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Speaker 1: What is going on? Welcome to the legendary episode two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty edition of the Minnesota Vikings podcast presents

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Speaker 1: it by PEPSI. My name is Gay Henderson. I'm inside

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Speaker 1: the TCO Radio studio with producer Jay neltson Vikings dot

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Speaker 1: Com statum Everett. And since it is a legendary episode,

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Speaker 1: we had to bring in the legend himself, the longtime

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Speaker 1: vice president of the Minnesota Vikings Media and Communication, mister

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Speaker 1: Bob Hagen is here. He now serves as a senior

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Speaker 1: consultant for the Minnesota Vikings. And Bob, this is just

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Speaker 1: a one of my favorite times of the year because

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Speaker 1: now I finally get to sit back, not talk, and

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Speaker 1: to just hear stories from you. You're just one of

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Speaker 1: the best storytellers in all of the building. And if

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Speaker 1: you have been following Bob Hagen, you've seen the articles online.

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Speaker 1: You retired earlier this year, but you've still been around

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Speaker 1: the team. So just in your thirty two years of

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Speaker 1: covering this team or working as an employee for the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, just doing the phenomenal work that you've done.

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Speaker 1: Just first and foremost were some standouts in your life

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Speaker 1: in your career here as a Minnesota Vikings employee.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thanks for having me on. As

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Speaker 2: far as legendary, I think I'm going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about legends, not necessarily myself.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two years.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a lot to kind of wrap it into

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Speaker 2: a few quick, you know sentences and stuff. But I

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Speaker 2: mean the amount of great relationships and made here over

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Speaker 2: it's hard to encapsulate it all into you know. One

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Speaker 2: thing I think something that I'm you know, really proud

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Speaker 2: of is you know, over that course of time, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've had way more winning seasons than losing seasons. You know,

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Speaker 2: we only just had a couple, you know, seasons that

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Speaker 2: were that we you know, felt like we were really

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Speaker 2: down low. You know that that I was a part of.

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Speaker 2: So it always felt like we were always in the

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Speaker 2: and so you know, I think, you know, just think

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Speaker 3: Of the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: You know, my you know, my wife, my three kids,

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Speaker 2: with all my friends and my college friends and high

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Vikings were something that you liked before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I mean I really did, you know,

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Speaker 3: And now he's one of my close friends.

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Speaker 2: And I spoke at his eightieth birthday party three years

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Speaker 5: You know, one of the things you touched on earlier

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Speaker 5: the players, former players, current players. Was the idea of,

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Speaker 5: you know, Bob was always somebody that was would take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where that came from exactly. I

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Speaker 2: And I just always kind of wanted to just be

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Speaker 2: when I got out of college, you guys are too

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Speaker 2: So that was such a great way that I kept

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Speaker 1: Bob, there's been I mean, just speaking of your legendary career,

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Speaker 1: there's been ten coaches in the history of the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: You've worked for eight of those coaches, So during your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I definitely got to hand a

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Speaker 4: I've always said that like back when I don't know,

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Speaker 6: Way to get the news.

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Speaker 6: How has that a change since then? And what did

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Speaker 3: I kind of do think it was the golden age.

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Speaker 2: And I talked to a lot of the old the

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Speaker 2: So I do think back then it was the golden

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Speaker 1: We are talking to Bob Hagen, the legendary Bob Hagen

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Speaker 1: on episode number two fifty of the Minnesota Vikings podcast.

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Speaker 5: Jay sid Hartman is a larger than life entity and

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Speaker 5: looking back at kind of Sid's life and is in

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Speaker 5: your time interacting with him, is there a quintessential Sid

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Speaker 2: There are so many. I mean, it's just like I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was always an adventure. Anytime he came out. I knew,

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Speaker 2: You know, I was twenty two and he was seventy

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Speaker 2: you know, the day he died. You know, it's definitely,

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Speaker 2: you know, a fun moment when I in a roundabout

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Speaker 2: something that I'll never forget, and you know, people have

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jaye just brought up Sid Hartman. We got

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Speaker 1: to bring up the legendary Bud Grant. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: if anyone looks at this Minnesota Vikings organization and they

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Speaker 4: Well, Bob, it always has felt to me like you've

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Speaker 2: I always wanted the best for you know, the people

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Speaker 1: I love it, Bob. We truly appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, for episode two fifty, Jay reached out

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on and continued success and all

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Speaker 1: Well we are back This is the Minnesota Vikings Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by PEPSI. If you enjoy that conversation with Bob Hagen,

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Speaker 1: the full edition of that is on Vikings dot com

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Speaker 1: right now. Just I don't want to, I don't know

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Speaker 1: everyone listening right now, Jay Tatum, they're both here from

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Speaker 6: Adam, Yes, isn't that kind of wild?

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love our defense. I feel like that's

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Speaker 4: just where it starts. I know that the Lions are

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Speaker 4: coming off a forty two point performance and that's a

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Speaker 4: little scary, But their main weapons right now are their

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Speaker 4: running backs. In the Vikings Ring fifth in scoring defense

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Speaker 4: right now, I think that they're run defenses their bread

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Speaker 4: and butter.

