should bring them

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest people. But that's because everything for you is money.

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<v Speaker 5>No, this podcast is for money. Go tell Charlamagne that

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>For no money. He knew that I was not doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for money.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to do that's business. You have to do

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<v Speaker 5>it show for money. You just can't do it show

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<v Speaker 5>just because you say, now, if you had a sad

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<v Speaker 5>little project that you was doing. I think everything in

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<v Speaker 5>this company, everything is online, is about commerce.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, let me tell you something, brother, forgive me some

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<v Speaker 2>big bro. Just listen to me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't done really good in this life, better than

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<v Speaker 1>most people, period, by being authentically what I believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't wake up one day and convince me that

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<v Speaker 1>I should do anything for money that makes you a prostitute.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I.

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<v Speaker 5>Just listen, just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wanted did this podcast for money still, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have never did it. If I didn't think there

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<v Speaker 1>was a true agenda, a true reason to do this pod,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never did it. If I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make money still, I go sell fucking dope. I know

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<v Speaker 1>how to cook PCP. If that's what I'm doing for money,

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<v Speaker 1>every song I make it ain't for money. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to disseminate a message that's important to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have no songs that are You don't hear me

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<v Speaker 1>got no songs about I'm drinking all the liquor in

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<v Speaker 1>the club because I don't fucking drink. You don't hear

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<v Speaker 1>me talking about no songs I'm smoking all the weed.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a song about smoke weed, the whole song

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<v Speaker 1>about smoking weed. Because those are the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>could make for money.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever would be disingenuine because you don't do none of

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<v Speaker 5>those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So this would be disingenuous.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I bring people that I feel like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily validate the reason Pete is here, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most intelligent people I talk to. Even

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<v Speaker 1>he's far more educated, even on a lot of GEO

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<v Speaker 1>is socio like issues, more than me. But again, the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to understand what he's saying is why he is here.

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<v Speaker 1>His ability to listen is whyse here, not his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>So, no steal. It ain't about no fucking money, and

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't nothing never counting, no nigga chasing no money

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<v Speaker 2>but death or prisons.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is, you can't do nothing to chase money.

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<v Speaker 5>But at the end of the day, everything is about

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<v Speaker 5>making money, bro. And I'm not saying this right or wrong. No,

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<v Speaker 5>hear me out on this.

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart gives it.

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<v Speaker 5>I heeart as us under contract. Right, we have a contract,

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<v Speaker 5>we get to guarantee with that contract. After a while,

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<v Speaker 5>with that contract being said that they're not making the money, dog,

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<v Speaker 5>they gonna tell us to kick rocks. But listen to

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Get me out.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand what you're saying to a degree. If you

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<v Speaker 5>are great at what you do, money will invariably be

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<v Speaker 5>the result of it. Because I don't think I go

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<v Speaker 5>out and chase nothing just strictly for a dollar, because

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<v Speaker 5>it's a lot of stuff I good do. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of information I have that that's true. I got

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<v Speaker 5>receipts on certain stuff. If I really want to make

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<v Speaker 5>money and just be one of these messy motherfuckers, I

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<v Speaker 5>could probably go out and do that. But everything in

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<v Speaker 5>this world bro is pretty much based on money. From

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we're talking about to day. The college education system,

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<v Speaker 5>education period, education today is an economic institution. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>based on getting nobody smarter. It's not based on preparing

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<v Speaker 5>you for the real world. If it was, it would

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<v Speaker 5>be way different. You think about it. If you go

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<v Speaker 5>to college right first, thing you do. When you go

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<v Speaker 5>to college. They tell you what you have to take

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<v Speaker 5>your general education courses. Right, yeah, shit that you've already

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<v Speaker 5>taken in high school. You got to go take another

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<v Speaker 5>math class, you gotta take English, you have to take

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<v Speaker 5>a foreign language or whatever else. I ain't been in

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<v Speaker 5>college in a while, but yeah, soon you're still the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if you going to college to you go to

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<v Speaker 5>college to prepare you to go get a job, to go,

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<v Speaker 5>prepare you for a place in the world. Right, colleges

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<v Speaker 5>became one. Yeah, you go to college to prepare yourself

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<v Speaker 5>for the real world, make a living. Well, well, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what you go to college for, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>what everybody else going for. Bro let me finish my

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<v Speaker 5>point because.

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<v Speaker 2>You interrupted me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's important that and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying to peak. Right, just hold that point. Just

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<v Speaker 1>think that point. Go ahead, Pete, I'm sorry, just hold

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<v Speaker 1>that point still. I think how we misuse things, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually blame other people for that. You know why you

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<v Speaker 1>should go to college to get an education.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you get an education for what? In education

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<v Speaker 2>in order to do what?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the point. See how you start to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the human mind. Right, and this is the level

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<v Speaker 1>of why we talk about business. And go ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>your point. But that's the point I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>college get education, But go ahead, finished.

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<v Speaker 2>If we were living in like.

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<v Speaker 5>A time when all the great philosophers were and they

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<v Speaker 5>used to go around the pantheon or whatever man in

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<v Speaker 5>the coliseum and you know, philosophiers or whatever. That's one

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<v Speaker 5>thing I think people go get an education so they

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<v Speaker 5>could you know, live their life.

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<v Speaker 2>They can make it, you know, a meaningful living rights.

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<v Speaker 5>Most people go to college and get the education that

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<v Speaker 5>make a living and put them ahead of everyone else.

