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Speaker 1: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me put a little, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: bow on this. Ewon Omar sprayed with an apple cider

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Speaker 1: vinegar spray. Do not spray anyone with apple cider vinegar

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Speaker 1: or any other object. Buck and I will be very,

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Speaker 1: very disappointed if you are involved in anything of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Pray.

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Speaker 1: He's the man who did that has been arrested, and

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Speaker 1: the individual who did it, according to President Trump, likely

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Speaker 1: was doing it to try and this according to ABC

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Speaker 1: News interview, likely doing it to potentially as a false flag.

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Speaker 2: For lack of a better way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: You heard Buck and I discuss that at the end

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Speaker 1: of the hour, I would co sign with him. This

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Speaker 1: man is either crazily insane or or he was engaged

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Speaker 1: in a surreptitious act which I would imagine will come

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Speaker 1: out to try to make elon Omar look like a victim.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only two false flag operations. Yes, those

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Speaker 1: are the only two options. I think Buck is right

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Speaker 1: about that. I can't imagine anyone else making the decision

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Speaker 1: to do this, and unless some of you can come

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Speaker 1: up with some explanation. Even the apple cider vinegar spray.

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Speaker 1: I don't even see that as having any sort of

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Speaker 1: message in any way. So apple cider vinegar. The HASMAT

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Speaker 1: team has analyzed it. I will say, Buck, she did

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Speaker 1: not seem bothered by the incident very much. She continued

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Speaker 1: on with her speech. Do not disrupt anyone who is

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Speaker 1: speaking for any reason. We believe in the First Amendment here.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that this is already largely fading is

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Speaker 1: a sign that I think most people are recognizing this

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Speaker 1: is either an insane man or there is some sort

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Speaker 1: of action that is actually in some way designed to

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Speaker 1: try to create sympathy for her. So that story is

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Speaker 1: out there. I wanted to play this for you, Buck.

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is emblematic of people on the left who

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Speaker 1: only consume left winging media. And I'm fired up about

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Speaker 1: this because I do think culturally this has a substantial impact.

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Speaker 1: And you might be saying, Okay, Clay, what are you

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Speaker 1: talking about. Steve Kerr is the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. A lot of people out there will

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Speaker 1: know him who are basketball fans because he played on

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Speaker 1: the second Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Three Peete.

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Speaker 1: Back in the nineties, he was the shooting guard, white guy,

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Speaker 1: blonde hair, if you remember that era of the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: He's been a basketball coach for a long time. He's

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Speaker 1: been the Golden State War Year's coach for a very

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Speaker 1: long time as well. And he is a strident left

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Speaker 1: wing political figure who is often wrong and outspoken on

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Speaker 1: many of his positions. But I just want you to

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Speaker 1: listen to what he said. Now, some of you are

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Speaker 1: gonna say, Okay, why does this happen, Clay, The NBA

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Speaker 1: mandates and the NBA teams mandate that coaches appear for

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Speaker 1: press conferences before and after games to answer questions from

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Speaker 1: the news media.

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Speaker 2: So this is a.

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Speaker 1: Golden State war your NBA sponsored event. This is significant

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Speaker 1: to me because it isn't a situation Buck where you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with, you know, a guy on his own social

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Speaker 1: media account saying whatever his political opinions are. This is

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Speaker 1: an NBA sponsored, Golden State Warrior sponsored event. And I

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Speaker 1: want you to listen to how wrong Steve Kerr is.

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Speaker 1: Let's play that cut.

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Speaker 3: This should be an appeal to your better angels to

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Speaker 3: look after one another and to recognize what's happening, are

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Speaker 3: being divided by the media for profit, by misinformation. There's

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Speaker 3: so much out there that is really difficult for all

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Speaker 3: to in times like these, you have to lean on

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that was yesterday buck Steve Kerr decrying misinformation

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Speaker 1: out there and how difficult it can be to figure

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Speaker 1: out what's actually going on. Here is Steve Kerr last night.

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Speaker 1: That was two nights ago, Steve Kerr deciding to opine

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Speaker 1: on misinformation. Here is Steve Kerr saying that all that's

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Speaker 1: happening now is five year olds are being arrested by

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Speaker 3: Other's throats right now, And you know you can't just

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Speaker 3: say I'm right, the other person's wrong. Not with in

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Speaker 3: this current climate of NonStop news flooding at US news,

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Speaker 3: it's hard to decipher what's real and what's not, what's

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Speaker 2: No, that happened.

