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Speaker 1: all right, y'all, y'all know how we start off every show.

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Speaker 2: With What's up with that dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, yesterday after the show, I went to my spot,

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Speaker 1: I don't want everybody put it on blasts, but it's

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Speaker 1: my spot. We had a good lunch meeting with Whittier Trusts.

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Speaker 1: So randomly, I went to the UCLA Washington State game

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Speaker 1: a week or two ago. Shout out to Martin who

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Speaker 1: looked out for me the ad there. You guys know

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Speaker 1: my chip Kelly's story of him recruiting me to go

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Speaker 2: So a lot of love for UCLA. Plus I was.

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Speaker 1: Gonna go there out of high school. It just was

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Speaker 1: a company called Whittier Trust. Have you ever heard of them?

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Speaker 1: I didn't at the time. Turns out they manage over

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Speaker 1: people's money. You know, wealth management, all right, family trust,

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Speaker 1: family offices got all that, got all that, but two

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Speaker 1: So we talked about our future together in partnership or

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Speaker 1: So that was a great lunch meeting. After that, I

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Speaker 1: had a call with the Danny Worful. Yes, my guy

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner himself. Shout out to him, who has

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Speaker 1: a huge national award every year giving out to the

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Speaker 1: For us to do that when heismand right, y'all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Love to him, man, he's such a great soul, great dude.

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Speaker 1: But uh, it's honored to be on this committee and

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy, how that guy When I'm at Columbia.

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Speaker 1: After that, had a call with John Brinkers y'all who

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Speaker 2: Y'all know you see that Brinks TV or somewhere right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, John Brinker is our founder of Brinks TV.

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Speaker 2: So that was a good call. I'm about about to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my shirt off again and do this

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Speaker 1: this because we got some stuff to share with you guys.

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Speaker 1: The bet that I made, the bet that I placed

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Speaker 1: He always around his little son, Hart is a beast

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Speaker 1: Saw a lot of old familiar face. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 2: Let me pull my socks up right now. Cooper Cooper's

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Speaker 1: So Lebron sat out the second half of the game

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Speaker 2: So it's like, dog were good.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Lebron has been in this kind of like

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Speaker 1: It's actually having mini dots, but knowing which one to prioritize.

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Speaker 1: We were playing Sarah High School. Sarah High School out

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Speaker 1: They were just sitting there with those same jerseys, chilling,

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Speaker 2: Coach locking, locking, locking, But in the preseason you'd be like, coach,

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Speaker 2: I saw that, and I was like, I gotta get

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Speaker 1: Flex, But I remind y'all we were zero to ten,

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Speaker 1: We were down enough where I should have took off

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Speaker 2: So that flex actually occurs.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got it in the pros and the season

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Speaker 2: To Lebron's point of yeah, you want a flex like.

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Speaker 1: In it, I'm so good or I'm so like untouchable

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Speaker 1: that y'all worked for it, y'all go get that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did my dang all right, didn't I

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Speaker 2: put in my work? You go get him bored? All right?

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Speaker 1: Good stuff like you like a baby assistant coach, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's a flex. All Lebron was doing was just flex,

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Speaker 1: That I'm out here doing. So final score that Sarah game,

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Speaker 1: extra point. So what do y'all think of Lebron James's behavior,

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Speaker 1: y'all think that's a sign of a lack of respect

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Speaker 1: And these food and drink incidents Mark Sanchez one't on

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you that was commonplace. Y'all got a

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Speaker 2: Are y'all like, dog, chill, bro, you're doing too much,

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Speaker 1: Beat that up in the comments when y'all see something

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so good when you just everybody working and

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Speaker 2: Just like I was like, I'm still out there getting

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Speaker 2: whooped up on salute for the flex. Go God, God,

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Speaker 2: they setting you up. And if you have subs, you

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Speaker 2: heard this. I heard. I'm like, beg whether the baby

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Speaker 2: cartoon too? After marriage, the honey moon moved, I was like,

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Speaker 1: With a spoon spoomh Greg Nice smoothie. Oh ran into

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Speaker 1: Greg Nice one time and the party fan manned him

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Speaker 2: I was like, Greg Nice, your life's like a fairy

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Speaker 1: Orca was a great big way Yale A fan man

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Speaker 1: nice and smooth for that late eighties. They were banging

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Speaker 1: y'all remember that one. All right, y'all, y'all know this

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Speaker 2: Dot or go there. Leave the donation, support the community,

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Speaker 1: You, all right, t Yo, whoa he gonna need some support.

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Speaker 1: And he got his knee messed up a little bit

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Speaker 2: I've seen that go really foul. Right, what was my

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Speaker 2: Who end up? Didn't he run?

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Speaker 1: Into somebody with a car before and it went bad.

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Speaker 1: Something like that. Beat it up in the comments.

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Speaker 2: Let me know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this one, because I do

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Speaker 1: it happened this week and the authorities are investigating it

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Speaker 1: You see that's Terrell Owens, Sir, Terrell Owens. If you

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Speaker 2: Kept pushing, all right, so we know he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: I talked to him. He said his knees jacked up

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Speaker 1: The guy's been arrested assault with a deadly weapon. That's

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Speaker 1: charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Yeah, because cars

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Speaker 1: Once he gets fouled, he lands into another guy kind

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Speaker 2: Would never start something with a guy.

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Speaker 1: In terms of personality, I've never tells a quieter type

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Speaker 2: He just sayin't gonna start. He ain't gonna shoot first.

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Speaker 1: see you outside waiting for you outside.

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Speaker 2: Oh my heart.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no worse feeling than the anticipation of some pain.

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Speaker 1: Pain itself is fine for me. You just come up

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Speaker 2: Oh this in my head, I was like this, mama,

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Speaker 1: it's reflex calling up my cousins and my hey a calabassas, yeah, Calabasas, yeh.