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<v Speaker 5>So when they had the resume. You know, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have that you went to Stanford on your resume,

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<v Speaker 5>you want to know the dame or as see, you're

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<v Speaker 5>probably gonna do better than the person that don't have

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<v Speaker 5>that same education as you. Right, That don't make you

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<v Speaker 5>no smarter. But I tell people all the time to

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<v Speaker 5>meet college is a big waste of time right now,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've changed my mind on that, and just in

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<v Speaker 5>the last maybe five six years. People go to school now,

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<v Speaker 5>like the last few years, I've been slowly leaning towards

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<v Speaker 5>that because I told all my kids they go to

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<v Speaker 5>college because you know it's going to help you be

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<v Speaker 5>successful in life. Right, You don't go to college to

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<v Speaker 5>learn shit, no more. You go to college to go

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<v Speaker 5>and get in debt. Most people go to college to

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<v Speaker 5>become a lawyer or unless you're going for some specific

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<v Speaker 5>like you want to become a doctor, you want to

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<v Speaker 5>become a lawyer. But something like that, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 5>a waste of time because you're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Come out and dick it's hyperinflationary real quick before we

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<v Speaker 4>pivot off.

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<v Speaker 2>Glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>How like, just from a philosophical standpoint, how do you

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<v Speaker 4>navigate that kind of separation of the line between doing

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<v Speaker 4>something for money and like providing an audience or a

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<v Speaker 4>greater audience more of what it is that they're looking

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<v Speaker 4>for as like a customer. Like you remember the movie

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Dirt with where he had the friend who was

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<v Speaker 4>selling sparklers in the middle of the desert and then

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<v Speaker 4>he told him you need all the zippy dews and

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<v Speaker 4>all the big fireworks.

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<v Speaker 3>He made all the money sell the bigger fireworks. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you navigate that scenario in your own perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>In that regard, I stick to what I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>and I never really is only as much wiggle room.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, this is no siblings jail, my boy, my

0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>brother Pete in the house, my big brother still in

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<v Speaker 1>the house, family affair.

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<v Speaker 2>I allow very little.

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<v Speaker 1>Minimum room when it comes to morally what I'm about, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the point I was saying to you initially,

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<v Speaker 1>right like almost let the Internet get me upset at

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<v Speaker 1>my real life homies, right where I was saying to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the whole thing with J Cole, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said exactly what Daylight told me, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>what Daylight said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I never doubled down on the fact that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought J Cole wrote that song as a distant Kendrick,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, based off the information, it's a possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>they told me. But the second point I said was regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he didn't write it as a disc, he

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<v Speaker 1>knew it could be tooken as a disc, right, It

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<v Speaker 1>could be tooken as a this if you put it

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<v Speaker 1>next to a you know, a song that's on that project,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a disc, right, which is seven minute drill. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Absol shout out to my little bro ass. So

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<v Speaker 1>he did an interview with Head and he told the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously the fans don't listen to context. Like they

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<v Speaker 1>hear one point and they grasp it, right, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>sheep in them.

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<v Speaker 2>They just grab it. They didn't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you two alternatives, and I said, what make

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<v Speaker 1>J Cole a piece of shit was the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>even if he didn't mean this as a disc right,

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<v Speaker 1>minus what Daylight told me, minus what anybody told me, right, even.

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<v Speaker 2>If he didn't mean it as a disc, he knew

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<v Speaker 2>it could be taking as such.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's messy to put his friends, which is ab

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<v Speaker 1>so in Daylight, you know, as a companion, as a

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<v Speaker 1>tde associate on a project where you dis sen Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the whole context of what I said. That Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I said, exactly, that complete thing. But they

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<v Speaker 1>hear in one specific place and then a Glass, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you see, I knew Glass didn't know he was lying,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, bro, Like, first off, I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>that I knew that this song was a this That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, look at the it's in video. You could

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<v Speaker 2>see that. I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure, I said, But what make J Cole

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<v Speaker 1>not a good person. And even as Sol said, he's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>J Cole is a good dude. I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe all that shit is fluffed because.

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<v Speaker 1>As a good nigga, I would never put somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>on a project while if I know this person is

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<v Speaker 1>associated yours while.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to dish you, because that would be like

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of shit. You know what I'm saying. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of shit. Move you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the type of stuff I'm saying where I

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<v Speaker 1>almost let the internet get me off, and I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to cut Daylight out. I'm about to cut Soul out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like nigga, you gotta know what's a good dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Is a good dude? Ain't somebody that will put you

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<v Speaker 2>on a on a project where you dishing your brother?

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<v Speaker 2>That ain't good.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not really familiar with that situation. But was they

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<v Speaker 5>already beef when they made the song? How long ago

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<v Speaker 5>they make that record? The song was older?

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<v Speaker 1>Daylight said the song was done way before that they

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<v Speaker 1>had did it. He said he sent it to J Cole,

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<v Speaker 1>He never heard it until later on when they was

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<v Speaker 1>about to put it out. He said he had the

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<v Speaker 1>song for a Yeah, this is what they like told

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>me feel me now Aylight could also be fibbing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it ain't no reason he got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me the truth. Like we from the same town and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, and we fuck with each other. But he

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>don't got to be one honest. Or they could be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to preserve a relationship with Ja Cole

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe they see value in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they fuck with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, that's not the important part of it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the politics and hip hop that I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I look at somebody and I'm watching somebody

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<v Speaker 1>associate somebody with the term good dude, and I get

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>what Saul saying. He like man, he's worried about his vision,

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>he worried about his diet. I think that does make

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you a you know, you have a good focus in things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think it's a presentation and how he

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<v Speaker 1>will do things. A good dude would never use you

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and compromise you in the middle of a situation to

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>gain something. Still, I would never use you, or Pete,

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I would never use you in a situation and compromise

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<v Speaker 1>you in a position to gain something.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that says you're unsavory. I mean, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>a stand up dude.

