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Speaker 1: Hi again everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The start spreading the news's edition

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals pick up a big win in the

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Speaker 1: Big Apple, or technically a few miles away in the

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Speaker 1: Meadowlands as they knock off the New York Giants. Seventeen

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Speaker 1: to seven. Coming up, radio replays, locker room comments and

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Speaker 1: postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then in this week's fun

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Speaker 1: Facts Conversation, you'll meet the player most likely to hide

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Speaker 1: the elf on the shelf in the Bengals locker room.

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Speaker 1: greatest thing since a new course record. After broadcasting UC's

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Speaker 1: win at Central Florida on Saturday. The best way for

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Speaker 1: me to get to New York for the Bengals game

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Speaker 1: was to take the first flight out of Orlando on

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning at six am. Here's how that went. I

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Speaker 1: got up at four ten, hopped in the shower, got

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Speaker 1: on an airport shuttle at four thirty, made it through security,

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Speaker 1: bought a cup of coffee, and was at the gate

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Speaker 1: at four point fifty. That's right. It took me all

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Speaker 1: of forty minutes. There was nobody else on the shuttle,

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Speaker 1: no traffic, no line at TSA no line at the

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Speaker 1: coffee shop, and a short walk to the gate. I

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Speaker 1: felt like the usane bolt of travel. It was the

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Speaker 1: perfect start to turn out to be a great day. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's get to football and the radio replays from sunday

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Speaker 1: nights win in New Jersey. There are twelve weeks left

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. That's more than seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: the schedule, so the Bengals still have time to turn

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Speaker 1: things around. But they've got to start stacking wins and

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Speaker 1: tonight to look for a big one in the Big

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Speaker 1: Apple as they face the New York Giants. Third down

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Speaker 1: and eighteen on the Bengals first drive of the game. Again,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals with an empty formation, shotgun snap.

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Speaker 2: It's a five man rush.

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Speaker 1: Burrow runs hit thirty five, twenty five to twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: ten five time for the pylon touchdown, a forty seven

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown run by Joe Burrow. First and ten in

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Speaker 1: the red zone at the Cincinnati fourteen with the Bengals

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Speaker 1: leading seven to nothing. Play action faise to roll out

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Speaker 1: to the right. This pass deflected and an accepted. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals have the ball, Jermaine Pratt running it back to

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five and a pair of offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: Jones had his arm hit as he dropped back to pass.

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Speaker 1: B j Hill got a piece and it floated downfield

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Speaker 1: into the hands of Jermaine Pratt for the interception from

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of New York. Burrow turns right, hands

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Speaker 1: it off. Moss popped hard, loses the ball, and the

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Speaker 1: They do Jones under center, He takes the snaff, he

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Speaker 1: Knifing through the left side of his offensive line. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals line up in a pistol formation. Joe Burrow fakes

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Speaker 1: and tackled at the thirty seven by Cordale Flott. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals have to attempt a thirty seven yard field goal

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter to snap the placement Moneymax kick

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Speaker 1: back to throw his pass broken up by DJ Turner,

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Speaker 1: with three to zero one to go. It's an empty

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Speaker 1: Burrow takes a knee and that will do it. The

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Speaker 1: defense is the difference. Lose crew getting it done tonight,

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Speaker 1: win at seventeen to seven. So, after throwing five touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes last week, Joe Burrow didn't throw any this week.

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Speaker 1: He was nineteen for twenty eight. That's sixty eight percent

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Speaker 3: Missing throws I normally make you know, I felt like

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Speaker 3: I let the pressure get to me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was able to settle down there in

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Speaker 3: the second half and kind of find a rhythm. But

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Speaker 3: the first half, you know, I didn't feel like I

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Speaker 3: getting happy feed in the pocket. I just didn't feel

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Speaker 3: like anything was going our way. So wash the tape

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Speaker 3: and see where I could have improved and been better.

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Speaker 3: I know I could have been, So that's disappointing. But

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Speaker 3: it was nice to see our defense step up and

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Speaker 3: get us a swind to day.

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Speaker 1: Burrow didn't have to have a big night. The defense

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Speaker 1: held the Giants to five for fifteen on third down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great to see our defense step up today.

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Speaker 3: That was exciting to see. You know, we got healthier

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Speaker 3: up front. You could see that that really affected the

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Speaker 3: the day. I think our our dbs were sticky in

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Speaker 3: coverage all day. You know, Mike Hilton makes some big plays,

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Speaker 3: big tackles, blitzing and in coverage, so that was great

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Speaker 3: to get him back and We know what we're capable

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Speaker 3: of on offense. We've proven it all year. Uh, this

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Speaker 3: was not one of those nights, But you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: some of those nights. That's you know, it's tough to

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Speaker 3: go out every single week and put up thirty. It's

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of good defens there's a

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Speaker 3: probably not going to be like that every week. And

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Speaker 3: so just like every week, we're gonna watch the tape,

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Speaker 3: come back to practice on Wednesday and get better.

