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Speaker 1: I've also seen this loan So like you know, by

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Speaker 1: But there's multiple people in this hip hop and media

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Speaker 4: Bro, this game need people like you, because there's not

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Speaker 2: I'm in an industry that doesn't.

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Speaker 3: That's big. You know, Joe.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to see you. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: You gotta worry about your artists being seen a lot.

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Speaker 3: Because they will come. That will be something with taxes.

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Speaker 4: There will be something in every Moguls scenario that's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just super polarizing, super polarizing.

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Speaker 2: He's uh.

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Speaker 1: He says stuff that I totally agree with, and said

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Speaker 3: But do you think that he's.

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Speaker 4: Tailoring the message in the way that you would be,

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Speaker 1: But well, Charleston White has told y'all that he is

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Speaker 3: The rapper talk.

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Speaker 4: I just got cool with a lot of rappers and understood, Oh, shit,

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Speaker 3: I literally me and Charleston White would run side by side.

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Speaker 4: You know, he would go live and I would do podcasts,

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's what he's doing or do you

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I think that you need a Charleston White in the culture,

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Speaker 2: That's deep.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not he even believes what he's saying, He's

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Speaker 4: Because he talks about spirit or that with you being

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 1: I met Charleston once in person backstage at a eighty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then my guys. Ye, shout out to them, big,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you can't say around you.

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Speaker 3: Ain't from New Orleans, man, Please, I'm plugged down.

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Speaker 1: I said, brother, we say a lot of the same things.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, he pushing an envelope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro.

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Speaker 1: And you know, man, once it starts getting into like

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Speaker 2: Your comedy show. You getting slippery your Mason soldier boy,

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Speaker 1: And then the response is to laugh about the stuff

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Speaker 2: Now you're turning into.

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Speaker 3: Are you jealous of Charles D. White?

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Speaker 4: And I mean that, I mean that he could say

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Speaker 2: For the not at all, brother, not at all.

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Speaker 1: That was a I appreciate you for asking that question,

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Speaker 2: I'm jealous of.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm authentically me, and I know that I'm walking

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Speaker 4: you and saying, hey, I'm in gospel doing it, why

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Speaker 4: we should be over here doing it. We should build

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Speaker 4: of there, And he's critical of you. How would you

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Speaker 1: I would have to have an open ear to understand

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that this got pointed out because I had

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Speaker 2: We all got blind spoted. Now for sure, you feel me.

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Speaker 1: We all got blind spots. So it doesn't even have

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Speaker 2: You know? And I could ignore it.

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Speaker 1: I could ignore it if I'm like, that's just a hater,

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Speaker 1: that's just a clown, that's a troll, that's a person

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Speaker 4: And you can tell because they'll put along the people

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Speaker 4: shit like the Long Joint of Man. Back in twenty

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Speaker 4: and such, I was right there and I said, man,

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh he been on the ride with me.

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Speaker 3: He a little different. He tapped in is he is

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Speaker 3: he in on this?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Does he know? Or am I tripping? Like you? You?

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Speaker 3: You do have to you have to weigh that up.

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Speaker 2: Here's the goal.

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Speaker 4: Give me some wide ones like back way back, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, where you see.

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Speaker 3: The equipment and shit, my bad bro produced me a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the go huh okay, okay, okay, all right you.

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Speaker 1: Here's my personal goal as my PLAM grows, I want

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Speaker 2: You could get bolder or you could get blind. You

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Speaker 2: But I want to get bolder, not blinder, not more lukewarm.

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Speaker 1: I want to have more of that light shining, more

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Speaker 1: that salt to where you could taste my flavor. You're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's a fine line to walk to make sure that

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Speaker 2: To reel off some spicy takes for some clicks.

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Speaker 1: Fine line to walk, that's a mean, that's a mean

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Speaker 2: And thankfully I was popular before I ever picked.

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Speaker 1: The microphone up. I was the homecoming king. I was

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Speaker 1: Now hot, they all on it. That ain't my story,

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Speaker 1: you feel me?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Usually the trauma from that stuff has brothers

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Speaker 1: Yes, And because you got that chip on your shoulder,

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Speaker 1: I remember juvenile song on g Cool backing like that

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to that and I'm like, man.

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Speaker 3: I want some I want something back. Ah, you you

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Speaker 3: moving with it? Okay? My bad? My bad, My bad.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: So I remember listening to that and being like, dang,

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Speaker 1: this is what it's like when you got a chip

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Speaker 2: They gonna feel that chip.

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Speaker 1: I have a song on my new album, from the

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Speaker 2: But it's that ship that's fueling you. You feel me.

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Speaker 2: But if you don't manage that chip on your shoulder properly.

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Speaker 1: It'll had you bitter, It had you resentful, it had

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Speaker 2: You feel me and that I'm giving game on my

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Speaker 1: Bro from the hoods of New Orleans to Harvard University,

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Speaker 2: I first.

442
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: Got there, Manavi har Yeah, Man, what is litt David

443
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: off Dwyer Road in New Orlean diseast doing at Harvard?

444
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm smart enough to.

445
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: Keep up with these people.

446
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: Maybe, like I felt a little out of place for

447
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 1: like the first few days in posta Syndrome, managing your chip.

448
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: I see so many black people that's up there at Harvard,

449
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: that they are there, but they are mad because They're.

450
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 2: Like, man, slaves built this school.

451
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: Man, I can't believe this. Harvard got a legacy of slavery.

452
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me tell you what I do. Man,

453
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: I own real estate on Harvard's campus. Now I do.

454
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 1: I own a piece of real estate on Harvard's campus. Now, So, yeah,

455
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: slayers built this school, but I own real estate on campus.

