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Speaker 2: We're on the cuss.

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Speaker 1: They're hungry to get better.

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Speaker 3: Peers letting right, Spindo barrels his way down on the

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Speaker 2: Want to run by Piers.

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Speaker 1: These are the type of guys, the type of men

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Speaker 2: Tend her Sap Beitch, Christian Harris.

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Speaker 3: Game d is every day love the energy picked up

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Speaker 2: Texans have the ball on the pit.

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Speaker 4: And if you want it, you gotta go work it now.

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Speaker 2: It's Texans All xys, Hello Texans, and welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Here on the Hunting a Texans Radio Studio at NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer with you.

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Speaker 3: Drew Doherty and dB Situ are going to join us

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Speaker 3: in the next segment. Plenty of OTA talk going on there,

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Speaker 3: including but not limited to Texans opponents. We'd like to

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Speaker 3: see retire. That's kind of a memory of the Andrew

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Speaker 3: a bunch of other stuff as well. But I wanted

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Speaker 3: to begin the show with my good buddy Russell Baxter

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Speaker 3: used to work for ESPN and Chris Berman and has

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Speaker 3: multiple platforms going at Backs football Guru on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Russell.

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Speaker 3: Great to begin the show with you. It's been a

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Speaker 3: the third Shifters. But what about the league that doesn't sleep?

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Speaker 3: It never ends. I know you cover it all the time.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy following you on Twitter, but the NFL machine

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean. I mean. Ever since

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Speaker 1: So many signings, still seeing signs today, Leonard Floyd going

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Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty five days a year and three

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Speaker 3: Football Guru on Twitter. That's Bax Football Guru on Twitter. Russell,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, five and one on the road, which is just bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's more often a surprise Mark that they don't send

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Speaker 1: Well, we have seen other professional leagues, the CFL and

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Speaker 3: of a historical information here with Norma Hunt, the wife

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Speaker 3: of Lamar Hunt, who founded the Kansas City Chiefs, originally

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Speaker 1: Well, it is astounding that it used to be that

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm in the middle of writing some historic pieces

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Speaker 1: You might be too physical for.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Let's catch up soon.

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Speaker 3: There's my buddy, Russell Baxter at bas Football Guru on

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Speaker 3: Mark VanderMeer with Deep City and Drew Doherty, And let's

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Speaker 6: with all the money you've invested in him and his

437
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 6: contract and what he means up for the offense, I'd

438
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 6: put him in bubble rap.

439
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

440
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 5: That's easily easily And this guy is the opposite of

441
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: when he's on the field being in bubble wrap.

442
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: But Damian Pierce shining back.

443
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 5: I want him to have as little contact with anyone

444
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 5: as possible because I want him to save it, save

445
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: that punishment that he dishes out and doles out and

446
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: unfortunately has to take in some form and fashion. I

447
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 5: want him in bubble rap because he is so exciting

448
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 5: and electric after what we saw had this time last year.

449
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 5: Think about it, the very brief times that he he was,

450
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 5: you know, doing stuff in OTAs is like he's got

451
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 5: a little something. And then you got to training camp

452
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 5: before the games, and boy, he got to the second

453
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: level pretty quickly. And then he gets in the preseason

454
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 5: games and just explodes, and we saw what he did

455
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 5: in the regular season.

456
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 6: I don't know about you, but like I felt like

457
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 6: in training camp, while he looked impressive, I was like, Okay, fine,

458
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 6: he looks good, but we'll see during.

459
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: A game action.

460
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 6: I feel like still during the preseason games, that first

461
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 6: preseason game where he was out, I think we just

462
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 6: saw him and thought, oh my, oh my gosh, yeah

463
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 6: he is the real.

464
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 5: Team because he's like, we've seen enough. He's our guy.

465
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 5: He didn't say that, but basically that's what he was saying.

466
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: He literally bubble wrapped up.

467
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: Yees.

468
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: No, he didn't literally do it. He figurative, right, I

469
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: love it.

470
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 6: How literally is literally he've overre well. You know Lamar

471
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 6: Miller back in the preseason game against Dallas, like that

472
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 6: does break your heart because he was just never the

473
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 6: same again after that. He had had such a phenomenal camp,

474
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 6: so you're bus and he was, Yeah, he was just

475
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 6: he was just having a phenomenal camp. Just a big

476
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 6: part of the run game. But I think when you

477
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 6: see something like that happen, I'm totally with you, that

478
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 6: was a.

