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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ets Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: Dan Orlofsky for the Mothership will stop by. A lot

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Speaker 2: of coaching vacancies. We'll try to fill those vacancies. John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh what's next for him? He'll have his pick and

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Speaker 2: maybe have his pick of a team where your head

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Speaker 2: Good morning. If you're watching us on Peacock and NBC

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Speaker 2: Sports Network, Tony Dungee will stop by as well. Zero

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Speaker 2: talk about the playoff games coming up this weekend. And

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Speaker 2: that's okay. The NFL is fine with this. You had

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Speaker 2: black Monday coaches getting fired. Then on Tuesday the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: fire their defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, and then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, the bomb dropped that the Ravens were parting

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Speaker 2: ways with John Harbaugh. I don't know what happens the

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Speaker 2: rest of the week, but we might get to Thursday

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Speaker 2: and start talking about the games that come up this

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Speaker 2: weekend and great games coming up this weekend. Now, you

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Speaker 2: do have the one potential blowout with the Rams against

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Speaker 2: the Panthers, but everything else is kind of in that

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Speaker 2: three points, two points, one and a half points spreads there. Yes, Ton,

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Speaker 2: and I know.

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Speaker 3: The Redial season is different than the playoffs, but the

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Speaker 3: Rams already lost to the Panthers before we put the

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Speaker 3: Rams into the next round.

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Speaker 4: So fast, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Ton, welcome. That's Todd Selliman and they lost at Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, and the Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula

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Speaker 2: is the odds on favorite right now according to bet online,

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Speaker 2: to be the next head coach of the Ravens. Who

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Speaker 2: would have thought Chris Shula he went to college with

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay. Oh, the Sean McVay trees go. Do you

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Speaker 2: know somebody who baby sits for Sean McVay may end

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Speaker 2: up being a head coach one day. Now, the pizza

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Speaker 2: guy who's delivering to Shawn's house, now he knows Sean McVay.

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Speaker 2: How does he know him? He delivered pizza? There's male man.

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Speaker 2: But Chris Shulett. I think he's been with the Rams

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Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Paul, Yes, he started as outside linebackers coach in seventeen.

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Speaker 5: But your last name is Shula. You went to college

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Speaker 5: of Sean McVay. You're destined to be a coach. It's

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Speaker 5: like a the skids are.

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Speaker 2: Greased and you're the grandson of the former Baltimore Colts

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Speaker 2: head coach Don Shula. It's all falling right into place here,

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Speaker 2: right into place. And we talked to a Raven's reporter

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Speaker 2: who said that ownership is not afraid to go and

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Speaker 2: hire somebody with a thin resume. Keep in mind John

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Speaker 2: Harball was his special teams coach and not necessarily going

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Speaker 2: after the big name. Here's a name that hasn't come up.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any odds on this guy getting a

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Speaker 2: head coaching job at Mike McCarthy. It feels like Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: It didn't help going to Dallas, but what he did

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay, I mean he was every bit Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: And Sean Payton is recognized as one of the best

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Speaker 2: coaches in football. But Mike McCarthy, he had a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: eight Division titles, six with Green Bay two with Dallas,

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Speaker 2: he wins sixty percent of his games. Harball wins sixty

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Speaker 2: one percent of his games. Mike tomins sixty two percent

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Speaker 2: of his games. They all have one Super Bowl title.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy's lack of personality,

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Speaker 2: personality I think hurts him, like he's just not good

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Speaker 2: in front of people. I think we like that guy

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Speaker 2: who is got to quip, he's got a comment. He

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Speaker 2: can be snarky, sarcastic, like something there. Mike McCarthy was

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Speaker 2: just like you could be his neighbor and not know

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Speaker 2: what he did for a living and be like, he's

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Speaker 2: out there probably with you a Hawaiian shirt, shorts on

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Speaker 2: water in the lawn. Ike, what do you do? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I coach the Packers, get out of here. We kind

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Speaker 2: of want that coach who man, he looks dashing, he's young.