456
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: Tell me my full fathers and ancestors wouldn't be proud

457
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: of that.

458
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: You heard me.

459
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 1: So I made songs about all these emotions on the

460
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: album Bro.

461
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: I got a song called What's that Oh? This came

462
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: from rapping. Brother.

463
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: I had my keys to my office at Harvard, and

464
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: when I first walked downstairs the first day after I

465
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: moved into the office space that I got, I'm looking

466
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: around on campus and I'm like, brou all of this

467
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: came from me rapping. Like from me rapping, this came

468
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: from that. So I look at real estate, I look

469
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: at my portfolio, my investments, I look at being at Harvard,

470
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: being at toughs University.

471
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, this came from rapping. The same

472
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: dude there was at LSU.

473
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: You heard me, who was trying to walk on the

474
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: basketball team got cut football players, slept with my old lady,

475
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: took my girl from embarrassed me. I'm made a fool

476
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: lot of me. And in front the whole campus all

477
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: this stuff. The same dude who best friend got murdered,

478
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: who had and them dudes had the gun to my

479
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: head man, but who just wanted to rap? The same

480
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: dude that was Fredile Bang middle school teacher, Joe Scott,

481
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: g Money TC, all these brothers, and who stopped doing

482
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: that so that I could get into this industry. I'm like, man,

483
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: all this came from rapping, So I made a song

484
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: about that, and like my music, that stuff hit different

485
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: bro flections. Yeah, from a real place. Like I say,

486
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't care if you know me. You're about to

487
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: respect high step. Why would you think I'd ever fear you.

488
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't even fear debt. A scare boy need a

489
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: gun like bad breath need a gun. Yeah, your teeth clean,

490
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: But I know the power of the tongue. I'm a

491
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: man of God, and I ain't superstitious. From New Orleans,

492
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: where Birdman quotes get treated like Bible scriptures. But me,

493
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: I ain't the type to brag about without in bulk.

494
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 1: I make silent moves, but I get loud results. If

495
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: D One talk about his pain, you gonna really relate.

496
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: D want to talk about his paper, You're gonna know

497
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: that he straight. You gonna ask about D One, They gonna.

498
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: Tell you he great. D wanna wrap on top of

499
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: your beat. You gonna know that he ate you.

500
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Bragging a bout with you? Then been through Potner. We

501
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: survivors too, And you call them boys your brothers. But

502
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: which one's gonna ride for you? I ain't no g

503
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: cole no more but the streets that lie to you.

504
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: That's why I be in my bag, but I be

505
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: in my Bible too. They don't like me, but they

506
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: know they can't deny me. Now I'm a real gangster,

507
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: and you know right where to find me. G A

508
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: N G S t A. Do not try me, growing

509
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: and nurturing gifts, serving the Almighty. Keep up a lot

510
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: of people feel how I be feeling, but don't speak up.

511
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: I be out at Harvard in my office with my

512
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: feet up. God, Why you so good to me? I

513
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: need answers.

514
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 3: Slaves built this school.

515
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: Now I on really State on Campus's hard. That's how

516
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm coming.

517
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: That's hard. That's hard and you know it's hard, man,

518
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: Thank you brother.

519
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: That means a lot coming from you, because I know

520
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: who watching this, and I know that when you say that,

521
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: they like say that, right, it must be hard because

522
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: they don't know it's hard. But sometimes they'll be like,

523
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know because it's different. Yes, it ain't money

524
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: bag your hole, right, you feel me?

525
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: It ain't this one. It ain't young ball Hall, it ain't.

526
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: It ain't a baby.

527
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 4: Right right, but it's one of them one. Yeah, yeah,

528
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. And what I was going to ask

529
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: you was the just I just had. I just had

530
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: some man. I try, I'll be trying to when it

531
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: come in my head. I try to write that, just

532
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: a line of it down to I could go back

533
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: to it, but I didn't get to fucking write it down.

534
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: Man.

535
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help you refreshment.

536
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: We're talking about Charles Aston.

537
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Was I jealous of Charleston and.

538
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: His way, of his way, his freedom that he has

539
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 4: right and still kind of getting that right, and me talking.

540
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: About I want my message to be boulder and not

541
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: bland right as I as my platform grows.

542
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about this.

543
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 4: What do you think about the podcast market?

544
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Like just media, hip hop media.

545
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the podcast market is beautiful because man,

546
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: you can get on your phone on your computer and

547
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: just start talking into the camera nowadays and a mass

548
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: of following without any production value. Were in a beautiful

549
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: facility right now. My brother got lights, y'all. I don't

550
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: know if y'all know that or not.

551
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: We got four cameras, we.

552
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: Got three computers that I see over there.

553
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: You heard, man, we got we got all this.

554
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: Like, but there's people who don't have that to start out,

555
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: but they can still start building the audience because of

556
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: their authenticity. So the podcast space is beautiful and I

557
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: plan on starting the podcast immediately.

558
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: And I just came up with the title.

559
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it Flipping tables with d one nice

560
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: because Jesus got mad when he walked into the temple

561
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: and he saw may y'all gambling, y'all sitting here talking

562
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: crazy in my father's temple.

563
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: In the church, Jesus went to flipping tables.

564
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: Jesus the man, it's all about peace and love and harmony,

565
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: flipping real tables in the temple. So anybody who know,

566
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: it's like if you know, you know, like when you're

567
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: talking about flipping tables. It's like saying, look, don't push me,

568
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: but I come in peace. Yes, but don't push me. Keyword,

569
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: don't push it because I'm not afraid to talk that

570
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: toll man. And I feel like that's what I'm striving

571
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: to be.