479
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: History changer because you lose Lamar Miller week three of

480
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: the preseason in twenty nineteen, and then they had to

481
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: make move for another back that got Carlos Hide in

482
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: the trade and Hide at a really great year.

483
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah it did. You never know what would have

484
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: happened with Miller.

485
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: Would Miller have an even better year that many years

486
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: in the Texan system, or whatever the case may be.

487
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: Maybe they did better off with Hyde. Who knows.

488
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: But it does change history, and it forces you to

489
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: make acquisitions that you might not normally make.

490
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 4: Think about that night.

491
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: Not to veer off course here, but he gets hurt

492
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: maybe on the third or fourth play of the preseason game,

493
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 5: and the wind gets sucked out of that textan side's.

494
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: An awful game.

495
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: Horrible, horrible, horrible.

496
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 5: But I was just talking about this with my boys.

497
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: They were asking me about it this weekend. Just a

498
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: few moments after that happens, the tweet comes out from

499
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: Adam Schefter about Andrew Luck retiring, And.

500
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Speaker 2: That was my best preseason memory ever.

501
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: What a night man got to do?

502
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, favorite preseason memories Andrew Luck retiring.

503
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 5: Think about that, though, I mean, that is wild night

504
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 5: because then you knew, you instantly knew the division will

505
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 5: go through the Texans. Yeah, you're not necessarily gonna win it,

506
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 5: but it goes to the Texans because they'd lost their

507
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: quarterback to the Colts.

508
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: I've got a bubble wrap player from a level below. Okay, right,

509
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: because Pierce, look, he was on his way to well

510
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: over a thousand yards. We know that Laramie is Laramie.

511
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: He's a multi pro bowler. What about Nico Collins. I

512
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: cannot afford an injury to him because I think he

513
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: is poised to have a really big year. I look

514
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 3: at a bit practice, some of the catches he's making.

515
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: Everybody freaked out about that. Social media posted video that

516
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: Texans put up with Nico catching a ball from CJ.

517
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: Strat It was awesome. We've seen a lot of that

518
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 3: kind of stuff out there, and he can catch the

519
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: ball in traffic. It's catch radius is big. He's got

520
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: good hands, he's got speed, he's got it all. He's

521
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: just got to stay out there. If he can stay

522
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 3: out there with this offense, with this kind of coaching,

523
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun to watch bubble rap Nico Collins.

524
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: He looks a little bigger, a little more yoked up,

525
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: you know, kind of by what he's been doing in

526
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: the offseason. So maybe maybe the bubble rap is helped

527
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: out or that is a form of bubble wrap the

528
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 5: biggest stature on his frame.

529
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: Yea yeah, And I think just with the injuries that

530
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 6: he's dealt with, like every year, he's always out for

531
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: a few games here and there, maybe that'll, you know,

532
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 6: just to help him out in the long run, just

533
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 6: getting a little bit of extra rest in training him.

534
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay, you had one more for for me, all right,

535
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: So you brought up Andrew Luck retiring TP, So give

536
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: me a player. You each get to pick a player

537
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: that retires this preseason.

538
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 6: You want to see retire Actually not from the Texans.

539
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Obviously, cool.

540
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: We want to see an opponent retire. I have somebody

541
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: very specific in mind that i'd love to see retire,

542
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: but I want to see what you guys think, and

543
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: we can pick the same player. But you get to

544
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: anoint somebody as a retiree, and no.

545
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: Bad things happen.

546
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: They get a great severance package, retirement package. They're just

547
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: not going to play. It's for their own safe.

548
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: Listen, this guy needs to stop playing because Panteen needs

549
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: a fantastic hair model. So Trevor Lawrence please retire. You

550
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: get your severance, you get your pay, You've got your

551
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: The world needs you as a hair model more than

552
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 5: they need you as a quarter How about this Jacksonville Jaguars.

553
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: How many more romance novel covers can Fabio pose for now?

554
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: You need Trevor Lawrence to be the guy in those covers.

555
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think people are buying books anymore. They're

556
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: just reading them digital. I still read maybe the digital books.

557
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: I see them in the stores though.

558
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the covers are hilarious and the titles are even better.

559
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: The mark's going to rattle some off the ranch keeper.

560
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm just making.

561
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: A man wearing a blouse that's you.

562
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: Know, the muscles are coming through in the in his

563
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: arms like some flowers.

564
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, wist, swim.

565
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 6: I don't know how to make this transition. I was

566
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 6: going to ask for Bobby should retire.

567
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: I think you did.

