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Speaker 2: It's spooky. I'm joky.

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Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead.

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Speaker 2: It's coming this way.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted, I guess man says, Hey boo,

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Speaker 3: it's me Roz.

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Speaker 1: Summer be gone. I'm over you. I'm done with the heat,

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Speaker 1: though I don't think that's necessarily going away. But bring

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Speaker 1: on the pumpkins, bring on the ghost stories. It is

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Speaker 1: our time, and I'm so excited about it. I have

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Speaker 1: got Cameron Farmer on the pod today, who is a

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Speaker 1: comedian so so funny. I highly recommend seeing Cameron if

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Speaker 1: ever you get the chance. And we had a great

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Speaker 1: We got a great talk. It gets a little deep,

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Speaker 1: it's a little fun. I mean, we laugh. We have

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Speaker 1: a good time. There will be a video version of

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Speaker 1: this episode within the week, but the audio is here

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Speaker 1: and now, so I hope you enjoy that. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a ton to say up top here other than

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Speaker 1: you know, the typical stuff, mainly step you can find

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Speaker 1: in the description of this episode, like my Patreon link

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Speaker 1: for a full length episode every week, and I guess

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Speaker 1: that's it, So let's do it. Here's me talking to

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Speaker 1: Cameron Farmer on with the show. Oh my god, Hi camera.

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Speaker 2: Hiras, how are you so? Yod, I'm doing well. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited that you're here. We've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of shows lately, and you're always slaying

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Speaker 1: the children. Thank you so much, no child left enslave.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always fun to watch you. And now

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Speaker 1: I get to talk to you about ghosts.

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Speaker 2: I'm so psyched.

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Speaker 1: Where are you at on that?

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Speaker 2: I love them obviously, I believe in them.

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Speaker 1: Well, you grew up in Pasadena, which is like it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the JPL, like what's his name, scientologist guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking gateway to Hell all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that?

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Speaker 2: It was like he would do like sex, magic parties, sacrifice,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a weird gateway to Hell like in

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Speaker 1: Does it work? Does it actually get to Hell.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would say that there's like definitely demonic

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Speaker 1: Tom Girardi Honey.

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Speaker 2: Fly, yeah, prime example.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so when you grow up in Pasadena, is it like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like all the teenagers go to the Gateway

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Speaker 2: Like I was such a like homebody that I tell you.

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Speaker 1: I've talked so many times on this podcast about it.

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Speaker 1: But we had like a cemetery that had like a

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what kind of church are we talking?

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Speaker 2: You know, new school Pentecostala, so very chill, but we're

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Speaker 2: like I did grow up like very spiritually inclined with

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Speaker 1: I'm just such a believer that truly whatever can be

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to fight with what works for somebody.

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Speaker 2: Maybe my mental illness was a demon that I was

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Speaker 2: trying to like fight with everything was demonic, Okay, But

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Speaker 1: It's just you don't remember this.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember it, but it was like told to me.

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Speaker 2: Don't panch my butt.

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Speaker 1: Would you say that there's a side of you that's

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Speaker 2: For sure? I think I think all black people in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she just like turned her back to me, and

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Speaker 1: So here it is.

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Speaker 2: So Aunt season in la is pretty bad. What a

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Speaker 2: them out. But we had forgotten about that until I

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00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: came home one day and realized that, like my husband

439
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: had pulled out the gel and so I was like, oh,

440
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: this is great. So I took it. I put it

441
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: in the hole and I sent a video to my

442
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: husband and he was like, that's great, thank you for

443
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: doing that. I had assumed that he had pulled it

444
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: out because he didn't have a chance to do it.

445
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, backstory for that. But he came home later

446
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, thank you for pulling that out.