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Speaker 3: It is a confusing time to be alive and to

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Speaker 1: I think that was a similar cut what I wanted

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Speaker 1: to play, And I don't know if we have it. Guys,

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Speaker 1: that ICE is out there arresting five year olds and

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Speaker 1: also arresting American citizens. Okay, we're gonna have that cut

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Speaker 1: in a second, we'll play it for you. So that

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Speaker 1: was Steve Carter crying misinformation all these things. But why

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Speaker 1: the cut for you of Kur saying all ICE is

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Speaker 1: doing is arresting five year olds and American citizens. And

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Speaker 1: this does influence the culture in a substantial way, and

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Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately it's one reason why there is opposition

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr to be honest with them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Steve Kerr is a more on

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Speaker 4: so mean to me. It's like, why would I care

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Speaker 4: what this guy says. I agree with you that he's

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Speaker 4: to have some people that to me, the more troubling

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Speaker 4: part is that somebody with his money, access and you

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Speaker 2: Could just be so delusional.

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Speaker 1: And let me let me ask you this, because you're

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Speaker 1: be curious on your take here. To what extent do

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Speaker 1: you think the NBA and the Golden State Warriors should

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Speaker 1: be responsible when they have and I'm curious what other

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Speaker 1: right like, they have to go talk to the media.

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Speaker 2: This is a part of their job. The NBA is

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Speaker 1: And when they're going out there and saying things that

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Speaker 1: ICE not arresting violent criminals. You're going to hear this

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Speaker 1: this to what extent is I mean? I think it's

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Speaker 1: actually kind of a fascinating question.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's like the dude in The Big Lebowski when

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Speaker 4: he says, that's just like your opinion.

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Speaker 2: Man, they're going to fall back on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're saying, but there is there is a

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Speaker 1: he said ICE, in my opinion, is a terror organization

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Speaker 1: and we shouldn't be employed and we should abolish ICE, right,

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Speaker 1: I would disagree with him, but that would be an

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Speaker 4: When you say the sound like he was running for

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Speaker 4: Senate as a Democrat, right, yeah, But when you say here,

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Speaker 4: play this here, I want you to hear it. Here's

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Speaker 5: The protests here and nationwide will lead to a much

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Speaker 5: better solution for immigration, you know, where it's not like

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Speaker 5: they're rooting out violent criminals. You know, they're they're taking

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Speaker 2: US citizens and detaining people.

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Speaker 6: And immigration is a is a problem that needs to

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Speaker 6: be addressed, but it needs to be addressed by Congress,

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Speaker 6: you know, legislatively, not by you know, military force in

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Speaker 4: Okay, it has been has been addressed by Congress. The

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Speaker 4: laws that they're enforcing, our laws passed by Congress. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is I don't know how much dummer you can

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Speaker 4: people that say they also, I know immigration is a problem.

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Speaker 4: What solution do you offer for this? Yes, what is

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Speaker 4: the solution to people in the country illegally that doesn't

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Speaker 4: two things. They either stay or they go. It's actually

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Speaker 2: No waiting for asylum, they're getting, they're getting a pathway

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Speaker 4: What we realize and this is why, by the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this, and we get them alone.

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Speaker 2: Ran Paul.

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Speaker 4: I saw some clip of Rampaul and I think it's recent.

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Speaker 4: I don't even care Rampaul in some things I think

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Speaker 4: is great. Another things. Unfortunately, whenever you hear libertarian and

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Speaker 4: then you start hearing immigration, bad things are gonna come

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. I'm sorry, folks.

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Speaker 4: The libertarians on immigration and weed are an absolute disaster. Okay,

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Speaker 4: And they weren't good enough on COVID. Rand was good

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Speaker 4: on COVID. Here's the thing they say, Well, I think

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Speaker 4: but not citizenship and not welfare.

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Speaker 2: That's the current law.

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Speaker 4: They're not supposed to get welfare, and they do, and

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Speaker 4: they're not supposed to be able to stay forever, and

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Speaker 4: can never be deported, and then the kids are citizens,

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Speaker 4: and then everyone else wants to come from the rest

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Speaker 4: of the world. We all the things play that the

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Speaker 2: All the different promises that have.

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Speaker 4: Been made that they say will make, the deals that

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Speaker 4: will be struck, we've been completely double crossed and screwed over.

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Speaker 2: So this is where.

