WEBVTT - 11/05/20 HOUR 2- Matt Maiocco

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Welcome to the program already in progress. How

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<v Speaker 1>we're two on this Thursday Dan and the Dane's Stan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show. We question why this game is being played tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers in forty nine ers and maybe not move

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday. We've done it before on a Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see these teams as close to full

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<v Speaker 1>strength as possible. Obviously, the Niners have had more injuries

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<v Speaker 1>or lost players to more games due to injury than

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<v Speaker 1>any other team, and one hundred and twenty four not

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<v Speaker 1>even close. Next closest I think of the Philadelphia Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have this game coming up tonight. Packers don't

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<v Speaker 1>have running backs, the Niners don't have wide receivers, and

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<v Speaker 1>green Bay goes in. Green Bay used the rebounds after

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<v Speaker 1>they lose a game, and after losing to Minnesota, you

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<v Speaker 1>would expect them to win. What happens if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>win tonight? What happens if the Niners continue to run

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<v Speaker 1>the football at the Green Bay Packers. This was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those games where you looked at Thursday night and

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday Night became really attractive this week when the season

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<v Speaker 1>started because you got a rematch of the NFC title game.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers are favored by seven against the Niners. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>check in with the Niners coming up. Phone calls always welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>McLevin at the end of last hour said, interesting poll results.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the question should this game be played tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to guess that America once this game played tonight. McLevin,

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<v Speaker 1>you are correct. Seventy eight percent say yes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. It's not fair you're not seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>real Niners. Well, I think if you're an NFL fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying I'd rather see a watered down version of

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<v Speaker 1>these two teams than no football tonight. Now, you do

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<v Speaker 1>have college football tonight Utah State, Nevada, Wyoming, and Colorado State.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I would like to see both of these

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<v Speaker 1>teams as close to full strength as possible, you're you've

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<v Speaker 1>lost some marquee players. You know, Garoppolo is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing due to an ankle injury and not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be playing for quite some time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to if if it meant moving to Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>or Monday, would that be a more fair approach to

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<v Speaker 1>this game? That That would be the only question I

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<v Speaker 1>had for the NFL. Yes, poet, as mclems say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair. It's not fair to the Niners, are not

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<v Speaker 1>fair to us as consumers. I don't think it's fair

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<v Speaker 1>to either team. Like the Packers are going out there

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<v Speaker 1>without any running back. But their their behavior, their decisions

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<v Speaker 1>got them to where they are, or whatever they did

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or right, you know, into what the protocols got

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<v Speaker 1>them to where they are. They're both in the same boat. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that you were doing something they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done. You could have come in contact with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>here and it's not your fault. No, But I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they they you know, the NFL is being fair

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<v Speaker 1>to those two teams and scheduling when they are. They're

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<v Speaker 1>both in a jam. It's not like there's not an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman to be had. Well, why did they move

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots game a couple of weeks ago? I think

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<v Speaker 1>they had more flexibility a couple of weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>mclevann's in the first hour. They don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>two backed up here if they don't have to. Yeah, McClellan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's night and day. The difference for

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<v Speaker 1>the Niner who cares about running back. It's twenty twenty NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Packers are much less handicapped the Niners.

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<v Speaker 1>They know no receivers. Trent Williams is out and they're

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<v Speaker 1>already without their started quarterback and the best players George Kittle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a disaster. Yeah, I just think it's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>look for the NFL. The NFL wants to put a

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<v Speaker 1>good product out there, not hey, we're just gonna Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's test Americans see if they'll watch any kind of football. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>they did, And that's what's gonna happen tonight. Bass Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Shops Cabella's your flannel destination for the whole family this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>You go in, they you know, when you go in

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<v Speaker 1>and you buy a Christmas tree, they got all the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas trees stacked up. That's what it feels like when

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<v Speaker 1>you go into bass Pro Shops, all of the flannel

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<v Speaker 1>that's there, It's like a forest of flannels. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you go in there now Flannel Fest at retail locations

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<v Speaker 1>across North America. Shop the current flannel deals in store

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<v Speaker 1>or online. This caught my attention. Sham's Sharania. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a great NBA insider. He says that quote. I'm told

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and pursue James Harden.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a report that Harden moving from Houston, or

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<v Speaker 1>Houston would move on from him, is currently a non starter.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I started to think, well, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get hardened Ben Simmons and Joe lmb if you're Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you could have Ben Simmons and throw

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody else for James Harden. Would you do that, Philadelphia?

