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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Spreading the corn.

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Speaker 1: Ten seconds remaining, Son, just go throw up to the basket.

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Speaker 3: Under the basket, it's the truit for the wind.

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Speaker 2: God by a miracle.

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Speaker 2: Hit that one from the parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 3: bet MGM. I am your host, Kai McEwan, joined by

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Speaker 3: the rest of the three man Weave crew, Jim Root

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Speaker 3: and Matt Cox. Fellas, we have a fantastic show today.

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Speaker 3: It's our weekly show, our usual segments, starting with, of

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Speaker 3: course the live Dog of the week and Fellas, we

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Speaker 3: got one right, we got one outright winner. Last week

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Speaker 3: Rice came through for us against Western Kentucky. What a sad,

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Speaker 3: sad team Western Kentucky is jim Rick Stanleys Ferry, what

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Speaker 3: are you doing over there?

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Speaker 2: Well, he has been away from the team for health issues,

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Speaker 2: so I don't want to throw that too many stones,

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Speaker 2: that Rick in particular, but that team is a very

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Speaker 2: bad favorite. It is rare that we come to a

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Speaker 2: unanimous consensus on a live Dog of the week, and

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Speaker 2: we were all all over Rice, and thankfully that was

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Speaker 2: the one that did well and we don't need to

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Speaker 2: worry about the others, right.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, well, we will mention it because we'd like to

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Speaker 3: keep ourselves honest. Here Matthew on the Big Bets on

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Speaker 3: Campus podcast, Georgetown came up short against Paul Ducane, lost

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Speaker 3: to Dayton, Georgia State lost to James Madison, and Colorado

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Speaker 3: State lost in Mexico. In fact, I think those teams

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Speaker 3: all went zero to four against the spread, not just.

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Speaker 1: That's good, right, That's what you want when we endorse

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Speaker 1: money line dogs, Kyle. We want our teams to not

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Speaker 1: only not win, but not cover, so we feel justified

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Speaker 1: in endorsing money line Pyes, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Colorado State will be healthy again someday. They are

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Speaker 2: just ravaged by injuries. Yep.

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Speaker 3: The injuries didn't help. And we will take excuses whatever

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Speaker 3: we can make them. That's what gamblers do.

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Speaker 2: They make excuses and my other excuses. Why did I

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Speaker 2: bet Georgetown's Yes, dum, don't bet Georgetown.

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Speaker 3: Every gambler is the most screwed person on earth. Ah Man,

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Speaker 3: I get screwed every game. This always happens to me.

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Speaker 3: Ah the gambo's fallacy. All right, Live Dog of the

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Speaker 3: Week for this week. I picked a few out here

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Speaker 3: for Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Mine where as mine.

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Speaker 3: Bellas as always, please feel free to add some at

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Speaker 3: the end here. Not a whole lot of like slam

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Speaker 3: dunk options, I would say in quotation marks Wednesday, though,

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Speaker 3: I'm throwing these out there. See if you guys like it,

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Speaker 3: see if it sticks to the wall. Yukon's at Providence,

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Speaker 3: Providence plus six on Kimpum. They are in control right

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Speaker 3: now of the Big East. Yukon just lost to Xavier.

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Speaker 3: I still think Yukon's the best team in the country,

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Speaker 3: but you never know. And then Massou plus eight at Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: who says no? The Missouri Tigers continue there, streak and

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Speaker 3: beat the Hogs at bud Walton. What a site that

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Speaker 3: would be. And then finally on Wednesday, Colorado State again

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Speaker 3: plus six at Nevada. We have to know the health

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Speaker 3: situation of course of the Rams. There are others some

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Speaker 3: a ten Missouri Valley games as well, but those three

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Speaker 3: stuck out to me as options on Wednesday. Fellow's thoughts

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Speaker 2: Thursday, Well, Providence never loses, so why not just go

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Speaker 2: with Providence? So it was impervious to any sort of

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Speaker 2: bad performance right now at Kolia is a monster and

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Speaker 2: I believe our good pal John Fanta said he thinks

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Speaker 2: it's going to be the best environment of the season. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Providence is going to be blowing the roof off of

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Speaker 2: the old dunk. Maybe if the Yukon hadn't lost his Xavier,

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Speaker 2: I would probably say matt that Yukon actually writes the ship.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not actually going to endorse Providence. But of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oero for three here, but been the closest for

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Speaker 3: I buy that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think my number is going to really

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Speaker 3: in Pacific. Hey, they're scrappy. They just beat Loyal and

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Speaker 3: Marymount Matt. What do you think of those two.