436
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: All right, but I ain't doing all that. So I'm like,

437
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 2: I ain't trying to get them in trouble. I ain't

438
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: trying to have them save me, bail me out. I

439
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: ain't trying to fight with the dude. Nothing.

440
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: We just I got found full and I fell on you,

441
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: sorry or landing on you.

442
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, But you can't even say sorry in these moments

443
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: because he already woofed, so sorry he ain't even gonna work.

444
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: Soft Assen's muffu piles out and the shit I dunk

445
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: on that muffle, you know what I mean.

446
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: So it's like, ain't no punks here, but I ain't

447
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: no fools either. I ain't trying to get killed. So

448
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: you go outside. So finally to go outside, and the

449
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: dude is waiting, thankfully unarmed but with two arms ready

450
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: to what's up? What I was like, if I t

451
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like time out, not TiO time out. That was

452
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: doing time out. Hey, we ain't about to fight dog,

453
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: like shut choke set choke something dog. But nah, you

454
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: know that testoster in that competition, Oh that's Jenny juice.

455
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a mix.

456
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: It's going down and altercation out there too leaves.

457
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Dude follows t O.

458
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: T O pulls into a place where it's well lit,

459
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: and then they get out the car. This is what

460
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm gathering. You know, I've beenhit in the head a

461
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: few times and I'm like what I'm like? This is

462
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: on Netflix, Like tell you're talking about Yo. This all

463
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: happened after a basketball game.

464
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: Dude, dude tries to run over to YO because he

465
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: tried to leave and then turn around and try to

466
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: come back. This way, I'm.

467
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Gonna let Teo feel in the details, Like I really

468
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: want him to tell y'all this explicitly, because the way

469
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: he tells it is insane.

470
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: So he's gonna have his chance to say this. I

471
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: don't want to kill it.

472
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw it all out there, but

473
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: I got to give y'all the overview. And that's what happened,

474
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: and the dude ran them over and then kept it going.

475
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: And the report says he hasn't been arrested yet. But

476
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: I told Tyo, hey man, you know me, I believe

477
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: in snitching.

478
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I believe in I believe in the full extent of

479
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: the law.

480
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 1: You do something to me, Oh, I'm telling and I'm

481
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: getting you in trouble as much as possible. So you

482
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: leave me alone and it's a determent for someone else.

483
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: Now here's the problem. Her dude got history, so this

484
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: may be a real bad situation for old do not

485
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: sure about it yet, So why am I bringing this

486
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: up other than damn, t O, did you dunk on them?

487
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: What kind of banging was you doing during that game?

488
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: How many points did you have before this? But it's

489
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: really a dynamic. This is what I want to talk through.

490
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: People always walk around and give you compliments like you're

491
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: so down to earth, or oh you're so cool. Oh wow,

492
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: you're way nicer than I thought you would be. You

493
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: say that to the stars, to a t o the

494
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: people you meet. I even hear it right when you're

495
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: just being normal, people like oh my god, I can't

496
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: believe so that you know where already they're trained or

497
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: where they're coming from where they're conditioned. Now, there always

498
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: has to be interactions between celebrity and fans are just

499
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: normal people, myself included. We have to both sides. I'm

500
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: a fan. I ran up on Greg Knights, like you

501
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I get it. That's why I

502
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: believe in the coexistence. That's why the foundation probably transition

503
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: because you can't just build up this wall of Oh

504
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: my kids go to private schools and they go to

505
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: the best schools, and they got tutors and specialized trainers

506
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be perfect. They got to coexist. I

507
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: don't give it, damn what you did for your kids.

508
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go out into that world to

509
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: meet other people. So coexistence is so important. What happens

510
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: when someone who is a normal person without celebrity comes

511
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: in counter with a celebrity When there's an issue, there's

512
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: always this dynamic. Oh, I know, they got more to

513
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: the so when they got more to lose, you press

514
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: even more on them.

515
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: At them.

516
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: See it happened so many times a regular dude, nine

517
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: dudes out there balling. They just regular dudes balling. But

518
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: t O's there. So when there's an altercation when there's

519
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: an issue where they're friction all sudden, Oh to got

520
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: more to lose.

521
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: So dude, be like, what's up? And what do people

522
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: tell too? In that moment?

523
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: The first thing they gonna say, Hey, doll, chill, chill.

524
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: All he gonna do is try and sue you, bro.

525
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: All this gonna do is make news all this everybody

526
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: start reading all your receipts of all the things you've

527
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: got to lose. Dude got something to lose too, We

528
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: just may not know it. But oh that's his advantage.

529
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Nobody telling him, calming him down, nobody trying to call

530
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: his dogs off, but all mine got to back up.

531
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: I hate that dynamic.

532
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Because it's used against you all of a sudd Now

533
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: you become a prisoner of your own success.

534
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: I like the reminders they're coming from a good place, but.

535
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: I wish y'a would remind him too, Hey he I

536
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: value in this world too, and he need to chill

537
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: out too. Maybe he ain't gonna get all splattered across TMZ.

538
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: But is that the only reason you ain't gonna fight

539
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: is because a TMZ?

540
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: Are you gonna fight?

541
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: Like?

542
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: TMZ is not the issue here? Is it? Wow.

543
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: So that notoriety is used against you, and next thing,

544
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, guys flex harder on you because they know

545
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: that chances are you ain't gonna return fire because they

546
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: hear them dudes too, They hear the chatter Chill, chill,

547
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't ya.

548
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna get true. That the job of the entourage,

549
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: I guess right. So these dudes getting charged up and

550
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: they waiting, they lurk. This is the thing I've seen.

551
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: They lurk quietly to pounce on.

552
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: You and use your status against you. Happens to me

553
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: when I coach, when there's a call in my favor, Oh,

554
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: you just did that, because it's because he's Marcel Swiley.

555
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: It was the right call, or he got it wrong.

556
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: But he ain't doing for me, because you know why,

557
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: there are more calls against me than there are for me.

558
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: MJ gets flag garden almost every damn game, and I

559
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: swear I watch every video.