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<v Speaker 1>I get why they would want to do this, But

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Rivers just got there, and I thought all along,

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<v Speaker 1>Doc just wanted to see those two together, Ben Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe l embiid and see what they could do with

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<v Speaker 1>that roster. Now they're in cap purgatory because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias Harris makes almost as much as James Harden does.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a problem. Tobias Harris nice player. James Harden is

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<v Speaker 1>a first ballot Hall of Famer. Now, if you said

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<v Speaker 1>I could trade Tobias Harris for James Harden, I would

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<v Speaker 1>do that right now. But you got to dump some

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<v Speaker 1>salary here. You got Al Horford at a hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. Yes, yes, the Al Horford deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I if I'm Doc Rivers and I could

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<v Speaker 1>bring James Harden to the East with Joe lmbid. It's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because when you play with Harden, you watch hard

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I don't know if Joe lmbiad is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be keen on that Ben Simmons doesn't shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like Ben Simmons and James Harden. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>makes more sense. One shoots, one doesn't. One is a slasher.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Ben Simmons can get to the rim. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a good defensive player. I would get rid of Joe

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<v Speaker 1>lmbiid and I would keep Ben Simmons if I could

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<v Speaker 1>get James Harden. Now, I don't know if Houston went

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<v Speaker 1>to entertained that. If I'm Houston, we're not gonna win anything,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know we still have a team that people

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in watching. James Harden is must see TV.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is you can't trade Russell Westbrook Junior the

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<v Speaker 1>third because that contract and his age. He still can't shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>And in today's NBA now he's a liability. He wants

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot, where Ben Simmons doesn't want to shoot. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is Russ he thinks he can shoot. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I have if I have James Harden and Ben Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Ben will be. He'll do other things and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to handle the ball. He can and

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<v Speaker 1>he is great. You know, if you get him full court,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes downhill, he can get to the hoop and

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say, look, I want you to concentrate

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<v Speaker 1>on doing all these other things. Now, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Houston trades James Harden. I wouldn't, but if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get Joe ellen Bead and something, I guess I would

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<v Speaker 1>entertain it. But you can't trade Westbrook. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and pursue

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden the we're interested in, but now you're pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>that got my attention. With Cham's with his report, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Pauli al Horford's thirty four years old, the forward for

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy six ers. He's averaging about eleven and seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what he's getting paid the next four seasons twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight million, twenty eight million, twenty eight million, twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>million guarunteed no way out. What is Tobias Harris making?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he make like thirty five million dollars a year? Yeah? Mclo.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that Sixer's view, Embiad is the untouchable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would do embiid for Harden because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the most talented big men ever, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's something there, you know, siwise scares something there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I get with James Harden. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I have with Joe ll embad because there

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<v Speaker 1>are games where you go, God, is he talented? But

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like each week I'm seeing a different

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<v Speaker 1>Joe l Embiid. I'm not quite sure, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he I don't know if he gets along with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons. I don't want to say he doesn't, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like there's a lack of chemistry there. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I have embiid in Houston, but then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how Westbrook would would react to something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, they went all in to get Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston. They traded away their future to get Westbrook there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sixers, Tobias Harris next four seasons thirty three million,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six million, thirty nine million, forty one million guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it amazing that the NBA has this deal or

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<v Speaker 1>had these deals where you have guys that you would

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<v Speaker 1>not watch if they were playing in your driveway. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you You wouldn't. Is it raining out? No? Okay, May,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably watch if Tobias Harris was in my driveway,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was shooting hoops in your driveway uniform. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else on TV? Mac Macoto, good point.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd take a peek for a couple of minutes. I

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<v Speaker 1>would just look the blinders, I would. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>take a peek see his shooting form. That's yet. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, I met his dad, you know, had had

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<v Speaker 1>to sat down how to drink with his dad. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it was his dad. And we're watching when we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the Los Angeles, I'm at the bar, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he's in there watching his son, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. And we struck up conversation and I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked him with the Clippers, but I don't really like

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<v Speaker 1>him for thirty eight forty million dollars crazy, told Bias

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<v Speaker 1>Harris or throw out any of these guys. John Wall,

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<v Speaker 1>for God's sakes, is gonna make forty seven million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what is that next year? If John Wall

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<v Speaker 1>was in the man Cave right now and said you

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<v Speaker 1>want to shoot some hoops, I don't know if I would.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a little pick up. No, yeah, see, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're not being truthful. That's not true. I would go

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<v Speaker 1>out just to see a shooting for him, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd tell him, I would critique it. You know, your

