1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Friday. This week we talked about the 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Bunker Hill Monument because I had a little field trip. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: I told you I had a question about the field trip. 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Please tell me. Did you do the steps? I did 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: do the steps. I walked up all of those steps. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: I walked. It was not that bad. But I also 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: walked more slowly than anyone else. I several times moved 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: over to let somebody else go past me, and some 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: of the people that were pushing themselves past me. I 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: then got to the top and they were ready to collapse. 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: So I did do it, but I did it slowly. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: And then I spent some time up there taking pictures 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: of the view from the top of it. It was 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: a clear but overcast day, so there was a you 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: could see a long way, which is very nice. There's 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: also just a terrifying grate in the floor that I 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: used to step on because I was like, I don't 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: know if that goes all the way to the bottom, 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: but I feel like it does. Yeah, And so I 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: just don't want to mess with that, and then weirdly 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: coming back down was a little bit harder because going 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: up periodically there is a number painted on the face 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of the step, like fifty drafty whatever. You can do 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: your fractions, yeah, you can know how much farther you 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: have to go. And then on the way down, all 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: you really have is occasionally there's a little narrow slit 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: window and you can look out and try to estimate 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: how high up you still are. So just you're coming 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: down and you don't really know how much longer down 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: you need to go. I immediately wondered because when I 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: was in Italy and April, uh huh, did you know 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: you can go up on the roof of Saint Peter's Basilica. 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: I did not. You can't how many steps as well? 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: You could take an elevator up. I think it's like 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: three floors, or you could take the elevator. But then 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: from the roof you can go up into the dome, okay, 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: which is like five hundred and fifteen steps or something 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: around there. And I was we were very debatey, we 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: were leaning towards something, but then we saw the entry 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: to the stairwell. It's not open, it's enclosed and it's 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: very narrow, and I was like, yeah, I'm might have 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: a panic attack at step one and fifty three and 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: you won't be able to get other people past me 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: because I will just collapse and cry because it's literally 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: so narrow. Like if you and I were passing each 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: other in that hallway essentially stairwell, we would have to 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: go like both of us would have to put backs 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: against the wall. Yeah, just slide through. And I was like, nope, nope, 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: nope below, So this is not quite that narrow. You 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: did have to kind of squeeze to get around people, 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: but you did not have to go like face to 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: face or back to back to do it. I had 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: a small backpack on because I was kind of out 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: for the day doing walking around stuff and I wanted 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: sunscreen and water and all of that, and I felt 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: a little awkward with it trying to let people buy 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: or on the way down work around people. So I 60 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: do not think you would have enjoyed that stair climb 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: at all. So I'm lazy. I would be like, stairs, nice, 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: is there somewhere to get a breezy beverage? It felt 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: It was a very warm day that day and it 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: felt cooler inside the monument that it did outside, which 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I think helped. But when I got home, which after 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: leaving the monuments going to the two Ranger talks that 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: I went to, I walked from there to North Station 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: along the Harbor Walk, which nobody who doesn't live in 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Boston knows what I'm talking about, but it was a 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: long walk. I kind of went by the Charlestown Naval 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Yard to get there. And then I got home and 72 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I did nothing for the rest of the day. Yeah, 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I watched a whole lot of television, So yeah, I 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: went down there because I felt like when I read 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: these news reports, I was like, Okay, the quotes belong 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: there for some reason. I can't tell what the reason 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: is from any of these articles. And that was across 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: the board. Every article I read, I was like, I 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: don't understand what this exhibit is that these have come from. Yeah, 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: are they all from one exhibit? Are they from different 81 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: parts of the monument. One of the articles was straightforwardly 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: incorrect and said that the quotes were in the museum 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: that's across the street, which that's not where. I think 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: there might have been one of them somewhere in there. 