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Speaker 2: Look at these guys like Stefanski, Cliff Kingsbury, Matt lafleur Man,

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Speaker 2: they look great, they got nice haircuts. Sean McVay, Oh great, McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: He's like old school. But I wonder if he gets

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Speaker 2: an opportunity with these coaching vacancies yes, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy in five years in Dallas had twelve won

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Speaker 5: twelve games three different times. I have a theory that

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Speaker 5: guys like Sean McCarthy and the other coach of the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys should get more credit than they did because they

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Speaker 5: had to coach under that regime where you don't have

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Speaker 5: a traditional GM and traditional system in place, so you

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Speaker 5: go in underwater. I know they spend, but I think

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Speaker 5: they should get more credit.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're going there to get credit, then you're

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Speaker 2: going to the wrong place. You can't go in there

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Speaker 2: going Wait a minute, nobody's noticing me, Like if you do,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't go there, or you shouldn't be asking for attention.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting it. You're going to get blamed. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to get credit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it seems like they're the only team in

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Speaker 5: the league that doesn't have an objective general manager running

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Speaker 5: the show for personnel. And now you have to go

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Speaker 5: to your owner when you want something done, and that

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Speaker 5: the whole reason the general manner is there to prevent

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Speaker 5: an owner who doesn't know football as well to make decisions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this isn't changing.

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Speaker 5: I guess what I'm saying is that the coach of

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Speaker 5: Dallas is going in underwater when he starts that job,

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Speaker 5: going in with a head start everyone else's head start.

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Speaker 2: Well, nobody's turning the job down, So you know that's

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Speaker 2: buyer beware if you're taking that job. Seaton Poll question

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Speaker 2: for hour two is going to be what, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: got up there right now?

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Speaker 6: Who is in a better position, John Harbaugh or the

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Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens right now? John Harbaughs still with a pretty

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Speaker 6: good lead on that. Okay, I don't know if people

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Speaker 6: I'm reading through some of the comments, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of question marks about Lamar's ability to win a big game.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess absolutely, But how much is that on the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff? It always feels like they become one dimensional

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Speaker 2: in the in the playoffs for some reason. And is

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Speaker 2: that on Harball? Is that on the offensive coordinator? How

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Speaker 2: much is this is on Lamar? You can change coaches,

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Speaker 2: you still don't change your opinion of what you need

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Speaker 2: to see from Lamar Jackson. I mean, he's going to

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Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer, but you know you're going

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Speaker 2: to have a career where you go. You know, you've

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Speaker 2: won three of your eight playoff games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it always seems like in big games, the ravens

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Speaker 6: at someone somewhere really important, something very important, goes away

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Speaker 6: from their He's like, why aren't they running the ball anymore?

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Speaker 6: Where's Derek Henry? Why did they just throw the ball

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Speaker 6: eight street times? Why did they just do what was that?

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Speaker 6: It's like, Oh, you think we're going to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: No we're not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like they're out smarting themselves or something.

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Speaker 2: David in Ohio, Hi.

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Speaker 7: David, Hey Dan, speaking of your new sponsored dude wipes.

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Speaker 7: I think Darry Jones is going to need some dude

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Speaker 7: wipes after he eber flushed his defensive coordinator down the toilet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, David. The Weekly Cowboy Roast With

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Speaker 2: our Daily Cowboy Roast with David, we'll talk to Dan

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Speaker 2: Orlovsky about this coming up. Also, as a former quarterback,

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Speaker 2: we look at quarterbacks the previous year and we go man,

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Speaker 2: that guy next year in the draft, and then we

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Speaker 2: get to that next year in the draft, and now

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Speaker 2: there's only two quarterbacks that are going to be taken

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Speaker 2: in the first round. You can go back to last

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Speaker 2: year and they probably was five or six first round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Caid Klubnik, nuss Meyer, Lenor Sellers, you know,

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Speaker 2: even Ty Simpson in Alabama, you know you it was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, next year's class is always better than

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Speaker 2: the current class. And then here we are with Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza and Dante Moore. I don't know how good they are,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to be elevated because they're the best

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Speaker 2: of this year's quarterbacks. And I watched Mendoza like full games,

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Speaker 2: and I told you what a scout told me. Now,

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Speaker 2: the scout did preface this by saying, I haven't met

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Speaker 2: with him. I haven't. You know, I'll get to see

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Speaker 2: him at the Combine, but I'm gonna need to see

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Speaker 2: a little bit more because his numbers weren't great this year.

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Speaker 2: The story was great, and he was the quarterback for

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Speaker 2: one of the great stories that we've had. But if

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Speaker 2: you're looking at Heisman Trophy winner stats at that position,

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Speaker 2: his are just Okay, how much of this is the

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Speaker 2: story and how much is Fernando Mendoza? And look, you

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Speaker 2: got to ask these hard questions. Same with Dante More.

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Speaker 2: He played it for bad UCLA team. Now you go

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Speaker 2: to Oregon, Oregon can make you look a lot better.

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Speaker 2: You got to ask these questions and not fall in

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Speaker 2: love with somebody. I got to know when you know,

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Speaker 2: can you process that this is what guys are going

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, man, look at him, roll left and

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Speaker 2: throw back fifty yards. I couldn't care less because last

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Speaker 2: I look, when they do that at your pro date,

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Speaker 2: nobody is rushing you, nobody is covering the wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any impact on me. So I want

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Speaker 2: to what is it about Mendoza that stands out? Is

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Speaker 2: he another Joe Flacco and that's a compliment, Like I

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Speaker 2: have you said he's Joe Flacco his career, Let's take

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Speaker 2: out the super Bowl, just regular season and you have

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Speaker 2: that kind of career, Or he's Kirk Cousins like we

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Speaker 2: always look and he go, Man, he could be just

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Speaker 2: like John Elway or Tom No. No, let's don't put

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Speaker 2: that label on him. But he feels like a safe pick.

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Speaker 2: And in today's NFL, we've seen Trey Lance or Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: or you know, you're Mitch Trubisky and you think you've

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Speaker 2: out smartered everybody and you have it getting a for

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Speaker 2: that franchise in Vegas and you get him. He says

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Speaker 2: all the right things. But I want to know what

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Speaker 2: to expect from him because we like to do comps

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Speaker 2: like Dante Moore. What if Oregon wins the national title?

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Speaker 2: Do we look at Dante more differently than we do

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, different skill set. So people who give you

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Speaker 2: these mock drafts, they're not you know, with these players,

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Speaker 2: you know the personality. You got to talk to their teammates,

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Speaker 2: You talk to defensive coordinators who I mean, there's so

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Speaker 2: much that goes into this and I've seen this happen,

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Speaker 2: you know, for a long long time. Every year we

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Speaker 2: do this with quarterbacks, be like, man, did you see

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Speaker 2: that game? Man? Did you see that throw? The scouts

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Speaker 2: they take away the clutter. They want to know exactly

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Speaker 2: what's the meat of this? How good are you? What

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Speaker 2: if I give you two plays? Go up on the

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Speaker 2: chalkboard there, diagram it. Now, I'm going to have you

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Speaker 2: change the play right now, Hey, explain to me what

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Speaker 2: happened on this play when you threw this interception. That's

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Speaker 2: and then you want to know. You want to know

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Speaker 2: their medicals, and you're going to want to know your

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Speaker 2: personality that you have. And then you do your background

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Speaker 2: check on them, so before we go, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: these guys can't miss. They can all miss, depending on

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Speaker 2: where you go. If the Raiders don't have an offensive line,

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good Fernando Mendoza is. He can't

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Speaker 2: run away from all the pressure he's going to face.

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Speaker 2: If Dante Moore goes to the Jets, say a couple

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Speaker 2: of hail Mary's, because you don't know. That's why when

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Speaker 2: guys fall in the first round, I always feel like

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Speaker 2: they have a better chance of succeeding because they're going

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Speaker 2: with Us. Good to see you, buddy. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 2: you pick. You're gonna be the offensive coordinator with these openings.

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Speaker 2: The best opening as an offensive coordinator is where Atlanta.

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Speaker 9: So much talent, so many weapons, a very good offensive line.

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Speaker 9: The offensive line was very bad. I think they'll end

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Speaker 9: good offensive football. I'm with you on the Giants. That

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Speaker 9: to me. Neighbors' health, huge skataboo. I'm a huge Jackson

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Speaker 10: You have a quarterback, but you still need other pieces.

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Speaker 10: And so I do think it presents a challenging situation. Kyle.

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Speaker 10: It's as big a deal as we make it out

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Speaker 9: I don't find it overly attractive. I think Andrew Berry

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Speaker 9: I got to be at my best when it's needed

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Speaker 9: the most. It's a long season. That one game that's

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Speaker 9: been added. People probably think it's only a small thing.

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Speaker 9: It's a huge deal for these organizations and these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: They expect to be playing nineteen twenty games, maybe twenty one,

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Speaker 9: and so it's it's I do think it's a self

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Speaker 9: preservation reac And Lamar was banged up this year to

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Speaker 9: begin with. We were talking about it consistently on NFL

439
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Speaker 9: Live that he was getting tackled in one on one

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Speaker 9: situations more than I had ever seen.

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Speaker 10: And so yeah, it was one of the storylines for

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Speaker 10: the Ravens this year.

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Speaker 2: Can Josh Allen limit his I mean he seems consistent.

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Speaker 2: He's running seven times a game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just think it's situational when Josh has done it.

446
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Speaker 9: You know, it's Josh used to run seven times a game,

447
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Speaker 9: and five of them were just to go do it

448
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Speaker 9: and try to run through the whole defense. It seems

449
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Speaker 9: a little bit more strategic nowadays for Josh, where you know,

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Speaker 9: I'll do it on a third down, I'll do it

451
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Speaker 9: in the red zone. I got the conversion, I'll go

452
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Speaker 9: out of bounce, or I'll side and not necessarily try

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Speaker 9: to prove how tough I am. And so it seems

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Speaker 9: to be a little bit more of a concerted effort

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Speaker 9: to be situational and strategic.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Dan Orlovsky of The Mothership, Adam Schefter reporting

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Speaker 2: that the Giants will interview Mike McCarthy. I was just

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Speaker 2: mentioning his name, you know, ten minutes ago that he's

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Speaker 2: kind off the radar. But I'm wondering why he's off

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Speaker 2: the radar. His resume is similar to Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: and Harball.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a good coach.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, Mike McCarthy's had a lot of success. I think

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Speaker 9: that there's there's places that make sense. You know, last

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Speaker 9: year I was like, man, I would entertain him in

466
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Speaker 9: Chicago to get Caleb to play a little bit more

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Speaker 9: on structure. There's a part of me that feels that

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Speaker 9: way with Jackson Dart, But I also think Jackson Dart

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Speaker 9: probably has to live and should live in a little

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Speaker 9: bit more of a of a Josh Allen, Patrick, mahomes

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Speaker 9: lamar Jackson a create a creative world where that's emphasized.

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Speaker 10: I would also say this, it has.

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Speaker 9: To make the Giants take a little bit of a

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Speaker 9: step back and go, wait, why did our offense in

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Speaker 9: Dallas look the way it did or stretches in twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty three and twenty four, and I know there was

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Speaker 9: no George Pickens obviously, and then it looked like the

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Speaker 9: way it did under Brian Schottenheimer in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 9: where it was one of the best offenses in football.

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Speaker 9: That has to be at the forefront of the Giants.

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Speaker 9: And if this conversation is a real thing between them

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Speaker 9: and Mike McCarthy, give me the.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback under the most pressure in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: I'm not giving you Josh because Josh is the clear

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Speaker 9: runaway obviously. Answer Okay, I'm gonna say it's Trevor Dan

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Speaker 9: I called Monday Night Football in twenty twenty four, let's

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Speaker 9: call it fourteen months ago on the road. He was

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Speaker 9: playing up in Buffalo. They got destroyed and he was awful.

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Speaker 9: And I remember being on the call, not even on

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Speaker 9: the call in the meetings before him, being like, something

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Speaker 9: just seems off with him. He just doesn't have the

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Speaker 9: confidence right now. And then you watched it play out

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Speaker 9: in the game and in the booth, I'm like, oh

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Speaker 9: my gosh, is this the beginning of Trevor Lawrence being

495
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Speaker 9: an afterthought in the NFL? And it was just you

496
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Speaker 9: could tell he did not have any belief and himself.

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Speaker 9: And then they hire Liam and there's a little bit

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Speaker 9: of friction, maybe early on in the season, and there's

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Speaker 9: the moment against the Bengals pinning on his chest and

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Speaker 9: everyone's making a big deal out of it and whatnot.

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Speaker 9: And then right now he's the hottest quarterback in the

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Speaker 9: NFL going into the playoffs. It's the hottest pass game

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Speaker 9: in the NFL going into the playoffs. They've got him

504
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Speaker 9: thinking less, they've got him reacting more. He thinks he's

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Speaker 9: the best player in the field every time he steps

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Speaker 9: on the field, and so it's.

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Speaker 10: You're watching your play out in real time of like,

508
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Speaker 10: this is the guy, this is the guy.

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Speaker 9: You were at Clemson, this is the guy you were drafted,

510
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Speaker 9: be the number on overall pick. You're playing this weekend.

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Speaker 9: It gets the guy that people thought you could be like.

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Speaker 9: And so I would say, just the way he's played

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Speaker 9: this year. You know, guys going to different groupings and

514
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Speaker 9: different areas when they go do what they've done in

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Speaker 9: the regular season in the postseason, I say, Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence, the coach under the most pressure Sean McDermott. Is

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Speaker 2: he coaching for his job?

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Speaker 9: I hate answering this question. Yes, but my job is

519
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Speaker 9: to be honest. Yes, And I think the world of

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Speaker 9: coach McDermott. I think he's a great football coach. But

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Speaker 9: what we're watching in the NFL right now is these

522
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Speaker 9: organizations that have high expectations. If those expectations are not met,

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Speaker 9: these people move off from Renty and I just watched

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Speaker 9: the Ravens move off from one of the great coaches

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Speaker 9: in the last two decades.

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Speaker 10: And if Buffalo falls.

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Speaker 9: Flat and does not win this weekend, is it outrageous

528
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Speaker 9: to think that they decide to move on from Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 9: maybe they hire John Harbaugh. Maybe that's the coach that

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Speaker 9: they choose to go and replace that move, But yeah,

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Speaker 9: I think so because just the expectations are high.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this at the top of the hour, that

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Speaker 2: Indiana's a great story. Fernando Mendoza is a great story.

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Speaker 2: But I got to separate great story from are you

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Speaker 2: a great player? And it feels like Fernando, who his

536
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Speaker 2: Heisman numbers were probably middle of the pack, if you know,

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Speaker 2: if he didn't throw interceptions, But how do you how

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Speaker 2: should we evaluate him and Dante more since they're the

539
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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks who are above everybody else, but that I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they're just the best quarterbacks this year.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how good they are.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I would say with Fernando, I think the

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Speaker 9: starting point is can you see it and can you

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Speaker 9: throw it? And those boxes are checked. Yes, that's a

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Speaker 9: clear declaration that he can see it and he can

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Speaker 9: throw it. Tho, those have to be foundational traits for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Explain that though see it, throw it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So a lot of times with quarterbacks it's can

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Speaker 9: you see what the defense is presenting you. He was

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Speaker 9: on with Pat the other day and he uses the

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Speaker 9: phrase every play is a puzzle, and I have to

552
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Speaker 9: figure out what that puzzle is. I often say every play,

553
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Speaker 9: the defense presents to you a question, and you have

554
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Speaker 9: to know what that answer is.

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Speaker 10: And the question is often do you have a problem,

556
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Speaker 10: what's the front, what's the coverage, where's the blitz, what's

557
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Speaker 10: the weakness of the cover. So you have to see

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Speaker 10: kind of all of that moving in a very short

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Speaker 10: period of time. Can you see that or are you

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Speaker 10: a guy that can't because some guys can and some

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Speaker 10: guys can't. And then Dan, there's levels to it.

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Speaker 9: What happens if you can see it, but it takes

563
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Speaker 9: you two tenths of a second too long.

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Speaker 10: That's an eternity in the NFL. Rock Perty's one of

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Speaker 10: the greats to do it.

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Speaker 9: I can see exactly what you're doing. Brady was talking

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Speaker 9: about it years ago when he was going into the

568
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Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I think into the Chiefs. He was like,

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Speaker 9: I knew exactly what they were doing before they knew

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Speaker 9: what they were doing, you know. And so Fernando can

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Speaker 9: see it, and I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 9: that's become clear.

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Speaker 10: The more that people have watched him is like, if

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Speaker 10: you allow him.

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Speaker 9: To know what you're in, you're dead. He's gonna carve

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Speaker 9: you up. So can you see it and then can

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Speaker 9: you throw it? I hate the phrase this guy can

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Speaker 9: make all the throws. I don't care. There's thousands of

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Speaker 9: people on planet Earth that can make.

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Speaker 10: All the throws. You have to make the right throw

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Speaker 10: at the right time. So that's what I mean by that.

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Speaker 9: This eighteen yard en route versus Cover three is a

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Speaker 9: different throw. Versus Cover two is a different throw. Versus

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Speaker 9: Cover one is a different throw. When I have to

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Speaker 9: move in the pocket, is a different throw in the

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Speaker 9: backside linebackers two yards more into the middle field than

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Speaker 9: he is. And so that's deep, deep football talk. So

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Speaker 9: I think he can do that. You know, how great

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Speaker 9: is he when it comes to the plus plays? How

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Speaker 9: great is he when to come He hasn't necessarily dealt

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Speaker 9: with a ton of adversity at Indiana this year. And

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Speaker 9: then with Dante Moore. You know what Dante Moore, Dan,

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Speaker 9: he reminds me of Matt Ryan a little bit. If

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Speaker 9: it's in rhythm, it's lovely, it's lovely, it's pure, it's rhythmic.

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Speaker 10: It's like the consistency of that. It's very smooth.

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Speaker 9: When he has to move, when he has to be

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Speaker 9: off time just a second, I think that person becomes

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Speaker 9: a little bit more realistic and average. Had this really

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Speaker 9: sudden athleticism in the pocket that allowed him to play

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Speaker 9: at a consistent level. Dante's got to develop that, but

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Speaker 9: he's very pure.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this pre show. If arch Manning

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Speaker 2: was in this year's draft number one overall, not.

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Speaker 9: Even close, not even close, not even close, you'd be

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Speaker 9: the runaway number one pick. Arch Manning is kind of

606
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Speaker 9: like the throwback nineteen seventy quarterback with modern day training

607
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Speaker 9: and nutrition. I'm a huge fan of this guy. He's

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Speaker 9: physically remarkably gifted. He's intelligent when it comes to the football,

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Speaker 9: understanding of speed and space, all that. I think he's

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Speaker 9: wired the right way. He's when you watch him on

611
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Speaker 9: a sideline, he's ultra competitive. I think he's weathered a lot.

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Speaker 9: He's going into the NFL, or when he does, he's

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Speaker 9: gonna have weathered so many different storms, and we know that's.

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Speaker 10: A huge deal.

615
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Speaker 9: So many different finger pointings and adversity and hype and

616
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Speaker 9: falling short and getting punched and getting back up. You

617
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 9: got to have that skill. You have to have that

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Speaker 9: trait to be elite outside of the physical things.

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Speaker 10: And so yeah, he would be number one.

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Speaker 2: Runaway, Well, run away, Okay, I thought he would be

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Speaker 2: a top ten pick. But I you know, when we

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Speaker 2: had this conversation before I was told that, you know,

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Speaker 2: NFL scouts said no, he would be the number one.

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Speaker 2: He would be the number one pick.

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Speaker 10: Runaway, Dan, Runaway. He didn't sell that.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't that company. You just said he'd be the

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Speaker 2: number one pick.