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<v Speaker 1>handles are a little spotty, but these salaries are crazy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the only what you always always talked about Tobias

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<v Speaker 1>Harris back when he was I tranked him when he

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<v Speaker 1>was if I could get him for twelve million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I really loved Tobias Harris came in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you mean Gary Harris. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know who you're talking about. He's gonna if

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<v Speaker 1>you say he is paid thirty eight million dollars at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, it's gonna be eighteen percent less of that

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight million. Now it's more of a bargain. Yeah, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the face of it always Alan Krab though, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>poor Alan Krab, he's a new John Koncak. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Bully Chris Paul is making thirty eight million this upcoming season.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty eight million. I know he's still a good player. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry's making thirty five, Blake Griffin's making thirty five mil.

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias Harris is the tenth highest paid player in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire NBA. He makes more than Jimmy Butler, Kawhi, Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>Clay Thompson, Gordon Hayward's making thirty three million. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Millsap's making thirty one million. I mean it's it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you you have this tea the deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and you only have to pay a certain number of players,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why you have these exorbitant salaries. Man Otto

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior's making twenty nine million, and rightfully so, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me what team he's one? Went and out

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<v Speaker 1>A wizard that's always by the way, Alcraft made eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>point five last year. I know he's a margin, and

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<v Speaker 1>at eighteen million dollars a year. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a team now though, just the man. That's what what

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<v Speaker 1>is John Wall gonna make at the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>uh salary or this contract? Forty seven million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's correct. He's two years away from God.

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Barnes has made a solid living for himself. If

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Barnes was outside shooting hoops, I would not go

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<v Speaker 1>outside fair, I just I wouldn't. No offense, no offense, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no offense. Yeah, no offense. You're just saying you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk fifty feet to watch him. No, Oh, you thought

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<v Speaker 1>I said no offense. It was no offense. Big difference there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>with club Harrison Barnes, I would think, is he a Maverick? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That guy jumps around a lot. Let's play the Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Barnes even more. Anonymous. Okay, Paul, I want to guess Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, sac Is that where he is? Still? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I watched my Sacramento Kings, give you a good

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<v Speaker 1>SID eighteen and seven. I even watched the Sacramento Kings

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't remember Harrison Barnes being on the Sacramento Kings.

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<v Speaker 1>He has ton if he has you to shoot around

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<v Speaker 1>right outside they Now I'm good. You'd say maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>other time, who knows what he's gonna be back in

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<v Speaker 1>town to the Connecticut even if I haven't gotten my nap,

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<v Speaker 1>then no, I'm not going to go outside and play.

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<v Speaker 1>But but if you how many players would you truly

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<v Speaker 1>sit and watch in a game? If I said you

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<v Speaker 1>got to watch a game, how many players would you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? In the NBA? Yeah? See, am I already

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<v Speaker 1>in the city or do I have to travel to it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just watching on TV. Are you just watching on TV? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make it easy on you. When I turned the

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<v Speaker 1>TV out, is the channel already on that game? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it on another game and have to switch channels? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there for you. So you turn the TV on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's already on. Now you have to choose to turn

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<v Speaker 1>away from it. Yes? Am I allowed to go one

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<v Speaker 1>time through the channels and then come back. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go through the guide. No, early season, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to watch an entire game of Kyrie Irving and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant yet with the nets. Okay, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>my if there was all the games on for the

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<v Speaker 1>first day of the NBA season and that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the games, that's a game I would lock on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but how many players would you actually tune in to

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<v Speaker 1>watch a game? Yes? Mc wait, nobody in this room

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<v Speaker 1>watch Kyrie with what team was you on last year

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<v Speaker 1>where he played like thirty games with the nets? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a mustoon after the those two together. The

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<v Speaker 1>most boring guy there is, He's not much watch either.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at eighteen foot jumper. I wat Zion left all

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<v Speaker 1>Zion all day? Okay, okay, so Zion is one we

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<v Speaker 1>can all agree on. Net Luca Dunn, Chick, the return

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<v Speaker 1>of Steph Curry, James Harden. Now you gotta watch the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole game. Oh no, no, no, not James Harden.