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<v Speaker 3>So to follow this this actually they can't.

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<v Speaker 4>So the song that those guys are on is not yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's it's it's on an EP and the and

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<v Speaker 4>there's another song on that project.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>First I thought you were saying that it was like

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<v Speaker 4>he sent them a beat, they did the thing and

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<v Speaker 4>then like in the verse in the same song.

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 3>But it's like the next song on the EP or something,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 3>it's right there.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was Daylight made this song, he sent it

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to ap abslutely did the verse, and Daylight send it

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<v Speaker 1>to j Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he takes it to him. Nothing came back

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>for a year. This is what he said to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he be lying to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, But I don't know why to fuck with Daylight

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>lou to me because I'm asking him in the middle

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of this ship like them is this nigga? But that's

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>not even a point that that's irrelevant to the point

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>minus how we got there, because that that wouldn't fracture

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>me in Daylight relationship, Like if he lied to me

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>or he's lying publicly, either way, I.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 4>Don't examining it from the Jake coleside, Well, this is

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 4>he had the disverse and and he put his disverse

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 4>on the song that they were on after that already made.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>That's what happened. No, so what was the next song?

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 3>But just the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So what that saying is he did the song and

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the song had been sitting around for a year. That

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>for longer or or six seven months, the song had

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>been sitting around. This is what's being said now, Like

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the song was finished, it been sitting around seven months.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And then when he's putting together this project where he's

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>marketing it as this disrespectful thing, the Kendrick, right, he

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>talks to them being Kendrick and then he put it on.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>That was my That wasn't even my issue. My initial

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>issue was when he came back.

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 1>With this specific song, the song that he just released,

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the port Antonio song, and he's reframing what happened in

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that battle. He's like, oh, you know, like he's also

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like slighting a homie, like he was morally above it.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>That was my issue.

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, you can't present yourself as some morally

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<v Speaker 1>just person. You feel me knowing that you put that

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>song on there, whether it's a this or not. That's

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>what I specifically said. In a lot of stream you

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<v Speaker 1>combining it with a seven minute drill song where you

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>are it's obviously this and that, and then you put this,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you put this song on that project. That means you know,

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>app Show is his man. You know Daylight is an

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>associate of a clique, So why would you do that

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're a righteous dude?

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's slimy, you feel me. That was my point.

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But again because obviously people they hear like this is

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.479
<v Speaker 1>why I said, it's important that we say certain thing

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is what I'm saying is still in you

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>right is the same thing that like, we have to

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>be careful with the things we say because we know

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>people are sheep. We know if nothing else, we shepherd

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like we shepherd bro we leave a lot of people

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>whoever following us. And the message to me is more

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>important than the food at the end, Like it's more

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>important like what we're saying to people. So like if

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting down asking I don't want to get on

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<v Speaker 1>this platform and ask God about what happened in the battle.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even fuck who want to hear it. Like,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my job is to guide people correctly. My God is

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to provide true insight.

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 2>That's my job. See what's the name of this episode,

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 2>conversations that norm Still started.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't started none of this stuff about I want

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about. Well, that's because you were late, Jacob.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't late.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I told you.

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 5>We said when you called me this morning and said

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 5>the shower, myself, come to the shower, and I said,

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 5>give me a minute. I came on you as started.

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<v Speaker 5>So since this is called the conversations that norm Still

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 5>started before I was so rudely interrupted. I think that

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 5>people go to college to get a better life. That

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 5>that's the main purpose the average person when they go

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 5>to college, because we all have all been sold this

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 5>kind of like this bill of goods since we were

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.239
<v Speaker 5>little kids. Go to schools, get an education. It's going

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 5>to lead to a better life. Yeah, everybody I talked

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 5>to got a degree, including myself. They not working in

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 5>that field. They're not working in that field. You know,

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 5>you go to school, you know, get graduate with a

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 5>degree in business administration, and you wind up working at

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 5>an insurance company or something selling insurance.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever, you know, doing business.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but still you understand what I'm saying. It's like,

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, you go to school for this stuff. Like

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 5>I see people go to school and study of like

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 5>African American studies, which is cool, that's what you went too.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 5>But they got this massive amount of debt once they finished.

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>There's certainly a.

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 4>Failure to define, articulate, separate, and compartmentalize the sort of

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>legacy of luxury education and worldliness and the and the

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 4>modern expansion of university access for utilitarian economic purposes. And

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the people who need the latter the

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 4>most are being swayed into pursuing the former to their

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 4>own detriment, which is to me highly irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very anti government forgiveness of college student loan debt.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I am very pro university forgiveness of student loan debt.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love a lot that said, all your universities,

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 4>all that cash, the start, write some Oh we're not

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 4>on the life, you best write some fucking checks.

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree because let me say this.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Though I had wrote this damn while you was talking.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I had that. So you

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>say people go to college for a better life, that's

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the first problem. It's like going to McDonald's to actually

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>get nourished.

