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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and get Taking, and he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Strong and Not live from Studio C.

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Speaker 2: We're Armstrong in Getty. We've taken the day off. We're

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Speaker 2: just exhausted. Yes, but you can enjoy this.

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Speaker 3: Incredibly carefully prepared Armstrong and Getty replay. Hours minutes of

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Speaker 3: effort went into distilling the show to its fine assessence.

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Speaker 2: It's very so, it's okay, So sit back and enjoy.

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Speaker 2: And Armstrong and Getty replay bought him the butto bike,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna become bike riding guy.

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Speaker 3: See one of those guys where is a skin tight

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not. I'm not, actually, but I pictured you.

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Speaker 3: More shirtless, over tenned, messy, probably stolen bike down right,

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Speaker 3: You're going like tour riding a kid's bike. I'm somewhere

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Speaker 3: not a child's bike. I took out of someone's backyard.

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Speaker 3: The suburban gentleman look exactly why not. We were talking

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Speaker 3: yesterday about an absolutely blockbuster report in the Hill about

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Speaker 3: how vast majorities of college kids don't believe the garbage

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Speaker 3: That is one of the more important things for people

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Speaker 3: to know that I can remember. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: important information. Yeah, and we hammered.

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Speaker 2: This pretty good yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But seventy eight percent of students told us a self

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Speaker 3: censor on their belief sound surrounding gender identity, seventy two

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Speaker 3: percent on politics in general, sixty eight percent on family values.

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Speaker 3: They value what are traditionally known as family values, but

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Speaker 3: they dare not speak it on college campus, and more

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Speaker 3: than eighty percent so they'd submitted classwork that represented their

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Speaker 3: views in order to align with professors. You give them

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Speaker 3: And we are on the cusp. I think of a

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Speaker 3: at colleges. It's not education at all, it's indoctrination. But

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: The important thing to me, though, is just realizing that

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Speaker 2: I don't know about all, but so many people are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of keeping your mouth shut if you think most

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Speaker 3: find so interesting that you because everybody around you is silent,

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Speaker 2: But no, you're all sitting there thinking the same thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how many times, probably everybody's had

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Speaker 3: this situation where that is going on, and somebody says,

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Speaker 3: crazy thing, you know, to if you find yourself in

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, eighty five percent of the

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Speaker 3: That's what propaganda is. Sure, and telling everybody, including the

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Speaker 3: Well that's why eighty percent of the kids submitted work

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's you know, that's indoctrination, especially of youth,

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Speaker 3: Morgad News, and if San Francisco's doing it, it's gonna spread.

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Speaker 3: San Francisco has embraced a new tool to clear homeless camps.

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Speaker 3: I've noticed city officials pointing to cleaner streets. Is evidence

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Speaker 3: that more active approach is working. I feel like my

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Speaker 3: On the East coast, San Francisco is a complete If

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Speaker 3: Indeed, between July of last year and July of this year,

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Speaker 3: That's over ten times the number of arrests during the

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Speaker 3: Last time I was in downtown San Francisco. I saw

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Speaker 3: Of course, the activists say, you're merely shifting the homeless

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Speaker 3: Ups of them need to shdrug addicts. Yeah, yeah, shut up.

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Speaker 3: So San Francisco is doing a good job. It is possible,

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Speaker 3: Once seen as a model of progressive drug policy, San

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Speaker 3: I get the clean needles thing, I get the impulse there.

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Speaker 3: In fact, this Gal, who's the executive director of the

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Speaker 3: It has become an alternative to getting off of drugs.

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Speaker 2: What percentage? So I'm I'm not a big financed by you,

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Speaker 3: Don't want to get focused on the bad news. Want

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Speaker 3: in places like San Francisco. Different topic, but kind of

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Speaker 3: Three prominent medical centers in California recently announced they would

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of real madness being rolled back.

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Speaker 2: Good progress domestically. Love it. Let's not focus on the

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah, your show, podcasts, and

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Speaker 3: So my sweetheart Judy and I spent eight days in

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Speaker 3: London and had an absolutely wonderful time. I loved England

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Speaker 2: You're not quote unquote drinking.

