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Speaker 1: We are continuing our division previews for the Favorites podcast,

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Speaker 1: our betting previews. Today we're talking the NFC North. We

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Speaker 1: got a very special guest, Rich Reebar from Sharp Football Analysis.

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Speaker 1: We're going to dig into all of it. Me and

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Speaker 3: So I'm in, Hello, hot shot. How are we doing,

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Speaker 3: brother dude?

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Speaker 1: I am so good. So here's how I feel about

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Speaker 1: the Bears right now. I said, we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: NFC North. This is how national the hype is for.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going deep into sort of connecting the dots

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Speaker 2: I see that there's a story by Bill Barnwell.

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Speaker 1: Barnwell is ranking players according to are you going from

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Speaker 2: Are you going from starter to Pro Bowl? Et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: On this list, he could have there. He had Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: He had Garrett Wilson, right, superstar quarterback on a hot team,

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Speaker 1: talking about the New York Jets. The picture that they

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Speaker 2: It is a Chicago Bear.

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Speaker 1: So you think, oh well, it must be justin fields.

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Speaker 1: That's all anyone could talk about. Right There is so

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Speaker 1: much hype around the Chicago Bears that instead of Garrett

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Speaker 1: in with a different Chicago Bear in a Chicago Bear helmet.

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Speaker 1: Safety Jakwan Brisker, second year safety who Bill Barnwell says,

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Speaker 1: will go from starter to Pro Bowl status this year.

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Speaker 1: That's how hot the hype is around the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 3: So it's it's a scary time to be a bet

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Speaker 3: In that book, all right, I'll say the biggest value

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Speaker 3: is they go over which team has the better rest? Right,

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Speaker 5: The Bears are the only team in the NFL that

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Speaker 5: We have some of the top people, like probably assume

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Speaker 5: The NFL doesn't look at the because they clearly don't

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Speaker 5: because once again it's just completely lopsided. You know, teams

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Speaker 1: we're talking about interesting divisions, we're talking about the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: They've got the Bears, one of the.

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Speaker 5: Loves will be better than Aaron Rodgers' career, but twenty

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Speaker 5: I totally get why they're there, and I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: Jordan loves as a QB fantasy QB in Sean Cruner's

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts on this part, Simon.

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Speaker 1: What is your take on Rich's idea that maybe green

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Speaker 3: I keep thinking of Jesse from breaking bad, screaming they

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Speaker 3: I gotta fake green Bay Rich. He made really good

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Speaker 3: we've seen history of these guys first time starts. Even

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Speaker 3: nothing against Jordan Love for that. He's literally following up

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Speaker 3: This kid is a mobile quarterback with a really good

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Speaker 3: behind it. I'll be on them next year, after Jordan

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter going against the grain. Rich is going with

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to answer, because you probably just

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Speaker 4: I will say, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say like a Packers Hawk either.

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Speaker 1: Still good name, right, let's talk about one of those

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Speaker 1: Four to one to win the Division. Seven and a

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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of the line is new this year.

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Speaker 3: Rookie right tackle, he's either your right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Joking back to the fact that our new rookie offensive

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Speaker 3: So did you see you go sign this weekend?

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Speaker 1: We signed Yanique in Gakway. I don't think that makes

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Speaker 3: Sure he does. I think he had more sex than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you just got better.

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Speaker 2: We got a little better. I said, not all that

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Speaker 1: It's like saying it's like the difference between Mit and

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Speaker 3: with Fields, Like if Fields again they're over under seven

441
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Speaker 3: and a half wins. If you can't get that over,

442
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Speaker 3: that's major red flags to this team, Like this kid

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Speaker 3: needs to take that next step, especially in the since

444
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Speaker 3: they've improved this defense to meet dramatically, like they were

445
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Speaker 3: arguably the worst defense in all football last year. They

446
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Speaker 3: went outside a bunch of guys. I don't know how

447
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Speaker 3: it's gonna work on the field, but they spent the

448
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Speaker 3: money right, They went out and got the linebackers. They're

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Speaker 3: hoping that this d ND they add another d end

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Speaker 3: to this team, because I'm with you, Chad, like the

451
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Speaker 3: job's not done here, they need to add another piece

452
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Speaker 3: of this defense. Just talking upside this this is the team,

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Speaker 3: This is they team. So it wasn't shocked that, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got one hundred and one chat just because everything

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Speaker 3: we just talked about, all the growing pains this team have.

