1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Spread out action right side by my homes. All kinds 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: of time, pump taking now fires, somebody's caught in the 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: end zone to Marcus Robinson touchdown chansall City snap looking left, 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: still looking left, now throwing left has Mike Williams jumps, 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: catches touchdown Chargers. Mike Williams. That was huge. Rivers in 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the shotgun, looks to the right for Mike Williams. Throws 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: a Mike Williams caught touchdown, touchdown Chargers. Mike Williams with 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: his third of the day, and this is the game. 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Shotgun snap, Rivers rolls to the right, throws to the end. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Dug pot. It's good, It's good. Mike Williams with the ground. 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Chargers lead twenty nine, still four seconds left in this game. 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: There was no one. The closest cheek was in Kansas City, 13 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Kansas oh Oh. Matt money Smith, the voice of the 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, with the call and a beautiful 15 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: call by Money the Los Angeles Chargers on a Philip 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Rivers to Mike Williams touchdown from one yard out and 17 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: then the onions, onions for days for Anthony Lynne. They 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: go for two and yes, Williams wide open on a 19 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: busted coverage. The two point conversion also good, and that 20 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: was it. The Chargers stunned the Chiefs. I mean, you 21 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: want to talk about stunning defeats, ones that stick to 22 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: your ribs. The Chiefs eat it here. The Chargers win 23 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: twenty nine to and all of a sudden, there is 24 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: a tie atop the a f C West Bolt teams 25 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: eleven and three and the and the schedule the way 26 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: it sets up, the Chargers have a chance here to 27 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: steal the West and who would have thought that was possible? 28 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: Dan Hands is here, uh solo to get us going 29 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: on our Thursday night recap and preview show. The rest 30 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: of the boys will join me in a few minutes, 31 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: but we gotta break down this game. Uh. The Chargers 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: score fifteen points in the final three forty nine of regulation. 33 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: This was a tn F game for the Ages and 34 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: it is for me another example of this is not 35 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: the same old Chargers. And you know we we talked 36 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: about that two weeks ago in Pittsburgh. When like in 37 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: this game where the Charges fell behind fourteen nothing on 38 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: the road in Arrowhead and you're thinking they're cooked, uh, 39 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: and they came back in this game two weeks ago 40 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, they fall behind by multiple scores going into 41 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: the half at Pittsburgh. They come back and win that game. 42 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: That was a game the Chargers never win. Last week, 43 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: even the home game against Cincinnati a classic moment where 44 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers of old stubbed their toe against an inferior 45 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: opponent and just kind of blow their season or costs 46 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: themselves dearly in a classic traff game. They don't do that. 47 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: They take care of business. Okay, but you're not gonna 48 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: hand out a lollipop, because a good teams should take 49 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: care of business at home against the bad team like 50 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals. But this game, let there be no doubt 51 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: that this is a new Chargers team. And I want 52 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: to point out one player that's gonna kind of get 53 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: forgotten in all the drama of this game. And it 54 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: was a great game, my goodness, and the end of 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: this game in the fourth quarter in particular, it will 56 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: be forgotten. But if you want to talk about how 57 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: this is not the same old Chargers, after they pull 58 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: within seven in the fourth quarter and they get a 59 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: stop and they and they make the Chiefs punt uh 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: deep in their own territory, Desmond King catches the ball 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: on the Chargers side of the forty and musts it. 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: He must the punt and any other Chargers team through 63 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: the through the years. He mufts that punt punt, he 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: kicks it away three or four yards, the opposing team 65 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: falls on it, and the next day or the old 66 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Jeuser here in the studio is talking about, Oh, they 67 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: were all set up the Chargers. They would have had 68 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: the ball near midfield with a chance to tire or 69 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: even go for the wind. And they blew it, and 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: the and the Chiefs sneak away because the Chargers couldn't 71 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: look in the mirror and got scared off by the reflection. 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: But no, that's not what happened. The Chargers UH retained possession. 73 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Desmond King falls on his own fumble, and then the 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: great Philip Rivers goes to work on the final drive, 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: which covered eight plays and sixty yards uh and and 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: most importantly, well, the most important thing is that they 77 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, but also important was the way it 78 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: all played out. When they finally do get in the 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: end zone and a big DP I call set them 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: up near the goal line. Ahead of that, there's only 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: four I can sign. The clock, okay, and that means 82 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: no chance for the Chiefs to make a comeback. And 83 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: that was equally important because you could imagine a scenario 84 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: where the the Chiefs then get the ball back and 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: forget about it. Uh. They they score, they score in 86 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: the game ends, but it doesn't work out that way. 87 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: The Chargers win the game. And I'm shocked talking about it, 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: because the Chiefs were in control of this game. Like 89 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: I said, they jump out fourteen zip and it certainly 90 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: looked at first like it would be a three and 91 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: a half hour tribute uh to Patrick Mahomes, which would 92 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: be earned, because he entered this game as the m 93 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: v P favorite, and I still think he probably wins 94 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: m v P. But they have that incredible first drive 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: where they just marched down the field after a River's 96 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: interception and uh, and Mahomes does another thing like he's 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can only uh he does things that 98 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: no other quarterback and do. He he lulled the Chargers 99 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: defense to sleep and then just kind of flung it 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: into the end zone to get him on the board. 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: They go. They score the next possession as well, and 102 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: it's fourteen zip and you're thinking, my goodness, um. But 103 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: then the Chargers defense held and got it together, uh 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: and picked up picked it up, and you have you 105 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: have to give credit also at at first it felt 106 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: like the the Chiefs defense that would be the story 107 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: of this game, that uh, their ability with the the 108 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: offense kind of went into a slump after the first 109 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: two scores. But they Sackville Rivers on their defense. Sacksville 110 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: Rivers four times causes to uh you know, uh forces 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: two interceptions and you think they're gonna take care of business. 112 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: But the Chargers uh kept kept charging and held the 113 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Chiefs the twenty eight points. The Chiefs have scored at 114 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: least points in nineteen straight games, as there's an NFL record. 115 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: But you have to you have to say and we 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: talked about this on the podcast podcast when we previewed 117 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: this show. We previewed this game that if you hold 118 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs under third, you've got to find out find 119 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: a way to win. And it would have been bitterly 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: disappointing if the Chargers held the Chiefs under thirty and 121 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: couldn't score enough points. But they did. They scored just 122 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: enough points. They scored twenty nine points. Uh. My other 123 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: thoughts about this game is as impressive as you can be. 124 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: And Phil Rivers, after that slow start in the first 125 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: half again reminded us why he's such an Maybe Mahomes 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: is the more exciting quarterback, but Rivers is an all timer. 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: And this is this goes down. This is gonna be 128 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: one of his great uh, one of his great UH 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: stories one day when he's inducted into Canton and who 130 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: knows where this season goes because he can go anywhere 131 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: for the Chargers now, But this is one of his 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: greatest moments UH. And the fact that he did it 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: without Melvin Gordon in the backfield, who was out for 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: the third straight game with that knee injury, without Keenan 135 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: Allen who went out of the game with a hip 136 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: UH injury, and he found a way and he turned 137 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Mike Williams into a number one receiver. And if Mike 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: this is the this hopefully is a wake up call 139 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: to the Chargers that make Mike Williams a bigger part 140 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: of their offense. The run, touch rushing touchdown to receiving 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns and the two point catch. This guy can play ball. 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: So they are really set up and UH, we'll see 143 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: how the Chiefs go from here. They have to go 144 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: to Seattle now. And this is what I was talking about. 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Why why you have a shot here if you're the 146 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Chargers to steal this division. Uh, the Chargers have home 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and at Denver. Not easy slate thrust of 148 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: the way, but easy. They can win twelve here, they 149 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: can get to perhaps here and go into Seattle. The 150 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: way Seattle is playing right now is gonna be a tough, 151 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: tough ask for Mahome. So if he's gonna win m VP, 152 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna earn it. And and that includes going into 153 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Seattle and getting a win. And my final thought in 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: the game, and I'm glad it kind of got pushed 155 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: aside because of the theatrics and the incredible way this 156 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: game ended. But the officiating, I mean, you've got to 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: get out of the way, guys, come back to us officials. 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: Some of these sticky tach calls, especially against the Chargers. 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: It felt like, Uh, if you're a Chargers fan, I'm 160 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: sure you're ripping your hair out, you're on the road, 161 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: You're you're playing your heart out. Uh, and you can't 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: seem to get a call to go your way. And 163 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: now Chiefs fans will counter with well, what about that 164 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: d p I on the Charger's final drive. Well, Mike 165 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Pereira said it was a penalty. It's good enough for me, right, Kim. 166 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: You know what prayers like the one guy I trust 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to this, uh, when it comes to 168 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you throw it to the half. These officials that are 169 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: retired that they get hired, they were incompetent to start with, 170 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: and they're either half in a coma or so old 171 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: that they might not even hear with the saying Pereira, right, 172 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: buy into that guy. These at the booth for a reason, right, yeah, exactly. Anyway, 173 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: So there you go. Great game, and we've got more 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: games to get to. All of the week fifteen action 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: is previewed right now, and I will rejoin the rest 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: of my friends. I go, oh, I don't know where 177 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: West is at right now, but we'll lass who has 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: a slim advantage over the Sizzler in the lock challenge. 179 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: You picked the Chiefs in this game who are ahead 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: for fifty nine minutes and fifty six seconds. All right, 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: that's it, Let's get to the rest of the week. 182 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Action be around the NFL podcast is part of Tamposey's 183 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: plot to Overthrow NFL Networks. Welcome back to another edition 184 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. 185 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm joined in a room filled with heroes, Mark Cessler, 186 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is a boys? Hey? Dan? 187 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: How is everybody on this Thursday? You heard at the 188 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: top of the show the old suser broke down the 189 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: great Thursday night football matchup between the Chargers and Chiefs, 190 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: And it is another um uh benchmark for the season. 191 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: No more Thursday night games now and now you got 192 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Christmas right around the corner where it's over. Mark, the 193 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: whole season is over. Basically, we are in the home stretch. 194 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: It's far from Mark when a see hello. We are 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,359 Speaker 1: we are closer to what I consider the biggest celebration 196 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: of the year, the end of the regular season, when 197 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: you can wave farewell to a wild rash of trash 198 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: bag franchises that can go try to figure their act 199 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: out and come back again next September. But go away. 200 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: We don't have to see you again in your putrid 201 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: operations until next year. I'm a sucker. I I'll miss 202 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night football like I legitimately get excited that Okay, 203 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: there's a game only two days away. Like, I'm excited. 204 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Saturday is cool that you get a little extra day 205 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: of football, Saturday football games and stuff like. And it's 206 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: the last time I'm a sucker for it in our 207 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: life that the Jets and Browns were both on prime time, 208 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: not prime time, but national television on the same day. Yeah, 209 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I wish the circumstances are a little bit more, 210 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: probably when we played in the playoffs. I do like, Uh, 211 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun a Saturday, and we're gonna get 212 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: to those games first. In fact, let's get to the games. 213 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Saturday games. What the hell, let's 214 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: just do it right West Yeah, West wearing the evolutionary 215 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: Fred Roger sweater that I quite enjoy I like it. 216 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Fred Rogers one of my favorite Americans of all time, 217 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: you know. And I thought that was the movie of 218 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the year. Great, Yes, that would definitely be on my 219 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: top ten list. Won't you be my neighbor? And when 220 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: you have children, Weston, it's not too far away, because 221 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you something, Barney's on the way. Yeah, 222 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: you're getting married in May, and there will be very 223 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: little honeymoon period. Just that's my prediction there will be Uh. 224 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: I think I mapped this out traveling the country together. 