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<v Speaker 5>Gee, you have a you gotta understand something, bro, you

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 5>train that I don't disagree, you know, and I agree

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 5>with you, but you gotta remember your philosophy to a

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 5>lot of things. A lot of people just not like

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 5>you said, people are sheep, right. So I think the

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 5>general idea is everybody thinks that, Okay, I'm gonna go

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 5>to school, I'm gonna get a better life, right, I'm

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 5>automatically winning, right, And that's and that's not true because

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 5>most of the people, though, I'm gonna tell you, most

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 5>of the wealthy people I know have a high school

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 5>education that went to a trade school. Everybody I know

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 5>this independently wealth. They want to learn the trade like

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<v Speaker 5>I know it. Guy right now, one of the only

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 5>bigion there that I know. He's heavy in the real estate.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 5>He owns a whole bunch of Bellflower, owns a whole

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 5>bunch of stuff off the six or five corridor. He

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.959
<v Speaker 5>leases the people, and you know, has one hundred year

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 5>land ds. He owns the actually on the six or

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 5>five and two t in the Miller Brewing Company. He

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 5>owns all that land they pay rent to him every month,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 5>or we.

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Just sold the lot next to it a few years back.

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and this is a guy that comes from Patterson,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 5>New Jersey, barely got a high school, actually has a

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 5>ged and just want to took a real estate course, right,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 5>which is the trade? Right?

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>We want to learn the trade right, true entrepreneurs. Yeah,

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and we applies that trade. Every One I know that

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>is wealthy. I don't know.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 5>Nobody with a college degree is wealthy. I know people

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 5>have college degrees that have cool jobs that they can

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 5>get fired from any time. But everybody I know this

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 5>like wealthy, wealthy, They don't have They don't have a

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 5>college education.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Bro. But yeah, you go to college for to me,

0:31:55.080 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 4>teaching entrepreneurism is like testing or innovation. Like we were

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 4>saying a while back, you can't test artistic creativity. You

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 4>can't test innovation trying to track innovation in a model

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 4>the randomness is indecipherable from a from a distinctly like

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 4>purposeful randomization model. Like you can't sit down and get

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 4>a thousand people and say here's a test. We're gonna

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 4>determine which one of you used the most innovative. It

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 4>won't happen.

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>So like, so far as university attendance goes, yeah, you're

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 3>never gonna see that.

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 4>There's actually Robert Kiyosaki, the rich dad, poor dad guy,

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 4>and Donald Trump co. Wrote a book and they talked

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 4>about that in the very first chapter about universities teach

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 4>you how to go work for someone else, not how

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 4>to work for yours.

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's true.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 4>It teaches you at its best, and it teaches you

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 4>how to assimilate into a system efficiently.

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>At its worst, it just gives you a bunch of

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>hot air and a yeah.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 5>And that's why I think we need to bring trade

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 5>s crews back. I remember, I think that was in

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 5>the last generation where they had these classes at school

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 5>that was really interesting. Like they had where people could

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 5>go take all the motive classes, right, go take all

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 5>the motive class woodshot classes. And I knew a lot

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 5>of guys that came out of high school, man they

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 5>went and got their apprentice ship's degrees, became plumbers and

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 5>things like that, and they opened up really long lasting businesses.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I think one of my homeboys, tim me back in

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 5>the high know he might be going on his fourth

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 5>or fifth plumbing, you know, plumbing location to where they

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 5>fixed plumbing, right, and he makes a really good living

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 5>for himself. Don't sent all his kids work for the

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 5>business because they became plumbers just like he did. You know,

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 5>they own a piece of the business. And I think

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 5>that's where man, I think right now, Man, like the

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 5>whole school is full of shit now thog from high

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 5>school and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So you agree with Trump. So you agree with

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Trump as far as there. Now, what is it the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Education?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the department of one because like you said, everybody

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 5>is doing shit for money. Education should never be about money, right,

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 5>it should be the better society. Right, all of these

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 5>people care about these schools administrators, especially in public school. Oh,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>we get two hundred and fifty dollars ahead, so we

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 5>want to make sure these kids in school every day.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 5>We don't give a damn if they really learned thathing.

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<v Speaker 5>We just need a mess so we can get the money.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I think that's the issue with But again

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>it's the convenience. I think again, one thing, like I said,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I disagree with Pete in the head about it, which

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we did this. We did a really dope We did

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a really dope conversation about university's college education. It was

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>dope moking and Pete was really just cooking like that

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was deep. It threw me off, But it's

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the same thing happening in America on all fronts because

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>people are pursuing money. So what happens is you will

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>start to lower the quality of everything, like if you

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>watch the movie The Founder, right and again, like I

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>compare McDonald's, like if you go to college for better life,

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like going to McDonald's to get nourished. Like the

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>thought of it sounds cool, but you gotta look at

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the reality. You should go to college to get educated, right,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>so then you should know what you're getting educated on

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and how you would apply that in real life. That's

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 1>why it's important that people had these conversations with they

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>pick with your parents.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>We had this conversation ironically before, which was about you know, college,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>But again, if you understand you're going to college for education,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to change.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I talked to Chris, Chris is really smartness department.

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>She explained to me. She feels like college is more

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 2>about networking.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 4>You're trying to get what you do, and it's become

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 4>that because that's the only place you can find value.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 5>I would say that's the best thing about it. G

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 5>I would say, I know, so many became away more well.

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I became a much more well rounded person when I

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 5>left Cleveland. I went to college because my whole world

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 5>view and things things I think that and travel, you know.

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 2>What, I believe.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 5>I believe every kid out of high school should go

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 5>on sabbatical to Europe. Like literally, you know how people

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 5>used to just go backpack in the sixties, Peter Like

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 5>they would leave high school and just go around Europe

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 5>for a year.

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I think you come back the only person from my

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 4>graduating class at high school that didn't go fuck around

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 4>in Europe on a bunch of goddamn hostel bunk beds.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 5>I think it's good for people. Gee, I'm gonna tell you.

