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Speaker 4: All Right, Seas, Rising Up, Jim You, rising Vision, flurring Rage,

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Speaker 5: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: And Ron Wolfley, it doesn't get any better than that

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Speaker 5: You know what, diploma's being handed out left and right

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Speaker 5: tis the graduation season, Ron Wolfley, Yes, you know what

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Speaker 5: you need? Yes you need a quote. Paully Profound has

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Speaker 5: this one from Ralph Waldo Emerson.

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Speaker 1: I need a lot more than that, pulp.

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Speaker 5: What lies behind us and what lies before us are

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Speaker 5: the beauty of their dreams. Graduation, Ron Wolfley, is not

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Speaker 5: santan Ford, Paul Calvicre, Ron Wolfley. There Cody Simon, just

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Speaker 5: But yes, Ron Wolfley, it does feel like twenty eight

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Speaker 1: And Paully, there's no doubt about it anyway you Parses,

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Speaker 1: anyway you look at it. The Orizona Cardinals roster, this

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Speaker 1: the big year coming up, Pauli. We all understand it.

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Speaker 1: It's been the Detroit Lions model for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think this is the Arizona Cardinals model as well.

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Speaker 1: In the first year, Pauli, they went out in free

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Speaker 5: Ian Rapaport, NFL Now Work and I quote Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 4: He's dragged down immediately by Cody Simon and down he goes.

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Speaker 10: Taking proof throughout the year, he had really strong playoffs

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Speaker 5: How you doing about a month into your Arizona tenures.

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Speaker 11: So far, it's going great. It's a great transition transition

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Speaker 5: You learned anything about Arizona? Have you run into a

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Speaker 11: The first thing I learned was definitely the heat, and

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Speaker 5: All right, So right off the bat, it's interesting you

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Speaker 5: Did you get better over the course of the last season?

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Speaker 5: linebacker in the NFL. Have you study the other NFL linebackers.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the years, Yeah, and we did a great job

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Speaker 11: I think at Ohio State where we would watch a

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Speaker 11: lot of NFL tape just to understand concepts and understand,

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Speaker 11: you know, even just turnovers and the points of emphasis

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Speaker 11: about a football game. And you know, I would we

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Speaker 11: watch guys like Tomorrow David In like Matt Milano. But

444
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Speaker 11: some some really good linebackers, some of the people at

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Speaker 11: top of their of their game, and you want to

446
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Speaker 11: see what they do because if you can mirror that stuff,

447
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Speaker 11: you can be one of those guys. And you know,

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Speaker 11: I've watched a lot of great linebackers, and I just

449
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Speaker 11: try to take a little pieces and parts of everybody's

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Speaker 11: game and make it my own. And that's that's pretty

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Speaker 11: much what I've been doing.

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Speaker 5: Now, we've been talking with the rookies about making the

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Speaker 5: jump to the NFL, and we're on board with Cody

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Speaker 5: Simon right now. How about making the jump from high

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Speaker 5: school to an Ohio State practice. Marvin Harrison Junior was

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Speaker 5: sitting right there a year ago. He said, as a

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Speaker 5: young guy, he would compete in the room and they

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Speaker 5: had a board in the room, all the all the

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Speaker 5: receivers in the Ohio State receiver room, and it was

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Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigma, Garrett Wilson, Chris Slave like Jamison

461
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Speaker 5: Williams was there for a moment before he transferred to Alabama.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy. That's five first round receivers. What is practice

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Speaker 5: like at Ohio State?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the only best way I could describe it was

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Speaker 11: that I had to be on every little thing in

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Speaker 11: my outside life to even have a chance with those guys.

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Speaker 11: And you know, so that that made me better as

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Speaker 11: a player though, because that made me take take care

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Speaker 11: of all the little things. Because when you've got on

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Speaker 11: the field, you see these these four or five star receivers,

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Speaker 11: it's like it's like fireworks and and they're they're catching

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Speaker 11: everything and they're they're moving fast. So you know, even

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Speaker 11: the guy we just JJ, we just we had last year, like,

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Speaker 11: these guys are freaks of nature. So you got to

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Speaker 11: be on your everything and everything on your best and

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Speaker 11: just be ready to compete and to and to bring

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Speaker 11: your best foot.

