1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It's that time 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: of week. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are coming 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: you live from the tyrac dot com studios here in 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio tyrack dot com. We'll help 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: you get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping for 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: your rodanser protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers tyrack 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: dot com. The way till you're buying should be congratulations 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: to the US men's basketball team. The Olympic team is 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: the advance to the medal round. I'll be darn. Are 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: you surprised? Well, you shouldn't be, although I want to 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: give Steve Kerr a lot of credit. And in the 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: words of Chris Rock, you typically don't get much credit 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: for something you're supposed to do. But I think he's 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: done a great job. But I'd like you all to 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: do me a favor. Please. If I never hear the 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: term dream team again, it'll be too soon. I was 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: okay ninety two, I'm not okay in twenty twenty four. 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: First of all, to me, a true dream team is 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: not merely a compilation of a bunch of hand picked luminaries. 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: But rather sort of a magical collection of people who 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: come together who ultimately in fact surprise you because they 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: end up being far better than the some of their parts. 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you a story that takes 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: you back to the nineteen thirty six Olympics. I only 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: get to tell this story about every four years, but 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: it never gets old. See, because for my money, there 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: was only one dream team. So let me take you 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: back to nineteen thirty six for the Berlin Olympics and 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: introduce you to a little known Olympic team and Olympic 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: story that will chronicle to what I believe to be 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: the only real dream team. Now. First of all, back then, 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: earning Olympic eligibility was very different, much different, but it 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: set the stage for this unknown upstart, AAU team from Hollywood, 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: California that had been put together merely by a series 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: of open trials. So they assemble the team through a 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: series of open trials, yes true story, they entered the tournament. 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: They somehow manage to survive several qualifying tournaments and even 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: an eight team round robin at Madison Square Garden which 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: they won that gave them the right to represent US 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: men's basketball at the Berlin Olympics, and then the real 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: fun began. These guys all had jobs, and after the 43 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: players informed the respective employers of their intent to compete 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: in the Olympic Games, they were all told if they 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: did so, they would not have jobs when they returned. 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: But they were undaunted. Every member of the team except 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: one said the hell with you, and they made the 48 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: trip anyway. And then the fund really began. The team 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: caught a real break, and I mean a real break 50 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: in the opening round. Their first opponent was supposed to 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: be Spain. Spain forfeited because the Spanish Civil War had 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: broken out, and the entire roster was called to come home. 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: Can't make this stuff up. But after that, the US entrant, 54 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: this little AAU team from Hollywood, got hot. They beat Estonia, 55 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: they beat the Philippine or the Philippines. They mowed down 56 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Mexico and that set up the gold match, the gold 57 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: medal match against Canada, which coincidentally, as you may know, 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Canada is the home of basketball founder James Nasmith, who 59 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: ironically was denied access to the games because of a 60 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: PaperWorks nafu. The US won the game, won the gold medal. 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: The final score was nineteen to eight. Perhaps the reason 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: the score was so low is because there was a 63 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: downpour during the game. Oh that's right. You probably didn't 64 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: know that either. The game was played outside on a 65 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: court made of sand and clay, So they did it 66 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: in Berlin back in nineteen thirty six. But shortly thereafter 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: there are pictures that are out there of the players. 68 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: They're drenched in mud in their uniforms, happily sporting their 69 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: gold medals. To me, that was a dream team. Now. 70 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: That was also the first year that basketball was officially 71 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: recognized as an Olympic sport, and frankly it could have 72 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: been the biggest story of the games. If not, well, 73 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: if not for some guy by the name of Jesse Owens. 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: Having said all that, you have to give this current 75 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: USD team a lot of credit. But here's where I 76 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: find the circle of life to be always so fast mating, 77 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: I believe, and we'll have Mark Madina at midnight. We've 78 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: been talking about this for weeks after watching the exhibition 79 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas about three four weeks ago. I 80 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: do believe we are headed toward a collision course between Canada, 81 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: who beat the US just last year in the United 82 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: States for the gold medal, same as nineteen thirty six. 83 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, Canada has not medaled in basketball in the 84 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: Olympics since nineteen thirty six, when they took the silver 85 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: medal in that infamous nineteen to eight loss on an 86 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: outdoor court in a pouring rainstorm to the United States. 87 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: But Canada's got a little bit tougher draw. They got 88 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: to get past the home team France and victor wim 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: Minyama just for the opportunity to advance. But the US, 90 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: they'll face Brazil in the quarterfinals of the Olympics Men's 91 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: well the quarterfinals of course, this next Tuesday, and should 92 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: they win, which they will, they'll find themselves in a 93 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: semi final matchup against either Serbia or Australia, and the earliest. 94 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 2: Because the US was so dominant, winning all their games 95 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: by accumulative sixty one points, they got the number one seed, 96 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: Germany got the number two seed. They were plus forty 97 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: seven and they're winning differential. So the US has earned 98 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: the right to have, I say this in quotes, an 99 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: easier path. They were never they were never gonna lose 100 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: this thing. I'll eat Crowe trust me. I've asked Ian 101 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: and all my producers to save my sound for the 102 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: last three weeks. The NBA, the USA team is too deep, 103 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: too athletic. They have the finest run and jump athletes 104 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: in the universe, and they might play with their food 105 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: for a while, but when it matters most they're gonna 106 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: squeeze you because they run faster and jump higher, and 107 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: they're more accomplished. And that's just the end of the 108 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: end of the story. But as a result of their 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: performance on the earliest they could see Germany, Canada or 110 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: France arguably the three best teams behind the US, because 111 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: it's certainly not Brazil, North Serbia or Australia. The earliest 112 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: the US could see any of those top three teams 113 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: is the final, so it gets more fun. On Tuesday, 114 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: you have Winter go Home quarterfinal games Victor Weman, Yama 115 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: and France. Well, they'll take on Shay Gilgis in Canada. 116 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: And then you've got reigning World Cup champ Germany, who's 117 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: a fine looking team, a lot of skilled players and 118 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: would they give the US a tussel? Sure, they'll play 119 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: just well enough to lose. They'll face Giannis and Greece, 120 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: and then of course Australia, who won the bronze at 121 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: the last Olympics. They drew a matchup with Serbia and 122 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Jokic Tuesday. If you lose, you're done. Tuesday's winners will 123 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: play Thursday in the semi finals in the United States. 124 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Brazil will face the winner of Serbia Australia, and then 125 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Germany Greece will take on the winner of France Canada 126 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: next Saturday. By the time I sign on this show, 127 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: it will be a fake accompany. My prediction the US 128 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: will beat Canada, doesn't matter. Who's gonna win the bronze. 129 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: In case you missed it, Puerto Rico, Spain and that 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: plucky South Sudan team that became a fan favorite. They 131 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: were all eliminated in the group stage US three and 132 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: oh they lock up the number one overall seed. They 133 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: beat Puerto Rico one oh four eighty three. And I 134 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: give Steve Kerr a lot of credit. I think he's 135 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: done some things that in terms of making adjustments and 136 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: putting lineups on the floor and rotations on the floor 137 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: that best suited the competition. They were playing simple as that. 138 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: But can we please pump the brakes on the Dream Team. 139 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear anything about a dream team. 140 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: This is not a dream team. The US was minus 141 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: five hundred to win the gold medal. That means they 142 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: had an eighty four percent chance. This is before the 143 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: tournament ever started. It's much higher than that. Now. I 144 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: think they were undervalued. I know they had a couple 145 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: of scares in the you know, in the exhibition games, 146 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: they were still five and zero and they might not 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: have won by the margin you wanted them to win, 148 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: but they won. They did what they needed to do 149 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: when they needed to do it. 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It's welcome and a gentleman, a true fan favorite, 195 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: a legend respected nationally and certainly here in Las Vegas, 196 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: a professional sports better or a true advantage gambler. You 197 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: also hear him on contown the Kickoff right here on 198 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. Say hello, good buddy, Bill Krackenberger, the crack Man. 199 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: How you doing, big. 200 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 6: Fellows, Hey, Bernie, thanks for having me. 201 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: On, Buddy, Always a pleasure. And I want to start 202 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: with this. The NFL is back as it were preseason 203 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: is underway right out of the gate. A game is 204 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: called the third quarter due to rain, which reminds everybody 205 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: read the house rules on the ticket. When you make 206 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: a bet, your thoughts. 207 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, good, good good subject. And you know, for people 208 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: that don't know, this is really an unscripted show, I 209 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 6: have no idea what you're going to ask me tonight, 210 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 6: but that's a great starter right there, and I'll just play. 211 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 6: I'm surprised all the people that gamble on the opening 212 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 6: game that do not know the rules. Now, I'm not 213 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 6: trying to say that it's black and white, but you 214 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: have to realize a game. If you have the under 215 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: on the game, you're obviously you're happy as can be. 216 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: But that public life's betting over. So you know, sixty 217 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 6: five percent of them bet over on the game, and 218 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 6: they said they feel they should get paid. A game 219 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 6: has to go normally. Book the book. It does change. 220 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 6: I want to give you an in general sense fifty 221 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: five minutes, and I know people were giving one of 222 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 6: the guys online who actually does talk a lot, Jeff 223 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 6: Benson down at Circa here in Vegas. He does talk 224 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 6: a lot about the rules, regulations and what goes on 225 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 6: the answers, tweets, and so he's going to be open 226 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 6: to some criticism. He's got to stake some back and forth. 227 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: And sure enough, Jeff was bombarded with people saying, you're 228 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 6: supposed to pay. It went over already earlier and we 229 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 6: should get paid. And then these these sports books back 230 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 6: East that came into the country, the DraftKings, the Fandels, 231 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: all the sports books that have these type of refund 232 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 6: wagers trying to give a courtesy back to the customer. 233 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 6: So they gave refunds on these type of situations in 234 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: the past, So what does that open the door for 235 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: everyone to expect refunds in the future. And it didn't happen, 236 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 6: and people are upset, they're mad. It's all misplaced rage. 237 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 6: Everyone is claiming that, you know, and someone like myself 238 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: who actually did wager on the game. I wagered on it, 239 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 6: and I had it looked like now it was early, 240 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: it was a third quarter, but it looked like I 241 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 6: probably was on the wrong side of the opening game. 242 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 6: I had Houston. I actually took two points with Houston. 243 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: I actually sent you a copy of one of my 244 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 6: two thousand dollars bets that I made on Houston. 245 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: Plus two. 246 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, it could have but they just missed 247 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 6: a field goal. It could have on either way, but 248 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 6: I'm not upset either way. Last year twice, both times 249 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 6: I was winning preseason game. Both times AGA they got 250 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: called from lightning. They got called due to lightning. So 251 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: I understand the way it goes. I also sent you 252 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 6: copies today. If some other games I bet and you 253 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 6: see that, yeah, I'm just saying, you see it so 254 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 6: I get the best of the line, but you still 255 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 6: have to win the game. So it's a lot of 256 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: people are new to the sports betting scene too, so 257 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 6: I'm not really coming down on them. I'm just saying, 258 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 6: just know your rules and regulations with the sports books 259 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 6: you play in, so you know it's I don't want 260 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: to sound like I'm mad about people not knowing the 261 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: rules because some people, I guess won't know. They're brand 262 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 6: new the sports betting and that's what these places depend on. 263 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 6: Someone these newbies coming in and just bet in the 264 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: opening game just to have action. As you can see, 265 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 6: I bet the game. I had a nice edge on 266 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 6: the game before tip off. 267 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: But to your point, if you're going to wager your 268 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: hard earned money, understand the rules before you're going in, 269 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: so you don't feel like you're being slighted. You know, 270 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: sports books grade thousands of tickets, not necessarily sticking up 271 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: form its, so people know. They typically don't grade action 272 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: until after the final is complete because they don't really 273 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: have the resources and all that. But I don't want 274 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: to go into that. I do want to go into 275 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: the preseason crack because the other thing that bothers me 276 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: is you'll hear some fine folks that will go on 277 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: and say you got to be degenerate to Brett preseason 278 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite. It's the only professionalist board where 279 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: you have to two teams or one side cares if 280 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: they win and the other does. We have two key 281 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 2: games coming up this next week two coaches, John Harbaugh, 282 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: who's like forty and nineteen against the number in the 283 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: preseason against Nick Siriani who's one and seven. Then the 284 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: following day you have another couple of coaches Robert Sala 285 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: loves to win in the preseason. He's seventy percent against 286 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: his bread against Dan Quinn in Washington, who's five and 287 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: sixteen against the numbers. So you've got two key matchups 288 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: or one side the coach wants to win, and the 289 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: other side they don't really care. You don't see that 290 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: in professional sports. Talk about your philosophy and betting the preseason, you. 291 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 6: Know, I wish that we had, you know, seventeen weeks 292 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: of preseason only three weeks of the regular season. That's 293 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 6: how strong the preseason has been to me over the years. 294 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 6: And I get a charge out of when someone text 295 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 6: me and says, well, you're must be a degenerate betting 296 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 6: preseason anyway. Well, honestly, they don't know what they're talking about. 297 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 6: The preseason is all about information. It's all about social media. 298 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 6: It's all about following your socials, your coaches, your strength coaches. 299 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: You know, if it can come from anyone. It can 300 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 6: come from a coach's child, the coach's son, or someone 301 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 6: in the family related that maybe get here's something and he, 302 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 6: you know, he just you know, blurts it out on 303 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 6: Twitter or one. 304 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: Of the socials. 305 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: And it's all about what information and knowing what the 306 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 6: coaches themselves do, Like you said, the harbaws, the solos 307 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 6: knowing what they do. 308 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: And as you can see what these. 309 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: Two games you mentioned, the Baltimore Philadelphia game Baltimore laying 310 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 6: three points in that game. That's a lot of points 311 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: for anyone. By the way, preseasons are normally around pick 312 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 6: them maybe two to two and a half, very rare 313 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 6: anything goes over three. I see a couple of games 314 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 6: that are three, even a game that is four. This 315 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 6: is one of the games that is three. Baltimore they know, really, 316 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 6: so that's probably the number one team of preseason that 317 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 6: they know that their coach plays hard. So Baltimore minus 318 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 6: threw over Philadelphia, who, you're right, don't really, Sirianni's really 319 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 6: probably not going to care for that opening game. No 320 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 6: one wants to get anyone hurt. Going back to the 321 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 6: Jet game, the Jet game actually is pretty funny. It 322 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 6: opened up pick them and actually Washington took the money 323 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: Washington minus one and a half. But maybe they're just 324 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 6: thinking that, you know, after what happened last year with Rogers. 325 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 6: Obviously he's not even gonna standy club. I'm not saying that, 326 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 6: but a maybe maybe they're thinking that, maybe that Salah 327 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: will just say, you know what, I'm not getting no 328 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 6: one hurt out of my starters after what happened last 329 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 6: year or early even though it was week one of 330 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 6: the regular season. That's just a hypothesis. Now I don't 331 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 6: know the situation there, but I'm telling you how. It's 332 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: how it goes down, and how preseason football works. It's 333 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 6: all about following socials, following what the coaches say, and 334 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 6: of course what Bernie Frattle just said, knowing the position 335 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: of the coaches throughout the years and previous years. So 336 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 6: that's all three good factors to handicap the preseason. And boy, 337 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 6: oh boy, do I wish we had more preseason than 338 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 6: only three weeks. 339 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: One other quick one, Cracked. Look at the quarterback depth 340 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: chart rotations you're probably going to see in that Jets game. 341 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: To Rob Taylor play almost a half. This is a 342 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: veteran quarterback who knows how to move the ball up 343 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: and down the field against some guys next week who 344 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: might be working a nap auto parts. Nothing wrong with that, 345 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: but you look for those mismatches as well. Look at ahead. 346 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: What are some things that are top of mind as 347 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: we look toward the NFL season? 348 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 6: Crack, Well, I want to finish off with what you're 349 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 6: saying there. Last point on preseason. It's not unusual to 350 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 6: see a game where the team is favorite by one 351 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 6: for the full game, but yet Favorite by three in 352 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 6: the first half because of just that, because of a 353 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 6: a quarterback that seasons will play and you're hearing will 354 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 6: play and you probably will. So therefore the first half 355 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 6: is the stronger bet. I know myself. Next week I 356 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 6: bet just based on socials and things I have read. 357 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 6: I have bet New England where I found uh you 358 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 6: know I found. I already found the line on New 359 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 6: England first half, which is unusual here we are not 360 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: games out till next Thursday. But so situationally, if I 361 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 6: know someone's starting or if someone's not starting, I will 362 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 6: look for a first half bet just as good as 363 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 6: a game bet. It's not stronger at certain situations. Now, 364 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 6: going back to what you're saying for the for the 365 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: regular season. Wow, you know, I'm all about futures and 366 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 6: betting lots of different things going into the regular season, 367 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: and you know, I think anything with plus money on 368 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 6: season wins the day of the pre sorry, the day 369 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 6: of the first game the first week might be some 370 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: some decent takes. What I mean by that is, you 371 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 6: know there's sports books that that are forced to overmove 372 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 6: lines normally on the overs on on teams. So I 373 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 6: think anything with some plus money it might be worth 374 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 6: a second look or a look at. And what I 375 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 6: mean like here, we have a couple of sportsbooks in 376 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: town here that you can actually take under, uh you know, 377 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 6: wins that you can actually use the alternative line taking 378 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: like two to one, two and a half to one, 379 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 6: even three to one, which I have some. I have 380 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: some some some teams that I actually did take uh 381 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 6: you know, some some plus money on. I would look 382 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: towards week one situationally at week one, when week ones 383 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 6: rolling around, I'm going that Sunday morning, right before game one, 384 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 6: or that Thursday, because there's a Thursday night game and 385 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: a Friday night game this year. I would look at 386 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: those teams to see if the sports books have overmoved 387 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 6: the overs on those season wins, and maybe grab up 388 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 6: some under money on some of them. And just to 389 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: let you know, some of the ones I put under 390 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 6: money on already. I bet under on the Chargers, under 391 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 6: on the Packers, under on the Giants, so I already 392 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 6: bet these already under or I found some good edges 393 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 6: and good lines. But I'll look again late late and 394 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: just like literally right before the games hour or two 395 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: before the games. We'll be on air on Countdown to 396 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 6: Kickoff that Sunday morning, but I'll also be looking doing 397 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: the commercials to see what of the sportsbooks may be. 398 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 6: Maybe actually give you an extra you know, twenty thirty 399 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: cents on juice to try to get some TakeBack on 400 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: their season wins and bet some more. 401 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Unders crat great stuff. As always as usual, I wish 402 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: we had more time. Countdown to kick off your great 403 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: show starts up again. Win. 404 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 6: We start up again on August eighteenth, Sunday the eighteenth, 405 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 6: our first week, and. 406 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: We're going to go year round. 407 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 6: Now Countdown to kickoff, the Countdown to tip offf I. 408 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 6: I look really look forward to the preseason stuff on 409 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 6: the eighteenth. I'm sure I'll have a few things to 410 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 6: talk about before we go on. When we go on 411 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 6: air that night, there's still some games, so I really 412 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 6: appreciate it and look forward to speaking to you again, Bernie. 413 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 414 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: Out as always. We'll see you soon. Pal. That is 415 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: the legend of Bill Krackenberger, the crack Man, two other 416 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: very quick things. First year coaches in the preseason love 417 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: to win that first home game. Keep an eye on that. 418 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: That's been a moneymaker and when the regular season starts 419 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: Week one, divisional dogs, they've been about seventy three percent 420 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: the last eight years. I've gone on Jason McIntyre's podcast 421 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: the last three years, right before Week one, we've talked 422 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: about that. It seems to hit every year. This year, 423 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: I think there's only a couple. But the dogs look good, 424 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: good on both sides. Coming up, did you watch the 425 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: preseason kick out the Hall of Fame game Thursday night? 