1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Good mornings, Sweeper and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, October twenty first, twenty twenty five. Happy NBA 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Day to all that celebrate. I'm Jay Skis here in 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: the Classic Factory and alongside me as always tass Mellis 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Blue Jays, I'm now next to him. It's my big 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Blazer boy, Drey Kurby, Hey, yo and over Yonder making 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello, there he is here. 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: We are. Yeah. You got a little George Springer step 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: to you today, guys, a baller. That was amazing. 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: He just steps onto the field. Three run Dinger, Hello, 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Hello to you. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Hello. This is exciting times. This exciting times. Jay's in 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the World Series. It is weird when you say it 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: out loud. I think it's extra weird because we have 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: NBC coming back to broadcast NBA games like it's the nineties. 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Now we get the Jay's in the World Series like 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: it's the nineties. What else? Alter Beck? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah? Listen. 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: The Toronto Blue Jays and twenty twenty five are the 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: Toronto Raptors of twenty nineteen. Going on, The Blue Jays 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: came back from down to zip in the Alcs, just 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: like the Raptors did in the Eastern Conference Final against 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: the Bucks. They go on to the finals against the 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, team that no one had any expectations 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: for the Raptors, just like the Blue Jays going against 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: up up against the Los Angeles Dodgers power no one expects. 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Right, they're gonna shock the world, is what you're saying. 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's gonna come down to sho hao tany. 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: At the plate, you are dressed like a today. 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: You look like holy crime. Off at the plate, two down, 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Game six, the two pitch. 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: Oh and you should have chosen Toronto over all. 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's literally Joe j home down James. We're 33 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: pretty fired up. The World Series start thankfully, not till Friday. Yeah, 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: that's good. You know we got we got basketball all that. 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: So that's what's the what's the wait for? Uh? Like 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: every single during the series we take a week off. 37 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a good question. Literally three 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: days off. It's weird. I'm happy for it as a 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: basketball fan, So that's good. Anyway, that was fantastic. Podcast listeners, 40 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: come on over to YouTube see umpire tasks he had 41 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: the what do you call it? Pitch count? I guess thing? Yeah, 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the counter called the counter. Okay, yeah, you used the 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: plump games. Yeah. 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: This was done in part because I haven't been able 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: to use this mask for thirty years. 46 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: Danielle sees it every once in a whilech It's like, why 47 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: do you still have that? And I say there will 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: be one day where I need it. And it came 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: through today. 50 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: It's the shirt pretty jacked right now, so like you 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: look like you got sort of padding on. 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: It's just you know, Yeah, it's a good shirt and 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: I think it's impressive. You're doing a squat for this 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: whole episode. Chair. 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: This is also something I haven't used in thirty years. 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: I say, hey, daughter, would you like to keep score 57 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: of the game here that we're watching? 58 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: No, I never realized how difficult it is for an 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: umpire to talk in one of these masks. Yeah, I 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: think it's a rot hat. That's better. We can't talk that. 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Oh there we go? Yeah there, Yeah that looks super smooth. 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: We're fired up here. Look let's talk basketball. Here a 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: new season new merch showing to remind everyone our latest 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: no Dunk's shirt crew neck. It's up it went up yesterday. 65 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: People are already gabbling this one up at No dunks 66 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: dot com. Our friends up breaking t have a promotion 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: going on twenty five percent off this item, either the 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: shirt or the crew neck if you use the code 69 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: no dunks twenty five. So again, go to no dunks 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: dot com or hit the link in the show notes 71 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: to get that. God that pops. Oh my god, you're right, Tess, 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean just Tray. I guess it was Trey yesterday 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: saying the small logo on the front, big ball on 74 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: the back, big bombs. Yeah, looks cool. And I had 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: somebody reach out to us TK slid into the DMS 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: JD you know them well, shoe for Shoe Fury, Yes, 77 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: did your custom kicks over on the other shelf. I said, hey, 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I can pay the basketball. I'll paint that basketball for you. 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: You can paint a shoe, you can paint a ball. 80 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: Everybody always says that excellent. That'll be very cool to 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: have in here. 82 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did say explicitly you can't dribble it, you 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: can't use it. Well, okay, okay, we'll obviously have it 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: on the table or somewhere. So anyway, thank you. I 85 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: aware that paint, all right. Well it is a bum 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: all right. So we have some fun today. We're going 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: to draft some bold predictions that you guys made on 88 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: our substack page. But before we get to that, some 89 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: NBA news got some extensions to talk about. Nuggets guard 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Christian Brown has agreed to a five year, one hundred 91 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollar rookie contract extension with the franchise. 92 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I am pretty sure this deal has no team or 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: player options, but Nuggets to take care of some business 94 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: here right before the deadline. Tests. 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: This is a great fifth guy to have in your 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: starting lineup, and he proved it last year. Bigger role 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: became more efficient. Now you add Cam Johnson beside Jokic, 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon, and I think the attention 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: will be all and those guys. I think he's shown 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: that he's pretty good at attacking closeouts. He can drive, obviously, 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: he loves fast breaks. He is just a perfect guy 102 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: to have there as your fifth guy. 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: He showed it. 104 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: I mean he led the league in fast break points 105 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: per possession. 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: What is that stat? I don't really know. 107 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: But going into it, I mean he scored six points 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: a game in transition so Jokic will get those boards 109 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: and feed this guy. Yes, yeah, and yes, and he's 110 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: just ready defensively. But because Cam Johnson is there and 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: had eleven drives per game last year, Jamal Murray looks better. 112 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: Aron Gordon looks good. We went working with Jokiic, Christian 113 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Brown showed that he can be a very very good, 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: complimentary player, you. 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: Know, down the peg. 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: Obviously he is not going to be a hey, I'm 117 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: going to break you down type of offensive player. But 118 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: when those other guys create space, he will be able 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: to take the space that he gets, and I think 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: there'll be plenty of it. The guy's super durable. He's 121 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: missed only nine games in his three year career. That's 122 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: part of what you're paying for. You shown that he's 123 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: really really great. 124 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikola Yokic is the new Steve Nash. He just 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: gets guys paid. 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: Look at all of the players who have played alongside 127 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: Jokic who have gotten gigantic contract. Jamal Murray like he 128 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: might have done it on his own, but it definitely 129 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: helps being part of the one two game. 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior. 131 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: Got paid, Bruce Brown got paid, CACP got paid. Now 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 4: Christian Brown is getting paid as well. And this is 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: a great deal for the Nuggets. It's like thirteen to fourteen, 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: fifteen percent of the cap through age twenty nine. And 135 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: this is a guy, like tas said, who's improved basically 136 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: every single year and also was great in the NBA 137 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: Finals as a rookie. Like he's a perfect support piece 138 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: for this Nuggets team. He's one of their better defenders. 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Gordon takes the bigger perimeter sort of players, 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: Christian Brown takes the smaller guys, and I think he 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: does a pretty good job. He could be a better 142 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: defensive playmaker, Like he doesn't get a ton of deflections, 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: he doesn't get a ton of steals or blocks, but 144 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: he holds his own on that end great in transition, 145 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: knocks down three pointers. You got to do that plan 146 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: alongside Jokic. He could probably stand to take some more 147 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: three pointers. That would definitely help the Nuggets. But they 148 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: knew when they let KCP go last year that Christian 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: Brown was going to be ready to start. 150 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: He started, he was great. 151 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: Now they've done the good work of getting him paid 152 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: and improving their bench. Replacing Christian Brown off the bench. 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: Basically he tooksepas spot, but they never had anything to 154 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: address the bench. 155 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Now they got a better bench. Question is could they. 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: Have gotten him for cheaper, Like if they let him 157 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: play out this season he goes into restricted free agency, 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: maybe they could have maybe got him for like twenty 159 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: million dollars a year, which would help their books long 160 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: term because they are kind of locked into their team 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: now they're going to be an expensive team, but the 162 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: good vibes are probably worth five million dollars per season 163 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: to have this deal done. 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Everybody on the same page, ready to go at the 165 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: start of the year. Yeah, and if they believe he 166 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: can continue to make even more of an offensive leap, 167 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: which he might be able to. What did he average 168 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half points per game last year on 169 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: unbelievable shooting splits fifty eight percent from the floor, basically 170 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: forty percent from three. He's good at the line eighty 171 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: three percent from there. You brought up the fast break points. 172 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Yet he gets out there. He's obviously super athletic. You 173 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: play with Yokich, run man, He's going to find you. 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: But you said it TK. They are all in on 175 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: this starting five here. These guys. Yo Kich obviously the 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: huge paycheck Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown, and Cam Johnson. 177 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: What I like about that though, is like they all 178 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: get paid accordingly, Like it's sort of the pecking order. 179 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: It like goes down, down, down, down down to Jamal 180 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: to ag to Christian Brown, and then Camp Johnson slots 181 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: in there. The one guy they didn't reach the rookie 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: extension with was Peyton Watson, so that is one name 183 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: that didn't sign right before the deadline, and you know 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: they'll have decisions to make, But they also think they're 185 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: a championship contender, as we all believe as well, especially 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: when they showed up the bench a little bit. 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian Brown obviously improved the efficiency, improved on as 188 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: a bigger role. So this guy's a kid, so they 189 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: feel like he will get better. I mean, he's twenty four, 190 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: so he still has his prime years left. But it 191 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: feels like Nikolai Jokich ain't going anywhere. Maybe I'm just 192 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: being optimistic. After signing a guy now to a five 193 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: year extension where he'll be there for six more seasons 194 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: because it starts next year, Jamal Murray's going to be 195 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: there for the at least four years and Gordon at 196 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: least four years. 197 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: It just feels like. 