560
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't see no flag garden, but I don't complain.

561
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: Complaining is contagious.

562
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: But they sit there, the mother coaches when things start

563
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: going well for me, Oh, it's because he used to

564
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. But look, his assistant coach is

565
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. Of course they're gonna win. What happens when

566
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: we lose. They still got me as a coach and

567
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush as a coach. You ain't saying it did.

568
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: We're the same coaches. We lose too.

569
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: We lost two games in a row this year. Oh

570
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Marshaller's and Reggie Bush.

571
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: They be using your your success against you. So this

572
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: dynamic is real interesting because I've seen it so often.

573
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not a basketball player. I'm not a hooper,

574
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: and if I were, I'd be like pick a ball.

575
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: It ain't that contentious. But the point is, when something

576
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: goes it's amazing to see how people, especially dudes like this,

577
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: have that inner jealousy or don't know how to deal

578
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: with the fact that, Okay, you do something well. But

579
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: that ain't the problem. This is the problem they use

580
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: all they using to when he played Hall of Fame

581
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: football player against him in Calabasas playing pickup basketball, his

582
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: cat's be envious and I'm out there coaching little eight

583
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: year olds and then they throw it in my face

584
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: and then what can I do? Oh that would make

585
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: their day? To get into a fight with marcellis Whyley.

586
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what kind of dude are you? It

587
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: would not make my day to get into a fight

588
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: with any if I saw le Bron James and fought them.

589
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Wouldn't feel good about fighting Lebron James. What were fighting about?

590
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: It's so silly. So when I heard THEO story, I

591
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is deep. And I also saw

592
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: the life lesson in that, and I just want to

593
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: level it out.

594
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: One.

595
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I want celebs, the ones that do act cocky. It's

596
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: not all of them. Stop acting like that dog.

597
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: We all on this same planet spinning and granted and

598
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: trying to be winning, you know what I mean.

599
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: And y'all who ain't celebri or whatever, stop thinking all

600
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: these dudes crazy. It's just be nice, be respectful, like

601
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: you don't come in hot, don't come in like I

602
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: did to Greg nice.

603
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: It'll be all good.

604
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: But boy, whatever's going on that jealousy and that oh

605
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: he got more to lose, So I'm gonna press him.

606
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna test him because he got more to lose.

607
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: Be careful.

608
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: Some guy's got a lot to win too, and to

609
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: is a winner. So look out for that man and

610
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: see the details of this story. I left out some

611
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: key parts on purpose because it's t O's story to tell.

612
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: Hopefully he does.

613
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: That, and but he gave me permission to talk about

614
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: it because he knows I'm gonna do it the right way.

615
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: So y'all know that was a deliberate act. And in

616
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: this situation, have y'all ever been there before?

617
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: On either side?

618
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: The guy who like you know you went too far,

619
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: be real, beat it up in the comments. Let me

620
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: know you flexed on somebody because you had some inner turmoil,

621
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: little jealousy, or you just didn't like that food, as

622
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: simple as that. And how can these situations be better diffused?

623
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Because ain't no way.

624
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all right now, I am not having someone

625
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: in a gang found me or I found them. That

626
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: turns into us talking about it all gang till we

627
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: get technicals, till we get kicked out to be outside

628
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: in the parking lot to you following me somewhere else

629
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that is not happening.

630
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: Call me a punk. Yes, what's my last name in

631
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: my first name? Pump? Yeah, I'm a Pump's what's my

632
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: last name? I'm getting home to these ieddy biddies.

633
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: Hell no, it's too many foods out there, so y'all

634
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: tell me what y'all think about the whole situation. Beat

635
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: up in the comics, this is a highlight. This is

636
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Why do I always do that

637
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: curve like it ain't nothing here? And I always like

638
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: hit it like a curve hitting countless in the sixth trait,

639
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is one of my favorite songs.

640
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: Y'all ready for this. Dang dang darn darn darn darn

641
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: darn darn n dung dung dong dung y'all remember that

642
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: dug dung dun dong dung dng darnurnrn dung dang dong

643
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: du An. It funny when you do stuff like that

644
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: and your friends be looking at you like dog, it

645
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like that to me, like it sounds to

646
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: you in your head. You be like, yo, I'm naeling this,

647
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: and they be like, what are you doing? So crazy? Right?

648
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: Mamelon rona kicking flavor?

649
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: The are possibly said, yo, Latifa, we can do this,

650
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: So I Paula hit up calls and then I'm gonna

651
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Speaker 4: dog canna see already news this cause I'm in full effects.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yes, PSI come man, oh way, Rather all that.

653
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Speaker 1: Song where the raff of my madness is. Oh, that

654
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: was amazing song. Project Transition dot org, Project Transition dot org.

655
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: You put that song, all right, now, I got two

656
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: sacks for you, coach in the first quarter if you

657
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: put on that song, that song go hard. All right,

658
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Let's get into these negative nicknames and name calling, as

659
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: I say, adjectives about athletes.

660
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: Right.

661
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: There was a story out recently kind of summing up

662
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: what's going on in sports media of late. It was

663
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Speaker 1: headlined by Hugh Douglas. Respect to Hugh Douglas and his strength. Man,

664
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, he just lost his son recently, and that's

665
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: the homie right there, and he says he's done calling

666
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: NFL players quote unquote garbage.

667
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: All right.

668
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Now, that comes on the heels of Steve Smith when

669
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: he gained a lot of attention. You guys saw it

670
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: with his strong on air criticism at Jerry Judy. We

671
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: all remember that one right, called them an average wide receiver,

672
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: mentally unable to handle constructive criticism. Kept it respectful, but

673
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: kept it strong as well. Right, So Hugh Douglass comes

674
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: on the heels of that and he's like, look, I'm

675
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk about my approach to player criticism and avoid

676
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: overly personal attacks. Due to the fact that he played

677
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I've always thought this was an issue

678
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: between investment and experience with that sport, that game. If

679
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you played it, you've been a part of it. Ninety

680
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time, you're gonna respect it to

681
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: the point where you're not gonna call cats out of

682
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: their name because you respect how hard it is just

683
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: to do it. But there is one percent, and those

684
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: are the ones that are chasing the.