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 5>When I first started going to Europe and just seeing

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 5>different people, seeing how different people lived, and seeing different coaches,

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 5>it made me a better person. That made me more

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 5>talerant of certain things. I know, I laughed and joke

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 5>a lot about stuff, but it made me appreciate people

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot more, and it made me appreciate this life

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 5>in America that we have a lot more, right, because

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 5>in America.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 2>We so spoiled and entitled. Man, we complained about every

0:36:59.440 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 2>damn thing.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>We don't have this, we don't have that, like right now,

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Like right now, you're complaining because you should be going

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>to college for education, but you got it wrong and

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about going to college for a better job.

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm telling you what the general thought is.

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 5>I didn't say that's not my thought on stuff, so

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 5>that that would be that thought of entitlement. That Yeah,

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 5>most people go to school thinking that they're going to

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 5>get out. They have this thing that okay, once I.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Got a school.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Kind of what you're being sold, that's kind of their words.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But who is really selling that to them?

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Like the universities.

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 2>But then there's an issue between your parents, right your university.

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 5>I think parents more than anything else, pepe selling you

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 5>that because they and I'm gonna tell you the average person,

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 5>especially your mom, they want they so they can brag

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 5>their friends.

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 5>You know such and such, you know they got this,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 5>they got that. Well, women is a big thing for me.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 5>You might like that too, No, to a certain extent,

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 5>but I know I'm a college under the Winter Klege, right,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 5>So I always told my key is this is that

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 5>college is what you make it. If you go to school,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 5>don't just hang out with the football team. Meet other people,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 5>because that's gonna be the biggest thing in your life,

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 5>the connections you've made in your life. It's much easier

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 5>ge to go holler at somebody to get a job

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 5>that you know, more easier, and it's more easier to

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 5>build a business if you have certain people in your network, right,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 5>Like Chris is in the clothing things. Now, that's how

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 5>you're making his money in the off season, right. He

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 5>knows so many people that own fabric shops that own

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, the way he can go get stuff for

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 5>the low or free from in most cases. Right, And

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 5>it really helped him to have, you know, those relationships

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 5>became a benefit to him later on.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 4>That's something like I hung out with five people for

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 4>my track team and I went and did like specific

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 4>like competitively accessible like internships.

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 3>When I was there, I just want to stay and

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 3>it was fine.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 4>I got a decent job offer out of there, and

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 4>then economic downturn whatever happened after that, I was just

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 4>like shit, I look but at that time it kind

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 4>of since then like the way to go full circle,

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 4>like Glasses doesn't want to do doesn't want to prostitute

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 4>himself and the content or whatever else that I'm principally

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 4>opposed to nepotism, so I won't participate in it.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't have much of an appetite to go.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 4>Hang out with people I'm not really the biggest fans

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 4>of or whatever else for purposes of professional networking, you know,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 4>And I understand the rationale saying that the best value

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>in attending university is the networking. To me, that's an

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>indictment of the institution because you can just go stand

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 4>around and hang out and lie and say you go

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 4>to school there and do the networking.

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 3>You don't even have to participants.

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 2>People that just hung out on campus with people that

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>he school. I heard people tell stories of just going

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to hang out on other campuses.

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:03.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a lot of some of some good

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 5>friends I made at New Mester of State, or people

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 5>that didn't even go to school there after, Like, man,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 5>you gotta go to oh I don't go to school here,

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Bryce come up with you to hang.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Out with y'all.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you.

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 4>There are people who go to all the frat parties

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 4>at USC on the road, who go to OCC and

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Santa Monica College and fall ass backwards at the jobs,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 4>never take the set phone on cancer, and they walk right.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Into the cafeteria with me because I'm on scholarship. So

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 5>when I go in, I walked right in the cafeteria

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 5>with my stuff. They right behind me, just talking, just

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 5>getting the thing, eating the same food I'm eating every day,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 5>hanging out. Come about a dorm playing. I'm gonna tell

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 5>you all I did when I went to school, Man,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 5>all I did was play PlayStation Dog Nintendo and eat.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 2>One play football.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 4>I took tests, protested homework, ran tracked, slept, and for

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 4>a couple months out of the year, I drank off

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Rizon Saturdays.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 3>With Street Close.

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 4>Mentorships I got, I got, I gotta not at the

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 4>end because I got tired rent checking and that was then.

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 3>But like get solved every weekend real quick, oh with

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 3>glasses talking about It's the word convenience.

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Convenience is the result of an expansion of quantity, and

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I think quantity and quality largely work in an adversarial relationship.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 4>So like what you see with university acts, like there

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 4>used to not be that many.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Now there's them.

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 4>There's a state college, there's a like on every damn corner,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Like I can't believe how many there's like six colleges

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 4>in South Florida.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 3>There's not even that many people here. And same with McDonald's.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 4>As you expand and expand and expand, the acts is

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 4>what you're able to provide to people. It's impossible not

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.879
<v Speaker 4>to water down the quality of what's being provided. When

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 4>you start off with a higher quality thing and try

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 4>to blow it out, It's it's almost impossible to sacrifice

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 4>quality for quantity at that rate.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Any But that's what I was saying is still initially,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, during this conversation, they.

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Got enough people trying to do that.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>They have enough people in this the population has enough

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>people in this world trying to sell them something, trying

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to sell them goodwill, like you know, people monetizing white guilt.

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a standard thing. Like business is business. You feel me,

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a ton of business. And I understand no Silings

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>podcast is a business, but it is my choice on

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what type of business it should be. Do I want

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to turn it into McDonald's or do I want it

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to be in and out question?

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hypothetically, if you had Kendrick on the podcast, what

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 4>would you want the conversational track to look? Because you know,

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 4>obviously he could go on a hundred different shows and

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 4>he's going to talk about the same four things a

0:42:57.920 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 4>hundred different times.

