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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: next flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Central Time. So you know that can

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Speaker 1: mean only one thing, that you get a live low

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Speaker 1: Tostita's Championship Plaza at Ford Center at the Star. It

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Speaker 1: is a brisk twenty six degrees in Frisco, Texas, man,

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Speaker 1: and it's windy, and it feels like fifteen degrees outside. Fellows,

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Speaker 1: winner has finally arrived. It took midway through February hit here,

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Speaker 1: but we finally have it. And welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys presented by Wingstop. Natan Newton, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Shining Gross. How are you Chris Beam on

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Speaker 1: the ones and two is how you Fellows feeling got

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl behind us? We can start the season.

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Speaker 1: We can move forward. Man, what a game? Did y'all

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Speaker 1: see that coming? It's just so amazed that, uh the

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Speaker 1: MVP Todd Bowls. Man, it's just amazed me how he

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Speaker 1: won at a you know, African American coach on defense. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that that was so great man. Yeah, that whole defense

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Speaker 1: should have got MVP. Right, Yeah, we see, I know

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Speaker 1: I got you stopped there like wow. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking all defense. So everything y'all talk about to day,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be about defense. For na see what you're

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Speaker 1: going with this? I see yeah, this is oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a little foreshotow and a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Brady. Tom Brady is so smart. And

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Speaker 1: Shannon said this yesterday when I called him, because he

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Speaker 1: is the only one that responds. Everyone not smart enough

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Speaker 1: to realize that I was going all defense when I

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Speaker 1: call y'all, he said, he said, I'm like, wow, Shadow,

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Speaker 1: did you like that defense? He like, well, that's what

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Speaker 1: I called you about to talk about defense? Y'all? Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Why why nobody in the Dallas area is

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Speaker 1: ready to talk about defense? Fellas, we're ready, Nate, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about all year. Have you not been on

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Speaker 1: this show? It just hasn't been in a positive half.

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Speaker 1: They half let me stop clouding, man, Let's have a

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Speaker 1: great show. No no, no, But I like where you're

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Speaker 1: going with this. I like I pick up what you're

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Speaker 1: putting down and how defensively, While yes you had Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and yes he's the golden boy defensively to be

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Speaker 1: able to mount up and shut down a prolific offense

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Speaker 1: like the Kansas City Chiefs, I mean, despite they were

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Speaker 1: missing their two tackles and their receivers dropped a ton

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Speaker 1: of passes, defense won that football game. The defense shut

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Speaker 1: down the most high powered offense in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We can all agree on that there isn't an offense

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Speaker 1: that's more high powered, more ready to score points and

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Speaker 1: bunches than the Kansas City Chiefs. And they were basically

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Speaker 1: a team they played two weeks earlier, you right, and

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Speaker 1: they they top bowls. To your credit what you were saying,

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Speaker 1: they put together a masterful game plan. Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: it seems just so. And I'm going when you going,

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Speaker 1: Nate to have linebackers that can run and play and

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Speaker 1: you know, tackle and not have to do a dance

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Speaker 1: move out to every single play, but just get back

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Speaker 1: go back to work. I mean to have guys in

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Speaker 1: When you know that behind you, my guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to cover and be able to tackle. I

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Speaker 1: could pin my ear backs, my ears back and just

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Speaker 1: go to work up front. And we saw it on

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers in that Super Bowl game. I just that was

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Speaker 1: something that I was kind of surprised about. Jesse, you

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Speaker 1: is getting a lot of publicity for obviously they played

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Speaker 1: But I was just surprised. I really didn't know those

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Speaker 1: you can't. You cannot. You can only say that when

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Speaker 1: you have four horses up front that can get it done.

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Speaker 1: And they had the proper four horses up front, and

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Speaker 1: and on, and one guy played with with with seven fingers.

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Speaker 1: that Mahomes scrambled for four hundred and ninety seven yards

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Speaker 1: you don't be coverd and the COVID and everything as

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Speaker 1: it's time the ball. So yeah, how much a factor

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey getting throughout this entire year, he's been unguardable.

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Speaker 1: get it going. And Tom Brady is so methodical. When

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Speaker 1: so happened that we're reviewing that game and to hear

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Speaker 1: com Forward Slash Cowboys. Nate wears them while he drinks

427
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Speaker 1: his coffee and bangs his cup loudly. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Shan,

428
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It is okay this this hey, I mean,

429
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Speaker 1: Jesskin can cuss and do all these things, and you

430
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Speaker 1: never mentioned that. Well, he doesn't do it on the show.

431
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: That's why, that's right, he doesn't. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm Jesse. Actually did not sorry, Jesse. He

433
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Speaker 1: put the symbols in there. I'm just the bus driver

434
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Speaker 1: and you're the rowdy children on this show. So everyone,

435
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: so I'm a tattle. I'm a big tattletal makes a

436
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: big tattle till I'm gonna tell y'all something right now.