685
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Dollars the bag.

686
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be real in sports media, if you

687
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: I want the bag, you're gonna have to cross that line.

688
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: Right.

689
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: If you want the bag now you can get pay paid.

690
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: I got pay paid. But the bag double digit ten

691
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: plus million cats, those cats way up there, the eight

692
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: ten million whatever.

693
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: Ooh, they crossed that line.

694
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Okay, And I see some guys former players that at

695
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: times double dutch or they crossed that line because they

696
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: want that back.

697
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk through this, all right. So

698
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: he said you, Douglas was like, look, we talking about

699
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. Let's use him as an example. Here's a

700
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: quote by him.

701
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: The Jets are guilty by association when it comes to

702
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, Now, what was it. A couple of weeks ago,

703
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: he had one of the best QBR ratings that he's

704
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: ever had. He was talking about the fact that people

705
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: will call Jack Wilson garbage.

706
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: One of the actual announcers.

707
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Joe Giglio Digitalo, sorry if I messed up your name,

708
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: he said, he's terrible, and then you Ugglas is like responding, like,

709
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: dog dude just had an amazing game a couple weeks ago.

710
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: Terrible, Terrible doesn't have amazing games. You can see the

711
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: Tug Award that they have right here. Here's the last

712
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: quote before we really get into this.

713
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: He says, I didn't want to say that he's terrible

714
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: because the one thing that I'm trying not to do

715
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: because I see a lot of my contemporaries doing that. Now,

716
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to use those words like garbage and

717
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: like certain things like that, because it does take a

718
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: lot to get to this level of play, at this level, right.

719
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: So let's be real about this topic. This topic is

720
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: about how do you.

721
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Portray, how do you actually explain communicate properly someone who

722
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: is playing bad? Like playing bad, you can't just say

723
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: that because one that ain't gonna move the needle. Oh,

724
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: he's playing bad? How is he playing back? Why is

725
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: he playing bad? Sum up his performance? And that's when

726
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 1: you start to see guys cross that line. You see

727
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of guys hub even Hugh Douglas said, a

728
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of contemporaries, and then you see some guys cross

729
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: the line.

730
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Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy how this world works.

731
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Speaker 1: Synchronicity. I believe big time in synchronicity. So yesterday morning,

732
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I get a text from my boy Francis Powers shout

733
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: out to Franny Pu he went to Columbia with me

734
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: as well, La Cat, what's up?

735
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: And he sent me a clip.

736
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Speaker 1: And this clip is a decade plus old of Skip Bayless,

737
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: Rob Parker, Jay Crawford and yours truly talking about this

738
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: same subject.

739
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: So I won't hold y'all ahead longer.

740
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all hear me years ago, a decade

741
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: plus ago, and Skip Bayless on this topic. Let's go

742
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: tell Skip and our audience at home your problem with

743
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: using nicknames for pro athletes. Yeah, I mean, if I

744
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: had a DeLorean, I would use it to go back

745
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: to the future with just one day to.

746
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Be here with you and Jalen.

747
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Just to really talk about when you talk about athletes

748
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: outside their names, I think that's out of bounds when

749
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: you think about it, in the sense of you're not

750
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: talking about the act, the excess and o's of that

751
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: guy's production. You're talking about the actor. And that's a problem,

752
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I think because in sports. To play sports, I played

753
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: ten years in NFL, you have to have a discipline

754
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: to even make it to that level or to excel

755
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: within the NFL. And now I've made the transition. I've

756
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: been with ESPN going on five years, and I've been

757
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: desensitized a little to it in the sense of all

758
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the color analysts and all the things we say about

759
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: athletes in the sense of, Okay, to make a story.

760
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: That much more believable, or to make.

761
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: A story that much more exciting, I have to take

762
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: another step. But I think we're out of bounds to

763
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: the point now that I'm looking at it and realizing,

764
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: where's the discipline in journalism? The same discipline as we

765
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: make a translation of the game that we're all covering,

766
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I think we should use some of those elements in

767
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: how we actually cover that same game.

768
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: What is out of bounds to someone.

769
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: We were talking about it off air, and I think

770
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: right now, the best analogy for me is there's a

771
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: speed limit and we're one mile per hour over the

772
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: speed limit and sometimes even.

773
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: Further and maybe when you're one mile over.

774
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: The speed limit, no one can notice it, but you're

775
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: still breaking the rules. And right now, I think when

776
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: you guys up here, because I never do it, I

777
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: don't try and get into the name calling. I know

778
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: it's fun, I know it's easy. I know it's a

779
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: slippery slope. But at the same time, when it gets

780
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: to the point where now the x's and those turns

781
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: into the eyes and use that's someone I have a problem.

782
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Speaker 3: Well, I there's a big difference between using nicknames in

783
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: name calling. I never name call. I've never insulted anyone

784
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: personally about their appear. Are there background or taking some

785
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: personal cheap shot at people? The nicknames are scathingly accurate

786
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: depictions of their performance. They say a million words with

787
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: one word, that's what's happening according.

788
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Speaker 2: To who those kids. Well, I'm just telling I'm the

789
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: regulator of that. It's a subjective experience.

790
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Speaker 1: It's a subjective experience, and that's the difference between being

791
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: a translator of the game, which I thought we were

792
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be, versus being one who portrays the game,

793
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: who adds drama to it, and then all of a

794
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: sudden the depiction gets exaggerated.

795
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: Okay, wait a second, Bosh Spice is an accurate portrayal

796
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: of how he played or didn't play last year. He

797
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: played small, he shrank under the new glare of the

798
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: spotlight in Miami. Team obliterator terall Owens was an accurate

799
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: depiction of how he wrecked not one or two, but

800
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: three teams. He was team obliterator, me, myself and Iverson.