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. I've never ad not to

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 2>do the podcasts because I don't have anything to talk

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to him about. Fair enough.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds weird, bro, but it's like, yeah,

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I know you like, I don't what am I gonna

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>talk to Kendrick about on a podcast like listen? If

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I had him, I would have to respect the population's

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>desire to hear his perspective of what happened in the battle.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, man, if I talk to dot today,

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I have to be just really catching up with him

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>on how's life being? You know, how I was raising

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the kids, Like how's that chancedince you was a little kid?

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Yo?

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Stuff that you know.

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be cool, but I don't think it

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>makes it a unique conversation just just like yeah, and

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:48.280
<v Speaker 1>it becomes like messy. I get the value in having

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody that you know, hundreds of thousands of people will

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>want to hear from.

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But really I would need.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>A conversation that takes people into a different place, you

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And I don't think think Dot

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of lives a specific life. The things that I

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>would talk to most of the stuff we'd be talking

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>about the stuff that we got into in the past.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And it just don't seem like it would make for

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>interest in podcasts. Like it was different when we sat

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>down and talked to too Short, too Short, to somebody.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I have a million I don't know too Short, I

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>have a million questions. Do I really want the world

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to sit down and get the version of Kendrick that

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I know?

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Not really?

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not that important to me, Like as So

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>is the same thing. Like I don't know what I

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>would talk to artists about.

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 5>I think absolutely I wouldn't mind having a conversation with

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 5>Asol I was talking about some different I would probably

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 5>talk to Absoute about psychedelics and the pineal gland and

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 5>stuff like that, because he got a different train of thought,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 5>he shared similar views to me all certain things.

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but do you think that would be the audience

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>against the chronicles. Caring about pineal gland as.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Far, I wouldn't necessarily bring him on against the chronicles,

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 5>so he probably come on steal a spotlight.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I do gainst One thing I do I try to do,

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>is I certain things.

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 5>If you see me doing something myself, yeah, that's because

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't belong on gainst the chronicles. You feel what

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So if there's an artist that I would talk to,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I would talk to school Boy Q, right because we

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>could talk to school Boy Q about boxing, like right,

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>because like we're realistically have an incredible conversation about boxing.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Man, there's a million.

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Platforms you can go and here listen to school Boy

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Q talk about his album and stuff like that. The

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>version of Q that I would want you to know

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that I have, that's a private relationship with me and cousins.

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>We fuck with boxing and he's a deep.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Fan of boxing. So that conversation could happen on no ceilings.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>People could see something like my goal even when we

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>begin to bring guests on games excuse me on no

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>seilings is people get a version of that person that

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know exists.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 5>I think that's how it should be. I don't never

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 5>think you should go in there and this to just

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 5>interview somebody. They's so whack. So when did you start

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 5>doing this?

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>And people I don't have that, and and and there

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 2>is people that want to learn it. I just don't

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 2>have that. I'm not an interviewer.

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.959
<v Speaker 5>I think people like hearing people's opinions about other things

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 5>and getting to know somebody, Like like to me, hearing Scarface,

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 5>like getting to talk to Scarface about like local politics.

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 5>I thought that was dope, just hear his train of thought,

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, conversations that I had with Willie d you know,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 5>like the Get Up Boy is my favorite group of

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 5>all time, hands down, But just to hear those dudes

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 5>talk about politics on just a whole nother left. I

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 5>think them and Pete would have a great conversation because

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 5>they're really into this stuff. You feel what I'm saying.

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 5>They're really into politics. Yeah, so, and I think it

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 5>makes for a great conversation hearing that one of the

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 5>greatest gangster rap roops of all time really talk about politics. Man,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 5>it's dope, Yeah for sure.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen there, I'll sacrifice anything for Pete. I mean, like,

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad, we didn't get the Kennedy interview, you know.

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a lot of stuff happening, But

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll circle back and get some peat. That's devastating. But

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>so unless Pete wants to talk to somebody, like it

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>don't really motivate me. Like talking to Pete, you know,

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>makes me think a million you know, if Pete blows

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I mean, Paul's like, I'm sure he blows

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>other people's mind.

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. That's the truth. Like it's

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like he's a smart dude, and.

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not just smart, like minus the education part, his

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>ability to think and listen.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Technically I'm not educated.

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I claim that I'm not educated and that I'm still

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 4>a virgin because technically, technically I haven't finished anyway.

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So no, So yeah, that's all I'm saying. So to

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>your original point, like, the business of no silings is

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>my perspective. That's the business of no sellings. It's not

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>anybody else's perspective. It's my perspective. And I like what

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Pete brings out of my perspective. I like when Pete

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>challenges me to think, you know what I mean, I

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>prefer that when he uses words that I have to

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>remember what that word meant to pull it out. Like

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will say Pete's too smart, and

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's not about Pete's.

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>With it's is he listens.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So we're having a conversation even initially the conversation you

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>walked in on, where I know what he's referencing even

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>though I haven't talked about it in twenty years, right,

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>which is the history of that land that we call

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Palestine and injury, Like, I know the story even though

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about it. But then there's this place

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>as a human, and that's where my goal is, even

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>with Pete. I always bring him back to a humane level.

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing my desire for Pete is to

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>always bring him back to the most primitive humane Yes,

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 5>Tell you who I want to talk to this really

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 5>of the Gainst the chronicles. Land want them on Gainst

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 5>Chronicles for reasons that John ho Brian dude, who's that

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.240
<v Speaker 5>the financial.

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Literary gut Oh, he's dope, He's real dope. Pete.

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 5>I think you would like him, man, like check him out.