572
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're gonna have to and you're gonna have

574
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: to defend some of that stuff too, right, but you've

575
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: been doing a.

576
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: Great job at it.

577
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: You don't shot, you don't shot away from those conversations,

578
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: and whatever platform you go to, you're like, yo, whatever

579
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: y'all bring, I'm defending.

580
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: Like this is how I truly feel.

581
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 4: And I think that's refreshing even for the people you

582
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: speak about when they hear you actually defend what you're saying.

583
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: And no, this is my thinking behind that, bro, Like

584
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: not just me shooting at you dudes, Like, no, this

585
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: is my thinking, like cause some people won't dig, like

586
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 4: the only introduction is like, oh they said.

587
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: That about me.

588
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: Don't never bring it dudes around ever. You know what

589
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And unfortunately this game moves so fast. Somebody

590
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: like Rick Ross with a private jet and all that,

591
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: it's like, what is really getting to his phone that

592
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: he's really knowing about, Like you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

593
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: he know you, he know your face, he know you

594
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: do something in the game, But does he really know

595
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: how witty and savvy and right.

596
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: It's just it takes an introduction for that.

597
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: And I think that the more you do these kind

598
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 4: of things which you do, I think they'll, especially with

599
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: the right people, they'll be able to tune in and say, Okay,

600
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: let's kind of see what you see where he went

601
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: with that one. And that's what I that's what I

602
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 4: take from it. I don't know if would you ever

603
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: do drink?

604
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: Chumps?

605
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, dj E f N didn't already talk to

606
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: me about Like yo, man, we would love to figure out.

607
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: We got to figure out.

608
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 3: You don't drink though, do drugs?

609
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't drink. I've never drink in my life, smoked,

610
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: never smoked in my life. Yeah. See that right there,

611
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna make some people be like, I see see

612
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: he ain't.

613
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Real or he can't relate to me like it's just different.

614
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't really all it. Stop man,

615
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: stop bro.

616
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm still a human being. Bro.

617
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: My heart is still beating just like yours. Yes, I

618
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: hear it. I feel it right now. Come on, man,

619
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: come on, man, don't do me that. Culture, don't don't

620
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: don't don't try to do me that. And I'm saying

621
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: this because I know that these be the barriers. Yes,

622
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: it ain't that I ain't lost loved ones just like you.

623
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: It ain't that I ain't lose my my, my baby,

624
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: my grandma, which you know it really messed me up.

625
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: It ain't that I grew up without a lot.

626
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: In the hood, in the trenches, you feel me, It ain't.

627
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: It ain't none of that. It'll be they looking for

628
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: a technicality. Oh, he ain't never drink or smoke here,

629
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: come on, man, But they had it all around me though,

630
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: definitely had Do you think black people are monolitht Absolutely not,

631
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: And we need to stop viewing ourselves as such.

632
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: If a black person don't like rap music, don't judge them.

633
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm about to sit here and name you. I'm I'm

634
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: just putting it all out this.

635
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: This is a comfortable space. Yeah.

636
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: So we ain't grow up watching many movies in my house? Right?

637
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: If we talking music, oh, I didn't heard it at all,

638
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: But movies.

639
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: I just didn't watch a lot of movies growing up,

640
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: and then that behavior carried on into adulthood. I just

641
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: don't be watching a bunch of movies. If it's a

642
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: dope documentary, sign me up, you right, movie biographies, I

643
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: love that stuff.

644
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: Movies bro.

645
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: A lot of the movies that's like staples in black culture,

646
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them, not because I can't relate to

647
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: it or don't want to. I ain't seen Boys in

648
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the Hood. I ain't seen Minister Society. I ain't seen

649
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: name another one.

650
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: I have seen Juice, Boys in the Hood, Minister Society.

651
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: You've seen Fridays, all the Fridays.

652
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: I only seen the first one.

653
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: You ain't seen all the Fridays.

654
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: I only seen the first one.

655
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, what's some more some black movies? This like

656
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Friday Juice?

657
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: He's seen that, Boys in the Hood, Poetic Justice, that

658
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: was a that's a love thing.

659
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: Though you ain't see Poetic Justice. Pet that's our raw man.

660
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: What else?

661
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Gangster movies come from an era like boys And because

662
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: that was the year of the Gangster, it was a lot.

663
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Of huh, South Central? Did you see South Central?

664
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: And Minister in South No?

665
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: The regular, wasn't it a regular in South Central?

666
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: A movie cost South No, I don't think they had

667
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: a movie cost.

668
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah it was, wasn't it the little buddy got killed?

669
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. Yeah. Let me go over that Central

670
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: to moving.

671
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, South Central?

672
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: I know all right, that was one of them ones too,

673
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: so and I say that the same we could probably

674
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: now twenty four scene.

675
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: But it's that type of stuff that will make some

676
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: people be like, oh.

677
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he not real, he not all the way black,

678
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: or his black color revoked.

679
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: Man, we just gotta stop with all that, bro, We

680
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: gotta stop with all that.

681
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't say your black card is revert revoked,

682
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: but I will say that there is their space in

683
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: between understandings. If like, just be I had this problem

684
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: with people in the media, just being black don't make

685
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: you understand culture, you know what I'm saying, Like, because

686
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: you could be black and be from Jamaica and don't

687
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: know nothing about American culture, you know what I'm saying. So,

688
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: like the black thing confuses us sometimes. But if you've

689
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: never seen none of those movies.