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Speaker 5: When you think of Marvin putting on the muscle mass,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 11: I think I'm excited for him. I think he's gona

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Speaker 11: have a really great year.

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Speaker 5: Actually, when you came to high school, what was that like?

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Speaker 5: And it was interesting because you know, both your parents played.

484
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Speaker 5: Your mom was in track at Michigan. I remember Christian

485
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Speaker 5: McCaffrey saying he learned how to run from his mother,

486
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Speaker 5: who was a soccer star. I'll pivotle was mom in

487
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Speaker 5: your athletic career. You know, she was super important. And

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Speaker 5: I mean, my mom didn't teach me how to run,

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Speaker 5: but we would always race each other and I would

490
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Speaker 5: always you never want to lose, So that's good. I

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Speaker 5: guess you could say she told me to run fast,

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Speaker 5: but you know, she was. She was really important in

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Speaker 5: my my growing up. And you know.

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Speaker 11: Whether it was track or it was football, basketball, like

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Speaker 11: my parents are always there for me, and my mom especially

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Speaker 11: and then obviously my my my brother was the probably

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Speaker 11: the biggest impact in my athletic career where I was

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Speaker 11: always comparing myself to him and trying to be better

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Speaker 11: because he was, you know, an excellent player. So I'm yeah,

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Speaker 11: that's that's really what my growing up in my upbringing

501
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Speaker 11: was really.

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Speaker 5: Like Jersey City, right, So at any point you play

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Speaker 5: basketball for a member of the Hurley family, it's like

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Speaker 5: it's synonymous with Jersey City.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we we admire the passion. I never got to

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Speaker 11: play with any of the hurlies any before, any of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: but that was always one of those those things you

508
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Speaker 11: watch from afar and you can get to admire but

509
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Speaker 11: never actually do it.

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Speaker 5: So look, a lot of players come out of there

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Speaker 5: with an edge. Are you a trash talker?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 11: I mean, my job is I focus on the play

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Speaker 11: at hand, and I let my play doing the talking.

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Speaker 11: And then I don't I don't really want to get

516
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Speaker 11: involved with all the other stuff. But you know, you know,

517
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Speaker 11: when you make big plays, you know you let him

518
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Speaker 11: feel it. You know, emotion, They feel emotion. So you know,

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Speaker 11: I'm not a big, big trash talker, but you know,

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Speaker 11: I'm a really emotional player.

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Speaker 5: There's a stat where you're like one of a handful

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Speaker 5: of linebackers in the last ten years to have so

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Speaker 5: many tackles for losses quarterback sacks. What is it about

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Speaker 5: your game and your ability to get into the backfield?

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Speaker 5: Is that is that something you pride yourself on?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, one hundred percent, I mean, and that that also

527
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Speaker 11: goes into instincts, you know, finding a little nooks and

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Speaker 11: cranies to kind of find a way to get to

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Speaker 11: the quarterback or you know, even just affect the game.

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Speaker 11: And I think it also goes with coaching. I think

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Speaker 11: I had a great coaching when I was Ahio State,

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Speaker 11: and you know, just being able to affect the quarterback,

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Speaker 11: it affects the game so much more than you know

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Speaker 11: we thought in the past. And so now instead of

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Speaker 11: making the big hit, you're getting the sack fumble or

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Speaker 11: you're you're getting something else. So I think it's just

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Speaker 11: a combination of all that, you know, just you know

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Speaker 11: instincts and you know, coaching and learning the game better

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Speaker 11: and getting a better idea and being more comfortable of

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Speaker 11: the game.

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Speaker 5: How much of a chess match is it between a

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Speaker 5: middle linebacker and a quarterback?

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Speaker 11: So, I mean it is. It is a chess game.

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Speaker 11: And the more you can be out there together and

545
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Speaker 11: play against each other, I think that really helps. And

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Speaker 11: you can see each little change during the game and

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Speaker 11: you know, really get get get a feel for the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Because it's always interesting.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 5: Rave about Kyle Shanahan. You play him twice a year

551
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Speaker 5: with the nin er Sean McVeigh and the Rams, right,

552
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Speaker 5: they always have something. There's always some sort of wrinkle

553
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Speaker 5: and they make a defense think. So you know, four

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Speaker 5: time academic, All Big ten. So you know what we'll see,

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Speaker 5: We'll come on in. We look forward to it, we

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Speaker 5: really do.