801
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: That's how he played. It was all about Allan wherever

802
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: he was. Kyle, I should have been a bowler. Now

803
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: that's a tough one. That's a tough shot, but it's

804
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: the truth, because he was way overrated as a top

805
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: tick in the NFL draft.

806
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: But isn't that name calling? Yeah? No, I mean it

807
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: seems like yesterday.

808
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: Damn I sound the same in terms of what I'm

809
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: talking about. Man, I should have reminded myself a long

810
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: time ago that I'm meet Okay, I've never been a

811
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: fan of color commentary going that far for entertainment purposes.

812
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of it doesn't mean I'm right.

813
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I've never been a fan of it.

814
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: But I knew not being a fan of that was

815
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: not going to help me have any of the wind

816
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: in my sales.

817
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: It was gonna actually be a.

818
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Headwind because I saw it clearly in the culture, saw

819
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: it clearly how they were rewarding the cast that did that.

820
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Remember at that time, first take, I'm going on that show,

821
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: and Skip Bayley this is the man, and Skip Bayless

822
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: had all those nicknames for all those cats, and if

823
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: you listen to him at the end, started to wiggle

824
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, He started to wiggle, because let's

825
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: be real. If you're gonna be real enough to call

826
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: somebody a nickname and stand on it, then also be

827
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: real enough to say them nicknames out of bounds.

828
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: But I like going out of bounds. You know.

829
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Sorry, that ain't how the game supposed to be played.

830
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: But what does that mean supposed to be played? There

831
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: are business models, these are entertainment products. These are entertainment platforms.

832
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna go there, my only thing is

833
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: they go there and then they act like they ain't

834
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: going anywhere.

835
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you called the dude, sorry, and you got

836
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: them out of his name.

837
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: You got Russell Westbrook being known more as west Brick

838
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: rather than mister triple Double. He easy could have been

839
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: known as mister triple double, endorsements, all this stuff, but

840
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: you got him known as west Brick and he's a

841
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. But two hundred million dollar contracts

842
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: and that's a brick.

843
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: Damn. What do you get if you make shots? You

844
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like it's crazy.

845
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: So I'm seeing it clearly because me, I always try

846
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: to look at things from the other side of the

847
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: table before I look at it from my perspective. Why

848
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: I ain't know what I'm thinking? All right, No, alright,

849
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: know me? But what y'all doing over there? And I

850
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: remember looking around and there are some habitual linesteppers out there,

851
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: but all the top dogs do that. All the top

852
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: dogs are colorful like that, right, skip Stephen A Colin,

853
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Jim Rome. And then there's like a Dan Patrick and

854
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: Pat mcafeel who's like up there in terms of top dogs.

855
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: But they don't do that. And y'all correct me if

856
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I just don't see them doing that. There

857
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: was a time where Steve and they was saying the N.

858
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: Word on ESPN. Have y'all seen them clips.

859
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: There's a time where all these guys got nicknames and

860
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: you just, oh, I don't want to hear it. And

861
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, it's literally like your face,

862
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: like me growing up that side of the street.

863
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: They cripping over there, they blood. You know, I lived in.

864
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: A crip neighborhood, but I got I practice in the

865
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: blood neighborhood. Track practice Dorsey right there in the jungles.

866
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got problems, Okay, Then okay, my cousins

867
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Speaker 1: want to come, my uncles want to come, like okay,

868
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: Then we got games in Inglewood. So it's like all

869
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: this choice, Like I've always lived a life, it seemed like,

870
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: with these binary choices, and I've never choose like I'm

871
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: gonna do me and that always comes at a cost.

872
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: At a price.

873
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: You'll imagine knowing that you have the capabilities to do

874
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: something but you won't do it, and then seeing those

875
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: who do it get rewarded more than you.

876
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: It can make you mad. Didn't make me mad, know what.

877
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: It made me realize.

878
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: There gotta be a different way. I didn't get mad

879
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: at Cripson bloods.

880
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: I was just like, it gotta be a different way.

881
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't get mad at you doing something and it's

882
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: working for you or it's not working for you, because

883
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm in my lane, and my lane was ten years

884
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: plus ago saying it that way and still to this

885
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: day saying it this way. However, I also knew that

886
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: means you see that mountain top up there, this game

887
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: ain't for you. It's almost like being a football player,

888
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: but you don't like contact. Dion and Dion like Dion

889
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: had a narrative. He didn't, but I've seen too many

890
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: players Dion sticking it in there.

891
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Now.

892
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: He won't to like that, but he's smart. But football

893
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. If you play and you don't want

894
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: to get hit, don't go with narratives. I'm talking about

895
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: for real. You know, basketball gonna be tough if you

896
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: don't like to hustle, you know what I mean. It's

897
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, you know, and sports media is tough

898
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go there on somebody.

899
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

900
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: It's like this incentive and nobody tells you to do it.

901
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: Jay Crawford is a great example that dude was nicer

902
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: than nice. Skip Bennis is really nice in real life too,

903
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: but on air he got that persona. But in real

904
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: life he's super cool. But Jay was super cool on

905
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: air too, and he had a great career. But you

906
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: can't be that top dog and he was a moderator,

907
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: different role, but you can't be that top dog less

908
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: you go there. And that's what got Rob Parker in trouble. Remember,

909
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: even though that was kind of weak the whole, like

910
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: what do you call RG three cornbread brother, he must

911
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: have had other strikes because I was like, that's it,

912
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: but I remember that was a firestorm. But that was

913
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: also him trying to go there because Rob Parker was

914
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: part of the rotation. See what I'm saying, everybody, you

915
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: see everybody do it. You see everybody just get their shot.