225 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: And you've been traveling the country for the last twenty years. 226 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: You've been on a journey, my friend, that's coming to 227 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: an end. A new journey begins and it includes a child. 228 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you got four plus decades in so it's okay. Look, 229 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a man who makes use of my free 230 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: time for a lot of years. My point being is 231 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: that all of all of Mr Rogers Neighborhood is on 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Amazon and I've been introducing it to my children and 233 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: it's great. That's beside the point. What we got to 234 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: focus on a Saturday football uh. Starting with the Houston 235 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Texans nine and four Uh. They got picked off at 236 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: home by the Colts um uh last Sunday, three point loss. Uh. 237 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: And now they get to get a chance to get 238 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: right again against the Jets, who are four and nine. Um. 239 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: But showed a little bit of fight Mark Sessler uh 240 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: last Sunday in Buffalo against a good Bills defense, wiping 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: out a big deficit and winning the game late in 242 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So maybe with Sam Donald playing, this 243 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: is a game that is going to challenge the Texans. 244 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I'll let you guys talk about the Texans a little bit, 245 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: but I when I think about this game, and I, 246 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: as I just mentioned, this is a prime opportunity for 247 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the Jets and Jets fans to sit down and watch 248 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: Sam Donald have the game that we can think about 249 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: all offseason. You're on national television, you're at home. And 250 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: what I would love to see is more of what 251 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: happened in the second half against the Bills. He made 252 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: two incredible throws. One was this on the run, reverse 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: field touchdown toss to Robby Anderson and then down with 254 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: with seconds to go in the game, hit him on 255 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: what I thought his best throw of the entire season, 256 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: which they have not let him do, and they finally did. 257 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I want more of that and less of the haphazard 258 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: sort of tossed the ball into double coverage interception he 259 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: had in the first half and what could have been 260 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a second. This is the game where why not go 261 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: punch for punch with the Shawn Watson. The Texans have 262 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: given up like three and fifty yards passing two games 263 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: in a row. You know, let's try to see that. 264 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what I'm unrolling what I 265 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: think could be a new nickname for Donald for this 266 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: game if he gets it done. Unfarro, are you gonna 267 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: wait unless he wins right right now? Starn because listen, no, 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: because if he's good, if he's if he does something 269 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: really well, you could be like Starn. But if he 270 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: f s up, you'd be like, oh, starn, darn, very flexible, 271 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: darn it. But you I make you think of like 272 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the S word and darn, both of which aren't positive 273 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: us censored like that, like you spend it positive. But 274 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: I am so confident that the Jets are going to 275 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: get this done that I am going to watch it 276 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: at four eastern one thirty Pacific exclusively on NFL Network. 277 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Nice promo, you gotta be in there. But you like 278 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: that he did the promo? Well yeah, at least he's 279 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, someone was gonna I'm a company man, and uh, 280 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think Colleen's at the stadium for that game. 281 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: It's it's it's exciting is getting workout. They center all 282 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: over the place. I think the Jets have a shot 283 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: in this game, a shot. I mean the Texans have 284 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: some defined weaknesses. They their offensive line, and Watson seemed 285 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: to struggle with blitzes. I think the Jets in their 286 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: best games this year, cook up a lot of pretty 287 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: creative blitzes, and Bowls Bowls can do that. They don't 288 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: have a natural passwort, but you would think they would 289 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: just blitz the heck out of Watson, which the Colts 290 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: did a good job of last week. They don't really 291 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: have a third receiver. When you have to play Joe 292 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Webb as a third receiver, you're in trouble. And they 293 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: might get Kik Qt back this week. It sounds like 294 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: hopefully he's healthy and that that's a big lot. That's 295 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: been a big loss for them. Weirdly and uh and 296 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: then they have Sharise right playing starting cornerback, who no 297 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: matter what team he's on, it's like he's the weakness 298 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: of the defense. He's been on a different decent team 299 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: every year for the last four years. That could it 300 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: just gets targeted. Maybe that's changing, but I'm just saying 301 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: they have some weaknesses. Good thing the haver Aaron Covin 302 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: has been out for almost two months and he's he 303 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: just came back last week, I think, and I think 304 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: you'll see Andre how play more. And I think they 305 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: want Sharis Sharis right to play less. The same concern 306 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Mark that you had two weeks ago against the Browns was, well, 307 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: how does how does my offensive line stack up against 308 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: the pass rush of the Texans. Well, the truth of 309 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: matter is that the Browns, as you know, Mark, have 310 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: been much improved in past protection lately. That the Jets, 311 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: that whole line stinks, and it's probably that's one of 312 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: their big offseason projects is going to be to overhaul 313 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: that line. Uh So, that is my concern is that 314 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Donald and you want to see him to progress, but 315 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: if he doesn't have any time to throw in a 316 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, it's a recipe for disaster. So I don't 317 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: feel good about the game. But you know what I 318 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: do feel good about. I cannot remember the last time 319 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: in like the eight years I've worked here that Daddy's 320 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: been able to, you know, pour a couple of Tito's 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: and watch a Jets game with a son out. It's 322 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: been a while. It's a strange combination of events. But yeah, 323 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: it probably never at the NFL network, it's it has 324 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: not happened. Let's move on, so, you know, and I'm 325 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: not maybe get a little drunk, not like sloppy, drunk, 326 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: but you know, feel a little buzz and maybe if 327 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: U s Darn gets hot, it's gonna be the best 328 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Saturday in the long time. See where we are when 329 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the Browns games happening? After that? All right, right after 330 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: the Jets wrap up their surprise win over the Texans 331 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: at the meadow Lands, they will throw it to the 332 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who are five seven and one. As we 333 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: talked about and Wednesday's show, they have a um a chance, 334 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: a very small chance, but a chance to be in 335 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: position to steal the a f C North if things 336 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: go right. Uh, if everything goes right and get back 337 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: to the playoffs for the first time since my own. 338 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: But here's their opponent, the Denver Broncos Chris Westling, who 339 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: are coming off an embarrassing loss at San Francisco. Seems 340 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: to set up well for the Brownies. Yeah, what you 341 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: have here is your classic clash of the Chubbs, oh 342 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: chub two of the best rookie classes in the league. 343 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: And you have the Browns bypassing Bradley chub to take 344 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: Denzel Award, who won't play because he's concussed two straight weeks. 345 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: He's out um and the hot shot rookie, of course, 346 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield, who leads the NFL and yards per 347 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: attempt since Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley were fired. That 348 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: is amazing. It's unreal. I mean, his first half he 349 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: had last week I think ranks with any half just 350 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: about that any quarterback I had all season. It was 351 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: phenomenal if you off against Minnesota. I mean there were 352 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: some others, but that the variety of the throwers. Of course, 353 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: the first throw of the game, which was just outrageous, 354 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: but the touch that the variety in terms of the 355 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: touch he can throw to in Joku. But then the 356 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: throw that really got me was when he flattened out 357 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: the fifty five yarder to Jarvis Landry. And so he's 358 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: like a picture that can throw it any speed, and 359 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: he knew with with the way that play was setting up, 360 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: he couldn't throw one of those rainbows in there. He 361 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: had to flatten it out fifty five yards down the 362 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: field to beat the coverage. And he just does it. 363 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: He has like a pitch for every scenario. That's why 364 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: he's so fun to watch. It was a nice job 365 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: by Landry pulling the ball and there was a catch 366 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: probability on that throw and he stuck it in there? 367 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Do you believe that? I don't. Yeah, that's one where 368 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: that is I love the next gen stats, but the 369 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: percent of chance that you had to complete the throw 370 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: when you throw it. So I feel like it's one 371 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: of those scientific advancements that it's like ten years from 372 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: now it will be a lot more fine. Also, you 373 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: know what that means factor like if it used to 374 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: treat by like electroshock therapy. Now that's not really thought 375 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: of as a good idea you make scientific You guys 376 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: are going off a hunch though, which might be right. 377 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: They do have data. They're not just pulling this like 378 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: it's like in baseball analytics in the nineteen seventies the 379 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Four Runners came out with defensive stats that fifteen years 380 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: later everyone said, hey, nice try, but these things precise. 381 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: It's too precise for something that's inherently just say that 382 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: about anything, just next gen stats. Factor and what if 383 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: a bird were to fly into Charvis Landry's helmet while 384 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: it would go down, but has that factored into There's 385 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: all sorts of things that could happen. I've talked to 386 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: the people. I actually asked the bird. Question absolutely for that, 387 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: and that's very thorough. If they've packed that in there 388 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and it would lower it. Actually, do you want to 389 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: hear it? I do. I mean, if the bird flew 390 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: into Jarvis Landry's face mask, it would subtract fift from 391 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: his catch probability, leaving zero percent. Well, that checks out. 392 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: This works. This limb of the company is at a 393 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: different level than we are. So other thoughts. I I'm 394 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: a little worried about von Miller and Bradley Chubb against 395 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson. Oh I thought you were worried about the Broncos. No, No, not, 396 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: I mean that Greg Robbins. The fact that they were 397 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: were lying so much and like Greg Robinson's kind of 398 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: short up that left tackle spot. It's like, yeah, that 399 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: can last for about two or three weeks, and that 400 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: ended last week where he did not play well at all. 401 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: And just the idea of Greg Robinson going up against 402 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: those two guys they do catch a break shack. Barrett 403 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: being out has has definitely hurt them, But that would 404 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: be the recipe I think for the Broncos to win 405 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: is to force some mistakes with quick pressure. Well, there 406 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: may be a lot of quick passes and screens, and 407 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: I think that the one thing that bit Mayfield has 408 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: done a good job of him when there has been pressure, 409 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: He's not forcing the ball to what would be his 410 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: first read. He's he has the ability to sort of 411 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: see the whole field, and he had some great dump 412 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: offs to Nick Chubb and maybe Bradley Chubb. I want us, 413 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: they're all cousins. I want to see them. That what 414 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: you what you're forgetting, Greg, is that the Broncos are 415 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: going to be without their Pro Bowl cornerback Chris Harris 416 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: for this game. This is the first game he's missing, right, 417 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, people don't think. People don't really pack her 418 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: in the Chris Harron's Chris, are you gonna Are you 419 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna Guardad Peerman without Chris Harris? Not gonna happen. Well, 420 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: you put Chris Harris on him, He's out. I mean. 421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: The good thing this joke, assuming the Broncos gona make 422 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs, has a shelf life of about two more 423 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: episodes of this, and that's the Broncos will be done. 424 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: I think it expired. Like I mean, I think we'll 425 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: keep going. We'll keep going back to the well. It's 426 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: definitely a little stale it's one of those you like, look, 427 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: it's a couple of past days. You're just like, it's crunchy. 428 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: But you know what happens, We'll keep going back when 429 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: when it starts to get Mark a little angry, that 430 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: that pumps a lot of life into you know, So 431 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden is it's a wild card. Not 432 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: angry yet. Uh get excited though, Mark, this is fun. 433 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: I am excited for this for the same reasons you are. 434 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had a day 435 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: off from work. Watching them play primetime on of than 436 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Week three, when they knocked the Jets essentially out of 437 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: contention in September seemed unnecessary, But I don't know. I 438 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: was I should lock up the broncos I was trying 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: to finish the center because I realized my factor is 440 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: wrong in the middle of what I said, so I apologize. Um, 441 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna thinking about locking up the Browns, but 442 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing they're not ready to 443 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: do yet go win big games on the road. I 444 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: don't think they're there. They Also, it's not just denzil Board. 445 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: Philip Gaines is out as turn Terrence Mitchell, and it's 446 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: not that the Broncos have a lot through the air, 447 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: but they're a little banged up there a little better 448 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: team though. Let's move to Sunday's games now, um, and 449 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Mark and I will be in the office 450 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: for these. We'll see how it all plays out. But 451 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals three and ten, who cares? Lost seventeen three 452 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: to the Lions last week, and I don't know if 453 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: you guys fired this one up on the game pass, 454 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: but it was not the most exciting football game to 455 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: lay your eyes on. And now they travel to Atlanta 456 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: to face the Falcons. The Falcons lose every week. They stink, 457 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: then they haven't There were four and four once, weren't they? 458 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: Who the the Birds? The Falcons? And they will attempt 459 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: to do something that they haven't done since the first 460 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Sunday of November. Greg which is scored more than twenty points. Well, 461 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: you gotta worry if you're the Cardinals because coming into 462 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: the coming into Atlanta and the Georgia Dome at this 463 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: time of year, I mean, that's like a few extra touchdowns. 464 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: The crowd, just the crowd. This is the deadest crowd 465 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: in the league, even when the games matter. And I 466 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: can't imagine how dead it's gonna be for Cardinals Falcons. 467 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be terrible. Well, they had a solution in 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: the past for quiet crowds. Do you remember what that was? 469 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Pop it in? Didn't work so well for them now 470 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: and Eugene Robinson out on the town, Well, that was 471 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: a previous solution. By the way, Dean Jones has has 472 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: been back and their defense is still bad. I do 473 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: think dan Quinn has been given too much of a 474 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: pass for coaching the last ranked defense in the league 475 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders. I used to get mad, really 476 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: mad in fact, and probably he was still a mistake, 477 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: but the Jets hired Todd Bowls essentially over dan Quinn 478 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to wait out the Super Bowl. 479 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Um here, he makes no sense, never made sense, and 480 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: I was killing I was so mad after the first 481 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: two or three years. But now I don't know is 482 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Quinn really I know he's probably better than Bowls, but 483 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: it's not like we missed out on a once in 484 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: a generation coaching talent. I agree any other thoughts on 485 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: this game, I would say that save time for the 486 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: game that matters. It was embarrassing to watch that Falcons 487 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Packers game and see at lanted down thirty four to 488 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: seven based off sloppy offense. And you know, this was 489 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: a group of players that were high quality earlier in 490 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: the year and they've fallen apart entirely and West I 491 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: know you you kind of think Steve Sarkasian doesn't deserve 492 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: to be roasted, but they probably need to finish strong 493 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: here or they have to improve him on what they've 494 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: done for the past five weeks for him to be safe. 495 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: My stands on Steve Sarkasian is he should not be 496 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: blamed because the Falcons lost both starting guards and they're 497 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: starting running back and they have a one dimensional offense. 498 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's one of the brightest offensive minds 499 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: in the league. I just think like he would be 500 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: a fall guy if he gets fired. Let's move on 501 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or five and eight. That whatever 502 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: was left of their playoff chances um kind of went 503 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: out the window when they could not upset the Saints. 504 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Although he was looking, you're trying to tell me the 505 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: Giants are alive at five and eight, why not the Bucks? 506 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: Well they're technically alive, but whatever, like real chances they 507 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: had the Giants are alive in a whole different Jizs 508 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: are alive and well, and you know it, it's worst. 509 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: They're both dead. Both have last That's better than zero, 510 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: thank you. The Bucks travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens, 511 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: who saw other three game winning streak snapped mark by 512 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but it was oh so close. Do you 513 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: think they get back to their winning ways here? It 514 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: seems like they might the Ravens. Yeah, I do. I 515 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: get him a chance. I mean, I'm in trouble with 516 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: the Ravens because watching them, because I didn't really get 517 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: a chance to watch that closely on Sunday, it kind 518 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: of hit me that this team is playing. I know 519 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: everyone likes these forty to forty two games. That's great, 520 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: have a have a nice time with it, and if 521 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: you don't, then you're an awful person, like you're not 522 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: with it. But I find what the Ravens have been 523 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: doing like almost highly erotic. I love these like these 524 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: insane seven ten play drives where all they do is 525 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: run the ball over and over and over, and they 526 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: essentially take the opponent's defense and pound them in the salt. 527 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: I think that Lamar Jackson feels like he's a rock 528 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: dropped off a building. When he's running, he's suddenly twelve 529 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: fifteen yards of field. I can't help I love watching 530 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: these guys, and I love watching them so much, and 531 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm so sure they're going to knock out this ugly 532 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: uniform Bucks team that I'm this time for real locking 533 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: it up. Oh this is available. Oh yes, I'll do 534 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: anything I want. I mean, yes, it wouldn't be by 535 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: you know the you know, the the touchdown. There's been 536 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of nonsense going on lately. This is my nonsense. 537 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: What can you specifically people picking the Patriots at home, 538 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: the Texans at home, but all of those, for what 539 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: it's worth, they were even lower face. I simply don't care. 540 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean I like them, that care with I like them. 541 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm with here though, that the Ravens are kind of erotic. 542 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Did you hear some of the sounds coming from my 543 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: corner when I was watching that you were into Chiefs game. 544 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: It was like the game, the game that you've been 545 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: working hard to make the Ravens happen. I feel like 546 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: you've been pushing Lamar Jackson very hard, but it's happening, 547 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: and I just throw I'm gonna I don't want to 548 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: throw cold water on Lamar Jackson at all, but I 549 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: just want to say that in his four starts, he's 550 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: already been hurting. Two of these starts, he's running the 551 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: ball security at like a historically high rate, and he's 552 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: already showing signs that maybe his body doesn't have the 553 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: durability to take on these massive speed bodies of the NFL. 554 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: That's why you get a veteran backup like Joe Flacco. 555 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: But you have one more game. You got one. That's nice, 556 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: You get one more cupcake here and Mark congratulations on 557 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the wind you're gonna get here, because I'm not going 558 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: to even listen to this. You guys have had some 559 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: of the most outrageous at home locks that we've been 560 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: We've seen all year. I'm I don't care what anyone thinks, um, 561 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: but thank you next week at Chargers and then and 562 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: then the Browns who are frisky on defense, real tests 563 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: are coming after this. Look, the Bucks d has played better. 564 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: They held the Saints under three hundred yards. They've forced 565 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: a ton of turnovers over the last month, their defensive 566 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: lines playing pretty well. Jamis Winston hasn't been perfect, but 567 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: he's made some pretty nice plays. The threat of him 568 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: running has been okay. I'm just more worried about like 569 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks offensive line against that Ravens front. The Ravens 570 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: are playing better defense. They have such a nice team defense. 571 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: They can handle so many different schemes and so many 572 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: different plays because they have a veteran secondary that you 573 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: it's just hard to see the Bucks scoring like more 574 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: than twenty points the way that especially the right side 575 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: of their offensive line is playing and just getting Winston killed. 576 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: It's worth noting this is a road game for the 577 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Bucks and they're terrible on the way, and they give 578 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: up forty points a game on the road and twenty 579 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: points a game at home. That's a problem. That is 580 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: one of the most drastic differences you will ever see. 581 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: They need to play in the shadow of that pirate ship. 582 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: They are they are. They need to blind the other team. 583 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: They are a different team though, since they change defensive coordinators, 584 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: they're okay. They've been okay, well, since they got their 585 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: best two players back then that's probably big. Hey, let's 586 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: talk a stinker just for you, Wes. You drew the 587 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: short straw here. I signed these games just kinda in 588 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: order of the way you guys sit. It's not scientific, 589 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: and the way it worked out is you will be 590 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: entering us into the conversation on the five and eight 591 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: lines against the four and nine bills. I mean, I 592 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you, I appreciate them free gamble, but you don't 593 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: have to feel bad about it. Um. I think the 594 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: only thing worth watching in this game is Josh Allen, 595 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: who's doing things with his legs that Michael Vick and 596 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham never even did the highest three game total 597 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: back to back to back rushing yards for a quarterback. 598 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: That's phenomenal. And I know Mark has some strong feelings 599 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: on this after watching Josh Allen too. Oh yeah, I 600 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: feel like I'm every day after school from like fourth 601 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: through seventh grade. This one kid up the street, Rob 602 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy would call me and he's like, you're getting up 603 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: here to play football at the field of the streets, 604 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: Like I have a doctor. So it was every day. 605 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: He was awesome, but he was like I it was 606 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: like sometimes I was like I just want to lie 607 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: in my couch and watched like a rerun of Charlie's Angels. 608 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: But he was like, no, you're getting up here. But 609 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: when you go up there would always be like, huh's angels, 610 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: this is like a fifth grade But he reminds me, 611 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is, no, I'm forty five. There was always 612 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: this one memo in these games that like there would 613 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: be a bunch of three ft eight kids that waited 614 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: like eighties six pounds, and then they'd invite someone's older brother, 615 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: and he just run through them as like a six 616 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: foot three guy who was like the only kid that 617 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: had been lifting weights in eighth grade, And like, why 618 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: is he on the field with us and you're usually 619 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: playing on black right? Why am I here? That's what 620 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen reminds me when he's running through these guys. 621 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I want to know what he does with his legs 622 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: that does other people can't like just want to hear it. Describe. Okay, 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: can he throw the football? Can you throw the ball down? 624 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: You can throw it with velocity? Can you throw it accurately? 625 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: That's a whole He is far from like Lamar Jackson, 626 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: but even further behind. I would say he's far from 627 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: being ready to be kind of an NFL passer. I 628 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever going to quite be that. 629 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: But can you come up with an offense that can 630 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: work with him? I mean, time will tell. He's he's 631 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: been fun to watch. I think all these rookie quarterbacks 632 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: on bad teams. You give him a little bit of 633 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: a pass. His metrics as a passer are dreadful, but 634 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: that not it's not necessarily sarily all on it. They 635 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: come back to US Lions. Bruce Ellington's out this week, 636 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: which is actually a big loss for them, which is amazing. 637 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: Their second and third receivers are Aaron Jones, but not 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: the guy in the Packers and Brandon Powell. Aaron Jones. 639 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: It's Aaron Jones. It's Aaron Jones. And uh, and then 640 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: Zack Center it's a j Jones. I don't know. Did 641 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: you see Zach take over an entire drive last week? 642 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Andy Jones? Andy Jones? Did you see Zack Center take 643 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: over the game? Yes? Last week? Zener Zentner is getting something. 644 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, someone would have told you about four years 645 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: ago that Zenner had some wheels marks still that marks 646 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: still bad that we Uh, who is the type did 647 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: you like David cob to Toby Gerhardt? Guy? I didn't 648 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: seems to be Gerhard on the Jacks, wasn't making the 649 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: leap ultra failure. I feel like I'm surprised you're not 650 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: bigger on Christian McCaffrey based on the kind of just 651 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: bore he bores me. Uh, But Zach, you're just saying 652 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: he pops up once every nineteen or twenty months. And 653 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: I'll mention, if you're new to the podcast, I believe 654 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: he was the preseason rushing champion in two thousand fifteen. 655 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: And Mark, he told a couple of CE poems about him. 656 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely they were dead on. They were prophecies, not c poems. 657 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: The green Bay Packers five seven and one, we know 658 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: what they gotta do here. They're gonna have to win 659 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: out and get some help to make the playoffs. Uh. 660 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: And here is their biggest test because if they if 661 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: they could get by Greg the Bears, uh on the road, 662 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be It's gonna be whether Mark, you and 663 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: other people that are sick of the Packers that don't 664 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: think they should be talked about so much, there's gonna 665 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: be a ton of talk about this Green Bay team 666 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: as being the team to watch to to steal that 667 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: playoff spot. If they can get by the Bears. But 668 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: can they get by the Bears. And the Bears just 669 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: too good, especially in their building. I think they are. 670 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a game that the Bears. I 671 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: think you have to be focused on getting Mitchell Trabisca 672 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: and back on back on track. He hasn't played a 673 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: good game in about five weeks. You know, he had 674 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: that game against Minnesota, then he was out for two 675 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: weeks injured. Last week was maybe probably I would say, 676 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: his worst game of the season in tough conditions. The 677 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: matchup is fine, though, I mean, we didn't even mentioned 678 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: when Mike Daniels went on injured. Reserve Kenny Clark missed practice. 679 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is not a great Packers defense. There's 680 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: not a lot of reason for me to think that 681 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: the Packers are suddenly going to play their best game 682 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: of the season. I think that's what it would take 683 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: to beat the Bears. Packers have six starters on I 684 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: R from their defense, right, they just don't have much left. 685 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: I could totally see Rogers being smothered in this game. 686 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: His receivers unable to get separation, Khalil Mack and the 687 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: pass harsh of the Bears coming down on him, and 688 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: he's not throwing interceptions, because he doesn't throw interceptions. He 689 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: just set the record in fact for not throwing interceptions, 690 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: but a lot of firing ball into the dirt or 691 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: sailing at ten yards out of bounds, and and scrambling 692 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: for his life and and muttering to himself as he 693 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: walks off the field. This to me, does not set 694 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: up well for Rogers at all, as much as I'd 695 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: love for him to stay in the mix. What a 696 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: matchup that you guys, Dan and Mark we did. We 697 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: taped this thing for game Pass if you're international, No, 698 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: it's just regular game Pass, so everyone can go to 699 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: any go check out our playoff Christmas projection on game Pass. 700 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: And you guys put the Packers into the playoffs. So 701 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: you guys, I actually put the Giants. Mark put the 702 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: Giants in. Put put the Packers down. I did, I did, 703 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: But I did that in about four seconds and never thought. 704 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: The one thing I love about they gotta win this game. 705 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: You're right, so I do believe in the pack changed 706 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: my mind. When we were in London in week one. 707 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: This was the game that you know, we were stunned 708 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: as we were leaving Sky Sports to find out that 709 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: the Bears and Khalil Mac were dominating the game, and 710 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: by the time we went to bed at our hotel, 711 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: like they had, Green Bay authored one of the great comebacks, 712 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: and that game ended with Mitch Drabinsky unable to find 713 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: a way to seal the deal for the Bears. I 714 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: think Mitch Drabinsky has to do something in this game too. 715 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: It can't just be a walk over, not at all. 716 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: But the Packers offense last week looked as good as 717 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: it has in a in a long while. It's the 718 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: first time they scored over that's the highest points they 719 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: had all year thirty four. It's kind of a no 720 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: lose situation right west. It's either the Packers uh win 721 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: and there in the hunt, or the team of at 722 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: l is surging and riding high entering the last two 723 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. That's exactly how I view the Bears. 724 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: They do need to get big game out of Drabinsky. 725 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: But one positive sign from last week is they finally 726 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: got their running game going, and I've been waiting for 727 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: that to happen. Not just like wheel routes to Tarik 728 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: Cohen or a couple of screen passes here and there, 729 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: or a draw play to him, but an actual Jordan 730 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: Howard led chain moving attack and they finally did that 731 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: last week. I think they'll be able to this week. 732 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: And uh, and this is a week where and Rogers 733 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: get picked off because he's going against the Bears. They 734 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: have twenty five interceptions, only has one interception this year 735 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: for a guy who's over talked about as a down year. 736 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: He's he has his highest yards, but Damn pointed out 737 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: a good reason why he only has one interception what 738 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: he likes to throw the ball in the dirt or 739 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: out of bear historical, but he's also has higher yards. 740 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: He also has a higher yards per attempt than he 741 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: has since his MVP season, so it's not like he's 742 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: been in a lower completion and in many years. As say, 743 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: as insane as it sounds, there is a faction of 744 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: Packers fans that are extremely frustrated with Rogers and those 745 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: those reasons. Quitting on plays, uh and deciding to get 746 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: out of a play and get rid of the ball 747 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons that people have frustration. Can't 748 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: quit on too many plays in this game because he's 749 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to put up points and I don't think 750 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, and that's why I'm locking up 751 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: the team of ato as after a week after we 752 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: all picked against them. So sorry, Bears. All right, the 753 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: Raiders there three and ten? Uh? Where are the Raiders? 754 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: That were they even playing? This is a crazy story, 755 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders, uh having a The city of Oakland is 756 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: suing the team? Is that correct? Yes? Well yes essentially 757 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: uh And and now the Raiders may look to to 758 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: exit their lease with at Oakland Al Alameda Stadium and 759 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: Vegas isn't ready yet, I guess. And it's just a 760 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: ton of drama around this team. Derek Carr said that, like, 761 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy that we don't know where we're gonna be 762 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: playing next year. So it's just another another s sandwich 763 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: for this franchise and what's been a terrible season. Frankly, 764 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: it's insane. Roger Goodell was asked about it at the 765 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: at an owner's meeting on Wednesday, and he said, yeah, 766 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna need to know by by January 767 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: or February where they're playing next year, you know, for 768 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: scheduling purposes. It's like, yeah, that that seems like it's 769 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: nice to find out where this team's playing. I mean 770 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: they'll gotta figure it out. But it's just it is 771 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: mid December. It's not gonna don't think it'll. They'll probably 772 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: find another if they can't play in Oakland. What a 773 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: depressing way for a great franchise to end in Oakland. 774 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: They'll maybe they'll play in the forty niner stadium that's 775 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: been It's always a bad idea to say we're moving, 776 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, X amount of years from now. If you're 777 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna move, do it quick, because how is it gonna end? Well? Um, Greg, 778 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: They're playing the Bengals this week in Cincinnati. It's the 779 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: final home game for the Bengals this season. Is it 780 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis once and for all? Is this Marvin Lewis's 781 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: final game? I think it is as head coach in Cincinnati. 782 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it is, and maybe not as last with 783 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: the organization. I wouldn't put it past Paul Brown, like 784 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: moving him upstairs. This is not a criticism of you 785 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: in particularly how many how many times do you think 786 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: on this podcast you've said this is Marvin Lewis three 787 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: fust two or two or three years. They're lasting yards, points, 788 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: yards and points per drive allowed too. With this defensive 789 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: roster it doesn't make sense. I know they've had some injuries, 790 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: but when I looked at their defense last week, which 791 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: I could probably played their best game of the year 792 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: last week, It's like, well, if that was the best giveing, 793 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: there were sections, there were moments over and over one 794 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: game pass. I'm saying, now there their defense, they gave up. 795 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: They held the Chargers the fewer yards and the Charges 796 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: had all season, and they looked respectable better games early 797 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: in the season defensively. Cruce arians was like, that's just 798 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: too easy when the Bengals are getting run over by 799 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: the Charge. I do have a I do have a 800 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: scouting report though on Jeff Driscoll after last week's game, 801 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: he's I I do not see a whole lot of 802 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 1: difference between him and Jeff Drisco. You should we should 803 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: have to pay for that information. The Dallas Cowboys eight 804 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: and five. Wow, it went from three and five to 805 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: eight and five in five weeks. That's pretty good. UH. 806 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: And now they traveled to Lucas Oil Stadium to face 807 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: the Colts West. UH. One week ago today, we did 808 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: this podcast and you were you were really hurt about 809 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: the performance of the UH of the Cults and that 810 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: six nothing shutout loss to the Jaguars. You essentially deplaned 811 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: the Colts team bandwagon. That flies, I suppose. But after 812 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: they go to Houston and get you're all the way 813 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: back because I've heard you all week and you're back 814 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: in on the Colts are chie. I wouldn't say that back, baby. 815 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: This matchup scares me in the same way the Jaguars 816 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: matchup scared me, because there's no doubt the Cowboys defensive 817 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: front can get pressure on Andrew Luck, especially with uh 818 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: One of the guards for the Colts, Mark Lewinski, isn't 819 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: practicing this week, it might not play. They hadn't protected 820 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: Luck the last few weeks as well as they did 821 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: at mid season when they were in the middle of 822 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: that sack streak. The question I have is the Cowboys 823 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: secondary is not as talented as the Jaguars, and the 824 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars put the clamps on these Colts wide receivers and 825 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: tight ends. With the exception of t Y Hilton, I 826 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: just don't think their receivers and tight ends are talented 827 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: beyond him that they find a way to get him 828 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: open anyways, at least against most teams. That's true, I 829 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: mean against this is a tough matchup, but Luck has 830 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: been so good. I think when the defense calls the 831 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: right play, like I don't know, Mahomes, you would have 832 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: to put right there. But there have been some plays, 833 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: and I can think of a few from last week's 834 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: game where the Texans in Romeo Cordell kind of dialed 835 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: up the perfect blitz or the perfect play or had 836 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: the screen broken up, and Luck just has uh an 837 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: innate patients to kind of wait it out to kind 838 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: of buy that extra time or kind of wait for 839 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks to get out of the throwing window and 840 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: still make a play and beat the perfect defense. It's 841 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: so impressed. I thought he made last week against the 842 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: Texans some of the prettiest throws he's made all year. 843 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: Two guys twenty yards down field on the run at 844 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: the sideline. I just he I think they have an 845 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: absolute shot to win this game. Oh no, I'm not 846 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: saying they don't have a shot. I think they're the favorite. 847 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: They're at home, and and I do think if I 848 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: had to gun to my head, I would put the 849 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: Colts over the Cowboys in this game. I just think 850 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys defense is for real. They are I'd 851 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: like to see a complete game out of Dak Prescott. 852 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: He does some really positive things each week and does 853 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: some really negative things each week. You know how you 854 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: always say, like when there's a lot of plays in 855 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: a game that like, oh, they're gonna be tired the 856 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: next week the defense to do offenses get tired or 857 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: is it just defenses? One to The Cowboys played nine 858 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: had nine snaps last week. That's like two games. That's 859 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: more than double what the Dolphins had for instance, andce No, 860 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot of snaps and they have to They 861 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: are not the same line that they used to be. 862 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: Zeke is working harder, Dac is getting pressured more. They 863 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: basically have two offensive line spots that are liabilities and 864 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: that that hasn't in the case in previous years. I 865 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: like this Colts defense. This is ever Fluss revenge Matt 866 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: ever Flus for years under Rod mel Ramarinelli, little pupil 867 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: teaches the mentors defenses. I think they have improved throughout 868 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: the year, and I think a lot of people are 869 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: sleeping on it, That's what I'm saying. I mean, they're 870 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: flying around. Kenny Moore Autrey sheared like uh Alec Anthony 871 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: Walker and I and I do apologize for all the 872 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard uh you know fans out there. I probably 873 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: short was shortsighted not including him in the defensive Rookie 874 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: the Year, So sorry, West's and all those cults not 875 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: only leading here right tackle right, but has more tackles 876 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: per game than any rookies this century, including Patrick Willis 877 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: and Luke Kickli. Do you think it would be him 878 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: and not Vanderess should be being talked up as d 879 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: p O y on the rookie class if he was 880 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: not a member of the Cowboys. For the Cowboys they 881 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: have a statue of him. All that he would are 882 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: they bypassed Rookie the Year was a nice little matt 883 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 1: up then vander Ess versus Leonard here given to Derwin James. 884 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: But I do admit, uh, Leonard, since he's played the 885 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: whole season, should be racial. He also has seven sacks 886 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: for an off ball linebacker and four force funnels. I 887 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: don't know what more you could ask this guy to do? 888 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: What else can you ask? Guys from Cavo transition into 889 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: an ad rate that was well done. Control Center by 890 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: Cavo is the one remote that does it all. 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Let's move to Jacksonville where the Jaguars 909 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: continue there deeply disappointing two thousand eighteen season with an 910 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: embarrassing thirty to nine loss at in Nashville on Thursday 911 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: Night Football. So they get half a bye week, uh 912 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: to prepare for Redskins team in a total free fall. 913 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: Greg um Mark Sanchez gets benched last week. I don't 914 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: even know if anybody's covering this team anymore. So I 915 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know if Josh Johnson is officially the fifteen star. Okay, 916 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: he is, but it's probably not gonna matter, right because 917 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: if the Redskins. If you have to make a list 918 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: of the most helpless teams in the NFL right now, 919 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: the Redskins have to be the other the top of 920 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: the list. Yeah. I mean, if you're apologizing the West, 921 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: forgive him that Lions Bills game, I got this one 922 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: and Cardinals Falcons. I mean, this is this is a 923 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: December football game if I've ever seen one one where 924 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: you you almost expect the Jaguars, who are awful to 925 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: with Cody Kessler, to win going away or else he'd 926 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: be disappointed. That's how bad the Redskinds are right now. 927 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: The Redskins are playing preseason football. They dropping passes, they're 928 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: committing penalties. Um Adrian Peterson's a non factor because they 929 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: can't give him a running start in the defense is 930 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: just gluing onto him on every place to see that 931 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: crazy stat. Not this week but the week before he 932 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: had the ninety yard touchdown. Of course, uh, he finished 933 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: with ninety eight yards. He didn't get a hundred yards rushing, 934 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: and he had a ninety yard rush in the game. 935 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: It reminds me of what happened behind that Cardinals offensive 936 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: line last year on their third string quarterback. There's just 937 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: nowhere for him to run. I mean, if I ran 938 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: ninety yards and scored, I might be like, I'm good 939 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: like you guys. You guys, Now, how about the rest 940 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: of this offense? Nattie McCarthy from down the block, think 941 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: about that? Well, he wouldn't like that, by the way, 942 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: not just making not just making excuses for Adrian Peterson. 943 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: He had Jack Rabbit Jenkins one on one in the 944 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: whole last week and couldn't make him move. Are you 945 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: a little worried that Frank Gore is ultimately having a 946 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: better season, having a good season. He's not having a 947 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: better season than Peterson. I mean he the yards were carrying, 948 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: like the yards for play. I mean, I like the 949 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: factor and how they're being used, and one as a 950 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: workhorse and the other one is like a role player, 951 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: the same Gores get it done. Is he allergic to 952 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: the zone. Does anybody else take this guy's off on? 953 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: Guess does anybody else um watching that game last Thursday 954 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: night and seeing the um the luxury box cutaways to 955 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, does anybody else have a hunch that this 956 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: guy could end up being the head coach? And yes, 957 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that was always potentially the scapegoat type plan, 958 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get someone in here. Well, I think 959 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: he always wanted to be a coach again and no 960 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: one would take him. So you do it this way. 961 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: You get in in the in the upper echelons of 962 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: the organization. Then you say, listen, guys, we've come to 963 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: the conclusion that I need to be the coach here, 964 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: especially when is like, you know, you know, it's been 965 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: really tough for Kaughlin not coaching this team. It's really 966 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: driving him up the wall, but you know he likes 967 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: being There was something about and I don't know the 968 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: day to day like how other men in his possession 969 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: in the league operate during a game, but there's something 970 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: about his little notebook that he was like scribbling after 971 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: every play notes and I was like, oh, this dude 972 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: is all the way in and he looks like a 973 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: guy that's ready to get on the sideline. And and 974 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: yes he's old. I think he's seventy two, but like 975 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: our president, I think is seventy one seven without any issues. Right, 976 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a bad excuse, but but just the fact 977 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: that seventy two isn't what it used to be and 978 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: this guy keeps himself in shape. I don't I don't 979 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: think he's your typical seventy two year old. It's hard 980 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: to get that coaching out of your system. He's one 981 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: of those guys who's naturally has been doing it for 982 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: what forty years or fifty years. He's also not he's 983 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: he's it doesn't look young for his age the same 984 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: way that Pete Harroll does, but he's still young in 985 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: terms of his energy. I could see him doing it 986 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: for the three years. Let's move on the Miami Dolphins. Oh, 987 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: what excitement around the Dolphins right now, because despite being 988 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: really a middling team, ultimately not a ton of talent 989 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: on this roster. And and some people like Adam Gaze, 990 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: but some people are like, hey, this is not quite 991 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: working out on the sidelines and their recent history and 992 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: by recent history, I mean everything post Dan Marino's career, 993 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 1: and really everything posted. Um No, I'm just joking. In fact, 994 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: I want to give the Dolphins that the seven and 995 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 1: six Miami Dolphins are doing a nice job this season. 996 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: The fact that they are seven and six with brock 997 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: Oswilders starting a handful of games, Uh, I just gotta say, 998 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: you gotta give them a little bit of credit and 999 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: hanger on and things change in the NFL so quickly. 1000 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they should not have won the game against 1001 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think we all agree on that. And 1002 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, the game against the Bills, Josh Allen left 1003 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: a wide open guy in the in the end zone 1004 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: at the end of that game. So they probably should 1005 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: have lost the last two games, but they didn't, Mark Sessler, 1006 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm gonna say, it's your turn to 1007 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: talk about this game, Dolphins at vikings of I think 1008 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: you've done a nice job. I I have been down 1009 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins for half a decade, but last game 1010 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: at least they broke out of hyper boring mode for me. 1011 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna kill Ryan Tannehill when he made 1012 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 1: some of the better throws he's made all season last week, 1013 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: and I loved seeing against the Patriots. Brandon Bolden burst 1014 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: up the middle and blow for a touchdown against his 1015 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: former employer and then do it again. And I the 1016 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: only thing that annoys me about the Dolphins is the 1017 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: fact that I have to hear Ryan Tannehill screaming Omaha, 1018 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: Barry put that away like that needed to go with 1019 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. That really annoys me that anyone else is 1020 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: still doing that. But beyond that there, how I want 1021 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: to see how they respond to what was the greatest, 1022 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: one of the great moments, not just of this entire season, 1023 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 1: but one of the great sports moments in ages and ages, 1024 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: And how the Vikings respond to yet another drub been 1025 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: by a real playoff team going up to Seattle and 1026 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: get whipped. Is there anything left in this Vikings team? 1027 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: Probably at home there is, But I see, this is 1028 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: it we've been talking about all week fifty game, and 1029 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: I have no problem with the Dolphins winning this and 1030 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: taking the Vikings and putting them out of their misery 1031 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: Bye bye. The Desert people do not think this is 1032 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: a close game. The Desert people feel like the Vikings 1033 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 1: have this one in hand hand, which surprised me because 1034 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe it goes back to what 1035 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: you've been saying West because you've been defending Kirk Cousins. 1036 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: Maybe in this environment at home, an early game, not 1037 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, in this situation, maybe he lights 1038 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 1: up the Dolphins. Maybe these are the games that people 1039 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: aren't seeing with Kirk Cousins. Well, it's just a guess, 1040 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm guessing the Desert people like the Vikings 1041 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: because they're a much better team than the Dolphins are. 1042 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: Are they that much better? I think when's the last 1043 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: time the Dolphins want to get like a fluke or 1044 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: with a bunch of flukes, a bunch of their two 1045 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: mediocre team. Here's the thing. They've been able to repeat 1046 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: those flukes. And one of our podcast listeners I was 1047 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: trying to feel like, how is this team? Seven six? 1048 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: And someone responded with a couple of answers, and I 1049 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: think if you add to his answer, you've got an answer. 1050 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: They they lead the league in explosive passing touchdowns over 1051 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: twenty yards, which doesn't make any sense because they're not 1052 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: really even close to the lead in just normal plays 1053 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: over twenty yards, But they have a ton of explosive 1054 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns their second in the league, and interceptions four more 1055 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: than the number three they're only behind Chicago. Special teams 1056 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: has been great and for some reason, Adam Gates is 1057 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: like a wizard in close games and that shouldn't be 1058 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: able to repeat. But he's done it for three seasons now. 1059 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: He's twenty and six in one score games. So I 1060 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: don't know they they've somehow added all that up in 1061 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: their media, and the Vikings have not beaten a team 1062 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: with a winning record. I mean, I just I think 1063 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings help. They're bad, is my answer. I agree 1064 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: with that they're they fully deserved, you know, I know, 1065 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: but how about this, Can we say, Minnesota, go go 1066 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: beat a team worth worth something? It's like, week after 1067 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: are you going to be really impressed if they beat 1068 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: the Dolph Not at all. But I also would be 1069 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more impressed if they did any thing 1070 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: against the Bears, the Patriots, the Seahawks, the Saints, the Rams, 1071 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 1: or even the Bills. Part the part of the reasons 1072 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are so uh big underdogs is they've won 1073 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: one game on the road, and that was Week two 1074 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: against the Jets, and they've been blown out on the 1075 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: road quite a bit. So it is tough. But Kirk 1076 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: Cousins is bad games have been, are are bad? Are 1077 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: so bad? Like? That's the difference I think between him 1078 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: and a top eight or nine quarterback is sometimes early 1079 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: in the game you can tell it's not going to 1080 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 1: be his type of week. I am curious what they're 1081 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: gonna do in terms of changing the offense, because it's 1082 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: a good matchup that's not a good Dolphins tame. Watch out. 1083 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: If the Dolphins do and the Vikings have issues and 1084 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,439 Speaker 1: they just fired the offensive coordinator and they they're having 1085 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: a disappointing season, the wheels could fall off. Hypothetically. I 1086 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: don't think they will, but if they did and the 1087 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: Dolphins got to eight and six their home Jacksonville at 1088 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo to close the season, they could be playing in January, 1089 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: which would be not a lot of fun. But again, 1090 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: there are some wheels falling off signs here between the 1091 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: coordinator firing with three weeks left, Mike Zimmer's daughter went nuts, 1092 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 1: uh you know how on Twitter? Oh, that is definitely 1093 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: a sign, had some comments on Instagram. How is that 1094 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: the team falling apart? She went after she went after 1095 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: the fans for being near the audic and by the way, 1096 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: it was all fair. What I'm saying is Actually that 1097 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: is a telltale sign of a team that's falling apart, 1098 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: is that when the daughter gets on social media and 1099 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: is defending the coach. Usually it's like a it's a 1100 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: kiss of death. It's like getting a vote of confidence. 1101 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: You're you're out the door soon come with You have 1102 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: no idea what that went players on the roster, But uh, 1103 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: let's move on. The Tennessee Titoons after humbling defeats at 1104 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: the hands of the Colts and Texans both on the road. Uh, 1105 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: they squeezed by the Jets at home and then embarrassed 1106 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and um, and we didn't talk about that. 1107 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: That game is a group because was the Thursday night game. 1108 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: But I'll hand out a lollipop in that game, uh 1109 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: to all your Tytoons fans, because you didn't just take 1110 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: care of business. Let's charm, um. You didn't just take 1111 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: care of business. You you kind of you. You basically 1112 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: castrated a team in your own division and and made 1113 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,760 Speaker 1: them feel less about themselves, perhaps forever. So I respect 1114 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: them that you were able to do that to the Jaguars. 1115 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: So there you go, coming back from castration. Not in 1116 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: some ways, no, there isn't uh so here they are 1117 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: seven and six, and now they travel to the Metal 1118 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 1: Lands to face one of the hottest teams in the NFL. 1119 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just can't You can't say it's not true 1120 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: West because uh, they've won four or five and not 1121 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot of teams can claim that. Right now, your thoughts, 1122 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: oh you want meet my thoughts. And the Giants they're 1123 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: obviously a much better team now than they were earlier 1124 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: in this season. I think you have to put it 1125 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: in the context of your their opponents, and this week 1126 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: they play a top for opponent. I'll be impressed if 1127 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: they win this game. Um, the Titans have They have 1128 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: sent two more players to I R. John who Smith 1129 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,800 Speaker 1: and Jack Conklin their tight end and right tackle. I 1130 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a lot of Anthony fer Sir, 1131 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: who is like Cameron Brad an undrafted tight end out 1132 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: of Harvard. Harvard, and I think you're gonna see him 1133 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: featured a little bits has got it. I think he's 1134 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: given a fantasy nugget out right now. I'm not allowed. 1135 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: Evan Silver told me I'm not allowed to dispense fantasy 1136 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: every single target because I'm so far removed from the business. 1137 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't even like you are more imbued in the 1138 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: business of a different, unique perspective. Like when August rolls 1139 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: around and we do our fantasy, Um, what do we 1140 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: call extrava? Yeah, I'll offer my you know, go get 1141 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: George Kittle advice. Does that make Evan uncomfortable when you 1142 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: do that once a year? I think I think he's 1143 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: just joking with me a little bit. But I think so. 1144 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: But I agree that I think the big fish has 1145 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: got a big problem. No, I'm not qualified. I don't 1146 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: think in fantasy to Mariot has thrown sixteen passes to 1147 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Firkser this year. I guess how many catches he 1148 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: has he's got censored perfect. Um, you know I was 1149 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: about to I was all set by the way to 1150 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: lock up the man here just because it was fun. 1151 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: This is definitely your one. This is probably the game 1152 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: you're watching at ten am. The problem though, and I 1153 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: will be watching closely because if for no other reason 1154 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: then to drive West crazy. I want the Giants to 1155 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: keep winning, but I won't drive me crazy. But I 1156 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: have to say that it doesn't sound like Odell Beckham 1157 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: is gonna play this quad injury. Uh, he got it. 1158 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: Real reevaluated on Thursday. Because it's not it's not healing 1159 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: the way he expected to. He said, quote s ain't right. Um, 1160 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: so I would be surprised if if, if he plays, 1161 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: and if he does make up make it on the field, 1162 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 1: is he gonna be the same guy? So that hurts. 1163 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: I know they were able to dominate the Redskins last 1164 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: week without him, but that was a bad Redskins team. 1165 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: In free fall, Corey Coleman made a couple of plays 1166 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: he did, and and you know you got all the 1167 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: Shepherds making plays and see Quon Barkley is playing out 1168 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: of his mind. But I can't lock the Giants up. 1169 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think they'll win. I have to say, 1170 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win. Stone, I think you should 1171 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: lock it. I think I would maybe take the Giants too. 1172 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: To me that they're too even teams, I mean, neither 1173 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: even without Odell. You should both lock it must really 1174 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: not like the Tytoons then, I just think they're both 1175 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: average teams. I mean, do you trust the Titans have 1176 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: two inspired performances in a row. No, I don't. That's 1177 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: why I think that the Tytoons. But I think it's 1178 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of a coin flip game, so those are not 1179 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: the game either. One really has a reliable passing game. 1180 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: The Titans defense is better, but it's not that much 1181 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: better than the Giants. It's not great. You're right the 1182 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 1: Giants second. The Giants secondary a good passing game take 1183 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: picks apart. You know the Titans are not that team. 1184 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,919 Speaker 1: So you know, remember Dan, when Romo talked about Sam 1185 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Donald's spatial awareness teams special. I think that's what Marcus 1186 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Mariotte is missing. He he waits until the pressure is 1187 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: in his face before he tries to avoid it. It 1188 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: doesn't feel it things. Yeah, I think things closed quicklier 1189 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: than quicker than he expects. All right, so that'll be 1190 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: a fun game to keep an eye on on Sunday. 1191 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Seattle Seahawks, who have put 1192 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: it all together. Whoa good thing. I did my mia 1193 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: culpa about five weeks ago because I wrote off the 1194 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Seattle after their own to start. We did a show 1195 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: where I was like, actually, no, I think I'm out 1196 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: on that fotball fans. Yeah yeah, And since then they've 1197 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: gotten even better. They've now went to the next level 1198 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: where they are legitimate NFC player even when we had 1199 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: that discussion last month. We were all kind of in 1200 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: the same page. I thought that, yes, this is gonna 1201 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: be a frisky team. Maybe not a playoff team, but 1202 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna be fighting all the way to the end 1203 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: of the season. Now they're eight in five and now 1204 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: they're going to San Francisco, UH to face one of 1205 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the worst teams in football. Greg Rosenthal, Wow, this is 1206 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: setting up well for the Seahawks. It is. I mean, 1207 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be allowed to play then they just they 1208 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: just played two weeks ago. This is ridiculous. I hate that. 1209 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: I hate the two of the two in three weeks. 1210 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I guess it's just impossible to avoid. There's no reason 1211 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: why hated so much. Well, it seems very possible to 1212 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: avoid if they really want, Because I think football is 1213 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: it's such a game plan sport and you should spread 1214 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: it out. Just playing each other to it just feels unfairsome. 1215 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe it makes it harder for the Seahawks 1216 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: to go dominate this game. They're also on the road. 1217 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: They've been really good at home late. Who's it unfair 1218 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: to though, I just want to dig into this. I 1219 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: think it's unfair to the better team think you answered it, well, 1220 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: it's unfair because it's unfair to the coaches. Yeah, like 1221 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: Saints Pantings had the same situation, and I feel like 1222 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the Saint It puts the Saints in a worst position 1223 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the better team, I think, because it's just it evens 1224 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the scale. It's somehow even it does. All right, I'll 1225 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: give there's no reason, thanks buddy. They if they don't 1226 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: have Doug Baldwin, though, they are not the same asking attack, 1227 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: and you wonder if he's gonna He looked like himself 1228 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: for about two weeks this season and then he was 1229 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: gone again. I mean they had seventy yards passing Russell 1230 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Wilson did last week, there was this amazing nugget on 1231 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the Niners that they have forced five takeaways all season, 1232 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: and with three games to play, they can become the 1233 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: only team since at least ninety to not force double 1234 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: digit takeaways in a season that includes teams like the 1235 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Decatur Staley's. I mean, you know, the the Duluth Triangles 1236 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: or something back then there. I mean there were the Triangle, 1237 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: the Dayton Triangles. I mean those guys the Dayton Triangles 1238 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: pulled off at least ten to give it takeaways A 1239 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: little bit of perspective. Staley is like more of like 1240 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: a bend but don't break defense. Stanley's were the Chicago 1241 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 1: Bears for two years before they became the Chicago Bears. 1242 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: It's a little perspective to the marks nugget there. So 1243 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: they have five takeaways. There are seven teams in the 1244 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: league this year that have had at least five takeaways 1245 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: in a single game. Right, I mean Xavian Howard has 1246 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: seven takeaways. Give me a break. I love that they play. 1247 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: They're just so committed to their style though they play 1248 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: six offensive lineman so much. This is a game where 1249 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: they don't have to throw the ball much to win. 1250 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: You would think, you would think, but Kyle Shanahan, you 1251 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: never know. I'd like to see them like, maybe don't 1252 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: throw it once. I want to. I want to say 1253 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that kind of like how sometimes you decide to try 1254 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: to not to speak for an entire segment when you 1255 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: you usually doesn't work out, but you usually have that 1256 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: plan every few shows or so not to say anything. Well, 1257 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: there are a few games that that would make sense 1258 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: this week. It's like the year that the Panthers couldn't 1259 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: find a quarterback and they decided just to play D'Angelo 1260 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Williams there for a while. It's a little under the 1261 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: radar that that Pete Carroll Seahawks close in a very 1262 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: similar fashion when they're at their best, like the Patriots, 1263 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: that they've been so much better Thanksgiving on throughout the 1264 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll era. Like as much credit as we're giving them, 1265 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it's like they might be even better than we think 1266 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: if the defense is it keeps improving, because it really 1267 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been that defense now, that's what I'm saying. I'm 1268 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: saying that if they keep getting better, like you have 1269 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: to think about them as a team that could ruin 1270 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: some team seasons in them. Yeah, and not ruin the 1271 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: chief season. But if when they take care of business 1272 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: this week, and they had they welcomed the Chiefs into 1273 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: their building in Week sixteen riding a five game winning stream. 1274 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: That is a tough game and another big test for 1275 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. But we'll get there. Let's move on the 1276 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who, uh, last time we heard from them, 1277 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Scott Zolak had become comatose. Uh due to the Miami 1278 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Miracle thirty three loss to the Dolphins. Uh. They now 1279 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: travel to Pittsburgh. This is Mark Sessler as close as 1280 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: you can get to a must win game for the Steelers. 1281 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Yes it is. There's a lot to talk about, but 1282 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to just leave you with one specific prediction 1283 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: that I guarantee. I all, okay. Stephen Gustkowski misses a 1284 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: kick that goes down and Patriots infamy in this game. 1285 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an extra pointer of feed gilt Field 1286 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: field goal I cannot quite decipher yet, but it's gonna 1287 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: go down and ultra infamy. He had a miss kick 1288 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: last week. He's not on top of his game right now. 1289 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: He's feeling the jitters to last week. He's going to 1290 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: have a killer gaff in this game that's going to 1291 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: leave New England hobbled. WHOA What do your spidy senses 1292 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: say about Chris Boswell, who kept his job this week? 1293 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, well, because I think that's the obvious one 1294 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: that you would think that about. But I think it's 1295 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna go the other way. Yep. I mean it's not 1296 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Gonnas gonna go down and infamy as much as his 1297 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 1: multiple miskicks and Super bowls. So I'll live with that 1298 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. You haven't seen that's gonna happen 1299 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, this this is going to be one 1300 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: of those moments of the populous Filaska. By the way, 1301 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: Kai for bath Um, who came in flew in for 1302 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: a workout with Pittsburgh. It went so well that the 1303 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Steelers told him, hey, hold tight, don't leave town, but 1304 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: we're not signing. You're not signing you. Basically, honestly, they're saying, 1305 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: if Chris Boswell, this is one kick at all, probably 1306 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: against the page they paying for, like his hotel for 1307 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 1: the next I don't mean, I don't know if it's 1308 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: literally like stay in the hotel room that we put 1309 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: you up in, but just realize we loved your workout 1310 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: because you're a really solid kicker. It's like kid be 1311 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: a little worried if iwell that he like walks out 1312 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: of the parking lot and he's like, why am I tying? 1313 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I'd love to be a kicker out of work that 1314 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: just gets put in a hotel for a week to 1315 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: see if maybe I get a job or not. This 1316 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: is the most pressure West since Adam Vinitaria was told 1317 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: by Parcels grabbed by the shoulder pads as he was 1318 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: jogging out on the field, if you miss this kick, 1319 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: your cut and let's move. As a rookie, don't you 1320 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: think there's something to be said for that, Like, if 1321 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you can't take that pressure from the coach, how are 1322 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: you going to take the pressure of a of a 1323 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: close game. That's why, and we joke about it on 1324 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: this podcast, but I am legitimately fascinated by the kicker positions. 