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 5>I think because similar stuff he talks about it with

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 5>the founding like you know, black people's broke and just

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that's stuff that we need.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, I face, I saw some kiss from he

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 2>was dope.

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.240
<v Speaker 4>That's That's something that I've like one of my closet

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 4>dreams to do with like Malcolm one day, if we

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 4>ever made it enough to get any credibility behind anything

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 4>we say, it would be.

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 3>To go around and do like.

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 4>A free three hour thing at like the Jackie Robinson

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 4>or the Basketball Jim at Dorsey or something like that,

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 4>and just like hop around different and be able to

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 4>make a presentation for thirty minutes, then do two and

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 4>a half hours of Q and A with people just

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 4>from the neighborhood and different cities around the country.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I would I would do that.

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Shit, that's very no syllingis I would be down to

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>do that, I think.

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Again.

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It goes back to that same conversation about me being street.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, man, there is no representation. There's only you know,

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.439
<v Speaker 1>force on the ghetto. Everybody is talking bad about gang banging.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>They talked bad about the ghetto anything and gang banging.

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I said, I was looking at this

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>keV Mac shout out to my brother keV Man, my

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Big keV Is Man. I love Big cav Bro. He

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>is just an awesome dude, you what I mean. And

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know he's been through hell and figuring out you know, life.

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 2>We come out of this, but I just truly appreciate

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 2>his perspective, you know what I'm saying.

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.879
<v Speaker 1>And he was telling the story where they ran into

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this legendary dude from Inglewood, NHP like will Pout, and

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>he was saying how they gave him a past because

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he was dating his niece. And I feel like when

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>people talk about gangs, like back to the community conversation,

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.439
<v Speaker 1>that he is always this, oh yeah, you know, people

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in the hood we just trip on each other, but

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 1>if it was a white person, we wouldn't trip on them.

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I hear that so much, and it's so frustrating

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's just not true, Like that's just not true.

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>We don't just trip on each other because we black,

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not even just me, Like, yes, there is one or

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>two assholes that trip on people because they're black, just

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like in Diddy situation. There are some execs who are

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>sexual devians. But my issue is if you were complicit,

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>if you just stood by why these things were happening.

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>You just as bad as the party involved. You might

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>even be worse. Like a rapist specifically can't control their urge.

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>They get excited by somebody resisting. But if you were

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in the room and you let somebody do that, and

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>then you let them do that again, you're worse than

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that person. At least that person mind is messed up.

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with yours that don't make you stop them?

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So I was telling ADM. I'm like, like he was

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. They was, you know that his homies

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>would just go punch on innocent smokers, and I'm like, man,

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I would trip on my homies if they did that.

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It used to be a drug program that used to

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>come out at the end of one hundred and seventeenth

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Street and they would walk to the Metro rail the

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Rose of Park station right.

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 2>You know on willer Brook in period and they would

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 2>walk from the.

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Drug diversion program was next to the county jail, you know,

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 1>on Mona, So they would walk down to seven because

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it was a shortcut versus walking to a period ram.

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So they would walk down one hundred and seventeenth Street,

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and I remember shout out to the hommy little Wayne,

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 1>and he locked up. He got a bunch of time,

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>but Lil Wayne wanted to trip him, like they don't

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>say none to these people. Cauz, Like, bro, what do

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you think you're doing? You mean, like my big hommie pluck.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>This is somebody I grew up listening to it to

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>some degree, really just idolizing him to a true you know,

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:35.800
<v Speaker 1>straight up. I just respected the type of man he

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 1>was in the streets. But there were times where he

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to shoot somebody because they called him a nigger

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:41.479
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of traffic. And we finish get life

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>because you want to kill this nigga because he called

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>us in word because y'all having the traffic argument.

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>You want to blow his head off in the middle

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 2>of people. We finsa go to prison for that.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that ain't worth it, you mean, and I'll

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>stop him, Like I wouldn't let sucker stuff happen around

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>me by the time I came into my masculinity and

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>accountability by the time I was twenty, you couldn't do

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>no sucker stuff around me.

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Immediately, I was gonna challenge you on it, you know

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And that's it.

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I've been like that, you know, my whole life,

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>even when I was more worried, I still would say

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.919
<v Speaker 1>something like even when I wasn't the most courageous person,

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I still would say something in my team. So I

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how, you know, people get so upset when,

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>like I stand on some level of principles or morals,

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Like even still when we talk about like all this

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff with homosexuals, I'm like, how can y'all How do

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:31.879
<v Speaker 1>y'all just see this world of a bunch of people

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>being gay unless you saw it? Like people make it

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>like I'm crazy for not believing everybody is in the closet,

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, how do you just live in this

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.839
<v Speaker 1>world believe in everybody's in the closet unless you know people.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know nobody in the closet. You probably do.

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Dog, Now, listen to what I'm saying, I don't know

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>anybody in the closet, so that means that they are

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>hiding it from me.

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 3>But if you're saying that's kind of what the closet

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 3>concept is, So what.

0:53:57.560 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, or how do you know that they're in

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 2>the closset it unless they came.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 5>I never will forget the time when the stuff went

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 5>on with Old Boy that was on TV. What was

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 5>that rapper's name came up? And you said, man, how

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 5>come he didn't tell me? That's the whole thing. A

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 5>lot of people just don't a lot, especially in the

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 5>black community. Bro, a lot of people living in shame.

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>This is shame. People can't live a black community on

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I know you ain't seen it, but it's the real

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it's the real thing. A community, but not one community.

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>It is a real thing.

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stuff that we do in concert

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 1>with each other that's like, but that's like saying going

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to college for a better job versus going to college,

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>like let's stop.

