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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the best podcast available. Nathan

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Speaker 1: Sagura filling in for Chasing Gibbs today, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by Andrew Gribble and Gribbs. The Browns returning to practice

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Speaker 1: today after that day off no pads put some good

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Speaker 1: work on a perfect day in Maria. Nathan, you have

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Speaker 1: a different definition of perfect than I do. I was

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Speaker 1: I was roasting out there. That was that was hot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was not perfect, but it

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Speaker 1: was sunny. I'll give you that, But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: would say my reaction to that practice was it was

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Speaker 1: maybe the most balanced practice we've seen, and that both

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Speaker 1: sides had big plays. Like I feel like we've had

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Speaker 1: days where it's like a lot of big plays on

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Speaker 1: defense and a lot of big plays on offense. But

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Speaker 1: this was a little bit of both, and I think

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Speaker 1: it gave both sides of the ball like things to

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Speaker 1: work on and then things to look at and be

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Speaker 1: like this works, Like we can we can build off this. Yes,

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Speaker 1: certainly there were big plays on both sides of the

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Speaker 1: ball money Mitch with another interception, But really I think

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Speaker 1: the big sorta we'll get to those big plays in

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Speaker 1: a second, were the returns Miles Garrett and Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 1: Chubb for the first time since the team practiced in

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Speaker 1: pads that first day when he suffered the concussion, and

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Speaker 1: then Myles Garrett that's the first time we've seen him

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Speaker 1: in Maria In. Yeah. I mean it's just I mean,

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Speaker 1: those are your two of your best players. And I

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Speaker 1: think that I was mostly encouraged with with Chubb just

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Speaker 1: because you know, we got spoiled watching Kaream Hunt be like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is not a bad first team running back. And

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Speaker 1: then you see Nick Chubb out there too, and he's

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Speaker 1: really good and he obviously with a concussion, he's not

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Speaker 1: recovering from any leg injury, so he's moving around around

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Speaker 1: just fine. And I think he found a few holes.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this the more you see him

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Speaker 1: offense might be perfect for him in terms of the

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Speaker 1: way he reads cuts and and makes decisions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a good site to see and it's just one

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Speaker 1: of those things where this is when you wish they

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Speaker 1: were maybe tackling or something just to know what really

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Speaker 1: kind of gains he's getting out there. But it looks

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Speaker 1: like a few at least would have been some big

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Speaker 1: gainers out there. It definitely looked like some chunk runs.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that just so

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Speaker 1: impressive about him is second leading rush from the NFL

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Speaker 1: a year ago, and yet he comes out He's finishing

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Speaker 1: every run run in forty yards down the field. Just

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Speaker 1: the work ethic, the attitude he brings, I think is

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Speaker 1: a great example for any young player on this football team.

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Speaker 1: Nick Chub's the guy you probably want to emulate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we heard Stefanski talk after practice about just that

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Speaker 1: he The first thing he credits him on is his

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Speaker 1: work ethic and I think Chubb to me, and this

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Speaker 1: was something that said was said about him last year,

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Speaker 1: but I would say, especially with this year's team, like

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Speaker 1: this is what this team is trying to embody like

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Speaker 1: this is you want so many guys to to be

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Speaker 1: like him. You can't have everyone be as talented as him,

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Speaker 1: but you can have everyone kind of emulate what he

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Speaker 1: he's just kind of your model citizen and just happens

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Speaker 1: to be one of your best players. Also, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: one of your best players on the team, maybe one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. Miles Garrett returned

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Speaker 1: to action and immediately made his presence felt with a

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Speaker 1: led Baker Mayfield trying to make a throw that was

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Speaker 1: intercepted by b J. Goodson. But Garrett came back and

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Speaker 1: it looked like he hadn't missed a beat. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there to you. The most interesting

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Speaker 1: where he lined up. I mean he was he was.

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Speaker 1: You saw Olivia is still going up against Jedrick Wills,

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Speaker 1: and then Miles was there on the right side going

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Speaker 1: up against Jack Conklin. And that's just gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: you you see them those guys lining up at both

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Speaker 1: spots this year. Absolutely, And it was also the first

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Speaker 1: Miles and Clayborne all on the field together. And we

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Speaker 1: saw a little bit of that along with Sheldon Richardson

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Speaker 1: poised to I think have a monster season. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I think we probably would have seen a little bit

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Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and it's it's good to see him back,

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Speaker 1: and we we miles miles value increased last year when

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Speaker 1: you saw what this defense was like without him, and

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Speaker 1: when you see him out there, you almost take it

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Speaker 1: defense and everything kind of rotates around what he's able

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Speaker 1: to do because he truly changes game plans for the offense,

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Speaker 1: no question. Yes, those two back. That's probably the biggest

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Speaker 1: news of the day. Also, Kevin Johnson being released from

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Speaker 1: the hospital for that lascerated liberal was released on Friday.

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Speaker 1: He is gonna be week to week as it stands

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Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, but just happy to hear that

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Speaker 1: he is out of the hospital. Now. You mentioned today

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Speaker 1: I think this was the first day where he said

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Speaker 1: there was you know, good on both sides offense and defense. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we start with the defensive side of the ball. Money Mitch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every single year, the guy all he does

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Speaker 1: is make plays. Even last year when he would get

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Speaker 1: to find him. It did again today another interception. One

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Speaker 1: of the biggest questions I have following the injury to

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Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson Gribbs, is are they're gonna try to find

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Speaker 1: a way to get money Mitch on the field with

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Speaker 1: Denzel and Greedy, because that seems like your three best corners.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about m J. Stewart in a second, but

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Speaker 1: so far we haven't seen that at all, as all

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Speaker 1: seems like it's been kind of a situation that has

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Speaker 1: come up a lot the last couple of years, like

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Speaker 1: their strength is clearly working on the outside, but they're

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Speaker 1: be thinking about. I'm sure Joe Woods is looking at this,

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Speaker 1: I do think it'd be great to see Kevin Johnson

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Speaker 1: He kept making play and I saw him he was

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Speaker 1: don't think much of it. And now he's a former

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Speaker 1: money Mitch for the depth outside. Yeah, it's it's one

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Speaker 1: It's like when you draft a guy in the second round,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's like there's there's the bigger

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Speaker 1: Maybe was it seven years ago with Barkibious Mingo didn't

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Speaker 1: that fresh start to kind of find your role within

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Speaker 1: a team. And clearly MJ. Stewart has the talent and

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Speaker 1: Mack Wilson, looks significantly. We were asked on Brown's Live Today,

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Speaker 1: been lay up for Kareem Hunt. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: was mixing it up. Yeah, I think it was just

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Speaker 1: And I think that people kind of forget that he

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Speaker 1: but the Browns need him too because you don't have

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Speaker 1: enough options at that linebacker spot. Jason Tarber told me

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Speaker 1: it's showing so far in Maria. Now as we flipped

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Speaker 1: to the offensive side, we talked about some big place today.

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Speaker 1: Nick Chobb had a few big runs, so did Kareem,

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