568
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 6: Derrick Henry Titans. He might be almost there, he might

569
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 6: be there with all the injuries he suffered. But every time,

570
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 6: every time the textan display him, it's like a gazillion

571
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: yards eighteen touchdowns and you know it. And he still

572
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 6: is able to do that, other than the games where

573
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 6: he's hurt and he doesn't play against Texans, but I'm

574
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: ready for him to retire.

575
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: That would be nice, Derek.

576
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 6: What were the Titans do? I mean the whole offense runs.

577
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: Chexans played him well in Tennessee and the cole last year.

578
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: Remember they got Jake.

579
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: Hanson Street on how many yards he had? How many

580
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty?

581
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: That was a day, A key, key fumble at at

582
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: the end of the game.

583
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I know, I know, and you're right, he's all they

584
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: had that day.

585
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Yea.

586
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: So it was kind of like Jokich with Denver, Right,

587
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: he scores a bunch of points, but he doesn't get

588
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: the assists, doesn't get the help from his teammates, and

589
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: Miami wins game two.

590
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: Right.

591
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: It was like that with Henry on Christmas Eve where

592
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: he got a ton of yards, but it wasn't the

593
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: two hundred.

594
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Remember holding him below two hundred.

595
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: We're putting up a banner, by the way, hell, Derrick

596
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: Henry below two.

597
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: Were not the Indianapolis.

598
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Put up a banner for that one.

599
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: But who's your bubble?

600
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: I was going to pick or the retirement? You mean

601
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: going to protect? Yes, bubble wrapped Derrick Henry. Now I

602
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: was going to retire Derrick Henry because he's the most

603
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 3: frightening non quarterback I've ever seen play against the Texans

604
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: on a consistent basis, even worse than Tye and t

605
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Y Hilton was pretty bad.

606
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: T Y Hilton he retired.

607
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: It's one and two as far as non quarterbacks that

608
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: have terrorized the Texans, I feel like every time we

609
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: face them. Darren Sproles is another guy who would make

610
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: my top five. Just cannot see him anymore. Obviously you

611
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: won't see him anymore. I hope Deuce Vaughan doesn't replace him,

612
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: although he's going to be in Dallas. I kind of wanted,

613
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: kind of I was very vocal about wanting the Texans

614
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: to take Vaughn. I figured once they took Tank Dell,

615
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: that was it for the diminutive killer players, Right, You're

616
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: only going to take one per draft, and it was

617
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: Tank Dell this year.

618
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

619
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: But if I'm going to get another pick here and

620
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: a player to retire, I'll go to the Colts and

621
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: do I want Quentin Nelson or Jonathan Taylor?

622
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: You guys picked me.

623
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 6: He's my one A and I want to retire all.

624
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: The ready, had he not gotten injured, you could also

625
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: gone with Shaq Leonard.

626
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Shaq Leonard, I know he was really.

627
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: On a tear there over that span of however many games.

628
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: I mean, just he would always come up with it

629
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: seemed like with a force fumble or a fumble.

630
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: Recovery or a pick.

631
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh he's a Texans killer.

632
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I feel like for his safety he

633
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: should retire as well.

634
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: Shaq Leonard.

635
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: No, in all serious seriousness, though, I think he's in

636
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: a bit of trouble here health wise. You know, you

637
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: hope for his sake he can get back. But you know,

638
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: I hate to make fun of people's health situations. We're

639
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: just having fun.

640
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: But I would go with Taylor from the original question.

641
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: That's why I would go with He's because he's more notable.

642
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 5: You see him more than you do Quentin Nelson. Not

643
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: to diminish Quentin Nelson's you know, effectiveness or value, But

644
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: I would go with Taylor.

645
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: There was a time when I thought James Robinson was

646
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: going to do that for Jacksonville, Like he was going

647
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: to be this terrorizing running back for years, and then

648
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: they get ETN and all of a sudden, James Robinson

649
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: is expendable and doesn't really amount to much.

650
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: Now it's not over for him. He could always come

651
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: back and do something.

652
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: So we'll see, all right, awards that we want to

653
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: give out eventually, the Training Camp Star Award we need

654
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: to know and I don't mind getting people's thoughts on

655
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: this at Texan's Voice on Twitter if you want to

656
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: weigh in.

657
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: But the Camp Star.

658
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Every year there's at least one or two stars of

659
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: Training Camp. And we're not at training camp yet. We're

660
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Speaker 3: OTA's and nobody can see OTA's right, but they're gonna

661
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Speaker 3: be able to watch training camp practices a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of them.

