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Speaker 1: Last week on Quest Love Supreme, Greg Philin Gains took
Speaker 1: us on a journey through his career for auditioning for
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder's band fresh out of high school to work
Speaker 1: with the Jackson's during the Destiny and Triumph years, and
Speaker 1: he left. Greg he was telling us how he got
Speaker 1: jack for his right is credit for ten percent of
Speaker 1: the publishing royalties for Michael Jackson's Don't Stop Team Get Enough.
Speaker 1: And he also said there was a Quincy Jones version
Speaker 1: of that story too. So it's part two of the
Speaker 1: special Greg Phillin Gaines edition of Quest Love Supreme. Here
Speaker 1: we go. So you know it's the zo well amir
Speaker 1: angerwez hunter Weed.
Speaker 2: No oh no no no no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no, not that. There's something a lot more subtle. Oprah,
Speaker 2: huh no no no, no no. You're never gonna get it.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get it. I'm going to set it
Speaker 2: up for you because you're never going to get it.
Speaker 2: The setup is this, it's good in it. You're having
Speaker 2: fun with it. You want to do another one. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. The thing is this. So it's
Speaker 2: me and it's Neil stupid House and I want to
Speaker 2: say Paul Jackson Junior. And I'm not sure, but I
Speaker 2: think so. And I'm pretty sure it's j R. On drums.
Speaker 2: We're in the studio and we're just vibing, you know,
Speaker 2: we're just right about here. We're vibing, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's a nice little thing going on. We're just flying,
Speaker 2: you know. Quincy's like, hey, all right, you know, you
Speaker 2: know we're just vibing, and this vibe is being recorded,
Speaker 2: you know, right about here. And Okay, some time passes,
Speaker 2: and I don't mean hours, I don't mean days. I
Speaker 2: mean some time. And now Quincy's working on.
Speaker 1: I think I figured it out.
Speaker 2: I believe so, I believe so wait wait wait, wait,
Speaker 2: wait before you all say anything about so. And he says, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, we're doing this thing, and I want to
Speaker 2: I want to recreate that groove thing, you know. I
Speaker 2: want to recreate that thing that's right about this temple
Speaker 2: right here. And so if you think you know what
Speaker 2: what is the song secret Jams? Oh damn, I had
Speaker 2: the wrong oneard bing wow, thank you okay, and as okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: damn oh, there's a story for everything. There's a story
Speaker 2: for everything. So it's like, I love Quincy's dirty draws.
Speaker 2: But he never he would never admit that, because, you
Speaker 2: know what, I asked Hi about it one day He's like,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about a long time ago? I
Speaker 2: asked him, and he reared up at me, like what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: Damn heart.
Speaker 2: So after that joint, it's pretty stupid.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I was just no.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the here's here's the thing. The thing
Speaker 2: is this. I I was too busy being hurt. I
Speaker 2: was too busy being emotionally affected, as opposed to saying,
Speaker 2: oh hell with this, I'm fighting this. But really, are
Speaker 2: you really prepared to fight Michael Michael Jackson for a
Speaker 2: piece of a song with Michael and his his his
Speaker 2: team of lawyers.
Speaker 1: Are you really gonna do?
Speaker 2: You really think you're gonna like succeed in that and
Speaker 2: have a freaking prayer? So what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And so I had to suck it up. But what
Speaker 2: I lost in look ten percent? Please, I'd be living
Speaker 2: next to Quincy with ten of that one song. So
Speaker 2: but you know what I lost in revenue, I'd like
Speaker 2: to think I gained in a relationship because it went
Speaker 2: from that. And by the way, it ain't just that.
Speaker 1: What else you got?
Speaker 2: Oh? How about did did the did the did the
Speaker 2: end of Heartbreak Hotel play itself? It's beautiful thank You,
Speaker 2: which was orchestrated double with because Michael said, we need
Speaker 2: say dramatic here at the end, So I came up
Speaker 2: with that and then they added an orchestra to that too.
Speaker 3: Did you start after this? Do you start looking around
Speaker 3: when you're just jamming and making sure the button and push?
Speaker 2: Because I'm too busy being inspired because it happened so
Speaker 2: quick for me. Literally, when Michael said we need some
Speaker 2: dramatic here at the end before you get finish the
Speaker 2: Jeopardy theme song, I think I just go, yes, I
Speaker 2: get it, okay? Oh but no?
Speaker 1: And there what else you got?
Speaker 2: So now it's the dangerous Is it dangerous? It's dangerous?
Speaker 2: I think it's the dangerous album. I think it's a
Speaker 2: dangerous album. It's a dangerous album. And we're working on
Speaker 2: this one song and Michael says, beautiful song by the
Speaker 2: way beautiful, and he says, what gonna do here is
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna talk kind of like a monologue thing,
Speaker 2: and I just want something. I want some music underneath because.
Speaker 1: In the closet, in the closet the world m hm.
Speaker 2: And I just need so I need some music because
Speaker 2: it's gonna be dramatic and and I'm gonna talk talk
Speaker 2: talk through this thing at the end of it, you know,
Speaker 2: And so I just need some music. So I said, okay,
Speaker 2: no problem, any takers.
Speaker 1: Well he talks on dangerous for you know, Mama, is
Speaker 1: it is? It?
Speaker 2: Is? It?
Speaker 1: Is it? What was the it's not here? The world?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: That will be there? What will you be there? Think?
Speaker 2: At the end at the WHI was double with orchestra
Speaker 2: and choir.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That is about another three minutes, if I'm not mistaken, somewhere.
Speaker 1: To three on that free Willie money. Yeah. So can
Speaker 1: I ask a questions?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: So can you explain to the listener who may not
Speaker 4: know that intricacies of of of what your what your
Speaker 4: jobs were at these at these sessions. So can you
Speaker 4: just explain the difference like when when arranging becomes writing
Speaker 4: and when when associate producing becomes composed to.
Speaker 2: See if I love to explain that, except there's such
Speaker 2: a fine line, as such a slippery slope. It's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to define because basically this is the equivalent
Speaker 2: of beauties in the eye of the of the beholder.
Speaker 2: Well arrangings then the in the eye of the who
Speaker 2: deems you are an arranger as opposed to a songwriter,
Speaker 2: as opposed to just an arranger, as opposed to just
Speaker 2: a little keyboard player that we're gonna give a check
Speaker 2: one time to and send him on his way because
Speaker 2: I want all the credit, right.
Speaker 4: So ultimately those things come down to whether you are
Speaker 4: going to stand up for it.
Speaker 2: It comes down to either whether you're going to stand
Speaker 2: up and fight it or if it's mutually agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mutually agreed in writing. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: someone been like hey, by the way, and then they
Speaker 1: didn't get a call back? Like have you ever seen
Speaker 1: someone get black bald or not used again or mess
Speaker 1: with that guy he's in trouble maker? Yeah? Nothing specific,
Speaker 1: But is there a way to be x Nate and
Speaker 1: black bald from Because you're in a sweet spot, you
Speaker 1: keep getting work, and you keep getting work and you
Speaker 1: keep like you're on. I mean between ninety seven you're
Speaker 1: on everything I know.
Speaker 2: But I mean whenever I would try to raise a
Speaker 2: little dust, I always got pushed back. I mean, there
Speaker 2: was the time when what was it, uh it was
Speaker 2: Triumph and and I was I was, I was classified
Speaker 2: as an associate producer. Well I think wait, wait, wait
Speaker 2: things things things went on and on and on and
Speaker 2: on and on, and things were fine until one day
Speaker 2: I show up to the studio and Bill Bray standing
Speaker 2: outside the door. He says, I don't need you today, Bubble.
Speaker 2: What I'm like, what are you talking about? I gotta
Speaker 2: go and just don't need you today, Bubble. They just
Speaker 2: decided that I was done. Wow did because no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I did nothing The day before I went into work.
Speaker 2: Everything was fine. The next day I go and I'm barred.
Speaker 4: Sometimes people bar because.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: They just decided they could take it over from there
Speaker 2: and they did not need Yeah, they didn't need my
Speaker 2: assistants anymore. So they just said, okay, you're done by
Speaker 2: Can I ask?
Speaker 1: All right? So my question about Triumph Engineering one.
Speaker 2: I do have. I do have a positive punchline story
Speaker 2: to the end, up to finish a set, But you
Speaker 2: know you want to ask.
Speaker 1: Well, just the the engineering of the Triumph album. It
Speaker 1: sounds very flat to me as opposed to how wide
Speaker 1: open Destiny was. And I no, no, why I really
Speaker 1: need you to tell me a really good uh uh
Speaker 1: engineering story of of Bruce Wardeen, what Bruce Median brought
Speaker 1: to off the Wall.
Speaker 2: It's like, goodness, it almost it's like it's like three D.
Speaker 1: Almost who did the same with this with the same
Speaker 1: Do you remember who mixed the.
Speaker 2: Trump I don't, but the same people were not involved.
Speaker 2: And I I kind of understand what you're saying sonically,
Speaker 2: but I just can't tell you why I'm not because
Speaker 2: I don't remember who was involved.
Speaker 1: So you weren't there for the overseeing of the mixing
Speaker 1: and none of that stuff, no question. Yeah, those sessions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounded really fun because they It's almost to the point
Speaker 1: where I could tell almost what order was recorded because
Speaker 1: some of them songs you did the majority of the
Speaker 1: count off one, two, three, four, and then some of
Speaker 1: them songs, you guys sound like you were on your
Speaker 1: fiftieth beer. I mean not that, but just sound like
Speaker 1: so what were the just the the sessions, like I mean.
Speaker 2: I the best way I could describe it is fun.
Speaker 2: Everybody there was so much and how do you how
Speaker 2: do you learn this stuff? Like how does it come from?
Speaker 1: Here's the cassette demo and da da da da, Like
Speaker 1: do you get the cassette first? And do you work
Speaker 1: out these full fleshed arrangements? And how long we.
Speaker 2: Would well, we would hear the demo in some form,
Speaker 2: and then after I came up with the arrangement, I
Speaker 2: was just we had charts. I have a chart. It's
Speaker 2: actually my wife insisted that I frame the chart to
Speaker 2: blame it on the book, and so it's over. It's
Speaker 2: over at the piano in the house. So we had
Speaker 2: charts and I would just dole out the parts. But
Speaker 2: it was it was heck of fun. It was just
Speaker 2: so much fun, fun fun. I remember, and I think
Speaker 2: it was during the Destiny album. I remember being in
Speaker 2: the studio part and uh, we were you know, there
Speaker 2: wasn't anything going on officially, It's just kind of different
Speaker 2: things happening at the same time, just stuff going on.
Speaker 2: But I remember hearing somebody playing drums and it was
Speaker 2: really funky. It was just like this thing and I
Speaker 2: remember peering around and it was Michael.
Speaker 1: He could play drums.
Speaker 2: He could play drumshow. Most people do not know this,
Speaker 2: but if you think about it made perfect sense because
Speaker 2: like Sammy, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: so he could definitely play and he was fun and
Speaker 2: it was I only saw it one time, but I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, as a matter of fact, I maybe
Speaker 2: there's a picture of an even younger Michael playing drums
Speaker 2: and I have it said, do you have seen that?
Speaker 2: But no, I saw him for myself and it was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is I didn't. I didn't see this coming.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We didn't even get to like thriller and.
Speaker 3: Off the wall, I'm waiting for.
Speaker 1: Give you.
Speaker 2: Let me give you the positive punchline to all this
Speaker 2: negativity because laias as I was saying what I lost
Speaker 2: in revenue, I gained a relationship to the point where,
Speaker 2: you know, there was this one faithful evening where we
Speaker 2: were all together, uh in this room, backstage, in this arena,
Speaker 2: and uh, we were all together outside of Michael. I
Speaker 2: went to his room separately, but I'm standing up with
Speaker 2: the brothers in a circle, and I remember saying to them,
Speaker 2: you know what, never in my wildest dreams. Did I
Speaker 2: ever think after, you know, listening to your records junior
Speaker 2: high school, watching your shows. I never ever imagined in
Speaker 2: my life that I'd be standing in a room with
Speaker 2: all of you as your music director, getting ready to
Speaker 2: tell you to have a great show. And it was
Speaker 2: backstage in Madison Square Garden and we were about to
Speaker 2: do the thirtieth anniversary shows.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And to go from that point early in my life
Speaker 2: as a fan and having just fantasies about them and
Speaker 2: what it must be like to hang with them, to
Speaker 2: actually be arm in arm with them in a huddle
Speaker 2: before we start the thirtieth anniversary shows and I get
Speaker 2: to tell them have a great one. I can't begin
Speaker 2: to tell you what that's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sense of balance in your system is amazing,
Speaker 3: because at the same time, it's like, here you are
Speaker 3: in that moment, but these are still the same guys
Speaker 3: and may do a couple of shit any things to you,
Speaker 3: So you have to continue to be the bigger person
Speaker 3: and really disappreciate the moment and the bigger things that
Speaker 3: are yet to come.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. All I can say is that you know,
Speaker 2: the thing that that one over everything else was love
Speaker 2: and we all realized that we really do love each other.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm not done the technical lyric questions over here, like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me ruin this for a second. So we want
Speaker 1: to be starting something. Are you playing the synth bass
Speaker 1: the line? Yep? Now with sequencing out then? Or did
Speaker 1: you have to do that seven minutes in a row? No?
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 1: There was a tape looping.
Speaker 2: I need a sticking sequence.
Speaker 1: Come on, But look, dude, y'all, y'all were playing with
Speaker 1: a len drum. So you're telling me for seven minutes? Yeah, seth,
Speaker 1: and then it's in a robe.
Speaker 2: Because I was young and crazy like that.
Speaker 1: How many punchings did you have to do?
Speaker 2: Not many?
Speaker 1: Dog?
Speaker 2: No, dude, because I I I graduated. Wonder you.
Speaker 5: Oh well, it's like Jimmy jam when he said when
Speaker 5: he would play all the stuff from the twelve Yeah,
Speaker 5: straight through and they went to the School of Princess.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Okay, it makes sense. No,
Speaker 1: I just just now, I'm just thinking of all, like
Speaker 1: even you didn't veer off into one ad lib and
Speaker 1: shake your right down to the ground like the last minute.
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. That's not true. You gotta I I, well, okay,
Speaker 2: I have, Yeah, I had, but I past it to
Speaker 2: that to your point, yes, I definitely paste it.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, you know.
Speaker 2: And another thing is another example of that is, uh,
Speaker 2: don't stop. I paced those legs too. I mean I
Speaker 2: I kept basically. Oh. An even better example is Thriller.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to get to. Yeah, oh you
Speaker 1: already answered. You're not sequencing, so you're playing the stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, How are you finding these patches because now that
Speaker 1: I okay, now that the remixes are coming out, yeah,
Speaker 1: Thriller is almost borderline a pre pre precursor to E.
Speaker 1: D M, at least with the patches that you're using.
Speaker 1: Like how long do you That's what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 2: And well, you know, we we had lots of help
Speaker 2: as far as programming. We had guys like that were
Speaker 2: we had Michael Bodacker, he was like on call. That
Speaker 2: was that was our our our go to guy, and
Speaker 2: there were others.
Speaker 1: But was he was he more of a tech guy
Speaker 1: or an anglayer because he was playing on the desk.
Speaker 1: He played, but he programmed better.
Speaker 2: But he Yeah, the the the strength, I would say,
Speaker 2: was the.
Speaker 1: Program So but was it a time is money atmosphere?
Speaker 1: So okay, so we're in the studio.
Speaker 2: Right, No, it was whatever it takes to get the
Speaker 2: right down.
Speaker 1: Okay, But what's the patience factor, cause it's like even okay,
Speaker 1: so even the the little like right before Vincent Price's
Speaker 1: wrap thing, how long do you have to like, let
Speaker 1: me try this, let me try this even with keyboards today,
Speaker 1: like it takes me twenty minutes to decide and this
Speaker 1: stuff was already pre set. What's the what's the time? Like,
Speaker 1: what time do you have to think of something cool?
Speaker 1: They have mere minutes? No, there was no time, There
Speaker 1: was no what it was right then? Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: no consideration of time. It's just like Lily, I need
Speaker 1: this patch, go, I need I need this sound rather
Speaker 1: go and then however long it took.
Speaker 2: Was however long it took?
Speaker 1: Are you playing on beat it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is that intro? Gog? What is that noise? What
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: I could not tell you if you have me a
Speaker 2: good point.
Speaker 1: It's oh god, it's I saw YouTube video.
Speaker 5: It's an old obviously an old synthesizer and they were
Speaker 5: going through the presets on it and that was one
Speaker 5: of them. Really not not I can't remember. I can't remember.
Speaker 5: It's been a while since I saw that video.
Speaker 2: But okay, no, I I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Bro, human nature? Is that the patron all those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's deep Carlo, Okay, they didn't need me for that,
Speaker 2: my man. You know the story about that song, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: listening to because that's at nauseum and then they're like
Speaker 2: falling asleep and stuff, and it's it's the auto end
Speaker 2: of the auto reverse and then you know, and they're
Speaker 2: like in a semi sleep state.
Speaker 1: I was sudden, what is that?
Speaker 2: Rest is history?
Speaker 5: It was just in clavier, by the way, Okay that
Speaker 5: they I kind.
Speaker 1: Of remember that now it's clavier too, Okay. One hundred
Speaker 1: Ways is one of our favorite sis. You guys, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna understand it, but in hip hop terms, really,
Speaker 1: that's all I can say. Yes, it's it's been shopped
Speaker 1: lovely to the point where like almost every line of
Speaker 1: that thing is the solo. Yeah, it means in the
Speaker 1: world to us. It was done in an ironic I
Speaker 1: think it was done in a very ironic way. But
Speaker 1: but it's just you mus play it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's yeah, I mean the song has been
Speaker 1: out for forever. Yeah, wait, what's the title of it?
Speaker 1: Times like that? Yeah, this is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6: Really yoo, y'all can't stand right here in his right
Speaker 6: hand was your Man's worst night Man, loud enough to
Speaker 6: bust right, it's on close.
Speaker 2: Strange.
Speaker 1: The game is not only danger.
Speaker 2: What is the most strange? So robs like Tom the Too,
Speaker 2: bombs like you just happy to see me? Trick, classical
Speaker 2: snapstick rappers, chapstick a lot of them, so like the
Speaker 2: talents so so a little something to remember, like the
Speaker 2: Halimalah joke, like Space Game came back from five?
Speaker 3: What do you say this?
Speaker 2: This has never heard?
Speaker 1: This song is like twenty years old. But what see,
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's never heard. That's my first time.
Speaker 1: He here in this I've never one hundred ways means
Speaker 1: something totally different to us. Like initially it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's mom and dad song, are like yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: easily no, but he that Yeah he turned it, And
Speaker 1: even when I heard it, I was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: never ever thought to be shocked.
Speaker 2: And it's a crazy person who did that? Yes, whole
Speaker 2: lot of time on that she did and who actually
Speaker 2: produced that m F doom. You're a crazy guy. You're crazy, bro.
Speaker 1: He is so well.
Speaker 2: Did Quincy tell you the story of that solo?
Speaker 1: He told you, like he woke you up out of
Speaker 1: your sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was during the time of assembly line uh sessions.
Speaker 2: And you when you went to work for Quincy, you
Speaker 2: knew two things.
Speaker 1: No, you knew.
Speaker 2: You knew three things. A. It was gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: B you were gonna eat well. And see you never
Speaker 2: knew how long you were gonna be. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's no o'clock in the morning, man, and I had
Speaker 2: done some other stuff and at this point I'm asleep
Speaker 2: under a piano. Somebody came in and woke me and said,
Speaker 2: all right, you're up again. Okay, I in my stupor
Speaker 2: you know, I stumble up to the thing and it's
Speaker 2: a mini moog and the and Quincy says, right, so
Speaker 2: this is one hundred ways and we need a solo.
Speaker 2: Go that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Does he play you the full Does he play you the.
Speaker 2: Full song at least before yeah, I mean the pay
Speaker 2: they play. Yeah, they played the song and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: so what you hear in that solo? Like ninety percent
Speaker 2: of it was the first take, and I only did so,
Speaker 2: you know, And then I only did like a couple
Speaker 2: of takes to finish it. But up until that point,
Speaker 2: that's the first take. And and and Quincy to this
Speaker 2: day says it's his favorite solo mine because it was
Speaker 2: done in the what he calls the alpha state. What's
Speaker 2: what's known as the alpha state, because you know, only
Speaker 2: he can like be scientific with it. I was asleep,
Speaker 2: but you know he said, no, dude, it's the alpha state,
Speaker 2: alpha state, because you weren't thinking, dude, do you all.
Speaker 1: Know about this? There's there's this. There's a scientist that
Speaker 1: did a research on her students, onner students, in which
Speaker 1: she would do pop quizzes on her seven a m
Speaker 1: class versus prepared test advanced notice to her smarter class
Speaker 1: at twelve in the afternoon, and we did better because
Speaker 1: it's almost like there's there's a middle ground of not
Speaker 1: preparing and over preparing and overthinking, and the genius zone
Speaker 1: is always in the middle where it's just like, no, that's.
Speaker 2: Supreme, y, he thrit. His goal is to be in
Speaker 2: that state constantly.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I that's where I was. And again,
Speaker 2: it only took like three takes or so for me
Speaker 2: to finish, for me to finish, but that that's just
Speaker 2: the first thing that came out.
Speaker 1: I have a question about the bad album. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I guess I shared this theory in the documentary. It's
Speaker 1: what I call the brace Yourself moment, which you're a
Speaker 1: big part of. Like all these songs have to start
Speaker 1: with this stab from hell, this chord, well not even bad.
Speaker 1: I mean that's probably easy patch, but like you know,
Speaker 1: like Dirty Diana's and that, Like by this point, are
Speaker 1: they telling you, Okay, Greg, every song on this album
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 2: Well, no, because that really wasn't me. That wasn't no
Speaker 2: those amples he said it like with first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm not on Dirty Diana. I'm not on that at all.
Speaker 2: Another part of me. And actually I'm not on that either.
Speaker 2: Speed Demon way you make me feel. I'm on the
Speaker 2: way you make me feel. I'm not on Speed Demon. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: That's Jerry Hey, that's crazy Jerry Hay with those horns,
Speaker 2: those horn and that's what made the song. You know that, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's Jerry had to get tied up for
Speaker 2: that because you know, Michael was a little uh, you know,
Speaker 2: slow on that and it was like quick. It was
Speaker 2: like oh no, no, no, no, no no. There would be
Speaker 2: no speed Demon without that the horn horns arrangement. So
Speaker 2: you're gonna tighten up, Jerry, you know, but I am
Speaker 2: on the way it made me feel. And my favorite
Speaker 2: memory of that is, you know, because I played the
Speaker 2: string parts.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So what I remember is doing that and having Michael
Speaker 2: standing next to me going vibe women because I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's like, next movie dude.
Speaker 1: That was How big is this his snaps? Dude?
Speaker 2: He had the big I know, he had these big
Speaker 2: ass hands. And his snaps sound like claves, don't they? Yes,
Speaker 2: because you think it's clove is on the bridge of
Speaker 2: uh rock with You? Yeah, but it's not. No. And
Speaker 2: when that's his fingers, it's his fingers.
Speaker 1: Wait? Can I ask for Rock with You?
Speaker 2: Yea? Who?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I should have asked Quincy instead. That
Speaker 1: horn intro, oh, the one that got removed? Why did
Speaker 1: they take that away? It doesn't make sense to me?
Speaker 1: What is It's just there's a horn intro to Rock
Speaker 1: with You that got me. Here's the thing that I
Speaker 1: love about off the Wall. Well, I certainly remember that
Speaker 1: I'll play for you off the record. Yeah, because Yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing that I discovered about with Thrilling off the
Speaker 1: Wall is that a lot of this stuff is I
Speaker 1: can tell that at least what I assume the relationship
Speaker 1: between Michael and Quincy is, let's try every idea out
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna trust me to pull this away
Speaker 1: in this way and edit this and edit that. So
Speaker 1: there are a lot of elements on those albums that
Speaker 1: had they been there, oh god, it would have been
Speaker 1: like the worst dated disco album of all time, or
Speaker 1: you know, that crazy one slight misstep. So I applaud
Speaker 1: Quincy for knowing what the pool was, but that's his brilliance.
Speaker 1: There's the moments of okay, so I'm thinking that you
Speaker 1: were there on the ground floor of the horn intro
Speaker 1: instead of just the naked.
Speaker 2: No, because what I remember about that was Quincy saying
Speaker 2: to they are I want to have a drum leg
Speaker 2: that's gonna live in infamy. I want to have a
Speaker 2: drum like that that that kids are gonna remember, you know,
Speaker 2: one hundred years from now. And so he came over it.
Speaker 3: That was that bad question. Please tell me that by
Speaker 3: this time you went on the tour and you and
Speaker 3: Ricky were back together.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: Now did Ricky get that gig and non Jonathan Moffatt
Speaker 1: because you were the empty.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Because I thought like Jonathan would have been the tax
Speaker 1: for life?
Speaker 2: Yeah you think that.
Speaker 1: So how did Ricky get it? Well, Ricky also had
Speaker 1: the Victory tour, right.
Speaker 2: No, no, that was Jonathan on the Victory Okay, Ricky
Speaker 2: did bad and dangerous, But you did with Sheryl Crow.
Speaker 2: Oh my what? And what were you three?
Speaker 1: You mad woman's life?
Speaker 2: Yes, you could have been more than five. Please. Okay,
Speaker 2: so still I still have so you please? And so
Speaker 2: I don't remember, to be honest, because even though you know,
Speaker 2: he made me the m D and that whole process
Speaker 2: was so weird, he there were other people hiring people,
Speaker 2: so I didn't really hire everybody. So I I didn't
Speaker 2: hire the whole band. I mean, there are certain people
Speaker 2: that were chosen before I was even asked.
Speaker 1: How did you present that show without the out of
Speaker 1: the age of pro tools? You know, because.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh well that's easy. We just had. We just
Speaker 2: had like was it to at least two full blown
Speaker 2: since clapt is damn and.
Speaker 1: Back then that was.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was like whatever by any means necessary.
Speaker 2: I mean, the money was no object and so we
Speaker 2: had like too full blown.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean because that was vocals.
Speaker 2: And and the the you know, the the extra tracks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely damn.
Speaker 1: What was it like when Cheryl Croke came into the
Speaker 1: picture for that tour? Like, what was what did she
Speaker 1: bring to the table? Whiteness?
Speaker 3: Because she wasn't the one with the lights in her hair?
Speaker 2: No, No, that was Jennifer Adams. She she was the guitarist.
Speaker 2: You know, you asked a very loaded questioned my friend okay,
Speaker 2: uh this gig first, because no, she was after that
Speaker 2: was excited, it dangerous. Cheryl did bad. I would say
Speaker 2: that the thing that Cheryl brought them most of us
Speaker 2: the silence.
Speaker 1: The silence here is this a hot topic?
Speaker 2: That something I said Steve.
Speaker 3: The white person about single Uh No.
Speaker 2: What she brought was a secret love affair.
Speaker 3: Here in my god it oh.
Speaker 2: Well between two people and I was the other one.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Greig cam like you can sniff. No, that
Speaker 1: was Fante's question.
Speaker 3: Would you got to say, Fanta, perfect question?
Speaker 1: No, man, hey, listen, I guess you talking.
Speaker 2: I guess you don't like that coming.
Speaker 3: Well you missed.
Speaker 1: Wow, he's probably in the control room right now.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't good because I was married.
Speaker 7: Ayah, he said, okay, how can you, okay, explain not
Speaker 7: just the tour, darling.
Speaker 2: I was explain that it wasn't just the name of
Speaker 2: a tour.
Speaker 1: How can how can one can one be a working musician,
Speaker 1: uh and have domestic normalcy? I mean, if you're doing
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson Bad Tour, are you know what about
Speaker 1: the kids at home for it? Not just you just
Speaker 1: like the bass player or the lighting coordinator like you
Speaker 1: guys were going from from eighty seven to the top
Speaker 1: of January eighty nine.
Speaker 2: No, understand, we rule the world. Understand that.
Speaker 1: Yes, but.
Speaker 2: We're girls flinging themselves over all of us, not over
Speaker 2: all of us. And I was in that group. I
Speaker 2: wasn't getting girls flung at me, you know, because a
Speaker 2: lot of people just assume, oh my god, you must say,
Speaker 2: had it shipping out of your ears? And I no, no,
Speaker 2: it did not happen to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it from that perspective. But I just meant, like,
Speaker 1: if you have a relationship at home, like if you're
Speaker 1: your college professor, wife is at home.
Speaker 2: It's very, very difficult and you better bring him out
Speaker 2: at some point or like.
Speaker 1: Would Michaelow like when he charged jet for families to
Speaker 1: come and visit.
Speaker 2: He didn't do that, but he did welcome families. He
Speaker 2: was into that. And you know, several of us, including me,
Speaker 2: brought our families out at different points. I mean, and
Speaker 2: you know Michael, you know one of the singers Dori
Speaker 2: and Holly brought his little nana and she spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time on the road with us. And you
Speaker 2: know Ricky brought his kids, uh and his wife, I
Speaker 2: brought mine out. It was great in that way. Uh now,
Speaker 2: well not in my case, and uh yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: mean I remember when we when we we were in
Speaker 2: Tokyo and uh he he arranged for us to all
Speaker 2: go to Disneyland. We shut down the partment and it
Speaker 2: was us. And you haven't lived until you've been to
Speaker 2: Disneyland with the had Mickey. A matter of fact, I
Speaker 2: used to call him Mickey and he would answer to
Speaker 2: that too. But no, he it was great and so yes,
Speaker 2: he loved uh you know, the family's uh hanging and
Speaker 2: all that. But uh to answer the question. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: needed to have You couldn't sustain a tour like that
Speaker 2: and never see your spouse of your family at any point.
Speaker 2: You had to have him join you.
Speaker 1: Easier now with FaceTime and all that stuff. But it
Speaker 1: is like going like it's a wrap like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going, like you're doing you're in the military.
Speaker 3: It's like you're you're gone.
Speaker 1: We did not even ask behind the mask, Yeah, behind
Speaker 1: the mask.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I was working on my second solo album
Speaker 2: while working on Yeah, while we were also doing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, we're just all over the place. Reminded.
Speaker 5: Donald did right by you? Oh for Cancelor down.
Speaker 1: Never mind?
Speaker 2: No, no, well he he did basically, Yeah, he did well.
Speaker 2: He did better than me than Michael did, that's for sure, right.
Speaker 1: Or did you do all night long?
Speaker 2: And no? No, no, no, no here, let me give
Speaker 2: you level. No, no, he actually did all night long
Speaker 2: by himself. But I did uh level of find level,
Speaker 2: find away and level conquer all and I thank you
Speaker 2: very much a crazy video and and I did get
Speaker 2: you know, credit and checks for that conquer Oh oh crap,
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name right now. I see her
Speaker 2: face and I can't remember her name. I always thought that.
Speaker 1: Was his take on the Al Green song like that
Speaker 1: was love of con Girl. Interesting, No, that's what it
Speaker 1: sounds might sound like that.
Speaker 2: Well I didn't because well, I tell you what, I
Speaker 2: wasn't well, not really, because I wasn't. I wasn't thinking
Speaker 2: of that. That wasn't God, that's interesting because I wasn't
Speaker 2: thinking that at all. Oh well, okay, mar mar Marvia,
Speaker 2: thank you, yes, Princess Mark well later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I keep getting hurt. Marva Hicks confused, Okay.
Speaker 1: James Brown, right, that was Yeah, a lot of marvels.
Speaker 2: When I see to join usteve.
Speaker 3: Th miss it was you missed it. It was a
Speaker 3: good news. It wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: You'll hear that you playing that's good?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, so Lionel did you right right to
Speaker 2: by me?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: This on his first solo album, right yeah, And that
Speaker 5: was where I first saw your name four yeah, that's
Speaker 5: crazy and.
Speaker 1: Then left during the line of Richie portion and when
Speaker 1: that's that's all you.
Speaker 4: Live the first one, the first line of Richie you
Speaker 4: are You're on that question.
Speaker 3: The intro to you areious.
Speaker 2: This right now? First of all, I'm not on that
Speaker 2: but what what you said? It was like, it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: if you don't come back, if you leave, But you
Speaker 2: sound like that was.
Speaker 1: Some kind of movie.
Speaker 2: Was like the guy goes No. I was like an
Speaker 2: s n L.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that he did. That was cool? That
Speaker 1: show Okay, but yeah, serves you right? That was that
Speaker 1: was mister.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I wrote that with very mysterious John McLean. Yes,
Speaker 2: oh wow, wow, so.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. There's some more John McClean credits that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I've seen and I didn't think that was him. He
Speaker 1: was a songwriter. First, Well we wait minute, I got
Speaker 1: serves your Oh, I got a story about me and
Speaker 1: John hit me?
Speaker 2: Well, John, who I love dearly? Let me just start
Speaker 2: out pressing that. Let me just say that right now.
Speaker 2: I do love him, I really do. He's the kind
Speaker 2: of guy that you'll never get to love because he
Speaker 2: just doesn't allow it. But I love him. And we
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time together in seventy.
Speaker 1: Nine.
Speaker 2: In the early eighties, we spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: together and I had this dream, we had this dream
Speaker 2: of forming a band that would that would be called
Speaker 2: PM and never Yeah, it never happened. He's Detroit no,
Speaker 2: it's from here. But we hooked up somehow, and and
Speaker 2: he was the first guy that sounded like Prince before Prince.
Speaker 2: That's how he played guitar. That John McLean yep man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that John McQueen.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Well if you do, you will win the ultimate prize.
Speaker 1: We got him for him. It is.
Speaker 2: We can't find him and you know what, sorry to say,
Speaker 2: but you probably won't.
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, he's that mysterious. You know what, you can
Speaker 1: google anybody on the planet. I say, I can't even
Speaker 1: if he walked in right now. No, I've never seen
Speaker 1: what imagine that he looks like Stony Jackson an old
Speaker 1: picture of him.
Speaker 2: No, bro's black guy. Damn. But don't you can't find him?
Speaker 1: Wow? Damn. So he medinaized his way into the industry
Speaker 1: as an executive the same way that Benny Medina was
Speaker 1: a musician.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's Benny Medina.
Speaker 1: Lord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. But no, actually, actually actually John was
Speaker 2: a little more legitimate. But anyway, we need to greg,
Speaker 2: you know, or maybe I'll just come up with my own.
Speaker 2: I'll just do a couple of spots for you. But anyway,
Speaker 2: don't write to check. You might be surprised anyway.
Speaker 1: So, yes, y'all had a group called PM No.
Speaker 2: We had a dream, we had the idea of a group,
Speaker 2: but it never came to fruition.
Speaker 1: What projects what? Okay, but you know we.
Speaker 2: Did work on together what a TV series? Oh the
Speaker 2: name of the producer scapes me right now. But the
Speaker 2: show is called The Righteous Apples.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, they did a cover of Let
Speaker 1: It Go, but uh, let the Love out of Yr.
Speaker 1: It was a Pages joint originally Richard Page The Joint,
Speaker 1: and then they did a cover of it The Righteous Apples.
Speaker 2: It was like they were like a high school yes
Speaker 2: from I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 2: the name of the creator and the writer and I
Speaker 2: can't for the life of me right now. Black guy
Speaker 2: were he wore which you have glasses? He was with
Speaker 2: the PBS thing and we we wrote and produced songs
Speaker 2: for that show. Like yeah, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the i m dB page.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll just pretendue that's what.
Speaker 2: Is there another song called it feels like the first.
Speaker 5: Time It doesn't list just this one, okay, but yeah,
Speaker 5: mm hmm, but yeah, we we did that and that
Speaker 5: was the Crown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes he was. But John doesn't look.
Speaker 1: Like stony and Ernest Thomas. Wow, isn't that crazy? Ernest
Speaker 1: one thought I was Common's bodyguard.
Speaker 2: That's hysterical.
Speaker 1: That broke my heart.
Speaker 2: Man, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Top, thank you, Tom on to do Mark Martin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was my introduction to Topper.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing that you scored or like
Speaker 1: for television.
Speaker 2: I think it was the only thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Michael Henderson was on Sorry, really he was
Speaker 1: on an episode? Yeah he was. I guess just a
Speaker 1: member of just as a member of the band that I.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't call well, I guess you can call it a
Speaker 2: drama sort of.
Speaker 1: I guess Michael Henderson in what year eighty and eighty
Speaker 1: one when the show was on cocaine, Michael Henderson last
Speaker 1: time saying that ship down? Can you please break it down?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of Michael Henderson's rant drunken rant
Speaker 1: in Japan?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Classic? Oh my god, best in life?
Speaker 5: Just Google.
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking it down for nobody.
Speaker 2: I'm not backing it up.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Mayfield. They're trying to they're trying to kill
Speaker 1: like he's just drunk and he's playing in front of
Speaker 1: it feels like he's performing for audience at fourteen. And
Speaker 1: you can hear people like because he's just spinning to
Speaker 1: be Oh, you're gonna leave baby, Oh that's okay, that's
Speaker 1: all right, people walking out, and he's.
Speaker 3: Just like yourself, I'm what year is this?
Speaker 1: It has to be eighty four?
Speaker 2: Is not wasting any time?
Speaker 1: It has to be eighty four. And like Norman, I
Speaker 1: think Norman Conness is drumming, but he takes it's a
Speaker 1: seven minute build up to sing going places. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: when he's very special like I did, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: It's like he gets into the verse. Fo you realize
Speaker 1: it's going places. Oh that's what he's says his son,
Speaker 1: his son lives in Philly. And keep taking it off
Speaker 1: of YouTube because I can't. I can't find it.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 8: I got that.
Speaker 1: She ain't going nowhere. Have you ever seen the version
Speaker 1: where they made a video to it? Stones throw Stone
Speaker 1: like a animated It's the best thing on earth. Take
Speaker 1: me on, motherfucking yours right, motherfucker. He goes in the
Speaker 1: next song.
Speaker 2: So this sounds better than Ray Charles's. It sounds better
Speaker 2: than Buddy Riches. It sounds better than.
Speaker 6: They really heard that one past those really past those three.
Speaker 6: They're cursing people out, but this is just like he's Ray.
Speaker 1: Which one is the Ray? Where is he cutting people
Speaker 1: by that? Someone interrupts.
Speaker 2: There's a scuffle between him and and the drummer. At
Speaker 2: the time, I think it was not Bernard, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was fat Head fad was yah fat It
Speaker 2: was a sex player, but it was a scuffle between
Speaker 2: him and the drummer, and the drummer walked off. That's
Speaker 2: all right, No, no, no, it's all right. It went
Speaker 2: It was okay.
Speaker 1: There's he's doing busted. I have a version of him
Speaker 1: doing busted. And then someone gets on the stage. It's
Speaker 1: like you a doll, You a dog and raises like,
Speaker 1: bless your heart, bless your heart. You were nothing but
Speaker 1: a dirty doll.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a woman.
Speaker 1: She no a guy basically like Ray must have did
Speaker 1: something wrong to a woman, either slept with his wife
Speaker 1: or something. You ain't nothing but a doll, yea bless
Speaker 1: your heart, because someone could someone please get this gentleman
Speaker 1: off the states. Lease but a dirty doll. You were doll?
Speaker 1: And then they take him off and then like you
Speaker 1: hear him walking like crass cuts out. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: all listen like like nothing happened, but yes, it's it's
Speaker 1: up there, but no, Michael.
Speaker 3: Loses his ship.
Speaker 2: That's so listen, Uh what I know you have a
Speaker 2: billion of these? What three songs did you say no
Speaker 2: to that you could have been on?
Speaker 1: Like did you only stay in the Winter circle? Michael
Speaker 1: Lionel three Stevie. The only example I have of that
Speaker 1: is a song that I was originally asked to uh
Speaker 1: over Debond piano, and.
Speaker 2: I was very full of myself and I oh, I
Speaker 2: went and did the session, but I mean I was
Speaker 2: full of myself musically and I thought like whatever I
Speaker 2: played would be great, and it wasn't because they just
Speaker 2: wanted something. They just wanted the changes in the in
Speaker 2: the rhythm that that that it was in it, and
Speaker 2: I was I was overplaying. I overplayed, and I overplayed
Speaker 2: my way out of the session. And I regret that
Speaker 2: because I really love this song and it's one of
Speaker 2: my favorites from George Benson is.
Speaker 1: Turn Your Love?
Speaker 2: How do You?
Speaker 1: They just wanted you to play the piano line.
Speaker 2: They just wanted Dunn. But I was playing I was
Speaker 2: playing dumn.
Speaker 3: I was just.
Speaker 2: Overplaying, you know, And and I ask you to just
Speaker 2: play simple. I guess they just said, well, it's not okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: And then the next thing, I know, somebody else was
Speaker 2: on it. But so yeah, but I remember being asked
Speaker 2: to play on it, but I just I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't play it right, you know, And I could have.
Speaker 2: And I even at that point, I was definitely more
Speaker 2: trained because of all the other years of doing sessions,
Speaker 2: and I just should have known better, but I overplayed.
Speaker 1: Were formally were you formally trained how to play me?
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that. Were you formally like you know,
Speaker 1: how to read? Or just yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I started playing by your at well, my mom says,
Speaker 2: legend has it too. I started playing by her at
Speaker 2: around two. But then I started taking lessons at around six.
Speaker 2: And so I did have formal training. And my I
Speaker 2: had three teachers. And the third one was the most
Speaker 2: influential and the most effective. And he was the pianist
Speaker 2: with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. And his name was Misha Cotler,
Speaker 2: and he was a badass. He didn't take any mess
Speaker 2: and and and you know, I needed discipline because I
Speaker 2: was running over my last teacher because I thought I
Speaker 2: was hot, snot knew everything. And he I left his
Speaker 2: his house crying many times because he just he was
Speaker 2: this Russian, you know, like Polish, and he was, you know,
Speaker 2: very strict and took no mess, you know. But it's
Speaker 2: the discipline I needed.
Speaker 1: Did Luca Third produce that quinin.
Speaker 2: He Actually I think he might have been one of
Speaker 2: the producers. I think I'm not sure, but but it
Speaker 2: wasn't Quincy though.
Speaker 1: No. Okay, okay, okay, okay. What what if you played
Speaker 1: on that we might not know? Like did turn your
Speaker 1: liver room? Thank you? Really? Yeah? Wow? So weird?
Speaker 2: What if I played on? And this is a hard
Speaker 2: question for you because you know everything?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, did you suffer?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Are you on the heat is on? By Glenn fry
Speaker 1: or I can't tell you why.
Speaker 2: I wish that's really play? Yeah, no, I can't even
Speaker 2: think of anything that is that for real?
Speaker 5: A float or this guy is lying to me right now,
Speaker 5: I did a floater? Lying, I don't, I didn't they
Speaker 5: gave you credit? Oh okay, thanks, wait a minute. Oh
Speaker 5: I'm so glad this came to me. It's gonna kill me. Uh,
Speaker 5: I gotta go back to Triumph. Okay, explain you said
Speaker 5: this to me once and I didn't know. Okay, so
Speaker 5: uh helped me out here guys Dela Light Works there, Okay,
Speaker 5: on your ways on Triumph.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about that actually, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you said, was that the exact What's going on? Like?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but I know that
Speaker 2: the instrument used was i'm alotron? Yeah, but the same one.
Speaker 2: Did you tell me that that was the same exact
Speaker 2: one that Marmon used on.
Speaker 1: What's going On?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so I couldn't possibly.
Speaker 1: Know that, Okay, No, but I know someone told me. Okay,
Speaker 1: someone said it like that, either something like Marvin Heady
Speaker 1: or that Barry headed especially made well yeah, and that
Speaker 1: Barry had U do you know this story of Motown
Speaker 1: that Raymond Scott had built, had convinced Barry Gordy to
Speaker 1: purchase two of his his version of Tanto and this,
Speaker 1: and he ordered two of them, and then I think
Speaker 1: mid second one, they just discontinued the production. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: never mind, what year was this? Seventy sixty?
Speaker 2: Because I'm wondering if these instruments that you're talking about,
Speaker 2: if they were used in these incredible ways for songs
Speaker 2: like Reflections, because I I defy anybody to tell me
Speaker 2: what the hell that sound is in the opening.
Speaker 1: Whatever that is?
Speaker 2: So and then they then they used something else later on,
Speaker 2: like what you know in these random places in the song,
Speaker 2: which is brilliant, but I have no idea what it
Speaker 2: is here.
Speaker 1: It is, okay, so yeah. In nineteen sixty nine, Barrigordy
Speaker 1: tipped off about a map musical scientists engage the mysterious works.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Visited Scott at his Long Island lab to witness the
Speaker 1: electronium that's what he called.
Speaker 2: It, electronium Wow yeah, and all of its infinitous possibilities.
Speaker 1: And Gordy hired Scott in seventy one to serve as
Speaker 1: director of Motown's electronic music and research departments. Wow wow Oh,
Speaker 1: position Scott held until nineteen seventy seven. Really wow. No
Speaker 1: Motown recordings using Scott's electronic inventions have been publicly identified.
Speaker 1: Oh sad as that, but yeah, he originally someone says
Speaker 1: that he originally started working on the electronium out of
Speaker 1: Barry's house. They set up a room over the garages
Speaker 1: and he worked there putting stuff together so Barry could
Speaker 1: get involved and see the progress, and at one point
Speaker 1: worked out of the Studiou unit never got finalized, and
Speaker 1: Ray had a real problem letting go.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It was always being developed and that was the problem
Speaker 1: for Barry.
Speaker 2: You know what, what do you think it probably sounded
Speaker 2: like crap, it's a waste of seven thousand? What do
Speaker 2: you think it probably just wasn't good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh? Do you have a we are the world question? Steve? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't even put it together in my
Speaker 4: head that that that was you on that just you know,
Speaker 4: is your name on the cover of that forty five?
Speaker 2: Like no, not, no, that's just the artist. But I
Speaker 2: did play piano on it.
Speaker 4: The artist is one of the artists.
Speaker 1: Then what happened there?
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't No, it's not on the cover. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Every since you walked out, I don't know what. Hey,
Speaker 3: great was the artist and maybe it's the same person,
Speaker 3: But who was the artist that that you really ran
Speaker 3: to the studio outside of, of course Stevie Jackson's finel
Speaker 3: that you ran to the studio to work with because
Speaker 3: you were so excited, and who was the artist that
Speaker 3: you ran on tour to be with me?
Speaker 1: Nobody excited?
Speaker 2: Is anybody?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: As far as touring, you know, there was a time
Speaker 2: when I toured with a Beatle, which one, nope, this
Speaker 2: this this other guy that I was touring with. I
Speaker 2: was in his band, and we already had a set
Speaker 2: thing going. And then uh, that artist managed to convince
Speaker 2: George to tour with us, and he said, you can
Speaker 2: use my band, and so it was the Eric Clapton
Speaker 2: and George Harrison tour of Japan. And you haven't lived
Speaker 2: until you've toured with a Beatle. Jesus, it didn't suck.
Speaker 2: And we go to here's a crazy thing. We go
Speaker 2: to Tokyo and of course George was absolutely lovely, beautiful
Speaker 2: human being. We go to Tokyo and we're all we're
Speaker 2: all terribly excited, and we were in the hotel it's
Speaker 2: called the Capitol Tokyo Hotel. We're in George's room. TV's
Speaker 2: on and they're playing footage. I mean they're they're announcing
Speaker 2: obviously the George is in town, but they're playing footage
Speaker 2: of when the Beatles pulled up to the exact same
Speaker 2: hotel we're staying in. So now I'm in a room.
Speaker 2: I'm in a suite with a Beatle, watching footage of
Speaker 2: when his band pulled up to the same hotel we're in, Like, okay,
Speaker 2: just kind of take this in and so we toured around.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: And then and then another George story, which I always
Speaker 2: love to tell. It was the second time I went
Speaker 2: to visit him at his home and he opens the
Speaker 2: door and he's He's in corn Rows, George. George, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: he opened the door and I go, well, I didn't
Speaker 2: see this coming, George, what do you think? I said,
Speaker 2: First of all, how did you get your hair in Cornrows?
Speaker 2: How did that work? But he was in cornera I
Speaker 2: wish I took a picture of him. But so we're
Speaker 2: hanging out and then he goes, do you want to
Speaker 2: hear the new song? Then I go, okay. We go
Speaker 2: up to the bedroom, plays the thing, and I got
Speaker 2: my private world premiere of Free Wow as a Bird,
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there and I'm absolutely transfixed and mesmerized.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that I'm, first of all, sitting in
Speaker 2: the bedroom of a beatle listening to the last song
Speaker 2: all the Beatles did. And I'm sitting there and chills
Speaker 2: are running up and down my SPI. First of all,
Speaker 2: I'm getting hills even talking about this right now. But
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I'm just trying to take all
Speaker 2: this and I'm going I went.
Speaker 1: Around with George Harrison.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe.
Speaker 5: This is right now.
Speaker 1: But sham okay.
Speaker 3: On the heels of that question, you also you also
Speaker 3: m DD a lot of specials and award shows. What
Speaker 3: was your what was one of your favorite experiences with that?
Speaker 1: Ps?
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed watching because you're always.
Speaker 1: So in me.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, where's your first one that you did? Like your
Speaker 1: first awards that you.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I don't know the first awards show
Speaker 2: that I am? Indeed, wow, I I don't know. I'd
Speaker 2: have to research that. I don't.
Speaker 1: Damn so Ricky Minor wasn't born with that, but times
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 2: Just okay, here you go, thank you. But no, uh no,
Speaker 2: I don't remember. But I'll tell you what the pretty
Speaker 2: much the best one was. It was based off of
Speaker 2: how I got started?
Speaker 3: Mm hm, the Jackson special. No, he's how you got
Speaker 3: started started?
Speaker 1: I was thinking of the Detroit Symphony thing. Uh Stevie.
Speaker 2: In the Key of Life. It was a Grammy tribute.
Speaker 2: I am dated, that's anyone. So that's why that's the
Speaker 2: best one.
Speaker 1: Ah, so you're a g an egg. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the second best one is probably the Jackson's thirtieth
Speaker 2: Anniversary in the Garden, because I mean, this is the
Speaker 2: Jackson's thirty Anniversary in the Garden.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, question, yeah, since that night was
Speaker 1: so vivid. That day after it was so memorable. By
Speaker 1: the way, this was based off of because we did
Speaker 1: two shows. I know, I'm going to ask you about
Speaker 1: that second show. Okay, how did you get out of
Speaker 1: New York City? Right?
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't by plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First of all, nothing was happening the day, the day of,
Speaker 2: or the day after.
Speaker 1: We might want to tell everybody what that day was.
Speaker 2: It was September eleventh, two thousand and one, and that
Speaker 2: was after the second show, which was September tenth, and
Speaker 2: the first show, which was the eighth, because there was
Speaker 2: a break in between, I think because of the circus.
Speaker 2: But the first show was September eighth, the second show
Speaker 2: was September tenth, and I remember after that show, just
Speaker 2: you know, having more of a private celebration, you know,
Speaker 2: dinner with a buddy of mine at the time, and
Speaker 2: had like, you know, just kind of a celebratory dinner
Speaker 2: and everything was great. And then my wife at the
Speaker 2: time the next morning, you know, we slept in because
Speaker 2: you know, we had such a great night, so we
Speaker 2: slept in late. And I had this plan. I had
Speaker 2: two plans that I wanted to do. I wanted to
Speaker 2: go to Central Park and take my wife on a
Speaker 2: canoe ride. And I also wanted to go to my
Speaker 2: favorite place, my favorite restaurant for lunch, which is a
Speaker 2: restaurant called La bill Bouquet. And so I called the
Speaker 2: restaurant after I woke up, because I wanted to make reservations.
Speaker 2: I called and said, yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Ago?
Speaker 2: I said, I'd like to, you know, come to the
Speaker 2: to the spot today and the person said, today's not
Speaker 2: a good day. Said why it's not a good Day's
Speaker 2: people are crying, it's terrible, It's it's not a good day.
Speaker 2: I go, what are you talking about. The person went,
Speaker 2: have you seen the news? Go No, said you might
Speaker 2: want to turn the TV on right now. That's how
Speaker 2: we found out, damn. And then after the initial shock,
Speaker 2: which took a long time to get over it, and
Speaker 2: we started smelling smoke. And by the way I was staying,
Speaker 2: I was staying at the plaza Athenae Way way uptown,
Speaker 2: and you could smell the smoke there.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: The producer of the show, David Guest, was very good
Speaker 2: to me though, because he let me stay at the
Speaker 2: plaza until the end of the week or until I
Speaker 2: could get away out. And so what happened was we
Speaker 2: kept trying by flights and it was very, very very difficult.
Speaker 2: Free to pain I remember was one of the lucky ones.
Speaker 2: She got out on the plane. Came to find out.
Speaker 2: Came to find out later on that Michael uh that
Speaker 2: car ride with yeah, he went that was real.
Speaker 1: He did that.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know how the cross country with Elizabeth
Speaker 2: Taylor and I watched his name Marlon Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, yeah, because I didn't. I didn't know that
Speaker 2: at the time, and I didn't know how the rest
Speaker 2: of the brothers made out. I didn't know how anybody
Speaker 2: else got out, but me and my wife at that time,
Speaker 2: we we couldn't get up playing out, so we just
Speaker 2: decided at the end of that week, that Saturday, that
Speaker 2: we'd run a car, so we drove over to we
Speaker 2: got we went over to Jersey and got a hurt
Speaker 2: sprint a car, and we drove cross country and it
Speaker 2: was part of like a mini mini cavalcade because Cheryl
Speaker 2: Lynn was with us, Yeah, and and strange, Yeah, she
Speaker 2: and her cousin or her manager. Actually we we didn't draw,
Speaker 2: we didn't drive all together, but we drove, like you know,
Speaker 2: in in separate cars. And we drove cross country all
Speaker 2: the way back, and we stopped in Saint Louis, where
Speaker 2: her manager's mom lived, and it was a Saint Louis,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was Saint Louis. We stopped there
Speaker 2: and we made a couple of other steps and we
Speaker 2: drove all the way. And that was the first and
Speaker 2: only time I drove a cross country and I never
Speaker 2: imagined it would be for that reason. Ship that's crazy,
Speaker 2: no traffic, no track, it was. It was eerily calm
Speaker 2: and still there's no traffic. And I remember hearing them
Speaker 2: play this particular song a lot during a cross country riding.
Speaker 2: It was a song by Nya.
Speaker 1: No that is not the right like that for two weeks. No,
Speaker 1: they only played like imagine there was a whole no
Speaker 1: no songs or the no playlist. Yeah, which is why,
Speaker 1: which is why I ode on the blueprint. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's man. Can you do you remember you remember? Can
Speaker 1: you take us through where you were when you got
Speaker 1: the dues about Mike?
Speaker 2: Yes. I was in Beverly Hills and I was I
Speaker 2: just dropped off a watch to get repaired, and my
Speaker 2: wife at that time called me and said, did you
Speaker 2: hear about Michael? I go, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I heard the news and I just knew. I was
Speaker 2: in shock, you know, I I it was just you know,
Speaker 2: and yet I wasn't, you know. And what I really
Speaker 2: remember after that is going through the preparations with Brandy,
Speaker 2: because Randy brought me in and he wanted me to
Speaker 2: help out with the with the memorial. And then we
Speaker 2: we had a meeting at Kenerle's house, Randy Ken and
Speaker 2: I and we started talking things, you know, talking things
Speaker 2: through and you know, artists and so forth. And I
Speaker 2: remember thinking, well, it would be really nice if Steve
Speaker 2: saying I never dreamed bed leave in summer, uh, which
Speaker 2: was which was deeply poetic because he did leave us
Speaker 2: in summer, and I remember going to I remember having
Speaker 2: private meetings, you know, with Randy, and I remember going
Speaker 2: down to l A Live and it was the only
Speaker 2: time that I was in the l A Live executive building,
Speaker 2: you know, where all the offices were, and I remember
Speaker 2: having we were we had this meeting with Randy and
Speaker 2: ken and uh uh uh Simon what's Simon's first name?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Who No, as Sideman, He's Sideman, He's he's the Uh,
Speaker 2: he's the uh he basically runs he basically runs LA Live,
Speaker 2: Staples Center and Microsoft Center. Uh Lee Lee Seidman.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 2: Lywickie wasn't there at that time, I don't think, but
Speaker 2: there were other executives and we we you know, they were.
Speaker 2: We were discussing everything, like, you know, how many tickets
Speaker 2: for family, how many tickets for VP, He's all this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, everything, you know. And then I remember
Speaker 2: meeting it at Staples with the brothers in a backstage
Speaker 2: room and it was me and the brothers, Kenner like
Speaker 2: Valdez Flag legendary stage manager, and maybe one other person
Speaker 2: and we were just all sitting there and at different points,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the brothers would cry it was
Speaker 2: really really heavy. And I remember also taking the walk
Speaker 2: through the underground tunnel from Staples to what is now
Speaker 2: Microsoft Center, because there's this underground tunnel that connects the
Speaker 2: two because it was built that way for you know,
Speaker 2: just as a cool thing for any artists that want
Speaker 2: to do double duty or whatever, easy access, you know.
Speaker 2: And so we walked this underground tunnel from Staples to
Speaker 2: it was a different name then, but whatever. But so
Speaker 2: we go there, and that was designed for the family
Speaker 2: to leave Staples to go to Microsoft Center for the
Speaker 2: overflow of people who couldn't get in the Staples, and
Speaker 2: it was designed for so the family was going to go.
Speaker 2: The original idea was that the family was going to
Speaker 2: go and thank them. But they didn't do it.
Speaker 1: They didn't do it.
Speaker 2: We did a practice walk, but after it actually happened,
Speaker 2: they didn't do it. They they didn't do it because
Speaker 2: it was it was like enough for really you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, with everything that went on and
Speaker 2: and uh so, yeah, it was very heavy, and I
Speaker 2: remember I remember having a very very private moment with
Speaker 2: Marlon at Havenhurst and him, you know, we talked and
Speaker 2: and you know, he cried on my shoulder. You know,
Speaker 2: very very difficult. But uh, you know, but I also remember,
Speaker 2: you know at Staples when we were there going through things,
Speaker 2: that Barry came over and we we we all took
Speaker 2: pictures together, Barry and the brothers and me and just
Speaker 2: all kinds of memories.
Speaker 1: You know, how can one how could one be creative
Speaker 1: in a time like that, because you know, you have
Speaker 1: to go with arrangements and okay, all right, what key
Speaker 1: do you want to sing in? And D D D
Speaker 1: and you know, call up musicians and background sound check
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 2: What you just do you just do man. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know one thing Earl is really good at is
Speaker 2: just forging through no matter what, because he's had to
Speaker 2: in all kinds he's had, He's been hit with all
Speaker 2: kinds of last minute things like you know, uh, they
Speaker 2: were rehearsing the grass like the day of the Grammy
Speaker 2: thing where Chris God Jesus, I think I was, I know,
Speaker 2: I was there. I was there. You talk about you
Speaker 2: talk about having a chance on the fly and.
Speaker 3: What what was it?
Speaker 1: What the backstory was that the Chris Brown Rihanna thing
Speaker 1: just happened and that was the year they decided to
Speaker 1: let artists double up on things. So Timberlake had like
Speaker 1: two or three songs, and Chris Brown had two or
Speaker 1: three songs, and Rihanna had two or three songs, and
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like the first mashup thing of
Speaker 1: duets and multiple songs. But without Chris Brown Rihanna, they
Speaker 1: there was like space for five songs and I never
Speaker 1: two things happened that day, which is the most surreal
Speaker 1: ship I've ever seen in my life. One Early and
Speaker 1: his whole crew literally now it's about let's say it
Speaker 1: in hour fifteen minutes until they realized that Brown and
Speaker 1: Rihanna are no show.
Speaker 2: So they're just scouring up the scramming voice of men.
Speaker 1: Can you sing Let's say together?
Speaker 2: Al Green? No, no, no, They're just grabbing people from
Speaker 2: the audience like this.
Speaker 1: We need we need a four minute song. That so
Speaker 1: that whole thing of like, uh, boys to the men
Speaker 1: singing Let's stay together. Yeah, none of that ship was
Speaker 1: playing the amperstitionous thing with Stevie Wonder with the Jonas
Speaker 1: brothers jon brother No. But wait here's the other funny thing. So, uh,
Speaker 1: the the the Coldplay controversy with Joe Satriani. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: where they hit Jack the Viva Levito. So they've been
Speaker 1: and running away from getting their summons from Satriani's people
Speaker 1: for like two months. So he had a plan. He
Speaker 1: had a plan. He's like, Yo, I'm gonna get them
Speaker 1: motherfuckers at the Grammys. When I tell you you remember
Speaker 1: them old Keystone Caper things were like you watch the
Speaker 1: The Cops, That's exactly what happened. So you had the
Speaker 1: people running this way to serve the papers and then
Speaker 1: Coldplay running this way, and then it was like you
Speaker 1: could have put the flight of the Bumble beat to
Speaker 1: the Ship saw just just in the top it. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should no, just no, I said,
Speaker 1: all my stuff, it's just the end of the night.
Speaker 1: You know, like artists are like very think of like
Speaker 1: a cat, like an oasis. You know, this guy's like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the Grammys. That's sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But uh, Tom ne Yorke took losing the cold Play
Speaker 1: very very hard and how hard a very emotional way.
Speaker 1: So just that was the most surreal, dang. But to
Speaker 1: see yeah, literally between Erlic just scrambling for people to
Speaker 1: sing Ship and cold Play and Satriani's h I had
Speaker 1: no idea that it was going.
Speaker 5: It was the funniest day of my life. Wow, it
Speaker 5: was funny. I'm glad somebody would have had something to
Speaker 5: laugh about that day.
Speaker 1: Well, did the thing was? We didn't? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know you didn't know what was happening. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like being in the New York doing the
Speaker 1: blackout right Like in Detroit, I saw y'all. I knew
Speaker 1: y'all in the blackout, but I don't think y'all really
Speaker 1: knew because there was no TV to turn on to see.
Speaker 1: Pridy could say, we couldn't write.
Speaker 2: You could be told you were in a blackout.
Speaker 1: But it was just like, oh we heard like Rihanna's
Speaker 1: not coming, Like we didn't until I got home. Then
Speaker 1: we saw oh ship that happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah that was sort of the thing.
Speaker 1: Wow. So, uh, did we cover everything in your life? No?
Speaker 2: Not even close, like the whole part two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is already.
Speaker 3: Signs and movies and ship.
Speaker 1: You did score.
Speaker 2: I didn't score it.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Actually I just did one thing, okay for a female
Speaker 2: artist who the girl who did Private Joy Shane Shane. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I sang the demo.
Speaker 1: Produced by Jimmy Iovien. Wow, Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: Where somebody asked me to do somebody asked me to
Speaker 2: do that, you know, produce that thing for that girl.
Speaker 2: So I did that. Did Private Joy in.
Speaker 3: The Street to fire? Were you in the band?
Speaker 2: No? No, I was in another movie, ding movie, the
Speaker 2: only my only this is it my only movie day?
Speaker 2: But I didn't do this is it?
Speaker 1: Because Michael you're right, You're right. Sorry, Okay, I was young.
Speaker 2: Say but you haven't lived until you've been directed by
Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Thank you? What movie.
Speaker 2: You would be a player?
Speaker 1: We got to I was in Next in the Color
Speaker 1: Purple as well. I was six baby.
Speaker 6: Kids.
Speaker 2: I was one of the kids.
Speaker 1: The scene where the scene where she's hanging up closed,
Speaker 1: she's saying, no, you gotta fight, you gotta what Ceeli
Speaker 1: and Neddie are talking and so then like a kid
Speaker 1: comes and runs through the sheet and she's like, y'all
Speaker 1: get on the way from you. I was ya, you
Speaker 1: got our shooting vituals.
Speaker 4: But you're not going to believe this.
Speaker 8: But also, yeah, man, exactly, you were the kid, and
Speaker 8: you were you were the kid. You were the one
Speaker 8: of the kids of the owner of the general store.
Speaker 2: By some girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah you g but guess what though, guess what, that's
Speaker 1: not even my voice. I want that? Wait wait, I couldn't.
Speaker 2: But I did say it. Yeah, I did say it,
Speaker 2: but in the final and over, I guess it wasn't
Speaker 2: loud enough, so they had they had somebody else go well,
Speaker 2: but I did. That's me playing wow and that hysterical.
Speaker 2: So if you want a really good laugh, whipped that
Speaker 2: out one night, you'll crack up. Yeah, gotta you laugh
Speaker 2: yourself silly.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 2: Great, But that's how I met Oprah. Ah what And
Speaker 2: that's how I met uh Danny, And that's how I
Speaker 2: met the cast of wacky characters. And yeah wait, oh
Speaker 2: there's another thing that I did that I'm very proud
Speaker 2: of that you probably didn't know I did. Thanks to
Speaker 2: Ken Irlic Oprahs final two shows, Thank you man? Wait?
Speaker 1: What were her final two shows?
Speaker 2: An extraaganza with every star you've ever heard of in
Speaker 2: your entire life, in the entire galaxy that digit's ever interviewed.
Speaker 2: They came out, oh to say goodbye? And yeah that's stuff.
Speaker 1: So what musical moment? Who who was the last you? Indeed?
Speaker 1: Whatever the musical moment was? Oh, I indeed the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So who was the last person.
Speaker 2: I don't know who the last person was, but but
Speaker 2: probably my favorite segment was when we when were surprised
Speaker 2: it with Steve, because what happened was the setup Wash
Speaker 2: Jamie mm hmm, you know went to her and started,
Speaker 2: you know, talking all his smack and everything, and he's
Speaker 2: he he would he started, isn't she lovely?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So he started it. So we did a slow version
Speaker 2: and that's me playing with him and everything, and then
Speaker 2: we we I do some some chord changes, you know,
Speaker 2: some different courts to set up into the original key
Speaker 2: of isn't she lovely? For Steve to rise out of
Speaker 2: the floor on a panel is love and she turns around.
Speaker 1: Wait, I gotta ask, do you have you ever had
Speaker 1: as an m d uh a Murphy's Law moment for you?
Speaker 2: Everything can go on.
Speaker 1: I don't like, as a sequencer ever not worked on
Speaker 1: you know when jam is on at the intro, you know,
Speaker 1: did you miss a if you can't feed your baby
Speaker 1: Q or that freeze or want to be starting something or.
Speaker 2: Oh I we probably did. We probably had some you
Speaker 2: mean doing the Bad Tour? Well, yeah, I mean just
Speaker 2: in general general not not yeah, probably, but not to
Speaker 2: not anything that just stands out to gregor, Oh, you
Speaker 2: won't believe this. So I'm sure they happened, but they
Speaker 2: were mercifully far and few between.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well great.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I really do want to know what you played on
Speaker 4: the other world, like what instruments that.
Speaker 2: You Oh this piano, played piano and there's the piano too, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: but well and to your point, yes, and he co
Speaker 2: wrote the song, but no, he he doesn't need to
Speaker 2: play it. He's one of the featured artists, so he
Speaker 2: doesn't need So they had they have other sense and
Speaker 2: stuff that. Oh yeah, so Quincy had a few of us.
Speaker 2: It was me, David Page and I think, and there
Speaker 2: was one other one I can't remember who. They're gonna
Speaker 2: kill me thout, but but I played piano. Page played
Speaker 2: you know, electric piano, I thing or other instruments. And
Speaker 2: there was a third keyboarders as well. So there were
Speaker 2: much of this no, well just other sense, not strings.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so there were I'm pretty sure three keyboard
Speaker 2: players and I did the piano. Thank you, thank you well,
Speaker 2: brother Greg Amir.
Speaker 1: You you gave us dog, you brought it. You brought
Speaker 1: the stories, you brought, the dramas, you brought the listen.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, but it takes someone as nerdy
Speaker 2: and as knowledgeable as you are and your fine team.
Speaker 2: Let me just say right now, you guys are really wonderful,
Speaker 2: even Steve. Okay, okay, I getly function.
Speaker 1: That's all I know.
Speaker 2: I get it, and I have to pee right now.
Speaker 2: But I must say I had no idea that I
Speaker 2: would be here for over three hours, but like I
Speaker 2: have enjoyed every second of it felt like three minutes.
Speaker 2: And blessings to you all and.
Speaker 1: To just thank you for you, just for all your contributions,
Speaker 1: all your music, just for raising all of us. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you on behalf of Sugar Steve and I'm paid well,
Speaker 1: well he's not here on behalf of Sugar Steve and
Speaker 1: Boss Bill and Fantiicolo and Laiah. Yeah, I'd like to
Speaker 1: say thank you Greg again. This is Quest Love Course
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