85 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: But like, that's it's not really what was being talked about, 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: and so I just went down there on a Saturday 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: morning to figure it out. A couple of interesting things 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: besides my I climb up the tower that came from 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: that little visit is that, according to one of the 90 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: ranger talks that I heard, the Marquis de Lafayette, when 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: he did the cornerstone, he put it in the wrong place, 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: and so people came and moved it in the middle 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of the night so that they would not embarrass him. 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that sounds almost like, you know, 95 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: unsubstantiated lord to me, but I don't know. Both of 96 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: the rangers that did talks while I was there seemed 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: very knowledgeable and to know what they were talking about, 98 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: and they were both very ready to say nobody said, 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes, right, 100 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Like they seemed to be on board with the debunking 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: of things. So maybe that is definitely something that happened, 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: but I wasn't able to confirm it. Also, the rangers 103 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: were also talking about a lot of the things that 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: are kind of carried through in this exhibit from the 105 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: lodge about how liberty has meant different things to different people. Yeah, 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: between seventeen seventy five and now, and how liberty meant 107 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: different things to the men who were there, Like people 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: could be fighting for very different ideals, but all believing 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: they were fighting for liberty. So that was great. Saw 110 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: a demonstration of firing a musket. That was fun. So yeah, 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: it was a nice a nice morning. And then not 112 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: only on a Friday afternoon, but also while I was 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: off of work visiting my parents, the order came from 114 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the judge saying you got to stop taking down all 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: of this stuff. And I have not thoroughly read the 116 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: whole order from the judge, but there was sort of 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: a list of things that had already been removed. It 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: talked about the President's House site, which was covered on 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: the show before. There was a section of things that 120 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: had been flagged for removal but not removed yet, and 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: one of them was these quotes from the Bunker Hill monument. 122 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure that there will be an appeal 123 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: by the federal government of this, but for now, no 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: more things should be removed from park signs and whatnot. 125 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Under the Restoring Truth Insanity to American History Executive order 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: and the Department of the Interior orders that followed it. 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I did try to get in touch with the National 128 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Park Service to ask a couple of questions about like when, 129 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: for sure was this exhibit created, because I thought the 130 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: answer was twenty twenty three, but I didn't know for sure. 131 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I had a couple of other questions there were just 132 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: like who wrote this these panels, like oh, right, was 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: it somebody at the National Park Service? Was a third 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: party or whatever. The response I got was forbidden, you 135 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: don't have permission to access this resource, which was the 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: result I got when I submitted the web form. So 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: great great. I don't know. There was no phone number, 138 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: There was only the web form and a mailing address. 139 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: I can only speculate about why the quote about suffrage 140 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that spawned the whole investigation into the Bunker Hill monument 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: was not removed. My speculation is that it was more 142 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: optimistic in its framing, because it was sort of like, 143 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: we don't have suffrage yet, but we're gonna get it, 144 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: and this monument is still ours, and some of the 145 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: other quotes that were supposed to be removed were more critical. Also, 146 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: before I actually went down there, I had thought that 147 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: this episode was going to be just about Operation Pow 148 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: and the anti Vietnam War march that happened. I don't 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: know if that will happen at some point in the future, 150 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: because once I actually saw what that exhibit was trying 151 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: to do, I was like, that's a different story now 152 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: in my head than the Operation POW one. So yeah, 153 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I have lived within five to ten miles of the 154 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Bunker Hill Monument since twenty four and have seen it 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: out the window every time I have gone to the airport, 156 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: and now that I live north of Boston, every time 157 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I go into Boston for some reason, and I had 158 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: just never been down there until they were ordered to 159 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: take down some signs. Then I was like, I gotta 160 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: go see what that's all about. There you go, So yeah, yeah, 161 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: there is no elevator, so the top, walking to the 162 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: top is not accessible to people with mobility issues or 163 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: physical disabilities. But in the lodge down at the bottom, 164 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: there is a big screen that has live camera views 165 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: of the view for me, So like, that's sort of 166 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,479 Speaker 1: the way of trying to make that accessible when it's 167 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: really not possible to put an elevator in there or 168 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: somehow make it not have almost three hundred steps. Yeah, 169 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: that's a good solve. Yeah. Yeah, and the like the 170 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: lodge is accessible and the museum is accessible and has 171 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: elevators also, So yeah, I'm still thinking about Tracy. And 172 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: I had an aside while we were recording, Yeah, after 173 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: recording the Everett quote about how unlike Egyptian, yeah, yeah, 174 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: these would have plaques to explain what they are. And 175 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: my of course off the cuff thing was like, just 176 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: because you can't read hieroglyphics, right, but also those aren't 177 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: the same things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's well. Yeah, and 178 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: when they made the Bunker Hill monument, they intentionally did 179 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: not put words on it. That was part of the 180 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: they they didn't want it. There was a discussion of 181 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: putting like all the names on it or something like that, 182 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and they and then were like, Okay, we're not putting 183 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: any words on this. I also we read the chunk 184 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: of the dedication speech from Daniel Webster that I really 185 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: liked the sentiment of a lot of the speech, but 186 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: the part that saying that it is only religion and 187 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: morals and knowledge that can make men respectable and happy, right, 188 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: that was not something that I personally agreed with. Well, 189 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: it's also that saying right that, like, people who are 190 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: not religious can also have morals. Correct, Yes, if you 191 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: have a religion and your religion brings you happiness and 192 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: you also feel like your morals are informed by your 193 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: religion and that's important to you, I am not criticizing 194 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: that at all. Cool, but yeah, the idea that it 195 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: is only religion and morals and knowledge, I was like, 196 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't like that part, and just snipping that part 197 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: out felt dishonest, and also so much of the rest 198 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: of what we read tied into what I feel like 199 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: the exhibit was trying to do in terms of, like, 200 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: this is not just a monument to a battle that happened, 201 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: it is a monument to the ongoing work of trying 202 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: to have a just and informed and fair society. Like 203 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to include all of that. So I'm also 204 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: sure had we asked him if other religions that weren't 205 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: the one he practiced were cool, he would have been like, 206 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no no no. So obviously 207 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: there's some hubris and presumption involved. Correct. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, 208 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad I made that trip to the Bunker Hill Monument. 209 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea what I am going to research 210 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: next for the podcast. I got to figure it out 211 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: now because I was going to do something that was 212 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: related to the Revolutionary War. But we have had three 213 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: of those in a row from me now, and I 214 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: now feel that, even though it is the two hundred 215 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary that I'm feeling surrounded by two fifty 216 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: stuff living in Massachusetts, I feel personally done with that 217 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: for now. This week on the show, we talked about 218 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Blackwell, a different Elizabeth Blackwell than we have already 219 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: covered on the show. Yeah, so, as I said briefly 220 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: at the start of the show, I heard about this 221 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: person at the Ashmolean Museum at an exhibition about plants 222 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: that was in Oxford. I had made a little plan 223 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: to go to Oxford from where we were staying, which 224 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: was Birmingham, on the train, and then I realized that 225 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: the takes an hour direct trip on the train that 226 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: existed during the week did not in fact exist on 227 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: the weekend. Uh oh, And I then dizzed a lot 228 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: about whether I was actually going to go to Oxford 229 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: because the connecting train added just enough travel time that 230 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: it was like, is this going to feel too cramped 231 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: for a day trip when I would like to be 232 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: back in time for dinner. Since I am here with 233 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: Patrick and friends who are not going with me to Oxford, 234 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: right'd like to be back in time to have dinner 235 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: with them. And I finally decided that if I woke 236 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: up early enough that I could take the earlier train 237 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: and not feel cramped, that I would go. And that 238 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: is what happened. I woke up incredibly early, terrific, and 239 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: then I walked out of the hotel without my hat. 240 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: And I am a person who really likes to have 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: a hat on in the hot, bright, sunny weather. It 242 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: had gotten a little cooler by that point, but I 243 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: have delicate fair skin, and so I want to have 244 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: a hat on. And I had just left the hat 245 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: behind because the room was dark when I left, and 246 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to wake Patrick up turning on the lights, 247 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that it wasn't in my bag. 248 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: So the first place that I went in Oxford was 249 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the Ashmolean Museum and this flower exhibition, and I felt 250 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: it was a huge misstop coportunity in the gift shop 251 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: to not have floppy garden hats, because I would have 252 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: paid any number of dollars at that point for a 253 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: floppy garden hat. Aside from the lack of flappy floppy 254 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: garden hats in the gift shop. It was a really 255 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: lovely and interesting exhibit. It talked about sort of how 256 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: our understanding of plants has evolved over the centuries, different 257 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: art about plants, how like how the effort to collect 258 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: and study plants has had environmental effects, how it's connected 259 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: to colonialism. Some of the last pieces of the exhibition 260 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: were works of art by contemporary artists that were really 261 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: about that. They were about sort of the environmental toll 262 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: that the effort to find and collect and breed plants 263 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: has had, and how in a lot of cases, like 264 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the efforts for Youruropeans or North Americans or whoever to 265 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: get decorative plants for their gardens has robbed the indigenous 266 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: people who originally cultivated and raised those plants of them. 267 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: So it's all very interesting. And that was the first 268 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: of I think five or six museums that I went 269 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: to in one day. Fun I made a route for 270 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: myself ahead of time, so that I would go in 271 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: a loop and not go way out of my way 272 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: like I did in Stratford upon Avin and miss things 273 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,119 Speaker 1: because I was on the wrong side of town. Do 274 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you have I'm trying to figure out how to concoct 275 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,239 Speaker 1: this question because for me, that is too many museums, 276 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: because I'm like, yeah, I got a linger. Yeah, Like 277 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: how do you bake in your linger? Time? So cause 278 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I got to stand there and cry in front of 279 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: art that takes time, right. So a couple of the 280 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: museums that I went to, we're on the smaller side 281 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: of museums. One of them was the Bodleian Library's Weston Library, 282 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: which is the only place that's opened to visit, I think, 283 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: the only one of their libraries that's opened to visitors 284 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: without a booked tour, uneployment or whatever. And I had 285 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: not planned far enough ahead to do that, and so 286 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that is just two exhibitions on the first floor, not 287 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: a whole full sized museum. I went to the History 288 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: of Science Museum, which is also on the smaller side 289 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: of museums, and then in the Ashmolean Museum, which I 290 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: think was probably the biggest of the museums that I 291 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: went to on that day. I had also just been 292 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: to the British Museum. I had been to other museums 293 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: that have a lot of very similar things in their collections, 294 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: and so I really prioritized the galleries that were not 295 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: things that I had just seen of that same era, 296 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that same location, whatever, in a different museum somewhere in 297 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: England a couple of days before. Gotcha, Did you say 298 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: hi to the ghost of Mike at the British Museum? 299 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: I did not. I also didn't see there were things 300 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: that I would have gone to at the British Museum 301 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: had I been planning ahead. The British Museum is also 302 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: where I really hit a wall in terms of how 303 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: tired I was, how hungry I was, and how hot 304 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: I was, and I was like, I need to sit 305 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: down and eat food. Did you go to the qute 306 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: cafe at the top? It was full? Gotcha? So we 307 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: wound up down at the bottom. The Story Museum in 308 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Oxford was a beautiful surprise. I had planned to go 309 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: to three different museums that had things from the Philip 310 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Pullman's His Dark Materials and the HBO adaptation. It turned 311 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: out that one of the museums no longer had those 312 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: things on exhibit, but one of the places that did 313 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: was the Story museum, and I was afraid when I 314 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: went there that I might feel like a weirdo being 315 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: at a children's museum without any children, because some children's museums, 316 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I feel, are great for adults, but some of them 317 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: are geared in such a way that like it's like 318 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: everything is too small for an adult to look at. 319 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, I don't know, I'm short, 320 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't. Yeah. I've found to a lot of 321 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: children's museums and science museums that are like intended for children, 322 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: but sometimes it is like geared so much for almost 323 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: a preschool level of engagement that I feel a little 324 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: like I'm a lot out of place as an adult. Gotcha, gotcha. 325 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: But this museum had interconnected through all of the exhibits 326 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: things that really were geared toward adult readers who love 327 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: children's literature. Yeah, so it felt really welcoming to all ages. 328 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: A lot of things there that were like, you know, 329 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: child sized things where a child can listen to someone 330 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: telling the story, but there's also taller ones where the 331 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: adults are also a included. And the last exhibit at 332 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: the Story Museum was called the Story Arcade, and that 333 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: was a whole exhibit about how storytelling has evolved in 334 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: video games since video games were first created, and I 335 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: got very emotional about it. It was beautiful. None of 336 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: that has anything to do with Elizabeth Blackwell, other than 337 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: the fact that one of the museums I went to 338 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: was the one that inspired this whole episode. So I 339 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: said in the episode that we were going to read 340 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: a paragraph from Bruce James in the Lives of Eminent 341 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: Men of Aberdeen. Oh yeah, yeah. So it's as we 342 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: discussed in the episode, Elizabeth Blackwell was not actually from Aberdeen. 343 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: That was a misinformation that dated back to her lifetime. 344 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: But she is the only woman in that book, Lives 345 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: of Eminent Men of aberde Aberdeen. So here is what 346 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: he said about women writing books. Quote. This may be uncharitable, 347 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: but it is not unnatural. For there is something offensive 348 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: in a woman putting out a book, except on some 349 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: such subject as Missus Blackwell handled, or on dancing or cookery, 350 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: or anything of that kind, which women ought to know 351 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: about and will be the more amiable for their knowledge. 352 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: But when they go the length of writing sonnets, political economy, 353 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: theories of morals, essays on population, systems of chemistry, and 354 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: theological discourses. It is perfectly unbearable. Learned and intellectual women 355 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: have never been in great estimation with the more judicious 356 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: of the other sex. Literary men are seldom agreeable companions, 357 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: but literary ladies are generally allowed to be insufferable. What 358 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: sort of husbands and fathers they are who allow their 359 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: wives and daughters to write for thefication of the public. 360 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: We do not take it upon us to say further 361 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: than that they must have strange notions of what is 362 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: attractive and amiable and becoming in the female sex when 363 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: they do not discourage their literary efforts by every means 364 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: and their power and endeavor to keep them in that 365 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: place in society where they will be least known and 366 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: most happy. This is not being cruel to genius, for 367 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: the light of nature, and the word of God, and 368 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the moral constitution of women all combine to show that 369 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: they are a people who were not sent into this 370 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: world to shine by their own light, but to be 371 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: helpmates to the other division of the human family. And 372 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: the very first instance which the scripture records of a 373 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: woman's advice being taken about the acquirement of knowledge was 374 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: followed by the most disastrous consequences. I have a new 375 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: use for the time machine, but it might not be 376 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: what you anticipate. I just want to pop up in 377 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: his house and go bless your heart and then vanish 378 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: in Pelucipar. Yeah, so's there's just so much in that paragraph, 379 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: and it is simultaneously like to the modern ear, like 380 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: it's hilarious, but like it's also the reality that women 381 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: were living in and what men thought about women and 382 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: their capabilities. And also he felt the need to have 383 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: that whole entire thing in a right up of the 384 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: only woman in his entire book. So I sort of 385 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: hate him. And oh he is also the source of 386 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: various of the misinformation, not the source, but like a 387 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: popularizer of the misinformation. I do have to wonder though, 388 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: which is not to say that women were not going 389 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: through living in a world where a lot of people 390 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: held those beliefs. But it doesn't like she had enough 391 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: support of other men that he's seems like an especially 392 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: extreme blowhard on the matter, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, she 393 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: did have a lot of scientific men and doctors, and 394 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: you know people in the Royal society learned men totally 395 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: fine with what she was doing. Yeah, very ready to 396 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: endorse her book, and then I mean, we've talked about 397 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: a lot of other women on the show who have 398 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: published work from earlier centuries that like have had that 399 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of introduction by a man to add legitimacy to 400 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: what they were doing. Yeah, that sounds like he's trying 401 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: to hedge his bets so that other men don't get 402 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: mad at him for putting a lady in their man book. 403 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: As a side note, another one of the eminent men 404 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: is Alexander Blackwell's brother Thomas Hps listen, funny judgment, a 405 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: little screwy Louie there. Yeah, so a couple of random 406 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: things that I also had on the list to just mention, 407 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: what is the Janet Styles Tyson, who corrected a lot 408 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: if this information about Elizabeth Blackwell's life, According to an 409 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: interview that I read with her, started on the history 410 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: PhD that led to this when she was in her 411 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: mid sixties. Right on. I like to say, yeah, do it. 412 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: If you are in your mid sixties and you want 413 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: to start on a PhD, you have my one hundred 414 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: percent full support. Yes, you know, as someone at the 415 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: age of fifty one who was like, wonder what my 416 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: later years will look like I hope doing something awesome 417 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: like deciding to go get a PhD. As another Just 418 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: a random side note about the herbal is that we 419 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: said plants all the way through the episode. It did 420 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: include some things that people thought were plants at the 421 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: time but are not classified as plants today, which include corals. 422 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: Oh right, fun guy. And I am very curious about 423 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: how many meanings of the word curious don't exist really today, 424 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: like are they're not used to curious is not used 425 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: to me a lot of things that it meant three 426 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. I did not go on a quest 427 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: to see linguistically if there are reasons for how the 428 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: meaning has evolved in that way. Also, something that cracked 429 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: me up was that according to the Oxford Dictionary of 430 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: National Biography, there is quote apparently no surviving copy of 431 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Alexander Blackwell's New method of Improving Cold Wet and Clayey Grounds. 432 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: I put that into the search bar at archive dot 433 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: org and it's there. Huh. So I was not able 434 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: to trace, like to figure out where exactly was this 435 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: volume before archive dot org scanned it, aside from the 436 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: fact that it was on microfilm and was part of 437 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: a big collection of microfilm that was scanned and uploaded 438 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: to archive dot org, so a physical copy might not 439 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: have survived. Yeah, and it's totally possible that whoever wrote 440 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: that entry the last time it was updated, that there 441 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: was no known copy anywhere, because that you know, microfilm 442 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: was sitting somewhere unscanned. But I did find it funny, 443 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: So I have a question. Yeah, did you for any 444 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: period of time consider calling it her curious herbal since 445 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: I know in England they say the H. I did 446 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: not just curious. No. If I had thought about doing it, 447 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I probably would have remembered to do it once. And 448 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: then the remainder of the time said it the way 449 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: I have said it my whole life. Yeah, just singing 450 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: of Eddie Izzard, saying because there's a bleeping H in it, 451 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: there is an H in it. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, 452 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: I had a very good time on the trip to England. 453 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: There are other forthcoming episodes that probably will be inspired 454 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: by the trip to England. Hooray. I emailed myself a 455 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: number of things that were just the name of someone 456 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: or something in the subject line and no other context. 457 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: And then I also took a lot of pictures in 458 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: museums and when I got back to work, I had 459 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: to kind of flip through them because I got to 460 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: this point that like emailing myself from the museums, I 461 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: got kind of tired of. So I would just take 462 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: a picture of the you know, the sign or the 463 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: object or whatever, Yeah, and just flip through all of 464 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: my pictures when I got home to take all that up. 465 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Whatever's happening on your weekend, I hope it's great if 466 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: you want to make yourself a day trip where you 467 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: go to a bunch of museums or a bunch of bookstores. 468 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: I did that this weekend, or just a little adventure. 469 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: I hope you have the greatest adventure if your mind 470 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: is on other things, if your time is required in 471 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: other ways, I hope all of that goes as well 472 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: as it possibly can. 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