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Speaker 6: Being able to continue that would be great.

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Speaker 4: And they're also pretty good against the tight ends. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Sam Laporta had three touchdowns in the game. The rookie

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Speaker 4: is just absolutely on fire right now. But this Vikings

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Speaker 4: defense has only allowed four touchdowns this season into tight ends,

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Speaker 4: and you know, on average, they allow five catches granted,

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Speaker 4: I think he had five catches in last game for

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Speaker 4: three touchdowns, so hopefully that wouldn't happen. But I do

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Speaker 4: think that this team that's that's you know, the two

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Speaker 4: things that you need to control are that run game,

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Speaker 4: the the dual head of Jamior Gibbs and David Montgomery,

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Speaker 4: and then Sam Laporta is just on fire, and you

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Speaker 4: do and you do want to to some extent pressure

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Speaker 4: golf and see if you can make him uncomfortable back there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's why I like every week is

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Speaker 4: this defense. But you know, I kind of feel like.

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Speaker 5: Rightfully, so, Yeah, for sure, they've definitely been putting up

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Speaker 5: some crazy performances lately. You know, I think the fourth

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Speaker 5: quarter against the Cincinnati was something that fell like an

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Speaker 5: anomaly over the last last you know, three four games.

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Speaker 5: But I think the idea of feeling like this defense

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Speaker 5: is going to be you know, on their p's and

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Speaker 5: q's here going into this game, as tight as this

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Speaker 5: game is going to be, in as meaningful as it's

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Speaker 5: going to be, I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 5: huge part of the the game plan going for the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody wants them to win in our place and

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Speaker 4: have to put on the shirt and the hat and

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Speaker 4: all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right, sure, that will be the worst because the last

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Speaker 1: time a team put on a shirt and hat in

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Speaker 1: our stadium was us last year, following the probably the

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Speaker 1: best game or craziest, however you want to put it,

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Speaker 1: the wildest game, the largest comeback in NFOL history last

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Speaker 1: year against the Indianapolis Coats. It was a movie. In

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Speaker 1: the words of cam Bine them.

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Speaker 7: Jez, that's for sure. For me. What do I like

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Speaker 7: about this one?

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Speaker 5: The fact that the Lions here two and two in

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Speaker 5: their last four games. The two games that they lost

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Speaker 5: were both green Bay and Chicago. So going against division teams,

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Speaker 5: everyone is definitely put a nice giant bullseye on their

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Speaker 5: back at this point. And the thing for me about

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Speaker 5: those two games that really stood out when I watched

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Speaker 5: them was the idea of both green Bay and Chicago

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Speaker 5: put pressure on them early and did not let off

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Speaker 5: the gas pedal. They were pressing them. Defensively, they were

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Speaker 5: causing turnovers, they were making golf uncomfortable, and offensively they

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Speaker 5: were going for kill shots. And so to me, that is,

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Speaker 5: you know, kind of the simplistic view of what I

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Speaker 5: think this team needs to do. What do we talk

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Speaker 5: about all season, the idea of getting out, scoring early,

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Speaker 5: trying to get a lead. We did that last week, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, having the nice time.

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Speaker 6: We scored the opening drive exactly right.

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Speaker 5: So like for me, the idea with this one is,

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Speaker 5: don't overthink it. Just look at exactly what Green Bay

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Speaker 5: in Chicago did and that's pressed them early and forced

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Speaker 5: them to make mistakes and just hammered down. And the

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Speaker 5: thing for me is it's going to be the white

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Speaker 5: out game. It's going to be a Christmas Eve game.

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Speaker 5: The fans are going to be geeked like crazy. So

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Speaker 5: be as loud as you can and help this Vikings

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Speaker 5: defense and cheer on the offense.

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Speaker 7: You know, once they're scoring into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Jay, you you hit on that just in a fantastic way.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Jared Golf's game log right when

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Speaker 1: Jared Golf has been sacked three more times this year.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions are one and three. Yeah, they've lost

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Speaker 1: four games this year, and then three of those Jared

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Speaker 1: Golf has been sacked three more times. And two of

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Speaker 1: those games were the Chicago Bears two weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: then the Green Bay Packers two weeks prior to that.

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Speaker 1: So getting pressure on Jared Goff early and finding ways

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Speaker 1: to disrupt his comfortability. That is going to be a

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Speaker 1: recipe for success for this Vikings team. But you hit

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Speaker 1: on one thing that I like this week, and it's

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Speaker 1: just being back at home. Being back at US Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Is by the time kickoff fappins, I believe, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a Christmas Eve game December twenty fourth. The last home

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Speaker 1: game that we've had was November twenty eighth, So the

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Speaker 1: fact that our Vikings team will actually be able to

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Speaker 1: play in front of their home fans. It'll be a

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Speaker 1: whiteout game, like you just mentioned, fans will be raucus.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be one of those environments that

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Speaker 1: you kind of dream of if you're a player. We

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Speaker 1: saw the white out last year against the New York

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Speaker 1: Giants and the effect that had and that win. I

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Speaker 1: think that was a Saturday game last year when we

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Speaker 1: played the Giants. So just to be able to experience

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Speaker 1: that again, I believe our Vikings team will be hyped.