447
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: You know, here's it seems like it's been working. And

448
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: he told me I didn't pull that out and I

449
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: was like, well, who did? And he was like, well,

450
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: let's check and see if anything's missing, because somebody must

451
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: have come in and done that. That's crazy. So he

452
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: looked around nothing it seemed to be missing. Our laptop

453
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: was their computers were there, all of our personal self

454
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: was there. We checked the doors. There wasn't any sign

455
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: of forced entry. It had called our manager, our apartment manager,

456
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: and asked her if anybody had stopped by the apartment

457
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: to maybe work on the ants stuff, and she said no.

458
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: She checked in with our maintenance guy. He hadn't come in,

459
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: and so we got really weirded out because it came

460
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: from a cabinet that had been closed a little backstory

461
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: is that we had had a neighbor above us pass

462
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: a few years ago, and she's a really sweet woman

463
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: and was going through a really tough cancer is situation.

464
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: She had cancer, she had gone through he remission, but

465
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: still her immune system was really poor and eventually succumbed

466
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: to an injury because her immune system couldn't fight it back.

467
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: While she did live in the apartment, though, my partner

468
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: just had really become really good friends with her, helped

469
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: her get groceries up the stairs, helped her like walking

470
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: up and down the stairs, or talked to her out

471
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: on the porch and just kept her company, and she

472
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: would text them sometimes and just let him know how

473
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: she was feeling. So we had known or had assumed

474
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: that she had come down to play with our three

475
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: new cats, because sometimes they would run around and chase

476
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: something that we couldn't really see, and so we had

477
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: just you know, we think that maybe she pulled out

478
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: the antheing to help us out because she knew how

479
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: much it stressed my partner and uh just wanted to

480
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: do a solid for us before the really hot summer came.

481
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: And that's my story. He let's get spooky, Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

482
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: I want to tell you about a famous story. It's

483
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: called the Van Meter Visitor.

484
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

485
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Ever heard about it?

486
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: No?

487
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: Okay, Well it took place in nineteen o three. Okay,

488
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: work in Van Meter, Iowa.

489
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

490
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: So here's how it started. This is a small little town,

491
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: four hundred people. There was an implement dealer named you G. Griffith.

492
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, what's an implement?

493
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: You know, like implements?

494
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay. I thought it was like one.

495
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: Specific thing like implements, implement and he dealt that.

496
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Okay, got it.

497
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: Okay. So he's over here money has his own business

498
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: one night okay, for a long day of dealing implements,

499
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: of course, and he notices up on top of a

500
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: building what looks like a spotlight, like someone's like shining

501
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: down a spotlight.

502
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

503
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, what's going on? Like I'm trying to sleep,

504
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: And he's about to go out there and be like

505
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: you mother, you know that, fucking thank you? I'm sure

506
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: the nineteen oh three version.

507
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

508
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: So he goes out there, he's all mad, and he

509
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: sees it jump off the roof to another roof, and

510
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: it's actually not just like some light. It's accompanied by

511
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: this huge creature whoa. This creature is about nine feet

512
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: tall and it has bat like wings. It has a

513
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: horn on its head and the horn is what is

514
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: shooting out the light and it moves super fast. It

515
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: has a terrible odor that it's just like spraying all

516
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: over town and then it kind of just disappeared, and

517
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: he's like what. So some reports say that he shot it,

518
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: shot at it, and that the bullets were.

519
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: Like nothing, It's just like shimmy down.

520
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: It's like literally giving us that. So the next night,

521
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: the town's doctor is sleeping in his office, which give

522
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: it up for healthcare workers, I mean sleeping in his

523
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: office long days of work, and same thing. He sees

524
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: this light outside and he grabs his gun and he

525
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: shoots at it five times. Nothing just like like it's metal.

526
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: It just goes off this creature. So you know, now

527
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: this this monster is just like yeah, literally, who is

528
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: that David Ghetta whatever? That song is titanium yey. So

529
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: now we get to night three and word is spreading

530
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: that there's this light monster and there's a man named

531
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: Clarence Done and he's the next person to experience her.