916
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark when he went a tour, everybody get they

917
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: shot off to just see because they know that's where

918
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: the bag at. And then if they don't, oh damn it,

919
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: or theyd be like ah, that ain't feel good, or

920
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, somebody check them, like two of them, like

921
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: hey dog, respect, it's a real game out there. Just

922
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: want you guys to see behind the curtain, what's really

923
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: going on when you see these shows, you see these cats,

924
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: and you see they doing it, just know that ching

925
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: ching is at the end of doing that, because that's

926
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: the economic model, that's the platform, that's what's being supported

927
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: and rewarded. So I'm not a fan of it. I'm

928
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: in a different scope. And there are a lot of

929
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: guys like me. You Douglas sounds like another one, And

930
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys not like me. And

931
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm not judging them, not mad at them. You go

932
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: ahead and crip, you go ahead and blood, I'll go

933
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: ahead and do it this way. So y'all tell me

934
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: in the comments. How should sports analysts and media personalities balance.

935
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: It's a balance, right, you can't Hey, he's not performing

936
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: that well what do you think? Really?

937
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: What did you just say? Like, you can't go up

938
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: there doing that. But it's a balance. But also you

939
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: can't go frist mother. I swear if I ever see

940
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: him throw another he's a sorry. He can't play for

941
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: he never gonna be great. I mean, how many snaps

942
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: have you ever had?

943
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like you'd be like that.

944
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: It's a balancing act though, so honest criticism with the

945
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: responsibility of not being two personal or that crazy explicit language. Right,

946
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: how do you do that? Tell me how y'all think

947
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: it should go? And what impact do strong criticisms, even

948
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and Jerry Judy, etc. What do you

949
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: think that has in terms of impact on the athlete,

950
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the perception of the athlete, how the

951
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: athlete takes it and public perception as well, you as

952
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the fan, what do you think of there? And for real,

953
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: are y'all okay with a harsh ass texts like you

954
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: can't have a great player without having.

955
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: A bum sorry, garbage, trash, whatever. And I don't even

956
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: have an issue with the words as much as what

957
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: you mean by the words.

958
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: It's it's like we're because it's really I'm not a

959
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: sensitive god, but like dog, don't call somebody out. I

960
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: think it's more like it's mislabeled for me. The words

961
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: apply to some cats, but usually those cats. We don't

962
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: talk about the sorriest players in sports.

963
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: We don't talk.

964
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: About why because they not even good enough to play,

965
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: And if they are good enough to play, they ain't

966
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: that sorry. But even if they go out there and

967
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: mess up. Come on like the Dak Prescott. He's my

968
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: last example. As much as y'all want to say about Dak,

969
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: I could write two turn papers on Dak. One that

970
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: puts him in great company as one of the best

971
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks up to his year in the NFL in NFL history,

972
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: win percentage and things like that.

973
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Right, I could put Dak in a good conversation.

974
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: Then I could put Dak in a bad conversation the

975
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't won enough in the playoffs and

976
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't got his team over the hump.

977
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: But that's the beauty.

978
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: Every single player in the NFL always got a scout

979
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: and record two sided. This side pros, this side cons

980
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: this side strengths, this side weaknesses. So I'm not mad,

981
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: but there is a balance in act, and it just

982
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: seems like sometimes all they want to read are the

983
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: weaknesses for some and then for others that they like strengths.

984
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: So tell me how to beat that up. In the

985
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: There is there room for harsh takes, y'all, like harsh

986
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: takes on athletes. Hey, the cost of praise is criticism,

987
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: So tell me what y'all think about that.

988
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: Taking my time, taking my time, taking my time. Can

989
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: I do it? Can I do it? Can I do it?

990
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Dam what's up? Damn? I'm dark? I getting the light.

991
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: Oh love to you guys. Why Wi'sday? Whyley Wi'sday? Whyley? Whi'sday? Dogs?

992
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Speaker 2: And how hard it's time to gamble? Damn it.

993
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: I ain't never been this happy. I need to gamble more.

994
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: I am geeked up.

995
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: It is time for Wiley Wednesday.

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1003
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, the game is this.

1004
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it simple at first and see how

1005
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: y'all are, because one thing I learned is there's a

1006
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: wisdom of the crowd.

1007
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: Right.

1008
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: None of us is as smart as all of us.

1009
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: And I think I'm really smart in football. Experience tells

1010
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: me I probably am, but I don't know y'all I

1011
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: don't know what y'all up to out there, but I'm

1012
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: still up for the challenge.

1013
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: And here's the challenge.

1014
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Once you go to waliwins dot com and you go

1015
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: through this week of games NFL Week seven for games,

1016
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Speaker 1: I'm picking the money lines. I am picking who's gonna

1017
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: win these games, straight up, homie, like we did it

1018
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: in the league on the field.

1019
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: Straight up, homie, straight up. We are going to compete. Now.

1020
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: If you pick more winners than me, I'm gonna look

1021
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: you up with a brick dog. Remember this. We was

1022
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: there when they were like this got them bricks. Oh,

1023
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: y'all love with some stacks. I'm gonna give you a book.

1024
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you a book and I throw one of

1025
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: these in there.

1026
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: That's me. Oh, I'm sorry, this is me. Look at

1027
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: that guy. I love that guy. Look at that guy.

1028
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: That guy. All right, you're ready to compete. I'm stalling.

1029
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm only stalling getting choked up because I'm scared because

1030
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I've had some experiences with gambling before that.

1031
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 2: Uh, that just got me to a great place. Let's

1032
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: just say that.

1033
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: Shout out to Panama, Shout out to Vegas, Shout out

1034
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: to uh Barbae. Let me stop shout out to WILEI

1035
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Speaker 1: wins dot com. All right, first game, we're gonna pick.

1036
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through this. I ain't gonna take forever.

1037
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: I when they be giving you that little blurb and stuff,

1038
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: shut up, man. You you made me wait through all that.

1039
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: You picked all them teams, and you were wrong, and

1040
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: you gave me a blurb. That blurb didn't matter.

1041
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna go first, Jacksonville versus New Orleans.

1042
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow's game, Thursday night football taking Jacksonville.