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<v Speaker 1>I know if I watched the first two minutes, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the whole game, twenty seven foul shots. Okay. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather watch videos of James Harden dancing on the bench

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<v Speaker 1>than I would actually. Okay, that's a lot of How

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<v Speaker 1>about Trey Young? Anybody interested? Yes? Time like Trey Any

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<v Speaker 1>love for Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell after what they

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<v Speaker 1>did in the bubble or you're not going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the time, not a whole game, Donovan Mitchell, really good player,

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<v Speaker 1>not watching the whole game. Yeah, you're gonna watch Lamello.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling everyone they're gonna watch LaMelo because of his

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<v Speaker 1>dad and all the hype and ESPN is gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>him into a star. Okay, they couldn't turn Lonzo into

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<v Speaker 1>a star, but he's different the Lonzo. He's been famous

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. But why would you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>kid because of his dad, because he's like the news

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Yeah, but they're gonna have a camera

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<v Speaker 1>on his dad while the kids playing, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>see them at this neame awareness. I mean, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>curious to start the season with Lamello. I will be. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Point the problem with LaMelo Ball he's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of Zion Zion. We saw thirty one national TV

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<v Speaker 1>games at Duke and he became Brandon what he could

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<v Speaker 1>do now. I want to see this at the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>LaMelo Ball is a guy who's more mystery. He's playing

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<v Speaker 1>in Lithuania against uh, you know, a bunch of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's seen him play except for YouTube, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>he's different. He's a mystery, but it's not. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>hot like Zion was. Yeah, I mean Zion was already established.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a brand before he got to the NBA. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Mc LaMelo has five point six million Instagram followers. Well great,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's huge. He's an international star already. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, yeah, he's got the name. When you

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<v Speaker 1>see an international star, will he be a national star?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, But dame another, No one's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tuted for Anthony Edwards. No, they're not, or James Wiseman.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I you know, we were talking about established players.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll turn in. I'll tune in to see Lebron Lebron, definitely.

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't turn into tune in to see Kawai. Kawai's boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes to Jimmy Butler. Not a whole game, yes, this moment, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would tune in. I would. I would include his

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<v Speaker 1>entire team. I loved watching the Heat this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would that might be played out right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>got moved on Tyler, Hero and Duncan Robinson gore drog

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<v Speaker 1>Bam out of Bio. I like the whole team. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not tuning in to see Jimmy Butler, Just Jimmy Button.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch the entire game. It's it's not one

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<v Speaker 1>of those Hey, I'm gonna watch first quarter, first half,

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<v Speaker 1>watch the highlights. You don't get that luxury like the

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<v Speaker 1>Greek freak. You tuning in to watch the Greek freak.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred van Vliet, Pascal Siakam Yes, Jason Tatum, a young guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like who really captures your imagination? Where you go? God,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to watch this. You're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the season. Are we're showing Lucas on the

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<v Speaker 1>must watch list next year? He's kind of a slog

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<v Speaker 1>to watch, a slog. He's a twenty foul shot, a

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<v Speaker 1>game guy too. He's got a lot of hardened I

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably gotten to the level of you plug in numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're not seeing anything that's amazing, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the reason why that there was a fascination

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<v Speaker 1>or a brief fascination, is he hit that shot against

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers and it was like, oh my God, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he put up these incredible numbers, and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Clippers were trying to taunt him and rough

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<v Speaker 1>him up. Then it became really interesting to see how

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to handle that. But you're right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Luca. If you say Luca's going to go twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>nine and nine this year, it'll be a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games where you go, oh my god, you see that

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<v Speaker 1>triple double Steph Curry Stills, you know Musty too. There's

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<v Speaker 1>probably Damian Lillard. I would watch Damian Lillard. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a club for a guy like Luca wins a championship though,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very very possible that that makes him must

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<v Speaker 1>watch in a way. Right. I don't think Dirk was

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<v Speaker 1>must see TV and they won a title. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just certain players that are really good. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't there's no tune in factor there. Yes, Hume Joker

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<v Speaker 1>is very much like that. He's good athletic for a

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, but he's not someone you want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>for fourton wor maybe not even two quarters. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy that I want to see highlights of

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll look at the box score. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a Chris bounced pass, backdoor pass. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice. I just I'm a busy guy. I got

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<v Speaker 1>other things to do. But This is a weird conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll text you in on a Tuesday night different

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<v Speaker 1>and you're watching the SEC Kings against Charlotte. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a sickness. You almost didn't feel like it's a duty?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you said duty. Yeah, yes, yes, Tudd, I went

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<v Speaker 1>duty and went to Hey Todd, I saw you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. Oh I think you had something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a jumping on me a duty comment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Tod. All right, so we'll check in with

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers. Should this game be played tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we staying with that pole question? McLevin? We have

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<v Speaker 1>some other options. We could go into the well you

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<v Speaker 1>just asked, who would you rather have Ben Simmons or