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Speaker 4: Half of the American people, more than half the American

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Speaker 4: people are on this issue. According to last election, we

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Speaker 4: tried your way. It's a disaster. The country's falling apart

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Speaker 4: when it comes to our sovereignty. Can't keep doing this.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go, you gotta go. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it is all of this, I think is.

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Speaker 1: You get to a point where they're praying on empathy

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Speaker 1: and if you want violent criminals and if you want

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Speaker 4: Welcome back into Clay and Buck wondering out there we

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Speaker 4: have any uh any experts in like child rearing, not

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Speaker 7: being a fall guy or gal for this stuff. And

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Speaker 7: a while. She likes her job and and it's a

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Speaker 7: big job, and there's plenty to do besides be the

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Speaker 7: be the spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, I think it's uh, it's definitely telling

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Speaker 4: that her defense involves I said the not true things

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Speaker 4: that have caused a huge problem because I was told

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Speaker 4: to say them as if there's not the option for

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Speaker 4: I'm just not going to say them right.

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Speaker 7: Like that's hundred If there's a lesson they need to learn,

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Speaker 7: it's that there's just no mileage in going out and

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Speaker 7: and trying to win the momentary fight on X about

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Speaker 7: to define that what happened, just just say what Homan said.

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Speaker 7: We need an investigation. This is unfortunate. Let's have an

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Speaker 7: investigation and the and the suspension of the officers who

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Speaker 7: were involved. Putting them on leave is the right thing

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Speaker 7: to do. It's a standard and and and that's how

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Speaker 7: they should have handled it. So she needs to learn

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Speaker 7: that lesson, for sure, But so so does Pleny of Soda.

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Speaker 7: Stephen Miller in the White House, so does the President.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty remarkable that they messed this one up

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Speaker 4: in that way. But I got to say, I'm still

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Speaker 4: very much of the mind that they can't. We haven't

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Speaker 4: even gotten into this really yet on the show. We'll

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Speaker 4: get into the third hour. But Mark, this is an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to bring up that you've got. In New York City,

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Speaker 4: a bunch of these maniac sixty five anti ICE protesters

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Speaker 4: were arrested. They were occupying the lobby of a Hilton hotel,

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Speaker 4: reportedly housing ICE agent. So, I mean, this madness in

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Speaker 4: Minneapolis I think is possibly going to spread. If there's

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Speaker 4: a sense that Trump has backed off, how do you

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Speaker 4: think the administration should or will balance the optics of

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Speaker 4: Minneapolis with their going into a mid term election cycle,

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Speaker 4: and if Trump doesn't continue to deliver on the deportations

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Speaker 4: that in a large part I think help get them elected,

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Speaker 4: the base is going to be pretty unhappy one.

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Speaker 7: Hundred percent, And I know the president's polite advisors are

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Speaker 7: talking about this can't win the election in the midterms,

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Speaker 7: that the base is unhappy and the independents are turned

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Speaker 7: off your immigration policy, right, They've got to solve both

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Speaker 7: of those simultaneously. There are many pieces to how to

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Speaker 7: fix it. One is, you've seen this. Even even if

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Speaker 7: the president has de escalated in his word, they're still

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Speaker 7: emphasizing the fundamentals of the immigration policies that are popular

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Speaker 7: that help the president win. I think there's one thing,

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Speaker 7: and Steven Miller either this yesterday, and I think anybody

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Speaker 7: who's ever covered a protest as a reporter or been

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Speaker 7: to one or more than protests activists who want to interfere.

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Speaker 7: They need some combination of federal force and state and

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Speaker 7: local to create free speech zones and to keep people

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Speaker 7: who want to interfere with their investigations and their operations

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Speaker 7: from interfering. Every time I watch these videos of the

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Speaker 7: two people who died, same thing as it comes into

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Speaker 7: my head from the very first time. Why are they

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Speaker 7: allowed to get so close? They shouldn't be allowed to

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Speaker 7: get so close. But the men and women who are

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Speaker 7: doing the actual operations of seizing people for purposes of deportation,

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Speaker 7: they can't also do crowd control. That's what's caused this, right,

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Speaker 7: They're trying to both be operators and crowd controllers, and

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Speaker 7: so they either need to get the governor and the

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Speaker 7: mayor and the county to do these things, whether it's

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Speaker 7: in Minneapolis or any place else, or as Steven Miller says,

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Speaker 7: what's the policy. Some of these colleagues need to be

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Speaker 7: broken off and just say you're crowd control, you're creating

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Speaker 7: the perimeter. If I go as a journalist to cover

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Speaker 7: something like that, I can't walk right up to the

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Speaker 7: ice officers who are interdicting. Somebody are border control. Somebody's

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Speaker 7: going to stop me. Somebody's going to set up a perimeter.