1043
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 2: Who y'all got? Okay? Then next game Atlanta, Tampa Bay

1044
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: got Atlanta? What say something?

1045
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: Next Raiders, Bears got the Raiders. Don't ask me why,

1046
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: just I know winners. Cleveland, Indy.

1047
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: I got Cleveland. Boom boom boom bo, Detroit Baltimore. I'm

1048
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: going with the look.

1049
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I ain't picking all the favorite season. Buffalo Patriots. I

1050
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: think we all in agreement. Buffalo Commanders, Giants, g men,

1051
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: you ain't think that. Cardinals, Seahawks. Oh they both birds, Seahawks,

1052
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: the bird that's wet, the rainy bird.

1053
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: All right, Steelers, Rams damn go Rams.

1054
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I got the Rams. Chargers, Chiefs.

1055
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: Let me just do that. Let me play it all

1056
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: through the National anth and the whole after trues. Damn it.

1057
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose to the chief We just lost to

1058
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Were donnea gave away three games. We gave

1059
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: away the Dolphins game. We gave away the Cowboys game.

1060
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: We gonna we're gonna lose its Chiefs, probably Packers, Broncos.

1061
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: Get it to me, baby, give it to me, baby.

1062
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: I got those Packers, Dolphins, Eagles. Oh, that gonna be

1063
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: a good game, boy, Google game that Sunday night football.

1064
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: Golly, I'm gonna have to have me a little.

1065
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Little get together, a little pick aball social for that

1066
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins Eagles. I got the Dolphins and last one forty

1067
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: nine Ers, Vikings, ah, forty Niners. Place your bets wileiwins

1068
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Speaker 1: dot com. See if you beat me, get more right

1069
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: then me.

1070
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: If you do, you get who you get this, you

1071
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: get that, good luck to you. Guarantee you you won't

1072
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: beat me.

1073
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: Why, I'm just cocky like that, And cocky is something

1074
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: that I just can't help. All right, y'all. Now, let's

1075
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: fuck up some comments. Let's fuck up some comments. Yeah,

1076
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that up back there because looks nice,

1077
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: doesn't it?

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1079
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's start off with Pat mcafeel. I don't

1080
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: think Patt is changing what others always wanted to say.

1081
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: It is instead showing bosses that allowing others to say

1082
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: what they always wanted to say could be beneficial. That

1083
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: was a great point, like it's opening up the minds

1084
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: of the bosses, and the talent's been sitting there all

1085
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: along saying, y'all ain't gonna like this or reward this,

1086
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: so I ain't gonna go there.

1087
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 2: What we were talking about before with name calling.

1088
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: But now since y'all, oh, y'all paying y'all given eighty

1089
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: five million for somebody wearing a tank top sit and

1090
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: saying that boss, let go Greenberg too, let it go.

1091
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: It looks fake now because we are not used to it.

1092
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Not because these folks are being themselves, but I'm sure

1093
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: some will not be themselves because of corporate or internal

1094
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: pressure is going forward. Yep, you know what it is,

1095
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: riding dirty Marcellus. Everything is in constant random motion. Some

1096
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: people get caught, some don't. It's that simple. Also, bad

1097
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: energy breeds bad energy. He was speeding and wow, what

1098
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: a surprise. He got a bigger charge. How is your driving?

1099
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: You throwing bad energy out there? One thing about me, man,

1100
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. You're gonna make me cry

1101
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't throw bad energy out there.

1102
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: I really don't. And if somebody says I do, I'm sorry.

1103
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: Big enough man say I'm sorry. I never try to

1104
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: throw bad jury. I will respond, do not trip. I'm

1105
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: like to, I ain't starting none. I will finish everything

1106
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: you flex I got next. One thing about me, This

1107
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: is why I didn't gang bang. Growing up, people are

1108
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: always like, how you really navigating in theom simple? I

1109
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: am an all in type of dude, and I know

1110
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: if I were all in on a gang, I would

1111
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: have been all in.

1112
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm not scared like that.

1113
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: Like even if I were twisted enough to be in

1114
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: a gang, hurt enough to be in a gang, I

1115
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: would have did whatever need was necessary, whatever whatever. That's

1116
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: why I enjoyed it, because I knew I was crazy.

1117
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: All right, damnsel you got me over here feeling like

1118
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: a deadbeat daddy. I ain't mean it like that, but

1119
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of parents acting like, oh, we're good,

1120
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: your kids ain't good.

1121
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: If y'all ain't together, start there.

1122
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Your kids are hurting, now, address their pain and stop

1123
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: thinking you're stop thinking you're the victim, and look at

1124
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: them as the victim they are they really are. I

1125
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: don't care if nobody else tells you I did. Kids

1126
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: over there suffering.

1127
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: You know, my kids can't go to the bath, They

1128
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: can't take a bath.

1129
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: Their baths take up like thirty minutes to an hour

1130
00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: without nineteen different catastrophes and issues happening. Water everywhere, toys everywhere, Uh,

1131
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: playing with the razor that my wife had, Like just

1132
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: what that.

1133
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: Shampoo? All the windows and you ain't there? Oh?

1134
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: Everything the same, everything, good everything, man, Stop Marcel's Wiley

1135
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: giving some real family therapy, educational and enlightening.

1136
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for real. Look, I'm talking from my pain.

1137
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: I ain't talking like out of out of the side

1138
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: of my book, out of the side of my mouth,

1139
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: like I'm talking straight at you because I straight felt

1140
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: this before my oldest You know how many moments I

1141
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: missed with her.

1142
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: For real? Like for real?

1143
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: And you don't get them back, don't we don't we

1144
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: realize that the older we get It's all about just

1145
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: these connections in these moments.

1146
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: It's that's it. It's like it's like life is just

1147
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: like memories, and you need enough money to have memories.

1148
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 2: That's it.

1149
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: That's like eminem's as Shannon Sharp told me on the

1150
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: football field when he was he was blocking me in

1151
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: different he was like, boy, you need to stop tripping.