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Speaker 11: I do as well. It's gonna be a good time,

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Speaker 11: good time this season.

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Speaker 5: Have you had a welcome to the NFL moment when

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Speaker 5: you're out there with Budda Baker. You're like, wow, that's

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Speaker 5: pretty cool as well, right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it shows you got a long way to go.

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Speaker 11: But I mean he's with the top of the game

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Speaker 11: right now.

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Speaker 5: Cody Simon. Everyone, We continue with a big red rage

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Speaker 5: presented by Santan forward in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: Sorry with times fires deep middle end zone for Harrison

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Speaker 4: and Harrison made the catch and got his feet down

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Speaker 4: for a touchdown. Harrison caught it in the twenty to tennis.

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Speaker 4: Harrison dies to the end zone. He's in touchdown up

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Speaker 4: by Harrison shows up, touchdown, Cardinal.

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Speaker 9: Are you not entertained, mate, left side of the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Harrison pulls it in touchdown Cardinals, Harrison and laying out

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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 2: He got it.

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Speaker 4: Touchdown. What a catch, Marvin Harrison Junior. Big time a

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Speaker 4: fade right corner of the end zone, Harrison, Paul, what

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Speaker 4: a catch for a touchdown back of the end zone,

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Speaker 4: Harrison sick Harrison, it's a touchdown. Fade right side of

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Speaker 4: the end zone. On the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown. Marvin Harrison Junior stabs the pig, pulls it down,

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Speaker 1: taps it off.

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Speaker 5: There you go a little highlighted montage Pash and Wolf

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Speaker 5: on the call, rookie Marvin Harrison Junior twenty twenty four

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Speaker 5: numbers eerily similar to his father's, by the way, Hall

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Speaker 5: of Famer Marvin Harrison Senior, and numbers actually rookie stats

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Speaker 5: that exceeded Larry Fitzgerald. So it is amazing for everything

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Speaker 5: that we think maybe he left out there at times

589
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Speaker 5: that the Cardinals offense could have maximized to a greater degree.

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Speaker 5: There is so much more potential there and the numbers

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Speaker 5: were there for rookie and everyone is looking forward to that.

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Speaker 5: And what is do you have in common with our

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Speaker 5: guest Cody Simon? They both went to Ohio State. You're

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Speaker 5: Cody here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan

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Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert just talking about practice man and all

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Speaker 5: just the top the top talent you get in Ohio

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Speaker 5: State practice. So it's no wonder that these Ohio State

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Speaker 5: guys are NFL ready. Wolf and Cody Simon definitely sounds

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Speaker 5: an acts mature, doesn't he.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Bully, this guy is

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Speaker 1: so sharp right now. He's challenging one of my core beliefs, Paully,

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Speaker 1: that you can't come into the National Football League other

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Speaker 1: than quarterback. You cannot come in as a rookie and

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Speaker 1: start at mike linebacker or full back. Paul, you can't

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Speaker 1: actually start at those two because it's right there, because Pauly,

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Speaker 1: you just don't understand what you don't know right now,

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Speaker 1: and you don't know an awful lot coming in as

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Speaker 1: Mike linebacker. The college game is nowhere close to being

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I liking it to checkers and

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Speaker 1: chess Paul, respectively. That's what it is is it's so

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Speaker 1: complex at the NFL level to have a rookie come

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Speaker 1: in and actually start and have a green dot on

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Speaker 1: his helmet. This guy is challenging my core belief that

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Speaker 1: that is not possible as a rookie. And I think

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Speaker 1: Cody Simon, we might see it his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all you have to do go to his Twitter

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Speaker 5: account and he pinned a highlight reel from Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Two things stand out his leadership. Everyone is following Cody Simon.

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Speaker 5: What's why he got the block Ole Ward, He's wearing

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Speaker 5: that jersey. It's why Ryan Day as head coach, called

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Speaker 5: him the heartbeat of the team. And then number two

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Speaker 5: just all the playmaking, how often he's in the backfield.

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Speaker 5: I mean I mentioned the stat the fact that he

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Speaker 5: had tackles for loss and sacks. Look no other inside linebacker.

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Speaker 5: He has those instincts and that ability to read an

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Speaker 5: offense and to seek and destroy as a linebacker. It's

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Speaker 5: going to be really intriguing. To your point, Wolf, can

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Speaker 5: he handle the playbook? Can he run a defense? I

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Speaker 5: think he's going to be given every single opportunity during

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Speaker 5: training camp. We'll see and you know what, we have

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Speaker 5: seen it in the last couple of years. Paris Johnson

632
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Speaker 5: Junior was a starting right tackle the moment he got

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Speaker 5: off the plane. Marvin Harrison Junior was wide receiver one

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Speaker 5: the moment he was taking number four overall. Now, the

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Speaker 5: question what's in store for Marvin in year two, especially

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Speaker 5: based on what he looks like if you got a

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Speaker 5: glance at him this week hashtag muscle mass and gains,

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Speaker 5: and he was asked about that is new found muscle

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Speaker 5: mass with the media.

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Speaker 2: That just happened.

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Speaker 12: Actually, honestly, I don't know. College I didn't eat as

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Speaker 12: much probably and then started eating a little bit more,

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Speaker 12: you know, having more free time, I guess by the internet. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: all the right things. Uh, some extra protein for sure.

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Speaker 1: How do you think your new shape will help him?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, always the football is

647
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Speaker 12: a physical game, a lot of contested situations as well

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Speaker 12: as he received contested catch situations, run off the catch

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Speaker 12: and things like that. So uh, I know, we'll see

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Speaker 12: how things play out throughout OTAs and training.

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Speaker 2: Can't see where that goes.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he went to see Yelda Froholt,

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Speaker 5: you know, for the protein. But whatever he did at

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Speaker 5: worked Wolf. I mean it was really noticeable, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Bully. He looks really really good.

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Speaker 1: And this is what a professional football player tries to

657
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Speaker 1: do every off season. Paul, get bigger, get stronger, get faster,

658
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Speaker 1: get in better shape. That is your responsibility in the

659
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Speaker 1: off season. That's what you're trying to do. And it

660
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Speaker 1: certainly looked like Marvin Harrison Junior went ahead and took

661
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Speaker 1: that to heart. Not really a surprise coming from the

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Speaker 1: family that he does, of course, but I think it

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Speaker 1: is going to be a surprise to see him get

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Speaker 1: off the press better because of his muscle mass and

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Speaker 1: his size.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is an honest question, how do you

667
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Speaker 5: get better at contested catches? You can't really practice it,

668
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Speaker 5: so I think the first thing you do is you

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Speaker 5: get stronger.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're more.

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Speaker 5: Physically capable, right, get off me, right, and you're able

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Speaker 5: that first five yards, especially because I think probably what

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Speaker 5: he found out, like most rookie receivers find out, these

674
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Speaker 5: are grown men playing games in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, that is a great observation right there. How

676
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Speaker 1: do you get better at contested catches? Don't have as

677
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Speaker 1: many of them? And you know how you don't have

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Speaker 1: as many of them. You go ahead and you use

679
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Speaker 1: your size and your physicality when you get pressed and

680
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: knock that dB around, knock that corner around, and run

681
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Speaker 1: better routes because you don't have somebody who's got his

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Speaker 1: hands all over you get off the press man. And

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Speaker 1: this is why I think Marvin Harrison Junior went ahead

684
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Speaker 1: and attacked his weight and his strength in this offseason

685
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Speaker 1: because he's trying to get off the press now again.

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Speaker 1: You know what I want to see the biggest improvement

687
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Speaker 1: I think from Marvin Harrison Junior, Polly, I want to

688
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Speaker 1: see him attack the ball when it's in the air.

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Speaker 1: This is something I've talked to you about in the past.

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Speaker 1: This is something we've had discussions about. When that ball

691
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Speaker 1: is up in the air, I want to see Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior attack that thing and say that ball is

693
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Speaker 1: mine and go up and try to elevate and use

694
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: those spears to stab the pig out of the air.