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Speaker 3: They're down to fifty to one now most books, so

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Speaker 3: it seems like the public has really jumped on board

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Speaker 3: with this team. To me, they have the highest upside

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Speaker 3: of any team, just because we've seen these moments from Fields,

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Speaker 3: like I just sticking out of my head that Field's

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Speaker 3: game in prime time where he went up to New

462
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Speaker 3: England and he just took over. He played so well

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Speaker 3: against a Belichick coach defense. I can't stop thinking about that,

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Speaker 3: where it's I know this kid has all the tools there,

465
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Speaker 3: he just needed the weapons. And maybe I'm a year early, Chad.

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Speaker 3: That is a fear here with this Bears team that

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Speaker 3: I'm a year early, because you know, this isn't it

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Speaker 3: for Fields, Like if he sucks this year, the Bears

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Speaker 3: don't care. They're gonna roll out the same team next year.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully improve a little bit next year. I mean, shit,

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Speaker 3: you guys still have like sixty million dollars in cap

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Speaker 3: space to spend. Yeah, you know, there's there's a lot

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Speaker 3: more growth to happen with this team. If this defense

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Speaker 3: can just be better than they were last year, if

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Speaker 3: they can turn the ball over, which was a big

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Speaker 3: thing last year, they just couldn't get thrown overs. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's huge to this Bears offense. So you know, I

478
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Speaker 3: think Claypool and DJ Moore, those are two huge pillars

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Speaker 3: that have on the outside, and with a guy like

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Speaker 3: you know, Fields who can throw the ball deep, I

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Speaker 3: do think he'll take another step this year. Jed. So,

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Speaker 3: my favorite bet right now for this this division is

483
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Speaker 3: them at plus four hundred to win this division in

484
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Speaker 3: the over seven and a half. I just think it's

485
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Speaker 3: all there for this Bears team. And the only fear

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Speaker 3: chad for me right now is where a year early,

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Speaker 3: like if they don't take a step next year, could

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Speaker 3: easily see them taken it next year. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna wait to bet on it. I win a bet

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Speaker 3: at this year just because I think it's all there

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Speaker 3: for them to make a ten and seven eleven and

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Speaker 3: six kind of run this upcoming season just because last

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Speaker 3: year they weren't as bad as a record showed people. Really,

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Speaker 3: they look at last year and they're like, well, look

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Speaker 3: at all these issues they had. I think we both

496
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Speaker 3: can agree there was a little bit of a tank there, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was a little bit of a tank

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Speaker 3: there towards the end of the season. I can just

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Speaker 3: think of when the Eagles played them. Then when the

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Speaker 3: Eagles played Justin Fields missed what was at a quarter

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Speaker 3: of the game right because he had some type of injury,

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Speaker 3: and then he came back and really ran and drove

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Speaker 3: it down the field for a two minute drill and

504
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Speaker 3: basically tied the game up. So there's just a lot

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Speaker 3: going on there where I think too much is being

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Speaker 3: made out of last year. And again, as someone that's

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Speaker 3: heavily back in the Bear's chad, everything I've seen this

508
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Speaker 3: preseason is that Justin Fields has taken the next step.

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Speaker 3: He's calling the plays at the line. He doesn't need

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Speaker 3: the plays in his ear. He's calling the plays and

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Speaker 3: making adjustments at the line. That's what I wanted to see.

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Speaker 3: That's what I saw last year from Hurts before he

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Speaker 3: took the next step, and that's what I'm saying right now.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields So I am way too overly excited about

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Speaker 3: this Bears team. I'm trying to keep a team. But

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Speaker 3: it's all there for them, obviously. The biggest question mark

517
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Speaker 3: is is that defense. Jad We just we don't know

518
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Speaker 3: how this team's going to be put together. It's just

519
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Speaker 3: thrown together all these players right now, we don't know

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Speaker 3: how they're going to be as a unit.

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Speaker 1: So Rich brought up Ryan Poles, and how do we

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Speaker 1: judge what he's done so far inherited Justin Fields. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Bears brilliantly Matt ebra Fluse and Luke Getzi

524
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Speaker 1: last year, after a dreadful game against the Washington Commanders

525
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Speaker 1: had the bye week saw I think what the Eagles

526
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Speaker 1: were starting to do with Jalen Hurtz realized they had

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Speaker 1: a similar player in Justin Fields and really rebuilt the

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Speaker 1: offense over that two week period where it became much

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Speaker 1: more about Justin Field's playmaker. Recognizing Darnel Mooney was hurt,

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Speaker 1: wasn't the same player. They weren't getting the same production

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Speaker 1: from the running game. So I think they learned so

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Speaker 1: much last season about Justin Fields and that's why there's

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Speaker 1: so much enthusiasm.

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Speaker 2: You can start to.

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Speaker 1: Build a team around what his strengths are as he

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Speaker 1: becomes a much better quarterback and doing the things you

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Speaker 1: would just mentioned. Simon Mooney's ankle injury is better. He's recovered,

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Speaker 1: he's faster. Remember this is a sub four to four

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Speaker 1: guy before he was injured. Claypool is the third option after.

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Speaker 2: Mooney and DJ Moore. Cole kmet in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: But you haven't built on the offensive and defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you got to do to win in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am going to be all over the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I'm not denying it, but I am trying to temper

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Speaker 1: my enthusiasm because I do worry about the moves like

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith and the inability to see Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: this could be the anchor for the defense and the

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Speaker 1: tradition of middle linebackers for the Bears, and instead you

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Speaker 1: get rid of them in a team that, like you

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Speaker 1: pointed out, Simon is so good at judging character and

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Speaker 1: talent immediately gives this guy the bag. So I think

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Speaker 1: the jury's out on Polls. Great move to trade down.

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Speaker 1: I thought he did a really nice job the assets

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Speaker 1: he got. But at this point, with this quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the cap space that he's had and the assets he's

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Speaker 1: been able to acquire, they got to win the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl the next two to three years.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: I like the Bears a similar spot of the Jaguars

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Speaker 5: were last year where people were early on the Jaguars

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Speaker 5: and they started out slow. I think if you really

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Speaker 5: like the Bears on the level that Simon does, they're

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Speaker 5: gonna be a real value in season because the back

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Speaker 5: half of their schedule so good. Ex said, the Jaguars

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Speaker 5: are very I was hammering the Jaguars and like week six,

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Speaker 5: Week seven when after they went to London and they

568
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Speaker 5: looked terrible against the Broncos to win the division still

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Speaker 5: against the Titans because the two schedules were gonna flip

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Speaker 5: and the Titans had gotten banged up.

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Speaker 4: I think the.

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Speaker 5: Bears are gonna be a similar team where like they're

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Speaker 5: opening half is not necessarily daunting, but they're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: But I think in the back half of the year,

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Speaker 5: lot of winnable games from the back half of the year,

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Speaker 5: and we already said they have no games for the

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Speaker 1: even with Kirk Cousins, even with Justin Jefferson, even with

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Speaker 1: the eighth easiest schedule.

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Speaker 2: According Sean Kerner, even.

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Speaker 1: With well, that's that's really it, that's their highlights. Do

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Speaker 1: you believe do you believe that they take a step back?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that they are a team that can compete?

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Speaker 3: I am happy to get burned by the Vikings again.

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Speaker 3: I was I bet them to miss a playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: I think I was plus one sixty plus one seventy.

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Speaker 3: That was clearly a dumb bet. They ran away with

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Speaker 3: found a way to win. And you know, after watching

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy, I agree, he does put the

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Speaker 3: is and how hard he knows he has to work.

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Speaker 3: I mean, shit, Kirk might be like thirty five, now

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Speaker 3: thirty four is he's up there in age he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean for a guy like him, his playing style,

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Speaker 3: this is pretty much Pete Kirk Cousins like he's really

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Speaker 3: sharp mentally, he's got all the arm talent in the world.

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Speaker 3: He can make all the throws. It's always been a

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Speaker 3: question of Kirk being consistent. That's always been a problem

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Speaker 3: with Kirk. He's he's inconsistent, and last year he stepped up. Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean he knew to go back and watch a

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Speaker 3: lot of their games when he was in doubt or

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Speaker 3: when he was in trouble. He just threw it up

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Speaker 3: to Justin Jefferson and that's what he should be doing.

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Speaker 3: That's the best receiver in football. Like that, that's what

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Speaker 3: you know, you look for in a quarterback position where

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Speaker 3: you know your back's against the wall. It's third and fourteen,

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Speaker 3: throw to your best guy, live and die or your

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Speaker 3: best guy. And that's what they really did last year.

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Speaker 3: So Chad, you nailed it. We just expect regression. They

658
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: were what ten and zero and one score games. It's

659
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: something crazy like that last.

660
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Year, including the greatest comeback in NFL history.

661
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, which me and Chad we still covered that Colts

662
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: three and a half, but holy shit, was that a sweat. Yeah,

663
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: you know, this is a team that say what you want.

664
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't think they improved on their defense. I still

665
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: think their defense, especially their secondary, had a lot of

666
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: holes in it. And they're playing in a division. Now

667
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: that you know the Lion's gonna throw the ball, we

668
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: expect justin fields better throw the ball like these teams.

669
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: Last year. Detroit still wasn't sure the hell they were

670
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: halfway through the season, right. They really hit their stride

671
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: at the midway point once they really figure out that

672
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: secondary on the defense, the Bears has never found it

673
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: in green Bay never found it. So the Vikings only

674
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: had a nice nice spot last year right to run

675
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: away with this division. I got them behind Green Bay

676
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: and the Bears, right, So I clearly I'm taking an

677
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: under on them. They're just They're just a team that

678
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: I can't get a read on chat So I might

679
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: get burned again by this Vikings team and Kirk Cousins

680
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: because he just is that guy. But I think it's

681
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 3: very telling that the Vikings haven't resigned him either. Right,

682
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: this is his final year of his deal. They're not

683
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: giving him the money that he thought he was gonna

684
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: get this point. So definitely a make or break season

685
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: for Kirk Cousins his Vikings team. I'm gonna think they

686
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: funderneath their pressure. I'm gonna take that under eight and

687
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: a half.

688
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I just don't.

689
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: It defies all logic to better on a team with

690
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: a mediocre defense whose best edge rusher wasn't even signed

691
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: to the team until the past week. They've gotten rid

692
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: of their four time Pro Bowl running back uh and

693
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: they win so many one score games. You can't keep

694
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: betting on a team like that. It's actually throwing bad

695
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: money after bets right, like you're just making.

696
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: The wrong decision.

697
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Could get burned. Rich Mike Tellis were wrong, but I'm not.

698
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be backing a Minnesota Vikings team

699
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: that got so that, so so lucky in so many

700
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: spots last year. I agree with you about Kirk Cousins

701
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: in the Quarterback documentary. I loved the guy. I thought

702
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: he was just honest and open and seemed lovely.

703
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I viewed him, I think he's a douche,

704
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: but he's a likable douche. Like he's the kind of

705
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: guy that so, yeah, you're a you're a little bit

706
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: of a douche chat. I mean, come on, So when

707
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: I looked at Kirk, he just, you know him and

708
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: his wife there. They seem like really nice people, But

709
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: I would lose my fucking mind hanging out with those

710
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: two people, Like I just couldn't be further apart from

711
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: these really nice, sweet Christians. But listen, I don't.

712
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want to hang out with them.

713
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I found him to be a little bit sort of

714
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: corny and earnest, but I also found him to be

715
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: authentically honest, right, And I liked the way he talked

716
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: about being totally bummed about not being invited to NFL

717
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Honors and then and then then they're like asking him

718
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: to do a sketch and He's like, two hours ago,

719
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't even invited. Now you got me singing on

720
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a stage like and so I just thought that was

721
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was totally honest.

722
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: Like him singing in a school choir like him and

723
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: his little boy band group. Not shocked at all that

724
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins sang in a duop with four other guys.

725
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, just's very.

726
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Yes, it was completely on brand.

727
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Rich opinions about quarterback or opinions about the Minnesota Vikings.

728
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: No, I'm in locked up with you guys on this one.

729
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: I mean, like you said, It's just anytime you see

730
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: like a team just have this much of an anomaly

731
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: and be so much of an outlier and not just

732
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 5: one score games. I mean, this is a team that

733
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 5: was thirtieth in the NFL and point differential quarters one

734
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: through three, like they just needed like these immense like

735
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 5: jail break situations to go their way, to live that.

736
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 4: Way is so wild.

737
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: Right to just like double down on that and say

738
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 5: like this team was statistically one of the worst teams

739
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: in the NFL quarters one through three and then just

740
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: turned it on like the fourth quarter and all like

741
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: these when when the game was literally just like wild,

742
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 5: like wild West type stuff is crazy.

743
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: You look at like this could.

744
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 5: Be like a Derek Carr situation too, Like this team

745
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 5: feels like they don't have both feet in the door

746
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: with Kirk Cousins as the future. And I get he's

747
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 5: thirty five years old, but what if, like they are

748
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: in the tank, Like does Kirk Cousins like not play

749
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: at some point in the season like Derek carrk the

750
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: end of last year, Like that exists as a non

751
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: zero range of outcomes for this team. The defense is

752
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 5: relying on just so many young players. I mean, and

753
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 5: it's a bummer that they a lot of their top

754
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 5: draft picks just didn't get a chance to play last year,

755
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: like Lewis Sen and Andrew Booth.

756
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 4: But like they're coming in very raw again this year.

757
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: Are they gonna be able to stop anybody? They lose?

758
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: You know in an interior, you know Ron Stopper and

759
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 5: Dalvin Tomlinson, they lose Sadaria Smith. It's just a lot

760
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: to go into seam and their scheduled to like on

761
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 5: our end, doesn't look like that easy at all. I mean, sure,

762
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: you get Tampa Bay to open, but then they go

763
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: at Philadelphia on primetime. That went really well for them

764
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: last year. You play the Chargers, you went at Carolina,

765
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 5: then the Chiefs they play at Chicago after that, a

766
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: team we just talked about.

767
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 4: Then they play the.

768
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 5: Forty nine ers at Green Bay at Atlanta.

769
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 4: Against the Saints.

770
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: Those are their opening ten games at Denver after that. Like,

771
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: I mean, there is not a lot to like here

772
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 5: on paper, Like you even if you don't want to

773
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: outright fade the vikings, like, I don't see how you

774
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: bet on them.

775
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Did you guys see the movie Appenheimer? Remember in Oppenheimer,

776
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: they said there's a non zero chance they could.

777
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: They could literally that the world.

778
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they released the nuclear bomb. So whenever I

779
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: hear someone you use non zero chance, and I hear

780
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: more than you would think given all the nerd tastic

781
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: people we work with, Simon, I now think of a

782
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: non zero chance that Oppenheimer was telling Einstein we could

783
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: blow up the world.

784
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 4: You just hear Matt Damon in there.

785
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Damon. Who was the colonel or the general that.

786
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: He was explaining it to Listen, you guys have heard

787
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,880
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788
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789
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,560
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795
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804
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: us with the Detroit Lions. Time plus one thirty rich

805
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: The total is nine and a half's minus one thirty

806
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: at bet three sixty five to bet the over.

807
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: You mentioned it.

808
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: They have amongst the shortest odds for any team in

809
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: the NFL to win their division. We're not going to

810
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: bet Alliance at plus one thirty's.

811
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: It's it's tough because you I'm excited about the Lions,

812
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 5: right like, I like a lot of what the Lions did?

813
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: You know, Dan Campbell's like a fun guy to root for.

814
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 5: Everything that Ben Johnson you know, has has put on

815
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: basically has read may looks amazing. When you look at

816
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 5: the Lions, they were third in the NFL. And yards

817
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 5: per drive they were fourth, and scoring rate per drive fourth,

818
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: and touchdown rate per drive third, and punt rate per

819
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: drive second, turnover rate per drive.

820
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: They went basically as.

821
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: You know, Jared Goff turning the ball over not They

822
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 5: were nine and one in games they won the turnover battle,

823
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: ozen six in games they lost the turnover battle.

824
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: This is a team that basically don't beat themselves.

825
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 5: And you saw like the youth stuff, right, Like we

826
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: talked about this with the Bears, right the Bears are

827
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 5: probably be in the same trajectory the Jaguars last year,

828
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: where you start maybe below where the market has you,

829
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: and you finished strong. That's what the Lions did last year,

830
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: and it finished the season real strong. They had less

831
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: penalties like the final eight weeks. They were team one

832
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 5: of the least penalized teams the final eight weeks this season.

833
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: So all these things are building up for them, but

834
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: they still do have a lot of questions too. I

835
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: mean this is statistically, if it wasn't for the Bears

836
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: last year, would have had the worst defense in the

837
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: NFL basically in every metric that you can look at.

838
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 5: This team that still has a ton of issues in

839
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: the back end of the secondary. They did you know,

840
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: obviously eight in Hutchinson was a hit, but they still

841
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 5: have pass rush issues and they're one of the teams

842
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 5: the few teams in this Division because of where they

843
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: finished last year, they actually end up getting a little

844
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 5: bit of a harder draw this year than some of

845
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: the other teams that we talked about. I mean, obviously

846
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: you open at Kansas City, but they play Seattle, Atlanta,

847
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: you know at Green Bay. This is the team has

848
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: three Thursday games this year, which is a weird anomaly

849
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: for a season because you open the year on Thursday.

850
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: They always plan Thanksgiving. They get another Thursday game sandwich

851
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: in there. I think in week four at Green Bay.

852
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: There's just like a lot of weird things in place

853
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 5: here where it's like they're kind of a darling, but

854
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: like they have so many holes, Like they they're really

855
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: a hard team to like say, like I expect them

856
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: to like absolutely outright crush too.

857
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: I like a lot what they're doing.

858
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: I feel very positive about the direction they're moving in,

859
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: but I do feel like a lot of people are

860
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 5: treating them maybe like a tier above where they actually.

861
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Are middle of the pack scheduled in terms of strength

862
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: of schedule ranking according to Sean Kerner. You can see

863
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: those at actionnetwork dot com in the Action Network AAP.

864
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: According to PFF, fifth best offensive line in the NFL

865
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: and I mentioned that Burnwell story on ESPN dot com

866
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: where he was rating tiers of players who are going

867
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: to go from Pro Bowlers to Superstars. Three guys on

868
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: that list AJ Tarrell AJ Terrell, cornerback from the Falcons,

869
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence from the Jags, Piney Sewell, offensive lineman for

870
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Speaker 1: the Lions. Simon, last year, you were way ahead of

871
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Speaker 1: the Lions. We were both way ahead of the Lions.

872
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons you love the Lions last

873
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: year was because you thought their offensive line was grating

874
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: so high. And I think you were ahead of the

875
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: rest of the fandom media punditry on the Lions offensive line.

876
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: But you go into this season as enthusiastic about the Lions.

877
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely had a blind spot last year at that defense.

878
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: I was so heavy on the Lions. I just was like, Okay,

879
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: their defense can just be middle of the back. You mean,

880
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, they can easily make a playoff run. Unfortunately,

881
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: they were like thirty thirty two, just bad. So that

882
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: is the big question this year. It's like, we know

883
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: there's no value here on this team. Chat We're looking

884
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: at a team that what was that stead I saw

885
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: I think it might be the first time they have

886
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: a sold out season tickets in like thirty forty years.

887
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: It is peak right now, like which blew my mind

888
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 3: because that's Stafford Calvin Johnson.

889
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: We need the Lions to do well.

890
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: We need the Lions to do well for our soul

891
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: because we love the NFL. With Dan Campbell as a

892
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: head coach, it doesn't.

893
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: Matter if you have one ass, cheek and three tones,

894
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: I will beat your rass.

895
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: I think he's brilliant.

896
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I think he plays against type everyone thinks, oh, tight end, meadhead,

897
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 1: muscle guy. I think he is so smart, he knows

898
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: the game so well. He plays to their strengths. This

899
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: team got better when he decided a couple years ago

900
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: to do the play calls really boring game plan, but

901
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: it fit what they were trying to do. I need

902
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: this team to do well so Dan Campbell continue to.

903
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Have a job.

904
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is football like he when you when someone's like,

905
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: show me a picture of football, He's one of those

906
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: guys you would show a picture of like this is

907
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: what football looks like. This kind of guy. So I'm

908
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: there with you on that one. On paper, I think

909
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: it's all there. Their offense is incredible, Like there there

910
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: will be no shock to anyone that this team will

911
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: finish in top ten and either rushing or passing yards

912
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: or anything like that. Like Jared Goff has looked incredible

913
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: this preseason and their practices that I've seen, right, he

914
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: is a really good repertoire with this wide receiving corps.

915
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on Saint brown Is. I don't know.

916
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: Some people have in pencilan as a top five, top

917
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: eight wide receiver right now, like they're expecting big things

918
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: from this team. So you know, I love it. I

919
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: love that it's all there, Chad. But I think Rich

920
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: nailed it, Like I got so many questions about their

921
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: defense still, And I don't love their schedule. I think

922
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: that the NFL didn't do that many favorites and then

923
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: in so many weird primetime games just because it's rare.

924
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: The NFL has had this opportunity to the lines like this

925
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: is a big market that it is now good they

926
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 3: want to take advantage of that. So don't love it, Chad.

927
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: The nine and a half is a little scary too.

928
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: I got them in nine and eight, right, I think

929
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: that's that's a fair number for this team where I

930
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: do think they're gonna win some games. But Rich also

931
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: talked about they have a hard schedule, so you know,

932
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to damp in Detroit fans. I mean, they

933
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: don't care. They're all in, they're all hyped up. They're

934
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: probably be like you guys are Bear Homers anyway. But

935
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: to me, that's where the value is in this division.

936
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: I think the Bears to me, or the value I

937
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: think Rich he thought it was Green Bay. You're not

938
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: gonna hear too many pro say no, no, no, the Lions.

939
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 3: That's where the value is in this division. Plus one thirty.

940
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: Come on sports books, this should be plus one seventy

941
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: plus one eighty. Like, there's just there's no way I

942
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: think this team is an easy pick to win this division.

943
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: There's just too many questions on this team. So you know,

944
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: I won't be ticking the Rover, won't be benning their

945
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: division odds, won't be ben their Super Bowl odds. But

946
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: in season I can already tell chev we're definitely gonna

947
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: be taking this Lion's team. They're gonna have great matchups

948
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: different points of the year where you know, for four

949
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: and five, four and six, people are gonna be pissed off.

950
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna be leaving there for dead. That's where me

951
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: and you step in chat, like those are our favorite

952
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: teams that people are leaving them for dead when we

953
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: know the talent's still there, nothing's changed, and we saw

954
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: last year this team improved every week and that's what

955
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: you're looking for from their head coach. So sorry, say

956
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: the Lions fans, You're just you're overvalued right now. Like

957
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: even you guys know you guys are overvalued right now.

958
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: So that's the thing. You just got to rain people

959
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: in here. Like again, we're not shooting. Your team won't

960
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: be shocked end of the year. If you guys win

961
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: this division, you are a playoff team. But I just

962
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: don't think the value is there. So this is a

963
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: team I will be taking a small bet on their

964
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: under won't touch any of their divisional odds.

965
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: At this point, Rich, we're living in a world where

966
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions are all of a sudden overvalued.

967
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: That's the NFC, baby, that's the NFC life. I mean

968
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: it's hard. You just look at the NFC. It's just

969
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: the way it is. Man, It's wide open, all right, folks.

970
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Recap best bets.

971
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: Rich likes Green Bay at plus four hundred to win

972
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: the division. Simon likes Chicago at plus four hundred to

973
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: win the division and the Bears over. I have also

974
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: bet heavily on the Bears over, and I have also

975
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: bet heavily on the Bears when it was one hundred

976
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: to one to win the Super Bowl. I will end

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980
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981
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,080
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982
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,759
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983
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:05,640
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984
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: That's me quote the quote from Kerner.

985
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: Better chance of finishing as QB one overall than Justin.

986
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