690
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: But I saw them in real life every day, oh okay,

691
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: that makes sense you feel but yeah, yeah yeah, And

692
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: it was no actors, right, wasn't no actors in right,

693
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: nobody want Academy Awards, right, and the night was because

694
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: people will try to use that and say, well, man,

695
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: he can't relate to me. He don't even he don't

696
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: know nothing about Yeah, you know, but you're saying, now

697
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: this is real life.

698
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't watch the movie.

699
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

700
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to all my acting fresh out to my

701
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: brother Jason Mitchell, my man af On Crockett. Uh, so

702
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: many dope actors. I even started in the movie. It's

703
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: called My All Dogs I started. It's on Prime and

704
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

705
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's dope. Yeah, so you auditioned off only for that.

706
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: No, man, I paid for the movie. It is an

707
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: independent movie.

708
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

709
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: We put together me, my brother Murrys Real Dope Rap

710
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: out of LA and my brother Tabby Bounet, real dope

711
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: rapper and businessman out of Washington, d C. We came

712
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: together and we put our bread together. We was like,

713
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: we want to We grew up looking at ice Cube

714
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: and master p and watching them make movies balla Block

715
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: and I've seen Balla Blocking you heard me, Yeah yeah,

716
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: but uh, we was like, man, we want us to

717
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: have a movie be like hip hop artists who can

718
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: control our narrative and and and make a movie. So

719
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: we put our bread together and made this film. And

720
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was wondering. I mean, if you

721
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: look at the cover like I'm I'm like writing, I'm

722
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: like one of.

723
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: The specially the funded yourself.

724
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: You really was out here trying to get it in

725
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: this ship though, absolutely, And I respect that because you

726
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: see me, that's what I've done. So I got a

727
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: high level of respect for that, bro, because people won't,

728
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: especially for you. But what I do find interest is

729
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: that you don't have no competition in your lane.

730
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: And that could be.

731
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: Rare and it cannot last for long, right because at

732
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: some point, That's why I ask you that question of

733
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: like if someone came in that lane, because I see,

734
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: at some point, the more effective you become, someone comes

735
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: in that lane, and maybe they not even as pure

736
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: as you.

737
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: That's not a threat. That's a teammate.

738
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: It looks like a teammate to that critical view. Now

739
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: now it says the same way you've been and that

740
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: and they can use what you've been doing against you

741
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: and say, well, I'm critical of you the same way

742
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: you have been of this entire game, right, So now

743
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm coming in more Christian than you. I don't mess

744
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: with rap. I'm doing gospel rap, but I'm now I'm

745
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, can get it, can get

746
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: weird in that in that space that you're in.

747
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Hopefully they come in as a teammate.

748
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it really shows me the the gap

749
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: that exists Loon as you're talking, because you're talking from

750
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: a very genuine place and I love it and respect it,

751
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dang loun has no idea that there's

752
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: a whole industry of whether you wanna call it Christian

753
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: rappers or just faith based rappers who are unapologetic about

754
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: their love for God, but who are like really out

755
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: here killing it and making real moves and making real

756
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: impact and making real money.

757
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to be put on to some

758
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: of them because I don't know, I don't have no idea,

759
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: and I think I'm more so not that the genre

760
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: doesn't exist, but I think I'm also speaking to taking

761
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: your approach, not being in your genre.

762
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so that part now, to taking the approach part.

763
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: You do have people who may have the same heart

764
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: or the same message, but they say My approach to

765
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: how I'm doing god work is different than how.

766
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: You doing it now.

767
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: You feel me, bro When my first album is called

768
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: David and Goliath, which is a story out the Bible.

769
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: But when I got Kevin Gates on the album, and

770
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: I got my man Dizzy from New Orleans on the album,

771
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and I just think about what I was doing at

772
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: that time, promoting that thing in the streets of Baton

773
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: Rouge and New Orleans. I've always been this person that's

774
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: existed at the falk in the road between. Yes, a

775
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: church wants to book me to come perform on Sunday

776
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: and they want to hear my song one Man on

777
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Me and my son Queen's talking about women, and this

778
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: other song, the Garden of Eden, that I got meanwhile,

779
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: I Hate Money, It's on this same album and it's

780
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: featuring Kevin Gates, and I'm in these same clubs this

781
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: doing open mic night and everything, and I'm performing songs

782
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: here as well. I've always been that person that was

783
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: kind of like living in both of those spaces authentically,

784
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: so that ain't everybody's calling, and some people, some people

785
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be their calling because they feel like, man,

786
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: this where the cool kids are.

787
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: Yes, you're from from the Christian thing, from the righteous you.

788
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: You are like the rapper of the Christian people.

789
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

790
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: Like you're the one that that it's okay to wear chain,

791
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: it's okay to stand next to Gates, to call out

792
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: me and speak with Jim those guys. This is a

793
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: very unique thing. It does never bleed over. There's no

794
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: like you said, there's no bridging of those gaps. It

795
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 4: does never bleed over. If you do Christian rep they

796
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: don't book you at clubs. If you do this rap,

797
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: they don't book you at churches. And you've been able

798
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: to kind.

799
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Of dance and I'm I'm not that crafty to where

800
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: this is all calculated.

801
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: That's what I want people to know.

802
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: That's the power of the God I serve is I

803
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: could have never set back and been like, so the

804
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: strategy is gonna be make this type of song with

805
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: this artist, but then this type of song, and then

806
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have.

807
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: These people on you and these people.

808
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Want you and da da man. I couldn't have couldn't

809
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: have scripted this path. So that's how I know it's authentic,

810
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't overthink it. But I also

811
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: don't doubt what God can do in terms of like, Man,

812
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what's next for me.

813
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: You couldn't have told me two years ago.

