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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four NFL Draft has arrived and the

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Speaker 1: Browns made two of their selections on Friday night. Today,

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Speaker 1: on from the Podium, you're gonna hear from both of

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Speaker 1: the Brown's newest draft picks and of course, members of

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Speaker 1: the front office to discuss those draft picks. First up

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Speaker 1: was assistant general managers Glenn Cook and Catherine Rache. They

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Speaker 1: talked about why the Browns chose Mike Hall Junior from

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, and also what the process was for the

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Speaker 1: team at pick number fifty four.

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Speaker 2: So just to talk to the process a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, probably what twenty minutes before the pick, our

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Speaker 2: phone started ringing and really didn't stop, so, you know,

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Speaker 2: we had to really work through, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: what we wanted to do there, you know, looking through

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Speaker 2: all the options, and I think, you know, ultimately came

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Speaker 2: down to just the talent. He's a really talented young man,

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Speaker 2: you know, the way I would describe as a shape shifter,

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Speaker 2: the way he can move his body, the way he

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Speaker 2: can attack the quarterback. I think probably next to Andrew,

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Speaker 2: the most happiest person was was Jim Swartz. Just with

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Speaker 2: our attacking style. He really fits our model and our style.

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Speaker 2: So just really sided with with with his ability with

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Speaker 2: his upside was his ability to impact the quarterback. Those

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Speaker 2: are the things I would highlight just to start, but

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Speaker 2: really excited to I mean really excited to get him.

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Speaker 3: Tray down.

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Speaker 4: I mean we worked through it.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I told Kat when we were sitting there,

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Speaker 2: we worked through a few scenarios earlier this week and

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Speaker 2: this was this was one of them. Uh So I

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Speaker 2: think we had had played it out in our minds

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Speaker 2: and and kind of thought through what was the best

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Speaker 2: uh choice and decision for us at the time, and

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Speaker 2: ultimately just came down to the players. Sometimes you just

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Speaker 2: have to sit and and you know, collect talent for

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Speaker 2: your team. So that's that's how we thought through it.

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Speaker 5: Calm report on him says he he might be a

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Speaker 5: little like to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: What is your response today?

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Speaker 6: I think when you look at how we play the

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Speaker 6: position and how we ask our guys to get off

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Speaker 6: how quick they need to be, that's what Michael is

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Speaker 6: going to bring to the table. I mean, Jim got

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Speaker 6: on the phone with him, gave him a quiz and

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Speaker 6: he was ready to roll, and you know he's about

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Speaker 6: to he's about to be the engine of the defense.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not.

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Speaker 6: Going to use the words that they used, but let's

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Speaker 6: just say mess things up in the in the front there.

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Speaker 6: So I think I think that's what he's going to

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Speaker 6: bring to the table.

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Speaker 7: More than one player option that the problems would have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we felt good about what

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Speaker 2: our options were. You know, again, that's probably again we

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Speaker 2: were working through that. Yeah, Honestly, I don't think we

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Speaker 2: expected as many causes as we got, so that maybe

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Speaker 2: But we felt good about, you know, our alternatives regardless

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Speaker 2: of what we need to do. But fortunately we didn't

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Speaker 2: have to. Yeah, I think, I mean, we had enough

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Speaker 8: That go off to the board before you guys get

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Speaker 8: up there, does it How much of that does that

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Speaker 8: affect the thinking of well maybe this is the right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's just a part of, you know,

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Speaker 2: the calculations that Andrew has to work through in his

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Speaker 2: to think, maybe, you know, he goes a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: But I credit Andrew's patience, you know, not you know,

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Speaker 2: getting too nervous about you know, him potentially not making

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Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't though, like that's that's sort of the

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Speaker 6: And the thing I would add there is the pastor

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Speaker 6: of skill set on the interior is really something that

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Speaker 6: a great outcome for us.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, added to group, Jefferson resigned Hurst and Harris and

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Speaker 7: you have like Kia going into a second year. So

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Speaker 7: Michael Hall kind of contribute as a workie.

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Speaker 4: Do you think I.

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Speaker 2: Think he's got to earn it? You know, just like

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Speaker 2: all our guys. Uh, you know, we'd love if he did.

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Speaker 2: You know, look, you can never She just said that

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Speaker 2: he's got to come in obviously integrate himself into the

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Speaker 2: to the way we do things. But we hope he does.

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Speaker 2: But we also I think Andrew has talked about this,

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Speaker 2: like we need to force him to do that. This

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Speaker 2: is one of those things where, you know, hopefully he

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Speaker 2: few years. We're not necessarily worried about day one. Does

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Speaker 2: Michael Hall come in and play ady snaps. He's got

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Speaker 2: earn its, you know. So day one is just coming in,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll see what it looks like in September.

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Speaker 6: And Toanye, I would add like as Jim, Jim does

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Speaker 6: a great job keeping the guys fresh and having a

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Speaker 6: really good invitation in there. So as Glynn said, you

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Speaker 6: can't have too many.

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Speaker 9: That's what you were saying about the position itself that

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Speaker 9: run on the tackles. The way they're getting paid. How

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Speaker 9: are you seeing the profile of this position change, you know,

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Speaker 9: especially over the last few years.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's rushing. I mean the premium is really

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Speaker 6: so so getting to the quarterback and making sure you

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Speaker 6: has just been really really an emphasis for all teams

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Speaker 6: I think are just going to continue to either go

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Speaker 10: What you were saying in your last years that he's

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Speaker 10: not even twenty one yet. How enticing is that when

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Speaker 10: you're evaluating him and what you see on film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a part of it when you're thinking

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Speaker 2: through who these players will be, you know, year one,

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Speaker 2: year two, year five, you know, the age component, the

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Speaker 2: the experience not only you know, just playing in college,

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Speaker 2: but just their their full life of football, So you

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Speaker 2: know it's again, when he's doing what he's doing at

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Speaker 2: twenty one, you're hopefully expecting him to just only get better.

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Speaker 2: So it's a part of it for sure.

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Speaker 11: Experience last year with Dewand and how he was able

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Speaker 11: to come in here and function so well and just

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Speaker 11: get thrown right into the fire.

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Speaker 3: Did that come into play at all in this decision.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a credit to like our coaches, our

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Speaker 6: player development staff. Like, one thing we take great pride

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Speaker 6: in is how we get to know these players before

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Speaker 6: they're in the building, and once they are in the building,

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Speaker 6: how we put everything we can around them to support them,

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Speaker 6: help them develop, and hopefully have them as contributors as

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Speaker 6: early as possible. So definitely great experience with the one,

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Speaker 6: and that's something we want to put in place for

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Speaker 6: every single player that becomes a Brown. And Michael's given

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Speaker 6: me no exception.

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Speaker 4: To that, was there.

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Speaker 3: I mean you talked a lot about the straights and

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Speaker 3: the potential.

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Speaker 12: Is there something specifically you look at say this is

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Speaker 12: to really maximize his potential. Is there a specific trade

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Speaker 12: or part of his game you see currently that that fits.

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Speaker 2: That Bill, I mean that you could say that for

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Speaker 2: every guy, So yes, you know, I think all these

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Speaker 2: can go for Miles to anyone on our team. They're

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Speaker 2: trying to get better at something. Do you want me

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Speaker 2: to pinpoint a specific I think for him, this sky's

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Speaker 2: he's gotta come in and just maximize what he what

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Speaker 2: he what he is, you know. I I don't think

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Speaker 2: to be but himself. That's how I would put it

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Speaker 2: on this player. To be honest, are similar grades?

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Speaker 3: Are the players from different positions? What determines the player?

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Speaker 3: Is it your roster that he per determines who you'll pick?

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Speaker 7: Like if you're look debating over a linebacker receiver and

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Speaker 7: Michael Hall, is it strictly his talent or do you

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Speaker 7: look at your roster and say he's liable to help

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Speaker 3: Than the linebacker or the receiver.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it's black and white, and even

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Speaker 2: in the year uh y, you probably should anchor your

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Speaker 2: decisions a little bit to just show overall philosophy. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and I think we try to do that, but I

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Speaker 2: I would probably be remiss to try to pinpoint it

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Speaker 2: systematically this way every single time.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty fluid.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes it is the talent, sometimes it is

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Speaker 2: the state, and then sure you're rashing your team. Uh

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's it's just the overall value you

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Speaker 2: there's a straightforward yes or no answer, is that it's.

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Speaker 3: On the board or they among your possible choices.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we talk about all scenarios as as Glenn mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 6: So most definitely in our process, Tony is really collaborative.

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Speaker 6: So when you think about what goes into that decision,

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Speaker 6: there's just so many, so many elements that goes into

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Speaker 6: the integrated projection, whether that's with the data, what our

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Speaker 6: model is saying, what the coach's evaluation when we had

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Speaker 6: these guys in a top thirty, visit the character information,

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Speaker 6: medical as you know, like there's just so many things.

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Speaker 6: So yes, definitely, positional value is it is an element

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Speaker 13: Did you say something about the market for defensive tackles

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Speaker 13: we go on?

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Speaker 14: Can you here if you elaborate.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of course as you could, like you

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Speaker 6: saw last I mean, I would say last two free

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Speaker 6: now and when they can rush the passer, there's definitely

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Speaker 6: been a league premium on that skill set. You can

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Speaker 13: So when you evaluate character, what stood out about Michael's

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Speaker 14: Michael, congratulations. What does it mean to be from Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: And I'm Michael.

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Speaker 5: These scouting reports always find ways to net pick. And

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Speaker 16: Hey, Michael Cameron Justice from News five Cleveland here, congratulations.

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Speaker 16: Before this draft, Denzel Ward was asked about what Buckeyes

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, to O High guys growing up here,

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Speaker 14: Hey, Michael tom Witherson the AP we saw it on

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Speaker 4: The season last year. What what's fatherhood been like for you?

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Speaker 12: So Hey, Mike Chrissie Schmiprinier can be in general. Uh,

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Speaker 11: Michael, I'm sure you watched the the success that Dwan

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Speaker 15: Oh yeah, that's my dog, you know, Dwan he just

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Speaker 10: Hey, Michael Ashley Pasdak from Cleveland dot Com. Again, I

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Speaker 15: I kind of made my decision before the season started.

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Speaker 3: Know, as a whole up.

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Speaker 1: Next was the eighty fifth pick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 14: Was za Tom Orers Associated press some first of all,

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Speaker 4: How does the leg? How's that healed?

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 14: Hey, we were looking at the video. What was that

442
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Speaker 14: Michael Hall that fell on your the back of your leg.

443
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of kind of strange that you

444
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Speaker 4: guys are now together. Huh.

445
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Speaker 18: I mean everything comes full circle, I guess, huh.

446
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Speaker 5: It's kind of weird to ask this, but do you

447
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 5: feel lucky Dad? You just had a broken fibula and tibia.

448
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Speaker 18: Yeah, No, definitely. I mean I've been saying all along

449
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Speaker 18: that this is the best worst case scenario, you know.

450
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Speaker 18: I mean it's just bone, bone heels easy, way better,

451
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Speaker 18: way better than ligaments and the knee or the ankles.

452
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Speaker 18: So I mean it's a clean break and you know,

453
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Speaker 18: the bone's heeling great, So definitely the best case scenario.

454
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Speaker 11: Yeah, just wondering if you heard, you know, did you

455
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Speaker 11: talk to Michael after that at all? Did you ever

456
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Speaker 11: hear from him? Have you guys had any connection since

457
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 11: that moment? And just kind of sort of how bizarre

458
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 11: is it that after that sort of fateful play that

459
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 11: you guys are ending up here together and you're going

460
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Speaker 11: to be going against each other and practice.

461
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Speaker 9: And all of that.

462
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I talked to him once around a

463
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Speaker 18: visit together, you know. But he's a great dude, and

464
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 18: it's it's football, you know, stuff happens when we're playing

465
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Speaker 18: in the trenches. But you know, I'm fired up and

466
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 18: I think everything happens for a reason, so you know,

467
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 18: just kind of a full circle moment, you know, for

468
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Speaker 18: that to happen, and now we're going to be teammates.

469
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Speaker 18: So you know, I'm just I'm fired up to get

470
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Speaker 18: there and you know, get to work with him and

471
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Speaker 18: practice for sure.

472
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Speaker 4: Hi, Zach.

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Speaker 10: Ashley Bastak from Cleveland dot Com. I mean, it just

474
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Speaker 10: seemed like after your injury that that team really rallied

475
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Speaker 10: around you just about in every way possible. And we've

476
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Speaker 10: heard a lot about your leadership. I guess, just how

477
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Speaker 10: do you think that that aspect of who you are

478
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Speaker 10: as a person and a player can translate into the NFL?

479
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Speaker 4: Now?

480
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Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, I mean I'm a humble, hardworking dude

481
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 18: that you know, you know, I've built a lot of

482
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Speaker 18: relationships and you know was was became a leader at Michigan,

483
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Speaker 18: and you know, I'm excited to do the same thing.

484
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 18: Come in and just keep my head down and work

485
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 18: hard and you know, prove myself to the guys that

486
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 18: are already there, and you know, whoever I can to

487
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 18: help teams want to help the team win.

488
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Speaker 16: On Sunday, Zach Andrew Berry said that he was excited

489
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Speaker 16: about the fact that he thinks you're going to fit

490
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Speaker 16: into a what is a blue collar offensive line? What

491
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Speaker 16: about this unit, the guys that are on here and

492
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Speaker 16: maybe this city of Cleveland. Are you kind of feel

493
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Speaker 16: like you were going to fit into well here in

494
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Speaker 16: mind with a blue.

495
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Speaker 18: Collar And yeah, I mean I love it. You know,

496
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 18: I'm a blue collar guy at heart. You know, I

497
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 18: love hunting and fishing, and you know, I think Michigan's

498
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Speaker 18: a blue collar team too, So you know, I've been

499
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Speaker 18: around it for four years, especially in the O line room.

500
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Speaker 18: Just a bunch of dudes that work hard and you know,

501
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Speaker 18: love to play ball. So I think you know, the

502
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Speaker 18: city of Cleveland and you know, the whole group that's there,

503
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Speaker 18: the team, the line. You know, I'm excited and pumped

504
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 18: to get in there and start getting to know the

505
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Speaker 18: guys and you know, just get to work.

506
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Speaker 12: Hey, Zach, kind of following up on that, you know,

507
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Speaker 12: how much have you watched Joel Antonio and Wyatt Teller over,

508
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 12: you know, over the course of their career and and

509
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 12: what do you know? How much do you know about them?

510
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 12: And excited to kind of be able to have two

511
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Speaker 12: guys of that caliber to kind of kind of learn from.

512
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 15: Yeah.

513
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Speaker 3: No, I'm pumped.

514
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Speaker 18: You know, obviously I've seen them and watch them over

515
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 18: the years, and you know, just have guys like that

516
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Speaker 18: where I can come in and you know try to

517
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 18: you know, follow in their footsteps and you know, try

518
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 18: to learn how they do it, and you know, just

519
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 18: get in there and learn from them and try to

520
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 18: do whatever I can to help the team win. So

521
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Speaker 18: I'm excited to you know, be able to learn from

522
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Speaker 18: them along the way.

523
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Speaker 8: Hey, Zach, just how hard was that after the broken

524
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Speaker 8: leg and then watching what Michigan was able to do?

525
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Speaker 8: You know, I know you the teammates celebrated you and

526
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Speaker 8: you were there for all of it, but just how

527
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Speaker 8: difficult was that experience for you?

528
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean it's definitely bittersweet. You know, I decided

529
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Speaker 18: to come back for my senior year last year to

530
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Speaker 18: you know, come back with the guys and compete and

531
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Speaker 18: win a national championship, and you know, to go down

532
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Speaker 18: and my senior night last year in the Big House,

533
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 18: you know, against Ohio State all that kind of stuff.

534
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 18: I mean, it's definitely bittersweet. But you know, the boys

535
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 18: rallied around me, and you know, we came out on top.

536
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Speaker 16: Hey, Zach Kelsey Russo from Cleveland Browns dot com. What

537
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 16: was that first phone call like with Andrew Berry and

538
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Speaker 16: Kevin Stefanski just welcoming you to the team.

539
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I was fired up. You know, we're

540
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 18: down in the base, not all my family around me,

541
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Speaker 18: and it was just a great call. You know, they're

542
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Speaker 18: excited to have me. I'm fired up to get there,

543
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Speaker 18: and you know, I just I don't think I could

544
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Speaker 18: have gone to a better team, and you know, I'm

545
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Speaker 18: just excited to get there.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, head coach Kevin Stevinski and GM Andrew Berry wrapped

547
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Speaker 1: up the day and recapped everything that we need to

548
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Speaker 1: know about the Browns two draft picks and also what

549
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Speaker 1: the plan could be for Saturday and Day three of

550
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so closing Day two of the draft with Mike Hollin,

552
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Speaker 4: Zach Zenter just quickly what you know appealed to us

553
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: about both players. You know, with Mike, he's really tailor

554
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: made for our attack front. He's explosive, he's quick, he

555
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: can rush the passer, he's long, and he plays really

556
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: with a very high motor. He's really the quintessential three

557
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: technique in our defense. And for us, pass rushers will

558
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 4: always come at a premium, especially those that can affect

559
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: the pocket from inside, and we think that that's something

560
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Speaker 4: that Mike will be able to do along our front.

561
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Speaker 4: So we're we're we're really excited to kind of keep

562
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Speaker 4: him home, so to speak, and think his skill set

563
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Speaker 4: and passion really matches perfectly for our organization. And then

564
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Speaker 4: with Zach, I think you guys all know that, you know,

565
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 4: we'll be a team that invests in the trenches, invests

566
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Speaker 4: in the old line. You know, Zach we just thought

567
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: was a rock solid all around player his entire career

568
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: at Michigan. You know, he was really, uh you know,

569
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Speaker 4: part of the really the heartbeat of their culture. You

570
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Speaker 4: know when we met with him throughout the pre draft process.

571
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Speaker 4: You know, very smart, professional, passionate about football, and I

572
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Speaker 4: think his blue collar mentality will really fit well within

573
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Speaker 4: our offensive line room. So we're we're very excited to

574
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Speaker 4: add both guys to the team tonight. And with that,

575
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Speaker 4: I'll open up for questions.

576
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Speaker 3: Like a red shirt this year? Can you think will

577
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Speaker 3: he played?

578
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Speaker 4: You know, I think for any player that we had,

579
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Speaker 4: any work that we add like time will tell, Like

580
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think any of us can really

581
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: make that cause we sit here today. The one thing I,

582
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: you know, always talk about with Kevin there there there

583
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: typically aren't any Red Shirts in the NFL, Like everyone

584
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: who's on the fifty three will be called into action

585
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Speaker 4: at some point, but you know, we're just excited to

586
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Speaker 4: get him the building and get them up and running.

587
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: Oh I got you, Yes, yes, yes, yes, Michael the

588
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: one who rolled up on Zach? Sorry is Michael the

589
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: one who rolled up on Zach? I don't know if

590
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: the top of my head, tom So.

591
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Speaker 3: But was it difficult to resist trading fifty four? Glenn said,

592
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: there were a lot of PM calls.

593
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we gave a lot of thought

594
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Speaker 4: to doing so. Honestly, we felt like with the run

595
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: of you know, players that we thought had the potential

596
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: for real interior pass rush ahead of us, you know,

597
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: that was probably our last opportunity to get a prospect

598
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: that we thought could do that in a what I

599
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: would say like a featured manner. So ultimately the offers

600
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 4: weren't enticing enough for us to move off the spot,

601
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: but we did give it great consideration.

602
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Speaker 3: Before.

603
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Speaker 5: But it seems like you really do like to go

604
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Speaker 5: to big schools like Ohio State, Michigan. What what is

605
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 5: the attraction there?

606
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Speaker 4: I think that's probably just coincidence, Jeff. We look for

607
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: the best players. They come in all different shapes and sizes.

608
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: You know, we had guys on our board that were

609
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: part of Power five conferences, group of eight, and you know,

610
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: and and and what I would say, like, you know,

611
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 4: non D one conferences. So that's just kind of how

612
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: it's worked out. I wouldn't say that there's any bias

613
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Speaker 4: in that regard.

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Speaker 3: So I think that.

615
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Speaker 13: It was said that Jim Schwartz was the happiest man

616
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Speaker 13: in the room when you selected Haul. Just if you

617
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Speaker 13: get to talk about how he's gonna they you know,

618
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 13: fitted to your defensive front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim, anytime you get a pass rusher, Jim's happy.

620
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think one of the hardest things

621
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: to find are players that either can or you project

622
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: to have the ability to affect the quarterback from inside,

623
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Speaker 4: because you know, we're in a we're in a favorable

624
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: situation where you know you have you know, either Miles

625
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: or or Z on the outside, and they really dictate

626
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: the protection for the offense. That usually means in this game,

627
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: you know the interior player opposite them is going to

628
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: get the one on one matchup with the guards. So

629
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Speaker 4: guys that can convert a one on one into pressure

630
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Speaker 4: on a relatively consistent basis, they have great They have

631
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Speaker 4: great value for this scheme. But they also have great

632
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Speaker 4: value you know when paired with the best defensive player.

633
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Speaker 3: In football, Elibliza, they had Joel and White.

634
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Speaker 19: For a guy like Zach coming in, yeah, extremely valuable.

635
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 19: And you know he's coming into a really talented room,

636
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 19: a room that supports each other. They'll push each other.

637
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 19: But anytime you can attach yourself to veterans that have

638
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 19: been there and done it at your position, I think

639
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 19: is huge able.

640
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Speaker 3: To work out for you guys, Zach Zach inter.

641
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Speaker 4: So we I mean I won't like we didn't do

642
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: a private or anything like that, but we felt really

643
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: good about the medical. You know, they did send video

644
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: of him, you know, moving around, you know, on his

645
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: own and kind of at his I would say, like

646
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: maybe private workouts, but he'll be ready to go this

647
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: this spring and there's really no concern about the Like, yeah, you.

648
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Speaker 11: Feel about the defensive tackle position because you know you

649
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 11: signed some guys.

650
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Speaker 3: You got Clinton.

651
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Speaker 11: I mean, it just looks like a really super strong

652
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 11: room right now.

653
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we'll always want to be strong up

654
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, up front. You know, we want to you know,

655
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: make sure that you know our defensive front. It's a

656
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: lot like the Guardians have a reliever day right where

657
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: they're they're they're throwing uh you know, call it five

658
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: or six pictures for one to two innings apiece. You know,

659
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: that's really how our defensive line rotation. That's that's that's

660
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: what it's dedicated upon. His guys throwing fastballs and then

661
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: you're really exchanging them out almost like almost like hockey shifts.

662
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: That's maybe a better, you know, better analogy. So you know,

663
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: we have to have depth there with the way that

664
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: we play in the style of this specific scheme, and

665
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: we feel good about the guys that we have in

666
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: the room.

667
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 13: And all the attentions seem to be focused on wide

668
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 13: receiver person and tight ends. When it came to the

669
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 13: speculation about what you might do you come out of

670
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 13: this with, you know, two guys in the trenches here.

671
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 13: Was it a matter of, you know, those players just

672
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 13: weren't there for you anymore, or did you just you know,

673
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 13: feel like that the.

674
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 9: Two guys you got superseded what was available.

675
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: I can't help it if people don't believe what I

676
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: say every time I'm up here before the draft. So

677
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I'm pretty clear in terms of,

678
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: you know, our philosophy in that regard. You know, I

679
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: can't help it if people don't pay attention.

680
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 7: There's other positions at fifty four that were serious consideration.

681
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: Now, we felt really good about Michael. And that's not

682
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: to say that there were an other players that we

683
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: liked that you know, went off, you know, after the

684
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: pick or something along those lines. It's not like he

685
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: was the only good prospect at that spot, but we

686
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: thought he was the best prospect for us.

687
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 11: Sort of a biased guy now in the building and

688
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 11: Mike Frable.

689
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: Did he uh he didn't.

690
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 11: Did he kind of helped push you guys over there

691
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 11: a little bit.

692
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: You know, he got to he got to spend some

693
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: time with with Mike, you know, as well as you

694
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: know the rest of our coaching staff when he was

695
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: in for his thirty visit. You know, Mike obviously likes

696
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: his buck Eys, but we really follow the process, you know,

697
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: through and through. But you know, we have a lot

698
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: of happy people in the building today.

699
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 8: Isn't the get younger it both interiors.

700
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: Both sides of them.

701
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that that was a specific goal. I

702
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: think we're we're not naive to the fact that, you know,

703
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: we have guys that are either in their prime or

704
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: the later stages of their prime. But I can't say

705
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: that that was the primary purpose for selecting players that

706
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: we did tonight.

707
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 11: Jeans for for Michael include any kind of a convo

708
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 11: with with Dewand because they seem to be super close and.

709
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: Really uh, we have a lot of Ohio State alum

710
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: who were very excited and and and very positive on

711
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: my call. Actually, the the individual that you all should

712
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: talk to on Mike is as Luke Whippler. They were,

713
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: you know, locker mats and you know, lifting mats for

714
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: for two years at Ohio State. They might as well

715
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: be brothers.

716
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: Zach was is.

717
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 12: I mean it was such a leader, you know, viewed

718
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 12: so strongly in that Michigan you know locker room. But

719
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 12: you know that those intangibles, that sort of thing. How

720
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 12: much you know, how much do you guys you know

721
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 12: when you're you're you're breaking up, especially him how much did.

722
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: That kind of the the you know, the the football

723
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: makeup of an individual always comes into plays as part

724
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: of the you know, the valuation of where you're going

725
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: to take him off the board or how you're going

726
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: to invest you invest in the player, and and and

727
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: that's something that that you know, came back. Union is

728
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: really strong with everyone that you know, we talked with

729
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: that was around the Michigan program, So you know, it's

730
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: certain it certainly played a role, and we're signed at

731
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: him to the group.

732
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Have a first round grade without the injury.

733
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that I could you know, I don't

734
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: know that I could speculate on that, Tony. I just

735
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: know that we liked him. I can't Yeah, I don't

736
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: know what the rest of the league would have would

737
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: have thought.

738
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 11: That Joel Antonio comes back and just isn't ready.

739
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 19: To hang it up, not necessarily in that in that way,

740
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 19: Mary Kay's he's a huge part of what we do.

741
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: He's a huge part of who we are.

742
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 19: You know, I had a lot of conversations with him,

743
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 19: uh over the years, but not worrying about those type

744
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 19: of things. He's just been a great leader for us,

745
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 19: been a great player for us, and he'll continue to

746
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 19: do that.

747
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 10: Sack sacked numbers for Michael we're down a little bit,

748
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 10: and Glenn talked about this too, But what are some

749
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 10: other things that you guys really liked about his pass

750
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 10: rush that really showed.

751
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 19: For his film.

752
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit. I remember

753
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: when we selected Martin and I think one of the

754
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: first questions was like, oh, well, this guy had zero

755
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: interceptions his last year, one career interception. And it's it's

756
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: kind of like when we've talked about Miles like over

757
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: the past the second half of the year, where I

758
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: think everybody focuses on sacks when really with Mike, you know,

759
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: he was really one of the more disruptive forces in

760
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: college football, specifically in pass rush. Like you know guys

761
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: that can you know, win one on one, they create pressure.

762
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: Like that's just a lot more informative than looking at

763
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: someone's counting stats or sack numbers, which just aren't as predictive.

764
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: You know, Mike has you know, really exceptional physical tools.

765
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: He has outstanding get off quickness, He's very long, and

766
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: he uses his hands well and I think specifically, as

767
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 4: he continued, I mean he's only twenty years old. As

768
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: he continues to grow into his body, he can already

769
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: win two ways, and I think realistically he'll very quickly

770
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: learn how to win three. So guys that can do that,

771
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: they're just very hard to block when you give them

772
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: a two way go and the slidest is pushed away

773
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: from him.

774
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Do you have at the Ohio State Michigan game this year?

775
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: I have no idea, Tony. I do not remember. I

776
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: do not remember. It seems like eons ago those.

777
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: Trade offers before you picked Michael.

778
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 8: How much was not having a four round pick a

779
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 8: factor in whether.

780
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: Or not you're going to make it fourth form?

781
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: It was part of it, Like, it was definitely part

782
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: of the thought process. I'm not going to sit here

783
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: and tell you that I wouldn't have liked to, you know,

784
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: walk out of the evening with an earlier pick in

785
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: day three. But you have to balance that with what

786
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: the actual offer is. Like, I'm not gonna, you know,

787
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 4: I'm not going to prioritize that over everything else. If

788
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: it's a you know, if it's a bad offer to

789
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: move back, or if you're at the end of a

790
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: run at a you know, for a premium skill set,

791
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: and so all that comes into consideration when you're making

792
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: the decision. Gwent had mentioned it.

793
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 20: To when you guys were gaming through your draft scenarios.

794
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 20: The scenario that occurred actually happened where you had trade

795
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 20: offers coming in, the phones, ringing off the hook, and

796
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 20: haul sitting there. Just is there any satisfaction there you

797
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 20: take away from that where you know, something that you

798
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 20: had worked on it just kind of fell the way

799
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 20: that you'd hope.

800
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's probably just more credit to

801
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: just our process for preparation with strategy and and you know,

802
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: particularly kant Kovas, she deserves a ton of credit because

803
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: he really heads the month of April with our with

804
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: our strategy prep. So really at that point it ends

805
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: up being about execution. And it was a similar scenario.

806
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: I can't say it was the exact same, but I

807
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, because of that part of the process,

808
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: you know, we never really come into a draft where

809
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: there's something that really catches us off guard.

810
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 11: Experience with Dewined last year and how well he integrated and.

811
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: Was able to get thrown into the fire.

812
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 11: Informed in any way your selection of Michael or do

813
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 11: you take these guys on such a.

814
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: Case yeah, it's all I would consider those two you know,

815
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: completely separate, you know circumstances. But look, we get a

816
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: lot of insight into Ohio state for all the obvious reasons,

817
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: and we would feel we're really excited, feel really good

818
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: about Mike peasible.

819
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: At all to get in the fourth round tomorrow.

820
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: What do you have anything's feasible? I mean, we'll see,

821
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: we'll see, we'll see if tomorrow tune and tomorrow see

822
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: you have a trick up by sleeve or too.

823
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 9: Bad defensive tackle position Like some of the contracts that

824
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 9: have been handed out the last couple of years, the

825
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 9: run that kind of proceeded your guys's pick. Are you

826
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 9: seeing a changing and have see in their prayer oritizing

827
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: that position?

828
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: I think it's less about how they're prioritizing the position

829
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: in general and more about paying a premium for guys

830
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: that can rush the passer from inside, because that's that's

831
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: just it's one of the hardest skill sets to find.

832
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: So players that can do that, like you said, Dan,

833
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 4: that's a you know that's gonna be that's already north

834
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: of a twenty five million dollar player, and so, you know,

835
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: I think it's really more that as opposed to just

836
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: any defensive tackle, it's the guys that can rush.

837
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 8: On kay on my call.

838
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 5: I mean, so I go to this NFL dot Com

839
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: Scott Many important.

840
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: Because I don't know if these guys and uh me

841
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: both and c Line says that maybe he's too small.

842
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: He picked out his size, that he's too small to

843
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 5: be a durable NFL defensive tackle. So what do you

844
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: say to that, Chris.

845
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: So who is arguably the greatest defense attack of all time.

846
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: Scotty put on him ten years ago.

847
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: I was basically the same thing.

848
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: You know, you look at John Randle like, I think

849
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: all of that really depends on what you're asking them

850
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: to do, you know, within the scheme, and also just

851
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: just quite honestly, not everybody with the same dimensions is

852
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: built the same like Mike's. He's he's very long. He

853
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 4: was I think he was actually two ninety nine at

854
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 4: his pro day and he's twenty years old, so, I mean,

855
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: the weight, it was never really an issue for us,

856
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: even if he even if he didn't show up at

857
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: two ninety nine at the proday or anything like that.

858
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: And I'm sure, I mean, he may not admit it

859
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: publicly but I'm sure a little bit of that was

860
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 4: probably waterweight anyway. But no, I think in this scheme again,

861
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: it's about it's about getting off the line and rushing

862
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: the passer, and we really stopped the run game with numbers,

863
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 4: you know, I you know, I think you know when

864
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: Jim got hired and we talked to you guys earlier.

865
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: It's not about it's not a space eating position for us.

866
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: We want guys who can move, and so our prototype

867
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: for the position is going to look a little bit

868
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: different than other, you know, other schemes in the league.

869
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