532
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna gender her as her please,

533
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Clarence done is done? Yea, he's not. He's he's heard

534
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: that this monster is terrorizing the city basically, which I

535
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: don't know. She's kind of minding her own business. I

536
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: don't know why they're shooting at it, but she's.

537
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Just shining a light, checking out.

538
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Light on the town. So he hears what sounds like

539
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: somebody outside is struggling and gagging. Okay, honey, they were gagging.

540
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: He was given it to them. So he goes outside

541
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: and there's the light and he shoots at it. Nothing

542
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: once again. And he goes out there the next day

543
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: and he finds three toed footprints that allegedly he makes

544
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: a plaster cast of Okay, though I looked it up

545
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: and nobody seems to know where those are. So I

546
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know.

547
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Okay, at least.

548
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I know, but at least two other people saw it

549
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: that night, including reports of it perched up on a

550
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: phone telephone pole and someone seeing it hop around like

551
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: a kangaroo until it made its way to the nearby

552
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: coal mines. And it's home, I mean, I think sowing

553
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: in the ground. Well, okay, so what one thing I

554
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: with pointing out all these guys. They were very respected,

555
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: like these were I mean we're talking doctors, and one

556
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: of them was a banker, Yes, a prominent implement dealer

557
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: of Van Meeter of course. So you know, that kind

558
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: of lends itself to the credibility of this story, even though,

559
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: like we don't know where this plaster two toad or

560
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: three toad footprints is, but either way, so now we're

561
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: at a point where they're getting their pitchforks and the

562
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: town is like, we gotta get this this creature. So

563
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: they heard noises. They go down to the coal mine

564
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and they're hearing crazy noises inside and she comes out.

565
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: She's like, what is it like, I'm just chatting in

566
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: my own business.

567
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: So she comes out of her coal mine and I'm like,

569
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: listening to myself, this is a real story.

570
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: I know, I'm fascinating.

571
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: So she comes out of her house. Yeah, and this

572
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: time she's got a little smaller version of herself me

573
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Andi me. Yeah, it's like very mini me. She has

574
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: like a four foot version of herself with her and

575
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: she is just like, what are you like my property?

576
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

577
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: She's her and her daughter just minding their own business.

578
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, of course these men are going crazy.

579
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: So they're shooting at her with her with her light

580
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: on her head and this is her she's got her

581
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: light on her.

582
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: Head, sireway higher away ricoshion.

583
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: So and her little child is joining in on the

584
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: it's a duet, honey, yes, harmony, harmonizing like only a

585
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: family can. And finally they're like, okay, you're done. Like

586
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: they run out of the bull woods and then they

587
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: go back inside. They're like, are we done here?

588
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

589
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: They go inside, and then apparently the townsmen dynamited the

590
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: entrances and lock them in, never to be seen from again.

591
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

592
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: See, it's funny because you and I are hearing this

593
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: story and we're like rooting for the but like in

594
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: nineteen o three, these people are like those are demon

595
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: like you know.

596
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: Well maybe, but I'm r But also like, yeah, they weren't.

597
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: They didn't find like sheep dead or anything like that.

598
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: They were just probably like what's happening? Who are all

599
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: these people?

600
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: Exactly? Maybe the mom was looking for implements.

601
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: She's probably looking for implements, and she probably was living underground.

602
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, all these people are digging in

603
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: her house and she's like, who are these.

604
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this.

605
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: And then they start shooting at her. She's like, what,

606
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to raise a family.

607
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Or you know, more maybe more likely that was like

608
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: her smaller husband.

609
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably more likely.

610
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, because I mean there would have had to

611
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: be another parent or I don't know, but.

612
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: That was most likely her husband.

613
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the credibility of this, so

614
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: you would think that there would be a way to

615
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: go in there and find.

616
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: The bones, yeah, something.

617
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Or maybe it found another way out and it got out,

618
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, moved, there's a maybe it moved.

619
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Maybe all they're like, I guess I'll move.

620
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we can take a hint. Okay. So there

621
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: was a paranormal investigator named Chad Lewis that wrote a

622
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: book about it called The Van Meter Visitor Colon A

623
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: True and Mysterious Encounter with the Unknown, which he wrote

624
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: alongside Kevin Lee Nelson. And I found a video online

625
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: that was kind of talking about possible nations. I guess

626
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: there's some kind of bat with a glow on its horn,

627
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: like as a horn that glows. That's called luminotrix, okay,

628
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: which I love. I love that, but not nine.

629
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: Feet no, and not four feet either exactly. So huh.

630
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: But here's something that's coincidental. If anyone here happens to

631
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: be in the Van Meter, Iowa area, on the twenty

632
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: fourth of September, the Van Meter Visitor Festival will be

633
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: taking place with guest speakers, vendors, a walking tour, and

634
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: a food truck provided by Snappy's Barbecue.

635
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

636
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: So if I was living over there, that's exactly where

637
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I would be.

638
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: I get some barbecue.

639
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: I actually love this creature. I don't find this see.

640
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: I thought this is gonna be kind of a creepier story.

641
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing.

642
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, she seems like just a cool gal ricochet. You

643
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: take your aim, and who's to say that that bat

644
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: isn't just a descendant. I'm mean, we evolved. You think

645
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: she can't evolve? Right, Maybe finally she can get out.

646
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: She's like, I guess I can't walk around, and maybe

647
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: if I fly around.

648
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: Exactly, they won't bother me. But I think that the

649
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: part because of course people also even in those days,

650
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was some person dressed up in costume

651
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: exactly and getting shot a million times. So I don't know.

652
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: But I also a lot of times of these creature stories,

653
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm always just like, well, it could just be like

654
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: an abnormal species of something. Yeah, that's like, why couldn't

655
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: there be just like a giant like Clifford. Okay, Clifford's

656
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: real Clifford. Clifford's a big dog, so why not be

657
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: a giant bat?

658
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Hey?

659
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: You want to hear some ghost voices?

660
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

661
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for h ev Pase. Have you ever

662
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: heard of an EVP?

663
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: Yes? But okay, only because of Demie's show.

664
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh you watched that?

665
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: No, I only watched the cliffs of singing back to her.

666
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I guess her singing to a ghost. Yeah, well this

667
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: is not that. Okay, Well this is okay. So what

668
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I do is I go to YouTube and I look

669
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: up EVPs electronic voice phenomena, and I find two of them,

670
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear, okay,

671
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you some options, the correct answer

672
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: being what the person that posted it believes it said.

673
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

674
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: This first one was posted by Stephen Lynn.

675
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Stephen.

676
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: It appears to be in his house. Okay, what is

677
00:37:52,520 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: it saying? Okay, it's like a whisper.

678
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Sounds like it's saying, I want to bath, I want.

679
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I kind of hear that. Okay, yeah, that's possible. That's

680
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: not what stephen.

681
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it's not surprised.

682
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: Sometimes, Okay is it? Ah? What the hell? B I'm

683
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: a grown man. He felt the need to say that.

684
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm a grown man.

685
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: Uh see, I'm Rafael. Huh or d what's that smell? Okay,

686
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: here we go.

687
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm Raphael.

688
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: That's what they say. Yeah, I'm Rapiel.

689
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm Rapiel.

690
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, sure, why not? Okay, here's another one.

691
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: This one was posted by Haunted Joe Horton. Thank you

692
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: hate Haunted Joe Horton. I don't know what the location

693
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: of this one is, but apparently it's a ghost saying something.

694
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: Whoa.

695
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, it's another kind of whisper. Sounds more feminine. Oh,

696
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: let's do it again. I hear something that is.

697
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: I hear she's scared now or she's here now, but

698
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: it sounds really I don't know. I don't.

699
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: She's here now? Okay, I do hear that?

700
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: Is that?

701
00:39:53,960 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: A ooh, bitch, she's serving is it be she's here

702
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: in the house. See, don't just stare and laugh or

703
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: de blue cheese smear it on trout.

704
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish it was that one. She's here in

705
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: the house.

706
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: I heard blue cheese smeared on trout?

707
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: Really okay, and I can hear that now too, But

708
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: I think she's saying she's here in the house. She

709
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: sounds so scared.

710
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: It is she's here in the house.

711
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's here.

712
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: In the house. Oh, I don't know who she is.

713
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what house.

714
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to sage my body after this.

715
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: No, you'll be fine. And it's just some audio.

716
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: She sounds so scared and sad.

717
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: Possibly, Oh, I'm gonna take these off.

718
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: Wow. I hope she's okay.

719
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Well, this is fun. So let's do one last thing.

720
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like rattle off some paranormally kind of stuff,

721
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me if you've had

722
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: an experience, if you have any thoughts, yeah, anything period? Bigfoot?

723
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Where are you at?

724
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's how I feel about Bigfoot?

725
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: Okay.

726
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: I know there was that documentary about it where it

727
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: could have just been like hippies like trying to grow meat.

728
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: Or something like that.

729
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: It's so hard when I feel like something is so

730
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: reinforced in the zeitgeist. It feels like a CIA like

731
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: a CIA syop, do you know what I mean? It

732
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: makes me doubtful, right, you know what I mean? I know,

733
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: And Bigfoot's just been around so much it feels oversaturated.

734
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: It's everywhere. Yeah, especially, But then again, like I kind

735
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: of believe in this big bad story that we read.

736
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: I believe for sure, but also I never heard that

737
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: before in my life.

738
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: But also like because she kind of did it right,

739
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: she like did her She had her moment around people.

740
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: She said these people, I'm fine without.

741
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Them, yes, and then dipped Yeah. Yeah.

742
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Bigfoot seems to poke her head around a little bit

743
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: more and just kind of.

744
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Like just be like, hey, I'm like, aren't you supposed

745
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: to be hiding.

746
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the woods, like you want to take a picture.

747
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: But I guess it could also just be like a

748
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: protector of the woods who like started coming out more

749
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: after we started chopping down the trees and was like, yo, okay.

750
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: My house again, this is my house.

751
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess it's a possibility.

752
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: She's coming out, honey, it's about time. Do you believe

753
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: in haunted dolls? The concept of a doll being haunted?

754
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

755
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Why?

756
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: Because I just think that, like you know, sometimes spirits

757
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: need a place to go in, you know, to buy

758
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: like a place, and there may be are just trying

759
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: to find something and when you're vel. Yeah, but if

760
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: it's in a doll, there's something that that person, I

761
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: think it's something that person did wrong where it's just

762
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: like you're trapped in something that's an adamant, like this

763
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: is a punishment in some way because you're not able

764
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: to have any free will.

765
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Not really, Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot of

766
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: things you wouldn't be able to do. Yeah, it would

767
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: feel weird. It feels kind of like being a human,

768
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: but like you can't like bend your no, you can't

769
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: like you can observe. Yeah.

770
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: And then also I guess like with dolls being something

771
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: that like children play with, and children are so receptive

772
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: to like more of a like what's happening spiritually around them,

773
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: especially with ghosts and stuff, because they're still so fresh

774
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: and haven't been tainted by everybody else's shit. But like,

775
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: you know, I fully believe in haunted dolls, but I

776
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: don't fuck with that shit.

777
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: Oh god, she scares me. What about synchronicities, yes, can

778
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: you think of any synchronicities in your life?

779
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: Well, I was just talking to my partner about like

780
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: just deja vu, which I think is like similar to synchronicities,

781
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: where it's like time isn't how we think of it

782
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: as like linear, you know, it's just happening constantly and

783
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: around us, and so sometimes I think with synchronicities are

784
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: like with deja vu, it's just like us somehow our

785
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: brains being able at one point to open up to

786
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: like the bigger time frame or like the time that's

787
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: happening always, and then that like coming together. So it's

788
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: like oh, okay, yeah, no I knew this happened or

789
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: I've felt this before because it already is happening.

790
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

791
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: So and then there was like an NPR my Okay,

792
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: I didn't listen to this, but my boss did and

793
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: was telling me about it, like an NPR thing where

794
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: it was like confirmed that that's like how time works.

795
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I believe it. Yeah, Okay, I just remembered.

796
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Can I read you a ghost story? Yes?

797
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: Please? All right.

798
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: This was submitted by a listener of this very podcast.

799
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: It was written in a five star review, which anyone

800
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: that listens to this podcast, if you gave me five stars,

801
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: you could tell me a ghost story that I could

802
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: read with a guest. Maybe this is coming from T

803
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: T and t T gave five stars and said some

804
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: very nice things about me. But then they write, My

805
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I moved into our first apartment together, the

806
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: attic of an old brick home built in eighteen eighty. Okay,

807
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: I loved it. The second I laid eyes on it,

808
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I was immediately comfortable. I even said, I'm sure I

809
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: lived here in a past life. So spooky stuff happens

810
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: right away, like corners of a room that never seemed

811
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: to get bright, or how many lights are on? Does

812
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: that mean that because there's like a dark ghost there?

813
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: Like the yeah, there's like someone there right oh, just

814
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: like hi?

815
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like can you please not shine your damn lights?

816
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: The feeling that you just missed seeing someone walk past

817
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: the doorway. I'd call it run of the mill light haunting. Yeah, sure,

818
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: just typical stuff. Then one day I'm home alone, rushing

819
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: to get ready for work. I walked through the room

820
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: intended to be the living room. It was so small

821
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: we used the second bedroom as our living room. I

822
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: hear a loud whisper ask how old are you? It's

823
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: kind of rude. I don't think you should do that.

824
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: I froze for a second, and then I ran to

825
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: the bedroom. I text my friend and tell her what happened.

826
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: She asked me if I answered the voice. I said no.

827
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: Then I thought about it. That I thought more about it.

828
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I guess I should answer. I wrote my age on

829
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: a piece of paper and I threw it in the

830
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: room and then ran for the door for work. Time passes.

831
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: The usual creepy but not scary feeling continues. One Saturday morning,

832
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm laying in bed in that state before you wake up,

833
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: and you're not fully dreaming. I try to turn over,

834
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: but my hand was being held. I say to my boyfriend, Sean,

835
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: let go in my hand. Nothing. I say it again

836
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: and again, but no response. I start to panic and yell,

837
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: let go, let go, Sean. I begin to visualize a

838
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: woman sitting next to my bed. She has a typical

839
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Gibson girl. She has the dark hair all piled on

840
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: her head. Then I realize I'm facing away from him,

841
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: and the hand that is being held is hanging out.

842
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: Of the bed.

843
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I yelled as I opened my eyes to become full Awake, Mary,

844
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: it's Mary, she's this person, says, and my hand and

845
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: let go. And I rock back a little, then bolt

846
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: upright and start crying. My boyfriend wakes up and asks

847
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: what's wrong, and if I'm okay, I start to tell

848
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: him what happened. He stops me and reminds me he

849
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear about that stuff.

850
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Just reminding you, I don't want to hear about.

851
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: That A little reminder. I know I asked, but I

852
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it. Okay, and the tet writes,

853
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: don't worry, we're no longer dating.

854
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, good. Yeah.

855
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: So months go by, we run into our landlord. I

856
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: ask him the age and history of the house. He

857
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: told me how our apartment used to be his music room,

858
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: and he's just like trying to tell you about his

859
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: music here.

860
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a couple EPs.

861
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you ever heard of Spotify, a lot of

862
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: great stuff was made in your room. Okay, that's not

863
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: what we're asking. We wanted to know the history, and

864
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: he would get himself all worked up because he would

865
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: see a woman walk by the doorway all the time.