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Speaker 4: How badly did you guys need a win tonight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We really needed it.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, I don't want to say we would

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Speaker 3: have been out of it if we had lost, but uh,

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Speaker 3: we'd be we'd be scratched for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: We still really are. But it's good to get a win.

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Speaker 3: Great to see our defense step up like that. They've

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Speaker 3: taken some heat the last couple weeks, but they played

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Speaker 3: awesome today.

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Speaker 1: After allowing forty one points and last week's lost to Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: the defense held a players only meeting this week and

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Speaker 1: then went out and did the heavy lifting in a

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Speaker 1: ten point win. Mike Hilton, who missed last week's game

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Speaker 1: due to injury, made several key plays against the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and two. I caught up with Mike in front of

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Speaker 1: his locker. Mike, I'm going.

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Speaker 2: To quote you.

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Speaker 1: You said we need to uphold our end of the

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Speaker 1: bargain earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: You more than get that tonight. We did.

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Speaker 5: You know, it was a good opponent in New York,

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Speaker 5: and for us to to turn things around, we just

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Speaker 5: gotta keep building. This was a good first step of stone.

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Speaker 5: But we got the division game next week and we gotta

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Speaker 5: be ready for it.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those games where so many different

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Speaker 1: guys made big plays on deef and DJ made several

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Speaker 1: Tray had sex. You and DJ Turner made big plays

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Speaker 1: on fourth down. It was a total defensive team effort.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody kind of just took hold of what I

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Speaker 5: said that in that team meeting up and that players

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Speaker 5: only mean. You know, everybody do their job. We know

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Speaker 5: who we are as a defense, and we can make plays.

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Speaker 5: So when everybody's locked in, focused you know, we're a

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Speaker 1: How satisfying is that to have a victory that really

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Speaker 1: was determined by the defense.

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Speaker 2: I was big for us.

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Speaker 5: We've been here, how much the outside knows about our defense,

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Speaker 5: So this was a big stepping stone for us. And man,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna be excited about it, but you

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Speaker 5: think about it, we gotta continue to get better. So

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna enjoy this one to night, but

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Speaker 5: then we'll be ready for next week.

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Speaker 1: Their passing attack did very little. I thought the secondary

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Speaker 1: was outstanding tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. We limited their explosives.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you make a teams check it down

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Speaker 5: and run the ball, you know you're winning as a.

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Speaker 2: Defense, and we did that today.

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Speaker 5: And well, think about we got out of the field

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Speaker 5: early on third downs. That that kind of settings on

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Speaker 1: What was your opinion of Crazy Legs Burrow the opening

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Speaker 1: touchdown and run of the games?

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Speaker 5: Man, it was good to see him over note like that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he's not as athletic as some of the other

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks around the league, but shows he can stay for

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Speaker 5: OUTLM being all right, two.

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Speaker 1: And four, big road win tonight. Where does this put

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Speaker 1: the team going forward?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Niggers is a confidence. Obviously it's not where one.

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Speaker 5: We're still under five hundred, but we know what's in

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Speaker 5: front of us. An we got to take this one

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Speaker 5: win a grain of salt.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it. Let'll be ready for a division game Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on a great win.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Offensively, the Bengals only scored on three out of ten

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Speaker 1: true possessions, and they coughed up a couple of fumbles,

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Speaker 1: including one that could have been devastating with a three

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Speaker 1: point lead in two minutes to go. Fortunately, Chase Brown's

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Speaker 1: fumble got knocked out of bounce, allowing the Bengals to

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Speaker 1: maintain possession, and on the next play he ran thirty

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Speaker 1: yards for the clinching td Congratulations on a great win tonight,

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Speaker 1: A win that you put the exclamation point on with

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Speaker 1: that thirty yard touchdown run at the end. How did

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Speaker 1: that one feel crossing it in the end zone?

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Speaker 6: Honestly, like, not as good as you would expect. I'm

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Speaker 7: We we just strive to be perfect. There's a lot

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Speaker 7: mean the fumble right before that. You know, I'm glad that,

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Speaker 1: No, the touchdown came on the very next play in

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Speaker 6: I mean, rule number one, can't have fumbles at the

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Speaker 2: So that's where my mind's at right now. But at

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Speaker 6: Offense, we did enough to put points on the board,

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Speaker 1: As that ball was trickling out of bounds, did it

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Speaker 6: I'll just try to punch it out out of bounds.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, just get out of get out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say what I have to say that.

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Speaker 2: That's just whats on my mind.

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Speaker 1: So the offense has been cooking. It wasn't the case tonight,

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Speaker 8: That's you know, that's that's what we need to do

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Speaker 2: So you know, focus on Cleveland and let's get this

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's forty seven yard touchdown run, longest of his career.

