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Speaker 3: Tyler Dragon, of course, the NFL reporter for USA.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: We'll get some of his takes about some of this

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Speaker 3: NFL action, and of course our last call will do

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Speaker 3: that as well. In this hour eleven twenty five to

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Speaker 3: go and it's three nothing Pittsburgh and the Texans are driving.

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Speaker 4: Where are they at midfield? About their thirty thirty five?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 4: I believe we'll see in the moment. Oh no, you're bad.

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Speaker 4: You're right at midfield at forty midfield.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the package forty five, I mean stealers forty five.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's still hard, isn't it? Because he played the

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Speaker 1: Packers and ninety five years.

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Speaker 3: So that's why it's like crazy, all right, So we'll

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Speaker 3: be keep an eye on the game. Of course, less

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Speaker 3: than eleven minutes to go, a low screwing game.

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Speaker 4: We talked about it.

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Speaker 3: The under the over under was thirty eight points in

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Speaker 3: this game, Texans minus three.

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Speaker 3: As far as the gambling aspect of it, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's turn us sites to the Green Bay Packers, and

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Speaker 3: we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: Caleb made all the throws, He did everything to win

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but that's a major choke job

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Speaker 3: by the Green Bay Packers. It's just it is, and

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Speaker 3: two things in this situation work out. They choked and

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Speaker 3: guess what Caleb did. He took advantage of it and

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Speaker 3: made all the throws and everything that you needed to

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Speaker 4: But Matt Lafleur all this question.

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Speaker 3: They're reporting a developing story that they're gonna give him

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Speaker 3: a new deal and that you know, he got one

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Speaker 3: work well for coaches because players know your contract status,

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Speaker 3: so I don't have to really I can tune you out.

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Speaker 4: You might not be here next year. What am I

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Speaker 3: So I get either you got to give him some

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Green Bay Packers, I'm moving on because

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Speaker 3: to me it just seems as if it has been

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Speaker 4: Of the Ravens. No, no, no, but but I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever I picked the Green

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Speaker 1: So I just I'm definitely here. They need to make

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Speaker 3: But sometimes and I've talked to you about this before,

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Speaker 4: You better not say Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur should be fired by the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: So here's why that sentiment. If you're watching this, you

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Speaker 1: these things. Twenty nineteen loses in the NFC Championship to

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Speaker 4: Rob this one makes none of the sense.

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Speaker 1: that was his coaching decision. That was about one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So that one they thought they never got the ball back,

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Speaker 4: I could go on and on.

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Speaker 1: They lose it a twenty twenty wildcard game versus Giants,

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Speaker 4: And then we just saw last of the weekend Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're up twenty one to three against a rival, against

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Speaker 1: We had a touchdown by the way, Christian Kirk from

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Speaker 1: CD Shroud Texans score here and second quarter we'll give

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Speaker 1: you the more sixty three. But it just keeps happening

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Speaker 1: last when you're up three. They just terrible play calling.

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Speaker 1: it is warranted to question will he ever be that good?

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Speaker 1: Because last one, for me, Rob, you had Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: You've had Aaron Rodgers when he was still good MVP exactly,

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Speaker 1: Love who maybe there's some more steps to be taken

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Speaker 1: why I don't know how good Matt Lafleur is at

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Speaker 1: So your your call for his job is warranted. Listen

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Speaker 4: Eighteen years, John Harball nineteen years, Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: That's a long time not to win when you have talent,

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Speaker 3: You have a future Hall of Fame quarterback, really good

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Speaker 3: with MVP twice during your early coaching career. Like, there's

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Speaker 3: too many of those moments. And I'm just saying, you're

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Speaker 4: That's what happened. I'm gonna give you an example.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between Lee and Rob, him and Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy twelve and five, three years in a row, losers

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Speaker 4: You never you know what I mean? You could sell

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Speaker 4: yourself on why not bring him back? What did he do?

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Speaker 1: We were injured, guys were out, Michael was out for

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Speaker 1: what's the different you winning? Justified before and and uh.

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Speaker 1: And Mike McCarthy, you know what I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, losing the locker room. It's whether or not the

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm just saying, you know, base, that's a

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Speaker 1: great point. Lee, Lee, you're you're you're a Packers fan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lee's a Packers fan, and Lee, you know, for you

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Speaker 1: it was per usual, am all right? Like another disappointing

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Speaker 6: As a Packers fan, we're all we all believe in

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Speaker 6: Murphy's law. Whatever will go wrong, whatever can go wrong,

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to see something else? You want a

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Speaker 3: Got Lando in Milwaukee. You're the yond couple of Fox

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Speaker 4: What's up Lando?

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Speaker 7: Man? My man, Rob Coley, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Are you man? What's up? Brother?

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Speaker 7: Man? Listen, i'm'm you know boy, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: He gotta go. Listen. Five straight losses to end the season.

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Speaker 4: What's up Will?

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Speaker 9: You know. It was a treat to get up there

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Speaker 4: They were up twenty one to three.

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Speaker 1: And they've been good for I mean, the Packers are

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Speaker 4: What's up? Jordan?

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Speaker 5: Oh, hey, Roth Cavin, how you guys doing, Buddy?

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Speaker 12: Nothing much to answer the question. Ultimately, I would keep

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Speaker 10: But I'm Calvin.

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Speaker 12: and Harball Ravens era. Like it's multiple vy, multiple MVPs

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Speaker 12: for your star quarterback, one.

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Speaker 10: Season the show for it.

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Speaker 4: That's the point.

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Speaker 12: And it's kind of you know, and it's like when

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Speaker 12: when is it gonna happen? And and and and I

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Speaker 12: think I think I think ultimately though I would I

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Speaker 12: would keep them, but I think the reason why I

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Speaker 12: supported Harball ultimately being let go from Baltimore, and I

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Speaker 12: can see why Packers fans went from the Florida go

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Speaker 12: was because I think if if you were brought John

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Speaker 12: Harball back to the Ravens next year with a healthy

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Speaker 12: Lamar and a healthy Derek Henry, he could have won ten, eleven,

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Speaker 12: twelve games. But it's gonna keep happening this.

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Speaker 1: It's that it's not that they won't win games, because

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Speaker 1: if Lamar is on your team, you're gonna win games.

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Speaker 4: I just I'm went with you. It doesn't matter what.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna win ten games, but are you gonna get

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Speaker 3: to where you want to get to?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the.

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Speaker 3: Call, Wamar Chili, Chima, Chili, You're you're on the on

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Speaker 3: a couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Chili?

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Speaker 5: Good Man?

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Speaker 11: The last call A kind of hinted to it, and Rob,

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm a forty nine fan, I'm not college

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Speaker 11: shut hand. Apologies, but his it right, and this is

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Speaker 11: why he makes them look bad. You look at what

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Speaker 11: we lost, and then it comes down to the talent.

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Speaker 11: So I put the floor in the same boat as

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Speaker 11: Sirianni and Patulo and Philly and John Harborough and uh

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Speaker 11: in Baltimore. You can't lose with the talent you have

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Speaker 11: and let somebody who does not have talent get to

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Speaker 11: the division around of the playoffs, like how can can

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Speaker 11: somebody get with the team. So then that comes down

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Speaker 11: to coaching, right because as bad as you know, I'm

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Speaker 11: not a I've never been in apology for Shanahan, but.

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Speaker 5: So some if you looked at those guys.

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Speaker 11: They were playing for him on Saturday, I don't know

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Speaker 11: what it was Saturday, but they played for him and

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Speaker 11: without the talent. So as the floor, you got talent,

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Speaker 11: I mean you had you lost your tight end, but

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Speaker 11: for the most part you still had Washington Bank, you had.

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Speaker 1: Golden Back and you had a twenty one to three,

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Speaker 1: so you had done something.

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Speaker 11: So how can you you you know, you got the

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Speaker 11: talent and you don't win. That's why he gets fired,

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Speaker 11: same reason when he wants to find here, you got

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Speaker 11: too much talent to lose like you do when you

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Speaker 11: have a talented roster. And that's the problem with Tony Dounch.

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Speaker 11: You had a talented roster.

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Speaker 4: You remember that.

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Speaker 3: I know people like people are like oh, Tempa Bay No,

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Speaker 3: they had a loaded and that defense was so good

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Speaker 3: and they could not win all time.

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Speaker 1: Great, hey, Chili, appreciate it as always, Thanks for the cause, everybody.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: We got Tyler Dragon on the other side of trending

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Speaker 1: USA today if reported there.

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Speaker 4: We'll talked to him in the moment. He was gonna

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Speaker 4: update us on the game. That's right, Steven segond out, Hey, Steve.

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Speaker 13: It is Houston seven to six at Pittsburgh under two

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Speaker 13: minutes schedule in the first half of this wild card

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Speaker 13: playoff game. Houston has won nine in a row. Now,

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Speaker 13: there was a great touchdown drive led by c. J.

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Speaker 13: Stroud fourteen plays ninety two yards over seven minutes worth

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Speaker 13: a six yard TD pass in the second quarter to

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Speaker 13: Christian Kirk. Stroud is nine of thirteen ninety seven yards

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Speaker 13: and a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: But he's lost two fumbles.

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Speaker 13: First to do so two in the first half of

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Speaker 13: a playoff game since Carson Palmer a decade ago, and

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Speaker 13: he hadn't lost a fumble all season this year. In fact,

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Speaker 13: in his young career, only one game with multiple fumbles

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Speaker 13: lost until tonight. In fact, he's fumbled four times, recovered

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Speaker 13: two of his own, and lost to He's over one

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Speaker 13: hundred yards passing now and the Texans du lead on

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Speaker 13: the road. Woody Marks eleven carries fifty nine yards rushing

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Speaker 13: for Houston. He was evaluated for a concussion, but he

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Speaker 13: is back in the game on the ground for Pittsburgh

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Speaker 13: eight carries twenty four yards and by the way, the

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Speaker 13: Steelers offense after forcing the first fumble, the offense went

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Speaker 13: three and out. After Steelers forced the second fumble, they

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Speaker 13: settled for a field goal. Despite having a first and

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Speaker 13: goal at the nine. Chris Boswell has hit field goals

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Speaker 13: of thirty two and thirty five yards, the Steelers only

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Speaker 13: scoring tonight. The winner tonight goes to New England on

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Speaker 13: Sunday for the divisional playoffs. New England Patriots star defensive

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Speaker 13: back Christian Gonzales is in concussion protocol. Former Ravens head

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Speaker 13: coach John Harbaugh interview with the Falcons today, virtually after

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Speaker 13: chatting in person with the Giants yesterday. Rams quarterback Matthew

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Speaker 13: Stafford will play this Sunday at Chicago despite a sprained

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Speaker 13: index finger. Bill's wide receiver Gabe Davis suffered a torn

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Speaker 13: acl yesterday. Arizona State quarterback Sam Levitt will reportedly transfer

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Speaker 13: to LSU to play for Lane Kiffin. Quarterback Dylan Royola

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Speaker 13: is transferring from Nebraska to Oregon. In the NBA our

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Speaker 13: first final of the night, Utah was up twenty one

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Speaker 13: to four early wound up winning at Cleveland one twenty

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Speaker 13: three to one twelve. The Celtics do not have Jalen

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Speaker 13: Brown tonight due to a bad back. The Pacers at

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Speaker 13: home are leading Boston ninety one to ninety with under

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Speaker 13: five minutes to go. Brown of Boston was fine thirty

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Speaker 13: five thousand dollars for postgame criticism of the referees. Philadelphia

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Speaker 13: leads at Toronto three eighty five with nine minutes to go.

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Speaker 13: Paul George is playing after the soar back has fourteen points.

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Speaker 13: Joel Embiid was questionable with the bad knee he's playing

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Speaker 13: as twenty one points and another good game of offense

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Speaker 13: from Tyrese Maxi twenty eight points as Philly leads. The

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Speaker 13: late game will have the Clippers hosting Charlotte in an hour.

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Speaker 13: Minnesota's Anthony Edwards will not play on Tuesday due to

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Speaker 13: a foot injury. Michigan dropped to number four in the

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Speaker 13: New AP Men's College Basketball Poll. Arizona is still number

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Speaker 13: one in the NHL. Columbus fired coach Dean Evison, replaced

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Speaker 13: by Rick Bonus and among the nine NHL games Tonight

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Speaker 13: Panthers with a minute to go lead four to two

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Speaker 13: at the Sabers at Detroit Red Wings leading Carolina three

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Speaker 13: to one in the third once again in tonight's playoff

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Speaker 13: game in the NFL, under a minute to go till halftime,

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Speaker 13: Texans seven, Steelers six.

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Speaker 4: Spec to you, hey, Steve, have a great night.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I coble rock Parker kelvin Washington on a magic City Monday,

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Speaker 1: you get a chance. That's right now. Bring in Tyler

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Speaker 1: Dragon and if a reporter for USA Today, the Tyler

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Speaker 1: Dragon on X always good to chop it up with Tyler.

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Speaker 4: How you doing man? What's up? Tyler?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing good? How are you two doing?

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Speaker 4: Doing great?

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Speaker 7: Brother?

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Speaker 1: They're doing great. I don't know if I last time

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Speaker 1: I saw. I don't know if I if it was

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Speaker 1: a pastor New Year and that so happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: I don't I can't remember if it was.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and you know the odd couple. We don't

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Speaker 3: agree on a lot of stuff, but we're gonna start

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Speaker 3: right here.

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Speaker 4: We're just talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Kevin and I are lockstep on Matt Lafleur, and we

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Speaker 3: would both move on this time. Uh in that they

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Speaker 3: just keep having these postseason failures. That loss, they choked

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Speaker 3: that game to Chicago. Now, I'm not saying Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: played great. You gave you open the door for him,

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Speaker 3: and he made all the throws at fourth and eight.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that. That's one of the great throws

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Speaker 3: the season on the line. But come on, you've got

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Speaker 3: to be able to close out some of these games.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the Packers in Matt lafore So.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna have to disagree with you too already. And

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Speaker 10: I'm saying that because the Packers lost their best player

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Speaker 10: in Michael Parsons during the season, and they put all

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Speaker 10: their eggs in one basket to win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 10: this year when they acquired Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: But they were twenty one three in that game without

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 10: The problem is they could not stop the Bears in

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Speaker 10: the second half. Now I do agree with you on

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Speaker 10: one part. The Packers lost the game in the second

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Speaker 10: half when they had three straight drives yep, yep, and

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Speaker 10: you you have to score at least some points or

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Speaker 10: extend the drive changefield position. But they didn't score at all,

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Speaker 10: and the Bears slowly got momentum. They used the crowd

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Speaker 10: on their side, and that's that's how they wanted to

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Speaker 10: gave the game one. And that's their quarter when they

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Speaker 10: punt it three straight times and then in the fourth

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Speaker 10: quarter they punt it again at the beginning of the

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Speaker 10: fourth quarters. So that's how the Packers lost the game.

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Speaker 10: And the defense couldn't stop anybody. But you have to

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Speaker 10: believe that they had Micah Parks on the field. He's

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Speaker 10: good for at least one stop, especially on a critical

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Speaker 10: third down. I truly believe he is. So to me,

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Speaker 10: I think with Florid should stay at least another year.

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Speaker 10: Let's see if they can get healthy.

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Speaker 4: But here's the.

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Speaker 3: Issue, though, is that they have to if you're going

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Speaker 3: to stay. He only got one year left on his contract.

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Speaker 3: You can't make him a lame duck where he's got

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Speaker 3: You got to commit more than that.

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Speaker 10: No, yeah, you do. But coaches get fired all the

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Speaker 10: time with years left in their contract. Maybe you sign

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Speaker 10: them for short contract, a couple of years and see

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Speaker 10: what he does this next season. But this was the

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Speaker 10: time for the Packers because who's to say that the

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Speaker 10: Detroit Lions aren't going to be better next season? You know,

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Speaker 10: the Bears are already coming the Viking.

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Speaker 4: I know the Packers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know the Lions are gonna be better,

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Speaker 3: but that's another story. I argue with you in the

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Speaker 3: off season.

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Speaker 10: Should be better and the Vikings can't get any worse.

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Speaker 10: So this was a huge year for the Packers, but

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Speaker 10: they're ceiling lower. Tremendously was Michael Parks's.

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Speaker 4: Went down without a doubt. Let's go to the other

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Speaker 4: side of this.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and enigma in the sense that his first

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Speaker 1: halves oftentimes you're like, what's going on, why can't we score?

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Speaker 4: Why can't we do this?

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Speaker 1: And then he just says, hold on, let me go

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Speaker 1: ahead and put on the cape and he just goes berserk.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five points in the fourth quarter made some of

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Speaker 1: the most remarkable throws. Rob and I talked about that

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Speaker 1: fourth and eight coming across, running left across his body,

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Speaker 1: I mean, dead eye target.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of just the season? How you

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Speaker 4: know you cover this? This league?

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Speaker 1: Frustrating at times, but how remarkable at times? Him and

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is married. So far what do you make

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Speaker 1: of it?

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Speaker 10: So that fourth and eighth throw was probably the best

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Speaker 10: throw of the postseason.

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Speaker 7: That's far.

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Speaker 10: I'll just say that, yeah, But really, the entire Bears

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Speaker 10: team had has played like that then the entire season.

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Speaker 10: The fourth quarter comebacks and they get behind early and

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Speaker 10: then they just rallied back in the second half. And

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Speaker 10: to me, it's going to come back to bite them,

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Speaker 10: especially when they play a team like the La Rams

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Speaker 10: this weekend in Chicago. But the Rams, in my opinion,

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Speaker 10: are the best and most complete team in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: They struggled. They were ten and a half point favorites

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Speaker 4: against the Pants.

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Speaker 2: Don't know that was crazy.

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Speaker 10: But the Panthers they had all the momentum because they

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Speaker 10: were round behind their home crowd. They heard all the

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Speaker 10: noise that they were going to get blown out, so

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Speaker 10: they played for pride. But I really did not think

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Speaker 10: throughout that game that the Rams were going to lose. Yes,

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Speaker 10: Matthew Stafford had to go in the game when he drives.

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Speaker 10: But to me, the La Rams are going to beat

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Speaker 10: the Bears because the Bears they start off so slow

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Speaker 10: and they rally in the fourth quarter. But that's not

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Speaker 10: going to get it done.

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Speaker 3: Again, we didn't we see Seattle beat the beat the Rams.

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Speaker 3: They were down thirty to fourteen in the fourth order.

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Speaker 10: Then you do back with with without DeVante Adams. You

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Speaker 10: saw that Devonte Adams makes the world a difference for

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Speaker 10: that Rams offense. He opens the passing game up, especially

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Speaker 10: for Punakua. So I can see, yes, Seattle giving the

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Speaker 10: Rams a little bit of trouble. But Seattle and La Rams,

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Speaker 10: they are the two best teams in the NFC. In

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Speaker 10: my opinion, the La Rams are the team to beat

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Speaker 10: in the conference.

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Speaker 4: All right, what about Justin Herbert?

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Speaker 3: Again, I know on and three the offensive line was brutal,

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Speaker 3: but he hasn't been able to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: I know everybody loves him, his size, he's a prototypical quarterback.

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Speaker 4: All that. What do you make of what happened there

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Speaker 4: with the Chargers?

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Speaker 10: So I was talking to somebody today. I feel like

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Speaker 10: Justin Herbert needs to go to a sports by collegist

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Speaker 10: to get his postseason lows and order, because he just

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Speaker 10: does not look like the same quarterback in the postseason. Now, yes,

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Speaker 10: some of it was on the offensive line. A lot

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Speaker 10: of it was on him. He missed a lot of throws,

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Speaker 10: he looked uncomfortable in the pocket. There were times where

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Speaker 10: he had some receivers opened down field and he would

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Speaker 10: not pull the trigger. So some of it is on him.

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Speaker 10: And yes, he had probably the worst offensive line in

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Speaker 10: football that they were unable to fill. The boys led

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Speaker 10: by rashawns Later and Joe all those two standout tackles.

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Speaker 10: But when you had zero to three in the postseason

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Speaker 10: and the last postseason game last year, you have four

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Speaker 10: interceptions in this one, you just looked nervous, unable to

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Speaker 10: rise up to the moment and lift your team up

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Speaker 10: when the game could have been had, especially in early

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Speaker 10: in the second half. Some of the blame is definitely

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Speaker 10: and Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd look at that offensive line being hurt, being injured,

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Speaker 1: missing guys was crucial for that one. More quick one

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Speaker 1: for me, Tyler, you talked about maybe the most complete

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Speaker 1: team in the NFC being the Rams. What about the AFC?

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Speaker 1: Is it the Patriots? And you know how good can

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Speaker 1: they be with that? The defense looked really good, Drake,

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Speaker 1: may I see look good at times at the turnover

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Speaker 1: and the running game was solid as well. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of the Patriots? Are they the most complete

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Speaker 1: team in that conference? Or is it Josh Allens to own?

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Speaker 10: So I'm gonna surprise you and my answer might change

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Speaker 10: in a couple of hours. But the Texans to me

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Speaker 10: are the most dangerous team in AFC. All they need

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Speaker 10: is C. J. Stroud to be a game manager, not

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Speaker 10: turn the ball over again.

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Speaker 4: Good luck, he's got two turnovers in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Are you watching the receivers to catch some balls too?

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Speaker 10: What the heck is the best defense in the NFL?

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Speaker 10: Despite two turnovers, the stealers only have six points thus far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're only winning seven to six and that's

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Speaker 1: the problem.

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Speaker 10: All he has to play is like Joe Flacco when

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Speaker 10: the Ravens. All we have to play like. But I

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Speaker 10: don't sleep on the Denver Broncos because the same thing

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Speaker 10: can be said for Denver. All they have to do

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Speaker 10: is not turn the ball over an offense and let

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Speaker 10: that defense get after people. So I I have my

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Speaker 10: money on the Texas, especially if they win tonight, because

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Speaker 10: they have to steal position players on offense. They just

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Speaker 10: need CJ. Stroud to play like that rookie season CJ.

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Speaker 4: Strout that was three years ago. That's a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: The dude, I'm just saying, if you're the stealer seriously

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Speaker 3: and been dominated with their defense and you're down by

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Speaker 3: one and the half at.

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Speaker 1: Home there at halftime saying exactly.

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Speaker 10: I do agree with you, but.

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Speaker 1: Because they're gonna play better, they haven't made a third down.

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Speaker 4: They're oh for six I think.

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Speaker 3: What at one point, at one point, at one point

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Speaker 3: they were oh for six to start. I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 3: like the second half they're going to play. There was

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Speaker 3: a drop by uh DK that that you saw that

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Speaker 3: one that was a big play that was wide open

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Speaker 3: that hurt them early on offense.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention too, they're not down where they have

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Speaker 1: to become pass relying where they can just.

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Speaker 4: Know that they were in the game right there.

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Speaker 1: You can keep running, you can keep passing sen it

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Speaker 1: up and keep that Texans defense off If you're.

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Speaker 3: Down by eight or nine points, you want to Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers gonna have to throw every down and you not

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Speaker 3: have to.

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Speaker 10: Do that was hugely Texas to do is score one

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Speaker 10: more touchdown and the game is of I don't think

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Speaker 10: the Steelers can score a touchdown on this defense.

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Speaker 1: I think they can get one because too many things

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Speaker 1: happen to guys, slips and DK's open. But I get

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Speaker 1: your point, and that's why the Steelers have to be like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it, Tyler, Tyler.

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Speaker 4: I have a good one.

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Speaker 10: You too. Enjoy the game, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt, appreciate it. Yeah, we'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about this before we get out of here. Plus Les

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Speaker 1: You know I just got better. I got my lung

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Speaker 4: Jerome.

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Speaker 5: I'm not your I'm not your aunt enemy, but could

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Speaker 5: with that? Man? I got no time for that. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I got no time for that. Home at homer Craft,

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Speaker 5: Go fronwhere with that? Give me give me some real journalism.

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Speaker 5: She's getting real coss to steven A. Smith category man.

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Speaker 4: So we killed a.

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Speaker 1: We finally agree, you guys, okay, because that that's not journalism.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody says. Oh well, she's just

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Speaker 3: a local, she didn't do any harm.

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Speaker 1: She's it's great that Pat McAfee, it's great. Down some positivity.

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Speaker 1: All of journalists are negative or whatever. No, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we live in the world now where all these guys

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Speaker 1: want to be thanks for the call, coddled and babied.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be criticized. That is what it is.

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Speaker 3: They want to make millions of dollars, not be held

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Speaker 3: accountable and not be criticized since when. And I'm telling

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Speaker 3: you guys out there, you don't want to live in

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Speaker 3: a world without.

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Speaker 4: The free press. You don't want to live in that world.

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Speaker 1: Go look at all these other countries and what people

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Speaker 1: are going through where they're in uh, state run media,

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Speaker 1: state run media, and then poverty, and they can't get

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Speaker 1: information and they're getting robbed blind and what's being projected

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Speaker 1: is only great things. We're fine, and it's like no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have to your point, you have real

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Speaker 1: journalists who can go into these places. You know, we

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Speaker 1: need watch dog and say, hey, this is actually what's

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Speaker 3: And that's why journalism is important. And for all these

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Speaker 3: knuckleheads and all these people like it just drives me.

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Speaker 3: It really bothers me as somebody who has been in

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Speaker 3: this business for forty years and went journalism school Columbia

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Speaker 3: and has a master's and teach journalism.

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Speaker 4: Journalism is very important.

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you guys, be careful the shows you

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Speaker 3: listen to and they're bamboozling you. They're telling you, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got Nick Saban on. He's gonna break it down.

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban is a paid is a paid a guest

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Speaker 3: to come on these shows. Aaron Rodgers was a paid

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Speaker 3: guest to be on Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 1: What what are you getting? Seriously, He's gonna ask the

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Speaker 1: tough questions to the guy. He's paying to come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna piss you off and ask you the tough question.

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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it gets tricky when you start doing it.

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Speaker 1: And again against tricky, uh broh, because you have so

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Speaker 1: many persons who aren't diving into the journalistic end of

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Speaker 1: it on massive platforms and the average Joe's just picking

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Speaker 4: Get stuff all of time. Context.

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Speaker 1: It can be sports, it can be social commentary, it

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Speaker 1: could be you know, politics, and always go because again

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Speaker 1: you talk about journalism, but understanding, let me check the background.

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Speaker 1: What's the context? Women's the question? Women's a fit and

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Speaker 1: always debunked nine out of ten of them, And man,

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Speaker 1: this is all right?

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Speaker 4: He didn't me. Did you hear the full interview? Oh

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Speaker 4: my bad?

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Speaker 1: I just thought together, like, no one does the full research.

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Speaker 4: Why did they say this? What was the question? When

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Speaker 4: did they say this?

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Speaker 1: And it was an accurate People always take a snippet

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Speaker 1: and then they just put it and you see what

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Speaker 1: he said or what I'm like, dude, what's the whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Even with like videos like I want to get that deep.

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Speaker 3: Social all I'm gonna do is say, stay with the

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Speaker 3: odd couple. Okay, we're not right all the time, but

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be honest with you. Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 3: be honest.

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Speaker 4: So how we gonna end it?