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: You're satisfying Nikola Jokic with all his supporting guys. Cameron 199 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Johnson is probably the next guy that they have to 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: sign as long as he fare as well these next 201 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: two years, and I imagine he will. But that's starting 202 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: five is freaking fantastic to go along with the bench. 203 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: As Trey mentioned, So Peyton wats the thing I'm not 204 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: so worried about. They're deep enough, but he's a solid 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: young player at this point. 206 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on the Nuggets or we can move 207 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: to Dyson Daniels. 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: Anybody wants Zeke Naji. He's like the only bad contract 209 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: on the books. We'll see if anybody takes him and 210 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: Peyton Watson take him or leave him. I think is 211 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: kind of the idea here, like if you can outplay 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: your contract, we can sign you in the summer, and 213 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: if not, good luck to you. 214 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Well. Hawks All defensive guard Dyson Daniels has agreed to 215 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: a four year, one hundred million dollar rookie contract extension 216 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: with the franchisees happened yesterday. Of course, Daniels won the 217 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: NBA's Most Improved Player he was runner up for Defensive 218 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and he finished with a whole 219 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: bunch of steals two hundred and twenty nine steals last season, 220 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the most in a season by any player since Gary 221 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Peyton back in ninety five ninety six. Start with you 222 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: on this one. TK Daniels four years, one hundred million. 223 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: He has the same agent as Josh Giddy and he 224 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: got the exact same contract, four years, one hundred million. 225 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't know who you would take, Giddy or Dyson Daniels. 226 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: They both have their strength, both have their weaknesses, but 227 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 4: just the same as Christian Brown thirteen to fourteen percent 228 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: of the cap. But Dyson Daniels is a lot younger 229 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 4: than Christian Brown. Dyson Daniels signed through age twenty six, 230 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: so the Hawks, if he sticks around for the entirety 231 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 4: of this contract, we'll have to pay him again. Kind 232 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: of a flip side player as Christian Brown. Daniels is 233 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: a great defensive playmaker. He makes incredible plays down in 234 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: clutch time. 235 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: He's a steels guy, he's a deflections guy. 236 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: He turns defense into offense and that's kind of his 237 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: best way of scoring. 238 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: He did take a step forward. I thought on the offensive. 239 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: End last year, could stand to get a little bit stronger, 240 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: finish better inside. The shot is still a work in progress, 241 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: but he's a pretty good playmaker. I think so. Is 242 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: he like a point guard of the future for the Hawks. 243 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: If things don't go well this season, Trey Young decides 244 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: to look elsewhere. 245 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 246 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: About that, but you can call him like a team 247 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: MoU Rondo on that side. He's not going to be 248 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: a scorer, but he can create for others. I think 249 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 4: he could outplay this deal. It could be worth more 250 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: than twenty five million dollars a year and as kind 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: of the Hawk's fourth guy in the pecking order. 252 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Pretty good. Yeah. According to The Athletic, the Hawks had 253 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: pushed for Dyson Daniels to take a five year deal 254 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: in the range of around twenty three million, but in 255 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the end they took one less season. Daniels and his 256 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: team took one less season on the contract with that 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: slightly higher average annual value at the twenty five million 258 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: there for the four for one hundred, but you know, 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: the Hawks were like, well, five for a little bit less, 260 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: but they sort of compromised on this test. It seems 261 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: like a very good deal. 262 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: For Dyson Daniels because you know he's going to be 263 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: incredible defensively. It's just fun watching this guy defensively being 264 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: able to get in the space of an offensive player, 265 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: and then yeah, that initiates his offense, which surprisingly he 266 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: got way more efficient at. He did get better at playmaking. 267 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: He is more of a secondary playmaker as opposed to 268 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: a point guard. Yeah, I don't think you can ever 269 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: call him a point guard. That's not really his fourtee. 270 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: But he got better at shooting the ball. He got 271 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: better at this three point percentage, which we were we 272 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: all wondered, is he going to be a good three 273 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: point shooting now he's a little bit below average, But 274 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: I think here just going through his third year in 275 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: the NBA where he got such an increased role, to 276 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: see that efficiency jump, I think you're buying in as 277 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: you said, Trey, he's a young dude. I'm totally fine 278 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: thinking that he's going to get better. And he said 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: he worked a little bit more on his mid range 280 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: game this past offseason, which he never really shot incredibly 281 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: well at. But he's getting I think he can get 282 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: better offensively. So I got no worries about this guy. 283 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a better contract than Josh Getty. Knowing 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: that on the defensive end, you literally can put him. 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: On anybody on anybody definitely helps. Yeah, he's incredible. Yeah, 286 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: both of these rookie extensions are like great in my 287 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: opinion because you said it, TK, It's like these are like, 288 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: in theory, your third, maybe even your fourth best player 289 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: on hopefully a good team. You're laughing if that's at 290 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen percent of the cap space moving forward? For 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: these guys, you know that they're both I'm talking about 292 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Christan Brown here and Dyson Downers. They're both energy guys. 293 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: They both just slot into good teams, great teams they 294 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: sort of like could continue to improve, just like no 295 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: brainers here for both these And this is wild for 296 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Dyson downs when you think about like before he was 297 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: on the Hawks last year, there's no way we would 298 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: have been projecting him to get this type of payday. 299 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: It's like not a chance because we hadn't seen it yet, right, 300 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: and we didn't maybe even think even had it in 301 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: him the offensive growth. We didn't know he's that good 302 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: a defender. So what a year in Atlanta and then 303 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: he gets paid here. 304 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pelicans needed to give him a bigger role 305 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: to see what he had, and unfortunately they did not 306 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: moved on, and here we are. 307 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: It's a. 308 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: Contract we talked recently about with Keegan Murray, who hasn't 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: shown a lot of improvement. He needs to be beside 310 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: better players like some of these guys like Dyson Daniels is, 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: like Christian Brown is, and maybe he'll be better, but 312 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: unfortunately he dropped off because of the Sacramento King situation. 313 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: So we'll see there. But Dyson Daniels doesn't look like 314 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: he's ever going to drop off. 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: A you're basically saying your yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. 316 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: Murray, if you want to be pessimistic, you would say 317 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: you had one good season. 318 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, and he shoots under sixty percent of the line. Yeah, 319 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: that's sure. So can he actually shoot? We'll see fair point. 320 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Are you not as high on the Kegan Murray deal? Yeah? Maybell, 321 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: now that these other ones have come in at lesser money, well. 322 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: He's got to be on a better team. No, but yeah, 323 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: it's it's slightly it's more money lesser. Yeah, you're right, 324 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: you're right, uh am I. Well, the whole King situation 325 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: is just is the bigger problem and Sacramento than the 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: one contract. But I think Dyson, you know, he moved 327 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: up to thirty four percent from three. 328 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 329 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: Yes, the free throw percentages, it's an odd one, that's 330 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: for sure. 331 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: It's not good. No, whis usually to Rondo like player. 332 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a great passer, has good vision, makes some 333 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: crazy passes. You know, Rondo was a better player for 334 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: sure than Dyson Daniels, but the shot never came around 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: for Rondo. I don't really think Daniels is a threatening shooter. 336 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: He shot what'd you say, thirty four percent? That's under 337 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: league average. I'm sure all of his shots are wide open. 338 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: But they need somebody who can guard on the perimeter 339 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: to play alongside Trey Young. Also, he's got a brother 340 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: coming to the NBA Dash Daniels. 341 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, great name, he thought, Dyson Daniel, Yeah from 342 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: both great. Yeah, it's a fair point about Daniels. We're 343 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: basically getting at, like, is there any worry he's an awesome, incredible, 344 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: all defensive guy, But is there any worry that he 345 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: will be played off the floor in a playoff series? 346 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: We just don't know, because he's played like a handful 347 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: of minutes in the playoffs back in the Pelicans days. Yeah, 348 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: like we got to get there with the Hawks, and like, 349 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm not as concerned that will be the case, but 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Like, is he who was 351 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: a prime example of that that was like, uh, like 352 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: Tony Allen. Like, I mean, he's a better offensive player 353 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: than Tony Allen. He's got more touch, more feel, I 354 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: think on the offensive end. But that's what we're getting at. 355 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 356 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: Well, that's why they signed Nakayle Alexander Walker. Is it 357 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 4: gonna be a problem when Nikael Alexander Walker is closing 358 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: games over Dyson Daniels, Because I think that'll happen sometimes, 359 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 4: it's gonna be somebody's gonna have to sit down. 360 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Reesa J. 361 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: Daniels, Nikayle Alexander Walker, these are all guys that the 362 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: Hawks are invested in that are played basically the same position. 363 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 364 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that Dyson Daniels four and a 365 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: half assists per game is just gonna go away. 366 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I think he can handle, he can pass. 367 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's not an incredible shooter, but again, getting 368 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: close to three point percent to league average. I think 369 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that, yeah, he'll leave open, 370 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: but he's gonna shoot it. Uh, and then he can 371 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: play make do. 372 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: We know if Dash Daniels plays just like Dyson faster 373 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: because of his name or what's going on. 374 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: I think he's played rugby in his past, so he's 375 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: a tough because he's an ay. 376 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Dyson did not though, Diyson did not. Fascinating. 377 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: Wow, surprising, Yeah, like with his building, Yeah, the way 378 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: he plays here, Yeah, he can rough anybody. 379 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very weird. All right. Finally, in deals that 380 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: got done, Pacers forward Aaron Nesmith agreed to a two year, 381 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: forty point four million dollar contract extension with Indiana through 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: the twenty eight twenty nine season, plus a trade kicker. 383 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: So you know, this was the max that he was 384 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: eligible for, and the Pacers and Nie Smith and his 385 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: team get it done. T K thoughts on two year, 386 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: forty point four for Nie Smith. Great deal. 387 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: I mean he's getting paid less than Christian Brown and uh, 388 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: Dyson Daniels and he's a fifth starter on a good team. 389 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: So I think that's pretty good work for Indiana. He 390 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: had that awesome fifteen point fourth quarter against the Knicks 391 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: last year. 392 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Watching it in New York. 393 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: One of the greatest moments in my life seeing these 394 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: Knicks fans get to destroyed. 