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Speaker 1: They'll be ready to play. But also when you're playing

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Speaker 1: a divisional opponent and you don't want them to win

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Speaker 1: the division on your home turf, Like Tatum said, I

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Speaker 1: believe that gives you a little bit more juice to

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Speaker 1: be able to go out there and hopefully get a

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Speaker 1: win on Sunday and continue to control your own destiny.

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Speaker 4: No, definitely, Like I said, I think that that was

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Speaker 4: such a great celebration last year, being able to see

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Speaker 4: our guys do that, And I remember the postgame locker

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Speaker 4: room just being crazy and how excited they were, and

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Speaker 4: like I think I read somewhere the Lions have never

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Speaker 4: won the NFC North and they haven't won a division

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Speaker 4: title since nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been thirty years.

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Speaker 4: Bob Hagen was two years on the job at the

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Speaker 4: Vikings in case anyone was wondering.

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Speaker 7: So back then it was the NSC Central.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so they it's never been done.

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Speaker 4: So you really don't want them to make that history

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Speaker 4: here on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But these last few weeks, like we've had a Monday

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Speaker 1: night football game against the Bears, a bye week Vegas.

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Speaker 6: It's a weird and then that half of the same season.

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Speaker 7: And that was the thing though too.

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Speaker 5: You brought it up earlier, the idea when the schedule

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Speaker 5: came out, this chunk was was the kind of that

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Speaker 5: you always look at it.

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Speaker 7: They tend to look at it in quarters.

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Speaker 5: You know, four games, four against four games, you get

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Speaker 5: to this last piece here, and as tough as that

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Speaker 5: last game was in Cincinnati, you know, the idea that

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Speaker 5: two of these last three games are at home, I

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Speaker 5: think is a great thing. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: the fans and the team should be kind of grinning

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Speaker 5: ear to ear and knowing that that's the case. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think everyone wants this feeling to be like you're

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Speaker 5: finishing out the season on a positive note. You're you're

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Speaker 5: pushing yourself into the playoffs, clicking on all cylinders and

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Speaker 5: and so hopefully for me, the the MotorCity kiddies that

574
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Speaker 5: have always been problematic for this team, whether it's been

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Speaker 5: at home or on the road, even in years when

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Speaker 5: they've been struggling, they've always seemed to give us fits.

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Speaker 5: If there's one thing I am certain of between last

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Speaker 5: season and this season, it is that it's going to

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Speaker 5: be a close game and that it's going to come

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Speaker 5: down to the last few plays of the game. So

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Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to this weekend and all I

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Speaker 5: really want for a Christmas present is a Vikings wins.

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Speaker 7: A want that is all.

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Speaker 5: I want to go into the New Year's Eve game

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Speaker 5: against the Packers and do the exact same thing again.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's very doable. As we close today's show, is

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Speaker 1: very doable. You look at the Lions schedule. We played

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Speaker 1: them well, they play us twice, and in between our

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Speaker 1: two games with them, they play the Dallas Cowboys, who's

590
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Speaker 1: vying for that NFC East overall, I guess to win

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Speaker 1: the NFC East, which would basically give them that two seed.

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Speaker 1: So all we have to do is win out. I

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Speaker 1: know that's easier said than done, and winning out means

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Speaker 1: beating this Lions team twice and the Lions. That Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Lions game next week is going to be a very

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Speaker 1: tough matchup for this Lions team, So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that goes. But at the same time, I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to be able to witness another white out. It's one

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Speaker 1: of those atmospheres that if you're in the NFL you

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Speaker 1: don't really get much. So the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to fill a college like environment. I'm just

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Speaker 1: thinking of like the penn States of the world, those

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Speaker 1: whiteouts in the number one stadium in the NFL. This

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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of fun. So Vikings fans,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're there. Kickoff is at twelve noon on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, so it's to be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you wear your white, make sure you get

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Speaker 1: there early. Make sure you're screaming for the home team.

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Speaker 1: The home team's wearing white. I know, usually the home

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Speaker 1: team wears the darker color, but makes you cheer for

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Speaker 1: the team that wears the white.

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Speaker 3: You wear white, me, you want me to wear?

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Speaker 4: Everyone out there to wear white? Yeah, Gabe is a

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Speaker 4: white out. What you're gonna wear?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Are we getting bombers this year?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But I already got my stuff. You already I got

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Speaker 5: that stuff from last week or last year. He did

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Speaker 5: the white out last year. Still got my stuff and

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Speaker 5: got a little extra, little extra sauce for it.

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Speaker 7: So it'll be fun.

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Speaker 5: It's always fun. I love those kind of games. It's fun.

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Speaker 5: I just think it. It really helps the fans really

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Speaker 5: get into it. So again looking forward to it, and

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be a great, great atmosphere and some.

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Speaker 1: Time that we'll come for the Vikings white out, stay

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Speaker 1: for Jay's outfit.

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Speaker 6: There you go there we go, And for.

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Speaker 1: J Nelson, Tatum, Everett, Bob Hagen. My name is Gabe Panders,

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