WEBVTT - How Pirates Work 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.920 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:07.480 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:17.200 from House Stuff Works dot com? Are and welcome to 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.360 the podcast, etcetera. I am Josh Clark with me to 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.440 be laughy? Who is that a little laugh? I just 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.040 I was joking. I thought who was going to be 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.319 the first one to do it? And I didn't know 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.880 you were going to literally lead in with that. Yeah, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.279 I like to surprise you. Boom. Well that's a good one. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.000 It's hard to amaze me. I'm glad you did it. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.800 Chuck study wasn't going to do I know, and what 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.600 I last like thirty seconds? Such a pushover. I haven't 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.240 announced you yet. That's Chuck Bryant, right, Sara, etcetera. Yeah, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.360 this is stuff you should know. The Pirate edition. Um, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.840 I think we should be done with the pirate talking. Yeah, 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.800 that could get really annoying. Yeah, you want to know 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.000 what is probably the most annoying day of the year, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.240 some kind of pirate day? September nineteenth, talk like a 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.520 pirate day? Really, I think I remember that because Strickland 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.240 came was like slinging ours all over the Austine Tricklin 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.640 Anti dub are being into pirates stuff, Tracy, she wrote 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.000 this right, Yeah, it's a great article. Yeah, she's the 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.440 keeper of the house stuff works voice. She is indeed 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.760 like the old sage on that led Zeppelin poster with 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.959 the lantern. Yeah, that's that's why I think of a tracy. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.360 Except when Star Trek Earrings speaking of off comes your head. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.720 We're going to get into that, chuck, because we're talking 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.039 about pirates, and whenever pirates got caught, people love to 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.760 cut off their head and post it as a warning 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.600 to other pirates. Yeah that's gross, Yeah it is. You 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:48.280 mean to define pirate, Gosh, can you really define pirate? Sure, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.520 a pirate is someone who uses a boat to attack 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.840 another boat with the intent to kidnap, steel or otherwise 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.280 do harm. Being bang boom end of podcasts. But that's 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.520 not all there are. There are a few of criteria. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.680 I can't do that, please stop. There are a few 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.080 other criteria. Um, it must be for private gain using 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.280 a private vessel, and it's for gain like it can 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.680 be um like green Peace coming up on like a 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.760 whaling ship or something not pirates um, and they operate 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.320 outside of a government authority, because back in the day 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.519 they used to governments use things people called privateers. Yeah, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.760 and a lot of pirates started out as privateers, which 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.280 are basically pirates, government licensed pirates. They had like a 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:37.280 letter of mark that said this guy is allowed to go. Um, yeah, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.920 I'll do whatever to say the French or the Dutch. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.960 But the problem is or maybe the Spanish during not 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.639 times of not war, peace I think is the way 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.040 that most people put it. Peace, peace, thank you. During 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.080 times of peace. Uh, these privateers would be out of 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.840 work and they'd be like, well, I have one skill 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.520 and so then they turned to piracy, right, or they 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.760 could have just gone and been like regular seamen and 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.000 um not gotten paid all that much? Yea, And who 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.160 wants to do that, right when you can plunder and 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.760 get the loot. Right. One of the reasons that people 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.120 engaged in piracy from early on is the same reason 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.920 that they do now. Uh. The economy a lot of 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.840 times when things are down, just like anything else with theft, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.960 and we we talked about shoplifting and stuff like that 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:30.440 another podcast, UM one hour ago, the crime rate goes up. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.040 So poverty led to an increase of in piracy over 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.240 the years, and not just it's not only when times 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.920 are tough, when times are really good too, and there's 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.520 a lot of trade on the high seas that the 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.880 opposite will attract pirates as well. Yeah, the golden nature piracy, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.520 which we'll get into and uh piracy actually has a 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:52.280 very long, hearty tradition that dates back at least to 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.320 the fourth century BC. Yeah, the Luca Yeah, I've never 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.600 heard of that. I hadn't either, man. They attacked boats 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.280 off of the coast of uh what is now Turkey 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.200 in the fourteenth century. Yeah, a long time ago. Yeah, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.480 that's a very long time ago. That's as many as 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.080 thirty four years ago. It seems like almost since there 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.200 were boats on the high seas, there was piracy. Yeah. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.480 Tracy makes that point too. As long as people were 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.680 applying the high seas with goods that were worth stealing, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.520 people stole them in boats piracy. Um, you might have 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.000 heard of the Corsairs, famous pirates. That was fifteenth and 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.680 sixteenth century, and of course the they were the Barbary Pirates, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.160 the Barbary Pirates, which actually I wrote an article on 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.520 the Barbary Pirates. They were America's first terrorist threat. Really, huh. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.640 It was Jefferson was the one that had to deal 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.000 with them. And they actually got their start from the 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.640 Red Beard brothers who were Turks. But they went down 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.800 to North Africa and I think converted to Islam and 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.479 they used to kidnap and torture and murder Spaniards and 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.800 Spaniards did the the opposite. But these two brothers, but 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.919 brothers Barbarosa, which means red Beard, gave the start to 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.640 the Barbary Pirates. They were very successful for I think 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.320 over a century did not know that. Yeah, and then 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.240 of course the buccaneers, the lousy, stinking Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:18.040 are named after the pirate buccaneers of the seventeenth century. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.000 So that's just a I mean, there's a lot more 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.360 history in this article, but that's an overview, if you will. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.479 It is an overview, uh, And it's it's not just 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:32.240 European or African. The Chinese used to like to pillage 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.000 in pirate after the Han dynasty around to twenty BC. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.279 They used to like the pirate. Yeah, I'm trying to 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.560 get this word out as a verb now too. Like that. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.840 And also I decided the new Rick role is Dion 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.560 Warwick performing do you know the way to San Jose. Yeah, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.680 I've been. I've been. It's worked so far. Did it 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.880 to Robert Lamb and he was like, that's good. Where 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.120 was that going anywhere? Okay? So, Josh, what do you 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.440 think of when you think of a pirate? What comes 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.760 to mind? What mental image do you get? I think 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.240 of a guy with maybe a tricornered hat, a tricorn, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.000 it's called a tricorn. Okay, some hoop ear rings. What 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.479 are those called hoop ear rings? Okay? Parrot that says 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.040 things like pieces of eight and dead men tell no 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.080 tales and stuff like that. Um, a peg leg usually 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.840 or a hook for a hand. Um. I think of, um, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:30.279 very weathered, scarred skin, tattoos. I think of Johnny Depp. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.680 What about the clothes. The clothes, um, you know, a 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.400 ruffled shirt and a little fruity long coat. Um, yeah, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:43.839 a long coat leather probably, um and uh I also 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.039 think of, um, a nice long sword, maybe a sure 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.120 flint lock pistol and uh. Furies also come to mind, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.960 because usually if you run into a furry, there's someone 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.520 dress as a pirate nearby. Well, Josh, you want to 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.560 talk about if that's real or not? That stuff you 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.080 just named in the Golden Age of piracy, which is 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.119 this is the when we think of all those things. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.320 You're thinking of the Golden age of piracy, right, And 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.920 actually I was surprised after reading this article how short 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.360 it was, but I guess we'll get to that. It 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.320 was like fifty years or so, between sixteen ninety and 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.840 seventeen thirty. Okay, yeah, forty years, and that's when you 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:26.800 might have heard of people called black Beard. Yeah, Calico Jack. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.000 Have you ever heard of him? Yeah? He was you know, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.720 he was controversial, and I know it was because you know, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.000 I do know why, but I know you because he 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.200 allowed women pirates. Not only did he allow women pirates, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.880 he had a pretty torrid affair on the high seas 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.560 with one and Bonnie. It seems like a good reason 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.000 to have a woman pirate. Yeah, they had a kid together, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.600 which was born in Cuba. Um he stole her away 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.520 from her husband and she basically was this housewife who 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.880 went into a life of piracy. And she and another 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.280 mean named Mary Reid. We're aboard Calico jack ship. Right. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.240 Once the crew found out that they were women, they 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.800 accepted them because I think Calico Jack was like, if 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.640 you don't cut your hat off, but don't accept them 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.200 too much, as I'll cut your head off. So they 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.320 dressed as women, um when they were just sailing, and 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.480 then when they were about to start fighting, they would 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.680 dress up as men, and apparently they killed as many people. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.480 So if there's anybody else on that ship and a 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.760 witness for when they were both caught later on um, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.520 a witness who testified against them said that they swore 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.160 and cursed with the best of them. Good for them, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.960 women's lib way back in the golden age of piracy. Yeah. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.880 So one of the reasons it was the golden age 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.680 back then, Josh, is from what you just said, that 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.120 was when the seas were really flying around between Africa 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.840 and America and Europe. Have you heard the theory that 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:00.280 African slaves Africa was tapped for slavery simply because of 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.880 a trade wind. Really. Yeah, that went from the east 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.720 coast of the United States right down to um, what 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.280 is that western Africa? Interesting? Yeah, it just took your 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.160 right down and that's where that's why Africans became slaves 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.880 because it was so easy to get there. Interesting. Yeah, 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.400 although the Portuguese already had a lock on the slave 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.920 trade by the time you know the colonists started or 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.920 the English very true, we didn't make that up. Uh. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:31.400 So lots of boats with like sugar and rum and startlingly, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.199 it wasn't like big trunks full of gold coins usually, right, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.400 that did happen, but it was more like goods. Yeah. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.680 There was one specific ship that that that went down actually, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.760 uh and the pirates treasure that you hear of a 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.280 lot um, it's pretty much personified or emblematic of this 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.600 one called the Wide Ah. Yeah, it was like pirate 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.359 Captain Sam Bellamy's ship, and it went down in seventeen 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.000 seventeen off the coast of Cape Comb, Massage usits and 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.600 it had literally chests of gold and jewels and things 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:11.960 in it when it went down. But normally they pillage sugar, frum, molasses, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.760 stuff that you could turn around and sell in bulk 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.720 to somebody and say like Port Royal or whatever. So 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.880 the Golden Age, I mentioned it was big for two reasons. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.120 One or that's what we think of when we think 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.520 of the traditional pirates, because the Golden Age was so big, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:33.200 and because of books like Treasure Island and Peter Pan Right, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.280 that's why we think of the pirates is is what 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:39.000 you described earlier. It's like Santa Claus being our conception 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.679 of Santa Claus comes from a illustration exactly from a 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.320 guy who is paid by Coca Cola. So let's go 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.319 over those real quick. The flag that you often think of, 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.240 the Jolly Roger. Did you do any additional research on this? 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.480 Tracy kind of traps around that one. It's a little sticky, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.959 is it? And this is definitely a family friendly article. Okay, 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.880 can we mention it? No, we can't, But anybody can 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.000 type in origins of Jolly Roger in Google and find 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.760 it themselves, and we would bear no responsibility whatsoever for that. Well, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.720 that flag made its first appearance in the early eighteenth century, Josh, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.400 and before that there is a little non fact by 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.720 me at least, uh, you would and this makes total sense. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.679 Pirates would fly up miss false colors basically to mislead 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.800 other ships that they were dangerous. Yeah, and total sense. Yeah, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.360 that's the smart thing to do, right, smart. It's just 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.000 like the Jolly Roger, which I also found out from 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.720 this one often had a skeleton, not just the skull 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.320 and cross. Sometimes it was a black um flag with 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.720 a white skeleton UM. So it always struck me as 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.520 weird because you're like, hey, I'm a pirate and I'm 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.640 coming after you. But it turns out they did do 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.120 that purposely because in a lot of um, a lot 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.400 of ways, pirates were so feared that, um, the ship 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.319 would just be like, Okay, you're a pirate here to 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.160 take our stuff. Well, yeah, that's best case scenario. What 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.400 they want is for the ship to immediately surrender. So 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.600 that's what the pirates really looking for because then you 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.400 get the you get the cargo, you get whatever stuff 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.320 is on board, money maybe, um, and you get the ship. Yeah, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.640 and a lot. Apparently it wasn't hard to flip a 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.400 crew over to piracy. I think there's a really thin 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:26.920 line between you know, legitimate semen and a pirate. Uh 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.120 during the golden age of piracy. And you know, if 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.360 you captured a crew and said I need you guys, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.800 they'd say okay, or what they probably said was, you 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.920 have a couple of choices. You can become a pirate, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.480 or we can shoot you in the face or maroon 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.439 you on this island. Yeah. I love that word. What maroon? 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.120 Yes really, yeah, I just think it's a great word. 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.240 And of course that means to strand on an island 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.679 or deserted island. Doesn't really work if you drop them 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.840 off in Haiti. Um, but you find a deserted island 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.240 drop off the crew. Sometimes they would leave them with 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.760 supplies and other times they leave them with nothing and 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:02.400 you just leave, and it's pretty much a sentence pretty much. Uh. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.400 Their clothes Josh, that you described are you know it 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.839 could have been real because they basically wore what people 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.760 wore at the time. But a lot of times they 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.960 would get the clothes from that We're maybe being shipped 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.440 to rich, wealthy people or so they would have like 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.800 fine clothes, like the ruffled churts and all that. Parents true, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.880 We're not true. I don't think it's true. Not necessarily, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.480 she says. Um, they did capture parents to sell them. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:34.040 But um, that's that's from Treasure Island. Yeah, basically hooks 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.400 and pegs legs. Yeah, that happened. Do you know why 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.120 because being a fire it was dangerous. You get your 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.480 arms and your legs blown off many times. So there 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.680 were probably some peg legs walking around stumping around. And 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.880 but that was also from Captain Hook and Treasure Island. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.920 So a lot of these things are fictional but may 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.400 or may not have happened. And um, flintlock pistols, I 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.360 had those it then, that's true. But they didn't work 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.000 very well at sea, yeah, because of the saltwater. Right, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.160 but they still used them when they could the very 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.840 at least you can club somebody in the head with it. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.960 They're big. Um. And then along with obviously the swords 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.800 and daggers and all that stuff that you're familiar with, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.800 right uh and chuck, we we are focusing on the 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.040 Golden Age of piracy. I think we should say. One 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.080 of the reasons that gave rise to it was the 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.080 War of Spanish Secession. Alright, what I was talking about 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.920 about the privateers, right, yeah, and that happened many, many times. Um. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.080 The War of Spanish Secession gave rise to the Golden 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.640 Age of piracy because there were so many privateers. But 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.240 the United States used to give letters of mark pirates 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.040 that actually, uh are privateers that turned pirate. Um, the 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.160 British did it it. It happened, I think, um, well 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:51.040 into the nineteenth century there were privateers turned pirates. Yeah, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:58.000 another falsehood. They are often depicted as steering these huge galleons. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.160 They would often attack these galleons. But a galleon isn't 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.680 great if you're going to be in a a pirate 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.160 because you want to get in and out. It's all 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.160 about speed. In fact, modern pirates use speed boats mainly, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.000 which we'll get too in a minute, but they usually 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:16.600 used um smaller uh sloops and schooners, so so they 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.680 get in and out quicker, but no less cool. Or 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.920 they could have also used a brigantine, which um what 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.040 it was. It's like a larger version of the schooner. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.720 It could hold about a hundred and fifty men, uh 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:35.280 and probably about thirty cannons. Not bad, No, you could 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.240 do some real damage with that. So what's lifelike on 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:43.840 a boat, Josh? It's it is, indeed, because they're not 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.560 feasting on like fine meals and drinking fine wines. They 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.280 I mean, I guess if they pillage some than they could. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.720 But when that's gone, dude, they're eating spoiled meat. They 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.720 are eating water tainted with algae, which you could eat actually, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.800 and they drank it and uh they ate their water 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.320 with a fork, that's how bad it was. And they 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.120 ate something called hard tack. Yes, I've never heard of that. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:09.880 You know what another word for hard tech is what 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.800 sea biscuit? Really is that where that comes from. I'm 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.720 learning all kinds of things. That's like a really hard cracker. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.320 And they took that out to see because it didn't 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.320 spoil is fast, but I'll bet it was hell on teeth. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.680 Well yeah, and they also said that it was you know, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:25.720 when you're out to see for that long, it's like 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.760 weevils like crawling around and that's gross. Yeah, so you're 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.000 not exactly happy, and probably after a couple of days 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.360 of eating hard tack and spoiled meat, you are really 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.440 really ready to go butcher a crew to get your 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.400 hands on their food. Yeah. I imagine that you had 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.800 no trouble persuading your crew to go after each and 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.000 every ship you came upon. I would think, So, you know, 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.840 you know how they did that, how they came up, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.400 and you want to talk about how that they did 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.200 their thing. Yeah, let's let's talk about that. Usually at 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.480 night they would sneak up on the stern side and 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.800 they would uh throw up the grappling hooks and they 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.560 would climb aboard and try and get them to surrender 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.680 as quickly as possible. Right, Like you said that The 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.080 ideal confrontation was one where the other ship just gave 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.200 up immediately without a fight. Right. Sometimes that didn't help 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.120 or it didn't work, um, so they would have to fight, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.520 and they would what did you say, grappling hooks. Yeah, 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.280 the grappling hooks to get up so they board, sure, right, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.160 and that you'd want to actually keep your um, your 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.879 ship out of cannon fire range. Um, so that you 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.120 would just get in a few boats and swim over 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.080 to it or row over to it, and then climb aboard, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.480 and then the massacre would begin, right, or if not 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.600 a surrender, then the masket would be and they would 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.320 disable the rudder to which I didn't know, which is 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.359 pretty smart. Yeah, straightaway, so they couldn't steer away or anything, right, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.240 but you could still toe what I imagine, Yeah, I 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.360 guess because the ideal situations to get the boat. That's 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.680 why they didn't want to bombard them with cannon fire, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.800 because you want to take the boat and everything that's 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.760 got on it in one piece. And plus, even if 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.280 you don't intend to take the boat, you don't want 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.359 to sink it before you can get to the cargo. Right. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.359 So there was cannon fire that did happen when all 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.439 outs failed. And I think Tracy said they also fired 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.640 a grape shot. Have you ever heard of that? Huh? 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.480 Whell those like small little cannonballs. It looks like a 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.119 little bunch of grapes actually, and they would spit like 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.000 spew out like a shotgun. Yeah, I think somewhere else 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.920 they're they're molded together. I think they do spit out 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.560 like a shotgun, but they're like that bigger around the spray. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.960 You're in trouble if somebody hits you a grape shot 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.080 and actually they would go for the guy at the 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.680 wheel was their first shot if they shot sure at 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.480 the other ship and the guy steering. Apparently when they 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.720 did capture crew, if they weren't in the mood to 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.440 um turn them. There were several things they could do 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.320 aboard the high season. One thing I read about was 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.800 um they would tie tie somebody to the mast and 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.480 just throw broken bottles at them until they got bored 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:07.720 with that. That was one thing. Hauling so this sounds awful. Yeah. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.200 Keel hauling is when they tied a rope. They're big 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.359 on the rope and they would throw you overboard and 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.040 drag you under the keel of the boat, which pretty 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.840 much means you you drowned. Yeah, or and along the 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.159 way we're cut up by the barnacles that were stuck 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.600 to the ship. And they would do this to their 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.840 own guys. Apparently there was a strict code on the 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.280 boat with the crew, and if you disobeyed the code, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.760 you would be treated just like the enemy would be. Uh. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.920 One thing that is fiction is walking the plank. Chuck, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.080 I did not know that either. Yeah, this is like 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:43.760 the totem pole. I'm just I'm learning. Apparently, right, that 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.959 was all. That's all just made up for books, right, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:50.320 walking the plank. Yep, that's disappointing. Um, so let's see 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.000 what else, chuck. Oh Uh, Tracy made a really excellent 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.000 point that I hadn't thought of. But if you have 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.320 two ships and they're the same same type of ship, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.879 how does one catch the other? If you're using sales 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.320 and oars, right, the same number of oars, same wind. Um. Apparently, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.959 if you were a decent pirate, you would beat your 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.560 ship every once in a while and then clean off 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.200 the hole and the barnacles off the hole to make 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.920 it slide through a lot faster. Remember we were talking 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.080 about ships that are being outfitted with that ouze that 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:27.320 resembles a pilot whale skin. Um, the pilot whales keep 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.800 barnacles off, and this ouze is the aim of the 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.679 ouze is to keep um barnacles off of these ships 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.520 to go fat or more efficiently at least, and go faster. 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.280 And yeah, I think it was gonna cut fuel consumption 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:44.040 by like twenty percentage of consumption consumption. So that is 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.760 how you would catch up to somebody else. You could 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.680 also offload cargo, store it, maybe bury it in North 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.679 Carolina and um, yeah, that is an interesting point. I 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.680 ever thought about that because they they have the same wind. 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:01.840 That's right. Are we done with old pirates? Seems like okay, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.639 modern modern times. Yeah, there was like there was a 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.480 lull between the nineteenth century and the twenty first century really, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.640 and all of a sudden, we have pirates again. Yeah. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.439 I mean there's probably little pirateing here, and they're not 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.280 like we've been seeing lately. Yeah, this one could almost 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.959 call this the second Golden Age of piracy. Josh, if 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.440 one were so inclined. Do you know why that is 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.879 flourishing again? Economy much for the same reasons that it 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:31.080 flourished back then. Economy is bad. Um, ship masters have 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.720 been reluctant to report them who ship masters? Ship masters 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.200 are reluctant to report the attacks because it can take 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.280 a long time and be expensive and hold them up, 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.720 so they'll just let it go undone. And they because 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.679 of the economy, their staffing crews with smaller, smaller crews, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.879 ships of smaller cruise and the vast majority of modern 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.320 pirate attacks are happening in the Gulf of Aiden, and 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.080 they are being undertaken by Somali pirates. And one of 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.160 the reasons why the pirates are getting away from it 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.560 is because some only is as far as I know, 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.320 the one nation on the entire planet that doesn't have 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:08.919 a functioning central government. It's truly lawless, great place for 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.920 pirates to hang out, right, Um, we're land based these days. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.400