1325 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: I am too, as it is so pressure filled. It's intense, 1326 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's the most pressure filled outside of golf. 1327 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Is an individual sports, so you can't really compare it, 1328 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: but I think in team sports, that's gotta be the 1329 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: most mentally rigorous position. It's one of the reasons why 1330 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: I like the Patriots. You know, in this game is 1331 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: that the special teams for the Steelers are awful. It's 1332 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: not just boss well it's a punting it's the coverage units. 1333 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: It's awful. And the little details in a game like 1334 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: this we've seen again and again. I'm just trusting Josh 1335 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: McDaniels and the Patriots offensive coaching staff to come up 1336 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: with a game plan that exposes Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh is 1337 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: a more talented team. But right now, the Patriots are 1338 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 1: healthier than they've been all season. Tom Brady looks better, 1339 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: I think, coming off maybe his best performance of the 1340 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: season last week in Miami. Other than the mental mistakes 1341 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, I think is is looking looks like the 1342 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 1: old he's by the way, if you just paste out 1343 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: his stats for the Patriots, he's on pace for an 1344 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: eleven twenty yards season with the Pats, like if it 1345 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: was sixteen games, and he's becoming more integrated into what 1346 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: they do. They're they're running, their backfield is healthy, like 1347 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: they're a healthy team. I think they have as good 1348 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: a chance to put up points as they have all 1349 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: season right now. If Tom Brady wasn't so afraid to 1350 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: take a hit right now, I'd say he's playing like 1351 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: he did in previous years. He's certainly threw the ball 1352 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: really well. List like that. I thought that was the 1353 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 1: best he threw the ball all year. But after I 1354 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: watched him or Eli Manning play, I have to go 1355 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: watch A young doesn't want to get hit. No, they're 1356 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: so afraid to get hit. But I think that's part 1357 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: of what makes them good. But I hear what you're 1358 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: saying that maybe it also makes them kind of bad 1359 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: too far the other way. He doesn't take sacks, you know, 1360 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have negative plays. That's always gives up on 1361 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: plays too easily. That that that is possible, and you 1362 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,799 Speaker 1: and you look at the Steelers. That's I don't understand 1363 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers because their lines are so good. The defensive 1364 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 1: line for the Steelers playing great. Their offensive line maybe 1365 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: the best in the league. Why are they losing? James 1366 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: Conner set out practice again on Thursday with that high 1367 01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: ankle sprain. UH. Steelers O C. Randy Feichner UH said 1368 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: that he could play even without practicing, but it's more 1369 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: likely that if he doesn't get on the field at 1370 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: any point in practice, he's gonna miss another game. We'll 1371 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: see what that means. And I will will say one 1372 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: thing on this, gentleman, that, uh, the Steelers despite their 1373 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: slimp and I I was all in on the Panthers 1374 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: figuring it out, and I was so mad at myself 1375 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: for missing that so badly. But then you know what, 1376 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know that Cam Newton's shoulder was banged up. 1377 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let myself off the hook. I feel 1378 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the same way about the Steelers. I feel like they're 1379 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: going to right the ship, and a lot of people 1380 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: are writing them off right now. I feel like, and 1381 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: this is you know what this is, West, this is 1382 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: a winner go home game kind of and you know 1383 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: what else, it is must win. It's a cornered animal game. 1384 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: It's a statement game, and the Steelers are a dangerous 1385 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: animal cornered. The Patriots need the game too, but not 1386 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: nearly as much as the Steelers. And it did not 1387 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,560 Speaker 1: feel right when I locked up the Patriots. Although I 1388 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and I loved what I saw, Mark, 1389 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like rooting for them that week. So it's 1390 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 1: time to get the scales back to even. Let's go silver, 1391 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean gold, black and yellow. Let's go Steelers it. 1392 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come on, I love it. I hated when 1393 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: you picked the Patriots. This is the order restored to 1394 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: the world. I want you already to get stuff and gold. 1395 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: They're not silver? What are? They're black? And gold? Yellow? Black? 1396 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: And I am afraid because it's to everyone's just say. 1397 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking to you know, damn a 1398 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: check and an MVP. Who are Steelers fans? Like? They 1399 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: don't even Steelers fan I don't know, isn't she wait, 1400 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,680 Speaker 1: she's from the region. Her dad's from Pittsburgh too. Yeah, 1401 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong. They were they were 1402 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: acting like, oh, there's no chance, like that, like okay, 1403 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: let's move on past this game and once let's get 1404 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: isn't that Anthony jessel Nick, who I I co host 1405 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: the Jessell Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project with r VP 1406 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Juniors President. Yeah, we gotta get it. You know. I 1407 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: don't know why the words vanity feels slightly He thinks 1408 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: the season is over and that they have no chance. 1409 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, But they all think this for the same reason. 1410 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: You have more faith in the Patriots because they've seen 1411 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: their coaching staff get out coached by the Patriots every 1412 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 1: and I get it. But I also see a pariods 1413 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 1: team who like the it's fair. The minute that you 1414 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: start having faith in their defense, the Dolphins go up 1415 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and down the field on them. They have no pass 1416 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,919 Speaker 1: rush whatsoever unless they call a blitz, and against Pittsburgh 1417 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: that's a that's a huge problem to me, that they're 1418 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to take chances to try to get after 1419 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. He's gonna have all day. Who do the 1420 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,919 Speaker 1: desert people like in this game, I think it's started 1421 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: slightly for Pittsburgh and then moved slightly to New England. 1422 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: So the fans, the fans like, I'm thinking the Patriots. 1423 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like I said, it's gonna come down 1424 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: to it because Kowski disaster, it's gonna Pittsburgh taking the Steelers. 1425 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: I think that the Patriots are so much better at 1426 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: home than they are on the road, and they've shown 1427 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 1: that this year. And Steelers are a cornered animal. I 1428 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: agree with you, Dan Rickie Hollywood. I'm gonna go Patriots 1429 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: with a Gaskowski kicked in the game. All right, let's 1430 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: move on to Sunday Night football. A bummer flex this 1431 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: one out. I guess you can't. Well, it's a little 1432 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,719 Speaker 1: late defending champions late in the game. The Eagles weren't 1433 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: any good options either. I think if they even thought 1434 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: of it. How about the game we just talked to 1435 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: that that was protected. I'm I'm gonna be at this game, 1436 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: by the way, tell us more. I just decided I'm 1437 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: gonna go through that instead of doing this whole sit 1438 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 1: here for four hours and wait for you know, till 1439 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 1: the and to talk about enough minutes. I'm just gonna 1440 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: go the Eagle. This is just a little made a 1441 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Mark story. I was excited. No, I'm gonna do it. 1442 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: You can be fine without me for one week. The 1443 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: Eagles are six and seven after their loss to Dallas 1444 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: that really cooked them. They could not find a way 1445 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: to get past the Cowboys in Big d And it's 1446 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 1: getting worse because now Carson Wentz it was reported Wednesday 1447 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: that he had backed spasms and it was gonna probably 1448 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,640 Speaker 1: keep him out this week. Now the report is that 1449 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 1: he is a fractured vertebrae and that and that could 1450 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 1: be the end of his season. So you're gonna get 1451 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, who is not for nothing, the reigning Super 1452 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. But he didn't look like it 1453 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: when he played earlier in the season. West big test 1454 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: here against the Rams, who I assume are gonna be 1455 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: angry and youngry after that embarrassing Sunday Night football loss 1456 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: against the Bears. Were bringing Youngry back, bringing back Henry 1457 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: and younger. Can we can't even call this a rematch? 1458 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Can we? The Eagles team is so much different than 1459 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 1: it was last year when Carson Wentz got injured. In 1460 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: this game, I don't the falls didn't make like one 1461 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: throw at the end. I was at this game last 1462 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 1: year to win it. It is kind of amazing how 1463 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: the two teams have have turned since then. I just 1464 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 1: loved watching West's face. What what was happening there? Well, 1465 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what what we're supposed to say we believe 1466 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: in Nick Foles now? No? I mean, I think it's 1467 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 1: like we talked about yesterday, the Nick Foles was surrounded 1468 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: by a super Bowl type team last year. It's not 1469 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: like the Eagles offense was lightening up with Carson Wentz. 1470 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he made some plays at the end of 1471 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: last week's game that was if that was his parting 1472 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: shot for the season, it was almost nice to go 1473 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: out on a high note. If the Eagles defense had 1474 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: stood up at the end of that game, who knows, 1475 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 1: we would be talking differently. And that's been the It's 1476 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 1: been the case for the Eagles all year. When their 1477 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: offense does do something, their their defense has given up 1478 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot of late drives to lose games. I mean, 1479 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: think of the big blown leads that they've had or 1480 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: their season could be different. But they're they're a very 1481 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 1: average team. There's no reason that it has to be 1482 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 1: one of the more depressing Super Bowl follow ups because 1483 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 1: of the It wasn't just a team winning the third 1484 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: or fourth Super Bowl and then oh they have an 1485 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 1: off year. It was the most heightened experience in Eagles 1486 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: fan history. And then you followed up with a lot 1487 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: of the same characters and you look a lot more 1488 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: like the team from two years ago, which was what 1489 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: eight and eight and ultra boring. They look loaded and 1490 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: young and innovative. They've had a lot of injuries though, 1491 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they have had a ton of injuries. Uh, 1492 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: but you're right. I mean I think I I used 1493 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 1: this this matchup to kind of revisit the whole Golf 1494 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz debate uh in QB Index and just thinking 1495 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: how not that I don't. I think both teams would 1496 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: do the same and they're happy, but how things can 1497 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 1: change even sort of since that moment where you know 1498 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz towards a c L, golf has taken another 1499 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 1: step up. I think since then Wentz is physically talented, 1500 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: everyone would certainly want him, but I think the Rams 1501 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: are happy with the guy that they've had, and he's 1502 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,759 Speaker 1: been durable, and he's two years younger and he's getting 1503 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: better every year. Things do change fast. I read three 1504 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 1: articles last week about John D. Filippo as as the 1505 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: hot head coaching came right, And I do want to 1506 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: anybody that kind of writes off the Eagles down with 1507 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,839 Speaker 1: Nick Foles bind center. I get it, but that remains 1508 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: what happened this time. I'm last year really going into 1509 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: January more. Uh one of the more stunning experiences to 1510 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 1: watch as an NFL fan. Ever, So is it is 1511 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: it completely impossible that he gets hot and and they 1512 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 1: put up a fight here against the Rams. I don't 1513 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 1: think so, but I don't. I don't know, but but 1514 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: in none in terms of your season though, because you 1515 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 1: go from what's Rams, then Texans, and then you're gonna 1516 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: beat the Redskins. So what so they go, I finish 1517 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: eight and eight. I think eight wins might get you 1518 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: in this because I think seven, eight and one might 1519 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 1: get you in for the Vikings. At this stage, it's 1520 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 1: it seems possible. But I think it's a big game 1521 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 1: for the Rams because they've had two of their worst 1522 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: offensive performances of the season. They've certainly missed Cooper Cup. 1523 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 1: The Lions maybe showed a little bit of a blueprint 1524 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,879 Speaker 1: of roughing up their receivers at the line of scrimmage, 1525 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: which worked pretty well. The Eagles might not have the 1526 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: personnel to really pull off that strategy, but I think 1527 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: the Rams would feel a lot better if they can 1528 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 1: go put up forty burger up or something like that, 1529 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: because their offense hasn't looked the same. Can you imagine 1530 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: a world where Nick Foles does somehow win out, They 1531 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: go nine and seven, they get into the playoffs, nick 1532 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Foles takes them back to the Super Bowl and wins 1533 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 1: it again. Then you've got a little quarterback controversy. I 1534 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: would think you would. Some people just want to watch 1535 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the world burn. Uh. Finally, Monday Night football. Uh. It 1536 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: is the eleven and two New Orleans Saints who got 1537 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 1: back on track with the help of Taysom Hill in 1538 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: his blocked punt that sent them on their way to 1539 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: went over the bucks um Greg. Now they travel to 1540 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 1: Charlotte to face the Panthers. Panthers team in an epic 1541 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: free fall there now six and seven, riding a five 1542 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: game losing streak, playing a quarterback who can't throw. You 1543 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 1: know what kind of game? This feels like um um 1544 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 1: injured bird game? How about like a last coaches last 1545 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 1: stand game. I mean, I feel like this is the 1546 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: last stand of the Ron Rivera era. You gotta he's 1547 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna take the fall for camp. I hope he doesn't. 1548 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: But that's I think the signals that that David Tepper, 1549 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the new owner, is sending in some ways by helping, 1550 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, forcing him to fire coaches and just some 1551 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 1: of the wi just reading the local reports. And that's 1552 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: what new owners do. They want, they want new guys. 1553 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,560 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera talked about it in the off season. He 1554 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: felt more pressure coming into this season. He felt like 1555 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: his job was online and his defense is the reason 1556 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: why they're so bad. It's not Cam Newton. I really don't, 1557 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 1: you know. I know Cam Newton's arm is is off, 1558 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: like that's a fact. But he made a lot of 1559 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: really nice throws last week too. He also missed plenty 1560 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: of throws. But I've seen Cam Newton miss throws his 1561 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 1: whole career, and he had some bullets, like he threw 1562 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: a forty yard throw across the field to the outside 1563 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 1: Laton section. I guess I'm confused about the injury, and 1564 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't think his accuracy or his play is the 1565 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: reason there's six and seven. I think it's that they 1566 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: have no passive disagree with you more. I mean, I 1567 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: don't His injury is obvious when you watch him play. 1568 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 1: He's not making the throws that he's not he's not 1569 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 1: making the same throws. But in that game, for instance, 1570 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 1: he made a number of of solid throws. And if 1571 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 1: their defense had been playing better through assertive as a runner, 1572 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 1: right now because of the injury, I mean, I think 1573 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 1: he's changed his whole style of play. I do wonder 1574 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: about that because there was the sequence on the goal 1575 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 1: line against the Browns at the end, and that almost 1576 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: felt like if that's it for Rivera and Turner, what 1577 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 1: a terrible way to go out That goal line sequence 1578 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 1: where McCaffrey and Cam Newton don't run the ball for 1579 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: three straight plays with the game online, Like just didn't 1580 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: feel like the Panthers. I just I don't point to 1581 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: riveras like this lingering year after year problem for the 1582 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 1: pan Like if you go, if you get rid of them, 1583 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: you better know you're gonna get someone. But there's all 1584 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 1: these these coaches, like the John Harbaughs and all these 1585 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna dump them and go find a 1586 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 1: new coach. It's like change for the sake of change, 1587 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 1: because Rivera is not that. It's just new owners want 1588 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 1: their own guy. This is what bad franchises do, though 1589 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 1: they some guy comes in, you have to change your 1590 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 1: whole scheme to fit him, and then it's another three 1591 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 1: or four years and you don't even have the right 1592 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: players for your scheme. And not to mention, they're like 1593 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: seven to nine teams that could be looking to make 1594 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: a coaches change. Do you really want to get into 1595 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,519 Speaker 1: that scrum? And you're gonna find some that's definitely better 1596 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: than Ron Riverez get especially when you have North Turner 1597 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: and I don't think they you know, it wouldn't shock 1598 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: me if they win this game. I wouldn't pick them, 1599 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,599 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't like stun me if they win this game. 1600 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 1: The Saints over the last three weeks, I don't think 1601 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 1: it's time to panic. But there's their thirty first out 1602 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 1: of thirty two teams in yards, so to me, that 1603 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 1: seems like a problem. They're only been better than the 1604 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals in terms of yards the last three weeks, so 1605 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 1: it's not like just one week they didn't play well 1606 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 1: on offense. Last week period, Uh, they need to fix 1607 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 1: the running game, which is hard for me to believe. 1608 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 1: They were the number one running game in the league 1609 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: last year according to Football Centers their eighth and sinking. 1610 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 1: Right now, they haven't quite been the same. I'm not 1611 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 1: really sure why they're not as deep on offense. They're 1612 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 1: They're a great defensive team right now. They're playing much better, 1613 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 1: but I don't rankin da leap. Sheldon Rankins and Cam 1614 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Jordan has backed up like his amazing season with one 1615 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,560 Speaker 1: just as good. So they're a good team. But it's like, 1616 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I want to see those old Saints back. We should 1617 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,839 Speaker 1: have a moment of silence Ricky Hollywood for Brandon Marshall 1618 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: letteran wide receiver who it looked, finally, at long last, 1619 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: at the age of thirty four after decade plus in 1620 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the league, was gonna at least appear in the playoffs, 1621 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: but the Saints parted ways with the wide receiver. He 1622 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 1: will not be playing January football. That's it said. Maybe 1623 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 1: they I would say, maybe they'd bring him back, but 1624 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: he didn't even play for them every Diddy, I don't 1625 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 1: think so. Now here's where it gets even worse. They 1626 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 1: cut him to make room for Eric Swope, who they 1627 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: claimed off waivers from the Colts yesterday and then today 1628 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 1: they dumped Eric Swope? Was that just like a cover? 1629 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 1: There is one way that Brandon Marshall could wind up 1630 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Tell us, let's say a little team 1631 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 1: called the Cleveland Browns signed him, and let's say the 1632 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Browns take out the Broncos like I know they will. 1633 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: You guys think I'm taking the Ravens at my luck. 1634 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking up the brown Saturday night. You clowns think 1635 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock up the Ravens. I have never locked 1636 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 1: them up and I will never lock them up. Wow, 1637 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 1: that was great. You know though, you're changing because you 1638 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 1: didn't like that. We gave you heat. That's all. I 1639 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 1: do not want to hear about that, because if I 1640 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I've only won seven in a row, which goes totally 1641 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: silent on the show, I'm gonna win. I'm going hate 1642 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 1: in a row and I'm not gonna hear any nonsense 1643 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 1: about asterisk next to it and a bunch of malarkey 1644 01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: by you guys, you a little pr machine. I'm gonna 1645 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: it's also, it's a primetime game. I can get over 1646 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 1: it by Sunday morning. If I if I lose this thing, Wawn, 1647 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 1: I should have locked up the Browns in the first place. 1648 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 1: This is a great spot for your browne. You will 1649 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 1: not critique now you go quiet that worked. I fully 1650 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,679 Speaker 1: enjoy locking up. Are you trying to say that work? 1651 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Are you trying to say that that was the plan 1652 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 1: the whole time? That it was the entire time? Like 1653 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock up the Ravens, okay, but you know what, 1654 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 1: I think there's something There's something cosmically wrong about me 1655 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 1: locking up the Ravens, and I don't like the whole 1656 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 1: energy around it. So I'm going with the team that 1657 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: I will. I will die with if I need. Don't 1658 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: really care. The good thing is it's on Saturday, like 1659 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: you said, so we won't have to deal with any 1660 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: fallout if if well you might, Oh yeah, Mark will 1661 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,759 Speaker 1: be in a real chipper moved on case Keenum drops 1662 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: a bomb on the brown season. But don't don't have 1663 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 1: a great feeling about the Browns game. But you know what, 1664 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 1: I haven't had a good reading on him all year. 1665 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,639 Speaker 1: I want to recognize this is the red Zeppelin Walla 1666 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Walla that it is. It's a bold move. You're backing 1667 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 1: your team, and you're right cosmically, you don't belong attached 1668 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 1: to the Ravens. Never. Oh, that's always buy it in. 1669 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 1: That's a loyal friend. It's a great move. It's shows strength. 1670 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I agree, it's a better lock I agree, but it's 1671 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 1: always a mirror. Well, that took effort for you to agree. 1672 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: But if he pulls it off, it's it's it's just 1673 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 1: another it's great. It's just another gigantic moment for me 1674 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 1: this season. You deserve credit if you don't think you're 1675 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: getting enough credit for that seven or Rold, that's a 1676 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,719 Speaker 1: great run. That's got to be close to a record 1677 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: for a lock offs. I don't know what is it. 1678 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what's got to be right around there. 1679 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: And and I, since we're in this general conversation before 1680 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 1: we get out, I'm three. I'm three into a season 1681 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 1: ending thirteen game winning streak that's going to have people 1682 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: remembering the Chris Carter run on it on ESPN. What 1683 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,639 Speaker 1: about I mean, uh, like the Liam McK run from 1684 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen on NBC went throw back six from 1685 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 1: six back. It's it's happening. Oh no, what if? What 1686 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,839 Speaker 1: if the Browns lose and the Ravens win on Sunday, 1687 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 1: then we're in trouble. I've got a lot of room 1688 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 1: and time to make it up. I'm not giving up 1689 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 1: with just being down by two. As you mentioned you 1690 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 1: were a couple of days ago. I'm in trouble and 1691 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 1: it's a must win situation. I'm the cornered animal as 1692 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: well in that game. But I want to bring up 1693 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, Greg the rainmaker, what 1694 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 1: has he been retired? Well, I'm a man who listens 1695 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: to criticism. Dr rainmak up. Let me in my money. 1696 01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Now your knees. No, I really want to to hear. 1697 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:09,320 Speaker 1: They don't crop and I wanted Dan done. It's gonna 1698 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: be good, yeah, Mark, Mark. I think Market made a 1699 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: really good point that it was taking up too much, 1700 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 1: too much time of the show like this is. I 1701 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 1: didn't even after Mark, I didn't even Dan. Now you 1702 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 1: mentioned that it needed some more wins lately and people 1703 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 1: are losing their money, and that's that's trouble. I mean, 1704 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 1: that's real life sit you well, hold on, Greg, Actually 1705 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,600 Speaker 1: you miss you miss heard my critique. My critique is 1706 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: not that the segment exists, it's that you were starting 1707 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 1: to do like three or four in an episode finding 1708 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 1: I think we all felt like, if you find one, 1709 01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 1: you're hanging your hat on. Love can enjoy that. What's 1710 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 1: going on, you're playing hard to get it was it 1711 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:54,400 Speaker 1: was taking to uh, Greg, did you forget to do it? 1712 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 1: To come back with the rad did you simply forget 1713 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 1: to do it? We also, you know, because of our success, 1714 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,639 Speaker 1: we've had more advertisements like the Los Angeles Country Club. 1715 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 1: I believe there was like the iradiotrotic that advert. I 1716 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: actually did not. I did not. I refused to read 1717 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: one of those ads this week because I did. I 1718 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: wanted there to be space for your little thing. So 1719 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 1: everybody's cooking up different theories about the situation. I love it. 1720 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean it could have I think ever got to 1721 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 1: do it. That's my theory. He simply what he's doing here, 1722 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,720 Speaker 1: he's he wants now everyone to come after us for 1723 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 1: blaming us for routing the segment that everyone else loves. 1724 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 1: This is definitely just like I would. I would bet 1725 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 1: I would tell you on my children's lives that that 1726 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: is not what if Dr Rosenthal was to put on 1727 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 1: his psychiatrist had here, what would he say was the 1728 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: reason behind this. Dr Rosen Rosen who knows. I don't know. 1729 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 1: He's out of money right now? Well, alright, well you know, 1730 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,719 Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll tune in next week. Maybe the Rainmaker 1731 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 1: comes back, or maybe he has gone forever. That's it. 1732 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,160 Speaker 1: What if if all of you listeners start begging, maybe 1733 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe I'm coming back there? It is the Diesmond Cast. 1734 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 1: All right, next time you hear from us, it will 1735 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 1: be all the Sunday games and Saturday games recapped. Thank 1736 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 1: you to everybody. And by the way, that subredd it 1737 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 1: is up to ten thousand uh strong now, which is 1738 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 1: really a credit to our audience and how loyal and 1739 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,640 Speaker 1: awesome you guys are. In addition to everything else, we 1740 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 1: have the best list of any podcast both in this building, 1741 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put it up against any other podcast. 1742 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: What what what fans we have of them according to 1743 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: this or bots? But that's fine. That still leaves you 1744 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 1: with real people. Absolutely. All right, let's get out of here. 1745 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off four quiet story. Ricky. See 1746 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 1: you just parachuted into this huge hit podcast, isn't it great? 1747 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: It's amazing at Tampos, NFL. Al right, everybody till Sunday night,