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Speaker 2: He had space, Joe, Joe. I think Joe said he.

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Speaker 7: Was a sneaky athletic, but he's athletic and he's fast,

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Speaker 2: You just finished a good run.

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Speaker 1: Congrats and a nice win.

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Speaker 1: Round finished with ten carries for fifty three yards. Burrow

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Speaker 1: hear from Zach Taylor as he spoke with Dave Lapham

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Speaker 4: That wasn't easy. That's a damn good defensive football team

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Speaker 4: out there, men. Their front is legit.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they lead the league in sacks, and we could

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Speaker 9: see it on tape. It shows up a little bit

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Speaker 9: more when you're there in person. They got great personnel.

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Speaker 9: They do a real good job playing together. Coordinator does

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Speaker 9: a good job. But I thought in the second half

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Speaker 2: Was good to see.

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Speaker 4: How big was it to get those two fourth down conversions?

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Speaker 4: They converted three. I mean, they're aggressive. It was four

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Speaker 4: down territory. It seemed like everywhere in any time during

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Speaker 4: like two takeaways. It's turnovers, you know.

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Speaker 9: So we got the hit and the pick, and then

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Speaker 9: we got two more on the turnovers and downs, and

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Speaker 9: really pleased with how our defense played. You know, it

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Speaker 4: Third and eighteen, Joe Burrow runs for forty seven yard touchdown,

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Speaker 4: and then Chase has that thirty yard touchdown. You had

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Speaker 4: explosive plays, plays of twenty four yards and more, I

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Speaker 4: think by five different guys. It was a grind against

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Speaker 9: Yeah, grind doesn't begin to describe it. So but again,

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Speaker 9: we just guys, our superstars found ways to make plays

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Speaker 9: in really difficult situations. I thought our aligned did a

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Speaker 9: really good job holding up. I know, their sacks, and

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Speaker 9: they're always going to take the blame for that, That's

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Speaker 9: not always the case. That was on all of us

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Speaker 4: You know, it looked at times like their coverage was

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Speaker 4: really good. Were they doing anything coverage wise that wasn't anticipated.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it looked like they were playing some decent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they mix it up, you know.

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Speaker 9: And that's again when you're not in a great rhythm

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Speaker 4: How about your defensive football team. I think they probably

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Speaker 4: had close to seventy snaps when all of a sudden done,

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Speaker 9: I mean they kept the backs to three yards of carry.

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Speaker 9: to get those three turnovers essentially holding the two miss

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Speaker 4: Looked like you guys were attacking the bubble. You know

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Speaker 4: Chase finally hit one, you know, up the gut there

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Speaker 2: Well that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 4: So your defense, I mean, there was a sixteen play

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and not to mention they started the third half

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Speaker 9: That's something well we always talk about that, you know.

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Speaker 4: So your offense has been playing well for a month.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a little bit of a blip,

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Speaker 9: We know to have a team we have we just

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Speaker 2: Next week.

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Speaker 4: Is Joe okay? Borrow's okay?

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Speaker 2: Everything looks good.

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Speaker 4: Tell you man, he what's he run to forty? And

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they had a sign I'm a breakdown,

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Speaker 1: Giants quarterback Daniel Jones ran for fifty six yards. That's

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Speaker 1: Up next for the Bengals a road game in Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Lap.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals defense did exactly what Mike Hilton said they

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Speaker 4: I mean, you hold an NFL team to seven points,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was BJ Hill's best game in the

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Speaker 1: Big deflection his college roommate intercepted inside the ten yard line,

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Speaker 4: No question, and I asked him about you know, I said,

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Speaker 4: I kind of had to control my emotions a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't want to. I'm thankful for the

443
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Speaker 4: opportunity that they gave me, but I didn't want to.

444
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Speaker 4: You know, I needed to compose myself and play under

445
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Speaker 4: control a little bit. But he gave a tremendous effort.

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Speaker 4: And I said, how many times do you think you

447
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Speaker 4: get held? I said, I saw at least three, because

448
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 4: me and they weren't calling anything out there, but he

449
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Speaker 4: thought I thought he was a huge factor. Trey Henderson

450
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Speaker 4: came off the edge for you know, a couple of

451
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Speaker 4: sacks as well that were big in the football game.