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Speaker 1: I still don't believe Pacific is as bad as they played,

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Speaker 1: Hilaire and Eric Williams is now the new one out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are two packed fall All Conference dudes.

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Speaker 1: for UAB.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But does UA B having to host UTSA count

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Speaker 2: as having to play favorites in League Player?

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Speaker 1: They dug him for that game. They dug and baby

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Kai. I also, I have an FAU

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Speaker 2: The talent level is similar, if not tilted towards UA

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Speaker 2: B SO. I like that one, Kai, and I love Pacific.

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Speaker 2: I think they're trending up, figuring out some how a

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Speaker 2: Steve Lavan is all the way in on this team

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Speaker 2: with some of the absences, they've been really really poor.

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Speaker 2: Quick Quick gambling microcosm story for the listeners. Maybe they'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy Pacific On Saturday among the one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 2: line games. I had put a half unit on them

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Speaker 2: sure why. Oh, it's because the game was already over.

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Speaker 2: Pacific had already won. I didn't even know it had

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Speaker 2: But man, I wish I had got more on it

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Speaker 2: now in that sense.

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Speaker 3: Not having a sweat bets though it was fantastic. You

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Speaker 3: just get rid of the score bug for an entire

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Speaker 3: I think it'd be a lot bet or.

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Speaker 1: For your health, that's stress. We should only bet Hawaii

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Speaker 3: Hey, fellows, any other ads to this section? I see

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Speaker 3: a couple of years, Matt will go to your first ads.

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Speaker 1: The Milwaukee one I see listed here caught by I,

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Speaker 1: But Pacific is my only official play. Yeah, kind of

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Speaker 1: a week selection here. I just think that in general,

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Speaker 1: the a lot of these favorites early in conference play

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Speaker 1: so maybe not as as strong of an overall section portfolio.

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Speaker 2: once you hit the league play in like February, and

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Speaker 2: That might be best. But yeah, Matt, you mentioned Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: here plus seven at Cleveland State on Thursday. I'm going

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Speaker 2: kind of trending up. Matt. You remember Angelo Stewart, who's

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Speaker 2: not even rotation piece. Now they totally restructured the back court.

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Speaker 2: They just want at Detroit as a similar plus seven

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Speaker 1: I'll throw a two more kay for consideration real quick here,

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Speaker 1: sorry Portland. Portland stayed at Eastern Washington on Thursday and

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Speaker 1: Calca Fullarton at AUC Riverside probably plus seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind those Ewash by the way, just went

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Speaker 3: on the Montana road trip and swept it, swept it.

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Speaker 3: Very impressive for that's Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: They're good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, recap, I'm taking you ab Pacific. Jim is

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Speaker 3: too along with Milwaukee and matt is just on the

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Speaker 3: Pacific Tigers. So consensus Pacific. All right, let's see if

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Speaker 3: you can do it.

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Speaker 2: Be as good as Rice'll always be Rice.

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Speaker 3: Next section. Blowout City last week recap not bad. The

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Speaker 3: Big ten trio against the Swack went two and one.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State beat Alabama and m by thirty one to cover.

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Speaker 3: Perdue did not cover against four to A and N,

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Speaker 2: Yeahin Virginia did the same thing preduded. They got outside

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Speaker 3: Not great, but TCU destroyed Central Arkansas by forty something points.

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Speaker 3: job horn Frogs. This week Wednesday nothing great in my opinion. Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, green and Fort Wayne really can dominate this lesser competition.

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Speaker 2: They really really struggle to step up in class, but

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Speaker 2: It's just Green Bay really tries to shorten the game

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Speaker 2: because they have almost zero talent. I can't believe how

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Speaker 2: They two twenty third and Ken Palm his last year.

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Speaker 2: There never worse than to sixtieth and now they've been

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Speaker 3: Be careful what you wish for, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: If they were enamored by they're gets blinded by the

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Speaker 1: Now will Ryan, they're slowing it down snales.