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Speaker 3: So should it be named the Travis Labhart Award or

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Speaker 3: Star Gene?

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Speaker 5: Gotta save lab Heart for another award that I just

666
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Speaker 5: thought of started this, so that's right.

667
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: Labhart is off the board.

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Speaker 3: So should the camp start and preseason games can be included?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Should be probably.

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Speaker 3: But Star Jean, the guy who's gonna have the award

672
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: named after him?

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Speaker 6: Do people remember lit?

674
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Star Gene well seasoned and you don't even know Texans.

675
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: Fans will for sure, but you got a lot of

676
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: younger fans kind of coming into the fold.

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Speaker 5: And I think the guys over the battle Red Blog

678
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 5: they named were nicknamed Lestarjeen camp Star camp les Star

679
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: did he did wind up catching on and playing a

680
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: season or two and he caught a touchdown pass. But yeah,

681
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: he made his bones in August and really put up

682
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: big numbers and big plays in August. But you know,

683
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Speaker 5: once September rolled around, you were going to Andre Johnson,

684
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Speaker 5: you were going to Jacobe Jones and Kevin Walter and

685
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 5: those guys, and Owen Daniels is a tight end ahead

686
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: of Lastar for the most part.

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Speaker 6: I think you have to also have an award for

688
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: an undrafted that really makes his name, so whether that's

689
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Speaker 6: aj Boyer or Arian Foster. But Arian Foster didn't really

690
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 6: do a lot in camp, right, it was more after.

691
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Speaker 2: It was all right, So this is two thousand and nine,

692
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: he's a rookie.

693
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: The team had proven that they could run the ball

694
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Speaker 3: with a lot of different types of players. Ron Dane

695
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Speaker 3: in seven O six, well seven for the most part,

696
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: and then yet Steve Slayton in eight and he was

697
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: coming back in nine, so you thought Slayton's going to

698
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: be the guy led the AFC and yards for scrimmage.

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00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: So Arian was just a god guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on practice squad un till like mid

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Speaker 4: to late November.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so maybe that's an award a guy that seems

704
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: very unassuming but becomes a superstar. But becomes a superstar,

705
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Speaker 6: I mean, I would define like looking into looking into

706
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Speaker 6: the future.

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Speaker 5: And still my first impressions of Arian Foster remain early

708
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: September walking through the locker room to talk to somebody,

709
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: maybe it was Andre or Shop that end of the

710
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 5: locker room, and just Arian Foster sitting at his locker

711
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: kind of watching the media walk past with not an.

712
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 4: Amused look, but just sort of a what's going on here?

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00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: And I do.

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Speaker 5: That's what I my first memory of him, more so

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Speaker 5: than anything on the field. I don't remember anything during

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Speaker 5: training camp or the preseason games, not to take away

717
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: from what he was doing, but nothing stood out, nothing

718
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 5: stood out, But then boy, he stood out once he

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Speaker 5: finally started getting the ball.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go look up his numbers in the preseason

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Speaker 3: games because I don't remember him really flashing in those

722
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: preseason games, but they clearly saw plenty.

723
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Speaker 4: Because it was on the practice. It was Chris Brown.

724
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Speaker 5: Chris Brown, yes there was a Chris Henry was in there.

725
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Speaker 5: He also had Ryan Motes had a game, you know,

726
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Speaker 5: with a one hundred yards against the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Motes did some things very good. Recalled he was

728
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: about the fifth award.

729
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: Arian Foster was about the fifth running back in that

730
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Speaker 5: rotation eventually, and then he you know, in Decemmary he

731
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 5: changed minds and changed thoughts. But there were a lot

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Speaker 5: of guys that had their chances before he did.

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Speaker 6: What if we did like an offensive and defense, If

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Speaker 6: you can make Arion the offensive Arian Foster Award and

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Speaker 6: then do aj Boyer for the defense.

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Speaker 2: I like Aj Boyer.

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Speaker 6: I liked him a lot too, and I felt like

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Speaker 6: he also didn't really flash that much in camp.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, he well in camp, but remember the preseason.

740
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he picked off a pass it against the Cowboys

741
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: up there. And then in his rookie year, his rookie year,

742
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: and then danced on the Star and he was was

743
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: not happy about that.

744
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: Wade was not happy.

745
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: No, But the year he really blasted off was twenty fifteen, right,

746
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: he was outstanding, really took off that year. I think

747
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: there should be a Kareem Jackson Award too. And this

748
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: is for a highly drafted player who doesn't look so

749
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: hot the first year and Kareem took a lot of

750
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: grief but then becomes.