695
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Speaker 1: That's what I want to see from him going forward,

696
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 5: I asked Buddha Baker this week he met the media

698
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Speaker 5: as well, So did you notice that your receiver looks

699
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 5: like you can bench press his car? What do you

700
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Speaker 5: think about Marvin Harrison Junior's weight game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw him. I was like, how much you weighing?

702
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 6: He told me. I was like, man, he's still skinny,

703
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: you know. So, yeah, he's gained a lot of muscle.

704
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: I haven't really seen him run routes because we're kind

705
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: of on different sides of the field, but very excited

706
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 6: to start practicing again and seeing our auditions that we have.

707
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Speaker 6: But also Marve is continuing to get better. He's bigger

708
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Speaker 6: from what I seen on the sprints, he's more explosive.

709
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Speaker 6: So some people think that when you gain weight you

710
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 6: kind of get slower. I think for him, it's the opposite.

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Speaker 5: And to be clear, we don't know that he's actually

712
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Speaker 5: gained any weight.

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Speaker 1: LB's sure.

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Speaker 5: He didn't answer that question. Darius Robinson, who looks much

715
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Speaker 5: bigger as well swoll as the kids would say, told

716
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Speaker 5: Darren Urban that he's stronger, but he's still the same. Wait,

717
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 5: so we don't know exactly about that. Marvin Harrison Junior

718
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 5: did say he's going to test drive it during mini

719
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Speaker 5: camp training camp see how he likes it. Maybe maybe

720
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Speaker 5: takes off a few lbs if needed or wanted. Here's

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Speaker 5: the other area, Wolf where you know you talk. We

722
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Speaker 5: talked about contested catches, attacking the ball. Then there's also

723
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Speaker 5: mentally and here's what Marvin Harrison Junior had to say

724
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Speaker 5: about flipping the switch more often next year.

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Speaker 12: I'm very a humble guy to begin with, no matter

726
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 12: you know, what's happening on the field, I could just

727
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Speaker 12: be very humble. I feel like I definitely do have

728
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Speaker 12: a switch I can switch on more probably next year.

729
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Speaker 12: I think that just constantly being comfortable playing the game,

730
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Speaker 12: playing at the speed of the NFL and things like that.

731
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Speaker 12: So I think it just happened actually more or anything.

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Speaker 5: How do you translate that is he talking about mentality.

733
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Speaker 5: Is he talking about the intensity?

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, Paully' He's talking about flipping the switch. You

735
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: heard him say that right there. I'm a very humble

736
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Speaker 1: guy and I'm going out here and I'm competing on

737
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Speaker 1: the field. You know what, when that ball again, Paul,

738
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Speaker 1: just what I was talking about, when that ball is

739
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: in the air, half the mentality that says that ball

740
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: is mine and nobody else is going to catch the

741
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Speaker 1: ball around here. Listen, this is very similar what the

742
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Japanese fighting fish used to do. Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah, this

743
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: is what he did. He was open even when he

744
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: was covered, because he just had to throw him the

745
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: ball and he would go get it. He would stab

746
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Speaker 1: that thing out of the ear. This is what Marvin

747
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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior has got to do. He's got to take

748
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Speaker 1: that mentality and flip that switch. It's okay to be polite,

749
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Speaker 1: it's okay to be humble off the field. It's a

750
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Speaker 1: beautiful thing as a matter of fact, to do that.

751
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Speaker 1: But once you get inside those white lines, man, that

752
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: switch has got to be flipped, and that means mentally,

753
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Speaker 1: go get the ball.

754
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Speaker 5: You know what else is interesting There have been some

755
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Speaker 5: analytic breakdowns that he wasn't in motion a whole bunch

756
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Speaker 5: last year. Yeah, So okay, what does that mean as

757
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: a room for growth in that regard getting him on

758
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: the move? A little tougher for God to get their

759
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: hands on them once you snap the ball, right, I mean,

760
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: you gotta figure there might be a little different usage.

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Speaker 5: I know we mentioned at the end of last season

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Speaker 5: he had a couple of good games to finish the year,

763
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Speaker 5: and he said he was running some different routes at

764
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Speaker 5: different times in the last two games of the year.