814
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I would be a college professor and be able to

815
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: design my own course but at the same time putting

816
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: music out and being a keynote speaker at conferences and

817
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: all that. Man, I'm just going with the flow, brocause

818
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how long I have here. And because

819
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how long I have here, that's my

820
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: chip is. I know I got a purpose. I know

821
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: what my tool is. So the book it's called David

822
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: Found His Sling Shot.

823
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: You familiar with the story David and Goliad. Yes, David

824
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: defeated Goliath with a sling shot.

825
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Goliad was this massive, nine foot tall giant who everybody

826
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: was afraid of, right, everybody was intimidated by Goliath.

827
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: David, young dude, you heard me, A young teenager was.

828
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Running the errand for his daddy and was like, Man,

829
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: what's y'all afraid of battling this dude?

830
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: For like? For what?

831
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: It was like, Man, Goliad gonna kill whoever stepped down

832
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: there to him? Straight up he gonna kill him, like

833
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: we all intimidated. David was like, I'll go and fight Goliad.

834
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: Why because I know God got my back number one,

835
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: but number two, I don't need your sword, loon, I

836
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: don't need your shield.

837
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: I don't need none of y'all weapons. I know my

838
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: own special.

839
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: Gift, which is this sling shot. I'm a beast with

840
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: this sling shot. Now they thinking he crazy. They always

841
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: think you crazy. Then they want to be like, didn't

842
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: they copy you? So they thought he was crazy at

843
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: first until he took that sling shot out went down

844
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: there the battle Goliad and with one rock was able

845
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: to toss that mug and bow, sting Goliath in the forehead.

846
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Goliath falls, David takes Goliath's sword and slit his head

847
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: off with his own sword.

848
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: You heard me.

849
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: When that happens, bro, everybody is amazed. David becomes the king. Right,

850
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: eventually David becomes the king. This book is all about

851
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: us all finding our sling shot. My sling shot is

852
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: hip hop and education. I know that's my two sling shots.

853
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Them gifts, people might not understand them.

854
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: They might not underst like why I'm so good at

855
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: what I do on Why I'm able to do what

856
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: I do in the way that other people can't, that's

857
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: because it's my sling shot and it's not your. They

858
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: might not understand how with no coat sign you have

859
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: built this, Yes, and how here on a breakfast club,

860
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: how are you doing this all of a sudden. That's

861
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: because this is your sling shot, right, and it's probably.

862
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: Just one of them, yeah, for sure.

863
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: And the key is to finding your sling shot in life,

864
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: because when you find your sling shot and you use

865
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: it for the purpose God designed it for, you can

866
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: defeat the golias in your life.

867
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: Facts.

868
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: And I want to also tell the youngsters following us that, like,

869
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: just know that whatever happens right you go through things,

870
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: life feels like it tears you down, but God and

871
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: the universe creates balance.

872
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: It will be balanced right for the for the for.

873
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: Every night that it rains, that will be sunshine. You

874
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 4: have to just weather the storm and don't give up,

875
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 4: because a lot of us give up and go back

876
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: to what was working, you know. And so I want

877
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: the people the follow us, and also I want you

878
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: to be able to breathe life into the young man

879
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: that's following you. Because there's young men following your path.

880
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Right.

881
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: It's some rap guy now that's a fourteen year old.

882
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, d one. I don't smoke either, bro,

883
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: but I like young boy. I like baby, you know

884
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But my mom won't let me listen

885
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: to that stuff all day, or she don't let me

886
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: watch the documentary on YouTube like she's on me. But

887
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: I like rap bro, like you know, and so you

888
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: have to remain powerful for him.

889
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: Same with me.

890
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: I gotta remain powerful because I tell the youngsters that

891
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 4: if anybody out there is in content world and they're

892
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: looking for a business model, I have to be the

893
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: business model. The reason I say that is because I

894
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: didn't drag an audience from anywhere. So there's more people

895
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: in America in the world like me than there is

896
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: rappers that's coming from somewhere to start a podcast.

897
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: Right. So I'm I'm I'm.

898
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: The person that says you can come off the street,

899
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: quit your job or whatever it is you've done, and

900
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: build this thing. You can't follow Joe Budden because he

901
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: was rapping twenty years before he's done it. You can't

902
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: follow Cameron because you know what I'm saying, So that's

903
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: that's the thought process, like you gotta be strong for

904
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: the ones behind you.

905
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: That's real, bro, And that's a great reminder, like thank you,

906
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: because it's not always easy.

907
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: I know I'm up here smiling and I'm and I'm shining.

908
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: I got the new album out, I got and I

909
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: want to tell you y'all get the book from Mission Vision,

910
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: like we also put Yeah, I know I'm up here

911
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, dang that boy d on his victory

912
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: lap right now.

913
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Man, there's nice. Whey, I'm crying. There's nice. Where I'm confused.

914
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I have a real, real physical condition to where I'm

915
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: often dealing with, like real intense chest pain. And it's

916
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: called akelasia. Yeah, if anybody google that, you're gonna see how.

917
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: What does that mean? What does that do? Yeah?

918
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: Eclesia is something I've been having since high school. To wear.

919
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: My esophagus, which is where you're taking your food and

920
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: you're taking your liquids. You're supposed to be able to

921
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: digest that stuff into your stomach. My esophagus the cells

922
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: have corroded and are like real like dead near.

923
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: The end of it.

924
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: So instead of the food going straight down oftentimes it

925
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: gets stuck, you know, and when it gets stuck like

926
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: right here, it's either this real, real, real intense chest

927
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: pain or if it gets stuck, it comes back up.

928
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: So literally, it could be food. It could be stuff

929
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: that I'm drinking. I stay away from certain foods. But

930
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: ever since high school when I was playing basketball and hooping, man,

931
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm throwing up like half the time when I'm eating.