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden thirty one versus twenty three? Well, but you

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have to ask that from the Sixers with James Harden

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<v Speaker 1>or the Rockets, Like are you asking if you're the Rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want Ben Simmons or James Harden. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting from the Sixers standpoint because they have a

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<v Speaker 1>new coach and you know, I mean, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to throw that up there. Or we could get into

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<v Speaker 1>the Whoshia tank who like I'm curious like the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you not tank? But who should? Because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a really talented rookie wide receiver and they have

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<v Speaker 1>Delvin Cook. I don't know if they can tank unless

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<v Speaker 1>they replace Kirk d Cousins. But I you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a great team, but they do have If you

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<v Speaker 1>say these are the building blocks, we got a legit

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<v Speaker 1>running back and a legit wide receiver. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>theeland's not there much longer. Maybe you're looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end down the road. Is Mike Zimmer the right

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<v Speaker 1>coach for this team as you move forward? Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know those things, but I can't see the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>tanking with those two guys in the lineup. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>here from Antonio Brown coming up in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break back after this in The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>We got some phone calls coming up. I'll get to those.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight seven seven three DP show. Dallas Cowboys are thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half point underdogs against the Pittsburgh Steelers. The

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<v Speaker 1>over under is forty two for entertainment purposes only. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have yet to cover the spread in their first

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<v Speaker 1>eight games of the season. They have failed to cover

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<v Speaker 1>buy an average of ten points per game, and they

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<v Speaker 1>could be the first team in modern NFL history to

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<v Speaker 1>start oh and nine versus the spread. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a big number. Pittsburgh, by the way, six and one

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<v Speaker 1>record against the spread, and their games have hit the

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<v Speaker 1>over in five out of seven opportunities this season, Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>averaging twenty three points they surrender thirty three points. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Dallas has not scored a touchdown in two games.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, everything's fine here. You got the game

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<v Speaker 1>coming up tonight. I wonder why it's being played, but

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers insider for NBC Sports Bay Area

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<v Speaker 1>will have better answers than I do. Matt Mayoko, who's

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<v Speaker 1>in his twenty sixth year covering the forty nine Ers, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us. Why are they playing this game? Tonight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the NFL, and the NFL can do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the heck it wants, and they want to play football

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday night. Hey Dan, some late breaking news here.

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<v Speaker 1>My colleague at NBC Sports by Area, Jennifer lee Chan,

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<v Speaker 1>reports that there were no positive test results from the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers, and even the player who tested positive yesterday,

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Bourne, tested negative. So those players won't be available

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<v Speaker 1>to play in tonight's game. Had it been a Sunday game,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be able to play. But that might give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit indication there too, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't, at least at this point, believe that there's

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<v Speaker 1>some outbreak going on with the forty nine ers. Have

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<v Speaker 1>they been able to practice? They had a practice win

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night, and then after the building was cleared last night,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a very brief walk through. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday game, and so generally teams don't do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of practicing before a Thursday game, but they did

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<v Speaker 1>their meetings on Zoom yesterday and then a very brief

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<v Speaker 1>get together for a walk through last night. We see

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<v Speaker 1>this with teams that go to the Super Bowl lose

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl there's a super Bowl hangover. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you explain what's happened to the Niners this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what you know, speaking from experience, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had a hangover anything like what the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers are experiencing. I mean, we're talking, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you can put it on the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there might have been a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a mindset, you know, going into this season, of hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get back to the Super Bowl win at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, which isn't really I don't think the mindset

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<v Speaker 1>you want. But when you're talking about twelve players on

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>injured reserve, and those are significant players, two more will

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>be going on Jimmy Garoppolo and George Kittle, you have

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 1>two players on the PUP list, four players on the

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen list. So when you look at the team

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's suiting up tonight, theoretically suiting up tonight, compared to

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the team that played the Packers in the NFC Championship game,

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>it bears no resemblance. So you can't necessarily expect, you know,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a team without Richard Sherman, without Nick Bosa, without DeForrest

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Buckner who was traded away without Garoppolo, Kittle, without their

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>top three running backs. I mean, I could go on

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>and on and on. You can't expect a team like that,

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.919
<v Speaker 1>compared to what the team looked like last year, to

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>just pick right up and steamroll through the NFC. So

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>there are four and four right now, which puts them

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in the race. But I just don't know who they're

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna You know, they're gonna be relying on Nick Mullins

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and Jamichael Hasty tonight and Ross Dwelli at tight end,

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys you've never heard of. So you

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely need a program tonight, even if you're a Niners fan. Yes,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at some point I will be posting like a list

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter of numbers and players because I mean myself included.