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Speaker 5: I think that's all foreshadowing for this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Paulie. I think you're right on that quickly. And

767
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Speaker 1: I just want to say this too. I think they

768
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Speaker 1: were trying to simplify the game for Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. So bet they could create chemistry between them,

770
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Speaker 1: but now they need to take that next step going forward.

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Speaker 5: That's a great point, all right, Hey, get ready for

772
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five season, right, get the latest gear

773
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: from the Cardinals team shop. In fact, how about the

774
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Speaker 5: recently drop Marvin Harrison junior jersey That was a huge

775
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Speaker 5: hit out of the draft party out on the Gray Lawn.

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Speaker 5: slash shop. All right, the tushbush it's here to stay.

778
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Speaker 5: What does AQ Shipley have to say about that? On

779
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 5: Wolfe's reaction when we come back and the big red

780
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 5: rage presented by Santan forward in Gilbert, here.

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Comes a tousch push.

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Speaker 7: You gotta thank your stars, heart and he is powering

783
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 7: across for the touchdown.

784
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Speaker 1: If he knows what's coming down. Hurts. Canna get in

785
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: now We're gonna get the tousch pushing, Thank you, everybody,

786
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Speaker 1: come again.

787
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: It hurts trying to go over the time and get

788
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 5: him sneaks right under it.

789
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Speaker 1: We're first down, do it again?

790
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Speaker 2: Hurts.

791
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Speaker 10: Four Jaylor hurts.

792
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Speaker 7: And jailing hurts or no, they're going touch push and

793
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 7: they get it. It's not the jailing hurts push, it's

794
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 7: the touch madn't matter who's touched or pushing.

795
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Speaker 1: It should work.

796
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Speaker 4: Hurts shot a sneak kind of drives its way in touchdown.

797
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Speaker 5: As the Eagles tweeted out, social media just had a

798
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 5: field day with this over an Eagles HQ push on

799
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Speaker 5: after it was ratified, after it was safe preserved, and

800
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Speaker 5: all the headlines that have come out since it's including

801
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: one on ESPN where sources this is the headline now

802
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 5: Wolf Temper's flair as Eagles defend the tush push in

803
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 5: heated debate. So apparently there was a lot of drama

804
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: at the league meetings, the owners meetings this week and

805
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 5: the biggest headline once again, Yes, indeed, everybody now the

806
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: tushpush is here to stay.

807
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Speaker 1: Well, Paully, that means somebody told somebody else to sit

808
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: down and shut up or called them a ven old

809
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: pettifogger ball.

810
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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, It's funny you say that because

811
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Speaker 5: the details in the story there's not much. But apparently

812
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie gave a speech that lasted nearly

813
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: an hour. Yes, I heard that, and then Jason Kelsey

814
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: came in and tried to say, look, the data is real,

815
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Speaker 5: there's no increased risk of injury. And so they got

816
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 5: it through, they got it preserved. And I don't know

817
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Speaker 5: where you stand on this, Wolf, I'm trying to remember.

818
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: I know we've argued and talked about this. Look, I

819
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 5: mean I I'm not going to live or die in

820
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 5: this hill. I will say this. I think it's bad ball.

821
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's great football, just the look of

822
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: it and the rugby elements of it. You know, It's

823
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: sort of like in baseball, the commissioner steps in with

824
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 5: the best interest of the game. I mean, if Roger

825
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: Goodell stepped in and said, you know what, it's not

826
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: great football, nobody likes watching it, we're all sick of it.

827
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: Hence and heretofore it's gone. I wouldn't mind that. But

828
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Speaker 5: I also get that as a competitive advantage for the

829
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: team that has really perfected it, and that's the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, it just cannot stand it. It's not a

831
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Speaker 1: football play. To me, It's a rugby play, That's what

832
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: it is. It's not a football play.

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Speaker 10: You know what.

834
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of And I'm not talking about at

835
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: the point of attack, where the offense and defensive lineman

836
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: fire off the ball. That's very very physical down low.

837
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Speaker 1: But if you look at everyone else, it reminds me

838
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Speaker 1: of dudes at a pilates class just laying all over

839
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: some pilates ball pushing it. You know what, Paul, this

840
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: is this is not a football play. That is my

841
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: problem with the tush push right now. It is not

842
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: and it should be banned from the NFL in my.