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Speaker 7: They just need to do that. I think that'll go

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Speaker 7: a long way towards not only keeping bad things from happening,

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Speaker 7: both to agents and to civilians, but also trade less

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Speaker 7: of a copycat, right, because why are there copycats? Because

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Speaker 7: all this stuff's getting on the news and they want

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Speaker 7: to be part of that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's play.

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Speaker 1: You asked us famous duos, and we had a fun discussion,

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Speaker 1: and we don't need to play the full discussion of this,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to play.

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Speaker 2: Guys. We can cut it off. We've got it.

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Speaker 1: Mark Halprin asked Buck a question about which is the

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Speaker 1: better duo Listen Madden.

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Speaker 4: In summer all or Salt and Peppa I don't even

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Speaker 4: know who Madden in Summer all are I've never be serious?

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Speaker 7: No, be serious, dude, you really don't know who Madden

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Speaker 7: in Summer?

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Speaker 2: You know the Madden video game? Oh John Madden the coach.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I have no idea.

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Speaker 7: How do you host a show with someone who's culturally literate?

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Speaker 2: H for for for our age? I actually so.

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Speaker 1: First of all, this has gone on, by the way,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are reacting to it, So Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you react, and then I'll let Buck thinned

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Speaker 1: himself here.

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Speaker 7: But well, we did a serious conversation. We talked about

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Speaker 7: the future of Taiwan, we talked about Treasury Secretary best

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Speaker 7: and high minded topics. But all anybody's talking to me

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Speaker 7: about is the question of what has happened to America's youth?

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Speaker 7: What do we what do we do as a nation?

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Speaker 7: How do we compete with the Chinese? If our people

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Speaker 7: have never heard of Pat summer Ale. Now I am

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Speaker 7: sympathetic to this, because there's there's things that young people

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Speaker 7: know that I don't know about. But for people our

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Speaker 7: age and who grew up these are it's like being saying, well,

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Speaker 7: I don't know who Thomas Jefferson is because I'm young,

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Speaker 7: I wasn't alive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think that's a little extreme.

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Speaker 4: Look, we got into this yesterday on the show on

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Speaker 4: Mark's Show, which you should all go check out.

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Speaker 2: It was clear that we.

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Speaker 4: Have a little bit of a gen X versus young

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Speaker 4: and spry millennial, which would be me issue here Google.

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Speaker 7: Sorry to interrupt, but have you googled today somewhere all

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Speaker 7: in mat and have you gone on YouTube?

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Speaker 4: He's not even letting me get through the set. I

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Speaker 4: want to know the talk explayed. Let me explain this

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Speaker 4: for a second. Hold on, I know John Madden is.

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Speaker 4: I usp played the Madden video game. But when you

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Speaker 4: said Madden in Summer All and then I think the

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Speaker 4: other with the others was like a musician, I immediately that's.

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Speaker 2: Salt and Pepper. Yeah, I just didn't. I don't know

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Speaker 2: who summer All is.

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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking, is this some kind of weird, like uh,

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Speaker 4: easy listening jazz band that you old timers like? I

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Speaker 4: just didn't because I don't know Summer All. But then

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Speaker 4: I got Madden, So the Madden part of it obviously, Oh,

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Speaker 4: John Madden, Like I know John Madden is from the

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Speaker 4: video game, not that I actually watched much football, but

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Speaker 4: the Summer All thing. I'm not gonna lie that flew

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Speaker 4: away over. I had no idea you could have offered

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Speaker 4: me a million dollars on the spot to tell you

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Speaker 4: who Summer All was.

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Speaker 2: I would have gone home.

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Speaker 7: One thing right, But but it's like saying, who is

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Speaker 7: Sonny and Sharon? You'd say Sonny and Share. Never heard

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Speaker 7: of him? Oh, Sonny, Sonny Bono heard of him? Share,

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Speaker 7: never heard of her. I don't know about the Share Crystal.

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Speaker 7: Everyone's heard of Share and not Sonny. If we're gonna

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Speaker 7: play that game, Share is way more.

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Speaker 3: My point is.

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Speaker 7: My point is again, please spend some time on YouTube.