437
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Speaker 1: Who are listening at home? If you do not want

438
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Speaker 1: it broadcas not to Nathan Daniel because it's gonna come out. Hey,

439
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Jesse, my my, my uncle.

440
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: Listen to this show and uh, in the crop pot,

441
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: ribs and all of that. I said, I wanted some shrimp.

442
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna try to fry some shrimps. I was

443
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: calling around to ask how to do that. He said, Well,

444
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Speaker 1: asks Jesse, he may put it in a crop pot.

445
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Speaker 1: I said, Jest, put anything else. I put him in

446
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Speaker 1: the air fry, though I was. I tell you, I

447
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: tell you who who natives to our group. You know

448
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: how you have those friends where you always have to say, hey,

449
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: make sure you know, don't this is public knowledge. Don't

450
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Speaker 1: tell anybody. I wouldn't tell anybody that unless you tell

451
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Speaker 1: them that and give them that disclaimer. There is a

452
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Speaker 1: very good possibility that something will be talked about that

453
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Speaker 1: you say off the air that like, but you just

454
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Speaker 1: gotta make sure you put that in there because if not,

455
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: there's a chance that what you talk about we'll get out.

456
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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. I apologize. Nate's friend. It's okay. It's okay,

457
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Speaker 1: because I don't think you've ever said anything on the

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Speaker 1: show that we were like, man, why did you say

459
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Speaker 1: that on the air yet? Oh, I've got something that

460
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Speaker 1: your mom said that I was. I'm not gonna do.

461
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do. I'm

462
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: letting mother girls tell tell that story, which she gets

463
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Speaker 1: back on the show. Okay, okay, all right, Kurt, talk

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Speaker 1: us through this, uh j C. What is it? Treader?

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Speaker 1: Treader however pronounced his name. The president of the NFLPA

466
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Speaker 1: had some comments. You send us the article over over

467
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Speaker 1: this week, and uh, it's very interesting. I talked to

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Speaker 1: Nate about it, uh yesterday and he had some interesting comments.

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Speaker 1: And I want to know what you guys, so give

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Speaker 1: us kind of the cliff notes version of what the

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Speaker 1: president of the NFLPA had to say. Kurt, Yeah, you

472
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Speaker 1: just said that, you know, well, this past season due

473
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Speaker 1: to COVID, A lot of the off season programs were

474
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Speaker 1: they didn't happen. You know, there was no ta's, there's

475
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Speaker 1: no mini camp, it was all done. The meetings were

476
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Speaker 1: done virtually, there's no you know, offseason workouts of any kind.

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Speaker 1: Training camp was shortened up a little. Preseason games were

478
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Speaker 1: obviously gone. What the president of the NFLPA was saying

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Speaker 1: that this should be the new norm. That that I

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Speaker 1: think he said. His quote was, I believe the changes

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Speaker 1: implemented this season have demonstrated that we can put an

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Speaker 1: entertaining product on the field while further reducing wear and

483
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Speaker 1: tear on our players bodies. And so you know, he

484
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: felt that, you know that the games weren't that sloppy

485
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Speaker 1: starting out, that there was high scoring, they were fun

486
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Speaker 1: to watch. And because of that, um, you know, if

487
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Speaker 1: there wasn't a need to have players there all summer,

488
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Speaker 1: coming in in the spring to do these off season

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Speaker 1: workouts and so, um, you know, it kind of flew

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Speaker 1: into the radar. But in reading this, I definitely want

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Speaker 1: to get you know, Nate, you and Jesse's inions on

492
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Speaker 1: as former players. Yes, they would save some wear and

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Speaker 1: tear maybe, but wouldn't it really affect the quality on

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Speaker 1: the field. Ah, Like I told Shannon yesterday, the love

495
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: of money would not let this happen. Merchandise has to

496
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Speaker 1: be sold, players have to be visible, TVs have to

497
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: get their cuts and their takes and to to to

498
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: build up until this season. They may cut back some

499
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Speaker 1: days or maybe some hours or when the players gonna

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Speaker 1: be on field, but the ownership would not let this

501
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Speaker 1: go because they need their dollars. Now. When it comes

502
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Speaker 1: to the production part, I mean you guys remember earlier

503
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Speaker 1: in the year we had a record pace of torn

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Speaker 1: acls and achilles injuries that we saw earlier in the

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Speaker 1: football hitting from guys bodies who just haven't adjusted. And

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Speaker 1: the more the more time off away from the facilities

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Speaker 1: that you give these professional athletes and I use the

508
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Speaker 1: term professional loosely because some of them don't act professional league. Oh,

509
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Speaker 1: mate Newton, the more time that you give them off,

510
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Speaker 1: the more and more you're going to see showing up

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Speaker 1: out of shape, trouble off the field. See, it's easy.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say, oh yeah, sure, let's not have

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Speaker 1: these things when there's a pandemic and you cannot go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: right when you're when you're when you're forced to stay

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Speaker 1: in the home and ridiculed. If you're caught outside of

516
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Speaker 1: your home, it's a whole other thing. If you're saying,

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Speaker 1: let's not have these off season workouts and I'm free

518
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Speaker 1: to go party and hang out and do all those

519
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: other things and not have to report anywhere until June

520
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: or July, that's when you run into the guys. We

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Speaker 1: already saw guys coming out of shape when there was

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Speaker 1: no access to the facilities. So when you continue to

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Speaker 1: give guys these ability, disability to not have to show

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Speaker 1: up to a designated place, we are creatures of habit.