395 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh so good, so good. That was not the game. 396 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: We went eight for nine some deep yeah yeah, and 397 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: then Halliburton hit the crazy jumper as well. But this 398 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: guy kind of reclaimed his career playing in Indiana as well, 399 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: found himself as a player after two seasons in Boston 400 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 4: where he looked like maybe he's not going to get 401 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: a big contract after his rookie deal. Figured out, I 402 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: can play full court defense. I can foul guys up 403 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: and down the court for the entirety of the time 404 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: that I'm out there and make three pointers. 405 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: You'll get paid if you can do that. 406 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: If you buy into your role, people will give you 407 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: twenty million dollars in the NBA. 408 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: I love how the Pacers just haven't given up on 409 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: their entire rotation. Frankly, here we go, let's do it again. 410 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: You see it sometimes in the past, where you have 411 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: a good team and then you start to tear it apart. 412 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: We see the Boston Celtics, obviously they had one more 413 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: year after winning the championship, and you just tear things 414 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: apart with Stu the old twenty eleven mass start to 415 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: tear things apart. 416 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: This team the same team. Well he lost Myles, yeah, 417 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: they lost Miles. It's pretty notable. 418 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know this is totally true. Yeah, what 419 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: a mistake I just made. Uh yeah, But otherwise the 420 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 2: same unit. Hey, this is the time where guys in 421 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: the front office they do their books, and they did 422 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: it extremely well. Here just looking at what they have 423 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: going forward for several years. Everybody is paid other than 424 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: Miles Turner, and it's the same team you're going to 425 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: see out there. He's gonna they're gonna tough it out. 426 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: I imagine. 427 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Three and D player gets thrown around a lot in 428 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: the media. Hell, I did it yesterday when comparing uh 429 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: too many Kamara's sort of new contract extension and his 430 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: role to Jad McDaniels and Herb Jones and so on. 431 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: Most of the time. Again, I'm admitting this like we're 432 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: sort of stretching the definition. To me, though, Nie Smith, 433 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: that guy has proven he's a three and D guy. 434 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: You said it. Trey picks up guys full court, super aggressive. 435 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: He's always given the top defensive assignments. We saw it 436 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Be it. Brunson, he's got he's playing 437 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Giannis at times, he's played Garland like he can play 438 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: small guys, big guys. And then last year's postseason he 439 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: shot forty nine zero point two percent from three Sean 440 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: said in one of his tweets, the best by any 441 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: player in a single postseason with at least one hundred 442 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: and threes attempted in NBA history. That's the definition of 443 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: a three and D guy. So congrats to Nie Smith. 444 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: Well deserved it. Not bad, like you said, Trey, like 445 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: you're comparing it to other guys. That's good. Yeah, twenty 446 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: million for him. 447 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: Yep, you know, you're ablish guy who's done it in 448 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: the playoffs and done it in the finals. Shot fifty 449 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 4: three percent against the Knicks and that's stupid. 450 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 451 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: Also, he's the only guy in the league I think 452 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: that has just the bottom of the go tee. 453 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: He looks like he should be in the movie Swingers. 454 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: So it's like soul patch. 455 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, I sole patch is just like underneath your lip. 456 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: He just has just the bottom part. 457 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, no mustache, yeah, tell of a look. 458 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks like the guy that says this place 459 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: is dead anyways. 460 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Right before they leave. 461 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: Their thoughts on Nie Smith's the oh, I just love 462 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: watching paying a guy to start an NBA game twenty mil. 463 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: That's totally reasonable. I mean it really is, yes nowadays, Yeah, yeah, 464 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: twenty Yeah. 465 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: It does sound well, But they have literally the the 466 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: six guys who are their core guys, Siakam, Halibert and 467 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: Nemhar topping Nie Smith and McConnell together for at least 468 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: three more seasons, including this coming season, so it's the 469 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: same squad. Pritchard did the numbers extremely well. The next 470 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: guy up is Ben Matherin to see we'll see. Uh, 471 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: you know, he's just signed through this year. He's playing 472 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: for a contract it didn't extend him. 473 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: So here we are with Ben Mathern, who. 474 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: As we'll get to our predictions a little later. I'm 475 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: sure some people are predicting him as either most improved 476 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: or six man because he's gonna have the opportunity to 477 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: score without Haliburt on this team. 478 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: While the Rockets got new deals done for Jabari Smith 479 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Junior and Kevin Durant this summer, Tarry Eason ended up 480 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: as the odd man out. So we were wrong on 481 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: this one. We thought after the KD extension that you 482 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: know Tarr Easton was up next, we'd probably get it 483 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: done before the deadline, but nope, Shaum said both sides 484 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: could not bridge gaps on multiple fronts, and so Easan 485 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: will become a restricted free agent next offseason. TK. I 486 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: assume you were surprised because we were talking about it yesterday. 487 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: We thought it would probably happen. 488 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: But what do you think, Well, it's surprising just because 489 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant did take a discount, so it seemed like 490 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: that money was being saved for Tari Easton for this 491 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: to happen. But I think this is a combination of 492 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 4: a few things. Number One, Tarry Easton betting on himself. 493 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: If you follow anything he says on Twitter or that 494 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: his mom says on Twitter, this guy thinks he's a 495 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: multiple time All Star kind of waiting, maybe he is. 496 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: Maybe he's overvaluing himself a little bit similar to akaminga situation. 497 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: I think another thing you can throw into the mix 498 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: is that the Rockets, like we talked about yesterday, have 499 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 4: been negotiating with their guys, Like they got Shangoon at 500 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 4: a discount, they got KD at a discount, they got 501 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: Jabari Smith at a discount. Probably they said Tarr Easton, 502 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: we've got your number, we want to give you. That 503 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: number wasn't what Tarry Easton wanted, So he says, I'll 504 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: play out the season, assuming I can outplay it. Go 505 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: either get a restricted free agency deal somewhere or the 506 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: Rockets just decide not to match it. And I think 507 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 4: this is probably smart for the Rockets. Eesan is an 508 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: injury guy. Unfortunately, he played a eighty two games his 509 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: rookie year, but he was hurt in college, twenty two 510 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: games his second year, fifty seven games last season. So 511 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: let him play, let him stay healthy. The market can 512 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 4: dictate what he's worth, and then they can sign him 513 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: to a deal. Is a team going to pay him 514 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 4: more than like Christian Brown got more than twenty five 515 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: million dollars in the summer. I think that's unlikely, but 516 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: I think that's probably what Eesan and his crew are 517 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: looking for. 518 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: So this is just how it goes. Sometimes you can't 519 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: win every negotiation. I just I wonder for Eesan and 520 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: his team here making this decision. Again, we don't know 521 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: the exact numbers that the Rockets were offering, but like, 522 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: is there going to be enough of an opportunity in 523 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: this loaded Rockets team here for him to actually play 524 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: and shine and warrant a restricted offer to that they 525 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: men then maybe match or whatever like that would be 526 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: my one concern here. 527 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume there will be, just because of who 528 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: they've signed. They have a giant team. They need wing 529 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: players to get out there and play. I think he 530 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: has that capability. 531 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm and he's strong defensively, which we know DKA loves. 532 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: Ridiculously strong defensively. Financially, I think he looks. 533 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: At a couple things. 534 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: He sees Jabari Smith getting a monster extension and he 535 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: probably sees that money and says, I want something similar. 536 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: Or Fred van Vliet, his teammate who always said bet 537 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: on yourself, may be rubbed off on him to some degree. 538 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: But I thought it would happen considering what Raphael Stone 539 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: has been able to do financially. But then you start 540 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: to look at some of these contracts, like the Steven 541 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: Adams extension, the Clint Capella contract, the money has gone 542 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: to elsewhere with this roster. 543 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: And On and Thompson he needs an extension next summer. 544 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry Tarry Easton, but he's a much higher priority. 545 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: Well, that's part of it is that Tari Easton, he's 546 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: a good player, but he's kind of a luxury for 547 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: the Rockets, right Like they have four guys ahead him 548 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: in the pecking order. They signed Dorian Finney Smith, who 549 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: plays the same position as Tari Easton. It's very reasonable 550 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: he gets squeezed. 551 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rockets fan base is now saying, would you 552 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: rather have Jabari Smith or Tari Eason because of the 553 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: contract extension that Jabari Smith just got slightly different players. 554 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Jabari Smith incredible shooter, a little bit of a better 555 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: shooter than Tarisen Buttari is in a better perimeter defender, 556 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: and so yes, they've paid a lot for Jabari Smith 557 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: for a long term contract. Will Tarry Eason's could be 558 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: gone next season. 559 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: Or this season. He's a name to watch, Yeah, potentially 560 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: being moved if there is no opportunity and a team 561 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: like sees his potential. Guy, I was twelve and basically 562 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: twelve and seven last year, and he is a good 563 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: defensive player, So I could see a team wanting him, 564 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: like a team that's obviously rebuilding sees him as a piece. 565 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, not all that dissimilar to what happened with 566 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Cam Wentmore leaving. There's just so many guys. I had 567 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: it in my show notes when we were doing Friday's 568 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: podcast about which player will be traded, Like we were 569 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: talking key players, and I had Tarisen down, but I 570 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: was like, I thought he was going to sign this extension, 571 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: so I thought it's probably unlikely, but maybe not now, 572 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe a team will come knocking with them enough to 573 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: offer the Rockets. 