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>But they're all a lot of fans tuning in who

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>have no idea who might be touching the ball. And

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>another added element of this, not one player from that

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship game who touched the ball for the forty

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>nine ers on offense will be suiting up tonight other

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>than that center, by the way, that includes the center.

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>When Garoppolo is good, is he great? Can he be great?

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I think when he's good. He's good, you know, And

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the issue I think with him is, man,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what, if you're talking about going forward for

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>next season with a cap that's going down, with a

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>salary expected to be you know, he'll be twenty five

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>million next year. You know, I just I don't look

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>at him right now. Is that player as a quarterback

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>who enables Kyle Shanahan to just say, oh, this is great.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>He does all the things I need him to do

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and more so we can put more on his play.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's kind of I mean, just look at

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs last year, where you know, he wasn't asked

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to throw, and in that MC championship game he only

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>dropped back eight times. So I think there's an element

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of the forty nine ers offense of running the ball,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>running the ball, running the ball, And that's a lot

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>by necessity, because you know, I just don't know that

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>he's the kind of quarterback he just put it on

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>his shoulders. I mean Dan Frankly at the end of

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the twenty seventeen season, when he had been with the

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>team for just a couple of weeks and he stepped

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>into the lineup and played some really good football in

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers had a bad team that year.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>They had only had one win up to that point.

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>They end up winning the final five games of the season.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>That Jimmy Garoppolo is a heck of a lot like

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the Jimmy Garoppolo that we saw last year, and even

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>with the healthy games this year. My point being that

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>with Kyle Shanahan, he would expect his quarterback to go

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.479
<v Speaker 1>like Matt Ryan, you know, like good one year and

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>then great the next. That maturation, that improvement we never

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>saw from Jimmy Garoppolo. If I said to Kyle Shanahan,

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you can trade Jimmy Garoppolo straight up for Matt Ryan,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that deal's made. Yeah. And I'd even go

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>so far as to say Kirk Cousins. I mean, wow,

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Kyle lights Kirk Cousins. You know, Kyle had his mindset

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>on Kirk Cousins getting him as a free agent for

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty eighteen season, and then Bill Belichick basically gift

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>wrapped Garoppolo. And I mean, Jimmy's Jimmy's a good player.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>He had a good season last year, but he just

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't taken that next step and you know, some

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of it. You can. You can place on the injury

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 1>issue this year, two different high ankle sprains. But I

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>just don't know that that he functions and Kyle Shanahan's

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>offense way Shannahan wants him to function. I know you're

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. If Antonio Brown

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>did not come back and play football, how would the

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame selection committee view Antonio Brown's career. That's

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a good question. Um, you know we would. Certainly I

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>would look at it based on who he's up against. Uh,

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at there's so many guys out there.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't I wouldn't consider him a slam dunk. But

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. You know we would as a group. Well,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I should only speak for myself. I wouldn't look at

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>any of the off the field stuff and the craziness

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that's happened over the past couple of years. He's a

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>heck of a player. But you're not supposed to factor

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that in. No, No, you're not. You could factor it

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in from the sense that he left a lot of football,

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, on his couch because he didn't make himself

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>available to play because of off the field stuff. I

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>think that that's an area, a little bit of a

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>gray area there. But quitting on a team, I mean,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and you guys have a tough job. I

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>get it. But you know, like t O Michael Irvin,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you do things off the field that

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>affects your team on the field, then I have to

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>account for that. Yeah, And I think you could make

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that same argument with Antonio Brown, right, that he's done

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff that has affected teams. So, I mean, it's it's

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>down the road. I don't necessarily like to look at

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>guys in say, oh he's a you know, he's a

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>first ballot Hall of Famer. There are a couple of

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>guys who are. But remember now we can only elect

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>five modern era candidates every year. So unless you're Tom Brady,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, or Aaron Rodgers or you know your name

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Famer today, I would think so, yeah,

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I would think so. I mean, I can't guarantee he's

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a first ballot Hall of Famer. I think I was

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit surprised. Not so yeah, A little bit surprised,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>as say, Jason Taylor and Brian Urlocker were first ballot

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Hall of famers, But you know they got in, they

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>were going to get an eventually. I'm not saying that

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>they weren't Hall of famers, but when you start looking

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>at that, I think where it's it's changed in recent

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>years is that there used to be this queue. Right, Well,

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy's waited long enough. He's a Hall of Famer,

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>he deserves to get in, and now it's just like,

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, plug him in, get him in there. Now.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>What's the craziest argument you ever heard? Oh, when you're

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in the room, you know what. I don't know that

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I've heard anything. It's pretty it's pretty straightforward. It doesn't

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>get heated. Oh yeah, he gets heated. Dan. My first

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>year on I made the case for terall Owens and

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it got heated. It got heated to the point that

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>some of my friends were in that room were coming

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>up to me afterward and like saying, hey, sorry about that.