932
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: So I had a massive surgery my senior year after

933
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: basketball season. I got like five slips going across my

934
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: stomach where they cut me open and they tied a

935
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: part of my stomach around my esophagus at an angle

936
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: to where it's like manually like holding it open, you

937
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, to give it some space. So

938
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: they were telling me, they were like, there's no cure

939
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: for this, but treatment, yeah, this is the best treatment.

940
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Stay away from these type of foods. Oh, they say

941
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: alcohol is one of the things. If you don't drink alcohol, yo,

942
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: stay away. So I had never started drinking, so at

943
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: that point it was like, I'm definitely not.

944
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: Drink It's over with, right, even cold drinks.

945
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: When you say you was gonna get a sprite, right,

946
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to have carbonated drinks. You give me

947
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: a gatory, you know what I mean? So, like I

948
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: deal with that stuff bro randomly. Like I'm saying all

949
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: this just because I don't want people to think that

950
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: it's easy. But just because it's not easy don't mean

951
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: it's not essential. It's essential that you keep going when

952
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: you know that you are being used as a vessel

953
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: to inspire others. It's essential when you see that God

954
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: is really ordering your steps in a way that gatekeepers

955
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: can't open, in a way that nobody can open or

956
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: close these doors for you. That's Man made you feel me.

957
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: You gotta keep going because it's like, man, my life

958
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be temporary. I won't always be. But that

959
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: energy I put out into this world and for me,

960
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: since I'm a rapper, that music I put onto these

961
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: beats and onto these platforms, that's gonna live forever. So

962
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I gotta be careful and intentional about what I'm putting

963
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: out there. So people not gonna remember what you said,

964
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: but they gonna remember how you made them feel.

965
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: You better believe that.

966
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't remember nothing my fourth grade teacher taught me,

967
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: but I remember how she made me feel when she

968
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: told me I wasn't smart enough to be the president

969
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: of the United States, because that's what I used to

970
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: want to be. I used to want to be the

971
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: president till I said it in front of the class

972
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: and she loud caabbed me and clown me in front

973
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: of everybody.

974
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: And I remember how she made me feel.

975
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: And that's why to this day I tell that story

976
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: oftentimes when I'm speaking to youth across this country. So

977
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: it just man, be careful how you making people feel.

978
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: You got business transactions. It don't have to feel slimmy

979
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: if business is being done, you know what I mean.

980
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: That don't mean business shouldn't be done, but it don't

981
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: have to feel slimmy.

982
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: You can have disagreements with people.

983
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: It don't have to be like, oh you an opt

984
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: forever just because we had one disagreement.

985
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: And that's all I want people to know.

986
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: What about gatekeepers? Did you find out in this industry?

987
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I found out that I found out the gatekeepers are real.

988
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: They real when you're now walking in the lane that

989
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: was uniquely designed for you. If I'm trying to be

990
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: in somebody else's lane that wasn't meant for me in

991
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: the first place. So you know what, I'm gonna get

992
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: met with with a bunch of resistance from gatekeepers to

993
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: where they're saying, well, since he thinked that this is

994
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: something that's meant for him, I'm gonna position myself to

995
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: where he got to come through me to get it.

996
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: And they might want your money, they might want sexual favors,

997
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: they might want just your integrity, they might want you

998
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: to water down your message. Gatekeepers are very real, and

999
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: it hasn't been until I was like, God, man, I

1000
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: don't care about going platinum. No more.

1001
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: I don't care about having to drive a certain type

1002
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: of car, no more. I don't care. Man.

1003
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: Do you truly not care?

1004
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Though?

1005
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 4: I truly listen, It's hard for me to believe this,

1006
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna push back on it because I want

1007
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 4: you to clarify because I just me as we've been speaking,

1008
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: You've worked hard for this thing, like you wanted this

1009
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 4: bro at the beginning, you knew I won't in this game.

1010
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: That has inspired me. Right, So do you truly not

1011
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: care about going platinum? Or are you saying that just

1012
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 4: to just cope with the reality that I may not

1013
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: go platinum with this message?

1014
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: Man, I respect that we finally crossing paths because I

1015
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: ain't met many like you, and you probably up until

1016
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: this point ain't met many like me. My first ever

1017
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: project that I put out, it's on streaming platforms. We

1018
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: got receipts. This sucker came out. I was still a

1019
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: college student and I knew, okay, this is my first project.

1020
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm monetizing. It's called I Am who I Am. On

1021
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: the very first song, bro, on the very first song,

1022
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I said, if I ain't post to rap, God, please

1023
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: let me know. But if I'm post to rap God,

1024
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: please let me blow. If I don't sell a lot

1025
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: of records, I ain't stressed. If I don't sell here,

1026
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm going Platinum in Heaven.

1027
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: Can you play that?

1028
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1029
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 4: I want the people to hear that the first song

1030
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: Platinum in Heaven, Platinum told No, lie y'all.

1031
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: It's sixteen years ago. Bo ain't told no last teen

1032
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: years ago. It's my first ever project.

1033
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd like to thank you for the dopportunity

1034
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: that men give to present your people to see it's

1035
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: just I Am one am Mick tape.

1036
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: It's probably poster rap call.

1037
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Please limit no got hear from poster rep call?

1038
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: Please live it blow one. Breaking sales is one thing

1039
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: nice sweating if I don't sell him.

1040
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 4: Going, boy, ain't told no lies. Literally the first literally,

1041
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: the first song.

1042
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: The first four ball come on man.

1043
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 4: The first song, the first four balls in two thousand

1044
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: and eight.