574 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: It seemed like he was part of the Raphael Stone 575 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: in front office plan. See you later, Cam Whitmore. We're 576 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: moving on from Jalen Green. But in came Dorian Finney 577 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: Smith and yes he has been put down on the 578 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: pecking order. Bit. 579 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: Some more injuries for you guys. Injury Update two point zero. 580 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: We did injury Update one point oh yesterday, but here's 581 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: some names. The Bulls. Kobe White he is out at 582 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: least two more weeks with a calf injury. He hasn't 583 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: played at all, I believe in the preseason, so it's 584 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: been nursing that. So it's going to be into the 585 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: regular season here. He'll miss some games. Grizzlies new guard 586 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: Ty Jerome he's sidelined with a cast strain. That's a 587 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: huge blow for the grizz and okay SE's Jay and 588 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Williams j dubb He is out as he still rests 589 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: and heals his surgically repaired wrist. Not a surprise, we 590 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: knew this, but he's going to miss some time at 591 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: the start of the season. Wrist rest, wrist rest, Shaden 592 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: Sharp's shoulders, William's wrist rest, william No, yeah, yeah, yeah. 593 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Well it's somehow risks to man. 594 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: Any thoughts on either of these. TK Who's playing for 595 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: the Grizzlies. I guess it's the main question for me. 596 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: John Morant still a question mark if he's coming back. 597 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like he's gonna miss a ton of time. 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: Maybe he's ready for the season opener. But we know 599 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: Ty Jerome is down, we know Scottie Pippen Jr. Is 600 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: down for a couple of months at this point. So 601 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: it looks like Jah well all pencil him is their 602 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: starting point guard, even if it's you know, week two 603 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: of the season k c P Jalen Wells. Luckily, Jared 604 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: Jackson Jr. Is back and then Jock Landale is starting 605 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: while Zach Edie comes back from the surgery for laxity. 606 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: The ankle. That sounds not great. 607 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: It's like your ankle is just lazy, lazy, yazy. 608 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 609 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 4: I know, they're like, you've sprained your ankle so many times. 610 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 4: We just got to tighten it up. It's like tighter, 611 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: shoe tighter. But inside, they still got Santi al Dama, 612 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: their new draft pick, Cedric Coward, GG Jackson, Cam Spencer. 613 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: They still have bench guys, so I don't know, you know, 614 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: going through are over unders. We're talking about picks that 615 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: we regret. You look at Memphis, they were thirty nine 616 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: and a half on Fandel I'm like, that's still reasonable 617 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: even though they've lost two of their rotation players. At 618 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: the very least. They've got some centers who are out 619 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: that we've talked about. So the Grizzlies. Everybody gets hurt 620 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: on this team at all times. You go back and 621 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: look at some of their rosters over the past couple 622 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: of seasons, and they're like thirty names long. I don't 623 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: know what's going on in Memphis for people to be 624 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: hurt all the time, but it's piling up right now. 625 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: I guess you would they have guys injured at the 626 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: start of the season rather than the end. But They 627 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: then therefore have to make it to the end of 628 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: the season, and we'll see if that happens. 629 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you said, they do have a bunch of 630 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: bench players. They are really strong wing wise, but they 631 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: have lost a couple of ball handlers and a couple 632 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: of big men Brandon Clark as well, along with Zach 633 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Edie out long term here to start this season. Then 634 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: you got Pippin and Ty Drum who will be reevaluated 635 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: in four weeks, so he could be out long term. 636 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: But your gig, you're Jalen Wells, You're Cedric Cowards. There's 637 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: a bunch of wings to help out, so that thirty 638 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: nine and a half over under, it's rod It's doable, 639 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: I guess. But the point guard this position does hurt 640 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: that they've lost them because Scottie Pippen twelve weeks reevaluated. 641 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. 642 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: Ty Drum at least a month reevaluated, we'll see what happens. 643 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: And John Rant, Yes he's back now, but he just 644 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: did get hurt in training camp. He could get hurt 645 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: again and who is his backup now? 646 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: It's not good, not a great start. I can't remember 647 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: what you guys I was team under on I was over. 648 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I went over. Okay, I'm going to Instagram, dot com 649 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: slash no dunk sink here, so I'll start there for 650 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: the Grizz and these other ones. Yeah, a couple weeks 651 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: or at least couple of games for Kobe White and 652 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: j dubb oh case, he's not gonna be rushing to 653 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: get him back. Now take your time, man, We're good. 654 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: It is interesting what Jayleen Williams said after everybody found 655 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: out that he had was a thirty shots during the 656 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: playoffs last year just for pain tolerance, and now going 657 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: into this year, he basically says, my right wrist isn't 658 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: hasn't allowed me to shoot. 659 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I have to learn to shoot again. 660 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm summarizing in a different way, but he's 661 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: basically saying, like, I can't shoot right now. 662 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: So how long is it? How long is it? 663 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it's going to be a game. It 664 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: seems like it's gonna be a little longer. 665 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And again there's no rush. They're 666 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: gonna still win games and they're gonna like we want 667 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: you back when obviously it matters most. 668 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: And you took the under so that helped two and 669 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 3: a half under it, right, I'm only cheering for injury. 670 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: I know it. 671 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I love Jaol. He's one of my favorite players, so 672 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: hopefully gets back soon. 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If you're 704 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: joining us live on YouTube, hit the like button, subscribe, 705 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews, and the stream 706 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: team here. I see voting on a poll that we 707 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: had up. We're doing all that contract extension. Talk a 708 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: little what you got when it comes to three players 709 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: that were name dropped and have signed deals this summer 710 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: or just the last day. Christian Brown, Dyson Daniels, and 711 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: Josh Giddy. Who you got from the what you got? 712 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: And right now Dyson Daniels with fifty three percent of 713 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: the vote. But it's still live. Anything could happen. Wow, 714 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels has taken the cake. Huh. 715 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little surprised by that. You thought it 716 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: would be who I thought it would be, Christian Brown? 717 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, Dan is definitely the highlight leader, just in 718 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: terms of narratives out of all these guys You're told. 719 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: Me you're not You're undervaluing. 720 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: Josh Giddy making a half court shot to beat the 721 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Lakers to lose Cooper Flag in the draft lottery, 722 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: no Number one play of the year according to the 723 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: NBA's YouTube page last year. 724 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: Excuse me, people thought the biggest numbers for sure, Yes, 725 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: he does. 726 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 4: He's the only one of these guys that could potentially 727 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 4: be an All Star, I would say. 728 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: This season or just moving forward in their careers, moving 729 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: forward in their careers. Yeah, actually because he puts up 730 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the numbers. 731 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the rape barrier thief leads those YouTube headlines 732 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: and those stories, just the things. He ended a game, 733 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: stealing it from Dearren Fox. It ain't a half court 734 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: shot against the Los Angeles Lakers, but it's an important play. 735 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm biased just because I'm in Atlanta. 736 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: I think I think they were sexier, leading the league 737 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: in deflections and steals three per game. So, yeah, who 738 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: takes more of the headlines, more of the stories. It's 739 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: not Christian Brown. No, it's not Christian although. 740 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always good for a huge monster poster or two. 741 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: He'll have one or two of those. But no, not him. 742 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: That's a funny question though, both. This is why it's 743 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: a good poll. They're all around there. It's no wrong 744 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: end exactly. 745 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: I think they should all be at about thirty three percent. 746 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: You can't really make the case. 747 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: For any of them. 748 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: And also kind of funny Daniels and Giddy. That's the 749 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 4: Australian national team backcourt. 750 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right, Christian Brown. 751 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: We got one guy who can only play offense and 752 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 4: one guy that can only play defense. 753 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: Put them together again. Just a super player when you 754 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: put them together. Okay, let's get to some drafting bold predictions. Yeah, 755 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: after weeks of recording, NBA season preview pods. We're officially 756 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: all prognosticated out at least when it comes to ours. 757 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I think you know. We've done over unders, we've done 758 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: the award predictions, we've ranked teams by tiers, we've done 759 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: the burning questions. Today we turn it over to you. 760 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: We're drafting your best predictions. That's right. We asked our 761 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: paid subscribers on substack to look into their crystal balls 762 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: and to be brave and be ridiculous and be bold 763 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to your predictions. The people came through 764 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: shout out to everybody on substack, and so we're gonna 765 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: draft our favorite one. So we're all we're all pulling 766 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: from the same comments section of that post on substack. 767 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: How many rounds do you want to do? Four? Five? Yes, okay, 768 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: we'll see how I go. Five. Here's what we're doing, tasks. 769 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: You're just going to start this one I started the 770 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: last draft we did. We'll go you first, TRACEC and 771 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: myself third. Will just keep it going around the horn. 772 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: I will make our picks again. These are your predictions 773 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: and we'll talk them out. So task you of the 774 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: number one pick in the drafting bold predictions. 775 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: I saw this one and I couldn't help but jump 776 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: in on it. Steph Curry smashes the three point record 777 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: in one game. 778 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: This is bold. 779 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: Eighteen threes enrue to a sixty point game from Travis. 780 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, the record it's fourteen, eighteen. 781 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Would be ridiculous. 782 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: Wow. 783 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm more of the idea that Steph goes 784 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: and gets this record for himself rather than the eighteen 785 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: over the current fourteen. I'd be fine with the fifteen. 786 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: That'd be a fantastic But still, I just like this 787 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: idea that Steph it just takes this record that belongs 788 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: to him. You can't help but think of twenty twenty 789 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: four in the Olympics in the finals he was doing 790 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: to end that game and thinking forty eight minutes with 791 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: Al Horford addish to you as you run circles around 792 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: the other team. 793 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: It makes sense. So you just want one stuff. Courreer 794 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: retires for him to have this record, that only feels right. 795 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: I mean I would agree with you. Yes, Clay Clay 796 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: has it fourteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So 797 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: it's eighteen from Travis. O here, that's bold, that's right, 798 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: that's probably ridiculous. Yeah, that's why it works. That's fifteen. 