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So I don't you can't take it personally, but oh no,

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it gets heated, but it gets it. Last year, I

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think he got heated at all. It's kind of

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. It's those kind of polarizing candidates

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>where people really take a stand one way or the other.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>But through most of it you can kind of you know,

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>last year, I don't know that there was any negativity

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>in that room. It was just that, hey, you know,

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy's great, but we like this guy better. I

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>mean there was I don't recall anyone just going after

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a candidate last year or even the last couple of years.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So most of it is very positive because all the

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>guys in that room are there for a reason. Julian Edelman,

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough one. I don't know. I think that

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that one, that one might take a while. I just

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know that he's had the the you know, the career,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the regular season career, the numbers. I mean if you

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>look at the postseason. But has somebody ever gone into

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame and not been a Pro Bowl player? Yeah?

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Yeah, would you rather have Julian

0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Edelman's career or Calvin Johnson who made more money? Calvin Johnson? Yes,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so you think that. I mean I think probably Calvin Johnson.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And he's up, I believe this year. He's he's a

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>first ballot candidate this year. But he's a tough one too,

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>because you know, when you get into like I thought

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Willis had a strong case to at least be

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in the top fifteen his first year. I mean basically

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>every year he played in the league. He was a

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he was an All Pro player, he was a Pro

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Bowl player. He didn't even make it into the top

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>fifteen his first year. So you know, then you start

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about Luke Keikley. You know, Luke Keakley and Patrick Willis.

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>There's not a whole lot to separate those two. And

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I would put Calvin Johnson in that same category where

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for a short period of time, very very dominant. And

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>along those lines, Tony BASSELLI I mean Tony bassellis shorter careers,

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>probably even than those guys. But you're talking about a

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>premium position left tackle. Those guys are hard to find.

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>You know. It seems like more guards are in than

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>tackles because guards can stay in that position, shouldn't play

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and be in the Pro Bowl twelve years a left tackle.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Those guys are so difficult to find that if you

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>can get a guy playing at a high, high level

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>for four or five six years, you really have to

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>consider them for the Hall of Fame. Philip Rivers, I

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>think so, yeah, I think eventually again, you can't say

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>first ballot, but I would say that there are so

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>many guys that we could tick through. I was just

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking the other day about all the tight ends that

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>are out there and in you guys who are in

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that that queue, right, or guys who are going to

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>be coming through there. But position Matt, when you look

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>at as a voter, the toughest position to assess now

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>with today's numbers and who is a Hall of Famer

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and who's not? Well, I do think wide receiver is

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>getting more difficult. I think that the most difficult I

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>think positions to assess are kind of the grunt work positions.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you how do you grade a guard?

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, a center, a left tackle, right tackle? How

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>about the defensive tackles? I mean, so much is put

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>onto sacks. If you're a defensive lineman, well, you can

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely be a Hall of Fame player and not have

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a hundred sacks. And so those are the positions where

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't compare apples to apples. That makes

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>it difficult. Then when you start comparing different guys at

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>different positions to those grunt work guys who you don't

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>have a staff for that. That's where it becomes really difficult. Yeah,

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I figured running back because it used to be you

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>got to ten thousand yards and you became a Hall

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of Famer. Now, you know, we have these hybrids. I

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>thought Fred Taylor might be a Hall of Famer. I

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>thought Ricky Waters deserved to be in the Hall of Fame.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Waters was sort of the forerunner to what it

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>is today's running back. Now it was great pass catcher,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>ran for you know, Tike Barber on the cusp there

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I don't know how to assess those

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>numbers or how will assess those numbers at running back

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>in the in the coming years. Yeah, and of course

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know I cover the forty nine ers. So people here,

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you know Roger Craig, you know, why isn't he in

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame. You know, he was. He was

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a finalist with the Blue Ribbon Committee last year as

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they kind of expanded the Hall of Fame class. But

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean talking about a guy there that that played fullback,

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>played half back, passes out of the backfield, and he

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the guy that enabled Bill Walsh told

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>do everything he wanted from that offense. So yeah, no,

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a it's very difficult. Um and

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I have my one vote and and you throw it

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in there and you see what comes out the other side.