843
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: Opinion, all right, what's the opinion of Aq Shipley. No

844
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 5: one is more qualified than an NFL center to comment

845
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: on the Tushbush right, and so here he was earlier

846
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: today on the Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 9: When you look at it, it is a skill like

848
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 9: Buffalo tried to do it and they get stuffed. Other

849
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 9: teams have tried to do it, they've gotten stuffed. I mean,

850
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Speaker 9: it's not nearly as successful with all the other teams

851
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 9: as it is with the Philadelphia Eagles. So it's clearly

852
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 9: a skill that the Philadelphia Eagles have mastered. So if

853
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 9: one team's better than the rest at it, then then

854
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 9: they're clearly doing something right. And it's clearly a skill set.

855
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 9: This isn't a play where it's an automatic first down

856
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 9: for everybody across the league. And if it was, I

857
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 9: could understand it. And they've found a way to make

858
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 9: it so good, and Jalen Hurts behind has made it

859
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 9: so good, so you can't punish them for being better

860
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Speaker 9: than everybody else at it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they have a quarterback who squats six hundred pounds,

862
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 5: so should we get it. He's especially equipped to run

863
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: the tushbush and that's what you do. You build your

864
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: team around your weapons, right, you cater and so now

865
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Speaker 5: it's not indefensible. They weren't one hundred percent at it.

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Speaker 5: In fact, you go two years ago off at the

867
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Speaker 5: end of the season when the Cardinals went into Filly

868
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: and beat the Eagles, there was a third and one

869
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: where the Cardinals stuffed the tush push. Yeah, and then

870
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 5: they try to get on fourth and one and they converted.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it can be done, but they have great

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Speaker 5: success with.

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Speaker 1: It, Paulie. This is my problem with it right now

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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles, and it should be for everybody

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Speaker 1: else because PAULI, right now, if you're gonna say it's legal,

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Speaker 1: why every team in the league is not gonna do

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Speaker 1: what the Philadelphia Eagles do, Why they're not going to

878
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Speaker 1: do the push tush, the tush push, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call it, Pally is beyond me. You have to

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Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of this because when you

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Speaker 1: can convert third and one and fourth and one, when

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Speaker 1: you can convert that ninety percent of the time, paul

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Speaker 1: if you have a third and two, you're just gonna

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Speaker 1: do the push to the toush push. You're just gonna

885
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Speaker 1: do that twice, Paul. Look, I'm all fired up. I

886
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Speaker 1: can't even say it. You're just gonna do that twice?

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Speaker 1: Right now? It's first and eight for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: It's not first and ten because if we get in

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Speaker 1: a third and two situation, we're gonna run two tush pushes.

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Speaker 5: And that's the other thing that's wrong with the whole

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Speaker 5: play is the moniker is the name, because just the

892
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Speaker 5: word tush does not belong in football. Chris, all right,

893
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Speaker 5: I'm still standing by mind, which hasn't got any traction.

894
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Speaker 5: I've always liked the nickname the butt hut.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like. No, Paul, not the butt Hut.

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Speaker 1: Don't ever say anything but Paul, don't never say that

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Speaker 1: brotherly shove. Okay, I like that one. That's a good

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Speaker 1: one right there. But you know what, Paul, Honestly, I

899
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Speaker 1: think there's a point where you can be so good

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Speaker 1: at that where even on a third and three in

901
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Speaker 1: a gotta have its situation, you might go ahead and

902
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Speaker 1: run the tush push twice to convert that first down twice,

903
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Speaker 1: knowing that it's hard to stop.

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Speaker 5: I tell you who has an advantage the Tampa Bay

905
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Speaker 5: Buccaneers with Vitavea, and then they sign that four hundred

906
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Speaker 5: and sixty four pound defensive lineman out of Florida, Desmond Watson. Yea,

907
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Speaker 5: So the Buccaneers tweeted out, we got two dudes we're

908
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 5: gonna put right over the nose, try and come through

909
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: these guys. Here's the other thing, well, hit zoom out

910
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Speaker 5: on the Eagles. I think they're tracking. They're tracking to

911
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: really be the biggest villain in the NFL that we've

912
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Speaker 5: seen in a while. I mean, we've all come to

913
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Speaker 5: dislike over the years of the Cowboys and the Chiefs

914
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Speaker 5: and especially the Seahawks, but Philly's getting real close to

915
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 5: becoming enemy number one in everybody's power pole at this rate,

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Speaker 5: especially Sakuon Barkley coming out this week and saying the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four Eagles are quote a top five team

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Speaker 5: in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I miss that ball. I am sorry about.