799 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean he hit didn't he have two games where 800 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: hit twelve last year? 801 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he could do it, right, he's second, He's second 802 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: on the leader list, right, Yeah. 803 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean the thing is he could do it. It's 804 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: like just whether they really wanted to do it, you know, 805 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: like himself, his teammates and Steve Kerr and the coach 806 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: ex Like Steph Curry could have a game where shot 807 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: forty five threes. Yeah, it would never be like man 808 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: probably hit eighty two. But it's fine, Like of course 809 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: he could get there would be funny to see how 810 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: the defense would try and react to that. 811 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, I love it isn't retiring this season, 812 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: so I don't know if it's like Kobe going for 813 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: sixty whereass shape? Yeah, in Kobe's last game where it 814 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: was just Kobe, this is your ball, sir, go get it. 815 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: This is Steph is still as a couple of years left, 816 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: but still just do it now again without Horford. Look literally, 817 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 2: it's Al Horford, Jimmy and Draymond. Just give him the ball. 818 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how many he has to shoot, 819 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: you know. 820 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 4: I would guess at least twenty plus yea yeah, and 821 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 4: to hit fifteen, Yeah, I'll hit fifteen yeah. 822 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Sure. 823 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 4: So thirty three times in NBA history a player has 824 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 4: taken twenty or more threes, and you know, just looking 825 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: at Basketball Reference, it looks like Curry has done it 826 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: the most amount of times. No surprise. I guess James 827 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: Harden is in the mix as well. It would just 828 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 4: have to be Seth deciding I want to go get 829 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 4: the record. But playing with Jimmy, Draymond, and now Horford 830 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 4: is the way to do it because those guys are 831 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 4: very much like we can feed the hot hand and 832 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: we understand the system is anytime Steph is open, get 833 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: him the ball. 834 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. You saw that with Jimmy last year. 835 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 4: Was like fit right in at the pass it and 836 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: suddenly just hand it right back to him because you 837 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 4: fall asleep for a half a second. 838 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: That'd be cool to see. I'm with you. I hope 839 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curray has every three point record when he retires. 840 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, that one is off the board. Trey, 841 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: you have the next pick here. This might be controversial. 842 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take three predictions in one God yes, yeah, 843 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 4: this is a Alfie Muckle and Josh Shanes All said 844 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 4: something similar. Alfie says Victor Webbin Yama will not only 845 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 4: not a coveted five by five, He's gonna do it twice. 846 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 4: Muckle says Evan Mobley ends the season at the head 847 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 4: of the MVP table with a repeat DPOY Award and 848 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 4: the MIP Player Award. 849 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: That would be amazing. 850 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: He also adds what I'm mentioning here he records a 851 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: five by five before Wemby, and Josh said Flag and 852 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 4: Wemby will both record a five by five in the 853 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 4: third MAVs versus Spurs match up this season, which is 854 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 4: February seventh in San Antonio. 855 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I will be locked in. He's calling a shot for 856 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: the game. He is calling a shot for the game. 857 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 4: But the reason I take this with my first pick 858 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: is we only talked about Wemby as a guy who 859 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 4: could get a five by five and will he do it? 860 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 4: We all assume, yeah, he will do it. The fan 861 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 4: duel Odds kind of leaned that way as well. But 862 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: That's what I'm wondering, is what other players could do 863 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 4: a five by five. Nurkic has one, Jamal Tinsley has one. 864 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: It happens with other dudes. I think Flag is a 865 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: reasonable bet on that. You know, he's a seems to 866 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 4: be a guy who. 867 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Can fill up the box score. Evan Mobley I think 868 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: as well. 869 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised how many five assists games 870 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: he had, most of them coming last season as he 871 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 4: became a bigger part of the Cavs offense, he took 872 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 4: a step forward on the offensive end as well. 873 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: Other guys that would throw in the mix. 874 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 4: Jada I think is a five by five candidate, Scottie 875 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 4: Barnes and Johannest because that guy does everything. 876 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Dyson Daniels. Yeah, you know, he'd have 877 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: to get some of those those like steel blocks, you know, 878 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: which was it? Yeah, right, right right, and then maybe 879 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: another one where it's like a bang bang block because 880 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: he just happens to get a guy inside. The blocks 881 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: will be tough for him. He had four at his 882 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: high last night. Okay, okay, okay, I like the guys 883 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: you named, Yeah, Scottie honest, Okay, So who goes first? 884 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: So you're just taking I like that you're taking the 885 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: five by five. Yeah, prognostication, yeah, off the board. Okay, 886 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: anyone else to add to the five by five potential 887 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: call your shot. Did you say Anthony Davis. I didn't 888 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: say it. 889 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: He has one ys one use of nurkicas one. 890 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a big part of that shen Goon. Yeah. 891 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: I think the blocks would maybe be the hardest part 892 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, probably, Yeah, because he's got active hands, 893 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: so I could see the steals being easier he's got obviously. 894 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 4: Hey, if I look at your basketball reference in your 895 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 4: career high steals and blocks as five, you're in the 896 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: mix for me. 897 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: Okay, just a ball coming together on one night. Okay, 898 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: I love it all right. I have the next pick 899 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: here in the first round. When it comes to your 900 00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: bold predictions, I'm gonna go with Rookie of the Year 901 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: prediction from Rames VJ. Edgecombe will lead all rookies in 902 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: scoring and win Rookie of the Year over Cooper flag 903 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: due to his larger role on an injury plagued seventy 904 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: six ers roster. Okay, here's his thinking. Dallas has one of, 905 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: if not maybe the deepest team in the league when 906 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: it comes to bigs, especially which could ultimately hurt Cooper's 907 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: numbers and his ranking on the Rookie of the Year 908 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: Big board. I like this. Yeah, this is bold. Everybody's 909 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: thinking Cooper Flag is gonna win it. I mean, we 910 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: all picked him when it came to our predictions. I 911 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: get it. He's gonna be good, he's gonna be on 912 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: decent team. He's going to fill up the box score. 913 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: But I'm a huge VJ. Edgecomb fan. He's going to 914 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: start and this team is perpetually injured on the sixers, 915 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: So maybe just gets a bunch of opportunity and puts 916 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: up monster numbers and if embiads healthy and stuff like that, 917 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe they're not brutal. I like it. I like it, 918 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: so I'll take that out my first pick. 919 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: It's a very capable player will have the opportunity. It 920 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: sure feels like in Philadelphia makes sense. And everybody picking Cooper, 921 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: you got to pick something else. The Dylan Harper option 922 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 2: is also a decent option. 923 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: Sure, Ace Bailey, if you're talking scoring, you could score 924 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot. He could do. 925 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: We care if the Utah Jazz have a poor record, No, it. 926 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter none. When does it ever matter? For Rooki 927 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: year that matters something. Maybe if there's a race that 928 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, these guys are almost identical. But 929 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: this team's won twenty more. I guess then that's got 930 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: to be the last thing you care about for regular year. 931 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: In my opinion, they're the best rookies because they go 932 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: to the shittiest teams generally. I know the Maths are 933 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: an exception jumping all the way up to number one, 934 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: but I'll take edge. That's a good one. 935 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: Okay, second round, here we go. I'm a definitely didn't 936 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: know if that was coming round. Ye, That's why I 937 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: was thinking. I'm interested in the Phoenix Suns. I've started 938 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 3: to jump on the train a little bit, not only 939 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 3: from everyone's predictions out there, but just from the Internet 940 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 3: loving the Phoenix Suns potential here. So I went with 941 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: espo's prediction Homer. Yeah, there's some Homers out there. I 942 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: didn't repeat yours from just Also, Ramez also made a 943 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: Phoenix Sun's prediction, so I got him out here and 944 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: went with espos the Sons will win more games than 945 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 3: last year, surprise the NBA, and make the play in 946 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: with Booker being the second team All NBA. 947 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 2: All good, all good, and there's there's some potential there 948 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: that Jordanott creates a locker room along with Dylan Brooks 949 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: and those dogs in there to win some games playing 950 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: is a very very, very very bold prediction. 951 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: It's a lofty goal in the West, but to. 952 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: Finish tenth out of fifteen teams in the Western Conference. 953 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 2: I know it doesn't sound very bold when you say 954 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: it that way, but at the same time, you got 955 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 2: to be better than a team like. 956 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: The Grizzlies, the Spurs. 957 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: Maybe the Spurs maybe or the Bennan who's dropping down there. 958 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 2: It could be a bad Clippers season, you never know, 959 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: so that making the plan would be a huge, huge accomplishment. 960 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: And listen, I'm starting to buy into the camaraderie, the 961 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: chemistry in there, because I think Devin Booker is a 962 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: hungry leader this season. After last year he was asked 963 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: what he could improve on from last year. He said, everything, 964 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 2: Just see us last year. We stuck. 965 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: So there's that part. 966 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: I mean, thirty six and forty six is what they 967 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 2: were last year, ye if I'm not mistaken, So they 968 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 2: would have to win high thirties to make the plan. 969 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: I had this one on my list here to draft 970 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: from because I'm intrigued too. I took the over when 971 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: we did our over unders with the Suns I think, Yeah, 972 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: obviously a whole new makeup to this team, like just 973 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: expectations completely lower too. Maybe they surprise people on any 974 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: given night. They do have some dogs. Devin Booker is 975 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: still good new coach. You know, it was like people 976 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: are refreshed. Maybe I could see them winning just over 977 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: thirty six. 978 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's not a great season. Yeah, they can 979 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: easily win thirty nine games and get into the tenth scene. 980 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 4: That's what the Mavericks did last year. Like, I mean, 981 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 4: the Western Conference is better, but an under five hundred 982 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 4: team still made it into the play in tournament. So 983 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 4: I you know that it's not about wins and losses 984 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 4: this year for Phoenix about successes. And I think that 985 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 4: would be a mild success if they're better than last year, 986 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 4: even though the names on paper look like a talent downgrade. 987 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 4: If you're playing an even one postseason basketball game better 988 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 4: than it went last year. 989 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: As long as there's a smile on your face, I think. 990 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if they finished thirty six and forty six, 991 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: it's a better season than last season. 992 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: Just what I think they need one more win thirty 993 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: seven forty five. I'm in on that that's better. 994 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 2: The expectations are extremely low. 995 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: So Tray, you're up next. 996 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go to Simon here who said 997 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson will have a twenty assist game. 998 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: I love it. I wanted this one like it. That's good. 999 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: How many twenty assist games were there in the NBA 1000 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: last season? Were? No? There was more? There was more, 1001 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: there was Jokic got one at the end of the season. 