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Speaker 4: But I think on a snap by snap basis, bj

453
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Speaker 4: Hill was the guy that the charge.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, this officiating crew, with Carl Cheffer's

455
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Speaker 1: in charge, last in the NFL in penalties called per

456
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Speaker 1: game coming in, so no big surprise they didn't throw

457
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Speaker 1: a bunch of flags. Let's talk about the pass rush

458
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Speaker 1: for the Giants and the problems the Bengals had protecting

459
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. The Giants were number one in the NFL

460
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Speaker 1: coming in in sacks, so it's not like this was

461
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Speaker 1: an unusual experience for them. They won up front quite

462
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Speaker 1: a bit in this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did. I mean twenty two sacks in their

464
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Speaker 4: first you know, their first five football games and sixteen

465
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Speaker 4: in the last three. So you had this four twenty

466
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Speaker 4: in the last four games, I mean, averaging five sacks

467
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Speaker 4: of game. So it was kind of another day at

468
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Speaker 4: the office with what they were doing out there. At

469
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Speaker 4: the Bengals, they're very, very gifted with the way they

470
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Speaker 4: twist and the thing that I always used to struggle

471
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Speaker 4: with as a former offensive lineman, is when they are

472
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Speaker 4: real tight, you know, they the penetrator and the looper

473
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Speaker 4: doesn't you know, go out into the loopers just right

474
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Speaker 4: off his butt is tight, and that caused that causes problems.

475
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Speaker 4: I mean, there can you can get some penetration almost

476
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Speaker 4: from the looper as a result of that. And they

477
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Speaker 4: were really good at it. They do an unbelievable job

478
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Speaker 4: as rushers, and they got good rush off the edge

479
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Speaker 4: as well. I mean, you know, they they had more

480
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Speaker 4: than one person that was causing causing problems in the pocket,

481
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Speaker 4: and they were even though they were looping and stunning

482
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Speaker 4: and everything, they kept their lanes pretty pretty intact. And Joe,

483
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Speaker 4: you know, was trying to, you know, create an extent

484
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Speaker 4: and climb the pocket and do different kinds of things.

485
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Speaker 4: But I think the other part of it is that sometimes,

486
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Speaker 4: you know, when he wanted to get rid of the football,

487
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Speaker 4: there was nowhere to get rid of it. And they

488
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Speaker 4: were running some pretty good zone coverages. They were mixing

489
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Speaker 4: it up down there on the back end a little.

490
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Speaker 4: And uh so it was a challenge for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: You said before the game, he thought there might be

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Speaker 1: opportunities for t Higgins to have a good game. You

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Speaker 1: were right. Seven targets, seven catches, seventy seven yards, A

494
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Speaker 1: lot of sevens came up lucky for T Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Usually after Jamara has a big game, the next opponent,

497
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Speaker 4: you know, go to some sort of a bracket coverage

498
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Speaker 4: or cloud coverage or whatever you want to call it.

499
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Speaker 4: You know, they'll have a corner with a safety over

500
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Speaker 4: the top and maybe you know, Buzz the linebacker underneath

501
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 4: with a corner. They'll they'll change things up. And they

502
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Speaker 4: were moving Jamar around and even had him in the

503
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Speaker 4: backfield some a little shovel pac that he had. Try

504
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Speaker 4: to get him the football any any way you can still,

505
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Speaker 4: you know, that's that's the thing. If they're going to

506
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Speaker 4: do that with Jamar, they have to deal with Tea

507
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Speaker 4: And if you can hold up in man coverage, god

508
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Speaker 4: bless you, but he's going to make some plays on you.

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Speaker 1: Joe has described himself, Joe Burrow that is, as sneaky

510
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Speaker 1: athletic in the past. He was more than sneaky on

511
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Speaker 1: that first forty seven yard touchdown drive. It's the longest

512
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Speaker 1: of his career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that run was incredible, and it was

514
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Speaker 4: you know, he just saw the thing open up. You know,

515
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Speaker 4: it wasn't a quarterback draw. It was, you know, just

516
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Speaker 4: he saw an opportunity to get up the football field

517
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Speaker 4: and get it done. And I think once he broke

518
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, I think he was probably like,

519
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Speaker 4: oh my god, and I can't believe. And there had

520
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: to be some sort of a breakdown somewhere. Somebody ended

521
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: up two guys ended up doubling one receiver and left

522
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Speaker 4: a gaping, you know, cavity that Joe took advantage of

523
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Speaker 4: or some such thing. I'd have to have to take

524
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Speaker 4: a look at the at the tape of it. But

525
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Speaker 4: it was impressive. And I asked, Zach, you know, what's

526
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Speaker 4: Joe's forty times? And he goes fast enough? And it

527
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: certainly was. I mean, get inside that pieline is a

528
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Speaker 4: huge play.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Put the win in perspective two and four with a

531
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Speaker 1: road game at Cleveland coming up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and can get a division win. Climbed to three

533
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Speaker 4: and four, and you know, and then all of a sudden,

534
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Speaker 4: you're not You're not in the dregs anymore. You're starting

535
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Speaker 4: to climb your way out of a little bit of

536
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Speaker 4: a hole that you dug if you had not gotten

537
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Speaker 4: this done and go one and five, that that would

538
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: have been almost ridiculously hard to dig your way out of.

