1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. On Friday, we had 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred up nearly one point 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: six percent. It broke above the one hundred day moving 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: average and closed at a seven week high. This advance, 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: by the way, was led by pretty powerful rally in 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: information tech. The S and P Information Tech Index was 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: up nearly two point six percent. And it's kind of 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: interesting too, because we had yields jumping at the shorter 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: end of the treasury curve that's typically a negative for stocks. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: We heard from the head of the San Francisco Fed, 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Mary Daily. She seemed to echo some colleagues in saying 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the Fed might have to hike again. And at the 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: same time, we had some troubling signs where consumer angst 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: is concerned as it relates to inflation. The University of 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Michigan reported a year ahead inflation expectation reading of four 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: point four percent. That's up from four point two percent. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: Despite lower gasoline prices, we had the two year yield 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: jumping roughly six basis points. We closed New York trading 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: at five point zero six percent. Very little movement at 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: the longer end of the curve, and late last Friday, 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the US was threatened with a loss of its top 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: credit rating. Will take a closer look at that. Momentarily, 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: we had some dollar weakness with a Bloomberg Dollar Spot 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: index down around two tents at one percent. Also a 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: little bit of weakness in the Japanese n viz VI, 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: the greenback down about a tenth of one percent, and 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: we've got the n right now one fifty one forty five. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: We'll take another look at markets for you in about 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Brian Doug thanks very much. 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: World News is next talks between the leaders of the 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: US and Cotter regarding trying to get the release of 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: hostages from Gaza, and Baxter has that story and more 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: from the nine to sixty News from in San Francisco. Ed. 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Brian. President Biden first wanted to express 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: his thanks to Shake coming or cooperation and already getting 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: some hostages released and working toward the future. The President 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: the White House has also affirm of this for Palestine 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: as one where Israelis and Palestinians can live side by side. Meanwhile, 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan says there are active 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: negotiations regarding hostages and those missing. On ABC Has Heard On, 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: Bloomberg says they involved the Israelis and the Kataris. 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: We do not know the precise number of hostages. We 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: know the number of missing, and that's the number the 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: Israelis have given, but we don't know how many of 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: those are still alive. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: As far as the. 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 4: Americans are concerned, there are nine missing American citizens as 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: well as a missing legal permanent representative, a green card holder. 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean, while reports at HAMASA suspended prisoner exchange negotiations 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: today citing the bombing at Alshifa Hospital and as really, 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says regarding the hospital, it is 53 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: achieving victory his campaign and is trying to save and 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: protect civilians. 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 6: I would say the ground offensive that we began is 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 6: actually reducing the amount of civilian casualties because the popular, 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 6: the civilian population in Gaza is heeding our call and vacate. 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: And on NBC has Heard On, Bloomberg says they are 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: trying to avoid civilian deaths. 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 6: And I think every civilian death that baby is a tragedy, 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 6: but that tragedy should be placed squarely at the responsibility 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 6: of Hamas that is, keeping its military installations inside hospitals, 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 6: its command posts inside hospitals, inside schools, inside unre n facilities, 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 6: and so on. 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: But Francis Imanuel Maccran, the President on BBC calling for 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: an immediate ceasefire. 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 7: We know what there is. 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: A means in France, but I think there is no 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: justification precisely to attack civilians. 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: And Australia's Foreign Minister Penny Wong is speaking out asking 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: for a tempering of the Israeli attacks in Gaja. 72 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 8: How Israel defends itself matters, and when we affirm Israel's 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 8: right to defend itself, what we have also saying is 74 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 8: Israel must comply and observe with international humanitarian law. 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: But Congressman Mike Lawler, who's in Tel Aviv on ABC, 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: says a ceasefire will not work. 