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00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: God, They're starting to smell themselves right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the one thing I would say about that.

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Speaker 1: You're right, PAULI Philadelphia first of all, and you know

923
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Speaker 1: how I feel about Philadelphia fans as well. Just the

924
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: worst fan base in the history of the NFL. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave it at that right there. Yet, Yet, at the

926
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Speaker 1: same time, how can you really dislike the Eagles when

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Speaker 1: he got Jalen Hurts as your quarterback. This guy is,

928
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Speaker 1: It's true, what a great guy. He is, squared away

929
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Speaker 1: and a great competitor. I love what he did last

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Speaker 1: year and I'm happy for him. But having said that,

931
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Speaker 1: I would like to see the Eagles lose every game

932
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Speaker 1: they play.

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Speaker 5: He is single handedly saving their Q rating. You're you're

934
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Speaker 5: absolutely all right now. Things we do like and I

935
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Speaker 5: think we do agree on this. One would be the

936
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Speaker 5: NFL initiative to go ahead and green light flag football.

937
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Speaker 5: NFL players can participate in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.

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Speaker 1: This is the greatest thing, Balie. It really is, not

939
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Speaker 1: only because football players get to play and compete for

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Speaker 1: Olympic gold, but also because you know what, we're going

941
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Speaker 1: to be better than everyone else in this in the

942
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Speaker 1: United States is going to win another gold medal. That's

943
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Speaker 1: all I care about, and I know you love that

944
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Speaker 1: as well, Balie. And not only that, can I say

945
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Speaker 1: that it's really gonna help the flag football initiative in

946
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Speaker 1: regard to girls' high school athletics ball. Yep, it's really

947
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Speaker 1: these flag football teams that are coming up all through

948
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Speaker 1: the country, all through high school right now, These these

949
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Speaker 1: women's flag football teams. This is fantastic for women's athletics

950
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Speaker 1: right now and it gives them something. There are scholarships

951
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Speaker 1: being handed out for flag football and that's why I

952
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Speaker 1: love it. The NFL is supporting it, and by the way,

953
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Speaker 1: does that increase the fan base in the future for them?

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Speaker 1: And they've got a bunch of girls who played flag

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Speaker 1: football in high school, you better believe it.

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Speaker 5: And nobody in the NFL is supporting girls flag football

957
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Speaker 5: more than the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, we are both part

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Speaker 5: of telecast. A year ago, Cardinals broadcast the whole season

959
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 5: is coming again this year. Everyone's looking forward to that.

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Speaker 5: There are two initiatives right now in the NFL big picture.

961
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Speaker 5: One is international and two is flag football. And really

962
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Speaker 5: flag football ties into international because this is how you

963
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: grow the game globally. This is how so many great points,

964
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Speaker 5: so many athletes around the world can participate and learn

965
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Speaker 5: the game. Is it the football that you played for

966
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Speaker 5: ten years and went to four Pro Bowls? No, but

967
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Speaker 5: guess what softball isn't exactly baseball. Yeah, and the popularity

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Speaker 5: softball is off the hook right now, and he keeps growing,

969
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Speaker 5: just like girls. Flag football keeps growing. And I think

970
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Speaker 5: that's what the NFL is seeing, and they're going to

971
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Speaker 5: keep feeding this thing because it has so much potential.

972
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Speaker 5: I mean, ten years from now, twenty years from now,

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Speaker 5: what it's going to look like.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Paul, I could play ten years in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League because of the physicality. But I

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Speaker 1: would not have made the flag football team for the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: no way.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

979
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Speaker 1: Even I would never have been considered.

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Speaker 5: How about Kyler Murray as a flag football quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Okay, the only thing better than Kyler Murray would be

982
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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels because he's just as mobile.

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