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Speaker 3: You just have a beer because it's nice and it

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Speaker 3: How did we develop our attitude we have in the

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Speaker 3: United States over the years, Because I remember when I

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Speaker 3: the Europeans have what I would call a very European

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Speaker 3: you kidding?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I think this is somewhat self explanatory. A woman trying

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Speaker 4: We had met up because I was going to sell

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Speaker 4: And I didn't feel comfortable with that. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: don't care. I'm not wearing them. You know, they're just

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Speaker 4: stinky old sneakers. But people like weird things. And I

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Speaker 2: He did a three.

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Speaker 4: Point turn and actually hit me with a car ran

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Speaker 4: foot fetishes. Nobody has ever done anything to this caliber.

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Speaker 2: A lot of questions here, y go ahead, this start.

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Speaker 3: Oh geez, Now, maybe she has some of those, because

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Speaker 3: it's a thing, and people buy and sell them online

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Speaker 3: she was offered money so the dude could smell her

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Speaker 2: Well, well I'm here, you mind if I just like

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Speaker 3: Well see exactly, You know, my dear, it strikes me,

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Speaker 3: as we're conversing here in this parking garage that it

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Speaker 3: your very feet are there at the end of your legs.

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Speaker 3: So perhaps I could, well, I don't know, sniff on

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Speaker 3: that is a bridge too far. I will sell you

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Speaker 3: my stinky ass snakers, but you'll not be sniffing on

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Speaker 3: my tutsis. So he says, well, fine, then let's agree

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Speaker 3: does a three point turn. Yes, not a U turn,

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Speaker 2: Something tells me it was a glancing blow.

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Speaker 3: But a guy who was charged with aggravated battery, which

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Speaker 3: incidents involving the same modus operandi. So he buys you

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Speaker 2: Whoa, I'm here's eliminate the middleman, right an aggressive scent? U?

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Speaker 2: What is the up charge for the the foot sniffing?

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Speaker 3: So your belief is that she knew exactly why he

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Speaker 3: If you want to enjoy my soiled garments and are

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Speaker 3: As usual in modern crappy crappy journalism, some of the

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Speaker 3: used snakers. Okay, let's start right there. She's a petite female,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight year old dude, it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: do you want to sell my buy my snakers. How

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Okay, did she realize there was a quasi sexual dynamic

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Speaker 3: by what she said, she just didn't want him sniffing

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Speaker 2: People like weird things, she said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it makes sense now because the part at

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Speaker 3: I've not met any So how come you've met lots?

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Speaker 3: But that makes sense now you're saying that that's that's

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Speaker 2: For a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: That's entirely you've declared it a perversion, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for that, and I retract it to enthusiasts. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the middle of the article. The untrained eye wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: el Monsey, Circle of Southwest Miami Dade, Florida, man ran

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Speaker 3: she met up with him at a hotel. Good idea

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Speaker 3: to sell him, used snake. That's a really good idea.

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Speaker 3: Knowing circle, knowing, we think that what it's what's all about.

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Speaker 3: So you're selling your sneakers to people that want to

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Speaker 3: a terrible idea, mailed them. Then she said things got scary.

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Speaker 3: She said, Circle of South ran out of the room

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Speaker 2: Okay, now that is very confusing.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, including you folks, are all making the same Wait

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Speaker 3: what face? What she thought were her shoes? Did this

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Speaker 3: She's like, you gotta pay me for my shoes that

437
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Speaker 3: you sniff while you pleasure yourself. Otherwise it's theft. And

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Speaker 3: she's quite correct and she confronted dude, like was yelling

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Speaker 3: at him and chasing after him. That's when he got

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Speaker 3: into his suv, did a rapid three point turn and

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Speaker 3: actually hit her with his car as she was like

442
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Speaker 3: confronting him and yelling at him, which is obviously uncool.

443
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Speaker 3: But again again, you can be like America's leading seller

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Speaker 3: of shoes, undergarments, whatever the hell you want if somebody's

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Speaker 3: willing to buy him. I'm a capitalist, you go, girl,

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Speaker 3: But I think I the news consumer to deserve an explanation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I need to look this up.

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Speaker 3: Perversion generally means a deviation from what's considered normal, natural,

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Speaker 3: or acceptable. Acceptable is the eye to beholder, but certainly

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Speaker 3: normal and natural, it would it would count as a perversion.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I might have to quibble with you there.

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Speaker 3: There's one of the more striking things I ever read

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Speaker 2: How about natural? It's not natural. It's a value judgment.

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Speaker 2: It's not very entirely a value judgment.

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Speaker 3: Well, if one out of a million people are into it,

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Speaker 3: is that natural? I suppose it is natural? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: natural aberration. Yeah, if that's fairly consistent across time. The

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Speaker 3: ten percent of people are especially attracted to smells.

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Speaker 2: I'm perfectly okay calling this guy a pervert. Well he's

462
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Speaker 2: a shoe thief.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe again, he ran out with what she believed

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Speaker 3: were her shoes.

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Speaker 2: He just ran outig here with somebody's shoes. I believe

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Speaker 2: there must be mine.

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Speaker 3: Despite that, the fact that it's probably about a ninety

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Speaker 3: grenade you were stepping on. If you said anything about it,

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Speaker 3: Malcolm Gladwell apparently.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and it's worth observing that the.

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Speaker 3: Keeping dudes out of girls sports thing is still illegal

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Speaker 3: announce you're a girl, and you can play girls sports

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Speaker 3: the smile and nod and approval.

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Speaker 2: Of the left craziness.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's worth pointing out that through the years, I

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Speaker 3: mean Malcolm Gladwell, he's written a bunch of like super

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Speaker 3: popular bestsellers, but of which I really liked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah yeah. He pissed me off so much.

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Speaker 3: I saw him participate in a debate and he like

532
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Speaker 3: inappropriately played the race card and the cancel culture card

533
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Speaker 3: in a couple of spots against Matt Tayebee and Douglas

534
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Speaker 3: Murray in ways that were just baffling and unfair. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I kind of soured on Gladwell. But as I

536
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Speaker 3: was starting to say, I mean, he's been called one

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Speaker 3: of the world's most one hundred most influential people by

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Speaker 3: Time back when that mattered. Foreign Policy Magazine ranked him

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Speaker 3: in its top one hundred global thinkers. Newsweek chose him

540
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Speaker 3: for the Top ten New Thought Leaders of the decade

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Speaker 3: a number of years ago. Tipping point huge bestseller, he

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Speaker 3: has seven New York Times bestsellers, twenty three million copies sold.

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Speaker 2: His speaking fees are between.

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Speaker 3: Two and three hundred thousand dollars to come and do

545
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Speaker 3: a speech, and as rich I'm sorry as Jim Gaherty

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Speaker 3: of the National Review pointed out, you'd have to look

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Speaker 3: hard to find a guy with a better, higher or

548
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Speaker 3: more stable perch in the American cultural elite than Gladwell.

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Speaker 3: And even this guy was afraid to say what he

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Speaker 3: really thought for fear of getting canceled, which is a

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Speaker 3: good point. So, you know, pity the poor employee at

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Speaker 3: some you know, West Coast, you know, corporation that's told

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Speaker 3: you have to believe this and say this, or we're

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Speaker 3: going to hound out of here.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, what we're talking about is if you're a

556
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Speaker 2: teacher at a school, we're right.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a great example, because there's so

558
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: many great teachers of reasonable conscience who just have to

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Speaker 3: choke down their disgust with what they're being told to

560
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: teach and believe. But anyway, so Gladwell did this podcast,

561
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Speaker 3: the Real Science of Sport podcast, which is interesting but

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Speaker 3: I won't go off on a tangent to that, but

563
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Speaker 3: he and the moderator of the podcast had been on

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Speaker 3: a panel together. Malcolm was the moderator and Ross Tucker

565
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: is the other guy. Ross was on the panel as

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Speaker 3: being against guys playing in girls sports. And I'll just

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Speaker 3: pick up where Gladwell starts talking. Yeah, they stacked the panel.

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Speaker 3: They stacked against your Ross. They put a trans athlete

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Speaker 3: and a trans advocate and you on the panel, and

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Speaker 3: I was the moderator. And it was one of those

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Speaker 3: strange situations where my suspicion is that ninety percent of

572
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Speaker 3: the people in the audience were on your side, but

573
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Speaker 3: five percent of the audience was willing to admit it.

