1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: All right, we've uh you know, start on the short 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: week here with Cleveland and certainly a lot of explosive 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: players to worry about with this team. They got a 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: lot of weapons on offense, defense, special teams, UM, make 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: a lot of make a lot of big plays and 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: certainly cause a lot of a lot of problems. So um, 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, Coach Kitchens is very aggressive coach offensively, they 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: do a good job attacking defenses and create a lot 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: of explosive plays UM in all areas of the game. 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Great great runner, receivers, quarterback, experienced offensive line. You know. Defensively, 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: do a good job turning the ball over. UM create 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: negative plays, long yardage, three and outs and special teams 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: you know to two good returners, good return game, UM, 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: good coverage players, big kicker, punter UM. So solid, solid team, 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: a lot of talent that uh. John Dorseys and Coach 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: Kitchens their organization to put together. So they have a 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: big challenge for us Sunday, short week here to get 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: ready for these guys and and uh and play competitively. 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: They do a lot of things well, cause a lot 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: of problems. Where's your hand roll, m Mike Bill? You 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: guys announced it in the transaction on the trade versus 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: a new treats. Does he have that? Look forward to 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: seeing how it fits you guys, he's a very experienced 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: receiver sat all out of production. Um, so yeah, excited 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to have him. Sara goes background with him. Whether it 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: was you meeting with him coming out of records, Yeah, 27 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: we go way back. Serious did you see Are you serious? Yeah? 28 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: We saw everybody at Rutgers. Um. Similar question with Justin Baffel. 29 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Wanted to let him have make that transaction is available. 30 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: It's a good, good player, Um, excellent player, is a 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: good career. Um, have a little background with him. I 32 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: feel like he'sn't help our team. What's that background? People 33 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: on our staff done with him? Let we've played against him? 34 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Stuff gotta handle bill. Freddy Kitchens has only been an 35 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: offensive play caller for like half of last year. It 36 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: happened this year. Do you have a good grasp of 37 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: what his system is and what they try to run there? Yeah? 38 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: They have probably second or third most highest never explosive 39 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: and big plays any team in the league. So it's 40 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: pretty obvious. A lot of catching run plays. Um, they're 41 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: very aggressive, get the ball down the field. Um, can 42 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: they have a variety of things that they do, and 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: they create explosive play opportunities and they have players that 44 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: can make them. What have you seen out of Baker 45 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Mayfield in the season. A smart player? Um, they give 46 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: him control of things to the line of scrimmage, good arm, 47 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: they make all the throws, get the ball down the field, 48 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: good touch, extensive plays. Um, you can move around. You know, 49 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: scrambles for a touchdown against Seattle, so you know he can. 50 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: He can hurt your run on the ball and says 51 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: that runs all the time. But he can extend plays 52 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: with his legs with aphleticism, and I make all the 53 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: throws down the field, throws all in the run. Hid 54 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: all right? He was mostly playing the slot. He's a 55 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: primary played the slot. Put some other big receivers like 56 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Broma Fell and Chris Coogan and played pull on the 57 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: slot before they came here. Then they were primarily playing outside. 58 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I guess in this system he's that's something we've taken 59 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: entire offseason to see if you can fit outside or 60 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: is it just kind of a wait and see process. Yeah, 61 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean we haven't been on the field yet, so 62 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: wait a little bit early for all that is there 63 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: something about bigger slot receivers that you guys like you 64 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: can move outside. I mean, you've watched us play a lot, 65 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: and you know, we've moved receivers around for twenty years. 66 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: So sometimes they guys playing some one spot, sometimes they 67 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: play in different spots. That's on the formation, game plan, play, personnel, 68 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and so forth. So I we'll see how it goes. 69 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Everyone are listen. Who is there at all any carry 70 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: over from what he was doing in atlant to just 71 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: scheme wise to what you guys are gonna have to 72 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: do here? Or is it kind of a newage? Yeah, 73 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: you know, we spent a couple of different systems. I'm 74 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: willing to say all that comes ago, right, Phil Buil, 75 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: It's fun to ask you about Jared Stidham and just 76 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of check in and see how his progress has been. 77 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Almost halfway through the season here. You guys did have 78 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on the roster for a little while, now 79 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: back to two. Um, So how has he done with 80 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the reps? You know we've seen get a few reps 81 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: of games, but reps in practice as well. Yeah. Good, 82 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Jared's smart kid. Um takes things up very quickly. I 83 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: guess a good grasp of the offense given where he 84 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: is in his career. Um, you know, saydled everything that 85 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: we've we've thrown at him. Yeah, practice does a good job. 86 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of passes on our defense 87 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: and when he has an option, need to you know, 88 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: get the offensive snaps. He's he's prepared and that's a 89 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: good job with those. But you know it's always different 90 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: in the game. But he's doing all they can do. 91 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: It's challenged and me managed the practice snaps with only 92 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: two guys versus three links that you had three a 93 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: few weeks there, ye season to manage it with two 94 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and then three, but just you know, it's really not 95 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: that many snaps in the regular season. It's easier with three. 96 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Probably in training camp, Um, maybe even four and on 97 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: you know how they are and who needs one and 98 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: so forth. But I mean two's fine. Daniels happens this 99 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: year and how big have been challenges for a secondary 100 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: to have hid and drugs slash fields. Yeah, they have 101 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of good players, um, and you mentioned two 102 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: of them. There's plenty of other ones too. Um thrown 103 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: them back the tight ends many other receivers. However, that 104 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: goes Higgins to uh callaway you know so um yeah, 105 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: but again they move there guys around so so you 106 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: don't always know where he is. But he's an exclusive playmaker. 107 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: So the Jets game, UM and many other games. Acrobatic catches, 108 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: good quickness, it's good after the catch, and who can throws. 109 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Had had a couple of passes as well, So he's 110 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of um you know, threat to run 111 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: with the ball or throw it if he gets to 112 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: behind a line of scrimmage. So, I mean he's a 113 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: he's a good player. They use in a lot of 114 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: different ways, and you know he's one of the many 115 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: weapons they have and he's just its hard to just 116 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: key on one guy because they have so many guys 117 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: that can get him jack. Have you seen Damian Harris progress, 118 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: I know heviously the good opportunities in the Jets. Yeah, 119 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Damian's not a good job for us too and does 120 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: a good job in practice and um, you know, just 121 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: continue to work hard in his roles offensively for a 122 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: second and third down in the kicking game. So it 123 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: was good to see him, you know, good a little 124 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: action um against the Jets. We have pretty good depth 125 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: at that position, so exeft to see how that goes, 126 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: but it's not a good job. Glad we have Bill 127 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: having worked Josh Warden and Antonio Brown into the offense 128 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: mid season each and the last thirteen months. Does that 129 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: experience as a staff and as an offense benefit you 130 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: in any way bringing Mohammed into providing a template or 131 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: are you kind of starting for scratch with each each 132 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: guys that come in. Yeah, I think each players is 133 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: a little bit is a little bit different, and really 134 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: it's it's more about the game plan right now than 135 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: it is you know, starting on kind of day one 136 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: and going through an installation schedule, just sort of what 137 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: we're doing this week, we what the Browns do with 138 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: their coverages are, or what our what our game plan is, 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: what our assignments are, what ad justustins we have to make, 140 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: and so forth. I mean, go back and talk about 141 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: things that happened earlier in the year. I mean, there's 142 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: a time for that, and we certainly have a lot 143 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to catch up on. But the most important thing for 144 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: a player coming onto the team, it is the immediate game, 145 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: upcoming game. So let's we'll focus most our attention build 146 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: with their defense. How much does it resemble stematically what 147 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: you've seen from Carolina, there's some elements of it. Um. 148 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, they do a good job. They're very aggressive, disruptive. Um. 149 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, they they bring guys off the edge and 150 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: run games inside that kind of thing. Linebackers are aggressive 151 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: and run through you know. Shoubert has a lot of 152 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of