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Speaker 1: We are creatures of routine. As professional and as profound

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Speaker 1: as we may be as athletes, we need direction. And

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Speaker 1: when we do not get direction, we get wayward and

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Speaker 1: that can lead to terrible outcomes. You'll have more players

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Speaker 1: showing up to train the camp out of shape, trying

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Speaker 1: to work themselves back in shape. That the injury numbers

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Speaker 1: will go through the roof, and you'll start seeing more

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Speaker 1: off the field incidents happening, and in regards to DUIs

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Speaker 1: and domestic situations and you know, fights, and because when

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Speaker 1: we when we don't have direction, and I don't mean everybody,

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Speaker 1: this is not This isn't it is abroad for everybody,

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Speaker 1: But there's a large majar of young, immature, very rich

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Speaker 1: players who do not know how to handle themselves without

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Speaker 1: a sense of direction. And so while it may seem

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00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: good on the surface, like oh yeah, see, we don't

540
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: really need this, we saw earlier in the year the

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Speaker 1: product that was put on the field. It was ugly.

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00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: It was really really ugly. We saw the injury numbers

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Speaker 1: earlier in the fear the earlier in the year those

544
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: were and they were all like acls, they were all

545
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Speaker 1: like seizing ending injuries. I think that's a bad idea,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think structure for athletes, especially football players,

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Speaker 1: and Nate you can speak to this. I know for

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Speaker 1: me that structure is something that was so paramount for

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Speaker 1: everything that we do. And when you take that away,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and Gronk joked about it, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well what I did was I ran on a Monday

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Speaker 1: and I just put on three different shirts and sent

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Speaker 1: it in. I'm not gonna check and everybody's not Grounk,

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Speaker 1: But do you think that's the mentality right that is here?

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Is Rob Gronkowski and he's like, I'm not doing all

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Speaker 1: that running every day all day. I'll work my way

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Speaker 1: in the shape as the season goes on. And this

558
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: is Rob Gronkowski is one of the best tight ends

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00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: in NFL history. And he said, well, I just put

560
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: on the same I put on the three different shirts

561
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: on the same workout in one day just to satisfy

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Speaker 1: my coaches need for me to work out three days

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Speaker 1: a week. Let me say something, man, you're gonna let

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Speaker 1: every guy that's three hundred pounds plus free for five months.

565
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna let every guy that's three hundred pounds So

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Speaker 1: when they come in camp looking like this thing, we

567
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: let go here eight weeks until our season. Who I

568
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: couldn't pronounce his name because people thought I couldn't. I

569
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to, and I would not pronounce his name. Now,

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00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: if you want a bunch of olds running round you're camp,

571
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Speaker 1: have at it, have at it. And then when it's

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Now, this is where

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Speaker 1: it's gonna really lead to, is now you're gonna start

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Speaker 1: saying we don't need all these weeks of training camp

575
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Speaker 1: because they already talking about cutting back on training camp

576
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: so now all of these fat dudes walking walking the

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Speaker 1: camp and the coach is going crazy with the ownership

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00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: and you saw that, Well we need like three weeks

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Speaker 1: now just to get in shape. Nah, it ain't gonna work, brother,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling it. Then the dollar bills that the ownership

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Speaker 1: wonna lose all the bills. Now, it will work if

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Speaker 1: if if the player associations come back and say, well,

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Speaker 1: we know we wanted forty nine or fifty percent will

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Speaker 1: get We'll take forty six percent. That okay, hands up.

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Speaker 1: I think you're giving back some punts they ain't get.

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Speaker 1: They ain't going for that, bro. Yeah, it's it's definitely

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00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: a collective bargaining agreement. And I think part of that.

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00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: You may say, you know, the owners want an eighteenth game.

589
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: They want they're gonna have seventeen this year to make

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: up some revenue, and they're they're shooting for eighteen, and

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00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: this may be a bargaining chip where the players say, yeah,

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00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: we'll play that eighteenth game, but we're not gonna you know,

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00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have so much time in the offseason.

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: We're required to be there so and a lot of

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: guys gonna get cut and a lot of fat guys

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Speaker 1: gonna get cut. I'm just selling you. They agree to that,

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00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: we'll continue to be the dumbest union. And all of sports,

598
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: the baseball, basketball, hockey, all laugh at our our players union,

599
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: all of them. They all laugh at our because the

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00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: NFL players Union is the weakest, the most divided, and

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00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: the dumbest. And if you if you think adding an

602
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: eighteen game and taking away more practice time is going

603
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: to be better for you this listen, these these these athletes,

604
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: now they don't want to work. They don't want to

605
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: work when you gotta work, and now you're gonna give

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00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: them more free time. You're you're you're asking, you're begging,

607
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: you're inviting trouble for your league. And that's just my pediment.

608
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: And to Nate's point, the NFL has done an amazing

609
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: job over the last ten to fifteen years to make

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00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: the NFL a twelvemonth a year's sport. If you think

611
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: about it, it's not by accident. Jimmy Johnson, think about it.

612
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Every day Jimmy Johnson came into the league. You've got

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Speaker 1: you know, the only really downtime is between after the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and when free agency starts, which is the

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: middle of March. Think about it. You got free agency

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Speaker 1: in March, you got the draft in April, you got

617
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: OTAs in May, you got OTAs in mini camps in June,

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00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: you got training camp in July, in August, then you

619
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Speaker 1: roll into the season, and then the end of the season,

620
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: you got the Pro Bowl, and then you got the

621
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl again, and then it's a twelve And they've

622
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: done a tremendous job with the draft, taking the Draft

623
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Speaker 1: from this boring who cares whatever, to turning it into

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: this three day you can't miss this event, at least

625
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: on the first night. Anyway, they've turned it into this

626
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: drama that they've you know, they start teasing a month

627
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: out and now it's that's turned into an event on

628
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: its own. So they're they're slowly building every month to

629
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Speaker 1: be a huge event. And like Nate said, if you

630
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: take offseason activities out of that, that takes two or

631
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: three months of programming off the table. Because they're in

632
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: the news, they're leading off Sports Center every day, they're

633
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: they're being talked about, they're building their brand, they're making

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00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: money for the league, which in turn makes money for

635
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: the players. So, like Jesse said, if they do this,

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00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: They're they're they're not thinking big picture from a players standpoint,

637
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Speaker 1: and they're they're making the pie smaller. So if they

638
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: do it, I think, like you said, Kurt, it's a

639
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: bargaining chip. It's something that they'll give and take. But

640
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way they just do away

641
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: with offseason activities. It doesn't make sense on either side

642
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: to me. What if what if this season has all

643
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: the appearances that it's going to be much like last

644
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: season because of COVID restrictions. I mean, how much is

645
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: this going to hurt the Cowboys? Then we need to

646
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: go sign Tom Brady so he can go get a

647
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: football field from us. And I'm being honest, man, I'm

648
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: being honest. We we we were allowed to tell our

649
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: fans that, and it's it's four or five other new

650
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: coaches last year that didn't have this disaster we had,

651
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: but we were allowed to tell our fans, Okay, we

652
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: got injured, we had a new coach, we had new

653
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: this players then buy in, well, everybody else bought in

654
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: right again, So it's nowhere in the world. If I'm

655
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: coach McCarthy, I just begin fined. I just write a

656
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Speaker 1: letter to the to do people in New York, big

657
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Speaker 1: park avenues and look at her man. I got to

658
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: work this year. I got to go to work. I

659
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: have to go to work. And these lawyers got to

660
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: go to work. And most of these coaches, like, I mean,

661
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: you take your half. The league is probably turning into

662
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: younger coaches who understand, who understand the zoom etiquette in

663
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: the way of teaching. But most coaches aren't built like that.

664
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Most coaches are more built on let me get my

665
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: hands on these players. Let's get on the football field.

666
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Let's actually see this thing in motion with live people

667
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: in person, bodies, own bodies, pads on pads, helmet on

668
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: a helmet. That's how they function. And when you take

669
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: that away and you ask them to go and do

670
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: things virtually, they're they're not good at doing thing virtually.

671
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: They're not good at doing the thing over the computer

672
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: where guys are sitting in another room. No, I want

673
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: to be able to see the white of your eyes.

674
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: I want to be able to hear the grunts that's

675
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: happening in the football field. I want to be able

676
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: to correct on the run. I want to be able

677
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: to see the players and go you know what, This

678
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: guy can't cover in the flats, this guy can't really cover.

679
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: That guy can't really run routes. This guy really cannot block,

680
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: you know what, he can't throw. But I don't get

681
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: a chance to see that if all my officeson has

682
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: done virtually or cut down to a very limited amount.

683
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: And then you're getting training camp and you make it

684
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: even harder on yourself because I got up, the speed

685
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: picks up. But also now I gotta try to evaluate players,

686
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: make a roster, oh, and get ready for a football season.

687
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's that's hardening itself. Just to evaluate

688
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: the players and get a roster. Now you gotta add

689
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: into how do I gain plan for my next opponent

690
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: in the next three or four weeks and one training camp.

691
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: That's that's not And you know this is the big

692
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: thing that everybody say, whether they do it in college

693
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: where if you bamma, is your really word? Is your clips?

694
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Are you really word? Okay, you just go out and say, hey,

695
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: that's the number that dude there's a future first round

696
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: pick can't play with us. Yeah, but but they but

697
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: you still get winner, you still get winner winner workouts,

698
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: you still get spring But what I'm saying is they

699
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: say that the college player come from virtually zero to

700
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: a thousand miles an hour. Well, you can't put that product,

701
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Like you said, Ja, you can't put that product because

702
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: this guy may look good playing at Bama. But what

703
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: if you come in and, like you say, can't run

704
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: a correct route. And here's Jack Thorne to a space

705
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: but a guy supposed to be But in college you

706
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: can get there because the supreme after of the comability.

707
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: But here you can't get there against Tampa Bay because Dan.

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Speaker 1: I'll ascue, just to give you an idea how far

709
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Speaker 1: things have come. I was watching an interview with Tom Landry,

710
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: probably back in nineteen seventy six, seventy seven, something like that,

711
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: and it was the second week of training kit that

712
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: the rookies had been there two weeks. It was the

713
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Speaker 1: first week, first week of the veterans. That Saturday, after

714
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Speaker 1: the first week, they're playing a full fact blue white,

715
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Speaker 1: full contact scrammage is tackling to the ground, full contact.

716
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: And then they had six preseason games before they actually

717
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: seen eight weeks. It was eight weeks. It was eight

718
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: weeks when I got there, it was six weeks. But

719
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: before I got there. It was eight weeks and we

720
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: had two hundred and forty guys and by the time

721
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Speaker 1: I got that, it was down to one hundred and sixty,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it was a blood bath. It was

723
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Speaker 1: a blood bath. It was a blood bath. I mean

724
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Speaker 1: you you got in there, man, you got your swarter,

725
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: you got the gladiat as soon as you got them. Bro.

726
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: It's like they didn't ask me, was I shape? They

727
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: just found some paths where they weren't really path They

728
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: put together some paths because they don't have nothing fat

729
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: for the fat guy got a couple of pads they

730
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: just put I came into the league. Tell into that.

731
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, I said. I came in the

732
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: league on the tell into that. Like when I got

733
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: into the league, we were still doing we were still

734
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: doing two days. Rookie minicamp. I was ready to quit.

735
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I said, this is this is they they ran us

736
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: into the ground. Rookie. That's worse than fourth low. Yeah.

737
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like for the government, Scotts, I don't

738
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: know about this man. And it was through pads two

739
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: a day. It wasn't all this two a day walk

740
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: through stuff. No, no, no, it was full pads, hitting,

741
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: tackling every day. Wasn't no schedule off day. You know,

742
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: you got your off day when coach felt like you

743
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: did enough to get an off day. It wasn't like

744
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: no every third day or every fifth day you got

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00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: a day off day. It was so funny, man, we

746
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: was in We was in California a couple of years ago,

747
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: and they had did the three day acclimation deal and

748
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Speaker 1: then on the fourth day, that morning they did a

749
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750
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,719
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751
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,520
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Speaker 1: first day they bo And I love it because now

753
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: all teams had that option before we did. The Cowboys

754
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: never had that option. Coach Landry here listening to coach

755
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Joss music killing. We didn't have all we had to

756
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: go like one week, we went like ten days straight

757
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: before we had an off date, and that was just

758
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: half a night off. So let's take our last huh,

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Speaker 1: let's take our last break. When we come back, we

760
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,640
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813
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: Pearson got into the Hall of Fame over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: long overdue, much deserved. I've seen, I've seen news and

815
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,000
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816
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: of Fame ballot? Could be Tony Romo and DeMarcus Ware.

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Speaker 1: Are those possibly or either either one of those gonna

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Speaker 1: get in? Either one of those worthy? Shouldn't they get

819
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Speaker 1: in first time? Ballot? Are those the next two guys

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Speaker 1: that we'll get in? Kurt, Well, you think where or

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Speaker 1: should For sure, I think he's one of the all

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Speaker 1: time leaders in sacks. He should be a problem. Romo

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00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,800
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Speaker 1: a title, you know, he'd probably in. You know, you

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00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: look at compare him to Eli Manning, I mean statistically

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00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: and as a quarterback, he's probably uh, you know better,

828
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: but you know Manning's got the ring. So um, Rumo

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00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: is probably going to be one of those Hall of

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Speaker 1: Very Goods type guys. Hmm, yeah, I think. I think

831
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware is a is a shoe win like that

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Speaker 1: that's hands down, without the question d Ware will wear

833
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: a yellow jacket sooner rather than later. Um first ballot. Uh,

834
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Speaker 1: it depends on who all he's going up against. UM,

835
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: but for sure he's getting in there. Uh, Tony might

836
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: be on that Drew Pierson route to the Hall of Fame.

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00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: If he gets in, it's probably gonna have to be

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00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: one of those centennial type deals or you know down

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Speaker 1: the line where maybe the ballot isn't as thick of

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00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: letting people you know, uh into that year. Um. I

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00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: think he has some really good nose but ultimately, and

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00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: we we say that it shouldn't be, but quarterbacks are

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00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: judged on rings. And you can have all the numbers

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Speaker 1: you want in the world, but did you get that

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Speaker 1: blak blak? And for Tony he was, he wasn't able

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Speaker 1: to secure it. And so there will be a lot

847
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. You look at the Eli Mannings and the

848
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: Ben roethlis Burgers of the world. Um, when they begin

849
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: to retire and start making their march towards the Hall

850
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: of Fame, you know, it all depends on who's Tony's

851
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: rown up against. And you know, maybe in a couple

852
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: of years, but I don't I don't think initially when

853
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: he's when he's available to get in, he won't. He

854
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: won't get into it. It'll take some time for him

855
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: to get in. Yeah, I wanted to ask you, Jesse

856
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: and eight two if I don't know how much you

857
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: watched Drew Pearson. But he wasn't all that bad. Give

858
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: you six foot one eighty something, he wasn't all that fast.

859
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of the highlights I saw him

860
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: looked like he was kind of more of a body

861
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: catcher and type than you know, But what was he

862
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: like a fantastic route runner. You just have a fantastic

863
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: quarterback throwing to him. I mean, what what made him

864
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: so great? I guess his swag, his swag and the

865
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: norm be Mike Irvin said something one time and Jess

866
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: and making expound on it a little bit better than

867
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: I can. Mike Irvin said, ain't that. You gotta be

868
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: a great route runner. You just gotta be where you're

869
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: supposed to be when the ball needs to be there.

870
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what he was to Roger. You know,

871
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: him and Roger just can look at each other and

872
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: they knew what was gonna happen. So and he could

873
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: always make that catch. You know, you had Butch Johnson

874
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: who was much faster. You had a lot of other guys,

875
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: Golden Riches, I think, guys like that that was much faster,

876
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: better route runners. But he was that complete package. And

877
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: he was the guy that Roger bleed and the most

878
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: to make it happen. Tony Hill a young Tony Hill

879
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: that could fly, you know. So he was that guy

880
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: just much more like Michael Irvan. We had a lot

881
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: of guys that were faster, that could do anything, but

882
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: when the ball was supposed to arrive at a certain

883
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: place and we needed to play Michael Irvan was that guy. Hey, Kurt,

884
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. We were talking to

885
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff. It seems like recently, when you

886
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: know former Cowboys have been up for or going to

887
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: be up for the Hall of Fame that they you know,

888
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: it seems like they get inducted into the Ring of

889
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Honor is kind of a launching pad to help them

890
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame. Do you do you

891
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: see with Tony and DeMarcus, you know, being up for

892
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: possible Hall of Fame nominations. Do you think that we'll

893
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: see them inducted into the Ring of Honor this officer

894
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: or this year? Oh? I don't that's a good question.

895
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously will be at some point, um,

896
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it'll be this year or not.

897
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: It may depend, you know, if we have fans on

898
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: the stands, if they want to a big, big kind

899
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: of production out of it or not. But when they're

900
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: go in, I'm not sure, but they'll definitely go in.

901
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got those two, You've got Whitna'll be

902
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: going in here in a few years. I mean, there's

903
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: some guys coming up that that will definitely be included.

904
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: You know, there's some guys from the past that you

905
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: wonder if you know a lot of people would like

906
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: to see included, Neverson Walls type or Tutall Jones or

907
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Harvey Martin, you know, and you wonder if they'll ever

908
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: get a chance at it. You you all the greats

909
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: of the Stillers and all the greats of the Raiders

910
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: in and you know, I used to jokingly saying it's

911
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory against the Cowboys. I used to that that

912
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: thing is real, that that that that thing is real.

913
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we have more, we have more major guys

914
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: in broadcasting around the league, in NFL, in major spots

915
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: for these guys being in places that they're in, and

916
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: and and I think sometime when you are that local

917
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: guy that has that vote, you'd be like, here's my

918
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: chance to make my mark, And it won't be for

919
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Just think we own CBS, we own Fox.

920
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: We got Troy, we got Tony Romo, we got Moose

921
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: John So, we had got guys all over the place.

922
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: We got Micael Irving, we got Dian and Sanders doing

923
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: his thing. We got guys all over the place. Now,

924
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: whether you want to say they are eye guys or not,

925
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: they're a guys. Yeah, oh guy from from you. You know,

926
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: I was kind of disappointing against Cowboys fans. They said,

927
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, Lynch go into the Hall of Fame and

928
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Woodson not even you know, get get close. I guess

929
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: he got kind of close. But that's another guy you'd

930
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: like to see from the Cowboys get in there, is

931
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson. So you know, I say, the much money

932
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: is mister Jones is made for these guys much big

933
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: ideas as he's brought or you know, you would think,

934
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, people say, well, Nate, you now

935
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: you you acting like the rest of the guys. You right,

936
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a Dallas Cowboy doing through. So you write,

937
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: I am acting like the other guys. You know, his

938
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory against the Dallas Cowboys. Tony Romo should get

939
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: on it. Just broadcasting alone put him in there for that. Now,

940
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: that's true. He changed a game. Tony Romo changed the

941
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: game when he became a broadcast. He definitely changed the

942
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: pay scale. That's right. Yeah, you got seven minutes. What

943
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: are we talking about. Well, there's a couple of news

944
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: items that came out just within the last couple of days.