1045
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, you true to what you're saying.

1046
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Bro, Thank you, brother. That means a lot coming from you.

1047
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: The first four balls in two thousand then eight on

1048
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: a Yo, Bro, that's deep.

1049
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: That's some deep shit.

1050
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Bro, Thank you, Lord, thank you.

1051
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: That's deep to me, Bro, because I need so many

1052
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: fake because this shit. That's deep man. That that because

1053
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: because because I don't know how you live in this

1054
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 4: place where I know you want to be influential. I

1055
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: know you want to be like you don't cuss, you

1056
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: don't dre you don't do none of that. But I

1057
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: know you want to be at the top of the mound.

1058
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: Says this work, y'all, just like that work, this work.

1059
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: And it's like when I hear you say because the

1060
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: tongue is powerful. So when I hear you say I

1061
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 4: don't even want to go platinum no more, I wonder

1062
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: how how the universe receives that or does that block anything?

1063
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like, I'm trying to because

1064
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: I know the reason I don't know. But what I

1065
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: know about the universe and will power is that starting

1066
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: with what you explain to me, the level of willpower

1067
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: to want to get this thing off the ground, you

1068
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: can literally.

1069
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: Make that happen.

1070
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: But now to actually get here and have an opportunity

1071
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: to go platinum, because if we're being fair, you're in

1072
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: the industry, you have the connections, like you have a

1073
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: legit opportunity and chance with the right business surrounding it

1074
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 4: to go platinum.

1075
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: So to hear you say I don't even want to

1076
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: go platinum no more. Yeah, I wonder about like.

1077
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, did that block anything?

1078
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 4: Nah?

1079
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: It actually did the opposite, brother.

1080
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: It actually freed me from the slavery of defining success

1081
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: by a man made metric. What is going platinum in

1082
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: the eyes of God, they give a pluck about it,

1083
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: if you platinum or not. That's something to where the

1084
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: industry has said, we're gonna decide that a million units

1085
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: sold equals going platinum. We're going to make these big,

1086
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: fancy plaques. We're gonna make sure that when artists sell

1087
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: this amount that we get them pictures holding their plaques,

1088
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: and that's gonna make everybody who looks up to these

1089
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: artists be like that, right there is the definition of

1090
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: you made it or you did it big. I simply

1091
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: freed myself from that, and I'm not gonna be opposed

1092
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: to going platinum, but I'm like, that should never be

1093
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: the metric of success in the first place, because when

1094
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: you got a gun to your temple and you think

1095
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: in your life about the end, what can platinum status

1096
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: get you in that moment?

1097
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: Right?

1098
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 4: But See, I think platinum status outside of the industry

1099
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 4: because you have a gripe with the industry, So you

1100
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 4: gotta be careful with that because I think it speaks

1101
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: just to influence, right a million units. So with that message,

1102
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: I think the right words is I deserve to go platinum, right,

1103
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: But if you know, I don't know what the right

1104
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 4: words are.

1105
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: But it's like I wonder what the power of the tongue.

1106
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: I know you say say you look at it like

1107
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 4: you freeing yourself, But I don't know, Man, I don't.

1108
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: I don't like to speak ill against or speak you know, like.

1109
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, because it's like, yo, universe, God,

1110
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: I deserve to go platinum for this kind of work

1111
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm doing like this deserved platinum when I'm even if

1112
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: it ain't platinum. But when I'm talking this deserved platinum,

1113
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what I'm saying, But maybe that's

1114
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: not what's needed.

1115
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: Because God is just looking at it like you don't

1116
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: even deserve life. You ain't do nothing to deserve being born.

1117
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: You could have been a chair, you could have been

1118
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: a garbage can. I chose to make you into a

1119
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: human being. Who are you to start telling me what.

1120
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: You deserve just because I worked hard. I used to

1121
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: go to all the open mics. God, I'm d one.

1122
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I was a teacher, and then I used to be

1123
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: rapping around the town that I deserve this. Man, once again,

1124
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: do you have a spiritual worldview or do you have

1125
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: a worldly worldview? And that worldly worldview, what have you?

1126
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: It's like being on the football field. You on the field,

1127
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: so all you see is what's around you.

1128
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: From that perspective, that spiritual world of you is like

1129
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: you in the skybox where the coordinators be sitting, so

1130
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: you can look down at the field and you can

1131
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: see patterns and you can see plays that the players

1132
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: might not even see. Because you looking at it from

1133
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: a different angle, equivalent to that skybox view. Is what

1134
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like to think, like, dang, what does our creator

1135
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: look down at us and say, this is what I

1136
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: want from my creation?

1137
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: Since when do the creation get to dictate what they want?

1138
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Ai a robot, Man a ROBOTY ain't

1139
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: supposed to get out here and dictating. Now that you

1140
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: created me, I get to do what I want. Get

1141
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: out my face. You are not anything. I am my

1142
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: own man, man.

1143
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: I made you. Man, you can't dictate that. But that's

1144
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: what happened.

1145
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Is this free will that we've been blessed with has

1146
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: us feeling ourselves so much to where we so concerned

1147
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: with who we are.

1148
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: That we're forgetting whose we are? Who's are we? Man?

1149
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: We belong to God? Man.

1150
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: So going platinum feels so elementary when it's like, well,

1151
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: this is what I want or this is what I

1152
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: feel like I deserve. When you humble yourself to that point,

1153
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm still a dog, I'm still a beast, I'm still

1154
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: that dude at what I do at using my slingshot.