539
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: But I think this football team has enough talent, enough grit,

540
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: and enough poise and everything, and it takes to one

541
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Speaker 4: game at a time to make a little run and

542
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Speaker 4: get back where they need to be.

543
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Speaker 1: Here's an invitation to join lapp in me for the

544
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Speaker 1: Bengals Game Plan show on Wednesday night. We'll be at

545
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: the Anderson Township Pub from six to eight and Ted

546
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: Garris's schedule to join us in the first hour. If

547
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Speaker 1: you can't make it, you can listen on ESPN fifteen

548
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: thirty or search for ESPN fifteen thirty on the free

549
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Speaker 1: iHeartMedia app. Finally, it's time for this week's fun Fact segment,

550
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Speaker 1: where you get to know the person under the pads.

551
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Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with defensive tackle Lawrence Guy.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with your grandfather. There's an elementary

553
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Speaker 1: school in your hometown of Las Vegas named for your grandfather.

554
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Speaker 1: Tell us about his life and legacy.

555
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Speaker 10: He was a great man who was first appointed African

556
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Speaker 10: American judge in Nevada, did a lot of stuff for

557
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Speaker 10: the community. And through his life. He was in the

558
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Speaker 10: Korean more as an army ranger. He was in a

559
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Speaker 10: coast guard before that. Then he was head of the

560
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Speaker 10: National Guard. Once he got into Las Vegas and became

561
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Speaker 10: a judge, and his legacy was more than what he

562
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Speaker 10: did in the courtroom. More what he did in the community,

563
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Speaker 10: built in people, making sure that everybody was treated equally,

564
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Speaker 10: and that is known throughout the historical Las Vegas area

565
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Speaker 10: where they celebrate those figures from the past. His legacy

566
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Speaker 10: is so big, it's more than I could say, but

567
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Speaker 10: it lived strong today. My brother is a lawyer and

568
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Speaker 10: down in Las Vegas and he hears so much more

569
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Speaker 10: of how great a man that the we called the

570
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Speaker 10: Judge was, And every single day it's something new popman

571
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Speaker 10: up here, like we just didn't know because you know,

572
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Speaker 10: as a family man, you could get the one side

573
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Speaker 10: of it. You don't get see behind the scenes of

574
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Speaker 10: what he impact on people's lives throughout the community.

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Speaker 1: I've read that his motto was I can and I will,

576
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Speaker 1: and you have taken those words to heart. As a kid,

577
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Speaker 1: you had learning challenges, including dyslexia. Kids can be cruel

578
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Speaker 1: how difficult was it for you?

579
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Speaker 10: I didn't know. I just actually tast twenty one, so

580
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Speaker 10: you just had to figure out different ways of learning

581
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Speaker 10: at that time. There wasn't heavy testing back then, especially

582
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Speaker 10: where I was, so it's taking the challenges as they were.

583
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Speaker 10: But I had a great support system with my family.

584
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Speaker 10: My dad was very big involved in that. He read

585
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Speaker 10: I'm here today is because of him. Reason I got

586
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Speaker 10: I was in college and continue to do that because

587
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Speaker 10: of him and effort he put into it. Like I said,

588
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Speaker 10: back in the early nineties, nobody really wanted to discuss

589
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Speaker 10: and he was head on on at and it says

590
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Speaker 10: from near it was a lot of tutors at, a

591
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Speaker 10: lot of people helping, from teachers making sure I was

592
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Speaker 10: picking it up because everyone learns a different way. And

593
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Speaker 10: if we and known back then that had dyslexia probably

594
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Speaker 10: been a little bit easier. But as the process went

595
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Speaker 10: on through middle elementary, middle school, and high school, it

596
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 10: got better and better and better. So by the time

597
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Speaker 10: I understood that I had dyslexia, it's like, okay, it

598
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 10: makes sense now, you know when the words jump here

599
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 10: and there, But I've never matter asked them. My brother

600
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Speaker 10: was asking me one day I would tall a couple

601
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Speaker 10: of years ago, he said, how does it? How is

602
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Speaker 10: it having? I just don't pay attention to it, like

603
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Speaker 10: everything normal to me. So he said something I wanted

604
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Speaker 10: to know. But I give hope to people that have

605
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Speaker 10: This challenge is not a disease. It's not something to

606
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 10: drop your head about it. It's something. Yeah, it might

607
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 10: take a little bit longer to read a book. Three

608
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Speaker 10: test messages. I learned to embrace what it is. And

609
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Speaker 10: and when I hear story from parents or young adults,

610
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Speaker 10: asked me how that I got through, And I was like,

611
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Speaker 10: is this a challenge? It that you have to take on?

612
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Speaker 10: The whole thing of giving up it should never be there.

613
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 10: You could do anything you put your mind to. And

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Speaker 10: that's just one aspect of it.

615
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Speaker 1: You mentioned your dad. He was a firefighter for more

616
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Speaker 1: than two decades, obviously a dangerous and heroic line of work.

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Speaker 1: How did his example shape you?

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Speaker 10: He just made sure that we did the right thing,

619
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Speaker 10: and he had a great example himself. We come from

620
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Speaker 10: a military background. My uncle's an army rager, my grandpa's

621
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Speaker 10: arm rager. His father was an army His father was

622
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Speaker 10: a police officer, So it comes down from history from

623
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Speaker 10: my grandmother who worked in the school district. We just

624
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 10: had a good model what we should do. But when

625
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Speaker 10: you look at him and you look at first responders

626
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Speaker 10: in the whole aspect of it, they riscialized every single

627
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Speaker 10: day and not knowing they're going to come home to

628
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Speaker 10: their families. And when you grew up with something like that,

629
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Speaker 10: you understand the risk that he was taking for others.

630
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Speaker 10: So when you look into how you should be like,

631
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Speaker 10: you should grow into a way that respect you for

632
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Speaker 10: what you do and how you accomplish yourself and how

633
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Speaker 10: you move around in life. And I think he challenged

634
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Speaker 10: us when we was younger, especially when we were in

635
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Speaker 10: high school, to do more and do better. That's when

636
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Speaker 10: we initially started a turkey drive because he went on

637
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Speaker 10: a call, I want to say, on Christmas Eve and

638
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 10: the family lost everything, and he went to the local

639
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Speaker 10: Soulbot gifts by the turkey and everything, gave it to

640
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Speaker 10: them and say, hey, I know you lost everything, here

641
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Speaker 10: you go, and it was probably the biggest thing. And

642
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 10: then from there on it kind of built through the

643
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Speaker 10: family that this is what we're going to do, and

644
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 10: we did every year with him, and I kind of

645
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 10: took over from there when I got into college and

646
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 10: to do it by myself. But he was an example

647
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Speaker 10: of always caring about others around him, knowing that he

648
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Speaker 10: had his own personal stuff going on. But it's always

649
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Speaker 10: a help in hand to put it out there. It's

650
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Speaker 10: never a hope hand. We see somebody struggling to his

651
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Speaker 10: walk away, and now we're built. You built to be kind,

652
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Speaker 10: he built to care about people.

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Speaker 1: So he helped the fan that lost their home, and

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Speaker 1: you've been doing that ever since from that example.

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Speaker 10: Yes, that's how it literally started from there. Then every

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Speaker 10: single year from there on Thanksgiving, I made sure that

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Speaker 10: I helped people out. And I was think in college

658
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 10: you started with like five to ten people buying full

659
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 10: mills for everybody on Thanksgiving, and then once I got into

660
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 10: the NFL, it kind of just grew from there, you know.

661
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 10: Then the five families came to one hundred families, came

662
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 10: to five hundred families, and it came to Thanksgiving, and

663
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 10: then it went to Christmas. Then they want to get

664
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 10: back to schools. So it kind of just kind of

665
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 10: developed to itself to what meant a lot to me.

666
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 10: And I think every single year I opened my house

667
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 10: up for any of my teammates that didn't have a

668
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 10: place to go, because like, in my mind, I always

669
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 10: wanted to make sure that somebody had food on the

670
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 10: table and a family to be around.

671
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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Lawrence. Guy. When did you become hooked

672
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: on football? And when did you start to stand out

673
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: among your peers.

674
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 10: I'll be honest with you. My brother I got two

675
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 10: brothers and we're both older. And one of my brothers there,

676
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 10: he's like two years apart from me. He was like,

677
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 10: hey man, he said, He said, you're here, like, I

678
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 10: won't play out of the school. You want to join me?

679
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 10: That's cool if you don't even take the bus? And

680
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 10: I like, well, I got nothing else to do what

681
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 10: this dude is And from there I said, like I

682
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 10: kind of do this. I liked it. Then I went

683
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 10: too wrestling, and I went to track. I feel was

684
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 10: doing track. Then they developed from there and he developed

685
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 10: that passion. I wasn't the pop wanter kid, I said,

686
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 10: but no, I didn't really do pop wanter, but it

687
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 10: was when in high school. I love this, the sportsmanship,

688
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 10: I love the brotherhood that you build on that field

689
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 10: and nothing like it. And from there it kind of

690
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 10: took off. And I want to say, I didn't really

691
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 10: know I stood out from my peers, and I want

692
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 10: to say until junior year and somebody told me. They

693
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 10: told me there ranking in the state, and I had

694
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 10: no idea, and I was like, okay, cool. And then

695
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 10: I just kept in there and it's kept going and

696
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 10: going because it's not about where you're ranked at. It's

697
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 10: about the challenge and getting better every single day and

698
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 10: competing with the people next to you and having that

699
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 10: good time in building that relationships.