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Speaker 2: This long time I don't want to say star.

752
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: But just huge contributor. And he was a star here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's just call what it was. On a

754
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: team with a lot of really good players, he was

755
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: one of them, and he had kjack TV and everything,

756
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 3: and I don't know who that would be this year. Again,

757
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: we're not naming the award winners. We're just naming the

758
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: awards the world. But I'm gonna have a Kareem Jackson Award,

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: all right.

760
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 5: I gotta hop back in with my idea here, because

761
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: every like twice a year I make the joke about

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: Mark that he has a fetish for ranking the top

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Speaker 5: preseason moments in history.

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Speaker 6: We made him do it once for an exercise and

765
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 6: he had so much fun.

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Speaker 4: With We loved it. He's done it probably about your article.

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Speaker 6: And he really like whipped whipped a whole article out.

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Speaker 5: So the Savage lab Heart Award goes to the best

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Speaker 5: preseason perflormance play in team history. As you remember in

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen Texans at Broncos in the preseason. I say,

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00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 5: as you remember, as you've probably forgotten anyways, Tom Savage

772
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: led the Texans on a touchdown drive to win it

773
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 5: at the end. I think they got a two pointer

774
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 5: in there as well, but he hits Travis Labhart, and yeah,

775
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: the Texans left Denver victorious.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm looking at last year's preseason.

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Speaker 4: The game was a pretty good game.

778
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: Jeff Driscoll throwing a six yard touchdown pass to Johnny Johnson,

779
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, to put the Texans ahead and enable them

780
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: to win seventeen thirteen was a huge moment in franchise history.

781
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: Preseason's in a Savage Labhart Award winner.

782
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: Though, no, it's not because that was on the road

783
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: against Denver and Peyton Manning watching on the sidelines and

784
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: they needed the two point conversion to win. Bill goes

785
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: for two because if you don't make it, you go home.

786
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: Everybody's playing overtime, You're going home, no matter what, nobody's

787
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: playing overtime.

788
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: I know he's only in a second year, but we

789
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 6: have to name a Damian Pierce Award for the same reason. Like,

790
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a guy that really shines during a

791
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: preseason game.

792
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 4: And then backs it up and then backs aft during

793
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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 6: I would like to have an award named after him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've got notes on all of these and we

796
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Speaker 3: will wait.

797
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 6: I've got one more. I've got a miscellaneous award. Maybe

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 6: we called the segue Award. Do you remember back in

799
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 6: twenty thirteen, Arian Foster gifted all the o lignement segues, right,

800
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: and everyone was racing up and down.

801
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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to talk about things that

802
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: are no longer allowed on the facility's property.

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00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 5: That is per Okay, there's a big myth out there

804
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: that O'Brien came in and banned all this.

805
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: He did not do that. That was an energy park.

806
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: Safety violations law that came up that the Texans had

807
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: been breaking. Those guys had been breaking that law, and

808
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 5: they kind of got finally they got reminded, listen, can't.

809
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: Do these liability issue. Get off those Some of those

810
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: guys are flying down the sidewalks on the way to

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Speaker 3: Press Huge.

812
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: It was like, how are they not? How was Dwayne

813
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 6: Brownnock tipping.

814
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: Over Mario Williams eleven feet tall on a segway.

815
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Speaker 6: But the purpose of the award isn't to name things

816
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 6: that are going to be illegal. It's more a camp

817
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 6: oddity that you'll look back and say, oh, that's so

818
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. The bicycles from two years ago, when

819
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 6: all the offensive coaches were riding bicycles.

820
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Speaker 2: Danny Barrett is still here, and he's still on a bike.

821
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Speaker 6: He started it, and then I remember I remember talking

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Speaker 6: to love because Lovey was a defensive coordinator, and I said,

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Speaker 6: why is it that all the offensive coaches have bikes

824
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Speaker 6: but none of the defensive coaches have bikes? And he said, well,

825
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just like to get my steps in.

826
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Speaker 6: But I thought that was very strange that only the

827
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: offensive coaches. But there's going to be something that comes

828
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 6: out in camp this year that I asked to any

829
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Speaker 6: other camp.

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Speaker 3: I'm tempted to bring a bike this year and just

831
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Speaker 3: roll it right here into the studio and then r

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Speaker 3: right not yeah, don't need a lock to have a

833
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: bike go up and down the ramps, you know, do

834
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Speaker 3: it that way Green Bay style. See how it goes.