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 9: AMAS is not someone some organization that is going to 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 9: abide by a ceasefire. They are hell bent on eradicating 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 9: the state of Israel and eliminating the Jewish people. You're 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 9: not dealing with rational, reasonable people here. 81 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: And also this afternoon, the Pentagon says it's conducted air 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: strikes against Iran link targets in Syria, it says, against 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: a training facility and a safe house. US Speaker Mike 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Johnson is refusing to impose a thirty percent immediate cut 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: to spending and US asylum laws, as well, pushing back 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: on the right wing conservatives of his party that have 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: held up progress to funding. This is a temporary pause 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: on cuts in hopes of getting Democrats on board so 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: that the government can remain open into next weekend. Global 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: it with Bloomberg News Now in San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter, 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 3: and this is Bloomberg Brian. 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: All right, Ed, thanks very much. 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 6: More. 95 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: Now on US China this week, the White House says 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: that restoring military communications with China is a priority, and 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: it comes ahead of the meetings between President Joe Biden 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: and Shi Jen Ping at the APEX summit in San Francisco. 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan makes the point here 100 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: on CNN's State of the Union. 101 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: When it comes to managing the relationship, ties and communications 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: between our two militaries are critical. The Chinese have basically 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: severed those communication links. President Biden would like to re 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: establish them. And he will look to this summit as 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: an opportunity to try to advance the ball on that. 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: And he's also looking for other practical ways to show 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: the American people that sitting down with Shijimping can defend 108 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: American interests and also deliver progress on the priorities of 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: the American people. 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: Jake Sullivan heard here on Bloomberg Radio. Kin suspended military 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: communications last year to protest then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: visit to Taiwan. The military ties were further complicated when 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Chinese Defense Minister Lee shong Fu was ousted last month, 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: and that left US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin with no 115 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: direct counterpart. And also coming up in a few moments, 116 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: we'll get the expertise of Gregory Corte, Bloomberg White House 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: and Politics correspondent for more on what to expect this week. 118 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Meantime, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is planning to visit 119 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: China again next year. This comes at the invitation of 120 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Chinese Vice Premiere Holy fun. Both officials met for two 121 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: days last week, and they agreed to intensify communication to 122 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: improve US China relations. On Friday, both sides said communications 123 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: will help the two countries avoid misunderstandings and unintended escalation. 124 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: Here is Janet Yellen. 125 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 10: I spoke to Vice Premier her about our goal of 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 10: achieving a healthy economic relationship that benefits both our countries 127 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 10: over time. We do not seek to decouple our economy 128 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 10: from China's. This would be damaging to both the US 129 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 10: and China and destabilizing to the world. 130 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: That is Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Now, this trip to 131 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: China by Yellen will be the second trip there by 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: a Biden administration Cabinet member Brian Well. 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: China's Ali Baba and JD dot Com reported sales increases 134 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: for Singles Day, So that's November eleventh. Blomberks David and 135 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: Glay says more from Hong. 136 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 11: Kong, Ali Baba said more than four hundred brands exceeded 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 11: one hundred million in earnings, but that was after sizeable discounts, 138 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 11: and JD dot Com reported its orders hit new records, 139 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 11: but neither company provided overall revenue figures for the events 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 11: for a second year in a row. Meanwhile, the State 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 11: Post Bureau said Chinese companies handled six hundred and thirty 142 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 11: nine million packages nationwide. On No. 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 6: Eleven. 144 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 11: That's an increase of sixteen percent from last year. Both 145 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 11: Ali Baba and JD dot Com will report earnings next week, 146 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 11: offering further clues on consumption in Hong Kong. I'm David 147 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 11: Ingless Bloomberg Radio. 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Late on Friday, the US credit rating outlook was cut 149 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: to negative from stable by Moody's Investors' Service. The firm 150 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: said the downgrade risk essentially are the result of a 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: problem with US physical strength. Here is Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: Moody certainly with a negative outlook could take additional action 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 5: if the US were to have a government shutdown. Maybe 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: this could be Moody's is looking at as a sort 155 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: of a warning shot over the bow of the USS 156 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 5: Congress or something like that. 157 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg's Michael McKee. Now Moody's is expecting US 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: fiscal deficits to remain very large, that without effective fiscal 159 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: policy measures to reduce government spending or increase revenues. Moody 160 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: cited polarization within the US Congress as a major risk 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: to paying debt. 162 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Brian Well, on the economic front, investors will be looking 163 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: very closely this week at a report on consumer prices. 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: Bloombridge Denise Pellegreene has the. 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 12: Story economists are expecting the consumer price index to signal 166 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 12: we are stuck with inflation for now because the so 167 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 12: called core CPI excluding food and fuel, well, it's expected 168 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 12: to increase a third of a percent for a third 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 12: straight month, and compared with October of last year, the 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 12: core CPI is projected to rise four point one percent. 171 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 12: That would match the annual advance in September and snap 172 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 12: a six month stretch of slowing price growth. All this 173 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 12: could help explain why the Fed isn't ruling out further 174 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 12: rate hikes in the current cycle. Central bankers slated to 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 12: speak in the coming week include Chicago Fed President Austin 176 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 12: Gilsby and FED Governor Philip Jefferson. Denise Pellegrine, Bloomberg Radio. 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis along with 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: Doug Prisner and Paul Allen. Joined now and our guest. 179 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: We're taking a closer look here at the US China 180 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: meetings this week and the APAX generally with Greg grey Corti, 181 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: who is Bloomberg White House and Politics correspondent. So the 182 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 2: US as the focus will be on military communications, and 183 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: we haven't heard exactly from China what they think the 184 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: focus will be. But I think for US, broadly speaking, 185 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: even more broadly than that, is this intersection between national 186 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: secuity or security issues and commercial interests. This is what 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: really drives US China relations more so than fearing either 188 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: side would go to war with each other. 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 7: Greg Yeah, that's absolutely it. And this is but this 190 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 7: military to military communication issue, which US National Security ad 191 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: by the Jake Sullivan Tees would be possibly one of 192 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 7: the deliverables from the sidelines of this summit in San 193 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 7: Francisco this week. It definitely has some commercial implications given that, 194 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 7: you know, one of the major friction points is freedom 195 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 7: of navigation in the South China Sea, which the United 196 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 7: States is continuing to try to protect with exercises there, 197 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 7: and of course you have the Chinese trying to assert 198 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 7: their territorial dominance in that sphere, and the worry is 199 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 7: certainly on both sides, but it's articulated from the United 200 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 7: States is that, you know, those kinds of things can 201 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 7: go wrong if there's not a hotline that each side 202 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 7: can take up to deconflict, to explain themselves and to 203 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 7: make sure that any there aren't any mistakes or misunderstandings 204 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 7: between the two. That's been on hold for a while. 205 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 7: The Chinese pulled out of that arrangement last year after 206 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 7: Ben House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan so in protest. 207 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 7: China bugged out, And so now the question is whether 208 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: they can come to some kind of an agreement to 209 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 7: restore that hotline. 210 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, and give us a sense of how necessary that is, 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 13: because it was just a couple of weeks ago that 212 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 13: you know, we had a report of a Chinese fighter 213 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 13: jet coming to within three meters of an Air Force 214 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 13: B fifty two bomba flying over the South China Sea. 215 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 13: And that's just one of a number of similar sorts 216 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 13: of incidents. What's the what are the sorts of risks here? 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 13: Because there's one thing to have leadership contact, But these 218 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 13: mistakes happened at a far lower down the chain, don't 219 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 13: they Absolutely. 220 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 7: That's why it's important for that communication channel to be 221 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 7: open all the way up to the highest levels, but 222 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 7: also down to Jake Sullvin said today the tactical operational level, 223 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 7: so that yes, people in the theater are talking to 224 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 7: each other and deconflicting because, yeah, these these somewhat aggressive 225 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 7: maneuvers by China to the buzz Us ships in the 226 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 7: South China Sea can look there. As you point out, 227 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 7: there's if there's only three meters of worth of slack there, 228 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 7: things can go very very quickly. Obviously we're dealing with 229 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 7: well trained pilots on both sides, but there's not a 230 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 7: lot of margin of error. 231 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you say, it's a possible deliverable, which 232 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: would be good. It's always good to get some tangible 233 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: outcomes from these meetings. So what about Iran? Is Iran 234 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: likely to be on the agenda. 235 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's another thing that Jake Sullivan identified as an issue. 236 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 7: Of course, you know, anytime you're talking about really any 237 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 7: part in the world that China's influence is working in 238 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 7: the background is an issue for the US, but especially 239 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 7: right now with the Middle East and the Israel Hamas 240 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: war being the hotspot. Obviously, the US is trying to 241 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 7: curtail Iran's influence in the region and its ability to 242 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 7: finance Hamas and other terrorist groups in the Middle East, 243 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 7: and one of the ways it's able to do that 244 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 7: is to sell cheap, high quality oil to the Chinese 245 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: who have found themselves willing buyers. The US is going 246 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 7: to try to find some way to curtail that demand, 247 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 7: but it's kind of hard to see how China can 248 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 7: resist the cheap oil that they can get from her 249 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: in because there aren't many other buyers, and so the 250 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: issue becomes sort of a cat and mouse game of 251 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 7: sanctions as the US tries to identify the ships that 252 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 7: are transporting this and the port and the companies, but 253 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 7: they would rather see if there's a deal that they 254 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: can be made to cut it off from the source. 255 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 13: We've also heard from Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, who has 256 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 13: been saying that the US doesn't seek the coupling from 257 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 13: China in terms of getting the economic relationship a little closer. 258 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 13: What's a good starting point, what does a win look 259 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 13: like at the end of this. 260 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and she also said that she's planning to visit 261 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 7: China next year. And so you kind of have to 262 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 7: feel that in this freeze faw cycle of US China relationships, 263 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 7: maybe we're getting just a little bit of a thaw. 264 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 7: Of course, as you pointed out earlier, the military and 265 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: the geopolitical and the commercial interests are all intertwined here, 266 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 7: and certainly the geopolitical issues sometimes are a prerequisite to 267 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 7: making progress on the commercial side. But certainly, yeah, that's 268 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 7: one of the issues that Janet Yellen has been working on. 269 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 7: And we'll see how much time Joe Biden has to 270 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 7: devote those issues when he meets with President g Of course, 271 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 7: anytime the US and China meets, there's a whole hour. 272 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 7: The first hour is to vote to just sort of 273 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 7: reiterating the policy towards Taiwan and the China policy, so 274 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 7: there's often not a whole lot of time to get 275 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 7: done into liberty details. 276 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: But The People's Daily summed it up pretty well in 277 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: their editorial, basically of China's use saying that China won't 278 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: become another US, and by that I mean a hedgehm 279 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: on the paper says the US should give up its 280 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: aggressive mindset and increased strategic mutual trust, knowing that two 281 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like under this president and that General 282 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Secretary that it's likely to get too much better anytime soon. 283 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 7: Well, and of course President Biden has some domestic political 284 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 7: constraints here. The US train of relationship is one of 285 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 7: the top issues in the Republican presidential primary, with each 286 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 7: Republican candidate seemly trying to out hawk the next in 287 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 7: terms of their position on China. 288 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on this 289 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: story's making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 290 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, 291 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 292 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 293 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: three to zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to 294 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: one in Washington, Bloomberg one six one in Boston, and 295 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 296 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 297 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. Just say Alexa play Bloomberg eleven thirty plus. 298 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: Listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app, SiriusXM, 299 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, and on Bloomberg dot Com. 300 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Prisoner. Join us again 301 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: tomorrow for all the news you need to start your day, 302 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: right here on Bloomberg day Break Asia.