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Speaker 3: Pace, matt Do you like that game or do you

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Speaker 3: like my other option?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 3: You masked Lowell hosting Maine. Spread's only thirteen for Kim Palm,

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Speaker 3: But boy, this loll team's a juggernaut. I could see

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Speaker 1: I could two be main just beat or sorry they

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Speaker 1: just lost to Harvard overtime. It Main's been better this

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Speaker 2: But not going to bet this.

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Speaker 1: I like betting bad teams. I don't bet against bad teams.

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Speaker 2: Not a problem with yeah it. Maine's actually been kind

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Speaker 3: Also Friday look Ahead spot, Matt, Maybe this one tickles

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Speaker 3: your fancy because you are a mac boy at heart.

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Speaker 3: Toledo minus sixteen hosting Western Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Oh this tickles me, I'll tell you that much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, you're going to take that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Toledo loves to kill bad teams. Western Michigan's terrible. Matthew,

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Speaker 1: I think I don't like rocket ships defensively enough to

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely have not been good defensively. The boy

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Stucky, and we move on power Game of

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Speaker 3: on to TCU at Baylor. Baylor minus five per Kin Pum.

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Speaker 3: The Frogs are firing an all cylinders and Baylor was

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Speaker 3: just handled pretty easily by Iowa State. Jim LJ. Cryer

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Speaker 3: Do the Bears bounce back at home against TCU?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I have some concerns about Baylor.

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Speaker 2: I just thought coming in that backcourt would flow smoothly

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Speaker 2: Iowa State, a team that was missing Jazz Coonts. I

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Speaker 2: know there was no Crier, but can't George hasn't been

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Speaker 2: the like surefire All American that we thought. And TCU's

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Speaker 2: though he's a little bit bigger. I think that's going

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Speaker 2: to be a dog fight. I would lean towards TCU Matt.

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Speaker 2: Since those first three games of the year where TCU

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Speaker 1: I would lean towards TCU as well. I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: Baylor's ball security has been an issue. Like the guards

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Speaker 3: They are off that upset loss to Rutgers Ohio States.

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Speaker 3: and the Terps or off a blowout loss, have stumbled

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a dry spell, Matt either game

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Speaker 1: No Lean at all. I know how to say Purdue.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on Marri. I actually might be a Maryland

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Speaker 1: like in the top five, top ten. Michigan's been nowhere

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Speaker 1: Still think they're good. I know we have to maybe

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Speaker 1: They're huge, they're rangey on the wing.

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Speaker 2: Omori is such a beast inside, like their their wing

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Speaker 2: core is just army of like six six two and

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Speaker 2: and that might be a little bit of a problem

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Speaker 2: Purdue backed up there last year when they lost to

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Speaker 2: by that one. Now that have to go on the

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00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: road following that loss, I think there's still gonna be

434
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of nerves being number one in the country.

435
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure Ohio State's going to be highly motivated still

436
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: seeing that number next to him, and I think we've

437
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 2: just been a little too low on the Buckeyes this year.

438
00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 2: I've been very impressed by their offense, and Olton's probably

439
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: going to have a great game plan. I'll set up

440
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 2: for that one. So I'm going to potentially be backing

441
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: the buck Eyes and riding that zero to seven ats

442
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: streak that Purdue is on.

443
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm winning buck guys as well, and I do

444
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 3: love Purdue. But yeah, Ohio State's definitely underrated. Number two

445
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: offense in the country right now.

446
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: It's no joke.

447
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 3: They can score their freshmen or awesome said Key's a

448
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: beast inside TVD. If he does that well against Zach Edie,

449
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: we'll see. That's always a challenge for anybody. Of course,

450
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm not brave like Matt. I can't fade Rutgers the rack.

451
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: You won't catch me doing it.

452
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: But we'll see the big.

453
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

454
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: Maybe what I mean if if you're given four and

455
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: a half for home, like I think you should, and

456
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: I think Rutgers is a little bit better team, maybe

457
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: it's not that big. Yeah.

458
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: Jamy r Young worries man. Maybe he's not as good

459
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: as we thought he was, might only be good against

460
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: look at his splits against good teams. I'm me were

461
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: I kind of missed that too. All right, next section. Sorry,

462
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: next section.