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Speaker 9: And add in the context of this, the one to

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Speaker 9: two pick are Las Vegas and New York. I mean

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Speaker 9: these are huge markets, you know, obviously massive organizations when

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Speaker 9: it comes to like at least visibility.

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Speaker 10: And so yeah, number one Runaway.

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Speaker 2: And then he'd have Brady is the owner in Vegas.

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Speaker 10: And it with the pit would already be made.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, Thank you, Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 2: I don't like breakfast really, no, you mean the time

649
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Speaker 2: of day or the food types. I rarely eat breakfast.

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Speaker 5: What about on a day off, like a Saturday Sunday.

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Speaker 2: No, it's really really rare. Guest hut, you're.

652
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Speaker 3: On vacation at a hotel and you don't It's not

653
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Speaker 3: like you go to a cafe. They have a nice

654
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Speaker 3: buffet breakfast in the lobby and nothing on.

655
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Speaker 2: That's no, really, no, not at all. I could go

656
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Speaker 2: down there and you can stay in a hotel and

657
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Speaker 2: then you open up those big metal canister you know, containers,

658
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Speaker 2: and they are like those dried eggs in there.

659
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Speaker 4: I pull up a chair to that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you have to bring it to an

661
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Speaker 3: actual table. You can just kind of eat it from there. People,

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Speaker 3: I don't like when you do theyzy, Sorry, you can't

663
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Speaker 3: pull up a chair to the thing.

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Speaker 4: You got to take a plate and bring it through it.

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Speaker 5: But do you think it's healthish health time of day

666
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Speaker 5: or breakfast foods or all the above.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not. I was never a breakfast fan growing up.

668
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean I had cereal, I had frosted many weeks.

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Speaker 2: When I was on vacation, I was like, my son

670
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: got him for his daughter. I'm like, uh, these are mine. Yeah. See,

671
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Speaker 2: I've become a big breakfast guy.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think that I realized it until I

673
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 6: went to Italy with my family and breakfast not really

674
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: a big thing there. They really don't do breakfast. That

675
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Speaker 6: I was like, babe, you realized we could be billion

676
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 6: by inventing breakfast in Italy?

677
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Speaker 2: Right?

678
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Speaker 6: Nobody here eats breakfast. They don't have eggs here. I

679
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: found myself after a little while having like breakdowns to me, like.

680
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Speaker 10: They don't need eggs.

681
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: Who doesn't need eggs for breakfast?

682
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they eat dinner at nine o'clock at night,

683
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: and you know they probably start working at you know,

684
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: ten or eleven o'clock in the morning.

685
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Speaker 6: Real culture shock for me. Yeah, your coffee is in

686
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 6: a cup of this big You just shoot it down

687
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 6: and then that's it. You don't sip on it all day,

688
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 6: and then no breakfast, no eggs.

689
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes. Tone.

690
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: He also don't seem to believe in ice or dryers.

691
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Everything seems to be hanging on a line o ice,

692
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: and I think ice is very dangerous and unhealthy to

693
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: have something cold drink.

694
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: By the way, you got the Beatles T shirt on

695
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: go Beetles. Nobody loves the Beatles like you do.

696
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: It's tall notes, Beetles, Billy Joel, Why are we doing

697
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: The friend of the show sent this in the other day.

698
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: He didn't leave a note, so I couldn't thank him

699
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 3: either on the air or send him a note back.

700
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: And it was just a box and it wasn't ticking

701
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: or anything, so I felt safe enough to open it up.

702
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: And it was a Beetle shirt. So obviously he gets

703
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: the joke about me ripping.

704
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: On the Beetles, so I thought, as a shot, if

705
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: he's watching or listening, to wear the shirt.

706
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: But why is it you don't like the Beatles. You

707
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: just say they're overrated.

708
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: I like some of the songs. I think they're highly overrated,

709
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: and I think part.

710
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Of it is to psychoanalyze myself for a moment, the

711
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: jealousy of seeing how people have reacted in past years

712
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: looking at old clips of the Beatles or Elvis, or

713
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: they're crying and screaming, throwing things on the stage or

714
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: the boy bands like new Kids in the Block and stuff.

715
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: For people to have such a reaction where they're gonna faint,

716
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: or they're crying, or they just they need medical attention

717
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: because they're near this person or group. I find that

718
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: fascinating and maybe part of me wishes I could have

719
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: that kind of reaction doing stand up comedy or singing

720
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: on stage.

721
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Speaker 2: Wait, so you don't like the Beatles in part because

722
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: girls would cry and faint and scream.

723
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: Because I think nothing they've done or anyone has done

724
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: in the world should have someone move in such a

725
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: way where they can pass out and possibly die from

726
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: being near another human being. And partial could be some

727
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: jealousy that how great would it be to sing or

728
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: tell the kind of jokes that pe But would you

729
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: just all line up in a stadium and I have

730
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: some kind of emotional reaction where they're lapping to the

731
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: point of passing out.

732
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm in the same room as so

733
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: and so.

734
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Speaker 2: But you were making fun of the simplicity of the Beatles' lyrics.

735
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, not all the songs, but they know some

736
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: of it is like he really it feels like something

737
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: like while you're showering, you can come up with some

738
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: of those lines.

739
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: Well, when they started, yes, I want to hold your hand,

740
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: those kind of things. But then as they evolved and

741
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: got more complex, they were doing things that people are

742
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out how they did back then.

743
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: Well, she loves you and that can't be bad, and

744
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: she loves you, so you should be glad. I guess

745
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: I can think about it.

746
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, your kiss is on my list. Your kisses

747
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 5: on my list because your kiss, your kiss is on

748
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 5: my list.

749
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: And again to my point, if anyone fainted or passed

750
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Speaker 3: out or started running on the stage because Hall and

751
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: Oates are playing as a huge Halls band, would find

752
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: that insane.

753
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 6: Nobody is fainting, I think if anyone's likely to run

754
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 6: on stage and face.

755
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: But I went to a few contract I was able

756
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: to control myself to the point where I just sat

757
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: in my sing and enjoyed it.

758
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis what's on your mind.

759
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Speaker 11: More in DP, Well, just about the Kevin Stefanski firing.

760
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 11: I thought it was kind of odd, like it couldn't

761
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 11: have worked out any better for him. But the thing

762
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 11: that I don't understand is as a coach of a

763
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 11: truly horrible organization that just does stupid thing after stupid thaying,

764
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 11: how come you never see an NFL coach position themselves

765
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 11: to ride out their contract and quit a bad organization

766
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 11: to take the next job. It seems like an NFL

767
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 11: you never see that, But in college it happens three

768
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 11: times a year.

769
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's commonplace in college because there's so many

770
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: opportunities for a coach. There's only thirty two jobs, and

771
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: how often are those jobs open? You kind of hold

772
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: on for dear life. But I think the Browns did

773
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski is solid by letting him go because you

774
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: had ownership that was choosing to go with you know,

775
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: maybe Shadoor Sanders, And I don't think Kevin Stefanski wanted

776
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: to attach his name to an offense that was going

777
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: to be led by Shadoor Sanders. He'll get an opportunity.

778
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: He's a very good coach. He's highly regarded. You know,

779
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: same with John Harbaugh. This could be a really good

780
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: thing for John Harball. You know I didn't. I didn't

781
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: leave the ESPN. I was their eighteen years, so I

782
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: was there as long as John Harbaugh was in Baltimore,

783
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: and I realized I needed to leave. But nobody leaves ESPN.

784
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: So John wasn't going to leave the Ravens until he

785
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: had to leave. And then I kind of forced myself

786
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: to have some clarity and say I got to I

787
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: got to get started again, like I'm bored with this,

788
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm not getting any better, and sometimes your last to

789
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: find out about that. Tony Dungee will join us more

790
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: of your phone calls as well. New poll question EH

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Speaker 2: seven seven to three DP show email address, DPA, dan Pad,

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Speaker 2: Trigg dot com, and our Twitter handle at tp show

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