1155
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: But I'm also humble enough to where I know that

1156
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: none of this is entitled to me. I don't have

1157
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: an entitlement, you know. You know how we just be like, man,

1158
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: you gonna respect me, no matter what, You're gonna respect me. Man,

1159
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: we are not entitled to anybody having to respect us. Bro,

1160
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: Like we're not so ideally someone would respect us.

1161
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: Why don't think that?

1162
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: Because, Bro, if we don't know a person, then we

1163
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: would hope that the way they're cut and the way

1164
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: that they cloth is textured, that they would say, I'm

1165
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: just gonna show respect.

1166
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: To people off GP. But that person might be like,

1167
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: you gotta earn my respect. I don't know you. You gotta

1168
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: earn my respect.

1169
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: I can't get mad at you. If that's how you feel.

1170
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: That's how the rap game is. They don't just say,

1171
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: since you said you want to be a rapper, we

1172
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna respect you and feel like you dope.

1173
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta win over every crowd. Why you think

1174
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm on your show rapping?

1175
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't want him to just say, well, he could

1176
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: definitely talk him a little, had a heck of a conversation.

1177
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: Man, I gotta let these people know I really rap.

1178
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1179
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: So we apply this stuff selectively, man, selectively when we know.

1180
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Damn, I don't deserve nothing.

1181
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: Nobody owe me nothing. I gotta go get all this

1182
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: carr all these cameras, all this equipment. I gotta grind

1183
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: it out.

1184
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 4: But I would say after I get all these cameras

1185
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: and equipment, and if I take my time and understand

1186
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, I would say, yo, man, Like there's

1187
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: a point where I say, yo, I deserve a shot.

1188
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, Like I deserve I

1189
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 4: deserve a shot, Like I've put.

1190
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: The work in. I've like it's like going.

1191
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: To the gym every day working out and then say, God,

1192
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: I don't deserve no muscles.

1193
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: Even though I'm in here every day. God, I don't

1194
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: deserve no I mean, he'll work. It's like it's like, yo, man,

1195
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: like I want I won't let me see a little so.

1196
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: But but how do you apply that when you in

1197
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: the industry that's based on people rocking with you. You

1198
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: can't just put up to the people and be like,

1199
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: come on, man, I bought full cameras, I got three computers.

1200
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: Know, you put your work out. That's why I say,

1201
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: you don't ask them for it.

1202
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: But you speaking to God in the universe when you're

1203
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: saying subconsciously you speaking. When you say, man, I don't

1204
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 4: even want to go platinum no more? Right, that's when

1205
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like the power of the tongue in that

1206
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: moment is saying, oh.

1207
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: Well, I did say. I did say.

1208
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: If I don't sell a lot of records, I ain't

1209
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: stressing no, that's.

1210
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 3: In your rhymes.

1211
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: What made me say that to you is that you

1212
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: literally in the middle of us talking, was like, man,

1213
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: I used to do this, Man, I used to want

1214
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: to sell a mean records.

1215
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 3: Man, I don't even want to go platinum no more.

1216
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 3: And that's what made me say, Oh, man, you sure

1217
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 3: you want.

1218
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: To say less? Say less?

1219
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: If I said that, then yeah, there's no reason for

1220
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: me to say I don't want to go right, no more.

1221
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to going platinum. It's just not a

1222
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: it's just not hood over your head.

1223
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: It's it's not hanging over honestly, bro on some bucket

1224
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: list stuff. This was my bucket list getting into the game.

1225
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: Don't judge me because my bucket list is my own.

1226
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, it might be quirky or whatever. I wanted

1227
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: to meet DMX, who I grew up listened to all

1228
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: of his music, really looked up to DMX.

1229
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to meet DMX, check.

1230
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Met DMX, Master prayed with DMX backstage at one of

1231
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: his concerts, Amazing Dope. I wanted to meet Knives, the

1232
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: med Knives about fifteen.

1233
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 2: Times at this point.

1234
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: He wanted the ones too.

1235
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now it's congratulated me on from the hood to

1236
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Harvard and on what I'm doing at Harvard and on

1237
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: my fellowship. Uh, that was on my bucket list, going

1238
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club, on my bucket list.

1239
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: Just doing Finn do that six more days?

1240
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: You heard me all my bucket list.

1241
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to get signed to a major label because

1242
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: growing up it wasn't this whole independent It's dope era,

1243
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: right man, we're trying to get signed.

1244
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: You know what.

1245
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: That's a real rappers got signed.

1246
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: That's my bucket list, bro. Yeah that was that was

1247
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: That was That was my So.

1248
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 3: What keeps you going at this point.

1249
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: The impact that I see that I'm making on people's lives.

1250
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.

1251
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: That platinum plaque speaks to impact as well. You just

1252
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: don't like that the industry has wrapped this celebration around it.

1253
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that platinum plaque speaks to a

1254
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: million units got you. You know what I'm saying, A

1255
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: million people hearing that message that you've been pouring out

1256
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: for fifteen years. So to now get to this point

1257
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: and say, man like, just because the industry got me,

1258
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: so I'm so with that.

1259
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: Man, I don't even want to go platinum. It's like, bro,

1260
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: fifteen years of.

1261
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 2: This, that's that's a good point. That's a good point.

1262
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: So I guess the idea of going platinum has been

1263
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: replaced in terms of weasat on my list. It got

1264
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: put in a category of definitely not opposed to that

1265
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: on any level. Not opposed to going platinum, but not

1266
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: feeling like I'm a failure if I don't.

1267
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: So with gatekeepers with your message.

1268
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: If gatekeeping is real, what they keep you out of

1269
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 4: the industry at all? You've got four or five different deals,

1270
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: how do you remain in the industry of gatekeeping?

1271
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: Is real?

1272
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: Great question.