945
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I thought i'd throw out you to get your opinions

946
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: on you know, I don't know if you guys heard

947
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson kind of made some news yesterday. In fact,

948
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: you know a lot of rumors out there now that

949
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: he might be requesting a trade behind the scenes, and

950
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: he's not happy with Seattle, and that you know, he

951
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: wants more say in free agent signings, that sort of thing.

952
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: It's just just all kind of you know, the rumor

953
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: mill kicking up, or do you think there's a chance

954
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: to you know, Seattle would let Russell'll get out of there.

955
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Let me say this before we start quarterbacks, y'all may

956
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: not want to listen to those fat office alignment. Things

957
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: ain't nice in that real world, like you think. Now

958
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna follow that on that apple pie like Tom Brady.

959
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you this, things ain't always

960
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: nice outside defense. Now stay your old pastor, bro. But

961
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: let me also say this. I love I love it too.

962
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the fact that players have

963
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: finally come around to understanding just how much power they

964
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: actually have in this league. And while most people will say, well,

965
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: you guys need to shut up in dribble or shut

966
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: up and just play. You make whatever whatever. I love

967
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: the fact because at the end of the day, no

968
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: matter how much these quarterbacks are play make, the ownership

969
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: makes three times that, four times that from their play

970
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: on the field. So while people may say, well you

971
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: make a hundred he made one hundred million dollars, cool

972
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Seattle made six hundred million dollars. They made whatever. It is.

973
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: So if there's a situation, because teams when they are

974
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: done with you, when you when your soul your services

975
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: are no longer needed for that team, they don't give you.

976
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: They don't give you many options. They just say, fruit,

977
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: we're done with you. See you, You're out the door.

978
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: So I am so happy and glad to see players

979
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: understanding that now and saying, you know what, things aren't

980
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: the way that I want them to be. So I'm out,

981
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: just like you would do me if I wasn't performed

982
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: up to where you wanted me to perform, you tell

983
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: me get out. So I'm gonna see myself out because

984
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: you aren't doing things that make me happy as your

985
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: franchise player. So I love it. I love it. I

986
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: love it. I love it, and I know I know

987
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: that some of these owners they're not used to the

988
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: to the pushback. And we won't get into the history

989
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: of the NFL because it was an interesting thing that

990
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: I did watch prior to and I'm sorry, I'm sorry

991
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: to kind of cut us cut into your your thinker,

992
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: but there was there was, there was an interesting thing

993
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: that I watched, and maybe one day we'll get deeper

994
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: into this thing because it has a it has a

995
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of a racial understanding of the NFL and where

996
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: the NFL started. And I didn't know that there was

997
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: a period where the NFL had kind of black ball

998
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: black players from playing in the league for a lot

999
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: of these teams, and you start to just think to yourself, right,

1000
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: this was like happening like in the nineteen I think

1001
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen thirties and forties, And you look

1002
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: at some of the people and ownership of teams, like

1003
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: the owners of those teams who are in their eighties

1004
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: and nineties, like they grew up in that era, Like

1005
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: they grew up in that era of how football was

1006
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: played back then, like they were their foundation was taught

1007
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: in that era. So again that's another college and for

1008
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: another day. But it just gives you a better understanding

1009
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: of house. Sometimes you say, well, why isn't there any

1010
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: black coaches and black you know, ownership and and and

1011
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, and GM stuff like that.

1012
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: And he started looking at the history of the NFL

1013
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: and now who's running the NFL, what the owners and

1014
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: the people in power. A lot of them come from

1015
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: from that area. So I am extremely happy when I

1016
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: see guys like Russell, Wilson and Westbrook, I mean, Westbrook

1017
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: and Watson kind of take back that that power one

1018
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: say no, if you're not, if you guys aren't gonna

1019
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: do right by me, then I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

1020
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: gonna flex my power and go elsewhere. But give them

1021
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: a bit father u is. Some reminisce okay, Green Bay

1022
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: won't help with their Sarah Caap and their quarterbacks, saying okay,

1023
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: when I need to help. Last year in the draft,

1024
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: y'all went out and repay me with a quarterback my

1025
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: future backup. So if y'all want me, guess what we're

1026
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: going to do some restruction of contracts. So I'm with

1027
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: you there, I mean, but the reason I said that

1028
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: right there, because it's not a lot of teams built

1029
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: for that that that quick success. Yo. Ray's saying, let

1030
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: people know how value bare. I'm with that as a player,

1031
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: but be calfol, which which team you choose that you

1032
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: may not be walking into a worse situation. Wouldn't it

1033
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: make sense for owners to talk to a guy like

1034
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: Wilson to get his perspective and opinion on free agents.

1035
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: I think he has said that, you know, he's a player,

1036
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: he's seeing these he's up against these guys. He may

1037
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: he may know things about them more so than a

1038
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: general manager sitting in the in the office, you know,

1039
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: opening up a can of way the way they look

1040
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: at it, like they told Aaron Rodgers before the mccarthur

1041
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: deal when he went in and said hey, what about

1042
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: this and what about that? And they told him you

1043
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: go play and we'll get players. But he never forgot that.

1044
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgersnell forgot that. So when his time came, he's like, okay,

1045
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: now what so now they listen to him. I think

1046
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson should be on that same level if he

1047
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: walked into your office and say, hey, coach, you know,

1048
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? What do you think

1049
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: about you should at least conversate with this guy. You

1050
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like hey man, players playing coaches coaching Scott

1051
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: Scott's because you know what, it don't always work that way.

1052
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: And the successful guys, I like the guys like Tom

1053
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Brady who learned how to do it and went to

1054
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: Green and went to Tampa Bay in his coach their

1055
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: head coach said, man, I let Tom take over some

1056
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: practices to a certain extent, because when you have a

1057
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Speaker 1: player with that dominance and that ability to know what

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Speaker 1: he wanted, what he needs from his receivers and running backs,

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Speaker 1: you gotta let him go. And if Russell has that

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Speaker 1: knowledge now and then and Aaron has that knowledge, and

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Speaker 1: let them go. I mean, you don't let them take

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Speaker 1: over your practice, but you have a segment way these

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Speaker 1: guys can be show their powers, you know, because they

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Speaker 1: do it on the field for you, why don't let

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Speaker 1: them do it in practice too. I think I think

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Speaker 1: you're seeing, Kurt. I think you're seeing a shift in

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Speaker 1: the way that the league is gonna look in the

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Speaker 1: coming years. You saw it in the NBA when players

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Speaker 1: started talking in the off season and they started creating

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Speaker 1: these super teams. I think what Jesse said, you're you're

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Speaker 1: starting to see and what Nate said, Your quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: getting so smart that they're running their own offense. They're

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Speaker 1: calling their own plays there. They have so much feedback

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Speaker 1: that the coaches are starting to let them run their

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Speaker 1: own kind of their own offense. I think they're realizing

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Speaker 1: the United States coming back. Yeah, And I feel like

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: they're starting to realize that, Hey, you know, if they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna help me win and give me what I need,

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Speaker 1: then I'll go somewhere that I can. I can do

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Speaker 1: what Brady's done. I think he's changed the way the

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Speaker 1: game's gonna look because now you're starting to hear you know,

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Speaker 1: Watson wanted out of where he's at. Now you're hearing

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I think it's gonna your elite quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that can go run an offense and run a team.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna start seeing ownership listen to these

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Speaker 1: guys and say, hey, come be my quarterback and I'll

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Speaker 1: give you more control. Hey, Aaron, you want out of

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, come here and I'll give you total control

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Speaker 1: of the offense within what the coach wants to do.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see that more and more. I

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: think this is a big gonna be a big deal

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Speaker 1: in the NFL in the coming year. So because wide

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Speaker 1: receivers couldn't push it to wed, it needed to be

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Speaker 1: done in the running backs. But quarterbacks, elite quarterback. Just

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: think we got thirty two teams, we got all these colleges,

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Speaker 1: and every year we still want to talk about one

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Speaker 1: or two quarterbacks coming out of the draft when there's

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Speaker 1: a plethor of other positions. But everybody's looking for one

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Speaker 1: elite quarterback that can take them to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Are you smiling as a coach to see this guy

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Speaker 1: in envision your game plan? Are you mad enough and

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Speaker 1: willing enough to adjust what you do so this quarterback

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Speaker 1: can take you to the next level. A lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches ain't willing to do that yet. Yep, fell us.

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Speaker 1: It has been fun. The hour goes by way too fast,

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Speaker 1: and it's not often enough. But you know what, before

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Speaker 1: we know it, we'll be back doing this thing daily

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Speaker 1: because the season will be upon us really quick. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait, especially to get this cold weather out of Dallas.

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Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be this cold in the South.

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Speaker 1: I love her. I've been hybernating, man, were so supporting.

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Speaker 1: Get now we seeing a liquor winner. All October, no November.

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Speaker 1: We had seventy degrees in December, seventy in January, we

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Speaker 1: get four or five days of a little bit cold.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, now we're done. This winner. We

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Speaker 1: just hate is I've been hibernating and they lost the time.

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Speaker 1: Most fairs hibernate lose weight a gainway. Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: your hybernated. You're supposed to stop eating Nate. That's how

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Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, you're right, You're right about hybernate. Me

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Speaker 1: eat more Nate, Jesse, Kurt, Chris Beef. Thanks for keeping

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Speaker 1: us on the air. We'll be back next Thursday, same time,

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty from Frisco or somewhere in the Metroplex. This

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Speaker 1: has been hanging with the boys, see you fellas,