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you getting up and uh sharing this information

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>with this mat have fun tonight and uh we hope

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to have you on again. Thank you very much. All right, Dan,

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thank you. Matt Mayoko, he's forty Nindres Insider,

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>NBC Sports Bay Area. Oh. I love the reaction on

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the other side when it was like, yeah, JJ, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not first bound. PAULI got up out of his chair

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<v Speaker 1>and there this guy new here easy there all. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when I said, Edelman, that's gonna be a tough one,

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<v Speaker 1>I went, is it? Is it a tough one? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Peacock app. It's nice to have a golf

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<v Speaker 1>simulator when you go to work. Part of your work

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<v Speaker 1>is I get to shoot hoops. I have barbecue, pinball,

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<v Speaker 1>golf simulator, got my callaway clubs. I have the Part

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<v Speaker 1>three seventh at Pebble Beach. Man. One of these days

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<v Speaker 1>when I get rid of the dana As so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have this place to myself. It'll be awesome. It'll be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs in Virginia, Hey Gibbs, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Gibbs. Oh, like you're on speaker I can't hear

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<v Speaker 1>you very well. Sorry to bother you. Sorry to bother you, Gibbs,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't sound very good. Danny. Can you hear me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, spit it out, Gibbs. You got me on

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<v Speaker 1>headset or speaker phone? Here my bad, Danny. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a question for you. I'm going down to Ponto Dedra

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<v Speaker 1>Beach today, going to play TPC Sawgrass tomorrow morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>want a couple of tips around the course. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>down for one of my best friends from law school's wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to mclovin, not exactly out of his spinch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a question for you about the world's

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<v Speaker 1>largest cocktail party. Okay, it's a four o'clock wedding. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I try to attend the tailgate before the wedding? If

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<v Speaker 1>I do, do I have to show up in full

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<v Speaker 1>tuxedo in wedding garb. Okay, how far is it from

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<v Speaker 1>the tailgate to the wedding? I think Panavidra is probably

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<v Speaker 1>I've looked at it on the map, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say probably I've looked at it on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie about twenty minutes maybe twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>with traffic. Are you a groomsman? I'm not so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god I'm not. Then you're good. Just just go

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. Nobody cares like they're not gonna go. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>where's Gibbs? Like, Well, I'm pretty popular, not popular enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be a groomsman? Well wow wow easy mclovian. Yeah, Seed,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be more popular forgot his phone to work at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the call. Yeahs yeah, yeah. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is uh. The man that McLevin referred to is

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly out of Kaus Finch. He's a lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>a construction company. Good luck, Gibbs. We're all counting on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The step above working the waste disposal business, h Gibbs,

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<v Speaker 1>it made it sound like I called him and I

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<v Speaker 1>was interrupting his day where he's trying to get on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get his phone together. Let me see what

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<v Speaker 1>do we have here? Uh? Dave in Indiana? Hi, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today? Him? Die Hard bear fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of frosted me. I have to even ask

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<v Speaker 1>this that. Um, do you think the NFL would let

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<v Speaker 1>the game go on tonight if Aaron Rodgers was on

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID list? We have Nicky Mullins versus him, boyle,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the backup? I think it's a great question, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I do Fritzie, why didn't you see if? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Chef would answer that or could answer that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who we could ask if Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>was somehow on the COVID list, would they be playing

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<v Speaker 1>this game? Let's just ask me, because I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>you they're not. They wouldn't. That's a toughie, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>No Aaron Rodgers. Oh man, you know, let's let's move

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<v Speaker 1>it to I don't who is the backup? Boil? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so? He sounds like he's a Boston College quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yes, mcclemen, Well, they'd probably go to like

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<v Speaker 1>election coverage and be like they'd say they want to

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<v Speaker 1>rip the bandit, get that game out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Ricky Waters occasionally and people look at me

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<v Speaker 1>like Ricky Waters. Ricky Waters was a great running back,

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<v Speaker 1>not good great, most consecutive seasons with at least fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards from scrimmage, receiving and rushing all time, most

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive Ladanian. Tomlinson did it eight times, Ricky Waters did

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<v Speaker 1>it seven, Walter Payton six, Jim Brown five, Emmett Smith five,

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sanders five. Ricky Waters was a great player who's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go in the Hall of Fame. One

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<v Speaker 1>more item we close out the second hour. Simply saved