1152
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: It's all about what's that money and memories?

1153
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, pretty good.

1154
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: I think Pat McAfee is going to be the Golden

1155
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: State Warriors of ESPN. Meani just how most teams in

1156
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: the NBA are trying to play like Golden State. Most

1157
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: of them can't do it. Ah, The teams that stick

1158
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: to what they do well and their identity will have success. Nuggets, Lakers,

1159
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: heat Bucks, and of course the Warriors. Marcus p Sixteen

1160
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: to twenty.

1161
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: I like that. Oh that's dope. Yeah, you're right. You go. Look,

1162
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna create grimlins wherever you go.

1163
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: If you have success, success but gets success, right, you're

1164
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna create any bitty.

1165
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: Grimlins just the way it goes.

1166
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, y'all know all we finish every show,

1167
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: we finish it with a wily ism.

1168
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, brought to you by bet us.

1169
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Let's go all right, don't cheat on someone you don't

1170
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: want to lose with someone you don't want to keep.

1171
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say yesterday, and I

1172
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: found it.

1173
00:59:54,600 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: Man, have you cheated before I know? I have? Oh?

1174
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: No, Man, shoot, I grew up seeing cheating, so I

1175
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: was like, man, oh that's cheating. When I did it,

1176
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I was raised that way. I

1177
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: was trained that way. Everybody I saw it was just

1178
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: getting it in.

1179
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: YO. Know, it's so funny.

1180
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: My mama had me at nineteen, my dad. My MoMA

1181
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: had me at nineteen, my sister at seventeen. And so

1182
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: when I was eight years old, I remember like playing

1183
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Pop Warner and I missed my birthday. My mama had

1184
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: a surprise birthday for me one time at Inglewood at

1185
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: Darby Park, but I missed it because somehow I got

1186
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: sick or something. I wanted to come home and my daddy,

1187
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: and back then we didn't have cell phone, so my

1188
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: daddy brought me home. Mama didn't communicate with daddy and

1189
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: he like, what, I ain't know you was going you

1190
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: surprising me too. I didn't know, but I remember I

1191
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: was eight my mama because it wasn't even her birthday yet.

1192
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: Or maybe she was twenty seven, twenty six. Me looking

1193
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: at that now, I'm like, I was an eight year

1194
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: old with a mind in life, and I was judgmentdle

1195
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: of my mama, my mother, she was twenty six, twenty

1196
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 2: seven yeah uh Lee.

1197
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: And then you look back at your childhood and some

1198
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: of those decisions, like I don't know if you had

1199
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: young parents, but I did. I was like, got dang,

1200
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: y'all tripping, Mama drinking, i'm'a be quiet. I'm trying to read,

1201
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: Mama loud. I'm like, I'm trying to read. I'm reading

1202
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: Mama loud, Mamma getting a drink. Daddy just doing bills

1203
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: and crankling newspapers and not paying attention, and the TV

1204
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: owned and Eddie Murphy delirious. I'm like, we ain't got

1205
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: no library, no study, no office. Everything said, I heard everything.

1206
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, dang, but I bring this up.

1207
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: Because they stayed together no matter what they went through.

1208
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: And I trip out when I see cats get divorced.

1209
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm at the divorce age now forty eight

1210
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: or shit. My two best friends divorce and my other

1211
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: one he ain't and he ain't gonna ever get divorced,

1212
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: and me, I ain't getting divorced. My wife might leave me,

1213
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: but I ain't get divorced. I'm Jada then I'm Jada Pinkett. Baby,

1214
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna nowhere, I ain't get divorce. I'll here

1215
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: for the teddy biddies now, all right. So the funniest

1216
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: thing is I've seen cats get caught up and they

1217
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: cheat on someone they don't want to lose, end up

1218
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: being hitting in them streets.

1219
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: With something they don't want to keep. Ye ain't it funny? Instagram?

1220
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: You like godly, that curly sit, I don't know what

1221
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: it's called, curly hairs, all of them and curly. Each

1222
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: time me say curly, I'm like, I'll be like, oh,

1223
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: don't do it to me with Zuckerberg, my finger, me moving.

1224
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Slom like the sucker fern. Don't do it. He know

1225
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: it too. My wife no, baby, yeah, Leeve, Like, but

1226
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: are you serious? Like for real?

1227
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's booble, that's that's future, that's wife.

1228
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: He no, So don't get caught up, like keep keep

1229
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: the singer moving food because that ain't what I want

1230
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: to keep. And my wife is not what I want

1231
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: to lose. So that's the only thing. Ain't no other reason,

1232
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: trust me. She fine, it ain't none, no, no, But don't

1233
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: cheat on someone you don't want to lose, with someone

1234
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: you don't want to keep.

1235
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Remind yourself, remind others.

1236
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: It's okay to look at it like god, dang, Okay, okay,

1237
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm good. My daddy was the king of Look at

1238
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: my daddy.

1239
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: He trained me. I was like, Daddy, we're going tomorrow.

1240
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: He'd be like, yeah, that's really good. Yeah, I like

1241
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: that jersey how much?

1242
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: Say oh, that's too much, boy, Daddy the jersey over here,

1243
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: that's sucking.

1244
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: Daddy was my daddy head. He was young. It was

1245
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: thirty three, my daddy thirty three. Well I'm eight or something.

1246
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

1247
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: So make sure I remind everybody out there. Don't treat

1248
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: on someone you don't want to lose, with someone you

1249
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: don't want to keep.

1250
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: That's dope right there. All right, y'all. That'll do it.

1251
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: For more to it, check the show notes for all

1252
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today.

1253
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: Want to keep the conversation, go on, let's talk.

1254
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: Find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley More Too

1255
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick,

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01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: Marcel's Whially, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. Thanks for all

1258
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: the love, rates, and subscriptions and reviews, membership to Wiley's

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01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: World on YouTube. Keep it coming because there's more coming

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Speaker 1: from more to It. Talk to y'all, Hellison