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Speaker 3: I've become fascinated with this concept of a preference falsification lately,

575
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Speaker 3: where forceful advocates for a minority position are so adamant

576
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Speaker 3: and bullying that everybody sits there silently, then looks around

577
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Speaker 3: themselves and says, well, I guess nobody else disagrees. I'm

578
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Speaker 3: in a very small minority because everybody's being quiet. But

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Speaker 3: as Gladwell now says, he thought ninety percent of the

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Speaker 3: audience was with Ross, but only five percent were willing

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Speaker 3: to admit it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 3: Tucker says, My recollection of it is that everything I

584
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Speaker 3: said was met with deathly silence, and everything the other

585
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: two said got cheered. Sure, and Gladwell says, well, the cheers,

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Speaker 3: I mean. I think there was a hardcore of people

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Speaker 3: who are ideologically committed to the position, but the idea

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Speaker 3: that I mean, there's many interesting things to say about

589
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Speaker 3: that conversation. One was that it was a particular moment

590
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Speaker 3: which has passed. We did a replay of that exact

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Speaker 3: panel at the Sloan Conference in March and it ran

592
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Speaker 3: in exactly the opposite direction.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I the bloom is off the Rose thing on

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Speaker 2: that topic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Gladwell says, and I think this is notable.

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Speaker 3: I just think it was strange. I mean I felt,

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Speaker 3: I mean the reason I'm ashamed of my performance that

598
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Speaker 3: should you should be ashamed? You should be actually ashamed. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: whenever you're being a coward in the face of bullies

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Speaker 3: who are pushing a perverse and ugly ideology and you

601
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Speaker 3: don't stand up, Yes, you should be ashamed. Especially I

602
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Speaker 3: mean when you feel like you can't you realize I

603
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Speaker 3: get that, Especially when you're ungodly wealthy and the only

604
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Speaker 3: thing you're risking is the opinion of some nutjobs who

605
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Speaker 3: you think you're going to run into it a party.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is some weak tea right there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Gladwell, especially out of money, mentally ashamed. But here's what

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Speaker 3: he says. The reason I'm ashamed of my performance on

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Speaker 3: that panel is because I share your position one hundred percent,

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Speaker 3: and I was cowed the idea of saying anything on

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Speaker 3: this issue. I was in I believe in retrospect in

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Speaker 3: a dishonest way.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was objective in a dishonest way.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of the real howlers pass without comment

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Speaker 3: because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: And I said you in an email.

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Speaker 3: Of a Uh's a oh, and I he's talking about

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Speaker 3: Riley Gaines. They were trans athlete there. They were the

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Speaker 3: trans athlete down the panel, and at one point they

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Speaker 3: turned to you, Ross and they said, Ross, you have

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Speaker 3: to let us win. And it was at that moment

622
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Speaker 3: I realized this position is gone to the furthest extreme.

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Speaker 3: What the trans movement is not asking for. They're not

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Speaker 3: asking for, you know, a place at the table. They're

625
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Speaker 3: not asking to be treated with respect and dignity. What

626
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Speaker 3: they're asking for is that no one questioned the considerable

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Speaker 3: physical physiological advantage they bring to the sport, and no

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Speaker 3: one can question if they're going to win these races

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Speaker 3: by five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Suck it up. That's what they were asking right, So.

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Speaker 3: There's no point in beating up on Malcolm Gladwell, Uh, really,

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Speaker 3: can we come on?

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Speaker 5: It's good cardiovascular exercise. She let people like Riley Gaines

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Speaker 5: put their physical safety at risk by speaking what they

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Speaker 5: believed or JK. Rowlings sticking her neck out. You agreed

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Speaker 5: with them, But you're too big a freaking coward. And

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Speaker 5: you want to be able to go to cool New

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Speaker 5: York parties without anybody giving you the side eye that

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Speaker 5: you kept your mouth shut.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's so freaking weak. I'd be ashamed to

641
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Speaker 3: walk in public if I were that person. Yeah, Malcolm Gladwell,

642
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: you should be a shamed to be in public. I

643
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Speaker 3: mean seriously, that is so damn we You're ungodly rich,

644
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Speaker 3: you're as successful as you can get. You've got nothing

645
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Speaker 3: to lose, zero to lose by saying the truth. And

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Speaker 3: you still would too big a coward because well, I

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Speaker 3: want to be the cool guy at the party.

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Speaker 2: God, that's so weak. But I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about that because there's no point.

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Speaker 3: What the The interesting part that we should all take

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Speaker 3: to heart is that even at that level, people are

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Speaker 3: willing to go along with the crowd if it's just easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even at that level. So if even at that level,

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Speaker 2: people are willing to go that.

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Speaker 3: We have to We have to factor that into every

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Speaker 3: phenomenon that comes ever again in our lives, whether it's

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Speaker 3: climate change, of trends, or anything.

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show,