1002 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: There we go, Trey Young probably got one last year. 1003 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: Three damn twenty two, twenty and twenty. There's a weird one. 1004 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 4: There is a really weird like I'll tell you there 1005 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 4: were six total twenty assist games last season. You got Jokic, 1006 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 4: you got three trays. There's a guy who had one. 1007 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 4: That's right, twenty assist and then there's the weird guy. 1008 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: I got it, Alfred Peyton. That's right. Nicely does it early? Yeah, Yes, 1009 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: we talked him. I don't remember exactly what time. I think. Yeah, 1010 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: he had a twenty one assist game. He just came 1011 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: back out of nowhere. 1012 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 4: They're like, you're from Louisiana, come play first. Yeah, and 1013 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 4: he had twenty one assists. So if he can do it, 1014 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 4: if Usuf Nurkic can have a five by five. Jalen 1015 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 4: Brunston can have a twenty assist game. His career high 1016 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 4: and assists is seventeen. Now. The interesting part of this 1017 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 4: is that, by all accounts, the Mike Brown system is 1018 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 4: going to be more egalitarian than the Tom Thibodeaux system. 1019 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 4: Bibodo Basketball was, we give Jalen Brown the ball, he 1020 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 4: dribbles it for twenty seconds, it either takes a fade 1021 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 4: away or find somebody for an assist. That's a good 1022 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 4: way to goose your numbers. So maybe playing for Mike 1023 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 4: Brown means less on ball opportunities for Jalen Brunson, but 1024 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 4: maybe it also means better offense in general, which could 1025 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 4: lead to assists for him. The Knicks are a good 1026 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 4: enough team outside of Brunson at converting his passes that 1027 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 4: I think it's reasonable he gets to twenty assist. 1028 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: I just personally would bet against it. Having a twenty 1029 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: assist a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah, 1030 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: I like it, though I had it on my list 1031 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: here to get draft as well. 1032 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 2: I do wonder what Jalen Brunson will become under Mike Brown, 1033 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: because it is supposed to be more of a hey, 1034 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 2: get off the ball, Mike Brown working under Steve Kerr, 1035 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: just seeing. 1036 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: What they did. 1037 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: That being said, Brunson did take a step back last 1038 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 2: year after he was an MVP candidate. The year before 1039 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: he took three feet her shots. Last year he was 1040 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 2: off the ball a little bit more. How much can 1041 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: Mike Brown get this guy to move off the ball? 1042 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure John Brunson is willing to do it. So 1043 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: it is interesting. Twenty sis, a lot of sis. I'm 1044 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 2: surprised that we had six games, you said. 1045 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: He said, Trey Hung did it three times. Yeah. Wow, wow, 1046 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: that's amazing. All right, I have the last pick here 1047 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: in the second round. I'm gonna go to the Boston 1048 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: Celtics for this one. I'm going a bit of a 1049 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: crazy one, Dan lamb in our sub stack, he said. 1050 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: Quote the Celtics collapse and Joe Mizzoula goes insane. Think 1051 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: Martin Sheen from Apocalypse. Now the NBA has to step 1052 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: in for player safety after a press conference where Missoula 1053 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: slices his hand open and spreads his blood on the table. 1054 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: I like it, Dan, I like it. I can see 1055 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: it with crazy Joe trying to send some sort of 1056 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: message here him going nuts because even the Celtics are 1057 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: struggling but collapse. Look, it's obviously a stretch. I did 1058 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: take the under I am one of these guys. Think 1059 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: they might struggle more than some do. Maybe they're still good. 1060 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: We have hell, we have some predictions where it's like 1061 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: the Celtics are going to be awesome, maybe we'll get 1062 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: to them, maybe we'll get drafted. But I love the 1063 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: idea of Joe Mazzula just going insane because they're struggling. 1064 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, FanDuel has minus two fifty. Joe Mizula most likely 1065 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 4: coach to bleed at a press conference. Doug Christy second 1066 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 4: and Rick Carlisle there, Wow, yeah, wow, surprising, but not 1067 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 4: surprising that Missoula would be the leader. No, no, no, no, 1068 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 4: He's they played that pickup game against the beat writers, 1069 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 4: and afterwards he said, I don't want a stage for 1070 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 4: my press conferences, so we can all be eye to 1071 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 4: eye together, and we're gonna do it again. He's like, 1072 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 4: we're going to keep playing against each other. We're going 1073 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 4: to keep beating you, beating you, beating you every time. 1074 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 4: They'll never take it easy on the on the beat writers. 1075 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 4: This guy's so crazy, man, He's just a good character. 1076 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,439 Speaker 1: To have in the leader. 1077 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, we gotta just watch I want 1078 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 2: to watch NBA games, but I also just want to 1079 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 2: watch coaches versus the media throughout. 1080 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of talk of one happening with 1081 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: the Raptors. I saw over the last little bit. 1082 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 2: Nuggets are going to do it, are officially doing it. Yeah, 1083 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: our man Will Lou asked Darko Ryakovich about it. Darko said, yeah, 1084 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: I'm up for it, and Darko said, you think you 1085 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: can guard me? Literally got into it. 1086 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: You can see they're psychos. Yeah, they're competitive. I don't know. 1087 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. If I call a coach a psycho, 1088 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: I would call them more psycho than most people. The thirty. 1089 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: The thirty coaches, I mean, we can rank them by 1090 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: psycho level. Joe Mozula easily. 1091 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: You got to be a psycho to take that job. 1092 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: Let alone be in an NBA and most of them 1093 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: are NBA former NBA players or at least college athletes. 1094 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: They're all psycho, dude, They're all competitive, psychotic, crazy people. 1095 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: In the chess coach the Chillis coach is always Don Nelson, 1096 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: but who's the chillis Nick Nurse has the guitar. He's 1097 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: not very chill. I don't know. You throw on the side. 1098 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: He needs the guitar. That's his therapy. That's a great point. Yeah, yeah, intense. 1099 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: Mike Brown, he's pretty wild though. He's good for like 1100 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: a hilarious press conference every single year. 1101 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's said Quinn Snyder seems like no, 1102 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 2: no way, my god, guys. 1103 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll think chillis coach. So but okay, so we're 1104 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: gonna get these media versus these coaches and assistant coaches games. 1105 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: That's great until somebody inevitably tears their a c L 1106 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: or achilles, either from the media or maybe one of 1107 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: these coaches, and that it's like, well, that's it for that. 1108 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,959 Speaker 2: Do you think it's a concern if a media member 1109 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 2: tears a clan. 1110 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 1: And Andrew slept last year playing around with his uh sons, Right, yeah, 1111 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: you got to sign a waiver before you start playing. Yeah, 1112 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: if you tear your a c L. No, I thought 1113 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: what about if the coaches, though good coaches, more of 1114 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, 1115 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: you know it's going to make travel a little more difficult. 1116 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't there a coach that had like a bad injury 1117 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: last year and they had the Well Chris Finch was 1118 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: on that. That's what it was. Yeah, hilarious, dangerous man. 1119 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: They're like they have like back him up from the sideline. Yeah, 1120 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: you had to sit the second road. Yeah, so you 1121 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: can get like bumped into Yeah, okay, where are we 1122 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: we are at the start of the third round tasks? 1123 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: You have the board. 1124 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to join the club of drafting some odd 1125 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: ones here. This one from Jamie. The NBA Cup is 1126 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: so ignored that the finals never happened and no one notices. 1127 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: Get out of here, Jamie. We will not let that happen. 1128 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be there, maybe not. We'll see. But yeah, 1129 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: it's so Jamie not a fan. 1130 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 2: I understand Jamie's not a fan because the NBA Cup 1131 00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 2: has been anointed is important. I understand that just out 1132 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 2: of nowhere, as Adam Silver has created it. That being said, 1133 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going anywhere. Number one, I think 1134 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 2: people will still talk about I think Adam Silver did 1135 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: a good job of placing something in the season where 1136 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: there is more eyeballs on different leagues. Prior to Christmas here, 1137 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 2: so I think it does make sense. Although I hear 1138 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 2: what Jamie is saying, there's some there's some tension out there. 1139 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait to see me a 1140 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: Cups starting even earlier than normal now, starting in October, 1141 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: starting Matt early. Yeah, we have Cup games at the 1142 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: end of October, right like the final week of October. 1143 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 4: So let's get it right to it. I haven't seen 1144 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 4: the courts yet though, No, we had Stripe's about circles. 1145 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 4: What shape is next? 1146 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: We were hoping triangles last designed by Matt Austin himself, 1147 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: Doode doodle mode in his triangles. Yeah. 1148 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 2: We have seen designer Jeff Hamilton somewhere though. Boy, let's 1149 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 2: see what's up to Yeah, yeah, he is somewhere. 1150 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember where. 1151 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what he's specifically up to, but I 1152 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 4: guarantee he's designing a leather jacket. Wherever he is, he's 1153 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 4: putting a lot of patches on it, and he's figuring 1154 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 4: out a way to get it to These guys for 1155 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 4: the NBA Cup. Top six in odds according to fan Duel, 1156 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: not really that surprising. The top five thunder Nicks, Calves 1157 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 4: Nuggets magic okay, number five at plus eleven hundred, and 1158 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 4: then the Atlanta Hawks plus thirteen hundred, number six in 1159 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,320 Speaker 4: NBA Cup odds. 1160 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, it have usually been veteran teams that win this. 1161 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: It was Lakers first, it was Bucks last year. 1162 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 4: Both teams decided we are not celebrating after this, we 1163 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 4: got to take it seriously. Well, wait, I think it's 1164 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 4: the other way around. Didn't the Lakers celebrate and then 1165 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 4: they had a bad season. 1166 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: And then they so? 1167 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 4: Then the Bucks like, we are not celebrating, and then 1168 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 4: after that they lost in the first round of the 1169 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 4: playoffs as well. 1170 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,439 Speaker 2: So what are the odds on the Clippers and team 1171 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 2: they both struggled immediately after winning the NBA Cup. 1172 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: Hey, Clippers plus twenty five hundred, twenty five to one. 1173 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 1: There you go, that's my NBA Cup champion. Perfect. Warriors 1174 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: are up there too. They're an older team. Yeah, I wouldn't. 1175 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: I think those are both solid bets. 1176 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, those old guys are not partying in Vegas. Well, 1177 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 2: the younger guys might. 1178 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, all right, and the Cup is ignored drafted 1179 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: here in our bold prediction. We respect the cup here. 1180 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: We sure knew, all right, Trey where you're going. 1181 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm going with die, mister Bob, remember that, Remember tweeted 1182 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 4: the week's shout outs. 1183 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: Yes we are balls. What are you up to? Big Progoda. 1184 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,959 Speaker 1: We gotta find some of these. 1185 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 4: Guys because some of them have made their way to 1186 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 4: our substack no dunkstat substack dot com. 1187 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: I like it. 1188 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 4: What die, mister bonds as here. Steph Castle is going 1189 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 4: to have the highest dunk. 1190 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: Score this year. Okay, first off, we're not calling them 1191 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: Steph Steph Castle. 