835
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Speaker 3: Have a kid ride it? Oh wait a minute, you

836
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Speaker 3: ride the kids. But I don't know what happens. All right,

837
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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, guys. Thanks coming up Colts investigation interesting

838
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: also value two of the franchisees how to the Texans

839
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: stack up against other sports franchises in the world and

840
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. It's next here on Texans Radio. So

841
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: much to do, so little time here on Texans All Access.

842
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: Johnny should be back tomorrow and we'll have an OTA

843
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: practice tomorrow to talk about as well some other things

844
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: to discuss from around the league. The Cults are reportedly

845
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: undergoing an investigation, not the team, but a player on

846
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: the team, not to be named yet anyway, and Mike

847
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: Florio reposted this from sportshandle dot com. I don't go

848
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: on sportshandle dot com ever, Floria's attitude about this, and

849
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: I like Mike, but the attitude about this. The NFL

850
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: and its teams have not done a great job of

851
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: educating players about the clear rules and stern consequences of

852
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: the gambling policy. Look, they've said what they've said. There's

853
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Speaker 3: a difference between what this player is accused of allegedly

854
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: and say, placing a bet on the Masters or something

855
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: which you're really not supposed to do, by the way,

856
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Speaker 3: as league member, and I don't bet, I'm not allowed

857
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: to bet either, by the way, But this player is

858
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: reportedly under investigation for placing bets on the Colts. I

859
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: don't know which way, but one way or another. So

860
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: that goes a level deeper. And you've got to be

861
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: an idiot to be in this league and not understand

862
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: at least that it's one thing. And look, it's very

863
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: clear not to gamble at all when you're working for

864
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: the NFL or for an NFL team, very clear, just

865
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: don't do it. But some nuances. I can understand the

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: confusion of Hey, I bet on cricket in India. I

867
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: didn't know that was a problem. It was on a website.

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00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: Whatever the case may be. Even that's unacceptable, but to

869
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: bet on your team, hello, McFly. These players are too

870
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: young to know about Pete Rose and things like that,

871
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: but they are briefed on the rules, trust me. So

872
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: we'll see where this goes. It's in the early stages.

873
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: Just broke today. Another thing that broke over the weekend

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Speaker 3: the Forbes list of the most profitable sports franchises in

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00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: the world. And we've seen the Forbes list of the

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00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: most valuable sports teams in the world. This is profitable.

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00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: And how do you think the Texans stack up in

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Speaker 3: this little ditty?

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Speaker 2: Very well?

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are number one, followed by the Patriots, Tottenham Hotspur,

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Speaker 3: the Knicks, Manu and then the Texans at number six

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Speaker 3: on the planet most Profitable. This, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say it surprised me. It doesn't surprise me that the

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Speaker 3: Texans are so valuable, but to see them as high

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Speaker 3: as six on this list, and it's not just in

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Speaker 3: the world, it's in the NFL. Right You're the third

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Speaker 3: most profitable team in the league. That is fantastic stuff.

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Speaker 3: And it shows you the value of the franchise and

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Speaker 3: a market of this stature. Houston is such a dynamic

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Speaker 3: economic market, so that shouldn't be a shock to us

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Speaker 3: that the Texans are so valuable and profitable in a

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Speaker 3: market like this. Run the way they are, and I

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Speaker 3: know on the field that has and so great in

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Speaker 3: raising years.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to go.

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Speaker 3: Over that, but headed in the right direction for sure.

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Speaker 3: What other NFL teams are in the top ten? The

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Speaker 3: Giants check in at eight, and the Rams check in

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Speaker 3: they're out of the top ten at eleven. And that's

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Speaker 3: all I have in front of me right here. One

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Speaker 3: thing to point out though, and I always look at

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Speaker 3: this on the Forbes list as well, the Texans are

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Speaker 3: the only team to be as ranked as high as

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Speaker 3: they are with never having won a championship, and it

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Speaker 3: says something about the way the organization has been run

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Speaker 3: from a business sense over the course of its history.

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Speaker 3: Now to you listening, you're thinking, I don't care VanderMeer,

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Speaker 3: I want championships. Believe me, the mcnairs want championships. Everybody

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Speaker 3: wants championships. They're working on it and they'll continue to

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Speaker 3: work on it. Tomorrow as OTAs continue, we'll have a

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Speaker 3: lot to say about that. Thanks so much for listening,

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Speaker 3: Have a great night. This show is going to be

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Speaker 3: up on podcasts soon enough. Go Texans.