700
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: You played college football at Arizona State, where your teammates

701
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: included former Bengal von Tees Berfect, who had seven mostly

702
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: good years in Cincinnati. What was he like as a

703
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: college teammate.

704
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 10: It was awesome. Ye what I'm saying it was Tests.

705
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 10: I can't say nothing bad about Tests. I love the

706
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 10: way they played. We had a great run Mee and

707
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 10: him at that school, even to the play into the NFL.

708
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 10: You look at the story and how he came in,

709
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 10: what he was able to do. He's a heck of

710
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 10: a player. He can't take no credit for away from

711
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 10: what he was able to do in this league. How impressive.

712
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 10: If he was in the passion. He asked, what it

713
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 10: especially when it comes to College's like, it's the same

714
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 10: effort that he had in NFL that he did in college,

715
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 10: and it's very impressive to see and to see the

716
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 10: growth of every single year. Kind of was he was

717
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 10: still playing, but you know, circumcessions happened by he was

718
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 10: a great teammate even off the field. Very quiet, but

719
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 10: such a great person to be around.

720
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: We're visiting with Lawrence Guy. This is your fourteenth NFL season.

721
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: The bulk of your career has been spent with the

722
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, where you played in two Super Bowls

723
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: and one to one beating the Rams in Super Bowl

724
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Speaker 1: fifty three. You were named to the Patriots All Decade

725
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Team for the twenty tens. What did you enjoy most

726
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: about your time in Foxborough?

727
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Speaker 10: Well, one, you know, it's always amazing to get opportunity

728
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 10: to play for that team. Leaving Baltimore, they gave him

729
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 10: an opportunity to play, and it was amazing where I

730
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 10: went from from leaving Maryland and going there and where

731
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 10: my talent is exploded. There an opportunity that gave me.

732
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 10: But it was it was enjoying. I built so much

733
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 10: lifetime friendships on that team, the sparings of being coached

734
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 10: by Bill Belichick, Matt Patricia, like I cherished the moments

735
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 10: every single day, had four kids there. You know, my

736
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 10: daughter was born there, so she seven years that we

737
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 10: just grew and then like I said, they built built

738
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 10: lifetime friendships there. But understanding that mixture of it. If

739
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 10: you know Boston, if you know how the culture was there,

740
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 10: it was football and everything, but it wasn't just more

741
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 10: than that field and the friendships I built on a field,

742
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 10: the chemistry the super Bowl is more more than the community.

743
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 10: The community backed me one hundred percent on everything I

744
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 10: wanted to do, especially the accumulations and mister Kraft and

745
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 10: what they helped me do, build my foundation and help

746
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 10: me with venues to every event that I had. It's

747
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 10: a blessing that he experience that I tell people all

748
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 10: the time, and you could tear the just of a

749
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 10: person by what they do. And mits Prats donated twenty

750
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 10: thousand dollars in me in May well before we parted

751
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 10: with with that team. But I never forget the memories.

752
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 10: I never forget that the passion that we put on

753
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 10: the field. Like I said, a lot of time franchis

754
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 10: we put out there. It's always unique. Every single year,

755
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 10: every single team has its own unique dynamic, and I

756
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 10: chased every one of them.

757
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: They signed you as a free agent and then gave

758
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: you a contract extension, which suggests how much Bill Belichick

759
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: believed in you. What did you do to earn his respect?

760
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 10: You just work hard, You just do I think it's

761
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 10: it's Selegan going to do your job. That's what that's

762
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 10: what I did. I did my job. I did the

763
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 10: best I could help mentor the gun guys. And I said,

764
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 10: I worked in the community what she was supposed to do,

765
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 10: Like I don't have all the thou off the field

766
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 10: and takes houses. Enjoying the game, and that's what Bill

767
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 10: up he loved. If you enjoy the game, respect the game,

768
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 10: and you put the work in. Whatever you put in

769
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 10: this game, but you're gonna get out of it and

770
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 10: the show there.

771
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Tom Brady memory?

772
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 10: Oh, man, I want said the super Bowl. This is

773
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 10: him just going over there and we just won the

774
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 10: super Bowl. There's so many memories of him and so

775
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 10: many stuff just going to leave hilone. But Tom was

776
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 10: a great guy. Like Tom Gronk, Jewels, Danny Amadell. They're

777
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 10: all amazing people. I can't I can't say nothing bad

778
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 10: about them, had great memories with them.

779
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: All right, some wild card topics. Now to wrap things

780
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: up with Lawrence guy, who's your all time favorite athlete

781
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: in any sport?

782
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 10: And why Kobe like Kobe did so much in the

783
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 10: in the game. Let's be real, when you shoot a shot,

784
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 10: retire most people like not even to send the time

785
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 10: people saying Kobe, like your legacy can't be better than that?

786
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 10: When when somebody thing Kobe, when you shoot a shot

787
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 10: every single time.

788
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Most people listening to this are familiar with the elf

789
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: on the shelf. You have apparently brought that into NFL

790
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: locker rooms.

791
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, I did it.

792
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 10: For it from years hiding the elf on the shelf

793
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 10: and in the locker room it went. It went from

794
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 10: one gesture to another, then it is continued and continued.

795
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 10: Nobody knew it was me. It was a thing. Nobody

796
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 10: had no idea until the media came along and they

797
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 10: and they kind of spoiled it for me. And I

798
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 10: could tell you. Bill looked at me like, I'm like, alright, cool,

799
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 10: I'm gonna to slow it down on that phe But yeah,

800
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 10: I did everything the year we hit it every year

801
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 10: with a fun gesture. You know, we we come in

802
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 10: here so much and it worked so hard. And the

803
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 10: thing that belief is something so small. If adjust there,

804
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 10: it could make somebody happy and laugh. And it came

805
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 10: in like a whole thing. Me and the equipment went

806
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 10: all into it. And see them tamates they stole to

807
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 10: el then brought more l So it came fun in

808
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 10: an environment that was very You know, it's hard to

809
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 10: play in an NFL, so it's a lot of exhausting.

810
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 10: So at that time of the year, when something so

811
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 10: small is so happy, it's amazing.

812
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of your teammates will hear

813
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: this interview, So might the elf in the shelf be

814
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: introduced to the Bengals locker room when we hit that

815
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: time of year.

816
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 10: I pleaded a fifth on that with this elf, I

817
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 10: plead a fifth.

818
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: All right, your secret is safe with us. You have

819
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: a gigantic tattoo of a lion on your back, just

820
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: a cool design or is their personal meeting?

821
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 10: I had another tattoo there and my oldest start didn't

822
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 10: like it. She flat out told me she was like, Daddy,

823
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 10: I don't like a tattoo. And I said, all right,

824
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 10: I'll give it. I get it covered up, and I covered.

825
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: Up with the lion.

826
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Speaker 10: This is a sentimental thing, you know, courage and bravery.

827
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 10: But I probably would have kept their original one and

828
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 10: probably try to get it fixed more than it was.

829
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 10: But my oldest when she said it, it got to

830
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Speaker 10: be done. And I remember talking to one of my teammates,

831
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 10: teachers Whise. I was like, hey, man, I said, my

832
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 10: daughter just told me she didn't like my tattoo. And

833
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 10: he's like, oh really. Then two years later I got

834
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Speaker 10: it covered. He'd like, I had a feeling you're going

835
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 10: and get a cover. He said, you've been like I

836
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 10: was in year ten, like it's been so long you

837
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 10: had it. And I did it for her, and be

838
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 10: honest with that, I covered it for her because she

839
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 10: said this was a lot better than the one before.

840
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 10: I also had the tattoo on my arm and she

841
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 10: didn't like that. She she sat there for a whole

842
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 10: summer with water and tower try to rub it off.

843
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 10: You can't really see no more because of the sun

844
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 10: and faded. But she I don't like it no more.

845
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 10: Then she told me not to get no more.

846
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: You're from Las Vegas, one of the most popular tourist

847
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: destinations in the world. What's your favorite thing about home.

848
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 10: And the atmosphere of it?

849
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 4: The lights?

850
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 10: I think that ready says, when you get there, how

851
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 10: do you speak? You'd see the lights from the airplane.

852
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 10: It's amazing feeling, you that warming feeling. But families there.

853
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 10: I got a lot of families so there, so it's

854
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 10: always good to see them. It's always good to see

855
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 10: the new attractions. People always wanted what they do there.

856
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 10: There's so many shows. There's so many attractions. I've never

857
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 10: My mom worked for the Stratosphere, so we used to

858
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 10: go to the stratifair shows once a year and it's

859
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 10: amazing feeling.

860
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: Then.

861
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 10: The best thing about that is for the fourth of July,

862
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 10: every hotel half hour short show. When I was younger,

863
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 10: they don't do it no more, but every single one

864
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 10: you get to see him. It's flying off, he's sat

865
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 10: on the roof and you really have to do nothing

866
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 10: to see him going. It was amazing feeling, all right.

867
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Final fun fact for Lawrence Guy. This one's kind of deep.

868
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: If you could meet anybody in history, living or deceased.

869
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Who would that person.

870
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 10: Be Alexander the Great?

871
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: Then?

872
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 4: Like why?

873
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 10: Like because you have to think about it. He conquered

874
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 10: so much and to this day that he's still a mystery.

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Speaker 10: And that's one of the things that I'd love to

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Speaker 1: A great answer, Lawrence, Guy, This has been fun. Appreciate

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