WEBVTT - In Case You Missed It: #100 - Kristian Bush from Sugarland 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:03.080 All right, this is very special episode for us, episode 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:07.080 one hundred. I always said from the infancy stages of 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.280 this podcast, and once we hit one hundred, we are 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.600 officially a real podcast. So after this episode concludes with 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.520 Christian Bush, we will be a real podcast. And I 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.040 thank you all for listening to this thing and making 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:23.200 a big and relatively speaking big and might deep good job. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.960 My friend been been at it since the beginning. I 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.960 bought all the equipment, didn't tell the company what we're 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.599 doing it. Mike set it up, been in two houses 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.280 and here we are episode one. How didn't get your 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:44.159 hands up? We're about to start with a Christian in 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.640 a second. But I just want to say thank you 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.720 so much for listening. We're trying to get on songwriters 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.040 and producers and artists and have our long conversations you 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.760 can't hear anywhere else. I think we've been able to 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.160 do that. And check out just scroll through and check 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:01.040 out Mary Moore's, Chris Stapleton and Ross Comperiman and Shane McNally. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.480 There are so many, they're just stories of one stories. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.319 We've tried to bring that to you. Even John Oates 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.039 from Hall of Notes. You know, we've had a John 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.840 Mayer a lot, a lot of ones that aren't in 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.280 the format too. So I want to say that on 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.680 the Nashville Podcast Network and here we are, Episode one hundred, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.679 we also have a network of shows. I like to 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.840 encourage you to check out Good Company with Jake Owen. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.319 I like to encourage you to check out Geeking Out 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.280 with Christian Bush, which is not even about music, really, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.840 it's just about people geeking out over things. Whiskey ref 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.880 Raff with the guest from Whiskey Riff to a show 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.520 from Chicago about country music kind the fans perspective. So 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.360 thank you for letting us do that special music for 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.680 episode one hundred. Although I might keep this and I'll 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.320 like to you like it, I'll kind of fell I 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.880 love that. Get your hands up. Here we are Episode 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.560 one hundred. Here we are, Episode one hundred. Didn't know 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:58.480 would be so much fun in episode one hundred. All right, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.600 I'm gonna in this down. We're gonna start with Christian Bush. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.960 But appreciate everybody for listening. And Mike, let's keep this music, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:12.520 okay because I feel like eating something human. It feels 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.919 like a zombie movie. He's right. Christian Bush, Episode hundred. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.320 Here we go. I welcome to the biggest episode in 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.760 the history of our podcast. For two reasons, yeah, for 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:29.400 two reasons. One, it's our one episode. Yes, oh my god. 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.560 We were going to do some sort of special for 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.040 one hundred. This is honest, god truth, and I said, well, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.840 Christian is going to come up in the next few weeks. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.080 So we saved episode one hundred because I wanted it 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.200 to be you, and that's why. So it's all. And 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:50.920 I've always said a car or something, no does everybody 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:55.520 in the room is a thing. Not so much. But 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.280 you can have my hat. I guess we can trade hats. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.800 So it's are I've always said to myself, you're not 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.000 a legitimate podcast that has proven that you will stay 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.119 the test of time until you hit one hundred. Episodes 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.360 can be, but you needed a hundred so people trust 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.040 that you were going to be there. And so we 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.960 have over a hundred hours of content of artists, producers, songwriters, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.240 and this is our one hundred. So we're officially today. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.160 We're really yes, that's right, we are a real podcast. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:27.000 Everyone yep, So that decide. I'm very happy you're here. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.240 Mr Christian. Well, thank you for having me, but so 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.440 much to talk about. And I feel like, why don't 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.800 we start with today? Because Christian has a new podcast 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.320 that's up now and we'll get to that, and we're 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.720 gonna get to life. But why don't we just start 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.760 with today and let's talk about sugar Land coming back. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.520 So I had mentioned to you that it was difficult 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.320 for me to interview you and Jennifer because I just 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.080 knew too much. I knew you guys were coming back 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.320 together before, and I'm a good secret keeper. Yeah, but 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.960 we'll backstory that. Okay, I'll back story for you. And 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.880 this microphone the right one. O. UM, I remember the 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:10.640 moment where uh, my phone blew up because um, people 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.400 in the that were listeners, and especially people in the 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.640 industry knew that you and I knew each other because 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.440 I you invited me to write on your your first record, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.479 and you had said something on the air about, you 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.680 know what, why don't we bring sugar Land back together together? 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.839 And that was like a week after I had gotten 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.360 a phone call that said, hey, so, if by chance, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.920 would this be something you'd be interested in from Jennifer 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.680 and and her people, And I was like huh, and 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.840 she said, look, do you can't tell anybody that I've 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.520 called you. And the first thing that I thought to 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.880 myself was, oh, my god, they think I told Bobby, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:57.080 And well, that's what I was worried because I have 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.240 like five friends on Earth, and I would consider you 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.400 one of them. But I'm not sure I would have 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.880 disclosed that to you even if we were friends. Didn't 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:11.400 I did not, but I immediately thought that I was Oh. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.400 So I called my people and say, can you call 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.880 Bobby's people and tell him that he's too close to 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:23.880 the truth. He's flying deep throat, is too close to Watergate. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.840 You know, I'm random. And because I got a call 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.960 that day from Tom, who we both worked with, and 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.880 Tom says, hey, can you come to the office, I said, yeah, sure, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:40.120 I really get called in. He just didn't want to 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.920 tie text anything or he goes, hey, I need to 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.200 not talk about sugar Land. So I think it's a 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.080 great idea. What if we got him back together for 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.160 one show? Hey, we need to not talk about sugar 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.840 Land because they're talking about sugar Land. And I was like, oh, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:58.839 I'm out nothing. It was completely random and rare, and 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.000 I just felt my heart like they should be together again. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.039 And I'm if for everybody listening that thinks maybe there 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:10.000 was nothing up. No, but I love your Apparently it 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.279 has the ability to will things into existence. So I'd 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.000 like you to say some other things on the on 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.920 the air, like, you know, still the same number one record. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.920 I feel still the same should be a number one record. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.520 So I was trying to think back because I don't 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.919 know how we know, how we actually met met? Okay, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.320 I do, I do? I do. I loved Southern your record, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.560 That's what I want. What I felt was because I 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.600 didn't know you. I felt like Trailer Hitch was one 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.599 of those songs they screwed up on Big Time because 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.560 it was so good and radio didn't give it the 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.320 shot that it deserved. And I remember just screaming about 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.640 radio just I couldn't believe that that was not a 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:56.120 massive hit because it was so good, and I was 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:01.000 a little bit upset everybody, and I said, hey, why 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.400 aren't we helping this song? It's so good. I didn't 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.520 know you. We never met, and that was the first 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.520 time that someone said, hey, you would you like to 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.200 meet Christian And I was like, yeah, sings and I 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.400 didn't know came up, came to the studio. We talk. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.040 We talked a bit, but a lot of people come 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.280 to the studio. I talked a lot of people. And 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.640 I don't ever even do anything outside of my bubble. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.640 And uh, I say hey, we should get together, and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.320 never do I follow that up because I never think 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.120 it's real. But for some reason I felt like you 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.680 were real, Like you like, hey, you want to come 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.240 over and we'll do something, we'll write And so you 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.239 were back in town because your permanent residences in Atlanta, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.320 your main residence, and you're like, hey, I'm not gonna place, 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.000 come over. Well, I was writing a record and I 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.239 went over and we wrote every day is a good day. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.880 Every day it is a good day, and that's how. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.200 And I was like, I have to be friends with 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.320 that dude. He has three iPads going seven guitars to 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.520 mandolin's his whif he's playing with his feet on a 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.480 poco ball. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.680 He's crazy, like I have it in a different way. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.240 And then I thought, yeah, we should be friend. And 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.160 then since then we've actually kept up a relationship. I mean, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.000 I don't live here, so I can't. I don't have 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.880 a whole lot of you know, time, But I also 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.080 I'm not here very often. I know you're not, but 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.920 I do appreciate it. You know. It's I've been doing 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.640 this for a very long time, and it's very rare 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.920 that you find like minded people within the same work 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.840 that you do or and like minded for me also 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.920 includes this um passion would drive of things that you 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.120 want to do. You know, It's like I wake up 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.199 in the morning and I feel like there's just not 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.319 enough time left to write all the songs I want 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.280 to write, or to do all the things I want 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.040 to do, and I kind of get that off of 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.480 you when I'm around you, Like I get that feeling 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.000 like and I may be wrong, I don't know if 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.160 I'm being presumptuous, but you got a lot you know 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.080 that you're that you're it feels like in my imagination 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.920 that you want to jump into if it's a movie time, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.160 you'd be like, yeah, let's make a movie, Like hey, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.880 you want to go, you know, do we have enough 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.880 money with Let's let's buy a take it on SpaceX, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.360 you know, let's you know whatever it is. My therapist, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:04.880 you nail me and I kind of but I like 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.080 that about and I you know, I'm super suspicious of 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.400 human beings after doing this long enough that not everyone's 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.559 intentions are out in front of them. They're always a 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.800 little bit guarded, and your intentions are always in front. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.200 So I appreciate that about you. You know, it's funny too, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.439 as I was mentioning to you before we started, can 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:25.720 you turn the air down a bit? It's a little 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.600 hot near and Mr Bush isn't a coat, and I 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.720 want to make sure I'm in my French provincial outfit. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.400 To me a vest under a nice jacket. Well it's 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.079 actually stitched into the jail. What the jacket with the 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.800 best built in? How about that? Very lazily French? And 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.520 then there's a little French up here. We French. What 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.560 did you do today to be so dressed? You know? 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.920 And look I I even put on my leopard glass, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.080 my kind of leopard breathing glasses. Um. I was helping 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.120 Tyler Farr pick songs for his new record that I'm producing, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.600 and I thought that, um, the way I would intimidate 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.439 the song pictures that I'm the the side of the 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.880 table was to bring my pencils and my pencil sharpener 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.599 and dressed this way today, this is the opposite of 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.840 Tyler farr And and just quietly sharpened my pencils to 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.040 a fine point while I looked at their songs as 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.800 they pitched me crappy songs and then and then yeah, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.000 I just needed I needed something today to intimidate, because 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.240 I'm the least intimidating person on earth in my imagination 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:27.760 when I woke up that this is this is what 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.200 would help. It's crazy and cool that you're working with Tyler, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.199 because I like Tyler a lot, and I feel like 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.200 because now I kind of know you as a producer 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.280 because a Lindsay and you know, you did a wildly 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.160 successful album and it's not even started to be a 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.480 successful it's going to be. And you did it with 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.560 at a time with Lindsay when they did have a 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.640 single out, like they did an odd thing and said 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.520 go make a record, and you and Lindsay go make 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.680 a record and there was no single plan, there was nothing. Yeah, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.200 you made a record with going into it with out 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.360 of sound a sign to you, right, And I think 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.160 that's maybe where I can help when it's an artist 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.960 and you did with her, and I was, you know, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.640 Lindy and I are still close, but we were really 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.560 closed in Apparently I was the very last to know. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.760 Oh really as her producer, yeah, you know, and I 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.600 live here and you and I knew each other, but 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.480 I had no idea. And so I'm in there like 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.840 helping her pick songs and like, oh, I hear you're 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.679 writing this. I don't know, what do you think about this? 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.200 You know? And I just never brought up the question, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.719 like in relationship songs that sounds like you're feeling good 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.240 about a relationship. I never asked what relationship. So finally 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.480 she had to actually stop me and go, hey, I 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.280 just want you to know. I know you don't listen 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.720 to the radio often and because in Atlanta we don't 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:51.839 get your show. Uh and um, She's like, I want 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.240 you to know that you know, Bobby and I are dating. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.160 I was like, you're freaking kidding me for a while 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.360 and she was like no, really, I was like, well, thanks, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.079 I appreciate it. So which songs am I ascribing to this? 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.600 You like to think of me in the head and 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.760 you have right now she has at the time of 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:16.760 us recording, this her highest song ever with Criminal. Yeah 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.600 it's a twenty nine right now her highest song ever. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.320 And I remember hearing the work text and then after 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:24.679 she was done with you, I was like, oh yeah, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.000 Christians adding a whole live bit. It's like, too brilliant. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.080 It's really cool to see you in that element. I've 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.520 been able to see all the sides except the dad's side. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.400 Have me as your kid, and then I'll have it all. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.440 I'll know at all. Let me come live with every 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.160 one of your kids, and I get it. My kids 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.800 are pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, well that's okay. I got 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.520 sidetracked by far. You are doing Tyler's I'm doing Tyler's 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.720 record with him right now, and Matson and Budlines record. Pardon, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:56.160 Who's who's the duo? You did? Uh? Walker McGuire. I 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.199 didn't produce that, but I wrote their song that's on 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.560 the radio now. That's what it is called. Okay, that's 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.160 why you put it in the force. I was in 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.840 that little box. I was just it was I'm having 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.240 to pinch myself recently. You know, you you do this 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.080 work for so long and you have to get no 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.080 so often that there are times in which things fall 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.760 into place, much like you know you see actors on 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.160 movies like suddenly they look like they're super hot because 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.360 they're in five movies at the same time. Well that 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.880 wasn't really the case. They made the movies at different times, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.400 and the studios just accidentally released them all at the 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.439 same time. And suddenly, you know, Iron Man is you know, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.760 Robert Downey Jr. Has a comeback or something, so well 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.680 is you know, all this stuff happened, And now it 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.079 wasn't didn't happen on top of each other. It just 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.520 released on top of each other. And I have a 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.880 very difficult time taking the moment to stick of candles 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.800 into a cake and light them and then blow them 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.440 out and take a moment to acknowledge what's happening. So 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.000 I've been trying to do that this year a little bit, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.240 and things have been all in on top of each other. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.880 I mean, I'm just so proud of the work that 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.640 that Lindsey did and and and edited with her. And 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.160 then it's Walker McGuire single. I had no idea. I mean, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.079 we wrote that in forty five minutes at high noon 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.280 on a Tuesday at a lake somewhere. I didn't even 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.360 know these guys, and I loved the song. But then 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.440 they decided to record it, and I'm not sure I've 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.480 had a song on the charts with someone else. I didn't. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.480 I wasn't in the band at the same time that surely, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.400 and now's we're back in the things that all these 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.240 songs are kind of hitting at the same time. And 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.120 I was giggling the other day because someone said, Okay, 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.040 so it's either you or you that's going to be 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.680 the most added this week. And I was like, what 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.680 do you mean? And I was like, Oh my gosh, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.200 are you kidding me? So I've always wondered about these 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.360 guys who live here in town and they have like 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.520 nine number ones in a year or something something astronomical. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.400 I'm like, how does that happen? Um? Now I now 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.640 at least know what kind of the storm looks like. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.760 I don't know if it's the perfect storm. I hope 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.200 there are many perfect storms to come. Man. I guess 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:15.160 I missed the first round of sugar Land. I didn't 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.600 miss it as a fan because I went to a 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.520 Sugarland show even as a fan better yeah, but I 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.880 missed it in Laurel, Arkansas. I went and watch sugar Land. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.840 I wouldn't watched you guys play with Kenny so, and 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.400 that's where I saw all the excitement and jumping around, 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.240 and it's I mean, it's a lot, that's what I remember, Yeah, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.880 very much. So, lots of bodies moving around and so. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.560 But I was a sugar Land fan more so than 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.200 a Kenney fan, frankly at the time. So I went 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.880 to the show and before I moved to Nashville. You 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.960 guys weren't sugar Land, right, We never crossed paths, right, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.840 So the first time we crossed paths was you doing 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.560 your solo record, which I think is cool too because 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.480 I liked you for you. So when everybody gets out 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.400 to stay and be my friend, just remember I liked 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.360 you for you, just like Blessing do the souls. She 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.320 likes me for me. You remember those guys. Did you 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.120 know those guys? I did not know them, but I 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.840 know this. Let me talk about this for a second. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.080 So sleep number, Oh yes, So I did this podcast 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.440 in my bedrooms actually, which about the way we have 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.640 to like shut the door and Michael, people come up 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.320 here because it's weird my bedroom doors open, but I 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.360 guess they do see the old sleep number bed in there. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.480 I have a sleep number because for me, I do 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.280 struggle with sleep. And the great thing about sleep number 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.800 is it's actually for me. It's the ideal firmness for me. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.880 I went into a sleep number store where you buy 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.840 the bed and you can lay on the bed there 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.320 and there's a screen the one I went to the 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.480 screen above and you look at it and it shows 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.200 you how you're laying and maybe why you're not laying 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:44.680 right or not getting the right amount of sleep. And 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.600 they give you a sleep number that's just for you. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.920 And my sleep number setting was and I've been back since. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.080 But it's a thirty. And if your partner has a 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.560 different one, you both can have your own sleep number setting. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.600 The beds are so smart they sent you every move 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.640 that automatically adjust to you, keeping you sleep comfortably to 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.760 the night. There's even adjustment for snow and lift up 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.040 a little bit. I don't know if your bed does that. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.440 And honor of fift two weeks of an honor of 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.960 fifty two years of football, not weeks, but years of football. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.440 Take fifty dollars off any item from over a hundred 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.320 bucks from Sleep Number, which, by the way, the pillars 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.200 are awesome there too. Sleep number dot com slash Big 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.800 Game to because you're fifty two dollar coupon now through 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.920 February four again sleep number dot com slash Big Game. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.399 So I don't really know the origin of you, you 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.159 guys coming together. She really was this interesting beginning, you know. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:38.280 Um yeah, if you put it in time. Um. I 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.080 was signed to a record deal in Atlantic Records in 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.320 New York as a rock act, like a folk rock 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.199 act called Billy Pilgrim, and we were kind of a 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.000 critics Darling and for us we were a huge success. 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.159 But compared to our label mates, which were like Matchbox 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.919 twenty was signed the same time we were in Hooty 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:04.119 and the Blowfish and and uh Ed Roland and and 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.720 those guys, we were all at you know, it was 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.680 all out of the Southeast at the exact same time. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.560 And our band, um, you know, Rolling Stone loved it. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.760 Like the review of our first album was in the 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:19.040 Kurt Cobing issue when he died. So if you ever 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.679 want to go read my first band's first national review, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:28.400 it wasn't that issue. Yeah you can find it. Oh yeah, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:44.920 there you go crazy over my hair? Who's Insomniac's what's 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.479 the vocal situation here? That's me singing and my partner 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.440 Andrew was also a singer. And that's my friend Ellis 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.640 Paul there in the background going, but I'm the lead 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:06.800 singer on this again. Down the Black Cands, sad the textures? 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.200 Do you sing? Do you sing different? And a little bit. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.200 I mean I was twenty two, you know, but I've 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.639 always had a raspy quality of my voice. But I 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.879 was worried that country music wasn't gonna take it. It 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.679 wasn't going to accept my raspy voice. And at the time, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.879 Billy Pilgrim was kind of in its waning years. We 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.280 had had a really pretty good run of it, you know, 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.959 hundreds of thousands of records, which for us was giant. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.760 And we've been on tour around the world. Like I 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.919 we opened from all Ethadge for a couple of years, 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.359 and we had opened for Bob Dylan and Beck and 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.680 Tom Petty and all these bands, right and learned how 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.080 to travel the world playing arenas. And I wasn't even 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:53.800 twenty six yet, and I had a terrible tragedy. My 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.520 mom died. Um, then they flew the planes into the buildings. Um. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.880 We I've been working on other people career. We'd helped 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.399 John John get started in Seawan Mallins and he had 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.560 moved to Atlanta. He had moved to Atlanta at the time, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.199 and was he was Clay when I met him. He 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.399 and Clay were working and my brother Brandon worked on 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.080 that first record with them, and then worked on John's 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.760 first record. UM and our bass player from Billy Polgram 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.199 was Dave Labrier's first record. Do you mean like the 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.320 EP inside Once Out or over Squares which which UM 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:31.600 the first record on Aware, which was Room for Squares, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.480 And then the one before that was kind of the 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:38.639 one that had like the sweatshirt song, And that's just 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.440 Brandon working on that. Your brother he worked on both 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.520 those records, and so that's that was the world I 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.520 was in. I was kind of trying to help new 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.800 artists get started um on the Coat Tails or whatever. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.119 Billy Pilgrim was able to go forward, and that's how 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.600 I knew Jennifer as she was an opening act for 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.320 Billy Pogram as Jennifer Nettles as Jennifer Nettles and and 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.919 before that it was a duo she was in and 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.919 then they broke up, and and then she went on 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.840 by herself to keep making money in the Atlanta scene, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.800 and I had a major label record deal, so that 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.000 was a it was a big feather in the cap 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.040 from down there. You they didn't hand them out like 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.280