1192 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: That's wrong with that. 1193 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: No, we have a Steph. He's the greatest shooter of 1194 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: all time. I can't do it. I'm saying no right now, 1195 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of it. My name's Castle too. Yeah, 1196 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: and he's got a cool name overall. Yeah. No, I 1197 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: don't like Steph Castle. I'm saying it. Okay, yeah, falling Castle, Yeah, Stefan. 1198 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: But I liked the cretict st highest dunk score. 1199 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 4: The thing I like about Steph Castle's dunk scores He's 1200 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 4: a two foot jumper. 1201 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: He's always a two foot jumper. 1202 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 4: He started putting together a real nice dunk real heading 1203 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 4: into the contest last year. Skeets and JD I know 1204 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 4: you saw the one against the Pacers over in Paris. 1205 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 4: He had a big timer, so he probably actually was 1206 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 4: probably I don't know, he probably had something in the 1207 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 4: top ten I would imagine from last year. But yeah, 1208 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 4: he's a little bit of an underrated dunker, I think, 1209 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 4: and he's kind of gotten lost in the shuffle. I 1210 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 4: feel like with the San Antonio Spurs, kind of a 1211 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 4: weird situation with Stefan Castle in that they drafted him 1212 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,919 Speaker 4: last year. All the talk was, I'm a point guard, 1213 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 4: I'm a point guard, I'm a point guard. Than they 1214 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 4: traded for a point guard, then he won Rookie of 1215 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 4: the Year, and then they drafted another point guard. Now 1216 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, how does this guy necessarily fit 1217 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 4: on the team Because he's a talented guy, Maybe he 1218 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 4: doesn't get drafted as high if he he's in a 1219 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 4: more well regarded draft like twenty twenty five was. But 1220 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 4: he still seems like an important piece. But I just 1221 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 4: wonder if he's a long term core guy for San Antonio. 1222 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 4: I think they're still in the find out phase, but 1223 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 4: you can see him getting lost in the shuffle. I 1224 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 4: think with Fox signing the gigantic contract, they're going to 1225 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 4: be invested in Harper. 1226 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: He looks really good as well. How does Castle fit 1227 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: into the mix for san Antonio. I think it's a 1228 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: good question. Yep. Yeah. 1229 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: After last year watching him, he seemed like he was 1230 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: okay being a secondary playmaker and that's what he excelled at. 1231 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 2: He wasn't necessarily point guard. Now you draft Dan Harper 1232 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 2: to go along with Iaron Fox. 1233 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: I think in theory, I think it works. But is 1234 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: he cool with that? 1235 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 2: And san Antonio make sure everyone is cool with that? 1236 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 2: So I think it could work very well. 1237 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: Good news for your actual prediction here from Die mist Bond. 1238 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: I believe Castle already eclipsed one hundred on it dunk 1239 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason, Tray Herbie, they did dunk score in 1240 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: the preseason. 1241 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 4: No. 1242 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: I got my eye on it and it was a huge, 1243 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: huge dunk. And you're right that the jumping off two 1244 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: feet obviously because of his build and his size. I 1245 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: forget who was on, but it was. It was nasty, 1246 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: So this could be true. Cool always gonna be tough 1247 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: to beat. I think, like a Shaden Sharp Anthony Edward's 1248 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: always good for a monster dunker two those other guys, 1249 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: but he'll be in the mixed castle good prediction, had 1250 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: it one the list. Yeah. 1251 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 2: I wonder if he goes back into the Dunk Contest 1252 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 2: this year he's that good. 1253 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Probably not. I he was good, he was fine. Yeah. 1254 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I just say probably not, because most guys are like, look, 1255 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I did it, man, I don't want to do it again. 1256 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Mac McClung won the Dunk Contest again last year, that's right. 1257 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then he was on your bowls for 1258 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: like forty five minutes and then he was waived. Yeah. Yeah, 1259 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see him in the Dunk 1260 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: Contest again when he gets obviously he's got a two 1261 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: way contract roster. All right, my pick here in the 1262 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: third round for your predictions, I'm going with Dylan Horner, 1263 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: who said, quote Cole Anthony explosion. He'll average eighteen and 1264 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: six a game, and he's gonna win sixth Man and 1265 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Most Improved. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dylan. I sort of almost 1266 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: with you until you threw out both awards. Just pick 1267 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: one of the awards or the other, you know, six 1268 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: man or MIP. But anyway, I like it. Cole Anthony. 1269 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: You keep talking about Giannis loves it. He does. There's 1270 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a potential chance. I mean, they got other 1271 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: guys that they're gonna be starting and all that. Oh yeah, 1272 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: but you never know because of injury. He's got some 1273 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: years unders, you know, in his career here, he knows 1274 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: he's had moments where he's had monster monster performances and 1275 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: he is good. But can you string it together over 1276 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: eighty two games? I don't mind it, though this is 1277 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: far fetched. Eighteen and six would be an amazing season. 1278 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it seems like they're gonna push Kevin 1279 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Porter Junior to play a lot of minutes at the 1280 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 2: starting point guard spot. It seems like Ryan Rollins is 1281 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: going to take a lot of minutes. So how many 1282 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 2: does Cole Anthony get? Eighteen six? As nuts, it's big. 1283 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 2: But then you start to hear something the talk going 1284 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 2: around the podcast world, the media world, Orderinus and friends 1285 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 2: saying that the Milwaukee Buck's got to be a top 1286 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 2: three team in Eastern Conference. They got to be a 1287 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 2: top three team. There's no doubt they've got Giannis. Now, 1288 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 2: they don't go out name any of their point guards 1289 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: or any of their wings when they when they do 1290 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: this analysis, but Giannis along with Miles Turner, I mean 1291 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 2: they don't. They don't mention the Orlando Magic or the 1292 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons or anybody who could be third. It's the 1293 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Knicks Caws. And then people see Giannison that he's going 1294 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 2: to do well. Now he could make call Anthony a 1295 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: good player. But Cole Anthony starting, I'm not even sure 1296 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 2: if he's going to even smell a starting role on 1297 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:31,439 Speaker 2: that team. 1298 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, he better not. I need him to win six 1299 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Man of the Year. Cole Anthony explosion, one more round, 1300 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: one more run, more round. When it comes to bold predictions, 1301 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: here we go, jad Listen. 1302 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't think this is all that bold. I think 1303 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 2: this is legitimate. That Luca could average thirty five, ten 1304 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: and ten. 1305 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: That's it. Huevos Boncheros coming out with that, Wow, that's 1306 01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: a great fantasy basketball. That's amazing. I was also very excited. Yeah, 1307 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: I was excited. Just yes, say that name. Thirty five 1308 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: ten and that's a lot of points. 1309 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: That's a fricking lot of points. I do think he 1310 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 2: leads the league in scoring. I don't think there's a 1311 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 2: question about that. About thirty five ten ten is giant. 1312 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 2: I mean, how close has he gotten He's gotten to 1313 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 2: thirty three point nine, nine point eight, nine point two. 1314 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 2: Pretty good? Yeah, oh god, yeah, so good. He could 1315 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 2: get close and so whoeves Monchiro. 1316 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. That's a good one. 1317 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 4: The greater part of Luca's game is rebounding, and they 1318 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 4: need him to rebound, so maybe I kind of think 1319 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 4: ten boards is the hardest thing for him to get to. 1320 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 4: I think it's more reasonably. We average is thirty five 1321 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 4: a game. But there's talent on the Lakers. They got 1322 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 4: Lebron James there. Yeah, he's not playing right now. 1323 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's why I think the points are reasonable 1324 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 3: here to start the season. 1325 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,439 Speaker 2: Austin Reevez looks good. Gabe looks good, but he's gonna 1326 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: shoot as much as he wants. But you're right, the board, 1327 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 2: it seemed to be the toughest part because you should 1328 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: be able to average ten dimes. 1329 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, what's your final prediction from the people out 1330 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: there on substack? 1331 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 4: Tomer writes in and says, seventy five wedgies this season. 1332 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 4: Oh that's a number on plus fifty thousand on fand wow, 1333 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 4: to go over seventy five weggies last year forty eight 1334 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 4: weggies And I'm sad to report, it's been one hundred 1335 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 4: and seventy nine days since our last Weggie. We had 1336 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 4: John Conchart get one in the first round of the playoffs. 1337 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then no more after that. 1338 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 4: So it's been almost six whole months since we've seen 1339 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,479 Speaker 4: a Weggie up or down on getting a Weggie Tonight 1340 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 4: on NBA Opening Night on NVC cock. 1341 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: Oh on the cock. Who's calling the game tonight? Good question. 1342 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: We just played who they worked for and I already 1343 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: forget Yeah, jump Treka and Reggie Miller is on one 1344 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 1: of the games. Yeah, and and Jamal Crawford. I think 1345 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: that's that's okay Booth, I think I don't know about 1346 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the other game, but Weggie tonight, I'm gonna say no. 1347 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, if we're gonna get to seventy five, we got 1348 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: to start. 1349 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Yes, we do. 1350 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 4: The Lake, Okay, Mike Tarika, Reggie Miller, Jamal Crawford on 1351 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 4: the early game late game is Noah Eagle, Grant Hill 1352 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 4: and Ashley Shahamadi. Okay, So I hope if it happens, 1353 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 4: it's in game two to see if Noah Eagle continues 1354 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 4: the family tradition of beingies and Grant Hill he does Loveggies. 1355 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I'm a little worried about Tarico on 1356 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: the call with Weggies. I don't know what to expect. 1357 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Great point, never had to say it, So we'll find out. 1358 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully we find out and see what he does. All right. 1359 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: I have the final pick here. I'm gonna make a 1360 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: weird one because I'm really going against another prediction already 1361 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: made because I talked about the Celtics collapsing and Joe 1362 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Missoulaga nuts. So let me let me completely swerve MTR 1363 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: saying the Celtics are gonna make sixteen hundred three pointers 1364 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and they're gonna win the East. NBA casuals. Learn who 1365 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: Derek White and Peyton Pritchard are. Okay, there's been other Uh, 1366 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: we had some other predictions about the Celtics, like still 1367 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: being good and Jason Tatum comes back and leads them 1368 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: to like a finals run or something like that. I 1369 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: like that as well, so let's just lump those together. 1370 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,919 Speaker 1: So again, this is the opposite side of the coin 1371 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: here when it comes to the Celtics. I generally don't 1372 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: believe this. I think it's gonna be a bit of 1373 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: a down year. I think they might even make some 1374 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: business decisions when it comes to maybe a bit of 1375 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: a rough season, but hey, why not casuals. Do casuals 1376 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: know who Derek White and Peyton Pritchard are? I guess not. 1377 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: They probably don't. Nah, they will. Now one of those 1378 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: guys will be an All Star. Let's say here. 1379 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 4: They both got drafted in our first time All Star draft, right, Yeah, 1380 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 4: I took Pritchard. 