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Speaker 7: Go look at the body of their work. These are

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Speaker 7: not fringe players. These are key, key cultural likely.

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Speaker 1: And as we eventually got to pat Summer All, this

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Speaker 1: is something that I bet a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily know. Is Susie Wiles President Trump's chief of staff Dad,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy. Mark, last question for you, You've

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Speaker 1: been in media a long time. The media universe, I

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Speaker 1: would argue, is evolving and changing more rapidly than maybe

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Speaker 1: ever in history.

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Speaker 2: Where would you want to buy stock and media? Right? Now,

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Speaker 2: how do you see it going forward?

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Speaker 1: And I know it's a broad question, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of curious how you would assess where we are

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Speaker 1: and where we're headed.

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Speaker 7: Number one choice would be if you guys take the

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Speaker 7: Number three would be making Kelly's Company. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. We encourage people to go check

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Speaker 1: out the interview that we did with Mark. You can

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Speaker 2: Mark? I do?

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Speaker 7: I do basically do two things. I do Two Way,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time with you, courage people to go

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis at buck Sexton find.

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Speaker 1: Them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: People don't need to send me like links to this

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Speaker 4: Summer off fellow play I have. I have the Google machine.

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Speaker 4: I know now, all right, I understand that I was

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Speaker 4: caught unawares of this football announcer.

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Speaker 1: See me react, by the way on the video. I

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Speaker 1: put my hand on my heads because I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I could see. It was like watching a

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Speaker 1: slow moving train wreck. And Mark Alpern had no idea

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Speaker 1: like what he was walking into. Well, he thought I

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Speaker 1: was messing with him too, like I was playing. I

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Speaker 1: legitimately did not. I mean, if you told me, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't watch a lot of football growing up.

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't really a thing.

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Speaker 4: I did watch a lot of basketball growing up, actually,

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Speaker 4: but I did not watch a lot of football growing up,

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Speaker 4: so I was not But ever, Madden, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: say that, No shade to mister summer All, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: is a fantastic fellow.

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Speaker 2: But Madden.

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Speaker 4: Is like a cultural like everyone knows Madden because of

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Speaker 4: the video game, which I think is like a billion

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Speaker 4: dollar video game franchise.

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Speaker 2: On its own. I mean it's a huge, huge deal.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I do like I do like video.

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Speaker 4: Games, so I will say that, much to my wife's chagrin,

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Speaker 4: but I do like the video games.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. And I was pretty good at Madden.

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Speaker 2: I'll have you know.

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Speaker 4: We have some calls, mister Clay, you got that screen

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Speaker 4: up there? Oh, here we go, Katie and Northern cal See. See,

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Speaker 4: let's hear what she has to say to.

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Speaker 8: Train that baby buck Katie in Northern California. My oldest,

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Speaker 8: he's six now, and we sleep trained him. He has

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Speaker 8: a great relationship with his bed to this day. You

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Speaker 8: will tell you when he's tired, when he wants to

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Speaker 8: go to bed, when he needs a nap. He's got

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Speaker 8: a great relationship with it. If you're if my mom

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Speaker 8: we're alive today, she would say, your bed is for

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Speaker 8: just you and Carrie, not your baby.

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 1: Y'all interesting, I'm gonna I'm sure I'm gonna get blown

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Speaker 1: up over this. I actually think that if every kid

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Speaker 1: is different, our oldest slept like an angel. When they

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Speaker 1: get old enough, right, I don't want to be giving

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Speaker 1: like contra when they're old enough. So that you're not

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Speaker 1: worried about rolling over on top of them or whatever else.

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Speaker 1: Slept like an angel between us and slept great hours

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Speaker 1: everything else. Eighteen years old and probably not very fond

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Speaker 1: of dad talking about this now turned eighteen yesterday. Uh,

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Speaker 1: second and third did it have the same kind of setup?

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Speaker 1: So I think every single kid is quite a bit different. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are there general rules that would apply, yes, but

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Speaker 1: you step into the sleep wars with moms out there

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Speaker 1: and you are just going to get absolutely deluged because

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Speaker 1: everybody has a perfect plan and it's something that worked

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Speaker 1: really well for their kids. But again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: everything is universal. Every kid's a little bit different. That's

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Speaker 1: my take.

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Speaker 2: But again.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to check my mentions because I

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Speaker 1: know the moms of America are coming for me. We

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Speaker 1: come back. There's a raid going on right now in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: What's happening. We'll discuss