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 2>A black community. Yeh.

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 5>I think you sometimes overthink stuff.

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm not I'm just thinking you Oh you overthink stuff, overthinking.

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm just what's overthinking? And what's refusing to underthink?

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Like yet repeating narrative like you just say something because

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>this is where everbody sa not even caring to me.

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Black people for the longest have always looked down on

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.399
<v Speaker 5>homosexual It's just just a true fact.

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 3>That might be a culture that I don't know if

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 3>that's a community.

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Mean, Black America has gay people, So how could gay people.

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you, I'm not Again, this is not my

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 5>personal opinion, bro, because honestly, I don't care what.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>We're not trying to peg you down as the heathen

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you are. That's not what we're trying to do. What

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>we're saying to you is, how do you say that.

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm saying is irresponsible to say black community,

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 1>because then you're saying it's a part of how every

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>black persons fabric the majority, and that's not true. I

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>think you from the ghettos because you're from a ghetto

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland and I'm from a ghetto and Compton to watch, right,

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we have certain things that don't represent the

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 1>rest of black people outside of those ghettos.

0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:59.759
<v Speaker 5>I would think, Yeah, I think definitely. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's a thing that's based on people not experiencing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like not seeing other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when I first came to LA and I

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<v Speaker 5>was went to Hollywood and I saw two dudes holding hands.

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<v Speaker 5>That tripped me the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're from the ghetto and I wasn't used

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<v Speaker 2>seeing and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Wasn't used to seeing certain things, right, And you know

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<v Speaker 5>when I worked in Hollywood. When I worked for Mind

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<v Speaker 5>the Music, you became just so none of that type

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff because there was so many people doing different

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<v Speaker 5>stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You had girls holding each other's hands, you had.

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<v Speaker 5>Dudes holding each other's hands and doing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>other stuff to where it was kind of like, I think, man,

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<v Speaker 5>people should live in their truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't even want to have that generic conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is back to the point of why

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<v Speaker 1>we should always use Black America. If we're referencing and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's no really light ideas, there's no really light

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<v Speaker 1>mind ideas for black people in America. Now, me and

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<v Speaker 1>you again, we come from the ghetto of America. There

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<v Speaker 1>are like minded things. You're right in most ghettos in

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<v Speaker 1>America unless you're in Atlanta. And I can't say this

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<v Speaker 1>is true for Atlanta because I think, even to their defense,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't see that traditionally in the ghetto. So again

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<v Speaker 1>we're conflating our ideas on the rest of Black America.

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<v Speaker 1>People who have been suburban black people, people that have

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<v Speaker 1>been wealthy black people, they don't fall under these dice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, So again, I don't think I'm overthinking. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm thinking that's it. I don't even think most

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff I'm even saying to Pete. It took

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<v Speaker 1>me ten hours to think is I'm listening and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do people say this? This is just one of

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<v Speaker 1>those bad ideas, like going to college to have a

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<v Speaker 1>better life. I've never in my life thought you go

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<v Speaker 1>to college to have a better life, because I've always

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<v Speaker 1>thought like I just didn't carry on, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>sheet concept, right, I didn't just carry on the thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought McDonald nourished me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the average personal g the average family. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's what they've been taught from generation and generation,

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<v Speaker 5>that oh, if you go to school, you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have a better life. It's going to give you an advantage.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, there are a certain advantages to

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<v Speaker 5>have a degree less unemployment, you know, statistically, they you know,

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<v Speaker 5>live longer, statistically, are homeowners. It's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, the fact it's kind of back by facts,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Mod correlation thing.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're if you're more disciplined than ambitious, you're probably

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<v Speaker 4>more apt to go to college.

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<v Speaker 5>So is that on you or is that on the

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<v Speaker 5>college I think that's more on you. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's more on you. Just like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>the richest person I know is a guy that came

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<v Speaker 5>from Patterson, New Jersey. Needs to sleep in his car,

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<v Speaker 5>but he had the ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, all I'm saying is I think it's our job

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<v Speaker 1>to guide people because they come to us for guiding,

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<v Speaker 1>even the people who don't know they need guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the things we say, you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>It is frustrating to say something to people and people

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<v Speaker 1>to hang on one specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of what you're saying. So you know, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, Wayne always told me the one thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get comfortable with is being misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 2>I never forgot that, and I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, like when like when we prepare people, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>from these ghettos, and we say, hey, man, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to college for a better life. That's just the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>thing to start saying. You go to college for education. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how you apply that to what you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the rest of your life is a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean that that becomes a personal responsibility. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no way to sheep when you guide sheep right to

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<v Speaker 1>different pastors like you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's why we hear.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's important that I don't compromise certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>because we can gud sheep into the wrong place, like

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<v Speaker 1>some people feel like when I talk about gangs, it

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<v Speaker 1>make people want to be a part of gangs. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I said about it, if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in that community, why would you be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody who grows up there, right, they know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying nothing that's surprising to them, only to

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<v Speaker 1>the people that's not from the community. And my number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing is, why would you be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>that military if you're not from that community, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>value in it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your motivation? And only to be selfish at.

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<v Speaker 4>That point, and I think even like to that point,

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<v Speaker 4>you've also said you didn't think you were going to

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<v Speaker 4>be good at game banging until you realized you weren't

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<v Speaker 4>bothered by jail. Yeah, if you don't, if you're bothered

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<v Speaker 4>by the prospect of jail, stop that's probably not for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to do something else.

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<v Speaker 3>All you're gonna do is sell out the people that

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to care about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Post exactly rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah m