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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called the Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual Bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear,

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Speaker 1: American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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Speaker 1: to be as rugged as the place. As we explore. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've got an eclectic group of turkey hunters here from

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Speaker 1: my hometown of Mina, Arkansas. And did anybody think it

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Speaker 1: was funny when koy House, a storyteller on our Last

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Speaker 1: Story Turkey Story podcast, said Steve my grandpa. Everybody knows Steve.

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Speaker 1: Steve Phillips is here. Coy House is Grandpa. Everybody knows Steve.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows everybody in the world. Steve Phillips is here.

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Speaker 1: Koy House to my left, coy you did a good job, man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Didn't y'all think he did a good job? Man?

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Speaker 1: I think you're the youngest feature guest on the Bear

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Speaker 1: you're on the actual bear Grease pot you know. So

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Speaker 1: this is the render for people who maybe have not

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Speaker 1: listened to Bear Grease before Bear Grease podcast is documentary

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Speaker 1: style podcast where we do these kind of in depth stories.

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Speaker 1: The last one that we're gonna talk about today, it

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Speaker 1: was a was a stories podcast. We had eight different

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Speaker 1: storytellers and Coi was one of them. Nineteen years old. Man, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: you did good. Thank you, you did good. That man's

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Speaker 1: taught me just about everything right there. Yep, I guess

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Speaker 1: I better give him credit for it. Yeah. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: to Cooy's left is a longtime friend of mine, Joe Lyles,

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Speaker 1: who is now a retired for service law enforcement agent.

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Speaker 1: That's great. The only reason you're here is because you're retired.

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm retired now and retired from United States

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Speaker 1: for Service as a full time law enforcement officer. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back to you. He introduced. Everybody sounds good,

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Speaker 1: Joe Lyles, Steve Phillips, and then my dad, Gary Believer Nukam.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you, Dad, Good to be here. Dad's

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Speaker 1: got a story on the next podcast. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're doing two stories podcasts. Two Dad's left is Andy Brown.

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Speaker 1: Andy always good to have you, good to be here

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Speaker 1: man for real, and he's a hero on the Beargreas podcast.

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Speaker 1: all the stories. So it's always good, always good to

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Speaker 1: have Andy. But um, Joe, you're you're How long were

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Speaker 1: you in law enforcement for the for Service with the

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Speaker 1: Forest Service? I started in September of two thousand and

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Speaker 1: had just a little bit over twenty two years. And

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Speaker 1: a period of time. I was for three and a

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Speaker 1: the US for Service. But the other career before that,

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Speaker 1: a lifelong turkey hunter since nineteen eighty three. That's when

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Speaker 1: I was out. I was out, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: well bating bears? And he checked my I think you

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Speaker 1: And I know for one day he called me at

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Speaker 1: That that is a good one. Um well, uh, I

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Speaker 1: I think we heard eighteen gobblers. That's still to this

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Speaker 1: to say his eighteen, which still talks about that. It

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Speaker 1: was they were everywhere. Yeah, and you know from years

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Speaker 1: they're just not here. You know, when they say sixty

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Speaker 1: more than that, but it really is. You know a

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Speaker 1: Gary's dad, Lewin, who was a bird hunter, a quail hunter.

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Speaker 1: able to share with him. That's great, man, Dad. Which

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00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: which story on that series did you stood out to you?

423
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: They were all excellent, I mean every stink in one

424
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: of them. But I got to think, and the tie

425
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: goes to the runner. But this sit in baseball, is it?

426
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: So whatever you want? So I said, the tie goes

427
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: to the kid man. I liked Coy's story, yeah, I

428
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: mean really, the fire on, I mean, all of them

429
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: were just unbelievable stories. So I just go with Ki's

430
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: because he was He's such a baby, look at him,

431
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: just a little beat. He gay, played football, play college football.

432
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: Look yeah, you like Hank Berdine's story too, Oh I did?

433
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: I love those Mississippi guys and oh Roy, I love

434
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I love the way he talks. Oh yeah, man, you

435
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: know he'd go I can't even repeat how he talks.

436
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: But it was just it just made the story. You know,

437
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: he had this turkey, did I mean, what would he

438
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: say instead of take it to the fixed Turkey. Hey

439
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: Roy Clark. Roy Clark is well. We just did a

440
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: big film about him that came up this week on

441
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: the Mediator YouTube channel, A whole film that he was

442
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of the star of. He really is a relic

443
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: and that's a great descriptor of what he is. A

444
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: relic of Appalachian culture. And he has the strongest best

445
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: accent for that East Tennessee that I've ever heard. He

446
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I love that guy, and uh, he's a y'all wouldn't

447
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: know much about him. I said it on the podcast,

448
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: But he's a he's as good a bear hunter. I

449
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: mean those guys have killed I mean Roy Clark. I

450
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: don't even want to say how many bears I believe

451
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: he's killed. I mean it'd blow your mind legally, I

452
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: mean they but he's a bear hunter. But he didn't

453
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: even talk about turkey hunting. But I was at his

454
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: house one day. I said, you know, he had turkey

455
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: beards and stuff around. You know, I knew he's a

456
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: turkey hunter. Was like, how'd you do last year? I mean,

457
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: this is when he's in his seventies, And he said, oh,

458
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: I killed five last year. He killed three in Tennessee

459
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: in two, and he from his house you can see

460
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: North Carolina. So the North Carolina border is just like

461
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: a mile from his house, you kind of see off

462
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: down the mountains. But yeah, just I like just hearing

463
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: him talk. It's funny. Yeah, And like I said in

464
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: that podcast, when you're talking about stories, people kind of

465
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: expose different parts of their life, like like Coy did

466
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: when he said that his grandparents led him drive to

467
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: the to the to the place when he was fourteen.

468
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: I like that. And then Roy Clark said, yeah, then

469
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: my boys come up through there and they was a

470
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: drinking and I know one of them could tell the truth,

471
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: and I knew one of them was pretty truthful. I

472
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: thinks what he said. Yeah, And you know, it's just

473
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: it's just funny the details that that that you know,

474
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: some people would put in there. But then that was

475
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: a heck of a hunt. You know, they hunted that

476
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: white turkey for for for you know, for two weeks

477
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: on public land. Did you see that turkey when you

478
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: were at his house. Oh yeah, it's beautiful. It really

479
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: is a beautiful turkey. I put a picture of it

480
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: on my Instagram. Yeah, it was a beautiful turkey. But yeah,

481
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: Roy Clark, he's just fun to hear talk. And then

482
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: Hank Birdine, the guy from Mississippi, see the guy that

483
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: he shot the gobble, He shot the gobble. He said

484
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: he left his window down. You heard me comment out

485
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: he say, left his window down so that his wife

486
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: would snuggle up next to him. And so you can

487
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: hear those turkeys gobbling. Morning said, get out now. Hank

488
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: Hank is ah, he's ah. I wasn't joking when I

489
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: said that. He is like an ambassador for Mississippi. He's

490
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: a big writer. He's written several books all about the

491
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: South and those guys. So he's from He's from a

492
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: suburb of Greenville, Mississippi. Okay, in Greenville, Mississippi. It's on

493
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: the Mississippi River is where he said. In the At

494
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: some point in the last hundred years there were more

495
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: writers per capita in Greenville, Mississippi than anywhere in the country.

496
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: There were a lot of Southern writers that came out

497
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: of Mississippi. And it's kind of a it's kind of

498
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: unique being around because Hanks the writer, h Robert Hittneil Junior,

499
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: the guy that told about the Flaming Turkey. He's a

500
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: he's written fifteen books. Um, they just think different than

501
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys I've been around. It was

502
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: interesting and he had all these writing buddies lined up.

503
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: A couple of them couldn't come, but uh, but they

504
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: they they have choreographed stories that they tell, like Robert

505
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: hitting Hill Junior. He's eighty one, and I mean, you

506
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: know he's told that story his whole life. But I

507
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: mean they just kind of they just kind of have

508
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: the way, you know, the way they tell that story.

509
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: And Hank tells stories like that too. But now I

510
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: like those stories. You know that bird, I'm thinking he

511
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: said that bird, can't you know he shoots he shoots

512
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: the bird. Somebody shoots the birthday miss. The bird comes

513
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: back the next week and and he's he's doing this

514
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: shaking his head like he's goblin. But he's like God's man.

515
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: The last time I gob hold, I mean, everybody's shooting

516
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: at me. So he wanted a gobbling shaking his old head. Yeah,

517
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: what a story. Old Hank almost as good as coys.

518
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: And this is old Grandpa. All right, hey, and you

519
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: know you know I started Did you notice I started

520
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: the podcast with Andy's story? Yeah? I did that on purpose. Man,

521
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta get him hooked to get him coming in. Man,

522
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: we'll see. Hey, one thing, Steve don't even remember. You know,

523
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: he's getting old enough to wear his brains getting a

524
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: little soft. But the first time he ever turkey hunted,

525
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I took him, okay, and within two weeks, telling you

526
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: it was in two weeks, he was a better turkey

527
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: hunter than I was. And remember it. He don't remember that,

528
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, we would we would scout deer together, and

529
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: when turkey season rolled around, I said, hey, man, let's go.

530
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: He didn't know anything about it. He didn't know anything

531
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: about it. So I took him. Of course I taught

532
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: him a lot more than Andy did. But so anyway,

533
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: he don't even remember it. But Clay Baby was the

534
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: same way. I mean, here as stupid little kid running

535
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: around school. He didn't know anything, he even know what

536
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: a turkey looks like. Well, I take him out and

537
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: get some goblin, and why take him to my little

538
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: private area. And I swear, within two weeks, I'm I'm

539
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm you think I'm kidding. Within two weeks he can

540
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: call better than me. He's already killing birds on his own.

541
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Steve with the same way, man. I mean, I'm like going,

542
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like a ned and the third first reader.

543
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I think they used to say, you know, but you

544
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: know they learned real quick. When you remember going hunting

545
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: with him? Do you know we went deer scouting? We

546
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember us try hunt. Is

547
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: that a little goofy looking gun you had, if you

548
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: had that tennis ball or something? Yeah? What was that?

549
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Clay NERF football? Yeah, he's got it. He's got a

550
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: little short, twenty something inch barrel gun. Is that legal?

551
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore? Short? He had a he had

552
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: a Nerf football, NERF ball taped and CAMEO taped to

553
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: the back of it, so it butt of it's about,

554
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, four or five inches further than so you

555
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: gotta put it way out here and then bring it

556
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: into your shoulder. But it I don't shoot it. I

557
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: shot at one time and about broke my fat Think

558
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: you'll kick you really bad. Oh man, it's a hoot

559
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: to shoot. Man, I've told you, I've told you guys

560
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: the story before. But I went to a little rock

561
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: to buy a gun. I don't know why a little rock,

562
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: but that's where I was headed and uh. I walked

563
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: into first Bucks and Ducks right around Benton and I

564
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: walked in, and I wanted a five hundred Mossburg or

565
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: a eight seventy and uh. The guy said yeah. He said,

566
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I got a turkey gun right here, and he pulled

567
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: that little it's like a New England arms came pretty

568
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: little gun, plastic stock, fore arm, pick it up. I

569
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: mean it weighs nothing, and you know you can shove

570
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: a three and a half inch magnum in sucker. And

571
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: so I said, hey, that's the gun. I won't he

572
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: said the guy it's used. The guy took it shot

573
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: at one time, brought it back to I mean, you

574
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: can't shoot that gun. I said, that's what I want.

575
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: That's the gun I want. So I bought it, brought

576
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it home. We pulled up right out here. Clay come

577
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: running out of the house. Did you get a gun?

578
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I said yeah. And Judy and I had to go

579
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: to a chamber banquet or something, and he said, can

580
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I go shoot that, daddy? And I said, yeah, I

581
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: take it. Well. I came home and his whole face,

582
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, was shot of you know, that hit him

583
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: in the face the lip almost killed him. And true story.

584
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't like shooting it more people. I used to

585
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: take it out with guys just for the entertainment. But

586
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: he and that's something a city slicker dot. He has

587
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: lost his mind, Zach Nuker. My remember when he shot

588
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: at the thing almost came over his head. But it's

589
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, you put it over your shoulder. You don't

590
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: know you have it. You only shoot a couple of

591
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: times a year. You'd only want to shoot it a

592
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: couple of times a year. When I got that gun

593
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: sided in, you I had to have it worked. I

594
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: took it to the little rocket at gunsmith do a

595
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: lot of work on it, and he got it where

596
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: it shot real good and put a red dot scope

597
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: on it. And to get it sided in it took.

598
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: You know, I had to shoot fifteen twenty times, and

599
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: that finger right there. I thought I was going to

600
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: have to amputate it. You know, that gun come back? Yeah,

601
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: And so he put a moleskin all on the track. Yeah.

602
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Well I put a jersey glove on and taped a

603
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: cigarette but right there on it. So I just got

604
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: a charge out of shooting it. But I finally got

605
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: it side it in, and it's a good turkey gun.

606
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: You still have it now? Oh yeah, yeah, there, Joe.

607
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: To any of those stories stand out to you, definitely

608
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: the one where the boy killed his first turkey there

609
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: at the end. Yes, that's the one. And because I

610
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: can really relate to that, like we talked about before,

611
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: that was probably my most memorable hunt. My youngest daughter

612
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: would have been Emily would have been seventy thirteen years old,

613
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: and that would have been twenty seventeen. We went. We

614
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: went to Kansas and you know, you watch the weather

615
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: up there because what it's done there is gonna be

616
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: so much different than here. So we strike out. We're

617
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: going to Kansas and the weather's bad going up there,

618
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: but we knew that it's going to clear off that afternoon,

619
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: but it was gonna come later. And so we meet,

620
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, my buddy up there and where we go.

621
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: He's at the bowling alley, so he's bowling, you know,

622
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: his bowling league. And he said, man, y'all know where

623
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: to go. Just go on out there. So we've got

624
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: a couple of farms right there we can hunt. So

625
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: here we go is in an alfalfa field. And this

626
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: one place we hunted, it's it's a big trash pipe.

627
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, I guess everybody around there on that piece

628
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: of private just dumps are trash right there. Well, okay,

629
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna set up right here, and this

630
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: is the afternoon. So we get to setting and just

631
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: calling and and nothing, you know, but we know there's

632
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: turkeys there because there's at that time, and even Kansas

633
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Kansas numbers are even lower from where we go because

634
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: where we hunt now there's only one bird limit, but

635
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: you could kill two there at the time. So we

636
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: set up and kind of like Cooy says, we just

637
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: we get dug in. We set him behind some cedar

638
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: trees and cut a few limbs off and get our

639
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: decoys out there. Call for a couple hours, nothing just nothing.

640
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: So we thought, well, it's it's getting laid, so let's

641
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: go on in. We'll get this something deep. We'll come

642
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: back in the morning. We wake up that morning. Weather's awful.

643
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, It's just what you thought it was not

644
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: going to be. It's awful. So we're kind of depressed.

645
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: But we thought, you know, we'll know where we're gonna go.

646
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: So we just went on out there anyway. But where

647
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: we went and the ground was horribly hard. So that

648
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: night we went to Walmart and bought some boat seats,

649
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, weird colors all they had then I think

650
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I still haven't one of them black and white, and

651
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: but that's what we went out there and set on.

652
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there and it's getting daylight. Then we

653
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: ain't hurt anything. And I'd be thinking if the turkey

654
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't gobble right above us, I mean, we could you

655
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: once it got light enough, you could see that turkey.

656
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: And if we had just set there that evening. He

657
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: came in there looking for that hen that evening. So

658
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: we were sitting there and it, you know, it finally

659
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: got light enough and he's just gobbling ever breath. I

660
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: thought she's gonna get this turkey. So by that time,

661
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: he hops off, pitches off right out in front of us,

662
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: and she could never get on that turkey, never could

663
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: And she finally shot at that turkey, misses it, you know,

664
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: shoot some limbs off, and I'm like, god, Lee, that

665
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: was close. And so we were kind of depressed and

666
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: the weather's getting bad. It's still bad, you know, blowing rain,

667
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: and I called my buddy, he's with a sheriff's office

668
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: up there and he's a man. Just I know there's

669
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: turkeys there, and we were talking about going to a

670
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: couple of different places. Got off the phone with him

671
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: taking the turkey didn't go, and we were real we

672
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: were kind of out and open build then, so we

673
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: eased a little bit closer to you know, it's a

674
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: drainage up there. They got drains and stuff. It's just

675
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot different country. So about that time, two of

676
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: them got to go up and you know, here we go.

677
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: So we backed off again, just right as against this

678
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: little creek drainage and got to call in a little bit. Boy,

679
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: here they come. So I set her down in front

680
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: of me, and these turkeys come right in there clothes

681
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: and at this time I say, she's young and but

682
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: and I had her shoot my little banel em too,

683
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: that little twelve gage. It didn't kick a lot. And

684
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: so she got in there and she got right in

685
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: my lap, and these turkeys came right down thirty yards office.

686
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I said, you shoot that first one you can. So

687
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: she shoots that thing and it just folds up, and

688
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm Michael, holy cow, she got it. And then that

689
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: other one ran off and they give it didn't start

690
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: just looking at that one. So I started making some

691
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: fighting purrs and it came right back and she killed

692
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: that turkey. So we went from just a low moment

693
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: until she killed two of them. Oh that's great, man. Yeah,

694
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: And that was twenty seventeen. We've been back every year

695
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: since and except for the year of COVID, and she's

696
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: killed turkeys one more time then we've left. Some years

697
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: up there we didn't kill anything, but you know, that's

698
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: my turkey hunter, and she she still goes with me,

699
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: and she's gonna go this year. Is going back to Kansas.

700
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll go to Kansas since you know my

701
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: turkey hunting buddy Greg Burns, which y'all knowing well, one

702
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: of the best turkey hunters that I know, you know,

703
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think Greg's gonna go with

704
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: me this year, but you know, we're gonna go back.

705
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: And we talked about going to Oklahoma. You know, we've

706
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: got a couple of spots in Oklahoma. We go and

707
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: you'll see I've hunted in South Dakota, Nebraska. Uh and

708
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: South Dakota is beautiful too, you know. Yeah, you know,

709
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Clay and I went to Mississippi with Greg and the

710
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: pharmacy up there, Terry. Yeah, and uh, we had you know,

711
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun in Mississippi. One of

712
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: the best turkey hunters I know. Yeah, yeah, And he's

713
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: really good, extremely knowledgeable man. You can ask him anything

714
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: and he knows a little bit about everything. And truly

715
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: does you know, not like Quincy says, is that the truth? No,

716
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: that's the truths Yeah, yeah, he knows a little bit

717
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: about everything. The Garvin Gibbons story at the end of

718
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: that podcast I had to include. I mean that guy

719
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: he uh, he's killed twenty three elk with a bow

720
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: before his accident, you know, at all those That was

721
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: what I enjoyed his just because of that, um the

722
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: thank you killed twenty three UK in twenty four years.

723
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: In fact, I think maybe and I'm not I don't

724
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: know this for sure, but he had a brother. I

725
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I think it worked with the same company I did,

726
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: and he had told me the story about his brother

727
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: getting hurt in the Teresa and accident. Had had that conversation.

728
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that intrigued me about it

729
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: the most was the fact when he talked about how

730
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: he's had to learn to get to a blind and

731
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: have patience. And he's been killing more turkeys that way

732
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: than he was ever was running in gun. Well. And

733
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: the thing of it is, and I don't think you

734
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: would disagree with this, is there was a time with

735
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: turkey that you could run a gun. But I think

736
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: the patience still now is just like it was back

737
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: when I started hunting. I had an uncle that would

738
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: go get in a blind. He didn't go anywhere. He

739
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: said it in the blind and called ever twenty five minutes.

740
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: And his theory was if they answer me, they'll be

741
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: over here after a while. And he killed lots of

742
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: turkeys that way. And I think it's trend did back

743
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: that way. You know, turkeys they know the patent, don't

744
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: ever called. It's out there. I mean, people, you know

745
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: you gotta do something different. I mean, of course, like

746
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: with me, I don't. I don't turkey, not that much anymore.

747
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: But I just know I have killed a turkey the

748
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: last two out of three years. But it was because

749
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: he's two. We need to go fishing. But anyway, that's

750
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: that's the reason I went. But but the trend I

751
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: think is too to call a little and have patience.

752
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: I think in his story was that he learned that

753
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, and I think that was really neat.

754
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good observation to think that

755
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: we're kind of getting back into that with the lower

756
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: turkey numbers. Sure, you can't just pop along the ridge

757
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: and tall you find one that's hot, might have to

758
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: sit on him for a while. And sometimes you think

759
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: how many You look back, like after even I listened

760
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: to that and tell that story and everything, and I

761
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: look back and I think how many turkeys could I

762
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: have actually killed if I just would have just sat

763
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: there and and been patient. You know, one might start

764
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: gobbling lay over here and you take off after him.

765
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: But I mean, just think if I'd just sat there,

766
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: you know. So I really that you know, that story

767
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: kind of at home with me too. And and also

768
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: you know with his deal is you never know when

769
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: your last thing right hunt can be. You never know

770
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: what can happen. Anything can happen. I mean, you can

771
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: be out there and and it just like just like that,

772
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and it can be over with just like her. If

773
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: we just sat there that afternoon, that turkey came in there,

774
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: that any roosted back there, And I want to add

775
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: to that, I went back two weeks later and killed

776
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: that turkey. And after she had killed those I when

777
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: the regular season came in, I came back and killed

778
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: that turkey, you know, And I was up with Greg

779
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: at that time. I didn't have the patience to do that.

780
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: And I knew, you know, I really knew better. But

781
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm just not geared to be a good deer hunter

782
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: or turkey hunter. But I know one day at an

783
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: area that was just like you said, and he just

784
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean tilled up the whole side of a mountain

785
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: and wasn't a big mountain, but it was still on

786
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: a mountain. And I called and I couldn't believe. I

787
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything to gobble, man, nothing's goblin. And so

788
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: I you know, I piddled around there till about nine

789
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: o'clock or so, and uh, finally I just thought, well,

790
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call and just be patient, and I'm just

791
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: gonna sit here, but I'm gonna cheat a little bit.

792
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a nap. And so I stretched out

793
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: on the side of a hill. Man. I was so

794
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: I went to sleep, man, I was sound to see

795
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: if you called a bunch, yeah, I called a bunch

796
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: and went to sleep. Boy. I mean, I hear footsteps

797
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: all around me, man, and I opened one eye and

798
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: there's two big old gobblers there. Mean they're not from

799
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: here to that red chest. They're looking to me like going,

800
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: it's a big old ancre and there name. So I tried.

801
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: You know, I had my gun, but you know I was.

802
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: I was ready to shoot, but I couldn't get on

803
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: the mood anyway. M But patience is really going. Yeah.

804
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet, I bet all of us would

805
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: have killed, especially with lower numbers more turkeys if you

806
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: just if you sat there for two or three hours. Um. Now,

807
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil Andy's story. You're on the next

808
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: one too. Andy, tell them about a turkey that did

809
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: something unique. Mo's story about that turkey flying across the valley.

810
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever had one to do that, Steve, fly

811
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: in real far that you could see come in, Oh,

812
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: come in to you. Yeah? It most so, most chef.

813
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: One of Mo's stories was he had he was calling

814
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: in the evening and had a bird fly across a

815
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: big canyon and roost and he came back in the

816
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: next morning and killed it. Uh. Now have you had

817
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: you Now you tell a story about a flying turkey.

818
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Don't tell that one because they're gonna hear that later.

819
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: But have you ever seen one fly to you across

820
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: the big valley? I went I want one morning and

821
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: I don't know remember if I told you this story

822
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: or not. But anyway, I had went by myself one morning,

823
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: which I don't I've never liked to hunt by myself.

824
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: I always like some it's it's fun to share, you know.

825
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, I went in one morning, pulled top the

826
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: mountain and become a huge rain the night before, and man,

827
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: them a water hollers would just it just sound like

828
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Niagara Falls. And but when I got right in on

829
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: top of the mountain, it was I mean I was

830
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: up there double early, early early, and just about the

831
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: time I got up there, right out across the water

832
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: holl or north of me, over there on the top

833
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: of the little knob, one put in and all the

834
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: goblin he'd done over there, And there wasn't no going

835
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: to him because backside of the mountain I'm own, it's

836
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: just straight off right into a water holler. You got

837
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: to cross the holler and it was just a disaster.

838
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know what, I don't like to

839
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: call a turkey on rust, but I'm gonna let him

840
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: know I'm here. Now. This is early, I'm talking early, okay.

841
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: And so I stood there and he got be four

842
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: or five times. He was gobbling away from me, and

843
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: finally I just call real loud to him. And when

844
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: I did, you could tell he turned on the limb.

845
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: He started gobbling right at me, and I thought, you

846
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: know that rascal. I mean, he's a long ways over there.

847
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I said that dude might pitch out and come over here.

848
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: So I just backed up her against the big pine

849
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: trees a little saddle in the mountain there, and I

850
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: kind of got my gun up on my knee, and

851
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not even close. I didn't think

852
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: to fly down, and all of a sudden I just

853
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: heard of it's right out there, I said, just like

854
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: someone dropped one out of a hell. Like I said,

855
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: I said that, uh, I sound like that dude just

856
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: live right out there. And he was kind of my

857
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: I had my gun this way and it was kind

858
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: to my left, and about the time, the best I

859
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: could describe it, I just seen the white cap, you know,

860
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: on his head. He just come right up over the

861
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: top of them the mountain there, and I said, dang,

862
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: that's that dang turkey. I mean it is early early,

863
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: and so it's just wide open. There ain't nothing between

864
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: me and him. But huckleberry bushes down through there, you know.

865
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: And there's a little tree about I don't know, three

866
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: or four inches in diameter down there. And when he

867
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: when he when he walked in und the tree, I

868
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: moved my gun. Well, I did, you know how they'll

869
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: do he'd give me one of these back. But you

870
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: know he'd stepped in, and you know he wasn't he

871
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: stepped out looked like that, and about that time he did,

872
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: he just blew out there like a quail. Really, he

873
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: made a bad mistake, though I unwound hemmy with oh, well,

874
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: don't let me back up what he did that. I

875
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: just shot that tree. He's nearly halving two down there.

876
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I bet i'd never put a pelted him. He'd just

877
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: boiled up what he did. I hit him with a

878
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: whole load what he would out there. But he was

879
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: and I know there was people in that country when

880
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: uh I had a boy shot that off the rust,

881
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: but I did, dovid, I just want him on the ground.

882
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: But he was a big wow, but he flew. I'm

883
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: sure he fell a quarter to me across the hallard

884
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: right there. Hey, you guys are really good turkey hunters.

885
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: What's the closest y'all have had a gobbler come to you?

886
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: You know? I told the story here one time about

887
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: having one right here. You know what I mean. Have

888
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: y'all had him? How close have you had him? I've

889
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: had him. I had one Steve kill one morning that close.

890
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Remember that was Steve was gobbler right in my right,

891
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: in his right in my ear. I couldn't shoot him.

892
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: I had to let him walk around. He walked up

893
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: I could get Oldie by black this. He just comes right.

894
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: He was supposed to come up a leg to him.

895
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: He was supposed to come up a leg to me.

896
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: And he's sitting up there calling, and there's a blowdown tree.

897
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: And he walked on the wrong side of that blow down,

898
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: big old tree. And I had to sit there and

899
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: watch the turkey out of the left of my eye.

900
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: He walked right up that tree, right up to Andy

901
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: gobbled and blowed his head off right in his face.

902
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: But he made the mistake. He turned and he come

903
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: down my side of the tree and I killed. I

904
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: have got video, Gary, I've got video of a turkey

905
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: gobbling when he steps on my boot. I'm laid down flat,

906
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: got my video camera, and I had already called his

907
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: turkey up once and I went around on another mountain

908
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: and he caught him up again, and he gobbled and

909
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: he flicks his on my gobbled right about from here

910
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: to Andy's knee. I found it the other day going

911
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: through videos, and I said here, I showed it to him.

912
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm laid down and that turkey's wings hit my boot

913
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: when he walks out, and he walks about from here

914
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: to Gary's side beside there, and I call him again

915
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: and he gobbles and he gobbles off the mountain. And

916
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: that's another story the old Kendra Marshall, y'all know, heard

917
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: when she was When she was she was probably about fourteen.

918
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: Kevin had to work opening day of youth season, and

919
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: so I took her and Steve, I'd remember you took

920
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: baby John Barton. And there was a whole water of

921
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: us out there. You know. Anyway, Kender never killed a

922
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: turkey before. And uh, anyway, we got in there, and

923
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean we got in on there was there was

924
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: a whole water. And I had a single barrel. I said,

925
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: got a single barl itthicis twenty gage. And I had

926
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: Kendra setting right here. And anyway, we got set up

927
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: and there was three big gobblers and I I called them,

928
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: and here they come. I mean they just they just

929
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: hear they. I mean, they were just coming. And Kendra

930
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: was of course, you know, I mean she was all excited.

931
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: I was too, and I'm not kidding you. They were.

932
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: It was kind of straight off. And when they popped

933
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: up right there, they wasn't no fathom, Joe. I mean,

934
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: they wasn't ten foot ten twelve foot. And I said,

935
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 1: I said, shoot, it doesn't shoot that dude. Kendra, of course,

936
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: of what, you know, shot what she this slick missed it.

937
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean she never cut a feather out of it.

938
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: And they just blew up whatever was single. It's a

939
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: single shot. And anyway, Kender had long face, and you know,

940
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: I was, I was just sick far and I said,

941
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: I said, just let's just coover jets. I said, they

942
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of blowed out in differrection directions. I said, let's

943
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: just sit around a while. I said, him, dus liable

944
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: start gobbling again. So anyway, to make a long story short,

945
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: we set there about thirty minutes and in a minute,

946
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: right off down the mountain there one gobble and hum,

947
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: I said, I told Kendray, I said that AND's in

948
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: trouble right there. And so we got down there and

949
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I got her dug in there and and uh, I

950
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: called him and shet man here he come, just doing anything.

951
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: And he come up there and he got up heard

952
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: about thirty steps and I mean she killed him dead

953
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: or in the markle down there. You know, that dude

954
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: went the plopping and she goes, what do I do now,

955
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: I said, jump back to get him, you know, seeing

956
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: down there on top of old Turkey. But anyway, I

957
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: mean I've had him close, but that's about as close

958
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: as I mean, of course, but she was. It was.

959
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. One of my other grandsons, Aaron Ferguson,

960
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: I called his first one up for him. We went

961
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: out to their place out there and had went to

962
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: morning before on Sat. We went on Saturday youth hunt

963
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: and got after Turkey had set up a blind. They

964
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: gobbled got hens with it and couldn't do anything with it.

965
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: So I told him, I said, we'll go back in

966
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: the morning. I know exactly what he's gonna do. So

967
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: we got out there double early, and Aaron and I

968
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: went across this little old cut. They got out there

969
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and pulled in on his leg. And there's a road

970
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: up and then there's a skitter trail that runs down. Well,

971
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: there's a big old oak tree, I mean a great, old,

972
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: big oak tree. I set him on the one side

973
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: there where the skitter trail comes down, and I just

974
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: got on the side of the big oak and I called.

975
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: When I called him, he flew off and he gobbled

976
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: up in the main road. Or every time he says goble,

977
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I want you to gobble it. So I called him.

978
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: He gobbled two three times in a little bit. I

979
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: told Aaron, I said, now look, I'm gonna call him.

980
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: Hens up first, they're gonna come down that skit trail.

981
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: And I said, just let him walk by. And I said,

982
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: when you see that gobbler, I said, he's gonna be

983
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: bad close. He's gonna be ten steps or closer. Well,

984
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: what I didn't realize when I sit airing up there

985
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: was a little mound to dirt. He's sitting against that

986
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: oak tree. But there was a little mound to dirt

987
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: about three foot from him that was up. So that

988
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: turkey he comes down through there and he gets the

989
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: hens come. There was four of them, single file, and

990
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: I'm watching him. I'm sitting there and I'm looking. I said,

991
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: there goes one. He's right behind him. I could see

992
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 1: he's fanned out and he's coming. And that turkey comes

993
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: right in there and he gets right there and I

994
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: hit that slate, called this a little bit, And he's

995
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: only about twenty yards right there, and he gobbles indirectly.

996
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: He starts turning. He's coming right to it, and I'm

997
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: sitting there, like Andy is. I'm going shoot him shooting,

998
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: Oh god, shoot him. I closed my eyes, you know,

999
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: I closed my eyes. He's bad close. He steps up

1000
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: on that dirt mound and he's about three foot from

1001
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: that end of that gun barrel, and he shoots him

1002
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: and blows his head off, kills him dead as a

1003
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: micro right there. I get up and the turkey don't

1004
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: even flop. I mean, said, what are you waiting on?

1005
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: He said, Paula, I couldn't see nothing but that fan

1006
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: until he stepped right up on that deal look right,

1007
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: and he said, he almost scared He almost scared me

1008
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: to death, the old shy because he scared down. He

1009
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: couldn't see nothing but the fan. But the turkey stepped

1010
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: up on the dirt, maun and he's like, I mean,

1011
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: he's the gun barrel is right there, and he sticks

1012
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: his head up and he he took his whole head off.

1013
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Usually that kind they miss they missed, but he was

1014
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: so close and had that gun barrel. It's the first one.

1015
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he cleaned shot his head off. Wow, of that,

1016
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say. All I could see

1017
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: was his head. Like, I didn't shoot because all I

1018
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: could see was he seen his head. Didn't need their

1019
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: turn you with no head, Clay. You remember when you

1020
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: were a kid, you first right when you first learned

1021
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: how to hunt, you started hunting with some of your

1022
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: buddies pretty close to here, you know, ten miles or so.

1023
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: And uh, you came in one morning saying that this

1024
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: bird came off the roosts, sounded like a helicopter. Yeah, yeh,

1025
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: did y'all kill it? Bird? You remember, No, we never did.

1026
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: Now that that was the first time. It was when

1027
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: I first started hunting by myself. And so you know,

1028
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: when you start hunting by yourself, you start noticing stuff

1029
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: you never noticed before, because when you're being guided, you

1030
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: you know your mentor is interpreting the world for you, you

1031
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: you know. But when you start hunting by yourself, you

1032
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of start noticing stuff. And now we set up

1033
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: way too close. We heard a bird. Goblin set up

1034
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: way too close, and but we're in there way before daylight,

1035
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: and so we were set up good. But we didn't

1036
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: know this gobbler had a bunch of hens with it,

1037
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: and we heard. I wouldn't have known it, but I heard.

1038
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: I heard several turkeys fly down, and you know, I

1039
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: just maybe it's one of the first times I'd ever

1040
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: been that close and heard turkeys fly down, and so

1041
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's what a turkey sounds like

1042
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: when it flies down. And then the gobbler flew down,

1043
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: and it was like, yeah, I told it, it sounds

1044
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: like a helicopter landing in the woods out there in

1045
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: the turkey hit the ground and went the other way.

1046
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: And we never even really were in the in the

1047
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: workings for that turkey. But uh yeah, yeah. So I

1048
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: had a guy I used to work with he come down.

1049
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: I invited him down one time. We were living on

1050
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: north of town at the time, so back in the

1051
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: mid eighties. No, that's not true, because it would have

1052
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: been probably nineteen, probably ninety or ninety one probably. Anyway,

1053
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: he come down from up at up around Ozark Hunt

1054
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: with me and spent the night. We got up next

1055
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: morning and it was it was lightning and thundering and

1056
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: trying to rain. Just a bad, bad morning, you know.

1057
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: But we wasn't gonna get a chance to go anymore.

1058
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: So we went out out west, pulled the end of

1059
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: the mountain, walked all the way into the low gap

1060
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: in the mountain, and uh, when he got Goblin time,

1061
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: it was kind of foggy. No, there was nothing Goblin nowhere.

1062
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: So I told Conrad, I said, let's walk out here

1063
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: east and I said, we'll just kind of set around

1064
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: a while. I'll see what happens. And anyway, we got

1065
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: out there and we sit out we sit out side beside,

1066
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, I'm gonna call a

1067
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit and see if I get one to answer.

1068
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: So I called north. Nothing called again, and about that

1069
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: time you saw about him flying into you, there was

1070
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: three big jakes just lit just like we're sitting right here.

1071
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean they just lit all around, I mean within

1072
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: five yards, I mean just three of them walking around, clucking,

1073
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, like it. And I was gonna Conrade shoot

1074
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: shoot him, you know. Anyway, to make a long story short,

1075
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: I wound up killing a turkey, you know, instead of him.

1076
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: He wouldn't shoot, he couldn't get on them. So anyway, Yeah,

1077
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm down. He thought I was a great little boy

1078
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: a tree. Well, guys, we've uh, we've told some good stories.

1079
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody coming. Anybody, anybody got any closing thoughts here?

1080
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: Just one thought from the guy used to hunt with

1081
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: Greg Burns. You'll always remember the ones you missed or

1082
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: you didn't kill just as much. That's exactly right, probably more.

1083
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: And that's what he said. He said, you will remember

1084
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: them more than the ones you kill. I think the

1085
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: last podcast, well, all the talking I've done, it was turkeys.

1086
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: We didn't kill any. And that's the truth. You'll remember

1087
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: the ones that you did not get. I think Greg

1088
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: ran into Ben rogers Lee, he did. He told me that,

1089
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: and I think Ben told him the story about her

1090
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: almost sitting on a rattlesnake that morning. Door yeah, and

1091
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: over west, Yeah, yeah, but yeah, keep the wild place

1092
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: as well. Keep the wild places wild. Corey. You are

1093
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: you hunting anywhere or other than Arkansas this year? Uh?

1094
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going anywhere this year, Paul. Paul

1095
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: is not taking you somewhere. I looked at it. We

1096
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: went to Nebraska two years ago and then we got

1097
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: a plan. We're gonna go to Florida and we're gonna

1098
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: try and kind of work on our our grand Slam. Okay,

1099
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: so that's our that's our years. Yes, that's me and

1100
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: him's goal is to do that together. And we're gonna start.

1101
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Florida and and I gotta place

1102
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: in Mississippi weekend hunt. So we're probably gonna stop on

1103
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: our way back the Mississippi. I'll tell you Nebraska, and

1104
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: then I went to Arizona. That was one of the

1105
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: I went up in hunting the Indian Nations, you know

1106
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and are something and I'll

1107
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: tell you what it was sleeting that that was quite

1108
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: the memory right there. You know, that night we slept

1109
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: my tent up there, couldn't hardly breathe. You know, the

1110
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: altitude was so dad gum air than We had forty

1111
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: mile hour winds and it was thirty two degrees, you know,

1112
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: in that tent flaps flapping, but we heard eighteen different

1113
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: gobblers wow, and the guys with he killed one and

1114
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: I killed one about nine o'clock. So killed them quick,

1115
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: killed him quick, and you know, we come back to camp.

1116
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: We had to drive like three miles. We could see

1117
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: Colorado from where we were up on top of that

1118
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: mountain and to get phone service. And we come back

1119
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: and it was it was about one o'clock and it

1120
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be even worse. And we're sitting there

1121
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, we were gonna take

1122
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: a nap, you know, and disrest. And I I said, John,

1123
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: is there any reason we're not leaving here? We're gonna

1124
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: get up in the morning. It's gonna be thirty degrees

1125
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: twenty eight degrees and wind blowing. And he said, you know,

1126
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: you're right. We packed up and went to Gallot in

1127
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: New Mexico. We got out of there. Uh oh, hey,

1128
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: we got to end with a poacher story. Joe, did

1129
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: you ever catch any turkey poachers? And now that wasn't

1130
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: your general job, That wasn't that wasn't your boys. You know,

1131
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: I've I've got a couple of real good ones. It's

1132
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: just you know, now I can kind of I can

1133
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: talk about those. You know, this is a long time ago,

1134
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: this would have been, and this is what we needed.

1135
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: This is the kind of energy we needed. A good

1136
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: poaching story. This is the late nineties. I would say

1137
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: probably about nineteen ninety eight. We were in county north

1138
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: of US and at that time I was working with

1139
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: the Poor Service Leo and he's since retired from there,

1140
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: and we got an information of a bait side. So

1141
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: me and my partner, we've found this bait site. So

1142
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: we knew where it was at. We had real good information.

1143
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: But the problem is is you had to walk pretty

1144
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: good ways into it. And so we've made plans. You know,

1145
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: we knew this guy wasn't coming in there really anytime early.

1146
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: So the day that we decided we were going to

1147
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: go in there and you know and catch this guy,

1148
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, it was season at this time. So we

1149
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: rode in there. I rode with the Fourth Service Elio

1150
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: and the undercover vehicle. We get two miles from it,

1151
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: the vehicle breaks down. I'm thinking, your government vehicle. It

1152
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: breaks down. I'm thinking great, So here we go. He's

1153
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: coming in there. So I'm walking. I take out walking,

1154
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: and I get probably within I don't know, quarter to

1155
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: a half a mile, and I can hear a vehicle coming.

1156
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: So at this time I take off running, and you know,

1157
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: and I've got my shotgun. Where are you running? I'm

1158
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: running down a road towards it. Yeah, I'm running towards

1159
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: this vehicle because I knew it was but there was

1160
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: still enough distance that I knew he was coming. We

1161
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: knew which way you come from, and he was coming

1162
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: into that bayside. So I'm taking off running and he

1163
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: beats me to it. So I just back off a

1164
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: little bit, and I yes, he beat me to it,

1165
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: got his truck parked and gets off down into his baitside,

1166
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: and I just pulled back a little bit, and I thought,

1167
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm a giving time to get in there and get

1168
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: good and set up. So probably, I don't know, maybe

1169
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes, I hear the freaking gun go off.

1170
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: I hear a shotgun go off. So here I take

1171
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: off in there, running to him, and whenever he sees me,

1172
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: he sees me like I can't believe this. The Turkey's

1173
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: setting there, flopping his guns leaned up against a tree,

1174
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: and he looks around and he just takes off running.

1175
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: And I mean he just left. He just took off

1176
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: running and red handed, and the turkey and the turkeys

1177
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: setting up there, flopping corn everywhere, feathers flying everywhere. Here's

1178
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: his gun leaned up against the tree, and he's gone.

1179
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't have caught him if you hadn't

1180
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: wanted to. And this is mine. Oh truck's here, Oh god, yeah,

1181
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it gets good. Yeah, yeah, we're not done yet.

1182
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: So I thought, well, what am I gonna do? So

1183
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm a hollerrating, so I knew who it was. I said, well,

1184
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's fine. We know who you are.

1185
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: I've got your gun and your truck. You say this,

1186
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because I know he's not out there,

1187
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a one hundred and fifty yards, but

1188
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: you couldn't caught him. I've done went two miles and

1189
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: then ran in there. That I'm not a heck, I

1190
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: m out of air by then. So yeah, so I've

1191
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: got his gun and I've got the turkey. We come

1192
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: out of the woods to the truck and by this time,

1193
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: the wrecker comes and picks our truck up, and I

1194
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: holler at him on the radio, so it's we'll come

1195
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: on down here. I said, drop our truck there and

1196
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: load his up. So we loaded his truck up on

1197
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: the record and hauled it to town, and I had

1198
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: the shotgun the turkey, and then we impounded his truck.

1199
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: So we get up to the jail, and so, well,

1200
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: just leave him in the woods. Oh yeah, you know,

1201
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know where he is. Yeah, and I can

1202
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: think of another story up there where you loved a

1203
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: turkey hunt a guy hit the woods and call him

1204
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: the next day. But that's a different story. And so,

1205
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: and we knew he's gonna come up there, and we

1206
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: figured he's going to report his truck stolen. You know,

1207
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: that's the big thing when people flee, Well you know

1208
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: someone stolen. I mean, do you put a warrant out

1209
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: for their rest? And I'm not at that time. You know,

1210
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: we knew, we knew who his family was, we knew,

1211
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: we knew all about it. Did you have to take

1212
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: any pictures or anything? But like when you had the turkey,

1213
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: had the gun, Oh yeah, we had all documented everything.

1214
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: And he came up there to the jail. You know,

1215
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: we figured he was gonna report his truck stolen, and

1216
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: I said, why did you run from that? Was I

1217
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna give you any other just walked in. Yeah,

1218
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: because we knew he turned himself in. Well, yeah, because

1219
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: he's wanting his stuff back. He wants his gun and

1220
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: he wants his truck. And then his first question, which

1221
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: you didn't get that, and so my first question was,

1222
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, not anything else, but why did you run

1223
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: from me? And then he said, I don't know, you

1224
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: didn't come up with some excuse. So then I knew

1225
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: he had him, you know, because he didn't deny it then.

1226
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: So he was caught then. Yeah, So later we went

1227
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: through court and you know, he was found guilty and

1228
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he actually played the case is what and

1229
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: what would have happened to that guy? Do you remember

1230
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: that guy at that time? You know he would lose

1231
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: his I don't remember you know exactly what that there

1232
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: you go, I don't really remember what the case, you know,

1233
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: adjudicated ass but you know now he would probably I

1234
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: don't know what baton turkeys is now as far as

1235
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, the violation on that as far as points

1236
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know what tear it is

1237
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: or even And it got to where I didn't work

1238
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of game and fish stuff. We worked more

1239
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: my latter years, you know, just in last year we

1240
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: worked more recreation. You know, I've seen the transition from

1241
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff to worked heavy narcotics and

1242
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: right into here. You know, you work more side by

1243
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: side recreation, which stuff you know, lots of alcohol. But

1244
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen the transition from where you was

1245
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: fighting a lot of narcotics to where a lot of

1246
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: it's legal. Now you've seen a complete shift. But there's

1247
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: tons of stories. You know, if you want to do

1248
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: the story, I can talk about a lot of them.

1249
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: Now you know I can't. And before you want to

1250
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: tell us the story about you were saying you had

1251
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: one that you came to mind that somewhere close um

1252
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: which as far as well you just when you were talking,

1253
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: you looked at Dandy and said, hey, I remember a

1254
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: story somewhere over by you. I'm the one that you

1255
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: might not remember. It was out west of town. I'd

1256
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: went out there scouting turkeys and heard twelve or fifteen turkeys,

1257
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: like three or four days before season, and I went

1258
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: out there two mornings in a row listening, and Joe

1259
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: came in there the one morning when I was there

1260
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: and he said, hasty we do in I said, well,

1261
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in here in the morning. Opening day.

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: I said, there's turkeys in here, and he said, no,

1263
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: don't come in here and them. I do remember that one.

1264
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: He said, that guy's baiting them. And I said, oh, really,

1265
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna be kidding me. There's turkeys there. He said,

1266
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: that's one of their governments. He said, don't come in

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: here any more. He said, wait ten days and then

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: come back. And so I said, okay. When he caught

1269
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: that guy, we got some information on that one. I was.

1270
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: I was with the Fourth Service then and a couple

1271
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: of people called me and said they found that bait.

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: So me and another game, the fish officer, we went

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: in there and we found it, and we came in

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: there the next day and kind of like you said,

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: we got in there really really early, and you know

1276
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: which one we're talking about on this, and we looked

1277
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: this thing over and we thought, you know, he's got

1278
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: to come up from this way, and so we just

1279
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: get set up there and sure enough, you know, turkeys

1280
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 1: go to Goblin, and what happens. He comes in the

1281
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: opposite way and I heard something, turned around, looked at

1282
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: him and he's looking right at me, you know, and

1283
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: he just and I knew who it was at that time.

1284
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sitting there with a rifle. He probably

1285
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: thinks you're a turkey. He thought we were a turkey hunter,

1286
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sitting there with a rifle, you know.

1287
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: And once I, you know, anwunce who we are and everything,

1288
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: He's like, well, you know, I don't know what we know.

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing, you know, the basically, I didn't

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: know nothing. And then I get consent to search his pouch.

1291
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like, no, he's his backpack. Oh,

1292
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing, And he gives me consent to

1293
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: search it, and I pull out the top of a

1294
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: corn sack and then it just he just it goes

1295
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: downhill from there. So yeah, and then we asked where

1296
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: he was staying. So we end up going on the

1297
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: west side over there talking to his father, and by

1298
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: that time, when we pulled up to camp, his father

1299
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: pulls up on it on side by side. It was

1300
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: an ATV at the time, and a turkey on the back.

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01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: You know. It was just you know, and I'm sure

1302
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: they'll hear this. It was just up. It was just

1303
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: a hunch, and we said, we know you're baiting the turkeys,

1304
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have to take us to where

1305
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: you killed that one. He stucks his head and he says,

1306
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: okay you when he took us right to where his bait.

1307
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: And that's another storm. We called the record. We impounded

1308
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: both of those side by sides and everything, and there

1309
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: were ATVs. But it was just a hunch because we

1310
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: knew it. He had done been baiting turkeys, so we

1311
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: knew that one had to be killed over and he

1312
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: just came in and just said, I knew you did it.

1313
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: Take me to it. That's like a good parenting trick

1314
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: when your kid did something, you just hit him hard

1315
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: and they can sixth sense that since sense, especially in

1316
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: law enforcement. You cut them open and see corn in

1317
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: their belly, it might be a hit. Let me ask

1318
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: you this. Joe, years years and years ago, Uh, a

1319
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: friend of mine and I were hunting West Town here

1320
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: in a pretty popular area. A lot of roads go

1321
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: back in there, and we found a site I don't

1322
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 1: remember us calling the game warm because it's probably old,

1323
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: but feathers everywhere. I mean, it looked like a hundred

1324
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: turkeys have been processed in there. I mean, you know,

1325
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: maybe fifty, but I mean it just had you know,

1326
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: it was like at the back of this camp or something.

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: I think I remember that, Yeah, you remember, because I

1328
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: think I think it was. Yeah, it was. It was

1329
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: in the eighties, yeah, and it was it was like

1330
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: a culvisac where there had been a camp. Well I

1331
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: don't know about that. This was off in the woods.

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: Now we might have come to a culvisack, but y'all

1333
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: know where I'm probably talking about. You know, there's a

1334
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: big chicken farm there and you go over a hill

1335
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: and I mean it's just pick trails everywhere, and back

1336
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: in there, not very far from the main road, one

1337
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: of those main roads. It just looked like, you know,

1338
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: pretty substantial guy was with me, you know when he's

1339
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: pretty good turkey hunter, and he couldn't figure it out.

1340
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: It just looked like, you know, at least twenty five

1341
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: thirty turkeys been butchered there, maybe a hundred. I mean,

1342
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: it was just crazy. So I don't know why we

1343
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: didn't call. He might have called a game ward and

1344
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: I can't remember. But anyway, have you ever seen a

1345
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: sight like that where not that much? You know. I

1346
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: interviewed a turkey poacher one time, and we knew he

1347
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: was a very early turkey hunter. And he said his

1348
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: favorite time to go he could get his wife to

1349
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: dropping off. He wouldn't leave the house at ten o'clock

1350
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: in the morning. He said, if I can kill one,

1351
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: if I hear it, I'll kill it. If I can

1352
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: get a turkey to gobble, oh yeah, there you go. Yeah,

1353
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: And he said, I'll kill it. And that's how he

1354
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: done it. He hunted in the middle of the day.

1355
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: You know, because I wished i'd have known him that

1356
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: years ago. I would never have gotten up, you know,

1357
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: out forget chance killing. Oh yeah, and no one's out there.

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. That was a great, great ending car podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, really appreciate everybody being here.