463
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: It is mid major game of the week. I got

464
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: two picked out here. Not a ton of great matchups,

465
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. Drake at Southern Illinois in the Missouri

466
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: Valley number two and number three per km pom in

467
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: the Valley. Although Drake is just two and two in

468
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: actual valley play, Southern Illinois is three and one. Drake

469
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: is off a tough loss to Missouri State. I watched

470
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: that entire game. It was not pretty. They missed a

471
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: lot of shots. This game is gonna be a tough

472
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: defensive battle. Jim, you lean in one way.

473
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: Or the other. Year. Well, first of all, I was

474
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: just surprised that these were two and three in the Valley.

475
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, yeah, who's one? What's going on?

476
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: Who's one?

477
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh?

478
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Bradley is a freaking pretty juggernaut on the defensive

479
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: end and have ascended to the number one team in

480
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: the conference per per ken PUM. I link towards Southern Illinois.

481
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: I think at home it's going to be a really

482
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: tough environment for them. They are, to me, the better

483
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: defensive team. I know Drake is solid on that end,

484
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: but I just haven't really been totally impressed by Drake.

485
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if we just projected improvement on a

486
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: core that's really a lot of the same guys. They've

487
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: been banged up a lot, and maybe the upside was

488
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: with Devrees, but then that takes away touches from Penn

489
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: and from some the other guys that we've been impressed

490
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: with in the past. And SIU, man, I feel like

491
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: they're they're more on a mission, Matthew and they they

492
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: have struggled against Drake in the past, and now they've

493
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: got them coming to their place. I might be a

494
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: Saluki there as a very very short home favorite.

495
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind only in the other way. I don't

496
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: really have a great reason. I thought Drake was a

497
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: better team than Missouri State. Game just like such an

498
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: ugly overall game that they just happened to come up

499
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: from the wrong side of. I'm not a huge believer

500
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: in SIU offensively. Their d is obviously legit, but I

501
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: think they can go through massive scoring drownds. I just

502
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: think Drake's the overall more balanced team despite the head scratching,

503
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, loss in Missouri State there, I think they're good.

504
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: I lit lean Drake, Missouri team Drake.

505
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention Shark. I said they'd struggled with him.

506
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: Last year. Southern Illinois lost sixty to fifty nine at

507
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: home to Drake, sixty two to sixty at Drake by two,

508
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: and then sixty five to fifty two in the tournament.

509
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: A little more decisive, but they were right there last year.

510
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake could not score against the Suria State darn

511
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: Old Brody can't jump higher than maybe inch off the ground.

512
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty concerning when you're six' ten and you

513
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: can't get over the rim to shoot the. Ball he

514
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: was blocked a good eight times trying to get the

515
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: ball back. Up it was pretty frustrating to watch as a. Drakebacker,

516
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: thursday we talked about Uab foid In. Atlantic that is

517
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: by far the best game on the slate for the

518
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: mid major. Realm So i'm gonna cheat a little bit

519
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: And i'm gonna call the wcc A Trueman. Major And

520
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: i'm gonna Say gonzaga At San francisco is Our thursday

521
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: game of the.

522
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: Week.

523
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: Here we haven't talked about The zags in a. While

524
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: they're still, good they're still, around And San francisco has

525
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: hung with him in the past Under Todd. Golden can

526
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: they hang with them again under a new, regime or

527
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 3: Is gonzaga just gonna wipe the flour with? Them?

528
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: Matt your, Thoughts, YEAH i GOT i think your loft

529
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: is going to use the same blueprint That golden used

530
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Against nzaga in prior. Years now two different. TEAMS i,

531
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: mean a ton of turnover on the don side of the,

532
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: ball so it's hard to really just roll out the

533
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: exact same blueprint that'll. Work BUT i think they have

534
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: a good beat On gonzaga. Offense they know how to stop.

535
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: It they typically eliminate. Transition there's been, laps isn't THAT

536
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: i think in some matchups that's where they've gotten letting

537
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: the zagsit like that ten to two twelve two. Run

538
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: it just kills. Him but if they can kind of get,

539
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: out come, out hit shots, early kill the, confidence get

540
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: The War memorial crowd there on their, FEET i think

541
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: they actually can keep this one close the whole.

542
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: LOT i Think kenzaga smokes. Them i'm gonna go the other.

543
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: Way this feels like the twenty twenty One San francisco

544
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: team that really didn't have. Size they're Playing Zame meeks

545
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: at center a lot and he is a shooter like

546
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: he is not a banger. Inside and that twenty twenty

547
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: One San francisco team was solid top one Hundred kenton,

548
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: team just like this. Year and they lost by thirty

549
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: nine at home To, gonzaga and that was a much

550
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Better gonzaga, team like almost generational. Offensively BUT i think

551
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: we could see them win by double digits with a

552
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: Massive Drew timmy game and overhelp because he's, dominating and

553
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: then that opens up the shooters AND Nbc gonzaga kind

554
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: of REASCENDING kai back up like they're not in the

555
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: kenpoun top ten right, now AND i think they're gonna

556
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: find their way in.

557
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: THERE i think they will. TOO i lean their way as.

558
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: Well we'll see what the actual spread comes out. TO

559
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: i still think this team is pretty darn good and

560
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: a title. Contender we'll see how they do IN wcc.

561
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: Play Trash Man pick of The, Week.

562
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: The Trash man pick of The. Week i'm the trash.

563
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: Man just throw me the, trash your, garbage and you know,

564
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: it totally, unreliable undependable in.

565
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: It that's.

566
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: It you've been told.

567
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: Off how do you like?

568
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: That. Good, WELL i chose, one. Guys it's On. Thursday

569
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: It's Long island aka l I u At Central connecticut

570
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: in the nec kempom Has Central connecticut a ten point.

571
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: Favorite it is hard to lay ten points with THE ccsu,

572
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: team BUT lu is quite. Bad this is the three

573
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty seventh best offense against the three hundred

574
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: and thirty third best. OFFENSE lu is still winless AGAINST

575
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: d one. Competition it's not gonna be a great game to.

576
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: Watch jim any side in this.

577
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: One any, Thoughts i'm close to holding the nose and

578
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: backing the. DOG lau is a little. Healthier Andre washington

579
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: point guard has played three games. Now they've Had Quion

580
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: burns And Trey wood both back coming off the bench

581
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: like they're at least. Competent maybe competent might be too strong.

582
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Back Against Sacred heart and they did not.

583
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: Cover, yeah, yeah lost by eighteen at home to a

584
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: team that. Struggled but, yeah laying ten WITH ccsu feels.

585
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: WRONG i just generally have a feeling we're going to

586
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: see a lot OF nec and the Trash man pick

587
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: of the. WEEK i tweeted this out, today but the

588
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: projections For Ken pound this is A tuesday tweet that

589
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: there's going to be a five way tie atop the

590
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: league at nine and seven and two eight and eight.

591
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: Teams that tells you how no one is a standout

592
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: like good team. HERE i think there's one team barely

593
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: inside the top three. Hundred this is like a surefire

594
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: playing game in THE ncaa, tournament no matter, what no

595
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: matter who. Wins, yeah and so at that, Point i'm

596
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: just kind of tempted to take the ten, Points, matt

597
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i don't think any of these teams are good. Favorites,

598
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: no they're.

599
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: NOT i feel like you just auto bet money lines

600
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: in this league with teams of seven points or. More

601
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: they actually compete AT lu compete With wagner for like thirty,

602
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: minutes which was very, Surprising Like wagner's maybe the second

603
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: best team in this, conference third, BEST i don't know

604
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: where you stand on again breaking any season possing kim.

605
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: Pom they're the best best. Team so, yeah not not

606
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: rageous take it, all but, yeah The Sacred heart game got.

607
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Out what that'll? Happened there did not tune. In i'm

608
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: GLAD i. DIDN'T i would TAKE lu plus Against Central

609
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: CONNETICUT i actually don't connecta like seven times this year

610
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: they've Not they've delivered for me two.

611
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: TIMES i.

612
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: THINK i don't think they're a ten point favored against.

613
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Anyone they're a whack and mole.

614
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: Team.

615
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah To jim's, point one team is in the top

616
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: three hundred and kim pom It's. Wagner they're two ninety.

617
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: Two this is the worst conference in the country per Kim,

618
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: pom ignoring The independence behind The, swack behind The South

619
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: LAND OVC. Meac it's league.

620
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: This year it might be worse than some of like

621
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: the bad. Meacs like if your champion is going to

622
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: be two hundred ninetieth in the league or in the,

623
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: country you're gonna you're automatically a thirty five point underdog

624
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: in the first round against if you if you get,

625
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: in if you win your playing game and get to

626
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: the the sixteen versus one, game it's.

627
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: Gross we move On spotlight of The. Week we're looking

628
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: at over and under. Teams are they? Sustainable why are

629
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: they this? Way why are you the way that you

630
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: are looking at overs and looking at? Unders best records

631
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: for overs is wh we're going to. Start toledo is.

632
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: The bell of the.

633
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: Ball when it comes to the over teams in the,

634
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: country they're eleven and, one a ten point cover. Margin

635
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: why is? This they play with great, pace they are

636
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: twenty second in the country in, offense and they are

637
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty eighth on. Defense that's the trifecta right.

638
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: There seems pretty sustainable to. Me we'll see if the

639
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: market can catch. UP uab is eleven and two to the.

640
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: Over this is by far the Fastest Andy kennedy has

641
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: played AT uab and they have a great. Offense navy

642
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: is eleven and. Two good, offense, yes good, offense poor,

643
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: defense very very very efficiency. Driven it's the best offense

644
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: of the ed To Cellis. Era it's the second worst

645
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: defense under him as well. Well so kind of a

646
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: perfect storm going on With navy.

647
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: There AND i don't get. It. KAI i talked to,

648
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: him AND i talked to him in the preseason and he's, Like,

649
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: yeah all our guys are on ships and. Submarines they

650
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: don't get to shoot in the off. Season how are they?

651
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Efficient and usually defense is like what's really controllable for?

652
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Them with the changing. Schemes this is stunning to. ME

653
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: i can't Believe navy is like a home run over.

654
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: Team it's seven point Cover margers as. Well and finally

655
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: last one here in this, section high point ten and

656
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: two to the. Over this one's snuck by me the

657
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: main driver. Here they're ninth in offensive possession length and

658
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: ninth and overall. Tempo the program's never been near that

659
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: from a tempo. Perspective it's taking the market by, surprise

660
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: taking me by. Surprise thus they are ten and two

661
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: to the. Over, fellas do you expect all four of

662
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: these teams to continue the way they're. Going it feels

663
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: Like navy would be the team that would go. Down

664
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: says it is efficiency, driven but who, Knows, Jim.

665
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah Maybe i'll probably be hoping to catch a falling

666
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: under knife at some point with, them but maybe that's.

667
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Unlin we'll see a high. POINT i totally. Buy they

668
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: just have like a stable of athletes and they have unleashed,

669
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: them let them run up and, down and some of

670
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: those Big south teams can be somewhat paced. TAKERS i

671
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: think they just went way over With Gardner, webb and

672
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: that's a team that is often an, undersquad but not

673
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: when they're facing high. Point SO i kind of buy

674
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: all These Matt. Toledo at some point the numbers are

675
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: going to get so ridiculous that you can't bet. Overs

676
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: but maybe that's impossible. There it's like one hundred and

677
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: sixty on The tuesday we're. Recording that's their total with Ball.

678
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: STATE i mean we could see a one hundred and

679
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: seventy total with them in the.

680
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: League, Yeah TOLEDO i think will stabilize when they Get cochran.

681
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Back he's just so important. Defensively that's been a big

682
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: reason why they've gone over while their defense has been so.

683
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: TERRIBLE i think the better and more sustainable overplays if

684
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: you want to keep riding the, Wave kyra the cover margin.

685
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: Teams you have cover.

686
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: Margin, Teams Good, Segway matthew and these are the top

687
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: teams that are basically beating the total right by how

688
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: bad are you beating the total equals cover. Margin probably

689
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: more sustainable long one long run than just. Record Houston

690
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: christian is number one in the. Country though there are

691
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: eight and three to the, over they're plus fourteen cover

692
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: margin to the. Over these guys have played a couple overtime,

693
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: games which might be skewing in a, bit but it

694
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: seems Like Houston christian's always playing in the nineties with

695
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Opponents Armazoo Tigers gym plus thirteen point six cover. Margin

696
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: we know they don't play a lot of. Defense they certainly,

697
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: run and they've been shooting really well this. Year Southern

698
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: utah plus twelve point six cover, margin those seven and

699
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: three on the, over and Finally San diego is eleven

700
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: and three to the over and twelve point two cover.

701
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: Margin The terreros are are a slam dunkover team right.

702
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Now Surprises jim any of those.

703
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: You know who doesn't surprise me As Houston. CHRISTIAN i

704
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: bet a couple unders against them early and they got

705
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: blown out of the. Water as the cover margin here,

706
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: INDICATES i just there's like no way to or it's

707
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: tough to properly capture how poor they are. Defensively teams

708
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: are making six sixty five percent of their two pointers against,

709
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: them which is three and a half percent worse than

710
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: anyone else in the. Country the best two point offense

711
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: in the country Is arizona at sixty one point six,

712
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: percent and so the team Playing Houston christian is at sixty.

713
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Five that tells you how bad it. Is very sustainable

714
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: for them and it doesn't take. Long they have the shortest.

715
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Possession like, defensively you just get a layup. Immediately that's

716
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: their whole. Style it's like A grenelle THE d three

717
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: team that just lets you run up and. Down that's

718
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: what they.

719
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Are, yeah, Terrible, Kyle. ABSOLUTELY i think the most interesting

720
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: one here Is San, diego The. Tariro's lavin's talked about

721
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: how horrible they've been. Defensively they basically played one good

722
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: defensive game all, year that's when they blew. OUT i

723
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: don't care who they blew out, then but just a

724
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: team that doesn't really feel interested in playing. DEFENSE i

725
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Think lavin's very much and like a just trying to

726
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: build AN mba model of a program with like ultra

727
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: focus on offense and then like defense is sort of

728
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: just to WHATEVER i ever. Thought SO i think that.

729
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: Continues, Actually, Yeah San diego one of the biggest lopsided.

730
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: Teams fifty seventh in, offense three hundredth in. Defense that's

731
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: a hundredth that's a lopsided squad right.

732
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: There they pack twelve athletes and they're three hundredth on.

733
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: Defense what are you? Doing not?

734
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Great steve Eleven just of, note other power teams that

735
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: are over teams to watch if you're into that sort of.

736
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 3: Thing xavier eleven three and one to the, Over West

737
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: virginia ten and four to the. Over those are your

738
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: top two power teams in that. Realm we shift now

739
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: to the under to close out the, podcast starting with best.

740
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: Records got four teams, Here merrimack one in thirteen to the.

741
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: Under oh my, god, wow minus seven cover, margin second

742
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: worst offense in the, country a top one fifty, defense

743
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: and a slow pace that equals. Unders and, Boy merrimack's

744
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: been a. JUGGERNAUT i WISH i would have predicted that

745
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: one to start the year be Rich nebraska two eleven

746
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: and one to the, under minus eight cover. Margin hoiber

747
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: has slammed the brakes on that team's tempo and they

748
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: also have a top forty, defense so doing it a

749
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: little bit from the efficiency lens as. Well Miss state

750
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: is two and eleven to the under with a ten

751
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: point cover. Margin they have the six best defense in

752
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: the country and one hundred and fortieth best offense that

753
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: is efficiency. Driven and, Finally Fresno state too and ten

754
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: to the, under though their cover margin is a bit,

755
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: low just minus four and a half or four and a,

756
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: half depending how you want to look at.

757
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: That is it?

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: Competition they have forced the second longest possessions in the,

759
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: country could be the teams they're, Playing but they do

760
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: have a top eighty defense and a two hundred and

761
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: fiftieth ranked, offense so the efficiency is not doing them

762
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: any favors as. Well, jim who sustains their? Understreak who remedies?

763
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: It what are your? THOUGHTS i Think nebraska is going

764
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: to stay under for a little. While the market's definitely

765
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: catching on with, them but it's just like a totally

766
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: different team Blueprint matt you talked about in the. Preseason

767
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: they finally brought in some real defenders Like Jowan gary

768
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: is a good, Defender Derek walker can. Defend they're playing

769
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: a six to, seven two hundred pound point guard In Sam.

770
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Grizel North Dakota state was a big like tilted to

771
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: defense team last year when he was their point. Guard

772
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense to. Me Maybe merrimack's

773
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: offense recovers a little bit like can it be this

774
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: bad all? Year now That Jordan miner's, back potentially will

775
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: see he actually helps their defense, too, Though so that's

776
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: somewhat net. Neutral the other Two Mississippi state And Presno

777
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: state bad, bad bad offenses and really good, defenses like

778
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough to find overs for. Them, YEAH

779
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: i never.

780
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: Asking i'm actually zero and two betting, unders which is really.

781
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Maddening SO i bet the only two. LOSSES i just

782
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: looked in, defense so fun stuff. There, yeah and they

783
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: brought in a vandomel who's been awesome defense but like

784
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: legit defender FROM mesm, too so that all makes. Sense

785
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: And hoiberg is like put up or shut up, year

786
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: the whole run up and DOWN nba type stuff, like,

787
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: okay it was cute for three, years it lost, badly

788
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: so he made the right. ADJUSTMENTS i think the other

789
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: three are just two obvious this, point Like Marrimack Misissippi State.

790
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: PRESIDENT i don't know if the runways there. Anymore maybe it.

791
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Is total streaks can last a lot longer than side,

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: streaks so don't be afraid To this is my, issues

793
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: LIKE i missed the boats like. That with totals you

794
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: can keep riding it for a lot.

795
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: LONGER i bet At fresno over, today SO i don't

796
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: feel wonderful.

797
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: That good luck cover margin wise for under, Teams Kent

798
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: state has the top cover margin as far as the unders.

799
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: Go they played a really ugly game With houston earlier

800
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: in the year that went way.

801
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Under that's a peak.

802
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 3: Fest they're two and nine to the under ten point

803
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: seven cover, margin and As jim mentioned on our handy

804
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: to the, outline they do Play. Toledo, eventually something's got

805
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: to give here with the with the total will be

806
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: interesting to see what they hang that. At northwestern and

807
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: The Big ten is three and ten to the under

808
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: with a minus ten and a half cover. Margin that

809
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: doesn't surprise me at. All that team cannot score and

810
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: they play, defense And, JIM i remember The auburn game

811
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: they've played in the forties.

812
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Before, yeah that feels like adjacent To. Nebraska coach knows

813
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: he's back against is against the, wall needs to kind

814
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: of over control things a little, bit generate even more

815
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: of A Big ten. Identity i'm not too shocked that

816
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: that team, with like you, said limited offensive options is an.

817
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Undersquad Miss, state who we, mentioned has the third highest

818
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: cover margin for an under. Team oh bless, You, matthew thank.

819
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: You sorry.

820
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: To get hit the mute. BUTTON i hope the. Producers

821
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: keep that in Pro i'll leave it.

822
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: Alone and then closing out power. Teams we Mentioned Mississippi,

823
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: state we Mentioned. Northwestern two other teams keep an eye

824
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: on from a from an under, Perspective Iowa state three

825
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: and ten to the under minus five cover margin maybe

826
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: not too, Surprising minnesota three and nine to the, under

827
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: but their cover margins, two which usually means they're getting

828
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: a bit lucky on that, record and maybe we'll see

829
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: some overs coming for that.

830
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: Squad who.

831
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: Knows you won't catch me betting In minnesota Over that's

832
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: ALL i can.

833
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Say, yeah they just had like the one shootout game With.

834
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: PERDUE i guess they had one With michigan, two AND

835
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: i think those were, like really flip the.

836
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Margin matt thoughts on these teams before we sign Off,

837
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: NORTHWESTERN i don't know if that's. SUSTAINABLE i think they've

838
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: just suffocated low major mid major teams like they did

839
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: this every. Year they play really well in the non

840
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: con against mediocre. Competition they're pretty good at beating up

841
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: on those teams and suffocating their. OFFENSES i don't know

842
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: if that continues In Big ten. Play uh In, Minnesota,

843
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: MAN i DON'T i will actually about their. Defense the

844
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: defense really hasn't been that. Great it's been purely a

845
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: pace issue and an offensive anemic. Issue AND i wonder

846
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: if their defense actually starts to Like northwestern give a

847
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: little bit back here at, conference but by In.

848
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: NORTHWESTERN i haven't looked at their their Kim pom stats

849
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: in a.

850
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: While ninth their d has been elite number. One look

851
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: at the competition competition.

852
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: They're allowing thirty nine percent from Two that is. Insane

853
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: talked About Houston christian earlier from from their, perspective one

854
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: team's lying sixty five, percent one team's allowing thirty.

855
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Nine that's a. Difference yeah crazy, wow and.

856
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah close to to un with an offense which really

857
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: no excuse. There they have a lot of guys back

858
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,759
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