866
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: He said that she was wearing a long skirt with

867
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: a high collar white blouse, and I knew it was Mary.

868
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

869
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Okay, if you were in that situation, would you stick around?

870
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like so. I mean, like,

871
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: obviously the spirits are there to reach out and speak

872
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: to somebody, But then it also feels like, isn't that

873
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: their home? It makes me feel like an intruder or

874
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: something like that. But if they're trying to talk to

875
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Speaker 2: you and trying to.

876
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're paying rent, yeah, like you legally

877
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: are living there.

878
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: You are living there. It just is like I guess,

879
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: like those situations make me nervous only because like I

880
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: think being open to that kind of like uh kind

881
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: of like spiritual it just makes me nervous because I'm

882
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: like I can't be everything for everybody, you know what

883
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I would just be so invested in

884
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: trying to help out this spirit that it's like, oh, yeah,

885
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: what I don't have the time out of the energy.

886
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm here in my house. I'm trying to relax.

887
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: That's a commitment you don't want to have to deal

888
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: with trying to cross someone over.

889
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: While they're like holding my hand. It's like that's really intimate.

890
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: That's very intimate.

891
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: But also I'm in your space, so I understand.

892
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't get to hold my hand exactly

893
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: your ass when I'm just sleeping and you're gonna touch me.

894
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah and hold my hand where I'm like lego, babe.

895
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: No, you're in my house though, Yeah, and it's.

896
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: Like okay, but also eighteen nineties, it's two thousand and

897
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 2: it's been a while.

898
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: That's a long time.

899
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: It's been like over one hundred years.

900
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: But I'm sure Mary was just like, hey, at least

901
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: I don't have to listen to that mixtape.

902
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like bank, turn back.

903
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: To a music room. Hey, tell people what you got

904
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: going on?

905
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I have a monthly at the

906
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Allusion with my husband called Late Night Talk Show, and

907
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: it's just like we themed you know, late night theme ship,

908
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, classic great. And then we also have a

909
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: podcast that we barely record. I don't think we recorded

910
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: since April, but it's their babe. There's about catalog back catalog.

911
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: It's called Mama Hits, you know, some more weed, and

912
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: then just yeah, follow my socials. I'm around just doing

913
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: shows all the time, having fun.

914
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: I love a puckast about weed. That's like it's been

915
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: a couple of months since we've done it, so long

916
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: since we feel like that makes sense.

917
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: It's it's the vibe, it's on brand.

918
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, well, and I strongly recommend people

919
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: see you live because you are so funny.

920
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: I just love to have fun on stage.

921
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, I have fun.

922
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: I love.

923
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Cameron Farmer. Be sure to

924
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: look out for that video version of this if you

925
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: would like to watch that version instead, or some of

926
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: the other video versions. They're all on YouTube from the

927
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks and Patreon, patroon dot com, slash rolls,

928
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: dress Flees for a full length episode. I actually just

929
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: did one about Iowa, and that was kind of why

930
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: the van meter visitor was on my mind. I didn't

931
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: talk about that on Patreon, but I was going into Iowa,

932
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: go through all the different states looking for paranormal things

933
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: to talk about. I am trying my darnedest to get

934
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: out there on TikTok and Instagram doing the reels and

935
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, maybe it has to do

936
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: with a certain psychic Charmargoliz telling me that I should

937
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: should probably get out there more, which I've also known

938
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: I need to do. So if you want follow me,

939
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put out more comedy and clips from

940
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: the pod and stuff like that. It's at raz Hernandez

941
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok wait no TikTok and Twitter is

942
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: at its ras Hernandez. Yeay, Hey it's Halloween. Tell your

943
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: friends about the show. I love you so much, my DearS.

944
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I think that's about it from me. I love you all,

945
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

946
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me, kaybye. But if I

947
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

948
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Speaker 4: Kay bye.

949
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Speaker 1: A podcast network