1381 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: I think I took White my last time. Yeah. Nice 1382 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: ye yep. 1383 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 4: Fourteen and fifty seven threes for Boston last season. That 1384 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 4: is the NBA record. So we're talking about another one 1385 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 4: hundred and forty three more. So they need another one 1386 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 4: and one half per game. I mean it's a lot. 1387 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: They got Luca Garza, now some mean that helps let 1388 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: it fly? Yeah, I like it. Sixteen hundred threes, that's 1389 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: what we're going to be watching here, total three pointers 1390 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: for teams now we're watching. Yeah. 1391 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 2: No, that's a good prediction threes because in the three 1392 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: seasons under Missoula, the three point shots have been forty 1393 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 2: seven point nine percent of their shots forty percent of 1394 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 2: the shots, and it jumped to fifty three point five 1395 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 2: percent of their shots, So I could of jumped to 1396 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 2: fifty six fifty seven. Whatever it takes to get there. Yeah, okay, possible. 1397 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 1: There it is are four rounds of drafting your bold predictions. 1398 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: You want to recap them or just leave it there? 1399 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Everybody to make note of theirs. Do you know what 1400 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: yours are? Yeah? No, like, give the shorthand version of 1401 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: your predictions here. 1402 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: I'll give you a shorthand. Steph smash the three point 1403 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 2: record in one game. 1404 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: You gotta do it. The Phoenix Suns are going to 1405 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: be good, I mean better than last year thirty seven games. 1406 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 2: That's good for that Durant. The NBA Cup is ignored. 1407 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's not gonna happen. Jamie huevos Boncherio's given us 1408 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 2: a great one with Luca, who is going to average 1409 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 2: thirty five to ten and ten. Sorry to Travisoespo and 1410 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Jamie for not saying your name while I gave you 1411 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 2: the prediction. But I just want to say huevos Boncheros. 1412 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Okay, TK, what's your team here? 1413 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 4: Cooper Flag and Evan Mobley get five by five's. Victor 1414 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 4: Webbin Yama gets multiple five by fives. Jalen Brunson, We'll 1415 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 4: have a twenty assist game. That one came from Simon Die. 1416 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 4: Mister Bond said, Steph Castle, please call me. Steph will 1417 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 4: have the highest dump score in the league this year. 1418 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 4: And Tomas says, seventy five wedgies this season. 1419 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 1: All right, and my bold predictions from you guys. VJ 1420 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Edgecombe of the Sixer is gonna lead all rookies in 1421 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 1: scoring and he's going to shock the world and win 1422 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year over Cooper dan Land says, Joe 1423 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: Mazzula is going to go insane. That's what I'm gonna 1424 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: go with here right at a press conference, specifically, cut 1425 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: his hand open, spread blood everywhere. Dylan Horner Cole Anthony 1426 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: explosion eighteen and six from Cole Anthony is gonna win 1427 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: one of the awards, either six Man or Most Improved. 1428 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: And then mtr is saying the Celtics are going to 1429 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: hit over sixteen hundred three pointers and they're gonna win 1430 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: the East. And we're gonna learn at least the casuals 1431 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: will learn who Derek White and Peyton Pritchett are because 1432 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: they're going to pop off. Love it. I did have 1433 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 1: one more I saw from ghost Face Ziller, a prediction 1434 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: he had in his newsletter this morning. I want to 1435 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: read it to you guys, get your opinion. Ziller's thinking 1436 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: this when it comes to the broadcast Peacock Slash. NBC's 1437 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: presentation of the NBA this season is seamless and Earns 1438 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: plotteds so people are gonna like it. Amazon Prime set up. 1439 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: They try to capture a bit of the T and 1440 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,280 Speaker 1: T energy, but it's uneven and the ESPN presentation is 1441 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: pretty similar to before, but Legler basically replicating Doris Burke's 1442 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: style on the Top Crew. The inside the NBA gambit 1443 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: on ESPN turns into the inside guys trying to see 1444 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: what they can get away with in the he House 1445 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: of the Mouse. I love that last part from Zilla 1446 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: is that where it's gonna head with those guys, Oh 1447 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 1: see what they can get away with saying and doing? 1448 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: How how willing are you to make it like it 1449 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: was at Turner Sports? 1450 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 4: And how okay with you Charles Barkley trashing your executives 1451 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 4: are yeah, because he is gonna say stuff. 1452 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. 1453 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 4: How how early does Chuck call it? TNT Like, oh 1454 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 4: oh immediately, I mean he's been working there for thirty years. 1455 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 4: They're like so quickly, are gonna be like, what's different. 1456 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 4: It's the same people here, same makeup, We're in the 1457 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 4: same studio. 1458 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I do want to. I'm fascinated to see 1459 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: how much Ernie does try to reel them in when 1460 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: they start going with the who cares we work at 1461 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: ESPN sort of vibe like I don't know, I already 1462 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: could also be team who gives a damn? Or sometimes 1463 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: he like tries to keep control a little bit. 1464 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Charles is going to go from I don't 1465 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 2: think we can work at ESPN. I mean I want 1466 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 2: to be able to say what I want to probably 1467 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 2: saying the same thing. 1468 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: No, probably, no, probably about it. He is going to 1469 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,759 Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. That's why we love him. Okay. 1470 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 1: The eightieth NBA season tips off tonight. We got the doubleheader. 1471 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 1: It's the Rockets versus the Thunder followed by the Warriors 1472 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,560 Speaker 1: versus the Lakers. We're getting the NBA on NBC, and 1473 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: that theme song round Ball Rock for the first time 1474 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: in more than two decades at least. I mean we've 1475 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:38,679 Speaker 1: heard it, but obviously in real games here. I wonder 1476 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: if we get that intro part into the round Ball Rock. Yeah, 1477 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: how are they gonna how are they gonna do it? 1478 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: We're all listening. Yeah, yeah, we're going to be tuned 1479 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 1: in tonight to these preseason shows. I guess let's start 1480 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 1: at seven thirty maybe seven, I don't know. But we 1481 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: have pick them it's back. Oh yeah, we're doing a 1482 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: pick them payoff short month here for October. We got 1483 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 1: basically less than two weeks we're picking games from, and 1484 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: we've already decided what it's going to be. Short month 1485 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: troll man. Whoever finishes last in our October pick them 1486 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: battle here when it comes picking games every night is 1487 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: going to have to co host the show from underneath 1488 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: the table dressed as a troll. It's a short month 1489 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: troll man situation. Of course, everybody knows that short mon 1490 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: troll man. So that's what's at stake. Yeah, I've done 1491 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: it before me. 1492 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, So it feels like with my pick 1493 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 2: here on the first game, that it's destined to happen 1494 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 2: one more time. 1495 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 1: So the two games we're all zero zero. I'm the 1496 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: only one. 1497 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm the only one taking the Lakers at home against 1498 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. I picked that game because I thought 1499 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 2: it was a little bit more interesting than the Rockets 1500 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 2: visiting the Thunder with a seven point spread. The Lakers 1501 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 2: at home to the Golden State Warriors O Lebron. Obviously, 1502 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 2: they're a slight dog plus two and a half via FanDuel, 1503 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 2: I'm only one taking the Lakers. It's essentially Yeah, the 1504 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 2: Lakers are going to take care of business at home. 1505 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 2: I just feel like that's the biggest thing that they're 1506 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 2: playing for. They're playing for the home court and the 1507 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 2: home opener, and they do it without Lebron. 1508 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it. I feel like, look now more 1509 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: than ever, you're gonna want to get off to a 1510 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 1: quick start here and pick them once you get down 1511 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: two or three games exactly. So exactly, there's a big one. 1512 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: It's a big game with troll man on the line. 1513 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Are what type of troll man are we going for 1514 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: with the costume? Are we going like the old nineties 1515 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: doll troll or puffy hair yet or are we going 1516 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: more like like a storybook troll that lives under the 1517 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Verry Tales and steals your shoes and stuff. 1518 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 2: I think fairy tale is the way to go. I'm 1519 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 2: a little worried about about the camera getting troll hair 1520 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 2: under the table, you know, whether it will not it'll 1521 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 2: be visible. But maybe I'm just reaching here. I mean 1522 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 2: the troll under the bridge, what are we dressing him? 1523 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:05,639 Speaker 1: Like, well, that's what I mean. I feel like, yeah, yeah, 1524 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: the troll, the toy troll was actually sort of cute, right, 1525 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: colorful yeah, colorful? Yeah, but you're what do you want? 1526 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: You maybe a bit of both, you know, like oh wow, 1527 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: yeah super troll. 1528 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, like you got the hair, but you're also got 1529 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 5: the griminess ugliness of the troll under the bridge. 1530 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay troll. And I think it's fair for that 1531 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 1: one episode when whoever is doing the troll man, like 1532 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: the other guys could be mean to the troll. Oh yeah, okay, okay, 1533 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,799 Speaker 1: like you sort of like kick them and yeah. 1534 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, the trolls will be asking for like passwords and 1535 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 5: stuff to continue talking or something. 1536 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 1: But I mean like. 1537 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 5: That, I don't know, Yeah, like the three Billy Goat 1538 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 5: scrap they go, you know, you want to pass the bridge, 1539 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 5: you got to say the password, you got to solve 1540 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 5: a riddle or something. 1541 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not really well versed in oddly 1542 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: in control of that situation. Yeah, yeah, we need the 1543 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 1: control that has to be Yeah, I like dumb point 1544 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: all right, where are your dirtiest socks? You know what 1545 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: I mean? Oh for the guys that don't lose, you're 1546 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 1: saying yeah, yeah, yeah, and skeat a bunch of beans. 1547 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Good night exactly, farts and feet, all right, fantastic in 1548 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 1: early November, absolutely all right. Enjoyed the game tonight. Super 1549 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: excited to have real NBA basketball back in our lives. 1550 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 1: We got the doubleheader, so we got the ring ceremony 1551 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 1: there and okay, see we got this new presentation from NBC. 1552 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 1: We have lots to talk about on tomorrow show. Hopefully 1553 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: you'll join us live at ten am Eastern Here on YouTube. 1554 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Obviously flipped into a podcast, hit the light button, subscribe 1555 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews and until tomorrow 1556 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Clever Rose. You heard it here first, have a great time, 1557 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 1: turn up, Love you guys, awesome. Thanks you to ask. 1558 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 2: And remember Stefan Castle is only the second Stefan in 1559 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,680 Speaker 2: NBA history to. 1560 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,759 Speaker 1: Stefan Marbury. 1561 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, will you be better than Stefan Marbury? 1562 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: I don't. 1563 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 2: We don't have to compare, We don't have to compare, 1564 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 2: but I don't. I do feel like, should you it's 1565 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: a good question, should you call him Stefan or Steph. 1566 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: We never call him Steph Marbury. Very rare, yeah, rare, 1567 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 1: that's true. Hey, let us know price to eight people.