production. Two ends are obviously good. You 153 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: know Richardson's good corners are good. Um, so they have 154 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: they have a lot of good players, and they keep 155 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: it moving. You know, they just don't sitting one thing 156 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: all day. They they make you make adjustments, and they 157 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: do enough put enough pressure on you that if you 158 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: miss somebody or if you take a bad step or 159 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: a little bit o position, they guys take advantage of it, 160 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, Olivier certainly, Garrett, you know, like I said, 161 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: Richardson and um, I don't Showburt. These guys are you know, 162 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: they have a lot of production as well, tackles for laws, 163 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, disruptive plays, sick so forth. They get a 164 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of negative plays. There's a lot of three and outs, 165 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of short drives. You don't they get though, 166 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: get a negative play in the offense. It's second eleven 167 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: or third and long, so they you know, they went 168 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: on one of those two downs then third and long 169 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: as I think they've only given up one third and 170 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: long all year or so, they get you in third 171 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: and long. They're pretty much off the field. So that's 172 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: scen area we want to stay out of always, but 173 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: especially against these guys. School I can come back meeks, 174 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: especially having better. You've moved past it, and maybe you've recruited. Yeah, 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: we're onto this week. We moved past a lot of 176 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: things this year. Yeah, we're we're in the grounds. I 177 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: know James Devil is on I are, but he's had 178 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: all the practices and all the games. How much does 179 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: that help happen? Guy like that been around maybe the 180 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: leadership round. Yeah, James done a great job for us. UM. 181 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: So is David Andrews. Both those guys have really been 182 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: outstanding with the UM you know, off the field leadership 183 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: that that they can UM give. They both have a 184 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: lot of experience they can relate to the guys and 185 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: and um I've played against a lot of these individual 186 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: players who or some teams that we played against, and 187 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: I've been very helpful. They're been really helpful to me. 188 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Just as another kind of perspective on you know, where 189 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: we are, um from from what they see and then 190 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: they see things you know, you know, very mature and 191 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: um enlightening way. So it's man. I will share both 192 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: out there on the field. But um, they've done all 193 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: they can do. They contribute a lot on a daily basis, 194 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: and um um personally very appreciative of what what they 195 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: do for the team, what they've done for me personally 196 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: involve just to fall up and James Devlin, do you 197 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: view him as a guy that might be able to 198 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: come back this year or are you looking at him 199 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: as out for the rest of the season. Yeah, we'll 200 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: tell you a week by the week and see how 201 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: it goes. Final questions Hunter and account had you better 202 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: to plan for the Browns but not have to plan 203 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: for Jamie Hollins not following him? Well he used to 204 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: be in therese how he's in years. It's the National 205 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Football League. You guys move around all the time. So yeah, 206 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: it's great to have Jamie on our team, no doubt there. 207 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Just going back to Howard instrument ously been helping James 208 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Ferns and Elanon Roberts for really cooled down to the season. Yeah, Well, 209 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: that was Yeah, you're right. I mean there's two guys 210 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: that really didn't play that position that played it last week. 211 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: So that was That's an example. But there's there's a 212 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of plays where it could be in a kicking game, 213 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: pass protection, running game, um so for it just overall, 214 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: how a certain guy will take on blocks or how 215 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: they react to certain um you know, things that happened 216 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: that you know when you've played against the guy and 217 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: I had the kind of experience against them that you 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: can you know, impart that experience to a teammate. So 219 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, there's a lot of little things. 220 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: There's a million different conversations probably over the course of 221 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: the day that those guys have that I'm not a 222 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: part of it, but I just you know, I know 223 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: in general, the feedback is very positive and for what 224 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: they give us and what they put into it, you know, 225 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: they're not in the way, they don't try to do 226 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: too much. They're there to help and there they're very helpful. Okay, okay, great, 227 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: thank you