426 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Things might have looked a little different. I want to 427 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: talk about that. But first let's go to a gentleman. 428 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: Well to describe him as John and for Senda would say, 429 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: would be to drain the vocabulary of superlatives. Let's say 430 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: hello to Dan Bayer. Dan, welcome in. It's always great 431 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: to have you on Saturday night. It's great to have you, Bernie, 432 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: be with you, Bernie. 433 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 7: It's great to be alongside you and hanging out and 434 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 7: getting ready for football season. We're all kind of kind 435 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 7: of getting that itch for sure, and you're laying down 436 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 7: some really good reasons to maybe lay down some coin 437 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 7: in those preseason matchups. No preseason football to talk about here, 438 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: we do have some football news. Tyreek Hill did restructure 439 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 7: his contract with the Miami Dolphins. It's a three year 440 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 7: restructure deal. Ninety million dollars now get sixty five million 441 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: dollars guaranteed as part of that restructuring. No New Year's 442 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 7: added onto Hills deal, but a little bit more money 443 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 7: up front. At the Olympics in Paris, Saturday was amazing, 444 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: especially for the United States, who brought home eighteen medals. 445 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 7: Simone Biles one gold in the vault, Katie Ledeki another gold, 446 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 7: her gold in the eight hundred meters historic in this fashion, 447 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 7: first woman to win an event four times in all 448 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 7: Big Games in just the seventh Olympian ever to accomplish 449 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 7: that feat. She now has nine goals in her career 450 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 7: fourteen medals overall. US women's soccer team won in dramatic 451 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 7: fashion on Saturday, while the US men's basketball team no dramas. 452 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 7: They were out in Puerto Rico. But the bracket is 453 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 7: now set. US will get the top seed. They'll end 454 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 7: up facing Brazil in the quarterfinals on Tuesday. Coming up 455 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 7: on Sunday, we can look ahead to John Rahm and 456 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 7: Xander Schaffli. It's off the leader board and he found 457 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 7: a round of men's golf, they are going for the gold. 458 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 2: Others is well in contention. 459 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 7: But at Shafley and ram right now at fourteen hunder 460 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 7: par gold metal match Novak Djokovic against Carlos Salkarez. 461 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: That should be good. 462 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 7: In US women's basketball team wraps up pool play taking 463 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: on Germany at eleven o'clock Eastern time. Jack Flerty went 464 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: seven innings, struck out seven, and allowed five hits in 465 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 7: zero earned runs as the Dodgers beat the Aist had 466 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 7: nothing in Flarity's debut for the Blue sho Heyo Toni 467 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 7: three steels joining the thirty thirty Club, Padres got past. 468 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: The Rockies three to two. 469 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 7: Mets well, they fell to the Angel spot for Meritors 470 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 7: rally and pick up a six to five win against 471 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 7: the Phillies in ten And I know our technical producer 472 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 7: Mark Ramsey probably doesn't want to hear this. 473 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: The White Sox have lost. 474 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 7: There at nineteenth straight, falling to the Twins on Saturday 475 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 7: six to two. Bud Crawford wins the unanimous decision to 476 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 7: claim the WBA Junior Middleway to title. 477 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 2: Bernie back to you, okay, Bud, good stuff Dan as always, 478 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: Hey folks, did you watch the Hall of Fame game 479 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: Thursday night, you saw a distinctive difference. Hold that thought. 480 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to it in a big way. 481 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: But I want to draw an analogy. Years ago, Tim 482 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: Russert was interviewing Whitey Ford and Yogi Bearra, and Russer 483 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: looked at Ford and said, Whitey, can you tell me 484 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 2: your favorite Yogi Bearra story? And Whitey said, that's easy. 485 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: We call it the four ball story. Took place back 486 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: in the day where I was pitching against the White Sox, 487 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: and first pitch of the game, Louis Aparicio, Hall of 488 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: Famer Louisi Aparicio dumped the perfect bunt for a base hit. 489 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: Up comes Nelly Fox. First pitch doubles off the wall. 490 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: Two pitches, two hitters, men on second and third. Nobody out. 491 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: Al Smith, the third hitter digs in white. He snaps 492 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: off a curveball hits him in the knee. Al Smith 493 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: takes first base. Three hitters, three pitches, bases loaded, nobody out. 494 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: Up comes Ted Klezuski with those big guns. First pitch 495 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: fastball deposits it four hundred and sixty feet into the 496 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: center field bleachers. Four pitches, four hitters four nothing nobody out. 497 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: Yankees manager Casey Stinkle comes out to the mound livid. 498 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: He looks at Whitey, He looks at Yogi. He looks 499 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: back at Whitey. He looks back at Yogi. Says, Yogi, 500 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: what the hell's going on around here? Does Whitey have 501 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: anything tonight? Yogi goes, how the heck do I know? 502 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: I haven't caught a single pitch yet. Take a look 503 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: at that kickoff. Everybody was nonplus about what is this? Yeah? 504 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: I get it. It looks weird. It's a radical change. 505 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: The changes were made in hopes of limiting the high 506 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: speed collisions, but also trying to incentivize teams to return 507 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: the ball more. You know, last year seventy eight percent 508 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: of all kickoffs were touchbacks. That doesn't it make for 509 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: exciting kickoff? And just a few years before that eighty 510 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: percent were returned, and just the year before last year 511 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: almost forty percent were returned, so it's dramatically down. As 512 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there were only four kickoffs returned 513 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: for touchdowns the entire season in twenty twenty three, but 514 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: Thursday Night Thursday Night, of the eight kickoffs, seven were 515 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: actually at least return Now give special teams coordinators time 516 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: to figure this out. They don't know what the best 517 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: strategy is, and let's be honest. Thursday night's game was 518 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: played by a bunch of well intentioned finance athletes that 519 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: will most likely be working in NAPA Auto Parts in 520 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: about a month. Muhing wrong with that. Good clean work, 521 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: good Christian values, But they're probably not NFL players. So 522 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: what do you expect the special team coaches to do. 523 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: You've got coverage players. They can't move until the ball 524 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: hits the ground or a returner catches it in the 525 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: landing zone, so hangtime is no longer a key factor. 526 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: And kicks and kicks it hit the ground on the 527 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: landing zone and get into the end zone. Well, that'll 528 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: be ideal since those touchbacks only give the return team 529 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: the ball to twenty. But the danger will be that 530 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: if you kick it into the end zone, the return 531 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: team is going to get the ball to forty. So 532 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: look for returners. As this thing starts to evolve, the 533 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: play might look a little bit more like a traditional 534 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: running player than the old kickoff return. So I'm wondering 535 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: a couple of things. Might we see more running backs 536 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: as returners, so you can capitalize on their ability to 537 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: find a hole better than some of these returners or 538 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: receivers or bigger guys that you know are just special teams guys. 539 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, special teams are very important, very 540 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: important in football, even in high school football. They're played 541 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: football past high school. But you want to make a team, 542 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: you want to impress a coach, blow somebody up on 543 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: special teams. I never want to kickoff to go away 544 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: after they got to figure this out once and for all, 545 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: and this is only a one year experiment, but I'm 546 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, in their efforts to overhaul the kickoff to 547 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: revive a player that used to have a lot of excitement. 548 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: I hope it works. I hope they find a happy medium. 549 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: Ashtuell Davis if if special teams is important, the Denver 550 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: Broncos are playing a game in Japan. He was going nowhere. 551 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: It was all set to get cut. Didn't even want 552 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: to suit up that night. Tried to call the airlines 553 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: to catch a flight home early, couldn't get one suits up. 554 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: He's on the sidelines. They put him into the third quarter. 555 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: He blew up a guy on special teams. The rest 556 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: is history. Ryan Clark will tell you the same story. 557 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: So give this a chance to work. Now, the standard 558 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: kicks are still going to begin from the thirty five, 559 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: but everything else looks radically different. Honestly, I knew this 560 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: was coming. And when I looked at the screen and say, whoa, whoa, 561 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: you got ten kick coverage players that are lining up 562 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: twenty five yards away at the opposing team's forty. You 563 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: have five on each side of the field. Then the 564 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: return team, they've got nine blockers lined up what's called 565 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: the setup zone between the thirty and thirty five yard line, 566 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: But at least seven of those players have to touch 567 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: the thirty five yard line, so you could have up 568 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: to two returners. They have to line up inside the twenty, 569 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: so before the ball is actually kicked, only the kicker 570 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: and the two returners are allowed to move around until 571 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: the ball hits the ground or is touched or caught 572 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: by returner inside the twenty. And as I said, any 573 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: kick that reaches the end zone in the air can 574 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: be returned or the receiving team can offer a touchback 575 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: and take possession at the thirty. The bottom line, let's 576 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: give this a chance to work. Coming up, guess who 577 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: turned forty seven today and he hasn't ruled out a comeback. 578 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: Do we think it's gonna happen? No? But can you 579 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: rule it out? No? I'm Bernie Fraddle. Where coming your 580 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot com studios. 581 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: Keep it locked The Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 582 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 583 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 584 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the tyrack dot 585 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas, just getting started. We've 586 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: got a massive show tonight. If we got some Olympic 587 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: stuff to get to in about thirteen minutes. Top of 588 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: the hour, Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night, midnight 589 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Pacific on The Bernie Fratto Show. Melt Tucker remember how 590 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: he was unceremoniously fired as Michigan State's football coach. US 591 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: last year major lawsuit on the horizon got a quick 592 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: upcap recap later of a couple of teams in the 593 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball trade deadline updates that I think are 594 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: very significant. Don't forget. In the final hour, we've got 595 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: what kind of brand new fool you? Followed by what 596 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: my name? I'm going to take a quick look at 597 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: this Canadian soccer cheating scandal, preview a couple of NFL divisions. 598 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: By the way, my good buddy Andy Furman's going to 599 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: join us in the final segment of the show. I 600 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: don't know if you've got a chance to see the 601 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: Pete Rose documentary. It's terrific that I maybe learn anything, No, 602 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: but it brings you back down memory lane and reminds 603 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: us of the complex nature of Pete Rose, who's now 604 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: eighty three years young. But as we look to football, 605 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, I'm going to get to it 606 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: a second. Yeah, I guess who turned forty seven today? 607 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: Well was August third when I signed down. It's still 608 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: August third here in Las Vegas at eleven forty eight pm. 609 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: He turned forty seven to I'm going to get to 610 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: that in a minute. Two other quick things. When the 611 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Texans played the Bears Thursday night, the Bears were catching 612 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: two points, and if you like to bet preseason, for 613 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: what it's worth, history tells us that underdogs that close 614 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: plus two or shorter with the line that opened up 615 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: inside of three, as was the case between the Bears 616 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: and Texans, and the final score ended up being twenty 617 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: one to seventeen Bears. There are some books that paid 618 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: the bets, some didn't. The underdog that's getting two points 619 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: or less covers about sixty four percent of the time, 620 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: and that goes back to twenty twelve and then covered 621 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: by two point two points per game. Well, the Bears 622 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: did exactly that. They covered by four actually more than that, 623 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: for what it's worth. By the way, the Bears were 624 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: five to one against the spread under Matt Eberflus. He 625 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: likes to win preseason games. So just the thought, as 626 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: you see these short lines, more often than not, the 627 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: dog is the value. Something else fascinated as we look 628 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: end of the season this year and all the storylines, 629 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: not the least of which he's going to be Aaron 630 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: Rodgers in the New York Jets and that whole gosh 631 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: darn soap opera. Their first practice and pads went very 632 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: poorly on Monday, at least in the eyes of Aaron Rodgers. 633 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: He was not afraid to let his teammates know it. 634 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: He was visibly upset, and it might not have played 635 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: so well because people were not happy that he decided 636 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: to go to Egypt instead of Mini Camp and I 637 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: understand he bought the ticket and it was paid for 638 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: and he had it all planned. You know, when he 639 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: got three hundred million in the bank or whatever you've made, 640 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: I think you can maybe pay the change fees. Wasn't 641 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 2: a good look. I covered the Lions for ten years. 642 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: Mini camp's important. It's very important, and even preseasons important. 643 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: I hear people minimizing it. If you don't think preseason 644 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: is important, you haven't covered an NFL team. I realized 645 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: there's only about two roster spots that are open. But 646 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: let me tell you position coaches that like to track 647 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: the progress of their first, second, and third round draft 648 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: choices from year to year. You do that in live 649 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: bullets against an opponent with real referees and when they 650 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: keep it score as opposed to a scrimmage. The second 651 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: thing is coaches like to decide position battles a lot 652 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: of times in preseason during a live game. Just sharing, 653 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: by the way, one other thing will a lot of 654 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: talk about Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. I would listen. 655 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: I think Led Zeppel will re record the Gilligan Z 656 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: Island theme song and Cela million copies before Justin Fields 657 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: will start in front of Russell Wilson. It's not gonna happen. 658 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: We'll go into that later. You know, I like justin fields. 659 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: The problem is you can't read a defense. His recognition's poor. 660 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: He takes too long to get rid of the ball 661 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: and he's not accurate. And that's why he's ten and 662 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: thirty eight. Now you know he let's I do like 663 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: the guy, though he conducts himself like a pro. Here's 664 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: an interesting factoid. You can impress your friends around the 665 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 2: water cooler. Remarkably, if Russell Wilson starts Week two against 666 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: his former team, the Denver Broncos, Russell Wilson would be 667 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: playing against the team. He'll be the first player in 668 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: history to face an opponent or the opponent is paying 669 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: for eighty seven percent of his salary. Put that your 670 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: pipe and smoke it. So mark the calendar for week two. 671 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 2: The Steelers visit Denver, and Denver will be paying eighty 672 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: seven percent of his salary to compete against them. All right, 673 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: there's a mouthful. We're all excited. Football's here. Come on, 674 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: let's face it. Earlier this year, Tom Brady kicked the 675 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: door open, kept the door open, then shut the door 676 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: on possibly Okay. Again, the operative word here is possibly 677 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: for those who selectively listen returning to the NFL during 678 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season. He has yet to completely 679 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: say no, not no, hell no, not up in here. No, 680 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: he hasn't said that. Tom Brady turned forty seven years 681 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: old today August third, believe it or not. If Brady 682 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: were to come back for any reason, and do I 683 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen, No, But would I make it 684 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: a zero. No. He'd be the third person to play 685 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: NFL football at age forty seven, but he'd be the 686 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: first quarterback to play at that age. Now, people I 687 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: talk do say if he had to, he still could. 688 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: His arm is still strong. It's going to be strong 689 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: till he's fifty. As far as mobility, yeah, you can 690 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: say Brady's lost mobility, but he never had any. I 691 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: covered him at Michigan. He didn't have any there, and 692 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: he was brilliant, brilliant even if he was behind Brian Greasy. 693 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 2: He would pick apart the first team defense that went 694 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: undefeated in nineteen ninety seven. But even then he had 695 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: the mobility of an upright vacuum cleaner. But the truth 696 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: of the matter is as his career went on, Brady 697 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: had perfected the yard of sensing a collapsing pocket. He 698 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: gets the ball out of his hands so quick before 699 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: he gets blown up. He frustrates teams every day, all day. 700 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: That's why he went to so many Super Bowls and 701 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 2: won so many. Now we all know Tom Brady will 702 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: start working for Fox this year. Got a plumb game 703 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: week on the Cowboys visit Cleveland and that coveted four 704 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: pm Eastern game that he always gets very high ratings. Okay, 705 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 2: but I believe Tom Brady will follow current quarterback play 706 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: closely because if he decides to come back, he'll be 707 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: more inclined to come back once he sees what current 708 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: players are doing and if he realizes he could do better. 709 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 2: Where would he fit well. Charlie Weiss once said that 710 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 2: if he were with a forty nine ers this year, 711 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Brady would be a top five quarterback. I know the 712 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: Niners don't need him, but last year they were interested, 713 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: and I hope I'm rooting for Brock Purdy. But if 714 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: a quarterback goes down, will Brady's phone ring? It's going 715 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: to depend the backup and the situation and other options. 716 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: And it also hinges on the willingness of a team 717 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 2: to bring him in and let him play right away. 718 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: Is it possible? Yeah? Is it likely? I don't think so, 719 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 2: but it's fun to talk about and Brady hasn't shut 720 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 2: the door yet. Coming up, Mark Medina, Medina Magic. You're 721 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: listening to Theernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Keep 722 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: it locked. 723 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 724 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Frattle Show keeps 725 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are 726 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 2: coming to your line from tyreck dot com studios here 727 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Tyreq dot com will 728 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: help you get there done. Match selection, fast, free shipping, 729 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: free road, AZRA protection and over ten thousand recommended in 730 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: stallers tyreck dot com. The way tire buying should be. 731 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: The US on their way to the metal round. What 732 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: a shock. But every Saturday night at midnight, fifty two 733 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 2: weeks out of the year, there's always news. Three simple words, 734 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: It's that time. Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru, 735 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Mark, how are you, Bernie? 736 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 8: I'm doing well. Hey, I have a question for you. 737 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 8: HASUSA entertain need this past week with its basketball performances. 738 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: Well, it has been boring, but it was very much expected. 739 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: When we signed off last week, I said they'd be three. 740 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't predict they'd have a sixty one 741 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: point margin. But I've said all along, no one's beating 742 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: his team. They're too deep, they're two athletic. They have 743 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: the best running jump athletes in the world. Let's look ahead. 744 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: Because I also tongue in cheek a couple of weeks ago, 745 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: but it really wasn't tongue in cheek. I thought Steve 746 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 2: Kerb might deserve a raise, and he wanted to lock 747 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: down the number one seed. And as you can see 748 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: the remaining teams in the field, the US is going 749 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: to benefit from that. Shouldn't Steve Kerb be getting a 750 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: little bit more flowers than he's getting. 751 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 8: Oh, it's out of doubt. But look, you know, I 752 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 8: think whether it's Steve Kerr or any of the players, 753 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 8: they're only going to be evaluated if they fail, not 754 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 8: if they succeed, because the expectations that they win what 755 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 8: would be their fifth consecutive gold medal. But I think 756 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,959 Speaker 8: that yere onto something that that's not so simple. As well, 757 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 8: you have twelve Hall of fame on your roster. Anyone 758 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 8: can do it. I think, on one hand, yes, you 759 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 8: necessarily can't go wrong with any rotation, starting lineup and 760 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 8: lineup combination. So that's why I thought the early criticism 761 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 8: of Steve Kerr was a little much. But I think 762 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 8: at the same time, you have to manage personalities, you 763 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 8: have to find the right matchups, and I think that 764 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 8: he's been able to do that. He's been very flexible 765 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 8: with changing, you know, lineups depending on matchups and also 766 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 8: just trying to keep the team engaged. And we've seen 767 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 8: a much different product than what we saw in the exhibition, 768 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 8: where you know, there's a lot more continuity, a lot 769 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 8: more chemistry, and again talent prevails. But this team is 770 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 8: put up in a microwave and expected to be a 771 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 8: gourmet meal just because it has good ingredients, and that 772 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 8: doesn't always happen. 773 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's very true, and I do agree that they 774 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: certainly look much better now there's been better balls distribution 775 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: and as it were, I agree with that. So let's 776 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: look ahead to their opponent Tuesday, Brazil. They shot the 777 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 2: heck out of the ball against Japan, but come on, 778 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: they're led by a forty one year old point guard 779 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: and they. 780 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 8: Have ale of it. 781 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's got to call it as I see it. 782 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: I just can't see the US losing to Brazil. You've 783 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: been pretty fair and objective about this, though. Give me 784 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 2: a scenario where Brazil upsets the US. 785 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 8: Oh, let's see the scenario as we hear some news 786 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 8: about a tournament ending injury to Lebron James, Kevin Durant 787 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 8: and Steph Curry. I don't think that's gonna happen. So 788 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 8: there's no scenario that the US loses to Brazil. 789 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: Well one, there's one actually, if the team contracts malaria then. 790 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 8: Okay, so there's two unlikely scenarios, right. I think they're 791 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 8: gonna win Tuesday, regardless of whether it's you know, a 792 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 8: blowout win or a close wind beautiful ugly. I think, 793 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 8: you know, the questions moving forward is really in the 794 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 8: gold medal game, whether it's Germany or Canada. Can they 795 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 8: survive those two teams? 796 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: They're really hold that fut before we get to that, Okay, 797 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: because let's take it a step at a time. Because 798 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 2: let's assume that the US advances past Brazil, they would 799 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: play the winner of Australia Serbia now they've already beaten 800 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: Serbia by twenty points twice this year. Okay, Australia is 801 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: a nice looking club. They're not beating Australia. I could 802 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: either one of those teams upset the US. Could you 803 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 2: see that scenario? 804 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 8: No, Serbia only has Nikoleoka. Australia has a better chance 805 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 8: because they have more NBA talent. You look at players 806 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 8: like Josh Giddy and Dante Exam, Dythan Daniels. These are 807 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 8: legitimate rotation players, but again doesn't match up with players 808 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 8: like Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and their amazing bench. 809 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 8: So yeah, it's really going to come down to cam 810 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 8: out of Germany, and I don't think. I don't think again, 811 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 8: barring serious injury, that that's going to happen. But I 812 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 8: think they can at least give them good tests where 813 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 8: it's competitive. There could be similar to what we saw 814 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 8: in twenty eight and twenty twelve with Spain against the US. 815 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 8: Legitimate team, a lot of good continuity, a lot of 816 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 8: good NBA talent, so make for a competitive matchup, but 817 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 8: the US will prevail well. 818 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: Germany was second to the US in terms of point 819 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: differential at plus forty seven. And to your point, through 820 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: the other two undefeated teams in pool play, they're on 821 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 2: the other side of the bracket, which means the US 822 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: only has to be one of them to win the goal. 823 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 2: That's why I give kur Al out of credit. He 824 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: wanted a lockdown the number one seed and this is 825 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: how they benefit. So I think last week, and I'm 826 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: in agreement with you, you're frankly, you're expecting candidate to 827 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 2: advance to the final game. Is that fair? 828 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I without a doubt because you go to Alexanderson 829 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 8: playing at an MVP level. RJ Barracks, I think has 830 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 8: really taken his to another level, being able to be 831 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 8: physical and aggressive. Dylan Brooks he's an efficient shooter and 832 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 8: a great defender at least in these games. And Lou 833 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 8: Dort is another physical defender. So I think those four 834 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 8: players have been so effective that even Jamal Murray not 835 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 8: playing as best, it hasn't really mattered. 836 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's not forget Canada beat the US last year. 837 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: So if we fast forward to this and the game 838 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: will have been played by the time we get to 839 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: this segment next Saturday night, what is a potential scenario 840 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 2: where Canada could beat the US. I think that's these 841 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: two teams played ten times. The US beats him nine, 842 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 2: maybe nine and a half. But it could happen. Okay, 843 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: it could happen. I think it's the only team in 844 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 2: the tournament because what the Canada has, what eleven NBA 845 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: players may have good ones. 846 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, they have a perimeter orient in lineup. So the 847 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 8: scenario that Canada beats the US, so they get really 848 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 8: hot from three, I think because it's a perimeter orient 849 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 8: in lineup, I don't think Joelmbiat will play a lot 850 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 8: of minutes. I think Temiosi could go small, but I 851 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 8: think that even presuming they do that, if Canada catches 852 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 8: lighting in a bottle and just goes lights down from deep, 853 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 8: then it could be over. But again, the US has 854 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 8: a lot of continuity, and even with how dominant their 855 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 8: starting lineup is, their bench is even arguably greater because 856 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 8: they have Kevin Durant coming off the bench, even though 857 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 8: he's tmosa's all time lying score, but because of his injury, 858 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 8: they've decided it's better to manage his workload that way. 859 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 8: Anthony Edwards, as we saw against Puerto Rico, today, he's 860 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 8: been a really dynamic score. But then when you look 861 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 8: at the starting lineup, you know it starts with Lebron James. 862 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 8: But even Steph Curry not making shots, he's a great 863 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 8: four spacer, great playmaker. Devin Booker is all of a 864 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 8: sudden the defensive special. It's when Drew Holliday presumably comes back. 865 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 8: He's another two way player. And Anthony Davis has been 866 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 8: the Anthony Davis that we saw in the bubble when 867 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 8: the Lakers won the championships. So there's just a lot 868 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 8: of good pieces. I should also throw Bam out out 869 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 8: of Bio out there as far as what he's provided 870 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 8: as a mobile big man in the second unit. So 871 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 8: they just have a lot of unstoppable weapons across the board. 872 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: One last thing about Steve Kerr. I hesitated to bring 873 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: this up, but I'm going to. Folks had raised an 874 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 2: eyebrow when Jason Tatum didn't play and then the situation 875 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: with Joel Embiid. But I think what Kerr has done 876 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: is makes sense to the fact that he's putting guys 877 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: in their usual roles as he sees the matchups evolved. Now, 878 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: most of the consternation was outside the Avery Tower tickets 879 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 2: inside the Averay Tower Mark. I can't imagine that we 880 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: were any disgruntled players. Was too much made of that. 881 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't recall Jason Tatum say anything. I know Jalen 882 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 2: Brown won't shut up, but Jason Tatum seems to have 883 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: handled quite well. 884 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 885 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 8: Well, Jason Tatum, he said it was a humbling experience. 886 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 8: I mean, he won a championship, he got, you know, 887 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 8: a max extension, he was on the cover of Sports 888 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 8: Illustrated cover on the NBA two K video game. I mean, 889 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 8: so it's not like he was thrilled with getting a 890 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 8: help for DMP, but he knows what he was signing 891 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 8: up for. It's the Olympics, and you know, it's not 892 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 8: like he's getting benched in favor of, you know, guys 893 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 8: that aren't at the same level as him. And even 894 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 8: though Derek White, who's on the Celtics and obviously isn't 895 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 8: in the same pecking order as Jason Tatum, I think 896 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 8: just illustrates that the US Olympic team is not an 897 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 8: all star team. It's about managing combinations. And I think 898 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 8: Steve Kerr said really well that it's not a matter 899 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 8: of putting the best five scores in your starting lineup, 900 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 8: because then they don't coexist. Well, it's about finding the 901 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 8: right chemistry pieces. So with all that said, I was 902 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 8: surprised that Jason Tatum came back in the starting lineup 903 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 8: only because it came at the expense of Drew Holliday. 904 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 8: But I think one it was a way to just 905 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 8: keep everyone engaged. And two, you know, they were cognizant 906 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 8: that South Sudan plays at a fast tempo and so 907 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 8: they wanted to react accordingly, most notably with having Anthony 908 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 8: Davis star instead of Joe Indeed, so I think the 909 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 8: fact that they made a change at the center spot, 910 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 8: it made a little easier for Steve Kerr to make 911 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 8: another spot change in the starting lineup with Jayson Tatum's 912 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 8: out Drew Holliday. But I think it's really about matchups 913 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 8: and then just trying to give guys a chance to 914 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 8: play because it is the Olympics and at that point 915 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 8: it was just group play. But I think moving forward, 916 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 8: you know, Drew Holidays expected to be back from his 917 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 8: ankle injury and he'll have that starring lineup spot for 918 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 8: a good moving forward. 919 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Medina Medina Magic Our Fox, Sports Radio 920 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 2: NBA guru. You hear him every Saturday night. It had been 921 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: that Pacific time here on the Bernie Fradis Show, and 922 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: you are right. Jason Tatum said not playing was humbling, 923 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: but he also said he wouldn't hold a grudge. Yeah, 924 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 2: give it up to Drew Holiday, who's not complained about 925 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: being in out of the lineup. And let's also not 926 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: forget Kevin Durant, the all time leading scorer and rebound 927 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: on the history of men's Olympics, is not only coming 928 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 2: off the bench. He says he's fine coming off the bench. 929 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 2: So got to give credit where credit easy. Yeah. 930 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, And Bernie, I would add, he's just not saying 931 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 8: he's fine with it. He was praising Steve Kerr for 932 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 8: how he's managing the rotations. And I think that I 933 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 8: didn't have this in one bingo card that Kevin Durant 934 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 8: would be coming off the bench. I thought it was 935 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 8: a definitive that Lebron Steph and Durant were starting. But 936 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 8: it makes sense because he's coming off the injury. They 937 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,959 Speaker 8: want to manage that workload. But I think it's also 938 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 8: about he's such an efficient score that gives them such 939 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 8: a unique weapon that's very unstoppable, and again he would 940 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 8: provide the same thing in the starting lineup. But because 941 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 8: they have Lebron James and Anthony Davis or Joel Embiid 942 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 8: handling a lot of scoring punch and Steph Curry presuming 943 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 8: his shooting slump goes away, they don't need that scoring 944 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 8: as much as they would with the second unit because 945 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 8: the second unit obviously doesn't have as much of scoring talent. 946 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: Interesting story coming out of Los Angeles involving Kobe Bryant. 947 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: When the Staples Center did their renovation in twenty eighteen, 948 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: a maintenance worker decided to save Kobe Bryant's locker from demolition. 949 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 2: He kept it intact sold to a private collector. It 950 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 2: was auctioned off at Sofies the other day for two 951 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 2: point nine million dollars. Kobe's locker. Your thoughts on that story. 952 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 8: Well, it's not surprising, I mean, anything involving Kobe Bryant 953 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 8: will have a lot of interest in the market because 954 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 8: of what he mentioned the Lakers. Obviously there's, you know, 955 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 8: the tragedy component to him not being here for the 956 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 8: last four years. So it's not surprising that his locker 957 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 8: would sell for that amount of money. I think what's 958 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 8: surprising is that it hasn't been kept and retained, but 959 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 8: you know, it is what it is, and at least 960 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 8: a portion of those sales proceeds are actually going to 961 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 8: help the Lakers Youth Foundation final thing. 962 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 2: And I know you're a busy guy, but you get around. 963 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: There was a statue depicting Kobe Bryant and his daughter. 964 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: It was unveiled in a ceremony Friday outside of Crypto Arena. 965 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: I know you attended the ceremony back in February. Were 966 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: you able to attend that statue ceremony as well? 967 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 8: It was a private ceremony, you know, per Vanessa's wishes. 968 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 8: That was much different than it was when the Lakers 969 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 8: unveiled Kobe's number eight jersey during last season in March. 970 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 8: But it's a beautiful statue. It shows, you know, Kobe 971 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 8: and Gianna. And the image of that was when he 972 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 8: was at a Lakers regular season game against the Dallas 973 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 8: Mavericks in late December of twenty nineteen. That was his 974 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 8: last public appearance at a Laker game before his trategy 975 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 8: less than a month later. And it was just really 976 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 8: surreal because I was at that game, and I remember 977 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 8: catching up with him because we were going to link 978 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 8: up for an interview about you know, just life after 979 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 8: basketball and what he was doing post NBA career with 980 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 8: all his different projects. So, you know, we had that interview. 981 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 8: But you know, all these different moments of his just 982 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 8: brings a lot of you know, obviously some some nostalgic feelings, 983 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,479 Speaker 8: but also some wistful reminders of the tragedy four years ago. 984 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 2: Mark, great stuff as always. Next Saturday night, the Olympics 985 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: will be a FATA complete. We'll see what the final is. 986 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say USA beats Canada, not exactly going on 987 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,919 Speaker 2: on a limit, and we'll look forward to hearing from 988 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 2: you as perhaps you are. You know, are there any 989 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: other deals lurking in the weeds between now and the 990 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: start of the season, And I want to get your 991 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 2: thoughts on this rookie class. There are some varying opinions, 992 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 2: including Alex Aar. 993 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 8: Wows good, Well TVSA doesn't entertaining this week at least 994 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 8: next week's segment. 995 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: Well that's right, my friend, That's all that matters. That 996 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: is Mark Medina, Medina Magic every Saturday night here on 997 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: The Bernie Friders Show. At twelve midnight Pacific time. Hey, 998 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 2: by the way, our thanks to Rapid Radios, the official 999 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 2: communication device at Fox Sports Radio. Rapid Radios are instant 1000 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 2: pushed to talk walkie talkies, offering national LTE coverage and 1001 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: no subscription or monthly fee. Business owners can keep in 1002 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: touch with up to two hundred staff at one time, 1003 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: and it's a great alternative to a mobile phone for 1004 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 2: your kids. Code to Rapid Radios dot com now for 1005 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 2: sixty percent off and free shipping. Add Code Radio and 1006 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 2: get an extra five percent off Coming up. The trade 1007 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: deadline has come and gone, but there are two teams 1008 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: that I know Major League Baseball would dearly love to 1009 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: see in the World Series facing off each other against 1010 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 2: each other. They haven't done it since nineteen eighty one. 1011 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 2: One I believe made the best overall trade at the 1012 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: deadline right at the buzzer. The other, well, at least 1013 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 2: so far, seem to linked in their lineup and add 1014 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 2: some speed and athleticism which they needed. We'll get to 1015 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 2: that coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are company live 1016 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirect dot com studios. 1017 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to The Bernie 1018 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: Fratter Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on 1019 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Comedy Live from 1020 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 2: the Tirak dot Com studios here in a Las Vegas. 1021 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 2: Take it to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. The 1022 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 2: trade deadline for Major League Baseball has come and gone. 1023 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 2: You may have noticed Jack flaherity six excellent innings in 1024 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 2: Oakland tonight in front a thirty five thousand fans. That's 1025 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: like a good month for that stadium. Struck out seven, 1026 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 2: walked one and was the type of dominant force that 1027 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are going to need down the stretch. The Dodgers, 1028 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 2: I believe, ended up with the best overall trade of 1029 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 2: the entire deadline, and it was right at the buzzer 1030 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 2: when they managed to acquire Jack Flaherty from the Tigers 1031 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 2: for really not a lot in return. I think the 1032 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,879 Speaker 2: Yankees got cold feet at the end because Flarity had 1033 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 2: been on the injured list and there were some questions, 1034 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 2: but the Dodgers took a chance. In so far after 1035 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 2: one game, it's working out because Flarity he's been pitching 1036 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 2: like he did back in twenty nineteen when he finished 1037 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,760 Speaker 2: fourth in the National League Sale Young Award voting. Now, 1038 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays ironically got more for Usa Kakuchi from 1039 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: the Astros than the Tigers got for Flarity from the Dodgers. Well, 1040 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 2: maybe the Tigers know something I don't know, but I 1041 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 2: think Flarity could be he could turn out to be 1042 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 2: the best starting pitcher traded at the deadline. And I 1043 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 2: also think the Dodgers deserve some credit for landing another 1044 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 2: power reliever in Michael Kopek. And they actually, you know, 1045 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 2: did improve their roster depth. They got Tommy Edmund Ahmed Rosario. 1046 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: They can both play multiple positions. Edmond can start at 1047 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 2: second base, er in centerfield. He has thirteen home runs 1048 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 2: and he's a base stealer. He hasn't played this year 1049 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: because of injuries. But look, you hear Jason Stewart every day, 1050 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 2: and I love Jason. I respect him very honest. Andrew 1051 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 2: Friedman's done a great job in the regular season, but 1052 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to the postseason, they might be happier 1053 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 2: with Kinky Friedman. God rest his soul. But here's the 1054 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 2: bottom line. The Dodgers are poised to win this year 1055 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 2: like they are every year, So there are genuine, genuine 1056 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 2: expectations and I think it would be fabulous for baseball 1057 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: to see the number two market against the number one market. 1058 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 2: That would mean that the New York Yankees have to 1059 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 2: find a way to limp across the finish line and 1060 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: have success in October. Can they do it? I don't know. 1061 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. The Yankees they went into the trade 1062 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: deadline needing to add depth in their lineup. It was 1063 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 2: too top heavy. Not only that, they needed to add 1064 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 2: some spark and excitement and speed and athleticism. They did 1065 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 2: all those things. They got Jazz Chisholm. He's a power 1066 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,959 Speaker 2: hitter if he pulls the ball, which is a great 1067 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 2: fit for Yankee Stadium with the short porch. Put him 1068 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 2: in that clubhouse. He has a big personality. He's gonna 1069 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 2: fit right in with Aaron Judge and Juan Soto, and 1070 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: I think he's a professional. It's going to be an 1071 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 2: influence in that locker. He's only twenty six years old. Well, 1072 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. Chisholm may be really starting into 1073 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 2: his prime years. He could develop into an All Star 1074 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 2: year after year after year. And give Aaron Boone credit 1075 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 2: because he put Chisholm with third base, even though he'd 1076 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: never played the position in the big leagues, but after 1077 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: making a couple of seamless plays in his opening night, 1078 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 2: it looks like that might even be the best spot 1079 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 2: for Chisholm. He was a shortstop, so if you are 1080 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 2: athletic enough and have the hands and the fluidity and 1081 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 2: the habits to be a major league shortstop, you can 1082 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: move to third base. He was a shortstop, so you 1083 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 2: keep him on the left side of the infield. It's 1084 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: not like he's a fish out of water, not by 1085 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: a long shot. I know that the scouts regard him 1086 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 2: as a below average defender at shortstop and even in 1087 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 2: center field, but if you put him at third base 1088 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 2: in a corner position like that, he could be seen 1089 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 2: as a plus defender. And by the way, the Yankees 1090 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 2: also bolstered their bullpen. They got Mark Letter Junior, who 1091 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 2: hasn't allowed a hit or a run in his past 1092 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 2: seven appearances, and he was traded so at the trade deadline. 1093 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 2: I think you have to give your flowers to both 1094 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Dodgers. But there's a long way 1095 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: to go. But both teams made themselves better. Might that 1096 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: lead to a postseason showdown of the likes we enjoyed 1097 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty one during the strike shortened season, when 1098 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 2: the Dodgers got their come up against the Yankees after 1099 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 2: the Yankees had beatn the Dodgers twice in seventy seven 1100 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and seventy eight. Those were epic series. It would be 1101 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 2: at epic series if it was New York in La. 1102 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 2: Do I think it's gonna happen. I think it's got 1103 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 2: less well less than a fifty percent chance. But you know, 1104 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 2: nobody had the Arizona Diamondbacks in the World Series last year, eater, 1105 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 2: so anything can happen. That's the beauty of baseball. You 1106 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 2: learn to expect the unexpected. 1107 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Hell. 1108 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Bob Ucker once hit a home run off Sandy Koefax 1109 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 2: coming up. A Big ten football coach who got out 1110 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 2: of the gate quick by beating Michigan in back to 1111 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,479 Speaker 2: back years, which put him on the on the mount. 1112 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Rushmore of Michigan state coaches, is now suing his former employer. 1113 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up. The first. Let's go 1114 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 2: back to our guy, the Dulce Tones with the great 1115 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Dan Byer. Thanks Bernie. 1116 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 7: The Dodgers got back on the winning track on Saturday 1117 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 7: night with a ten to nothing win against the Oakland 1118 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 7: A's shohe Otani kind of stealing the show three stolen bases, 1119 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 7: joins the thirty thirty club and Jack Flaherty six innings 1120 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 7: of work, seven strikeouts, allowing just five hits and zero 1121 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 7: earned runs in his Dodgers debut. Dodgers still four and 1122 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 7: a half games up on the Padres. In the nl WES, 1123 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 7: San Diego got past the Rockies three to two, Angels, 1124 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 7: were five to four victors against the Mets Mariners rally 1125 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 7: and get a six to five victory against the Phillies 1126 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 7: that was in ten innings, and baseball's longest losing streak 1127 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 7: continues now nineteen games for the White Sox. Twins beat 1128 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 7: him on Saturday, six to two. Sunday action already underway 1129 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 7: in Paris at the Olympic Games Men's golf final round 1130 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 7: play already underway. The leaders will tee off at six 1131 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 7: thirty nine Eastern time this morning. In the final group, 1132 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 7: it'll be Spain's John Rahm, American Xander Schoffley who's at 1133 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 7: fourteen under par with Ram and Tommy Fleetwood of Great 1134 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 7: Britain at thirteen under. They will be in that final group. 1135 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 7: Scotty Sheffler and Rory McElroy will enter the day four 1136 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 7: shots back of the lead at ten under par. Currently 1137 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 7: in a tie for sixth men's gold medal. Tennis match 1138 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 7: has Novak Djokovic going up against Carlos Salkarez. US women's 1139 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 7: basketball team in action today facing Germany. Little tip off 1140 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 7: at eleven o'clock Eastern time this morning, and if you 1141 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,919 Speaker 7: love the medal count, US is way ahead of everyone else. 1142 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 7: In fact, sixty one medals right now for the Americans 1143 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 7: after a whopping eighteen on Saturday puts them twenty ahead 1144 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 7: of France. The Americans, though still trail China in the 1145 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 7: number of gold medals. China is sixteen, the US has fourteen. 1146 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 7: But Crawford remains unbeaten forty one to zero. Won by 1147 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 7: unanimous decision on Saturday. And I had to claim the 1148 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 7: WBA Junior Middleweight title. And the Dolphins restructured the contract 1149 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 7: of wide receiver Tyreek Hill that deals worth ninety million 1150 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 7: dollars over the next three years, with Hill getting sixty 1151 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 7: five million dollars guaranteed. 1152 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Bernie back to you. How about those White Sox, Dan. 1153 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 7: Mans Our technical producer Mark Ramsey, a White Sox fan, 1154 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 7: Mike Harmon. Of course Fox Sports Array, south Side Born 1155 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 7: and Bred. It's a tough one, but hey, you got 1156 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 7: the baseball draft to. 1157 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Look forward to next year. Well, in the words of 1158 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 2: Alfred Lutter of Bad News Bearers, Fame Rome wasn't built 1159 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: in a day. In fact, that several hundred years. But 1160 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I digress. You know, Dan, as you know, I'm in 1161 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 2: the car a lot between noon and one, and you 1162 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 2: guys do a fabulous jobs. Doug Gottleiave's support crew, and 1163 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 2: you brought up a great topic the other day. I 1164 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 2: really wanted to weigh in. You talked about your least 1165 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 2: favorite thing of football practice since teams are just in 1166 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 2: camp mount. Yes, yes, yeah, we did that in game time. 1167 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 2: I loved it, and I just I don't know if 1168 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 2: this qualifies, but I will never forget this because we'd 1169 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: always start about August tenth every year. Went to high 1170 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 2: school in southern California, and the first day you wake 1171 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 2: up after your first day in pads when you start 1172 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 2: two days and we had water helmets back then, and 1173 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 2: it looked like someone drew a line with a magic 1174 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: mark across my forehead. And then it always took a 1175 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 2: practices to get the straps under the shoulder pads right. 1176 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 2: I had. You know, my arms were rubbed raw ag 1177 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 2: arm pits. It hurt like hell, even if you wore 1178 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 2: a T shirt. And then the stupid knee pads never 1179 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 2: fit right. It took a few days, but that first day, 1180 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 2: you know, you're hitting like crazy. Nutcracker drills the Oklahoma 1181 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 2: Drill Bowl, in the ring. We did it all right. 1182 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 2: And that first day when you wake up the next 1183 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 2: day after your first day in pads, I'll never forget it. 1184 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, it's yeah, it is never fun. 1185 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 7: We did a draft on the Doug Gottlieb Show, drafting 1186 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 7: the worst parts about football practice. We probably could have 1187 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 7: done a four or five round draft. We just did 1188 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 7: two of them. That is absolutely one. Just the mark 1189 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 7: on your forehead for your helmet, and I assume it's 1190 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 7: probably still like this today. I just feel that they 1191 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 7: have better helmets. But coaches were always like, keep your 1192 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 7: helmet on, keep your helmet on. And it hurt because 1193 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 7: those helmets were just awful. 1194 01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 2: Bernie. 1195 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 7: I probably still have a permanent mark on my forehead 1196 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 7: for the helmets that I wore to high school. 1197 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 2: That was bad. 1198 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 7: My thing was coaches never letting me get water, right, 1199 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 7: that was one back then and now obviously it's a 1200 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 7: health concern, but yeah, you were not You were not 1201 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 7: allowed to have water. 1202 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 2: Water was like a treat. 1203 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 7: It was just I've always said you had to love 1204 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 7: football to play football. And that's why I admire all 1205 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 7: these guys, especially the guys who play in D three 1206 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 7: and then the smaller schools that aren't getting nil money, 1207 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 7: aren't going on scholarship, but they love to play football. 1208 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 7: Because there's nothing worse to me than practicing football. It 1209 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 7: was the worst, Bernie. Yep, it was the worst I 1210 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 7: to this day, honest to god. And I played my 1211 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 7: last year in high school fotball in the mid seventies 1212 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 7: and it was different than you know. 1213 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 2: The water deal and the way we hit, and they 1214 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 2: taught you to tackle with your helmet back then. Thank god, 1215 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 2: we're not all paralyzed. But I wake up sometimes in 1216 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: the middle of the night thinking, oh wait, is there 1217 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 2: life after practice? I wake up It's only a dream, right, Yeah, 1218 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 2: I liked football, but I hated practice. Oh my god, 1219 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 2: I hated practice. Suit was just drudgery. But well, you 1220 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 2: did it, you know, you did it if you wanted 1221 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 2: to date in high school and I still didn't date. 1222 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 2: So there's that. 1223 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 7: I'm not sure about that. I'll leave you with this. 1224 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 7: We're playing football in the upper Midwest. You would start 1225 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 7: in early to mid August, you know, around this time, right, 1226 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 7: and it would be sweltering and it would be humid. 1227 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 7: But then two months later you're playing at night games 1228 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 7: on a Friday where people are bringing out their winter 1229 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 7: coats because rymon temper stuck. It is it is such 1230 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 7: a quick turnaround in that football season. That first August 1231 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 7: game is usually sweltering hot, and then your last game 1232 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,439 Speaker 7: in mid to late October, early November, you're out there 1233 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 7: with your mittens and your hats. 1234 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's quite the well I could relate. My son, 1235 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, played high school football in Nova, Michigan, and 1236 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 2: he was on a team that made it to the 1237 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 2: state semi finals. They played a game on November seventh 1238 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,439 Speaker 2: against Adrian High School and that team put two guys 1239 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 2: in the NFL, including Kellum Davis, who played tight end 1240 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 2: for the Bears and Nova one. It was seventeen degrees 1241 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 2: that night. Yeah, it's free, right, and in two months 1242 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 2: earlier in August, you know, you're kicking off you the 1243 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 2: left final weekend in August and it's seventy five or 1244 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 2: eighty yep, yep. Good stuff is always Dan, you did 1245 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 2: a great job with that game time stuff for you. 1246 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Very clever. All right. So, former Michigan State University head 1247 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 2: coach Mel Tucker issuing the university, the leaders, the school leaders, 1248 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 2: alleging that they wrongfully fired him last year and violated 1249 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 2: his constitutional rights after he was accused of sexual harassment. 1250 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 2: It's a federal lawsuit which is filed last Wednesday and 1251 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 2: accuses the Michigan State School officials of taking quote an 1252 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 2: improper sham investigation of allegations that Tucker sexually harassed and 1253 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 2: exploited a rape survivor an activists I believe it employee 1254 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 2: of the university by the name of Brenda Tracey. You know, 1255 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 2: this is a story that was a story that was 1256 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 2: raging last year and now it's kind of below the radar, 1257 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 2: but it's very much out there, and if you live 1258 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 2: in Michigan, we don't know the damages Mel was seeking. 1259 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 2: But you recall he signed the ten year, ninety five 1260 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 2: million dollar dealer. He's only in the third year of it. Okay, 1261 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 2: But Mel Tucker is alleging, and they've got to have 1262 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 2: their day in court at Michigan State officials, well, they 1263 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 2: violated his rights to do process and equal protection, and 1264 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 2: they believe he believes he did. You know, the school 1265 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 2: violated his employment agreement. And the complaint also contends that 1266 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 2: the interim president at Michigan State her name is Teresa Woodruff, 1267 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 2: and their athletic director, their current athletic director, Alan Haller, 1268 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 2: may quote false and defamatory public statements against Meltucker, quote 1269 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 2: further destroying his reputation, his professional standing, and his livelihood. So, 1270 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 2: as I said, at the time of the firing, Tucker 1271 01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 2: was in the third year of a ten year million 1272 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: dollar contract due to earn about an additional eighty million 1273 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: dollars remaining on the deal. And look, the university is 1274 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 2: not commenting, which is obvious and the way till they're 1275 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 2: formerly served. And part of the story is that this 1276 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 2: Brenda Tracy, who was an individual who was advocating the 1277 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 2: protection of college athletes about sexual violence. She had apparently 1278 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 2: become friends with Meltucker over her advocacy work, and Michigan 1279 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 2: State actually paid her ten thousand dollars to speak to 1280 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 2: the football team about her story about actually being raped 1281 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 2: gang raped back in nineteen ninety eight. So this is 1282 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 2: a really story that's got a lot of layers. And 1283 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: in the lawsuit it references the fact that Tracy did 1284 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 2: speak to the Michigan State football team just a year ago, 1285 01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 2: or to check that three years ago, August fourteenth, twenty one. 1286 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: The story goes on to advance in a way that 1287 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:09,719 Speaker 2: indicates that mel Tucker and Brenda Tracy's relationship took a turn. 1288 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 2: In April twenty twenty two. According to the USA Today, Tucker, 1289 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 2: I don't want to say the word on the air, 1290 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 2: perhaps foddled himself during a phone call with her. Then 1291 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Tracy filed a complaint with the school in December twenty 1292 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 2: twenty two, saying that Tucker had sexually harassed her during 1293 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 2: the phone call. Several months later, Tracy filed a complaint 1294 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 2: with the school's Office for Civil Rights and Title nine Education, 1295 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 2: and Tucker told investigators that he and Tracy had had 1296 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:46,600 Speaker 2: con sexual consensual phone You get you get the gist, Okay, 1297 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 2: as the story goes, And by the way, Michigan State, 1298 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 2: which is a fine institution, they're no stranger to scandals. 1299 01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: Remember Larry Nasser, who's now serving decades in prison. He 1300 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 2: was a Michigan State sports doctor and he had been 1301 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 2: accused and he prosecuted and found guilty of assaulting many 1302 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 2: female athletes, including gymnasts who actually went on to win 1303 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 2: medals in the Olympics. So at the end of the day, 1304 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 2: mel Tucker's lawsuit contends the school deprived him of his 1305 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 2: right to a confidential and fair investigative process and that 1306 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:33,759 Speaker 2: they quote cared nothing about the damage being inflicted on him. Now, 1307 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 2: one of the aspects of this story is that they allege, 1308 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 2: and perhaps there's some truth to this, that Michigan State 1309 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 2: has had a history of failing to properly deal with 1310 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: sexual abuse allegations, and it's gotten a lot of media attention. 1311 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 2: So again, this is less than a year ago. Tucker 1312 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 2: was first suspended in September when this came out, and 1313 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: the Michigan State fired him later in the month. And 1314 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 2: the school's position is that Meltucker had subjected quote, they 1315 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 2: had subjected the institution to ridicule, breaching its contract and 1316 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 2: moral turpitude. Now there was a resolution officer that got involved, 1317 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 2: he concluded later in October. Tucker also engaged in behavior 1318 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 2: that violated the school's relationship and violence and sexual miscontent 1319 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 2: policy and indicated that their findings believed allegedly that Tucker 1320 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 2: had harassed and sexually exploited Tracy. So a very highly 1321 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 2: charged situation. When melt Tucker was fired, he appealed and 1322 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 2: in January he was denied, and so therefore we have 1323 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 2: this lawsuit which we'll be going forward now. It's been 1324 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: my observation on the outside looking in, when lawsuits of 1325 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 2: this nature come to the forefront, they're typically well, they're 1326 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 2: typically settled, and I get the feeling that's what's gonna 1327 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 2: happen here. You have to ask yourself, if you're part 1328 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 2: of the Michigan State regions, the attorneys are gonna get 1329 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 2: rich here. Again, it's you know, lawsuits, as most folks know, 1330 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 2: are time consuming and they're costly. So I think at 1331 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day, when Michigan State does their 1332 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 2: calculus and perhaps they find a medium or happy ground 1333 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 2: and not drag this thing out for years and move 1334 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 2: forward with their new coach and some of the new 1335 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 2: matchups they're going to have in the Big Ten, perhaps 1336 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 2: they settle this. I don't know. I've not read the complaint. 1337 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm not that privy to some of the fine details, 1338 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know how much either side is dug in, 1339 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 2: So this remains to be seen. What else remains to 1340 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 2: be seen are the is the soap opera known as 1341 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers New York Jets, et cetera, et ceter 1342 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 2: et cetera. Where is that going? And I got to 1343 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 2: tell you, I know that Aaron Rodgers was a little 1344 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 2: in denial about his tet a tet with Garrett Wilson, 1345 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 2: but I think it goes a little bit deeper than that. 1346 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraddle. We 1347 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 2: are coming to life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports 1348 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,759 Speaker 2: Radio Tariact dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening 1349 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're 1350 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 2: back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming 1351 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: to life from the tarat dot com studios here in 1352 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Coming up top of the hour, It's time. 1353 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 2: It's time to start to preview the NFL divisions. Tonight, 1354 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 2: We'll start with the NFC East in the NFC North. 1355 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 2: In the next four weeks, we'll take two divisions each 1356 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 2: Saturday night, give you our thoughts. I'll make some bold predictions. 1357 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,719 Speaker 2: Some of you might not like what a different seventy 1358 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 2: two hours makes. So now we are told that Saturday, 1359 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 2: the New York Jets, who had a ninety minute scrimmage, 1360 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, the forty year old Aaron Rodgers, eleven months 1361 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 2: removed from surgery, looked like a Hall of famer, according 1362 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 2: to Robert Salah. Okay, well, he should look like a 1363 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 2: Hall of famer, because Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Famer. 1364 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,719 Speaker 2: And they were very laudatory of Rogers command of the offense, 1365 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 2: rogers demeanor, Roder the playmaking doesn't surprise me. But what 1366 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 2: a dramatic turnaround from just a few days ago when 1367 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 2: Rogers was losing his mind after the first practice and 1368 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 2: pads it went very poorly. He was visibly upset, and 1369 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 2: a lot of the frustrations seemingly stemmed from the fact 1370 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 2: that there were several miscues from the offensive line, including 1371 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,519 Speaker 2: several sacks and poor snaps from their center, Joe Tipman, 1372 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 2: who's only in his second year, so he got a 1373 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 2: twenty year quarterback taking snap from a second year center. 1374 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 2: Rogers was livid when one of the offensive Linemen even 1375 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 2: stepped on his foot and Rogers went to the ground. 1376 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the collective panic that must have been 1377 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 2: amongst the Jets staff and people observing that. And Alan 1378 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 2: Lazard took up for Aaron Rodgers. He said, honestly, he 1379 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 2: expects the same standard that holds himself to out of 1380 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 2: everyone else, maybe like going to mindiicamp. Yeah, I think 1381 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 2: here's the deal. You don't panic this soon. But if 1382 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 2: you're the Jets and your history and what happened last 1383 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 2: year and so much riding on this, this is a 1384 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,799 Speaker 2: taste of what you're gonna see out of the Jets 1385 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: this year. One day crazy, the next day good. I 1386 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 2: don't know how many games are gonna win. I think 1387 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 2: the defense is solid, and I think if Aaron Rodgers 1388 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 2: stays healthy and can start at least fifteen games, the 1389 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 2: Jets are a playoff team. But it's all a big if. Okay, 1390 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 2: last season was derilled by injury. Nobody wants to see 1391 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 2: that happen again this year. Rogers does not want it 1392 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 2: to happen. He's going to need solid play from his 1393 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 2: offensive line. And let me tell you what this sod 1394 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. That came out. Rogers was a very good 1395 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 2: high school quarterback who always believed he need to do 1396 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 2: three times as much to get half as much respect. 1397 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 2: No Division one offers, goes to Butte Community College, does well, 1398 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 2: ends up a cow, still got no respect, gets drafted, 1399 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 2: goes to the Green Bay Packers, toils behind Brett Fahr 1400 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 2: for years. As far I gave him the cold shoulder. 1401 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 2: Rogers has a chip on his shoulder, and when things 1402 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 2: don't go right, he emotes, and he likes to be 1403 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,519 Speaker 2: in control. When he's meglomaniacal. He is a Hall of Famer, 1404 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 2: his legacy secure. There is so much pressure on the 1405 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 2: Jets this season that when things go wrong, I think 1406 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 2: you're going to see emotion, and when things go well, 1407 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 2: you're going to see emotion. The highs and lows are 1408 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 2: going to be a lot for Jets fans this year. 1409 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 2: He saw a taste of it. Just this past week. 1410 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,759 Speaker 2: We're in one practice. Rogers lost his mind and Robert 1411 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Sala even talked about him playing in the preseason, which 1412 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 2: Rogers said, that's news to me to looking like a 1413 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer on Saturday. Have fun, Jets, keep it locked. 1414 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 2: The Bernie Fradle show on Fox Sports Radio. 1415 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 1416 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddles show 1417 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We 1418 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,960 Speaker 2: are coming to live from the tirack dot com studios 1419 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Tyrat dot com 1420 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 2: will help you get there. Unmatched selection, fast free shipping 1421 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 2: for your road, answer protection and over ten thousand recommend 1422 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 2: an installers. Tyrat dot com the way tire binding should be. 1423 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 2: The NFL is here and the future always has a 1424 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 2: way of arriving ahead of schedule. And just to you 1425 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,719 Speaker 2: know what, three weeks from Thursday, four weeks from Thursday, 1426 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 2: the season will kickoff and we'll be back at it. 1427 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 2: And I think one of the more watch divisions will 1428 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 2: be the NFC East. Why because you got the drama 1429 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 2: known as the Dallas Cowboys, the most watched team in 1430 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. More people watched Cowboys games last year than 1431 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 2: any other team, including the Kansasity Chiefs. But they're not 1432 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 2: going to win the division. Actually, the Philadelphia Eagles will 1433 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 2: win the division and ten and seven is going to 1434 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, they got their third set of coordinators 1435 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 2: since the start of the twenty twenty two season when 1436 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 2: they got to Super Bowl fifty seven. They lose Jason Kelcey, 1437 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 2: a big loss. They lose Fletcher Cox, a big loss. 1438 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,839 Speaker 2: They bring in Saquon Barkley and a couple of other players, 1439 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 2: including welcoming back their defensive back who spent some time 1440 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 2: in Detroit, CJ. Gardner Johnson, and they had another strong 1441 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 2: draft class thanks to Howie Roseman. Yes, they have turnover, 1442 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 2: but this franchise and their culture seems to know how 1443 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 2: to win now. They've only missed the playoffs once in 1444 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 2: the last seven years. And there's an interesting factoid about 1445 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 2: the NFC East. No team has successfully defended the division 1446 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,679 Speaker 2: crown since two thousand and four. Well that was Dallas 1447 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 2: last year. So if it goes according to Hoyles, Dallas 1448 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 2: won't win it this year. They'll be a new winner. 1449 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be the Commanders, it's not gonna be 1450 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 2: the Giants. I believe it'll be the Eagles. Now. They 1451 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 2: have a tough September slate. They got a couple tough 1452 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 2: road games, but it's a marathon, not a sprint. When 1453 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: you look up in December January, I think the Eagles 1454 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 2: will go ten and seven and win the division, which 1455 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 2: means the Cowboys will not. Now, I know Cowboys fans 1456 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 2: and certainly Jerry Jones, if he's listening, and he probably is, 1457 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 2: will disagree with my assessment. Right, I think not only 1458 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:45,759 Speaker 2: will the Cowboys have a difficult season, a very difficult season. 1459 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 2: I think they could be under five hundred. I really 1460 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 2: mean that they open up at Cleveland. It's gonna and 1461 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 2: that's gonna be a landmine game. I think Cleveland's a 1462 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 2: lot better than people realize. I don't know what Deshaun 1463 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 2: Watson's gonna look like, but he's got a lot to proof. 1464 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 2: But when you have this kind of uncertainty, Mike McCarthy, 1465 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,720 Speaker 2: final year of a contract, Dak Prescott, who will get 1466 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 2: you twelve and five every year. But when the Cowboys 1467 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, you know the drill. They look 1468 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,759 Speaker 2: like a drunk crossing an icy street. They do nothing. 1469 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 2: They do nothing. And I don't disrespect Mike McCarthy, he's 1470 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 2: a good players coach. But it all comes together in 1471 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 2: the postseason. But you've got Mike McCarthy, Dak Prescott, and 1472 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 2: arguably their best player, Seed Lamb. They're sort of in 1473 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,680 Speaker 2: this lame duck campaign on the heels of an offseason 1474 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 2: when the Cowboys were actually depleted by free agency and 1475 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 2: to survive well. They did bring in a coordinator, Mike 1476 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 2: Zimmer to oversee what has in the past been a 1477 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 2: pretty opportunistic defense, and Mike McCarthy has to prove that 1478 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 2: his offense can do it not just during the regular season, 1479 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 2: but also in the playoffs. And if you look at 1480 01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 2: the Cowboys schedule, I'm not going to do one of 1481 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 2: those where you'd name the opponent from week to week 1482 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 2: and try to guess who's gonna win. But after they're 1483 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 2: by week seven, the Cowboys have a brutal four game stretch. 1484 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 2: Take a look at it. Three of them were playoff teams. 1485 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 2: I feel like the offseason distractions, combined with the fact 1486 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 2: that there's uncertainty with key players and their head coach, 1487 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 2: cannot be good for the culture. I think the Cowboys 1488 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 2: go eight to nine. The Commanders, new front office, new coach, 1489 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn, Jayden Daniels. We all know that the success 1490 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 2: rate at first round quarterbacks is not great, but there's 1491 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 2: a good vibe amongst the organization. They're gonna compete. I 1492 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 2: think they can win seven, maybe eight games like Dallas. 1493 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 2: But let's face it, they're just trying to get on 1494 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,920 Speaker 2: the Commanders, just trying to get on a positive course. 1495 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 2: They don't want to tread water anymore. I think they 1496 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 2: hold struggle early, but when there are no expectations and 1497 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 2: some of their younger players get experience, and look, dan 1498 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 2: Quinn knows how to coach, all right, the schedule gets 1499 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 2: a little easier and the arc of their roster will 1500 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 2: combine with the experience factor and their schedule. I think 1501 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Washington will finish fairly strong. Still, they're probably a seven 1502 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 2: to ten team. The New York Giants, you gotta be worried, 1503 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,599 Speaker 2: be very worried. I've sampled the hard knocks and you look, 1504 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 2: he kind of takes you behind the curtain and Joe 1505 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 2: Shane in his offseason thinking. And they now lose Saquon 1506 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 2: Barley Barkley, but they're going to try to build a roster, 1507 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 2: you know, and you've still got to pope Daniel Jones 1508 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 2: comes back from his ACL and that's not automatic. Right. 1509 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 2: They got a couple of hyped first round draft picks, 1510 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 2: including a wide receiver by the name of Malik Neighbors. 1511 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: Their offensive line should be improved, but they've got actually 1512 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,959 Speaker 2: the NFC easts most difficult schedule based on their opponents 1513 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 2: and their twenty twenty three winning percentages. I hate to 1514 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 2: say it, but this could be a year where the 1515 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 2: Giants are look like a five win team. So I 1516 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 2: like the Eagles to win the NFC. So let's look 1517 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,759 Speaker 2: to the NFC North, which is gonna be very interesting. 1518 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Bears, and I think the Vikings 1519 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 2: just had to endure too much to continue what they 1520 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 2: had been doing, and I liked their coach a lot, 1521 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 2: Kevin McConnell. I think the Packers and the Lions are 1522 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,839 Speaker 2: gonna bato it out now I'm still connected in Detroit. 1523 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,439 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a very good season out 1524 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: of Alliance. That culture is for real, that roster is 1525 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 2: for real. They're as hungry as they've ever been. They 1526 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 2: came so close last year that playoff loss at San Francisco. 1527 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,839 Speaker 2: You saw what happen. So now I think Dan Campbell 1528 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 2: and the team understands their role and how they're perceived 1529 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 2: and how the outside expectations are gonna be different than 1530 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 2: they have been in the past. Because look, I covered 1531 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,240 Speaker 2: the Lions and eight when they were zero sixteen and 1532 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 2: I saw it, trust me, I saw it all. But 1533 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 2: everything is different now. But it's still an organization that 1534 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 2: hasn't won a championships in nineteen fifty seven. The key 1535 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 2: is the rest of the division looks a little different. 1536 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 2: So the pathway to a super Bowl is going to 1537 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 2: require not only a strong start. Remember, the Lions got 1538 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 2: to play two home games in the playoffs last year. 1539 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,760 Speaker 2: That helped. The road game in San Francisco was their 1540 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 2: come uppance. They have an odd scheduling quirk between October 1541 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 2: and November, over an eight week period, they only have 1542 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 2: two home games. But they do have a young core, 1543 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 2: and they've got a stud wide receiver crew, and maybe 1544 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 2: this is the year Jamison Williams has his breakout. But 1545 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 2: I think the Green Bay Packers made a dazzling statement 1546 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 2: last year with Jordan Love, and from what I'm hearing, 1547 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,879 Speaker 2: it's not a fluke. It's not a fluke. The Packers 1548 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 2: not only had the league's youngest roster in twenty twenty three, 1549 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 2: they were on the verge of an appearance in the 1550 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game. What they did when they win into 1551 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 2: Dallas and kick them around. That was men against boys, 1552 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 2: and you gotta get a lot of credit to Jordan Love. 1553 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay's got a lot of talent. They have seven 1554 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 2: first rounders on that defense that really started to find 1555 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 2: itself in the second half of the year experience. You 1556 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 2: add Josh Jacobs, you add a safety, and Xavier McKinney. 1557 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 2: The real situation here could even blossom further. They have 1558 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator by the name of Jeff Haffley 1559 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:35,719 Speaker 2: who's changing the scheme. Okay, he believes that that scheme 1560 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 2: has underachieved. Given the fact they've had seven first round picks, 1561 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I think you might see aggressive Green Bay Packers defense. 1562 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 2: It plays downhill. It's a coin flip who wins this division. 1563 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 2: I think both teams make the playoffs, both Detroit and 1564 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 2: Green Bay. But I'm not kidding. I think it's gonna 1565 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 2: take twelve, maybe thirteen games to win that division because 1566 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 2: I have the Lions on the Packers both winning lead 1567 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 2: eleven and they could both win twelve. So it's gonna 1568 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 2: take twelve or thirteen to win that division. I'm tired 1569 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 2: of hearing this narrative that this number one overall pick, 1570 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams has entered a more favorable situation in the 1571 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 2: common draft since nineteen sixty seven. Now, I know he 1572 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 2: was the number one overall pick, but some people have 1573 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 2: said as a first rounder, well, you know, just let's 1574 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,840 Speaker 2: not forget Dan Marino joined the Dolphins in nineteen eighty three, 1575 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 2: the year after. Not only they've been to the Super Bowl, 1576 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,680 Speaker 2: but Don Chulu was their coach and the super Bowl 1577 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 2: roster with not great expectations. So you got a Heisman 1578 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,599 Speaker 2: Trophy winner, he's got some weapons on offense. He's got 1579 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 2: a defense that seemed to find its footing last year. 1580 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,679 Speaker 2: I forgot they did trade for defensive in Montese Sweat. 1581 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, even though the 1582 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 2: Bears won for their final six games in twenty twenty three, 1583 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 2: there was no pressure on them all right, So can 1584 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 2: Chicago sustain that moment them? It is written that the 1585 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 2: Bears have the league's easiest schedule aside from NFC South teams. 1586 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:14,600 Speaker 2: So look, if Caleb Williams can manage to lead the 1587 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 2: Bears to the playoffs, it'd be the fourth season in 1588 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 2: a row a rookie quarterback has led his team to 1589 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 2: a postseason if you count brock perty in twenty twenty two. 1590 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,639 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen. Finally, the Vikings. They 1591 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,879 Speaker 2: have talent, Justin Jefferson, maybe the best receiver in football. 1592 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 2: They say goodbye to Kirk Cousins, they say hello to 1593 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:42,200 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold and JJ McCarthy. Look the Vikings. Five of 1594 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 2: their first seven opponents were playoff teams last season. They 1595 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,040 Speaker 2: have to go to London, they have to play the 1596 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,559 Speaker 2: New York Jets in London. I think Kevin O'Connell gets 1597 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 2: a mulligan this year. They're going to be competitive, but 1598 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,600 Speaker 2: I think they're a five or six win team. So 1599 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,880 Speaker 2: there you have it. I want to bring in the crew, 1600 01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 2: get their thoughts coming up. I want to get the 1601 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 2: thoughts specifically on the Cowboys. Am I wrong? We all 1602 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 2: know what's taking place this off season, and we all 1603 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,959 Speaker 2: know what they're looking at. Am I wrong? Let's see, 1604 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fradle. Were coming to your life from Las Vegas, 1605 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. 1606 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 1607 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,080 Speaker 2: Hurry back on the Bernie Fradle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 1608 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 2: Coming to live from the Tarak dot com studios here 1609 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. 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Your 1632 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 2: thoughts on the general outlook of the Cowboys and where 1633 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:43,599 Speaker 2: your thoughts are? 1634 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 7: You know, Bernie, when you look at the entire NFC, 1635 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 7: And that's where I think that we have to look, 1636 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 7: because I think it Jerry Jones is looking at a 1637 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 7: super Bowl, so why not take it from his perspective. 1638 01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,440 Speaker 7: We've talked so much about the contracts of Dak and 1639 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 7: him entering free agency, and Micah Parsons and what you're 1640 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 7: gonna do with Ceedee Lamb and the all in conversation, 1641 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,800 Speaker 7: and none of that's been accomplished. And it's stuff that 1642 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 7: whether I've talked about it, or you've talked about it, 1643 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,600 Speaker 7: or others have talked about it, it hasn't been accomplished. 1644 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,120 Speaker 7: And I am I would be concerned if I was 1645 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 7: a Dallas Cowboy fan. I don't think Ceedee Lamb's situation 1646 01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 7: is of concern, and I don't think Dak's contract is 1647 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 7: of concern. 1648 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm concerned about their. 1649 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,560 Speaker 7: Running game and this is a team that had a 1650 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,240 Speaker 7: running game stall last season, they had Tony Pollard be 1651 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,080 Speaker 7: their lead back and that didn't work out, and Pollard's 1652 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 7: now with the Tennessee Titans. But you have Ezekiel Elliott 1653 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 7: that you then brought back because you thought Pollard was 1654 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,080 Speaker 7: going to be the guy. And Zeke han't been the 1655 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 7: main guy in the last couple of years with Dallas anyway. 1656 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 7: But it just to me is you know, that's where 1657 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,640 Speaker 7: really Dallas made their their bread and butter. And I 1658 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,439 Speaker 7: do think that you have to have a running game 1659 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,600 Speaker 7: in the National Football League. So when I look at 1660 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 7: them in then and I have questions about I don't 1661 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 7: know if Royce Freeman is going to. 1662 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 2: Be the guy or who it's going to be for Dallas. 1663 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 7: I don't worry about dak, I don't worry about Ceedee Lamb, 1664 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 7: I don't worry about any of that. I worry about 1665 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 7: their running game and I don't think that they have one, 1666 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 7: and I Detroit has one, San Francisco has one. Green 1667 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,360 Speaker 7: Bay invested in theirs this offseason and bringing in Josh 1668 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,160 Speaker 7: Jacobs and aj Dillon looks like he's back to being 1669 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 7: the number two there, and if he bounce back, bounces back. 1670 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 7: Green Bay is going to have a running game. We 1671 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 7: know the Eagles invested in their running game by signing 1672 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley. So you've got teams in that division. That's 1673 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,479 Speaker 7: what concerns me the most about the Dallas Cowboys. I 1674 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,800 Speaker 7: just don't know if they're going to be able to 1675 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 7: run the football. And to me, that's how you end 1676 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 7: up winning in the National Football League, and I just 1677 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 7: I don't see it, and I just see better teams 1678 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:49,000 Speaker 7: of the NFC. 1679 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,679 Speaker 2: All right, all points Stualley noted, and I don't disagree 1680 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,919 Speaker 2: with any of them. And Juxta pulls that Dan against 1681 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 2: what I consider to be a fairly daunting schedule, hitting 1682 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,760 Speaker 2: into their Byewey, you start out at Cleveland, but you 1683 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 2: got Baltimore on the docket, at Pittsburgh and the Lions, 1684 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 2: and if for any reason, say the Cowboys, I'll say 1685 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 2: three and four, I need them speculating here heading into that. Byewey, 1686 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 2: My concern is the culture, the culture and how this 1687 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 2: foundation of sam that Jerry Jones seems to be presiding 1688 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 2: over might start to finally cave. I don't think they're 1689 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,759 Speaker 2: going twelve and five this year after three straight years. 1690 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,559 Speaker 2: How does the culture sustain dan if they don't meet 1691 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 2: with success out of the gate. 1692 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,080 Speaker 7: You know, it's funny because I don't think culture is 1693 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,960 Speaker 7: their biggest problem. I do think that there could be 1694 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,479 Speaker 7: a change with Dan Quinn no longer being there on 1695 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,240 Speaker 7: defense and Mike Zimmer running the defense. But for all 1696 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 7: of the talk that we have about Mike McCarthy, I 1697 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:53,120 Speaker 7: mean that passing game did cook last season. I mean 1698 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:57,880 Speaker 7: it was it was cooking. And I don't know. I 1699 01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,879 Speaker 7: don't have a feel for the Cowboys and how McCarthy 1700 01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 7: is felt in the locker room. But does the Jerry 1701 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,680 Speaker 7: Jones stuff start to trickle down if that's what you're 1702 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 7: getting to, Yeah, I think that could be an issue, 1703 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 7: and maybe it's things get tighter for McCarthy. 1704 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 2: I would hope that as team plays with them. 1705 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 7: But I just it's funny because Jerry Jones has set 1706 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 7: up all of these things almost for his team to 1707 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 7: fail in terms of the contracts that we've talked about, 1708 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,760 Speaker 7: in terms of Mike McCarthy's future, and Bill Belichick is 1709 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,680 Speaker 7: you know out there as a possibility. Yeah, it all 1710 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 7: goes back to Jerry Jones. You have more of a 1711 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,200 Speaker 7: concern about culture than maybe I do. But you know, 1712 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,599 Speaker 7: they're three and four to start the season and they're 1713 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 7: looking like a wild card team. They're going to be 1714 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 7: a story and maybe that does creep into into Dallas. 1715 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,599 Speaker 2: And to your point, to be fair, set the record straight, 1716 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,120 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy is very popular as a players coach. They 1717 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,240 Speaker 2: like him and he's produced results and you saw him 1718 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,600 Speaker 2: in Green Bay. Okay, the issue here, and it's a 1719 01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,680 Speaker 2: really delicate situation because they haven't paid Dak and you 1720 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 2: certainly don't want to go back to the Drew Henson 1721 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 2: you know days as it were. But what do you 1722 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 2: do because Jerry desperately wants to win another you know, 1723 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 2: super Bowl, and it just doesn't feel like when he 1724 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,479 Speaker 2: gets hot and it's hard to breathe in these high 1725 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 2: leverage moments in the playoffs. That's where I think the 1726 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 2: culture right, and it's not necessarily from McCarthy, but some 1727 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 2: sort of systemic issue. 1728 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,120 Speaker 7: It's funny because I'll have a show later on today 1729 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,680 Speaker 7: with Carrie Rhodes New Eastern nine Pacific coming up, and 1730 01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,599 Speaker 7: as I'm doing some of my notes here for the show, 1731 01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,680 Speaker 7: we're going to be doing and what seems like a 1732 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 7: few hours, Bernie, I don't mind saying it now because 1733 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,559 Speaker 7: I'm going to say a little bit later. I don't 1734 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 7: necessarily understand what is happening with Dak Prescott's situation because 1735 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 7: if it truly is our make or break season again, 1736 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 7: this is a guy who broke his leg on national 1737 01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:00,040 Speaker 7: television that we all saw in a game against the 1738 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 7: Giants and what was a contract year and the Cowboys 1739 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 7: paid him. So what does Dak have to do to fail? 1740 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 7: So so when you look at what is going to 1741 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 7: be the barometer, as you said, you don't want to 1742 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,639 Speaker 7: go back to the to the Drew Henson, Quincy Carter. 1743 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 7: You know, was it Chad Hutchinson days? What I mean 1744 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,839 Speaker 7: it was it was crazy the quarterback carousel. Drew Bledzell 1745 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,920 Speaker 7: was a quarterback for all. I mean it was. It 1746 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 7: was nuts for who was playing. Yeah, not to confused 1747 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:34,680 Speaker 7: with yeah, all the quarterbacks that you had, like you 1748 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 7: at least you had some you know, stability with Romo 1749 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 7: and then and now with Dak coming in. But what 1750 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,760 Speaker 7: is what does Dak have to do to fail to 1751 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,600 Speaker 7: not resign him because you already paid him when he 1752 01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,600 Speaker 7: broke his leg and said all right, he's going to 1753 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,920 Speaker 7: be our guy. So now all that you've done I 1754 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,720 Speaker 7: think is basically just put off giving him a contract 1755 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 7: that I don't think Dak would take a penny less 1756 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,599 Speaker 7: since the team is now playing chicken with him right now. 1757 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 7: It really just doesn't make a lot of sense. And 1758 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 7: it's not a fact of are you committing to Dak 1759 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,080 Speaker 7: or you not committing to Dak, because obviously they aren't 1760 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 7: committing to him. But what does he have to do 1761 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 7: in a negative way that would make you say, all right, 1762 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,519 Speaker 7: we're not going to bring you back. This isn't going 1763 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,759 Speaker 7: to work because the worst case scenario already happened once 1764 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,720 Speaker 7: in his career with a broken leg and he got 1765 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:28,360 Speaker 7: a contract. 1766 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 2: Then is that going to be the scenario again? Would 1767 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 2: that be a spot? 1768 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,280 Speaker 7: Well if that if that's the case, then you know 1769 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,880 Speaker 7: that's the case, and then Dak will go and sign 1770 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,120 Speaker 7: for fifty million dollars somewhere else. But I just I 1771 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,599 Speaker 7: don't I think that Jerry set this up in such 1772 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,519 Speaker 7: an awful way that they're just going to end up 1773 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 7: paying more for a quarterback they probably could have just 1774 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,960 Speaker 7: signed and kept for the next five years at a 1775 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 7: cheaper rate. 1776 01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 2: This year as has been his most suparende E and 1777 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:55,960 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys. 1778 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm worried about the offensive line. That's something that 1779 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 9: I I that you guys haven't touched on yet. It's 1780 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 9: I don't know. To me, when you're downgrading from from 1781 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 9: a Hall of Fame caliber tackle and Tyron Smith to 1782 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,799 Speaker 9: a back end of the first round rookie and Tyler Geitton, 1783 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,679 Speaker 9: who was seen as a project to begin with, that's 1784 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 9: your left tackle spot. That's that's protecting Dak's blindside. And 1785 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,599 Speaker 9: when this is, you know, supposed to be a contract 1786 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 9: year for him, that's I don't know. It just kind 1787 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 9: of feeds into Dan's point. It's like, what what does 1788 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,040 Speaker 9: a bad season look like for Dak and what does 1789 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,840 Speaker 9: he need to do to fail and not get that 1790 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 9: contract because the way that they're setting him up, it's 1791 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,640 Speaker 9: it's not like he's in the most flawless situation, you 1792 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 9: know what I mean? 1793 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 2: Good points, both guys, Mark Ramsey, you want to wrap 1794 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:43,559 Speaker 2: it up on this. 1795 01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,200 Speaker 10: To the Cowboys, it just seems like, I mean, just 1796 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,280 Speaker 10: I know, they won eleven games twelve twelve years in 1797 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,040 Speaker 10: a row, so they. 1798 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:52,839 Speaker 9: Won twelve games. 1799 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,680 Speaker 10: Does Jerry's mind games trickle down to the players. 1800 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 9: You know, no, what's going to happen. Wasn't it their 1801 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,679 Speaker 9: defense that failed in the playoff game? 1802 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,479 Speaker 2: Well, Green Bay moved the ball up and down the field, 1803 01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,280 Speaker 2: but Dallas's offense, yeah that was yeah, go ahead. 1804 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,040 Speaker 10: So they weren't able to score. I guess in a 1805 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,600 Speaker 10: in a tremendous game, but a playoff had no CounterPunch, 1806 01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,600 Speaker 10: so they had nothing. So where they how could they 1807 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,360 Speaker 10: win twelve games and then the whole team be tight 1808 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:24,800 Speaker 10: and not be able to perform? 1809 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 9: So where they still? Is? 1810 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 10: This season going to be another season where they have 1811 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 10: to worry about what Jerry Jones is going to do, 1812 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,680 Speaker 10: the obvious pressure that he wants for his team to 1813 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,640 Speaker 10: win and to get things done, and to you know, 1814 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,000 Speaker 10: go round and around about whether the dack is going 1815 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,599 Speaker 10: to be there, whether the deck is going to get paid, and. 1816 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,360 Speaker 2: How about the head coach they're leaving Mike McCarthy dangling, right, 1817 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,000 Speaker 2: This is very unusual, very unusual. 1818 01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 10: To all those things spinning around for the teammates and 1819 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 10: just you know how not so much culture, but just 1820 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 10: what the players have to deal with. They have to 1821 01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 10: deal with their owner, who may be talking a lot again, 1822 01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 10: So it's a lot of stuff that they have to 1823 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,760 Speaker 10: deal with just to play the game and to try 1824 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 10: to get past a certain point if they get to 1825 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:06,839 Speaker 10: the playoffs. 1826 01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,040 Speaker 2: Again, maybe culture is not the proper choice of words 1827 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 2: for me, but there I do believe it's already immerged. 1828 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 2: There is a negative air around the team, and you know, 1829 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:22,200 Speaker 2: when things go wrong, what is their you know, what 1830 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:26,280 Speaker 2: is their pillar? And so you know, you got all 1831 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,720 Speaker 2: the things we just mentioned. So it's gonna make for 1832 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,679 Speaker 2: an interesting twenty twenty four season. I'm kind of sticking 1833 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,400 Speaker 2: to my guns. I think the Cowboys are eight, nine 1834 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:35,960 Speaker 2: to nine and eight. We'll see if I'm wrong. We'll 1835 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,719 Speaker 2: see if I'm wrong, but I know we'll all be watching. 1836 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:42,080 Speaker 2: Tell you what else, we're watching the Canadians women soccer team. Yes, 1837 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,320 Speaker 2: they actually advance to the quarterfinals of the Summer Olympic Games. 1838 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,760 Speaker 2: That doesn't begin to tell the story of the Canadians 1839 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 2: women's soccer team. First, let's go back to our guy 1840 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,400 Speaker 2: Dan Byer with the latest Bernie. 1841 01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:59,280 Speaker 7: We are looking ahead to what's happening in Paris, and 1842 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,639 Speaker 7: there's stuff that's already happening right now. The final rand 1843 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 7: of the men's golf event is underway. Leaders aren't going 1844 01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 7: to be teeing off for a little while. It'll be 1845 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,160 Speaker 7: John ramin Zander Schaffley in that final group at fourteen 1846 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 7: under par. Ram representing Spain. Shawfley trying to go for 1847 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 7: back to back gold medals as he represents the United 1848 01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 7: States in Great Britain's Tommy Fleetwood will be playing in 1849 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,559 Speaker 7: the same group as they are. Fleetwood is one shot 1850 01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,600 Speaker 7: back currently at thirteen under par, getting ready for that 1851 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,599 Speaker 7: gold medal match. In tennis as well, Novak Djokovic of 1852 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 7: Serbia taking on Spain's Carlos Alcarez. Today, US women's soops 1853 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,719 Speaker 7: team is in action at eleven o'clock Eastern time, facing Germany. US, 1854 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,320 Speaker 7: by the way, leads the medal count with sixty one medals. 1855 01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 7: The Americans have fourteen golds so far, that second best 1856 01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 7: behind only China. As for the Americans overall lead with 1857 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 7: those sixty one, France is in second place. They've got 1858 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,879 Speaker 7: forty one total medals. We were talking football. The Dolphins 1859 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,800 Speaker 7: did restructure the contract of wide receiver Tyreek Hill on Saturday. 1860 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,320 Speaker 7: Bud Crawford a winner by unanimous decision to claim the 1861 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,840 Speaker 7: WBA your middleweight to title now forty one to zero, 1862 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,640 Speaker 7: a world champion and his fourth different weight class. A 1863 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,559 Speaker 7: possible about with Canalo coming up next. Class of twenty 1864 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,040 Speaker 7: twenty six five star quarterback fights in Brandon and verbally committed. 1865 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 7: The Tennessee chose the balls over the likes of Alabama, 1866 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,680 Speaker 7: LSU and NC State. And in baseball, on Saturday night, 1867 01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,759 Speaker 7: Jack Flaherty made his Dodgers debut, going six innings, striking 1868 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 7: out seven. LA won in Oakland ten nothing. Padres got 1869 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 7: past the Rockies three to two. LA's lead on San 1870 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,840 Speaker 7: Diego and the NL West remains at four and a 1871 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,040 Speaker 7: half games. Mets they fell to the Angels five to four, 1872 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,160 Speaker 7: while the Mariners rally and pick up a six to 1873 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,439 Speaker 7: five win against the Phillies in ten Bernie, back to. 1874 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 2: You, Dan number one, Thanks for jumping in tonight, Bud. 1875 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,720 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to have you. And before I 1876 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,200 Speaker 2: let you run, I gotta have you. Weigh in ever 1877 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 2: so quickly on the Canadian women's soccer team. Should they 1878 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,559 Speaker 2: get to the gold medal game and win it, what 1879 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 2: a story this is going to be, especially after that 1880 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,760 Speaker 2: penalty that it was levied. 1881 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 7: On them by the federation. That would be quite a story. 1882 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,879 Speaker 7: And whether there's a week of stories in the Olympic Games. 1883 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,559 Speaker 7: You are way more into the women's soccer stuff that 1884 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 7: I am, Bernie. I know they're scandal I know they're spying, 1885 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,599 Speaker 7: but I'll leave that down in your alley, all right, 1886 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:13,719 Speaker 7: I'll focus on golf. 1887 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,840 Speaker 2: Very good, all right, very good, Dan, You take care 1888 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,280 Speaker 2: of pal. Thanks, Bernie, have a good show. Dani'll hear 1889 01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,759 Speaker 2: Dan later on these airwaves in a little over seven hours. 1890 01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 2: All right. So the Canadian women did advance, but not 1891 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:31,799 Speaker 2: without a backstory that you really kind of can't ignore. 1892 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,799 Speaker 2: By the way, they are the defending Olympic gold medal champion. 1893 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 2: They wanted the Tokyo Games in twenty twenty one. They're 1894 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 2: doing it without their coach. I believe the coach's name 1895 01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:50,680 Speaker 2: is Beverly Priestsman. There was a report recently that an 1896 01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,280 Speaker 2: analyst for the Canadian team was arrested in France last 1897 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 2: month after he was found flying a drone over a 1898 01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:01,599 Speaker 2: training session of the New Zealand soccer team. I don't 1899 01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,280 Speaker 2: know if the spine on the set pieces or how 1900 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 2: they comb their hair, but regardless, as punishment for this, 1901 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 2: they got caught FIFA. They assessed a six point penalty 1902 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,880 Speaker 2: on the women's team during their Olympic run. Now that's 1903 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,639 Speaker 2: a major setback, Okay, that is not a small penalty. 1904 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:24,080 Speaker 2: That meant Canada we need to win all three group 1905 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:28,479 Speaker 2: stage games to advance, and they did it. They wrapped 1906 01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:33,599 Speaker 2: it up by beating Columbia one nothing on Wednesday, so 1907 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:38,400 Speaker 2: they will next face Germany in the Olympic quarterfinals. And 1908 01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,760 Speaker 2: one of the things I think that's been reported this 1909 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily reflection on the players. I don't know if 1910 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,120 Speaker 2: they're even aware of it. I don't know. There's so 1911 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,720 Speaker 2: much I don't know. But I get such a kick 1912 01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 2: out of these side stories, as you know, and we 1913 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,519 Speaker 2: always have to have to draw on history. But apparently 1914 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,440 Speaker 2: just the other day there were emails released by FIFA 1915 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,240 Speaker 2: that were included as part of a formal dismissal of 1916 01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,679 Speaker 2: the team's coach and a fine of like two hundred 1917 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars. They found these emails that apparently 1918 01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,920 Speaker 2: seemed to underscore that the coach was supportive of these 1919 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,799 Speaker 2: maneuvers in spine. But as you know, these are openings 1920 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,240 Speaker 2: for me to have fun because this isn't exactly the 1921 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 2: first cheating scandal. His Some knucklehads like to say, if 1922 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,760 Speaker 2: you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Let's go back to 1923 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,439 Speaker 2: three eighty eight BC. Yes, even in the days of 1924 01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 2: Plato there was evidence of cheating. There was an article 1925 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 2: many years ago entitled crime and Punishment in Greek Athletics, 1926 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 2: put forth by a professor at Ohio State, and he dealed, 1927 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,519 Speaker 2: He tried that to get an English He detailed some 1928 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 2: of the athletics scandals all the way back in ancient Grace. Yes, 1929 01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 2: during the Olympics of three eight BC, there was a 1930 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 2: boxing bribery in the Olympics where a gentleman by the 1931 01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 2: name of Uphylus offessily bribed all three of his opponents 1932 01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 2: to let him win. And that prompted came organizers to 1933 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:16,800 Speaker 2: impose heavy fines on all four men. And can you, 1934 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, oh too much. Let's fast forward to 1935 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:26,040 Speaker 2: modern times, like back in four nineteen oh four. You 1936 01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,080 Speaker 2: see the summer Games in Saint Louis in nineteen oh 1937 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:33,080 Speaker 2: four featured the marathon. And they say this get scandal 1938 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 2: might have been the most bizarre in Olympic history. It's 1939 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,400 Speaker 2: certainly a spectacle a gentleman by the name of Fred 1940 01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:45,800 Speaker 2: Laws who won the marathon Rosie Ruiz of nineteen eighty 1941 01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 2: Boston Marathon fame as a piker compared to this guy, 1942 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:54,240 Speaker 2: all right, So back in nineteen oh four Fred Laws 1943 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,719 Speaker 2: he won, but it was found afterward that he spent 1944 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,720 Speaker 2: eleven miles riding a long in a car, and he 1945 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 2: was called out on it and admitted to cheating before 1946 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,360 Speaker 2: he could be awarded a medal. So maybe there's some 1947 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,519 Speaker 2: honor there. But the truth of the matter is it 1948 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,559 Speaker 2: was one of these weird races. One runner allegedly got 1949 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,559 Speaker 2: off course and cheated as well, because he claimed he 1950 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:20,240 Speaker 2: was he was chased by a pack of wild dogs. 1951 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,280 Speaker 2: One other runner somehow stopped off at an orchard to 1952 01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:28,040 Speaker 2: eat some apples, got a stomach ache and took a nap. 1953 01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 2: Somehow I finished fourth. One other runner who finished third 1954 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 2: was carried by his trainers over the finish line. That 1955 01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,040 Speaker 2: must have been a real hoot. Okay, who could forget 1956 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,639 Speaker 2: the nineteen nineteen Black Sox scandal. That's you know, there 1957 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,719 Speaker 2: have been movies made about that, and I mean, damn 1958 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,920 Speaker 2: good ones. Eight men out with John Cusack to this 1959 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:54,280 Speaker 2: day still holds up them. Excuse me. The big bombsheale 1960 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 2: though of the nineteen nineteen Black Sox scandal was and 1961 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 2: involved professional baseball, which was sacred, and it was the 1962 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,679 Speaker 2: most flagrant. Obviously there were multiple members. You know the story. 1963 01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 2: They accepted money from professional gamblers to basically throw the 1964 01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:13,200 Speaker 2: World Series. They were mad at their owner and Eddie Seacott, 1965 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,240 Speaker 2: who was promised a bonus of X amount of dollars 1966 01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 2: if you won thirty games, won twenty nine. And you 1967 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:22,120 Speaker 2: know their owner, I mean, his name escapes me. Now 1968 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:23,599 Speaker 2: I should know this off the top of my head. 1969 01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:27,840 Speaker 2: But that's a famous story. Everybody knows. Then you get 1970 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,639 Speaker 2: into more. I say this in air quotes recent times 1971 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 2: in nineteen nineteen, or checked that nineteen fifty one the 1972 01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 2: City College of New York. This involved basketball, a group 1973 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,920 Speaker 2: of college basketball players. It took money from bookmakers for 1974 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:46,719 Speaker 2: manipulating the scores of games. Thirty two players from seven 1975 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,760 Speaker 2: colleges were involved, admitted to accepting bribes. This one got 1976 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:55,160 Speaker 2: a little serious. Two of the players, including fixers, went 1977 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 2: to serve jail time. Coming up. I got a few more. 1978 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm not done, more recent ones. You might remember him. 1979 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,760 Speaker 2: Keep it locked you're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show 1980 01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:08,639 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Hi, right back on the Bernie 1981 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 2: Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We are coming to you 1982 01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:16,519 Speaker 2: live from the tyrac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. 1983 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 2: Coming up in fourteen minutes, the dance sensation sweeping the nation? 1984 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool you? Followed by what 1985 01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,360 Speaker 2: my name? I want to give credit to Mike Walter. 1986 01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 2: Let me just say this. I want to read his 1987 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,640 Speaker 2: tweet if I can find it. But the bottom line is, 1988 01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, I have no high school dropout. I did 1989 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:41,280 Speaker 2: go the full six years. However, every now and then 1990 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 2: I make a mistake, and I see, I knew how 1991 01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 2: I missed this hardwhift on this. I know that the 1992 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:51,080 Speaker 2: US women's team was playing Germany next well, in order 1993 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,479 Speaker 2: for Germany to advance, they would have had to beat 1994 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 2: in Canada Saturday, which they did, so Canada is out. 1995 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 2: Thanks to Mike Walter for tweeting and reminding me of that. 1996 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:04,720 Speaker 2: I knew it, but forgot it with time, all right, 1997 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,919 Speaker 2: And so I know, I think the game went to overtime, 1998 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,680 Speaker 2: went to extra time, and there was a shootout and 1999 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,880 Speaker 2: Germany ends up advancing, and so that'll be the United 2000 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 2: States next opponent. Regardless. You question at this point how 2001 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 2: much of a news story this will be, given that 2002 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 2: it is the Olympics and one of the most popular 2003 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,320 Speaker 2: Olympics of all time, now will arise to the level 2004 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,200 Speaker 2: of a couple of big ones. I'm about to give 2005 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:35,080 Speaker 2: you to wrap this up. Ian Roddy, do you have 2006 01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:36,720 Speaker 2: any thoughts on this whatsoever? 2007 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:45,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I don't know. For the the punishment they gave, 2008 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,640 Speaker 9: I feel like it should have just been to just 2009 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:48,400 Speaker 9: kick them out. 2010 01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:52,439 Speaker 2: WHOA, That's interesting because remember we don't know if the 2011 01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,080 Speaker 2: players were culpable. This might have been a coaching you know, 2012 01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:56,000 Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. 2013 01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:56,719 Speaker 9: I do. 2014 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,960 Speaker 2: But you get innocent, vite, you get a lot of 2015 01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 2: go ahead do But to. 2016 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:08,880 Speaker 9: Me, this is such an egregious what's the word infraction? 2017 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 2: Fraction? 2018 01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:13,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's such an egregious infraction that to me, 2019 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,719 Speaker 9: it's not very important like who was involved, who wasn't. 2020 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,519 Speaker 9: It's the fact of the matter is that cheating was 2021 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:24,759 Speaker 9: involved with Team Canada. So to me, it's it's literally 2022 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 9: just black and white. Cheating was involved with Team Canada. 2023 01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 9: They aren't allowed to compete in this Year's Olympics, it. 2024 01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,400 Speaker 2: Just feels like, okay, you're not wrong, but a lot 2025 01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,320 Speaker 2: of collateral damage. I get to read Mike Walters because 2026 01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,679 Speaker 2: Canada women's soccer got knocked out Saturday by Germany. Yes, 2027 01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,320 Speaker 2: I I had to know that because I know the 2028 01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,160 Speaker 2: US womens Se was gonna play Germany the next khad 2029 01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 2: and finish your point. 2030 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 9: No, I mean that's pretty much it. I just feel 2031 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,439 Speaker 9: like the punishment they gave them, you know, the six 2032 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 9: point penalty that was supposed to be insurmountable and stuff. 2033 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,120 Speaker 2: It's just well, they're going to win the goal, right exactly, 2034 01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,639 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe you know the old Rashid wallas Baal, 2035 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,200 Speaker 2: don't Mark Ramsey your thoughts. 2036 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,439 Speaker 9: So this is the team that had drones spying on 2037 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 9: other teams. 2038 01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 2: Well they were spined on New Zealand that was their 2039 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 2: first opponent. But yes, that's the long and the short 2040 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 2: of it. 2041 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 10: So, like like Ian just said, if there's cheating, and 2042 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 10: if they were able to advance even though they got 2043 01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,880 Speaker 10: you know, I guess demerits they should have been knocked 2044 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 10: out of it because cheating is cheating and why should 2045 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,799 Speaker 10: you why should a cheater be allowed to continue in play. 2046 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,000 Speaker 2: It's a question I can't answer. 2047 01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,360 Speaker 9: I I mean, if you break, you break that are 2048 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:43,840 Speaker 9: in place. 2049 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,679 Speaker 2: The coaches broke the rules, or or at least two 2050 01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,679 Speaker 2: of them did that, they part of the remaining staff remained, 2051 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,720 Speaker 2: so maybe they weren't culpable. I don't know. Just had 2052 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,400 Speaker 2: the situation last year with Michigan football with Connor Stallions, 2053 01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 2: and there's a Netflix special coming out on that in 2054 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:03,080 Speaker 2: two weeks, So you're not wrong on your premise. It's 2055 01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,599 Speaker 2: just that there'd be so much collateral damage with these 2056 01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 2: young ladies have been you know, good. 2057 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,559 Speaker 9: But that's the thing though, is like with the Michigan 2058 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,760 Speaker 9: thing that was that's a great callback till last year. 2059 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:16,040 Speaker 9: Just with that Michigan thing, even if the players themselves 2060 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:19,400 Speaker 9: weren't necessarily involved with the cheating, it's still the program. 2061 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,839 Speaker 9: Michigan cheated, so they should be punished. 2062 01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:26,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that they're punished somewhat. And I have 2063 01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,240 Speaker 2: all the details which I want bore of everybody with, 2064 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,679 Speaker 2: but they're not going to have their championship vacated. 2065 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 9: Well no, but I but that's the only reason that 2066 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,120 Speaker 9: I bring it up is just to compare it to 2067 01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,440 Speaker 9: the Canadian thing here it's the fact that, yes, the 2068 01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 9: players might not have been involved, but the fact of 2069 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,560 Speaker 9: the matter is that the team that they play for cheated, 2070 01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:45,839 Speaker 9: so the team that they play for should be eliminated 2071 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:46,360 Speaker 9: fair enough. 2072 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, listen, there are three doozies that I haven't even 2073 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,000 Speaker 2: gotten to yet. Who can forget? That's been thirty years 2074 01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,200 Speaker 2: for Krann out loud. It happened in Detroit. Shane stant 2075 01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:00,160 Speaker 2: who became a household name, attacked Nancy Kerrigan woul the 2076 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 2: baton at outside of Coble Hall. I was there the 2077 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 2: next day I saw the broken door. My buddy Mark 2078 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 2: Wilson covered it on TV. Nancy Kerrigan went on to 2079 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,600 Speaker 2: compete against Tanya Harding. That also became a movie, A 2080 01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:19,280 Speaker 2: great movie it. Tanya very well acted with Margot Robi. 2081 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,640 Speaker 2: I can't recommend it highly enough. Who can forget? The 2082 01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:29,320 Speaker 2: flate Gate somewhat similar to this Canadian soccer cheating scandal, right, 2083 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:33,560 Speaker 2: it's a weird one. The accusation was Tom Brady, when 2084 01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 2: he was with the Patriots, asked team equipment staffers to 2085 01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 2: deliberately under inflate footballs in the AFC Championship game against 2086 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 2: the Colts. The Patriots won Brady was suspended four games. 2087 01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,520 Speaker 2: He went on to win the Zooer Bowl that year, 2088 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,120 Speaker 2: peeled the suspension all the way to the US Appeals Court. 2089 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,640 Speaker 2: NFL had a two hundred and forty three page investigative 2090 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:56,200 Speaker 2: report as to what happened, and you know it now 2091 01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,240 Speaker 2: was mentioned along the same lines as Spygate and Bountygate 2092 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 2: and probably go down as the most memorable cheating incident 2093 01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:05,320 Speaker 2: in recent NFL history, given the fact that it involved 2094 01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,920 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Now, Ian, are you a Dodgers fan? 2095 01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:10,280 Speaker 11: I'm not. 2096 01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know it's a good thing. Maybe I 2097 01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,360 Speaker 2: don't have Bull or Ryan on the show tonight because 2098 01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:19,000 Speaker 2: I haven't even gotten to the twenty nineteen Houston Astro 2099 01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 2: scandal rates. I know that sign stealing has always been 2100 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,000 Speaker 2: a part of baseball and it's not against the rules, 2101 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,200 Speaker 2: but it is against the rules when you use technology. 2102 01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,440 Speaker 2: The Astros took it to a whole new level. They 2103 01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,680 Speaker 2: began using a camera in center field to zoom in 2104 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,280 Speaker 2: when opposing catcher's signs were being flashed with the pitcher, 2105 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 2: and the second part of the scheme was a little 2106 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 2: less sophisticated, when they would bang a trash can that 2107 01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,360 Speaker 2: player at bat knew that a breaking ball was coming 2108 01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:48,720 Speaker 2: if you didn't bang the trash, can you knew a 2109 01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,280 Speaker 2: fastball was coming? That cash to Paul Over the twenty 2110 01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:57,960 Speaker 2: seventeen World Series led to multiple suspensions, firings, fines. Years later, 2111 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 2: PitchCom came out, which made it pretty hard for you 2112 01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:05,360 Speaker 2: to do that now. But I know a lot of 2113 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,760 Speaker 2: Dodger fans who believe the actors never really got their 2114 01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,360 Speaker 2: come uppets ever and one final one. This kind of 2115 01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,240 Speaker 2: spans a decade. It's a baseball steroid era, all right, 2116 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:21,240 Speaker 2: we know that. Look, these are the players that were implicated, 2117 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:26,040 Speaker 2: Mark McGuire, Rafael Palmearrow, Alex Rodriguez, Barry Bonds. Major League 2118 01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 2: Baseball they overhauled its strug testing policies and during the 2119 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,640 Speaker 2: peak of the home run era nineteen ninety eight, course 2120 01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,880 Speaker 2: McGuire and Sosa associated there were sixty home runs three times, 2121 01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:41,080 Speaker 2: three different times, the Mitchell Report, Barry Bonds trial for perjury. 2122 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,920 Speaker 2: There are a lot of open ended issues, but everybody 2123 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:49,760 Speaker 2: winked coming out of the strike of nineteen nineteen ninety four, 2124 01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:53,000 Speaker 2: which canceled the World Series. The home run chase put 2125 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,959 Speaker 2: butts back in seats and everybody loved it, and everybody 2126 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,879 Speaker 2: winked and looked the other way, probably including me, because 2127 01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,680 Speaker 2: we were witnessing history. So there you have it, Canadians, 2128 01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,040 Speaker 2: You're not the only one, but you're not gonna win 2129 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:10,880 Speaker 2: a gold medal. Coming up? What kind of brand new 2130 01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:14,080 Speaker 2: fool you followed by? What my name? Keep it locked? 2131 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:18,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 2132 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2133 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,680 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Fratterle 2134 01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,840 Speaker 2: Show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. 2135 01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,480 Speaker 2: We all coming to you live from the tirec dot 2136 01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:33,280 Speaker 2: com studios here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. Tyrac 2137 01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 2: dot com will help you get there an not a 2138 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,839 Speaker 2: match selection, fast free shipping for your road, answer protection, 2139 01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:43,160 Speaker 2: and over ten thousand recommended installers tyreq dot com the 2140 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,600 Speaker 2: way tire of buying should be. Well, we've come to 2141 01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,520 Speaker 2: that juncture in the show. You know you love it. 2142 01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,160 Speaker 2: You can't live without it, the dance sensation sweep of 2143 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,120 Speaker 2: the nation. See because as you'll give. Barry once said, 2144 01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,600 Speaker 2: you can observe a lot by watching. That's exactly what 2145 01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,360 Speaker 2: we do. Because in this great land of are from 2146 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 2: seed to oily sea and even around the planet. Will 2147 01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:10,400 Speaker 2: people engage in activities that aren't real bright now? Oftentimes, well, 2148 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:15,000 Speaker 2: those activities are just silly and nefarious and not particularly serious. 2149 01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 2: Other times they are far more daunting. They can end 2150 01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:21,320 Speaker 2: you up in jail. They can make you end up 2151 01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,080 Speaker 2: in jail, usual for me to say, or worse. But 2152 01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 2: no matter what the activity, no matter what the engagement, 2153 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:34,160 Speaker 2: every time we observe these situations, we find ourselves scratching 2154 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:37,240 Speaker 2: our head and asking what kind of brand new fool 2155 01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:43,680 Speaker 2: are you? So? 2156 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,120 Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you? 2157 01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,440 Speaker 2: Let's go? Man, now pumped? I'm pumped. This one is 2158 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,080 Speaker 2: an all timer in terms of what really kind of 2159 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,080 Speaker 2: brand new fool of you? Now, I can never in 2160 01:59:56,240 --> 02:00:02,040 Speaker 2: good conscience suggest to anybody that you should steal anything, 2161 02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:06,680 Speaker 2: rob anything, take something is not yours. But we take 2162 02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,800 Speaker 2: you to Tulsa, Oklahoma, which I believe is a first. 2163 02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,640 Speaker 2: And a suspect was arrested, and I'm going to get 2164 02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,120 Speaker 2: to this story. It was not Dwight man Freddie of 2165 02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:23,440 Speaker 2: the Tulsa King Fame, which is a great series on Netflix. Man, 2166 02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:25,240 Speaker 2: it's a beauty. I wish it had come out with 2167 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:29,720 Speaker 2: season two. But I digress. That's the Vester stallone. According 2168 02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:34,160 Speaker 2: to the Tulsa Police Department, officers were called out last 2169 02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Wednesday to a street seventh Street or thereabouts, as if 2170 02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:44,720 Speaker 2: I know, because there is apparently an armed robbery in progress. 2171 02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:51,800 Speaker 2: Now here's where it DIDs wacky wacky, Yes, well the 2172 02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:55,080 Speaker 2: business they were called to. I mean, was it a bank, no? 2173 02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Was it a grocery store no? Was it a jewelry 2174 02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:02,400 Speaker 2: store No? It was the Golden Beauty Supply Store in 2175 02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:06,320 Speaker 2: their seventh in Sheridan. Yes, an armed robbery in progress. 2176 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:11,240 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we introduce you to David Neuby and 2177 02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 2: his picture online is not to be believed. Oh my god, 2178 02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:18,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything on the line, and 2179 02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:22,480 Speaker 2: I almost just did. But when officers arrived at the 2180 02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:28,440 Speaker 2: beauty supply store, they looked at the suspect and they 2181 02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:32,960 Speaker 2: couldn't believe exactly what he had been holding up and 2182 02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:37,680 Speaker 2: robbing this Golden Beauty Supply store for. What was he 2183 02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:43,160 Speaker 2: there for? Of course, it was a ponytail hair extension 2184 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:47,520 Speaker 2: and he was carrying a knife used in the robbery. 2185 02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:52,480 Speaker 2: And when police arrived, mister Newby was already wearing his 2186 02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:59,000 Speaker 2: newfound prize having stolen a ponytail hair extension at the 2187 02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,760 Speaker 2: Golden Beauty Supply store near Seventh and Sheridan holding an 2188 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:11,280 Speaker 2: employee at knife point, which became armed robbery. I tell 2189 02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:13,000 Speaker 2: you what I think. I just threw up on my mouth. 2190 02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:17,080 Speaker 2: This is one of the all time weird ones. And 2191 02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,760 Speaker 2: some of the comments on Twitter were even better. On 2192 02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:25,360 Speaker 2: the website that that report of this said, you know this, 2193 02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:27,800 Speaker 2: this state must have a pitiful mental health sism. People 2194 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:29,880 Speaker 2: like him usually get passed around from jail to jail, 2195 02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:34,320 Speaker 2: never get any real help. Well, I don't know what's 2196 02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,440 Speaker 2: going to help this dude, because if you're going to 2197 02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:38,440 Speaker 2: rob somebody, which is a bad idea in the first place, 2198 02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,640 Speaker 2: but you're gonna rob a Golden Beauty supply store at 2199 02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:43,720 Speaker 2: knife point to get a ponytail hair extension and then 2200 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:47,480 Speaker 2: be wearing it when the cops arrived. Yeah, all I 2201 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,120 Speaker 2: can say is, mister Nuby, what kind of brand new 2202 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,760 Speaker 2: fool are you? And then, speaking of a brand new fool, 2203 02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,680 Speaker 2: I guess he's a newbie. Right. Oh boy, see what 2204 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,320 Speaker 2: I did there? All right, let's pass the but on 2205 02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:01,600 Speaker 2: to our guy Iyadi. 2206 02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:06,920 Speaker 9: Okay, Well, h so for us this week's fool. The 2207 02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,560 Speaker 9: story begins in Saint Petersburg, Florida. 2208 02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:13,960 Speaker 2: Oh, finally back in Florida. Yeah, after job Ian. 2209 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:17,000 Speaker 9: Had to bring us back to Florida. It's been too long, 2210 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,520 Speaker 9: so we're taking us back down there. And in Saint 2211 02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 9: Petersburg police received reports of a possible vandalism in progress. 2212 02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:28,879 Speaker 9: So the callers said that they'd seen a man spray 2213 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:33,840 Speaker 9: painting a building downtown. Uh So, officers obviously went out 2214 02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:36,360 Speaker 9: to the scene, and when they arrived, they searched the 2215 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:39,480 Speaker 9: area and eventually found a man matching the description that 2216 02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,280 Speaker 9: the witnesses had given, and he was carrying a bag 2217 02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:46,160 Speaker 9: that was filled with spray paint can spray paint cans, 2218 02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,560 Speaker 9: so it was, you know, pretty damning evidence that this 2219 02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:52,600 Speaker 9: was the guy. Officers asked him to identify himself so 2220 02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,360 Speaker 9: they could figure out what his name was, and he 2221 02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,840 Speaker 9: refused to answer, but that was until he was placed 2222 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:00,560 Speaker 9: under arrest. After they put him in the back of 2223 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,280 Speaker 9: the patrol car, the man told cops his name was 2224 02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:07,320 Speaker 9: mister Monopoly and that is and that his birthday was 2225 02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,520 Speaker 9: four twenty sixty nine. Just just comedic genius, this guy. 2226 02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:14,600 Speaker 9: But the joke was on him, as the cops found 2227 02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:18,040 Speaker 9: his driver's license right after he said that, which identified 2228 02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:23,240 Speaker 9: him as thirty three year old Ryan Howard. So not 2229 02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:26,880 Speaker 9: not only was Howard taken straight to jail without passing 2230 02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:30,400 Speaker 9: going collecting two hundred dollars mister Monopoly joke haha, but 2231 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,560 Speaker 9: he's now facing several charges done, thank you? 2232 02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:35,280 Speaker 2: Did he pass border walk in park place? 2233 02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:37,680 Speaker 9: No? Nope, okay, none of it went straight to jail, 2234 02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:41,280 Speaker 9: mister Monopoly. He's now facing several charges, including an extra 2235 02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,680 Speaker 9: one for providing a false name. So the joke really 2236 02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:46,720 Speaker 9: was on him and Ryan Howard, or should I call 2237 02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,440 Speaker 9: you mister Monopoly? What kind of brand new fool are you? 2238 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,200 Speaker 2: That's a good one, Ian not a moving parts there. Now, 2239 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,120 Speaker 2: just to be clear, we are a sports talk show. 2240 02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:56,400 Speaker 2: This is not the Ryan Howard who played for the 2241 02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:57,720 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies. Correct. 2242 02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,520 Speaker 9: That is correct, at least, don't I think so? 2243 02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,480 Speaker 2: No, Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limit. 2244 02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Assume it's not. And the only reason I asked set up. 2245 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,280 Speaker 2: You guys know the old Bob Yucker joke, right he goes? 2246 02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:12,120 Speaker 2: You know I used to one night I got pulled 2247 02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:15,360 Speaker 2: over three in the morning by the Philadelphia Police, and 2248 02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:18,320 Speaker 2: I was fined three hundred dollars, one hundred dollars for 2249 02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:21,360 Speaker 2: speeding and two hundred for being with the Phillies. That's 2250 02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:23,320 Speaker 2: when they were That's when they were bad, true Bob 2251 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:26,840 Speaker 2: Yucker story. All right, good job being excellent, and I'm 2252 02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,440 Speaker 2: so glad we were able to revisit the great state 2253 02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:33,640 Speaker 2: of Florida. We missed you, Florida the last four weeks 2254 02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,640 Speaker 2: in our series of What kind of Brand New Fool Year, 2255 02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:41,640 Speaker 2: which now allows us to segue into our second favorite 2256 02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:47,440 Speaker 2: bit that we lovingly refer to as what my name? Hey? 2257 02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:52,280 Speaker 2: Here we go? All right, You saw where Shoheo Tani 2258 02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:56,360 Speaker 2: had reached the thirty thirty club after what one hundred 2259 02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,880 Speaker 2: and six games? Well, I once reached the thirty third 2260 02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,360 Speaker 2: club after just ninety games, the fastest ever in baseball 2261 02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,280 Speaker 2: history to do it. Ian Roddy, what my name? 2262 02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:06,839 Speaker 9: Could it be? Aaron Judge? 2263 02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:11,680 Speaker 2: You were close? Not Aaron Judge. Thirty thirty club after 2264 02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:15,680 Speaker 2: just ninety games, the fastest to ever do it? Mark Ramsey, 2265 02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:16,360 Speaker 2: What my name? 2266 02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:21,120 Speaker 10: There was a guy on Saint Louis that I think 2267 02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:22,640 Speaker 10: and have last name was Coleman. 2268 02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:24,640 Speaker 2: Oh, you're thinking of Vince Coleman. Yeah, Vince never hit 2269 02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:27,480 Speaker 2: thirty home runs, though, great base dealer. He played for 2270 02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:31,520 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. You want to take a shot anybody? 2271 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,920 Speaker 11: Uh, Doe Foster not a bad guess. 2272 02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,160 Speaker 2: Actually, Eric Davis, guys, remember Eric Davis. 2273 02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,400 Speaker 9: I wouldn't have got that one, all. 2274 02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Right, I have. I am the record. Oh my god, 2275 02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:50,120 Speaker 2: let me try that again in English. Good night, folks. 2276 02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:52,080 Speaker 2: You've been a great audience. Don't forget to try the 2277 02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:58,200 Speaker 2: semi bone with spaghetti, all right. I have scored more 2278 02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,480 Speaker 2: twenty point games in the history of men's basketball in 2279 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:05,040 Speaker 2: the Olympics than anybody with a total of eleven. Ian Roddy, 2280 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:05,680 Speaker 2: what my name. 2281 02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,040 Speaker 9: I'm I'm gonna guess Carmelo Anthony. 2282 02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Not Carmelo Anthony. I have more twenty point games in 2283 02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,879 Speaker 2: the history of men's basketball in the Olympics than anybody 2284 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,920 Speaker 2: else with a total of eleven. Mark Ramsey, what my. 2285 02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:22,640 Speaker 9: Name is it? Lebron? 2286 02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Not Lebron. 2287 02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:30,360 Speaker 9: Kevin Durant, guys, that was my next guest. Yeah, all right, we. 2288 02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:34,000 Speaker 2: Got college football just around the corner, all right. The 2289 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,080 Speaker 2: last time Ole Miss was ranked number one in the country, 2290 02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,200 Speaker 2: I was their starting quarterback, Ian Roddy, what my name? 2291 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,040 Speaker 9: This is wrong with Shaye Patterson. 2292 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Well it's not Shaye Patterson. That's a good name, man, 2293 02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:49,920 Speaker 2: And I wonder what he's doing. You know, he transferred 2294 02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:52,840 Speaker 2: to Michigan. Was one of Hardball's desperate moves and it 2295 02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,440 Speaker 2: almost worked, but it didn't. I liked him, you remember 2296 02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:56,080 Speaker 2: him right in? 2297 02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:58,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, solid player. I wonder if he's in the 2298 02:07:58,080 --> 02:07:59,240 Speaker 9: Canadian Football League now. 2299 02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,040 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he was kind of a runner like to. 2300 02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,360 Speaker 2: He's a good player, but it's not Jaye Patterson. Last 2301 02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,840 Speaker 2: time Old Miss, the Old Miss Rebels were number one 2302 02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,680 Speaker 2: of the nation. I was the starting quarterback. Mark Ramsey went. 2303 02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:12,440 Speaker 9: My name Alex Smith, Well. 2304 02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,080 Speaker 2: That's a shoe, that's I love the name. Of course, 2305 02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Alex Smith came out of Utah, but still I love 2306 02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:22,440 Speaker 2: the effort. Guys, you're gonna kick yourselves. It was Dak Prescott, Oh, 2307 02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Old Miss. 2308 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,120 Speaker 9: Was he in Mississippi State or am I wait a minute, 2309 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:32,120 Speaker 9: I know that one of those schools is number one. 2310 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,640 Speaker 2: You know, I was due for a biff double check. 2311 02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:36,360 Speaker 2: It was one of those schools. But the last time 2312 02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:39,120 Speaker 2: they were number one, Dak Prescott was the quarterback, so 2313 02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:42,200 Speaker 2: I might have biffed it. Old miss mistake, good good catch, 2314 02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:45,880 Speaker 2: good catchy and outstanding. Uh can you get it while 2315 02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:46,440 Speaker 2: we waiter. 2316 02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:48,160 Speaker 9: It says Mississippi State. 2317 02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:50,400 Speaker 2: Then you're right. I knew, I knew it was one 2318 02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:53,280 Speaker 2: of the two. And in my haste maybe I'm sleep depride. 2319 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,880 Speaker 2: But regardless had the state right, and they were number 2320 02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,680 Speaker 2: one last time, mississ State. Mississippi State was number one. 2321 02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:02,080 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott was the quarterback. All right, forgive me no 2322 02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:06,240 Speaker 2: news to me. I go to confession twice next. All right. 2323 02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:10,200 Speaker 2: I became the first Major League baseball player to hit 2324 02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:12,480 Speaker 2: four home runs in his first three games with a 2325 02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,600 Speaker 2: new team. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2326 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:17,400 Speaker 9: Pete Rose? 2327 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:21,400 Speaker 2: I love it, not Pete Rose, by the way, hanging around. 2328 02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:23,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to Pete Rose in about twenty minutes. 2329 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Here the great Andy Furman is gonna join us that. 2330 02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have seen the Pete 2331 02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Rose four part series on HBO. It's outstanding, very good. 2332 02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:34,440 Speaker 2: Pete lives here in Vegas. I met him a few times. 2333 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I like Pete, and I say, what though I think 2334 02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,160 Speaker 2: the jig's up. I don't think he's ever getting in 2335 02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,120 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, not while he's alive. So but 2336 02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:46,880 Speaker 2: we'll talk to Andy about that, all right. I became 2337 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:49,000 Speaker 2: the first major league player in history he hit four 2338 02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,640 Speaker 2: home runs in my first three games with my new team. 2339 02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:53,240 Speaker 2: Ian Roddy, what my name? 2340 02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:59,040 Speaker 9: Hmm, I'm gonna guess from this season, Juan Soto on 2341 02:09:59,080 --> 02:09:59,680 Speaker 9: the Yankees. 2342 02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:04,760 Speaker 2: You're very close. Jazz Chishold with the Yankees. 2343 02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:09,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, yep, all right. 2344 02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Another Major League Baseball record fell. I held the record 2345 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:17,720 Speaker 2: a four and twenty three straight starts as a pitcher 2346 02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,920 Speaker 2: with at least one strikeout. 2347 02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:28,480 Speaker 9: Mark Ramsey with my name, uh blue Moon Odum, I love. 2348 02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:31,800 Speaker 2: It, John Blue Moon odem of Oakland, A's fame. I 2349 02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:33,640 Speaker 2: love it. Just the names alone are with the price 2350 02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:36,760 Speaker 2: with mission. Thanks, we don't charge your mission, but still 2351 02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:40,280 Speaker 2: they would be with the price major League Baseball record, 2352 02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:44,080 Speaker 2: four twenty three straight starts with at least one strikeout? 2353 02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Ian Roddy, what my name? 2354 02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:50,520 Speaker 9: I'm just gonna throw a great name out there, Nolan Ryan. 2355 02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,960 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Not Nolan, it's actually Clayton Kershaw 2356 02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,200 Speaker 2: just got broken the other day after four under and 2357 02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:01,800 Speaker 2: twenty three straight starts. All right, I'm the only NFL 2358 02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:06,120 Speaker 2: player in history to return the opening kickoff for a 2359 02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:09,680 Speaker 2: touchdown in the Super Bowl. Mark Ramsey, What my name? 2360 02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey's getting this one? 2361 02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:16,200 Speaker 9: Devin Hester bam. 2362 02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:15,839 Speaker 2: Back on track. 2363 02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:18,680 Speaker 9: Hall of Famer Devin Hester. 2364 02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, all right? You know, I wasn't 2365 02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:27,200 Speaker 2: real happy that, you know, Caleb Williams couldn't take one snap. 2366 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:28,720 Speaker 2: What the hell you supposed to learn the game on 2367 02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:32,240 Speaker 2: a computer? This has gone too far. This might give 2368 02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:38,680 Speaker 2: you some perspective, guys. I'm an NFL quarterback, a retired 2369 02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:43,480 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. Hall of Fame, retired NFL quarterback. I once 2370 02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:47,920 Speaker 2: through fifty eight passes in an NFL preseason game. That's 2371 02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:50,280 Speaker 2: a record. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2372 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:54,760 Speaker 9: Say the question again? 2373 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:58,320 Speaker 2: I once through fifty eight passes as a quarterback and 2374 02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:02,440 Speaker 2: an NFL prese that's a record. What my name? 2375 02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,360 Speaker 9: Bart Starr, You're in the right era. 2376 02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:10,240 Speaker 2: It's not Bart Starr. Former Green Bay Packer. Alabama won 2377 02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:13,400 Speaker 2: the first two Super Bowls under Vince Lombardi. Had Bart 2378 02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,839 Speaker 2: Starr on my radio show once with Mark Wilson in Detroit. 2379 02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:22,200 Speaker 2: Great guy. I once through fifty eight passes as a 2380 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:25,120 Speaker 2: quarterback in an NFL preseason game. It's a record Ian Roddy. 2381 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:28,680 Speaker 9: What my name now? You said right? Era for Bart Starr. 2382 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,680 Speaker 9: So they're trying to decide between two guys, and I 2383 02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:33,360 Speaker 9: am going to go with Joe Namath. 2384 02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:35,840 Speaker 2: It's not who's the other guy? 2385 02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:37,720 Speaker 9: The other was Johnny Unitis. 2386 02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Not well, you're close, but it's Roger Staubach. 2387 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,280 Speaker 9: Ah Man, all right, so I wouldn't have been read 2388 02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:43,720 Speaker 9: either way. 2389 02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:47,880 Speaker 2: But all right, you gouts a couple of beauties coming 2390 02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:51,000 Speaker 2: up here to this day, I hold the Chicago Bears 2391 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:54,320 Speaker 2: rookie record for most passing yards in my rookie season 2392 02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:57,600 Speaker 2: twy and sixty three. Mark Ramsey, What my name. 2393 02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:01,520 Speaker 9: Is that? Jim McMahon is it? 2394 02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,960 Speaker 2: It's not Jim McMahon. I love Jim McMahon. I got 2395 02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:06,400 Speaker 2: recruited to play baseball b Way. I love the dude. 2396 02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why people say Bear's never had a friend. 2397 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:10,680 Speaker 2: That guy was the real deal. He might not have 2398 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:15,040 Speaker 2: had huge numbers, but come on, I'm the only Chicago Bear. 2399 02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Check that. I hold the Chicago Bears rookie record for 2400 02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:20,800 Speaker 2: the most passing yards in a rookie season twenty one 2401 02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:22,800 Speaker 2: sixty three. Interady with my. 2402 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:27,800 Speaker 9: Name, it's not a particularly impressive record. Say Jay Cutler, 2403 02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:29,320 Speaker 9: not Jake Cutler. 2404 02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:32,240 Speaker 2: Not Jay Cutler. Remember when Jay broke in? He was 2405 02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:37,160 Speaker 2: with Did Jay broke in with Denver? And then he 2406 02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:40,360 Speaker 2: got traded? Yeah s, all right, you got me on 2407 02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,680 Speaker 2: the Mississippi State one. Good for you, man, It's all. 2408 02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:46,200 Speaker 2: It's all to the good here. Uh you guys want 2409 02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:51,000 Speaker 2: to take one more? Guess a hell with it? Mitch Trubisky, 2410 02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Oh all right, I am the all time leading rebounder 2411 02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,640 Speaker 2: of US men's Olympic basketball. Mark Rams, what my name? 2412 02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,440 Speaker 9: All I could think of is the Admiral. I don't 2413 02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:07,040 Speaker 9: know if you played. 2414 02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:11,640 Speaker 2: David Robinson. Yeah, not David Robinson. I'm the only check 2415 02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:15,280 Speaker 2: that I'm the all time leading rebounder of US men's 2416 02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:19,600 Speaker 2: Olympic basketball. Mark Ran checked that. Ian Roddy. What my name? 2417 02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:22,480 Speaker 9: I feel like we would have heard about this recently, 2418 02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:25,080 Speaker 9: But it's I'm gonna guess Anthony Davis. 2419 02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:28,760 Speaker 2: It's not Anthony Davis, but it is on the current team. 2420 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:32,000 Speaker 2: Once again, it's Kevin Durant. Oh wow, Kevin Durant. 2421 02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:34,080 Speaker 9: You know what, I should have guessed that one, because 2422 02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:36,000 Speaker 9: it's just who's been to the most Olympics. 2423 02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:39,040 Speaker 2: Of all time leading scorer, most twenty point games, and 2424 02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:41,600 Speaker 2: now the all time leading rebounder. All right, last one, guys, 2425 02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:47,040 Speaker 2: I am the This one's a beauty. I'm the only 2426 02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears quarterback in the last thirty five years to 2427 02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:54,680 Speaker 2: be named All Pro. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2428 02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:57,800 Speaker 9: All Pro quarterback? 2429 02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:06,640 Speaker 2: Yep? Vince Evans, Oh, I love Vince sevens former USC 2430 02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:10,280 Speaker 2: player came off the BMW car dealership a lot that 2431 02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,800 Speaker 2: starts some game for the Raiders. He's actually more than 2432 02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:14,960 Speaker 2: thirty five years ago. But good, good name. I love 2433 02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:20,000 Speaker 2: the name. All Right, we'll see if I can get it. 2434 02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm the only Chicago Bears quarterback in the last thirty 2435 02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:26,440 Speaker 2: five years to be named All Pro. Ian Roddy went 2436 02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:27,000 Speaker 2: my name. 2437 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:31,640 Speaker 9: Once again. I'm gonna go with Jay Cutler. 2438 02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, guys, it is Mitch Trubisky. 2439 02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:37,080 Speaker 9: No way. 2440 02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:39,720 Speaker 2: You know what mit I gotta tell you, man. People 2441 02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:45,240 Speaker 2: dog him. He was like twenty eight and sixteen, completed, 2442 02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:48,240 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of his passes, went to the playoffs 2443 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:51,000 Speaker 2: two out of three years, and if not for the 2444 02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:53,320 Speaker 2: double point kick, they would have won a playoff game. 2445 02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:55,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, there was that one year when Nagy was still 2446 02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:58,160 Speaker 9: their head coach. In Trubisky, he was. He had a 2447 02:15:58,200 --> 02:15:59,880 Speaker 9: decent year. I think it might have been his sophomore 2448 02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:00,520 Speaker 9: ye or something. 2449 02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:04,320 Speaker 2: The guy. They hate the guy. And with all due 2450 02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,160 Speaker 2: respect to Justin Fields, because I respect Justin Fields. He's 2451 02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:09,960 Speaker 2: ten and twenty eight. Never put up any numbers at all, 2452 02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, I mean ranked the thirtieth, are blown all 2453 02:16:13,120 --> 02:16:15,560 Speaker 2: every major statistical category in the last six years. So 2454 02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:19,240 Speaker 2: look four years, three years, whatever, it's water under the bridge, 2455 02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:21,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. We'll see what Kayleb Williams can do, 2456 02:16:22,040 --> 02:16:24,200 Speaker 2: and we'll see what Justin Fields can do with new 2457 02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:26,880 Speaker 2: life in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't hold my breath though. And 2458 02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,280 Speaker 2: by the way, I like Justin Fields. He was brilliant 2459 02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:32,760 Speaker 2: at Ohio State and he's a stellar human being and 2460 02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:35,920 Speaker 2: a great locker room guy. But his default mechanism is 2461 02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:38,320 Speaker 2: to run. You've got to be able to operate from 2462 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:41,080 Speaker 2: the pocket, and after thirty eight starts, if you haven't 2463 02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:45,360 Speaker 2: noticed that, that might not be his his strength. By 2464 02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:47,240 Speaker 2: the way, shortly after the show to later, our podcasts 2465 02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:49,080 Speaker 2: will be going up. If you missed any of tonight's show, 2466 02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,600 Speaker 2: be sure to check it out. Check out the podcast. 2467 02:16:52,360 --> 02:16:55,720 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 2468 02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, 2469 02:16:58,640 --> 02:17:01,400 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports wherever you get your podcast and 2470 02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:03,280 Speaker 2: you'll see the show posted right after we get off 2471 02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,959 Speaker 2: the air. Coming up. In addition to being a stellar 2472 02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:09,560 Speaker 2: performer in the Olympics and the guy have a lot 2473 02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:13,120 Speaker 2: of respect for Kevin, Durant had some interesting things to 2474 02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:17,959 Speaker 2: say the other day as he defended Steve Kerr. He 2475 02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:21,200 Speaker 2: voiced his true opinion and he made a hell of 2476 02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:23,760 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to 2477 02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:26,360 Speaker 2: live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tirat dot com studios. 2478 02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:28,840 Speaker 2: Keep it locked you listening to the Bernie Fradle Show 2479 02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:40,960 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right back at the Bernie 2480 02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,840 Speaker 2: Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to live from the 2481 02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:48,760 Speaker 2: tarrac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Well, Chris 2482 02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:50,520 Speaker 2: Rock once said, you don't get a lot of credit 2483 02:17:50,560 --> 02:17:52,800 Speaker 2: for doing what you're supposed to do. But I think 2484 02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:55,200 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr deserves a lot of credit. If you haven't 2485 02:17:55,240 --> 02:17:58,520 Speaker 2: noticed by now, his approach to the rotation has been 2486 02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:02,720 Speaker 2: to give players, well, put them in strategic positions, give 2487 02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:06,720 Speaker 2: them strategic minutes so that they can take advantage of 2488 02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:10,560 Speaker 2: their skills based on the opponents are playing. It's been 2489 02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:13,960 Speaker 2: a sound strategy, but of course it's been criticized because 2490 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,720 Speaker 2: of who he benched. Remember just a few days ago 2491 02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:19,360 Speaker 2: he got a ton of heat after benching Jason Tatum 2492 02:18:19,360 --> 02:18:22,920 Speaker 2: and Tyrese Haliburton against Serbia. Kerr said, this is all 2493 02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:26,879 Speaker 2: part of the plan. Relax. He did play Tatum in 2494 02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:29,000 Speaker 2: the next game against sal Sudan, put him in the 2495 02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,480 Speaker 2: starting lineup, but then that night it was Joel Embiid 2496 02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:36,280 Speaker 2: who got benched. He played zero minutes. You know, the 2497 02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:39,359 Speaker 2: great Lily Tomlin once said, I always wanted to be somebody. 2498 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,760 Speaker 2: I just wish I'd been more specific. You want to 2499 02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:47,440 Speaker 2: be specific, be Kevin Durant. Love this dude, as I 2500 02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:51,040 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, all time leading score men's US Olympic team, 2501 02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:53,879 Speaker 2: all time leading rebounder more twenty four games than anybody else. 2502 02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:56,879 Speaker 2: He had a different perspective. He turns out to be 2503 02:18:56,920 --> 02:19:00,680 Speaker 2: the adult in the room, he said. Quote last game, 2504 02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:03,840 Speaker 2: we had a champion and an NBA guy not play 2505 02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:06,920 Speaker 2: any minutes, and tonight we had an MVP not play 2506 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:11,040 Speaker 2: any minutes. They didn't complain. We had guys who stepped 2507 02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:15,600 Speaker 2: up and filled the rules roles perfectly. You play to 2508 02:19:15,680 --> 02:19:19,160 Speaker 2: win the game, herm Edwards. And it turns out whatever 2509 02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:21,960 Speaker 2: NBA drama exists here in the United States, and of 2510 02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,560 Speaker 2: course it does on a nightley basis, they didn't pack 2511 02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:26,400 Speaker 2: it with him when they took it to Paris. The 2512 02:19:26,480 --> 02:19:28,959 Speaker 2: approach is working for USA. They won their first three 2513 02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:31,720 Speaker 2: games by sixty one points to the number one seed. 2514 02:19:31,959 --> 02:19:36,160 Speaker 2: They head into the medal round. They play Brazil, who's 2515 02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:39,080 Speaker 2: got a forty one year old point guard. All right, 2516 02:19:39,440 --> 02:19:42,039 Speaker 2: need I say more? They're headed to a collision course. 2517 02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:45,440 Speaker 2: I think with will either Canada or Germany, mainly probably Canada. 2518 02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:47,440 Speaker 2: They're going to win the gold medal. By the time 2519 02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:50,440 Speaker 2: I sign on next Saturday night, they'll have won the 2520 02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:56,120 Speaker 2: gold medal. Meanwhile, what has Caleb Williams won? Well, they 2521 02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:59,640 Speaker 2: want a tongue lashing from Amani Tumor. You won't believe 2522 02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:02,640 Speaker 2: what he to say. I'll share it. Coming up first, 2523 02:20:02,720 --> 02:20:05,480 Speaker 2: go back to our guy Dan Beyer with the latest. 2524 02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:07,519 Speaker 2: Thanks Bernie. 2525 02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:10,360 Speaker 7: The Dodgers got back on the winning track on Saturday 2526 02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:13,120 Speaker 7: night with a ten to nothing win against the Oakland 2527 02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:16,840 Speaker 7: A's Shoheyotani kind of stealing the show three stolen bases, 2528 02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:20,480 Speaker 7: joins the thirty to thirty club and Jack Flaherty six 2529 02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:24,760 Speaker 7: innings of work, seven strikeouts, allowing just five hits and 2530 02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:29,320 Speaker 7: zero earned runs in his Dodgers debut. Dodgers still four 2531 02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:31,280 Speaker 7: and a half games up on the Padres in the 2532 02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:35,279 Speaker 7: nl WES San Diego got past the Rockies three to two, Angels, 2533 02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:38,199 Speaker 7: were five to four victors against the Mets Mariners rally 2534 02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:40,240 Speaker 7: and get a six to five victory against the Phillies 2535 02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:44,240 Speaker 7: that was in ten innings. In baseball's longest losing streak 2536 02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:48,560 Speaker 7: continues now nineteen games for the White Sox. Twins beat 2537 02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:52,720 Speaker 7: him on Saturday six to two. Sunday action already underway 2538 02:20:52,760 --> 02:20:56,040 Speaker 7: in Paris at the Olympic Games Men's Golf on a 2539 02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:59,960 Speaker 7: round play already underway. The leaders will tee off at 2540 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:03,640 Speaker 7: six thirty nine Eastern time this morning. In the final group, 2541 02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:07,600 Speaker 7: it'll be Spain's John Ram, American Xander Shaffley who's at 2542 02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:10,720 Speaker 7: fourteen under par with Ram and Tommy Fleetwood of Great 2543 02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:12,040 Speaker 7: Britain at thirteen under. 2544 02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:13,840 Speaker 2: They will be in that final group. 2545 02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:17,360 Speaker 7: Scotty Scheffler and Rory McElroy will enter the day four 2546 02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:19,920 Speaker 7: shots back of the lead at ten under par. Currently 2547 02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:23,040 Speaker 7: in a tie for sixth men's gold medal. Tennis match 2548 02:21:23,080 --> 02:21:26,880 Speaker 7: has Novak Djokovic going up against Carlos Salkarez. US women's 2549 02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:30,200 Speaker 7: basketball team in action today facing Germany. Little tip off 2550 02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:32,840 Speaker 7: at eleven o'clock Eastern time this morning, and if you 2551 02:21:32,920 --> 02:21:36,480 Speaker 7: love the medal count, US is way ahead of everyone else. 2552 02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,760 Speaker 7: In fact, sixty one medals right now for the Americans 2553 02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:43,480 Speaker 7: after a whopping eighteen on Saturday puts them twenty ahead 2554 02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:47,080 Speaker 7: of France. The Americans, though still trail China in the 2555 02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:51,120 Speaker 7: number of gold medals, China at sixteen, the US has fourteen, 2556 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:53,359 Speaker 7: but Crawford remains unbeaten. 2557 02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Forty one to zero. 2558 02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:56,200 Speaker 7: Won by unanimous decision on Saturday, and I had to 2559 02:21:56,200 --> 02:22:01,240 Speaker 7: claim the WBA Junior middleweight title. Helpin's restructured the contract 2560 02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:04,520 Speaker 7: of wide receiver Tyreek Hill that deals worth ninety million 2561 02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:07,160 Speaker 7: dollars over the next three years, with Hill getting sixty 2562 02:22:07,160 --> 02:22:09,000 Speaker 7: five million dollars guaranteed. 2563 02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:12,160 Speaker 2: Bernie back to you Ah the dual sit Tones is 2564 02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:15,400 Speaker 2: the Great Dan Byer, the man for all seasons on 2565 02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:17,160 Speaker 2: our network. You'll hear him in about six and a 2566 02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:22,360 Speaker 2: half hours plying his trade, and he does it quite well. 2567 02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of flying his trade, well, Caleb Williams has you 2568 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,920 Speaker 2: have to take a snap? I don't know what the 2569 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:30,400 Speaker 2: hell these guys supposed to do to learn the game 2570 02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:32,360 Speaker 2: on a computer. And then also the real bullets fly 2571 02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:35,360 Speaker 2: at September eighth, and you wonder why you can't find 2572 02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:39,199 Speaker 2: you took us with both hands. Former Michigan Wolverine wide 2573 02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:42,400 Speaker 2: receiver and erstwhile New York Giant wide receiver Amani Tumor, 2574 02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:45,640 Speaker 2: who was on the Carton Show the other day, well, 2575 02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:50,560 Speaker 2: he he raised an eyebrow regarding Caleb Williams after the 2576 02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:54,560 Speaker 2: number one overall pick showed I see this in their 2577 02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:59,119 Speaker 2: quotes real leadership. When he implored his teammates to take 2578 02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:03,600 Speaker 2: better care of the live crew, what did Amni Tumors say, quote, 2579 02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:07,520 Speaker 2: He's Russell Wilson two point zero. This is not gonna 2580 02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:10,119 Speaker 2: go over. Well, some rookie is gonna come in who 2581 02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:14,800 Speaker 2: hasn't played one snap talking wearing the fingernail polish. Now 2582 02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:17,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna come in here and tell me who's been 2583 02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:19,560 Speaker 2: here and who's been through the struggle that I need 2584 02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:23,360 Speaker 2: to clean up. No, how about you, rookie, how about 2585 02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:26,240 Speaker 2: you clean up after me? Don't give me this crap. 2586 02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't like it at all. I feel rookie should 2587 02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:32,360 Speaker 2: earn the respect. Just because you got drafted number one 2588 02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:36,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean nothing to me. I repleate with the double negative. 2589 02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:39,160 Speaker 2: Love it not the first time Caleb Williams and his 2590 02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:43,160 Speaker 2: quote unique personality has come under fire. You know, Critics 2591 02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:47,000 Speaker 2: ripped Caleb Williams for having a pink phone, pink fingernails 2592 02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:49,520 Speaker 2: at a usc women's basketball game, and then when he 2593 02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:52,280 Speaker 2: cried in his mother's arms after the tough loss last November, 2594 02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:56,080 Speaker 2: just saying I wasn't one of those people. I don't care. 2595 02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:01,520 Speaker 2: And uh look, there are play many of other folks 2596 02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:06,840 Speaker 2: who have maintained their posture that Caleb Williams antics will 2597 02:24:06,879 --> 02:24:09,160 Speaker 2: have nothing to do now that he's a quarterback in 2598 02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:13,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. All right, maybe that's true. Don't tell me. 2599 02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:16,760 Speaker 2: Show me you want to be yourself, you want to 2600 02:24:16,760 --> 02:24:18,520 Speaker 2: be Kayleb Williams, You want to put from the rough, 2601 02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:20,760 Speaker 2: do whatever the hell you think. I covered the Detroit 2602 02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,119 Speaker 2: Lions for ten years pre and post saw it all. 2603 02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:26,279 Speaker 2: Trust me, I saw it all. I saw Barry Sanders 2604 02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:29,960 Speaker 2: last season, and I saw Rod Marinelli take the team 2605 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:32,720 Speaker 2: go through Zhe to sixteen. I have seen it all. 2606 02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:38,320 Speaker 2: When the real bullets fly in September, all the fun 2607 02:24:38,320 --> 02:24:39,879 Speaker 2: and games go out the winter. They just of course, 2608 02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:42,320 Speaker 2: it is all fun and games until someone loses an eye. 2609 02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:45,280 Speaker 2: It's about to get real. I suggest you give him 2610 02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:47,800 Speaker 2: a few snaps under center, of course, after he's done 2611 02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:50,280 Speaker 2: telling everybody to clean up the locker room. Coming up, 2612 02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:52,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined by the great Andy Furman. I 2613 02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:54,760 Speaker 2: don't know if you have seen. I hope you have. 2614 02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:57,240 Speaker 2: If you haven't, you're first in line for front of 2615 02:24:57,240 --> 02:25:00,400 Speaker 2: the Botomy Charlie Hustle. In the matter of Pete, it's 2616 02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:03,960 Speaker 2: a four part HBO series Petez eighty three. Now this 2617 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:06,440 Speaker 2: is his last hurrah. I don't like his chances to 2618 02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:08,360 Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame, but I don't think 2619 02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:11,440 Speaker 2: it serves any fruitful purpose anymore to keep him out. Now, 2620 02:25:11,480 --> 02:25:12,920 Speaker 2: I've met a Pete a few times, but you know 2621 02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:17,199 Speaker 2: who really knows him, Andy Furman. Don't miss this conversation. 2622 02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddlewer comes to you line from the Las 2623 02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:22,440 Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tireck dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. 2624 02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:25,039 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 2625 02:25:26,480 --> 02:25:28,280 Speaker 2: All right, we wrapping it up on the Bernie Fradle Show. 2626 02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:30,200 Speaker 2: Before I get to our Steam guests, I want to 2627 02:25:30,200 --> 02:25:33,800 Speaker 2: thank my crew back in Los Angeles, Mark Ramsey, Ian 2628 02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Roddy dan Byer with me since eleven pm Pacific on 2629 02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:39,680 Speaker 2: Saturday night, doing a great job as always, guys in 2630 02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:43,879 Speaker 2: every aspect. Great team, great teamwork, great camaraderie. Speaking of 2631 02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:46,680 Speaker 2: a great teammate, he's the biggest thing to come out 2632 02:25:46,680 --> 02:25:50,680 Speaker 2: of Cincinnati since Skyline Chile and Huter Pole Beer. Longtime 2633 02:25:50,720 --> 02:25:52,680 Speaker 2: friend of the legend Peter Rose, a legend in his 2634 02:25:52,760 --> 02:25:55,640 Speaker 2: own right. Say hello to Andy Furman. Andy, thanks for 2635 02:25:55,640 --> 02:25:56,600 Speaker 2: getting up early, Bud. 2636 02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,160 Speaker 3: You know what the best thing about your show not you? 2637 02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:02,400 Speaker 3: The music, your music to break Music's I love it? 2638 02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:06,120 Speaker 3: I read, Oh I love it, love it my madness. 2639 02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah so Andy, So let's let's dive into this the 2640 02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Pedrose documentary four parts as Spectacular. Before I get into 2641 02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:19,680 Speaker 2: your long time relationship with Pete, and before I ask 2642 02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:22,240 Speaker 2: you if you're wearing the alligator shoes he bought you. 2643 02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Did the documentary, Andy hurt Pete's chances of getting into 2644 02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:28,280 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. That seems to be the narrative. 2645 02:26:29,080 --> 02:26:31,160 Speaker 3: You know, I think every time that he gets out 2646 02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,400 Speaker 3: there and his name is out there, you're going to 2647 02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:36,320 Speaker 3: have the affections of those who love him and those 2648 02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,120 Speaker 3: who hate him. Some say he's a crook and something 2649 02:26:39,160 --> 02:26:41,959 Speaker 3: he's not. So I don't know if it changed many 2650 02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:44,680 Speaker 3: people's minds. If people think he's a bummed, they'll say 2651 02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:46,280 Speaker 3: he's still a bum to say, I told you so. 2652 02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:48,520 Speaker 3: If they love him, they feel bad for the guy. 2653 02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:50,760 Speaker 3: They're still in his corner. So I'm not so certain. 2654 02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:54,560 Speaker 3: Although I thought he came across a little crotchety, a 2655 02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:57,400 Speaker 3: little you know what I mean, more of an old 2656 02:26:57,480 --> 02:27:01,120 Speaker 3: man man. You know, he's showing that age. Right When 2657 02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:02,320 Speaker 3: are you gonna put me in the Hall of Fame 2658 02:27:02,480 --> 02:27:04,520 Speaker 3: when I die? I mean when things like that. It 2659 02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:06,480 Speaker 3: just that kind of got me a little bit, and 2660 02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:09,199 Speaker 3: it kind of told off a reporter when the producer 2661 02:27:09,280 --> 02:27:11,480 Speaker 3: was asking him questions. So that was not the Pete 2662 02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:13,760 Speaker 3: Rose that I remember, So I don't want to remember 2663 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:14,520 Speaker 3: him in that vein. 2664 02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:21,440 Speaker 2: Well. Absolutely, Look, Pete Rose is a colorful guy. He's funny, 2665 02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:24,080 Speaker 2: he's witty, he's a life of the party. I've only 2666 02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:26,080 Speaker 2: met him a couple three times. Have yucked it up 2667 02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:28,720 Speaker 2: with him? You've known him to the point back to 2668 02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:31,199 Speaker 2: his days at the racetrack. Talk a little bit about 2669 02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:33,359 Speaker 2: your relationship with Pete and the Pete. 2670 02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:34,119 Speaker 11: You know well. 2671 02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:37,640 Speaker 3: I was a pr guy at Latonia Racecourse in Florence, Kentucky, 2672 02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:40,480 Speaker 3: and then during the offseason, obviously Pete lived in Cincinnati, 2673 02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:43,720 Speaker 3: and he was out there. We raced thoroughbred races at night, 2674 02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:46,000 Speaker 3: thoroughbred horse racing in the evening. He'd come out there 2675 02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:48,160 Speaker 3: every night and he'd sit out on the table in 2676 02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:49,920 Speaker 3: the dining room. But many a time he wanted to 2677 02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:51,240 Speaker 3: be alone, so we put him up in the press 2678 02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:53,680 Speaker 3: box with us, and I got to know him fairly well. 2679 02:27:53,680 --> 02:27:55,640 Speaker 3: And one year he went on a tour of Japan 2680 02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:58,600 Speaker 3: and he came right off the plane at the airport 2681 02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:01,080 Speaker 3: because our race truck was somewhe and close to the 2682 02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:04,440 Speaker 3: greatest Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky airport, and he came with a 2683 02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:05,720 Speaker 3: big overnight beg. 2684 02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:07,440 Speaker 11: He said, any come here, take a look at this. 2685 02:28:07,480 --> 02:28:09,119 Speaker 11: He opened the big There must have been one hundred. 2686 02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:11,400 Speaker 3: Thousand dollars in cash in that big I mean, that's 2687 02:28:11,400 --> 02:28:13,920 Speaker 3: the way Pete was, and he laughed, he joked, I'm 2688 02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:16,000 Speaker 3: not so certain when he went to the races he 2689 02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:18,240 Speaker 3: wanted to win. I think he loved to lose to 2690 02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:20,720 Speaker 3: keep on playing. I mean, it was a mentality there 2691 02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,080 Speaker 3: just to bet. And you know, we did not have 2692 02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:26,080 Speaker 3: the greatest horses at Latoonia Race because there's a lot 2693 02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:28,480 Speaker 3: of nags that race there. So it was very difficult, 2694 02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:30,879 Speaker 3: very difficult to make a wager. But you look at 2695 02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:32,959 Speaker 3: the toadboard and he'd come out there and make a 2696 02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,360 Speaker 3: bet and he changed the odds from like twenty five 2697 02:28:35,440 --> 02:28:36,560 Speaker 3: to one to night to five. 2698 02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:38,039 Speaker 11: That's the way Pete Rose was. 2699 02:28:38,879 --> 02:28:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're onto something very insightful, Andy Beaus. This is 2700 02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:45,400 Speaker 2: someone who lives in Las Vegas and been, you know, 2701 02:28:45,400 --> 02:28:50,080 Speaker 2: know my way around this whole genre. The vast majority 2702 02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:52,080 Speaker 2: of betters don't get high winning the bet. They get 2703 02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:55,400 Speaker 2: high making the bet because they're action junkies. They're adrenaline junkies. 2704 02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:58,160 Speaker 2: Clearly Pete was, which caused him to even bet on 2705 02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:01,080 Speaker 2: his own team, which he finally admitted to. I think 2706 02:29:01,160 --> 02:29:04,800 Speaker 2: where he's turning. I think where the thing turns south 2707 02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:07,320 Speaker 2: is that Andy, did you get the impression because I 2708 02:29:07,360 --> 02:29:10,600 Speaker 2: watched all four episodes twice that he started to play 2709 02:29:10,600 --> 02:29:13,360 Speaker 2: the victim a little bit that I've paid my thirty 2710 02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:15,640 Speaker 2: five years, what are you gonna do? Blah blah blah. 2711 02:29:15,680 --> 02:29:17,240 Speaker 2: Did you get that impression of my wrong? 2712 02:29:17,680 --> 02:29:19,680 Speaker 3: I did get it, And you know what, I believe 2713 02:29:19,760 --> 02:29:21,720 Speaker 3: him in his corner. And maybe it's not fair for 2714 02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:23,880 Speaker 3: me to say that because I'm a fan. 2715 02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:25,600 Speaker 11: I love the guy, I really do. 2716 02:29:25,800 --> 02:29:27,800 Speaker 3: But you know, edwardo Perez said the same thing, and 2717 02:29:27,879 --> 02:29:29,320 Speaker 3: when I asked him question, he said, well, it's not 2718 02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:30,400 Speaker 3: going to be fair. I'm not going to give you 2719 02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:32,680 Speaker 3: an honest answer because I'm in love with Pete Rose. 2720 02:29:32,680 --> 02:29:35,640 Speaker 3: I knew him as a young kid, so it is 2721 02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:39,199 Speaker 3: that way. And I think that was a Leslie Visser 2722 02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:41,959 Speaker 3: was basically an interview and she said, how do you 2723 02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:44,240 Speaker 3: go to Cooperston? How do you go to Cooperstown to 2724 02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:46,240 Speaker 3: look for the old time leading hitter in the game 2725 02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:49,000 Speaker 3: of baseball? And his plot is not there? Boom, that's 2726 02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:51,240 Speaker 3: it right there. That's the answer right there. That has 2727 02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:53,360 Speaker 3: to be given. I mean, he's got to be there 2728 02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:54,720 Speaker 3: because of what he's accomplished. 2729 02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:58,600 Speaker 11: Did he bet? Did his betting alter the hits? The 2730 02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:00,720 Speaker 11: forty two fifty six hits that he got. I don't 2731 02:30:00,760 --> 02:30:01,520 Speaker 11: think it did. 2732 02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:04,879 Speaker 2: No, that's my biggest Well, first of all, my two 2733 02:30:04,879 --> 02:30:08,920 Speaker 2: biggest arguments are, I don't think it any longer serves 2734 02:30:08,959 --> 02:30:11,800 Speaker 2: any fruitful purpose to keep Pete out. It's been thirty 2735 02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:15,600 Speaker 2: five years. Let's make this a positive somehow, Number one, 2736 02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:19,920 Speaker 2: number two, all of his you know, hitting exploits pre 2737 02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:24,039 Speaker 2: date whatever betting accusations there were. And even Rob Manfred said, 2738 02:30:24,040 --> 02:30:25,840 Speaker 2: this is a museum. You said the same thing, Andy, 2739 02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:28,200 Speaker 2: this is a museum. Right. But one thing I want 2740 02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:31,360 Speaker 2: to talk about Johnny Bench, and you have I think 2741 02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:34,240 Speaker 2: in him and knowledge of the honest relationship Bench had 2742 02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:39,840 Speaker 2: with Rose. Bench declined to participate in this in this documentary. 2743 02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:41,600 Speaker 2: Give your thoughts on the Rose. Yeah. 2744 02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:44,800 Speaker 3: They asked Johnny Bench, basically, do you think Pete deserves 2745 02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:46,200 Speaker 3: to be in the Hall of Fame? And they kind 2746 02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:48,640 Speaker 3: of jumped all over the reporter and said, wait a minute. 2747 02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:50,760 Speaker 3: You know there's a rule you if you bet, you 2748 02:30:50,760 --> 02:30:52,560 Speaker 3: can't get him. First of all, you're right, Bernie, he 2749 02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:55,160 Speaker 3: bet basically when he managed the ball club, not when 2750 02:30:55,160 --> 02:30:58,959 Speaker 3: he played number one, number two. Johnny Bench, basically from 2751 02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:01,959 Speaker 3: day one was envious and jealous of Pete Rose, because 2752 02:31:01,959 --> 02:31:04,760 Speaker 3: Pete Rose is a native son of Cincinnati, born and 2753 02:31:05,080 --> 02:31:08,360 Speaker 3: born here and loved here and still loved here with 2754 02:31:08,400 --> 02:31:10,720 Speaker 3: it with a name Pete Rose Way, He's got a 2755 02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:13,080 Speaker 3: street name after him where Johnny Bench has a street 2756 02:31:13,160 --> 02:31:15,240 Speaker 3: named after him where and Binga, Oklahoma. 2757 02:31:15,320 --> 02:31:16,400 Speaker 11: All right, I get it. 2758 02:31:16,480 --> 02:31:19,760 Speaker 3: You know your two athletes, and you're competing on one team, 2759 02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:22,920 Speaker 3: but basically one is loved and one is basically kind 2760 02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:25,400 Speaker 3: of a one in one a And Johnny Bencher's the one, 2761 02:31:25,440 --> 02:31:27,920 Speaker 3: a greatest catcher ever in baseball, no doubt about that. 2762 02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:30,360 Speaker 3: But in Cincinnati was not loved as much as Pete 2763 02:31:30,440 --> 02:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Rose was. 2764 02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Well, and that's very true. We're talking with Andy Furman. 2765 02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:35,840 Speaker 2: You'll hear him on these air waves coming up in 2766 02:31:35,840 --> 02:31:40,800 Speaker 2: about twelve minutes with Bucky Brooks, Cincinnati native, longtime friend 2767 02:31:40,840 --> 02:31:44,039 Speaker 2: of Pete Rose. Before I get to what I want 2768 02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:46,040 Speaker 2: to talk about next, tell the story about the time 2769 02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:47,680 Speaker 2: Pete Rose botch you the alligator shoes. 2770 02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:50,039 Speaker 11: Oh this is you know, Peet, He's a character. 2771 02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:52,000 Speaker 3: So I be at the race truck every night, and 2772 02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:53,680 Speaker 3: sometimes you go down to the winning circle to make 2773 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:56,080 Speaker 3: a presentation, take a picture wherever it may be. Came 2774 02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:57,560 Speaker 3: back to the press box and Pete looks at me. 2775 02:31:57,600 --> 02:32:00,320 Speaker 3: He says, hey, hey, and the little shoes. I can't 2776 02:32:00,160 --> 02:32:02,760 Speaker 3: stand there ugly shoes. Where are you wearing those shoes? 2777 02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:04,640 Speaker 3: So I said, well, you know, what are you gonna do? 2778 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:06,720 Speaker 3: The next day he comes back with a box. In 2779 02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:09,760 Speaker 3: the boxes a pair of alligated shoes, about five hundred 2780 02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:12,120 Speaker 3: bucks a pair of shoes. Really, I said, what's that? 2781 02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:13,840 Speaker 3: He's there for you? So we need to wear these? 2782 02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:16,160 Speaker 3: I said, Pete, I really can't wear them because if 2783 02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:18,840 Speaker 3: I go down to the Winter's Circle right it's raining. 2784 02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:20,320 Speaker 3: I don't want it to get wet and ruin me. 2785 02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:22,360 Speaker 3: Where the hell do you think alligators live? 2786 02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:22,760 Speaker 11: Handy? 2787 02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,920 Speaker 3: Really, I mean that's he must have said. I said, 2788 02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:27,440 Speaker 3: I can't take the shoes from me. He said, hey, 2789 02:32:27,480 --> 02:32:29,400 Speaker 3: I got about a dozen pair. He had a pair 2790 02:32:29,440 --> 02:32:31,680 Speaker 3: of yellow and gold and green. He gave me a 2791 02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:33,560 Speaker 3: pair of block. I still I never wear them, but 2792 02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:34,920 Speaker 3: those are my pe row shoes. 2793 02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:38,520 Speaker 2: Pete was funny. I mean, my buddy Roy Firestone once 2794 02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:40,360 Speaker 2: asked Pete, Pete, you ever thought about what your life 2795 02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:41,920 Speaker 2: would have been like if you'd have been a girl. 2796 02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:44,320 Speaker 2: Pete goes, well, I've been an ugly one. I mean, Pete, 2797 02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:47,880 Speaker 2: that was Pete. He was funny. So two things. There 2798 02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:51,760 Speaker 2: was a point I think in the third segment, Pete says, 2799 02:32:51,800 --> 02:32:54,240 Speaker 2: you know I didn't rob Banks, I didn't go around 2800 02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:57,240 Speaker 2: knocking up girls. Well that's not true. That's not true. 2801 02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,920 Speaker 2: He did I think a knockoup or at least one 2802 02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:04,119 Speaker 2: other thing too. Iste people call Pete layer. I haven't 2803 02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:08,039 Speaker 2: done that, but I saw the one aspect of the show. 2804 02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:10,320 Speaker 2: Do you remember when he says I've never set foot 2805 02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:13,080 Speaker 2: in goals gym and then two seconds later I backdrop 2806 02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:15,320 Speaker 2: on the b roll they showed them and goals gym. 2807 02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:17,600 Speaker 2: Those are the types of things I think that really 2808 02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:19,279 Speaker 2: hurt Pete. A lack of sincerity. 2809 02:33:20,480 --> 02:33:21,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I just. 2810 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:28,440 Speaker 3: But all these I guess extras, the golds gym, whatever 2811 02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:31,400 Speaker 3: it may be. You know, that's just pounding on Pete 2812 02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:34,840 Speaker 3: Rose and using that as more material to keep him 2813 02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:36,960 Speaker 3: out of the Hall of Fame, which I guess people 2814 02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:39,320 Speaker 3: don't understand and has nothing to do with Rob Manford 2815 02:33:39,800 --> 02:33:42,480 Speaker 3: is the Baseball Hall of Fame and the writers basically 2816 02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:45,000 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame committee that, as they say, so, 2817 02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:47,080 Speaker 3: whether to let him in or not. And everybody's down 2818 02:33:47,120 --> 02:33:49,959 Speaker 3: on Rob Manford at major League Baseball. It's a separate entity. 2819 02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:52,160 Speaker 3: You know that, Bunny, Right, it's not major League Baseball. 2820 02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's remember back in nineteen ninety one when baseball 2821 02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:59,240 Speaker 2: changed the rules to formerly ban those who had been 2822 02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:02,560 Speaker 2: on the permanently an eligible list the year after Rose became. 2823 02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:06,440 Speaker 3: Eligible, right, You Look, it's one of those ongoing stories. 2824 02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:08,400 Speaker 3: And look, I think Pete Rose right now is more 2825 02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:11,560 Speaker 3: popular not being in on the outside looking. 2826 02:34:11,360 --> 02:34:12,560 Speaker 11: In than if you're right to be in. 2827 02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:14,640 Speaker 3: And I think that everybody in the world right now 2828 02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:17,360 Speaker 3: wants his autograph, but probably even has his autograph because 2829 02:34:17,360 --> 02:34:20,880 Speaker 3: he signs everything and anything. But what I don't understand 2830 02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:22,440 Speaker 3: is is it that big of a deal if he 2831 02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:23,840 Speaker 3: gets in to me. 2832 02:34:24,160 --> 02:34:27,360 Speaker 2: I think that after thirty five years and now that 2833 02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:30,920 Speaker 2: we have gambling in baseball, as I've said, I no 2834 02:34:30,959 --> 02:34:34,160 Speaker 2: longer think it serves any fruitful purpose. Last thing for me, 2835 02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:36,680 Speaker 2: and he buttoned up the story. We know he was 2836 02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:39,320 Speaker 2: tight with Joe Morgan, and a lot of players went 2837 02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:44,279 Speaker 2: to Pete's defense, Mike Schmidt, Tony Perez, several then Morgan 2838 02:34:44,400 --> 02:34:47,400 Speaker 2: passed his wife had the dinner that Pete wasn't invited to. 2839 02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:49,720 Speaker 2: Then the next day, on August date, they had Joe 2840 02:34:49,720 --> 02:34:52,240 Speaker 2: Morgan Day at the Park. Rose showed up, but in 2841 02:34:52,280 --> 02:34:55,080 Speaker 2: a separate in a separate area of the park. Do 2842 02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:57,360 Speaker 2: you know why he was not invited to that dinner? 2843 02:34:57,400 --> 02:34:57,800 Speaker 2: What happened? 2844 02:34:57,800 --> 02:35:00,560 Speaker 3: And I think it was an oversight. Yeah, I think 2845 02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:02,880 Speaker 3: it was an oversight. I really don't know exactly the 2846 02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:05,959 Speaker 3: details of that. But what I enjoyed more than anything 2847 02:35:05,959 --> 02:35:08,280 Speaker 3: else in that was when they interviewed Marty burn him 2848 02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:09,520 Speaker 3: in the Longtime Hall of Fame. 2849 02:35:09,720 --> 02:35:10,879 Speaker 2: I met Martins, great guy. 2850 02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the for the Cincinnati Reads. And you know, 2851 02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:16,680 Speaker 3: he said it would be a shame, a tremendous shame 2852 02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:18,440 Speaker 3: if in fact Pete rose down into the Hall of 2853 02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:21,240 Speaker 3: Fame after he passed. And I think that that may happen. 2854 02:35:21,360 --> 02:35:23,800 Speaker 3: It may very well happen. You know, why have a 2855 02:35:23,879 --> 02:35:25,880 Speaker 3: hall of fame? If you get to wait for someone 2856 02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:27,440 Speaker 3: to pass and put them in the Hall of fame, 2857 02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:28,760 Speaker 3: let the family enjoy it. 2858 02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:29,480 Speaker 11: That's all I'm saying. 2859 02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I said the same thing I've said since 2860 02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:33,760 Speaker 2: two thousand and four when I did an about face. 2861 02:35:34,520 --> 02:35:36,440 Speaker 2: I was on a show with Rob Parker and Detroit 2862 02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:38,800 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, the book came out, and 2863 02:35:38,840 --> 02:35:42,480 Speaker 2: I said, look all right, at this point, just reinstate 2864 02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:44,280 Speaker 2: him and let the voters decide. And you got the 2865 02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:44,800 Speaker 2: last word. 2866 02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:46,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, what did Rob have to say? I'd be interested 2867 02:35:46,680 --> 02:35:47,080 Speaker 11: about that. 2868 02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:49,080 Speaker 2: You know, Rob's dead said against him. He wouldn't vote 2869 02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:52,400 Speaker 2: for him, Not now, no way, no how Rober. 2870 02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:53,840 Speaker 11: He wouldn't vote for Tom Brady if he had to 2871 02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:55,000 Speaker 11: vote in the Hall of Fame. 2872 02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:57,080 Speaker 2: That's all. Can you stand four more hours? We'll go 2873 02:35:57,120 --> 02:35:58,160 Speaker 2: to the Tom Brady situation. 2874 02:35:58,240 --> 02:35:58,840 Speaker 11: Right, It's true. 2875 02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:02,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean Tom Brady. I mean I don't 2876 02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:06,240 Speaker 3: understand you. You vote on the guy's athletic prowess, that's 2877 02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:09,000 Speaker 3: what you do. His personality is a separate issue. What 2878 02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:11,320 Speaker 3: he did off the field a separate issue. What Pete 2879 02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:14,840 Speaker 3: did with young girls allegedly, you know that has nothing 2880 02:36:14,879 --> 02:36:17,080 Speaker 3: to do with the forty two to fifty six hits 2881 02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:17,680 Speaker 3: that he got. 2882 02:36:18,040 --> 02:36:18,680 Speaker 11: Period. 2883 02:36:19,480 --> 02:36:21,760 Speaker 2: You're making perfect sense, Andy, but we're dealing with human 2884 02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:24,760 Speaker 2: beings who often make decisions on a motion and justifyable logic. 2885 02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:27,920 Speaker 2: Have a great show, Andy, Thank you, Burn. That is 2886 02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:30,000 Speaker 2: the great Andy Furman. You hear him a few minutes 2887 02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:35,360 Speaker 2: here with Bucky brooks Now. In case you missed it, Look, 2888 02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:42,320 Speaker 2: this documentary is excellent. Four episodes HBO. It's entitled Pete Rose. 2889 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, the sog of Pete Rose. Whatever the heck, 2890 02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:47,959 Speaker 2: it's called Charlie Hustle, the Matter of Pete Rose. And 2891 02:36:48,120 --> 02:36:50,560 Speaker 2: the first two episodes are terrific. They deal with his 2892 02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:53,000 Speaker 2: playing days as a young rookie coming up, and then 2893 02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:55,600 Speaker 2: on with the Phillies and expos et cetera, et cetera, 2894 02:36:55,920 --> 02:36:57,760 Speaker 2: then back with the Reds as a player manager, and 2895 02:36:57,800 --> 02:36:59,879 Speaker 2: the final two you have to deal with the last half, 2896 02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:04,280 Speaker 2: in the last thirty five years and his life in 2897 02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:06,440 Speaker 2: Pete says, you know, all I did was bet on baseball, 2898 02:37:06,480 --> 02:37:08,760 Speaker 2: didn't Rob Banks. To be honest with you, I guess 2899 02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm telling the truth. What I tell you. The only 2900 02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:13,600 Speaker 2: bad quality I had was that I gambled on baseball. 2901 02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:16,400 Speaker 2: The problem is it's in every locker, it's in every clubhouse. 2902 02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:20,120 Speaker 2: He can't do it Roses eighty three. Now he's still charming, 2903 02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:23,480 Speaker 2: he's still humorous, but ultimately he was his own worst enemy. 2904 02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:26,279 Speaker 2: In this documentary, you have to see it to believe it. 2905 02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:29,039 Speaker 2: Good stuff from Andy Furman. It's gonna do it for 2906 02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:31,160 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. I will be back on these 2907 02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:35,520 Speaker 2: airwaves next Friday night, eleven pm with plenty more high jinks. 2908 02:37:35,520 --> 02:37:37,880 Speaker 2: In the meantime, keep it locked up next to Great 2909 02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:39,959 Speaker 2: Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio