WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Psycho Beach Party

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb and you know, at this very moment Joe is away.

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<v Speaker 2>So I reached out once more to Seth Nicholas Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>of Rusty Needles Record Club to discuss a film here

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<v Speaker 2>on Weird House Cinema. Seth, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me again, Always happy to return.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is an interesting pick. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>film that I was familiar with at all. It is

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you might describe it as an overlooked Jim

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<v Speaker 2>the Year two thousand's Psycho Beach Party, a wonderfully campy

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<v Speaker 2>comedy that takes the nineteen sixties beach Party movie by

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<v Speaker 2>way of a little seventies horror and uses this to

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<v Speaker 2>like a send up of gender norms, pop culture, astro turfing,

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<v Speaker 2>of diverse Russian and more, while also just firmly committing

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<v Speaker 2>to laughs. Seth, I had never even heard of this

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<v Speaker 2>film before you brought it up in email. Could you

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<v Speaker 2>share your history with this film?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? Where did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you learn about this? Because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is one that it doesn't seem like it was

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated as much when it came out, and it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like it was ahead of its time, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem like it has the cult following it deserves.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, Agreed on all counts. I have to give all

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<v Speaker 3>credit to my wife. Back when her and I were

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<v Speaker 3>first dating, we were living down in Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 3>she told me how much she loved this movie. I

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<v Speaker 3>also had never heard of it, and so on a

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<v Speaker 3>date one night, we went on a little DVD hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to scour Los Angeles trying to find a

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<v Speaker 3>copy of this. We eventually found a copy at one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best record stores that ever existed in Meba Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, we watched it, and it immediately became just

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<v Speaker 3>a perennial household favorite of ours, and we just watched

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<v Speaker 3>it whenever we had the chance. And yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to ask her where she first heard of it, too,

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<v Speaker 3>because this does seem like a chain of like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the one person who knew someone who was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a grip on the movie, who told their

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<v Speaker 3>friend and it just kind of continued on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, honestly, there's there's quite a few people of

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<v Speaker 3>note in this film too, So maybe that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>where she first came across it, but I'll ask her later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are a number of folks that

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<v Speaker 2>are very talented folks in here that went on to

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<v Speaker 2>some really great things. And also, I guess depending on

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<v Speaker 2>how connected or into the off Broadway and ultimately Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>a scene of the eighties and nineties you happen to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you also might have a leg up on knowing about

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<v Speaker 2>this movie. I guess the other main thing that might

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<v Speaker 2>draw folks into this particular film is that it is

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<v Speaker 2>a parody of sixties beach movies, and we're gonna have to,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, unpack that for a lot of listeners. So

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<v Speaker 2>we certainly have listeners out there who know the way

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<v Speaker 2>around sixties beach movies. But I think even if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't watched a lot of them, you probably have some

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what we're talking about here. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of common elements. Bikinis, romance, oftentine romance, there's comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>there's surfers, there's rock and roll. Occasional appearances by other

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<v Speaker 2>subsets of youth culture, you know, so pre hippie generally

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<v Speaker 2>with beat nicks and greasers, maybe some bikers and more

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<v Speaker 2>and Seth, I'm delighted that you have done a much

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<v Speaker 2>deeper dive into the world of beach movies. Give us

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<v Speaker 2>a little primary here on the beach movie so we

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<v Speaker 2>can better appreciate what is being lampooned and subverted in

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<v Speaker 2>this picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Not too long ago, I went on quite the beach

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<v Speaker 3>movie binge. I'm not sure kind of what got it

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<v Speaker 3>in my head, but I decided that, like this entire

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<v Speaker 3>genre was unexplored territory for me, and so I decided

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<v Speaker 3>to watch them all. And first of all, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a very specific, i guess, cinematic universe of beach movies

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<v Speaker 3>that are primarily focused on the actors Frankie Avlon and

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<v Speaker 3>an Nett Funicello. And I literally think if you pull

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<v Speaker 3>up the Wikipedia page on this, it's probably something like

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<v Speaker 3>twelve movies. And they just keep going and going and going,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are so much better and so much stranger

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<v Speaker 3>than I thought they would be. So, for example, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the few of my favorites. There was one called Pajama

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<v Speaker 3>Party from nineteen sixty four Tommy Kirk Old Disney actor

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<v Speaker 3>favorite you know from like you know Old Yeller and

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<v Speaker 3>many other hits. He plays a martian named Go Go

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<v Speaker 3>who he is in an advanced scout for a Mars invasion,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course he has to kind of disguise himself

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<v Speaker 3>as like a local teenager and he kind of learns,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the fun of like being an earth teenager

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<v Speaker 3>at the beach, and that ultimately, you know, dissuades him

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<v Speaker 3>from destroying the Earth. Another one which I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people have heard of. It's such a ridiculous title.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Doctor Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine. This is

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen sixty five, still the same film series. It

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<v Speaker 3>stars Vincent Price as a mad scientist and he builds

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<v Speaker 3>an army of female robots to rob rich, gullible men,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course that ties into Frankie and Annette having

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<v Speaker 3>their own melodrama as well. And well, one more I'll mention,

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<v Speaker 3>let's see one more year later The Ghost in the

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<v Speaker 3>Invisible Bikini from nineteen sixty six, again same film series.

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<v Speaker 3>In this one, Boris Karloff is a ghost that needs

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<v Speaker 3>to perform one good deed before he can finally get

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<v Speaker 3>into heaven. These just they're the strangest franchise of films.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think Buster Keaton appears in nearly every

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<v Speaker 3>single one of them for one reason or another. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's also this reoccurring character I love he is. His

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<v Speaker 3>name is Eric von Zipper, and he's the dim witted

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<v Speaker 3>leader of a biker gang, and he is often referred

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<v Speaker 3>to both outside and inside the movies as a middle

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<v Speaker 3>aged teenage delinquent. And I think what what they were

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<v Speaker 3>doing is in the sixties, the idea of the rebel

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<v Speaker 3>without a cause, greaser motorcycle gang was now long in

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<v Speaker 3>the tooth. So the concept was that, hey, what happens

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<v Speaker 3>to all these what happens to the previous generations youth?

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<v Speaker 3>Where does it go? Do they just stay? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>these leather clad biker gangs that are gonna be middle

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<v Speaker 3>aged teenage delinquents. And it's just I suppose, perhaps a

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<v Speaker 3>subtle dig at their parents, perhaps, But it's a far

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<v Speaker 3>better film series than I ever would have realized. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll throw in one more because I think it ties

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<v Speaker 3>in directly to what we're talking about today. There's also

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<v Speaker 3>a series all about Gidget. The first film was called

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<v Speaker 3>Just Gidget, and then there were many many others which

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<v Speaker 3>you can go into if you like. And this film

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<v Speaker 3>is almost a direct Gidget parody, like all of the

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<v Speaker 3>setup of her like befriending a gang of surfers who

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<v Speaker 3>then give her like a cute scene nickname, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>falling in love with one of them, all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all pure the first Gidget film. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say in many ways, I when I first saw

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, I had not seen Gidget. I had not

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<v Speaker 3>seen any of the beach Party Frankie in Anette films,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I just took this almost like as its

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<v Speaker 3>own creation. I knew obviously the beach parties had existed,

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<v Speaker 3>but after seeing those, I'm like, oh, this is nearly

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<v Speaker 3>direct parody. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the original sort of brainstorm title for this

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<v Speaker 2>of what would become Psycho Beach Party was Gidget Ghost Psychotic.

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<v Speaker 3>And are you talking about I hope not getting too

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<v Speaker 3>far ahead of us here, but talking about the original play,

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<v Speaker 3>Is that correct? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from what I read before it even really solidified

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<v Speaker 2>as a play. Apparently Charles Bush, who will get into

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these shows they would do, they would

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<v Speaker 2>put it on like a different show with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like diverse like drag elements, and other

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<v Speaker 2>like comedic elements, and then they would sort of tease

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<v Speaker 2>what the next one might be, but in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like almost kind of an arrested development, you know, closing

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<v Speaker 2>credit style. It's not necessarily something they planned to produce.

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<v Speaker 2>They would just be like, next next week's show is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a gidget goho psychotic And apparently they

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<v Speaker 2>just once the idea was unleashed, they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what if we did it, what would it consist of?

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<v Speaker 2>And it grew from there.

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<v Speaker 3>The only reason I knew this was a play originally

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<v Speaker 3>was that at some point when I was looking it

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<v Speaker 3>up online, I saw a poster for it that was

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<v Speaker 3>not the film poster, but we had the same title

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<v Speaker 3>Psycho Beach Party, but I believe the date said nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty seven, and I was so confused. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>was this based on something else? Did they perhaps originally

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<v Speaker 3>make it in eighty seven, et cetera. And then as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as I do a little bit of research and like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all the same. It just at least this poster

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<v Speaker 3>is from eighty seven because they were doing it that

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<v Speaker 3>long ago. That's how long this play took to become

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<v Speaker 3>a film. I'm sure you'll talk about that soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think that would have been the original run,

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<v Speaker 2>the original off Broadway run, And if memory serves when

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking around, I believe there have been more

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<v Speaker 2>recent productions of it. I think one was either done

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<v Speaker 2>in or came through Atlanta at some point, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>it was totally off my radar at the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be very curious to see a stage version of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't really know how they would do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the great things to keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind about this movie's humor and perhaps sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>origins of the play. I think it summed up well

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<v Speaker 2>in actually a letterbox review that I ran across by

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<v Speaker 2>the late Eli Hayes, who was a real prolific letterbox reviewer,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you spend any amount of time on that website,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll probably run across reviews that he did. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a very brief write up, but he summarizes this

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<v Speaker 2>film as being quote a relatively neglected, should be contemporary

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<v Speaker 2>cult classic of burlesque, lampoonery and maximal camp. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously it's a very campy film. It gets

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<v Speaker 2>into some subversive elements and some social commentary, but the

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<v Speaker 2>laughs always come first, and I think the burlesque observation

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<v Speaker 2>is key here as well. It's that kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>at times body humor, but the pasties are on too,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not going too far, and it's again laughs first.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very true. Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, coming back just real quick to Gidget.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of experience with the beach

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<v Speaker 2>movie a beach party movie genre myself, but when you

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<v Speaker 2>start reading about it, everyone points to the gidget movies.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of point to nineteen fifty nine's Gidget starring

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<v Speaker 2>Sandra d who would go on to be in The

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<v Speaker 2>Dunwich Horror, among other things. This was general This is

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<v Speaker 2>generally regarded as the beginning of the beach movie crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it spawned the sequels Gidget goes Hawaiian, Gidget goes

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<v Speaker 2>to Rome, so that's where we get the natural continuation

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<v Speaker 2>of that Gidget go Psychotic. There are also a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of TV movies, but it goes on from there, like

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<v Speaker 2>there are Elvis movies that are clearly beach party movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are a There are also some other genre examples,

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<v Speaker 2>two that come to mind for me, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>the two that I had really seen before because they

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<v Speaker 2>were on Mystery Science Theater. Three thousand would be nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four as the Horror at Party Beach, which is

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<v Speaker 2>both a beach party movie and a monster movie with

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous monster and a musical performance by the dell Airs.

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<v Speaker 2>Another example that I really like is the nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven film Catalina Kaper, also featured on Mystery Science Theater.

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<v Speaker 2>That one had Tommy Kirk in it and a musical

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<v Speaker 2>number on the Beach by Little Richard. Pretty amazing, so

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<v Speaker 2>that one's worth checking out, if for nothing else, for

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Kirk, for Little Richard, and I believe there's a

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<v Speaker 2>scene where like surf dudes battle beat Nick, not beat Nicks,

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<v Speaker 2>they battle greasers on the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>So again that must have been a reoccurring theme of Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>that that's your generation, mom and dad, we're on the

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<v Speaker 3>beach now.

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<v Speaker 2>And it does seem to I wonder if the subtext

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<v Speaker 2>too there is kind of like, oh, the previous generations

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<v Speaker 2>counterculture group, they never integrated, They're always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>outsiders and maybe they're a little bit losers, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of ties in with kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>straight laced veneer that you get in the mainstream sixties

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of this this era before you know, the more

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<v Speaker 2>counterculture hippie movement really becomes more standard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good observation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, well, let's go ahead and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the audio from the trailer for Psycho Beach Party. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we are the only ones watching the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys have only on their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Want a winner. Check with the splat person.

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<v Speaker 2>He should I unpack my gongles. I intend to unpack my.

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, guys, come on, that's an.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to say this, but I think our little

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<v Speaker 2>chicken maybe the butcher melody.

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<v Speaker 3>Beach hardy till you drop dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you put some baccino that scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>Psycho Beach Party.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the most exciting story idea I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard in years.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I'm not sure if we used all that, we

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<v Speaker 2>might have had to cut a little of that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it might not have worked out of context.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, if you want to go watch Psycho Beach

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<v Speaker 2>already before continuing with this episode. Fortunately, it is widely

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<v Speaker 2>available for digital rental or purchase. It's currently streaming on

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<v Speaker 2>TB I believe. If you don't, I think you have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, deal with some ads. There. Also Strand Home

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<v Speaker 2>Video put out a multi format disc in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course includes the Blu Ray. I know there

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<v Speaker 2>was a DVD director's commentary at some point because I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it reference, so I'm assuming it might be on

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<v Speaker 2>that disc.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm holding it right here in my hand, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it is on this disc, and I've listened to it before,

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<v Speaker 3>and you you got some nice insights on there. Oh cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is it just Charles Bush or is there

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<v Speaker 2>someone else in there as well?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it being just Charles Bush. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>the era of DVD also where they would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're including a fun music video and like original trail,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the classic DVDs of the early early

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<v Speaker 3>two thousands, where they weren't quite sure what to do

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<v Speaker 3>with all that extra space on the disc. They just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of filled it with stuff, you know, whatever was

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<v Speaker 3>sitting around. I kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I bet that's a great commentary track because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get to listen to that, but I did

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<v Speaker 2>check out like an old nineteen ninety three fresh air

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Gross interview with Bush.

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<v Speaker 3>That was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very short, but it was insightful. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a few other things on YouTube where he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about his past and his projects and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>He's definitely had a pretty amazing career, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right, well, let's talk about the people involved here,

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<v Speaker 2>starting at the top with the director. The director is

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Lee King. I don't have a birth date on him,

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<v Speaker 2>American writer and director whose father, Robert L. King, worked

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<v Speaker 2>on the screenplay for the nineteen seventy two Disney film

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<v Speaker 2>Now You See Him, Now You Don't, starring Kurt Russell

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<v Speaker 2>and Caesar Romero. Robert Lee King. However, the sun here

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<v Speaker 2>only has a handful of movie credits. Nineteen ninety one

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<v Speaker 2>short titled The Disco Years, which he also wrote, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and two She Gets What She Wants with Michael McKean,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also co wrote that one. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty Eleven's Bad Actress, which he directed. That one features

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<v Speaker 2>Beth Broderick. More on her in a minute, and Ryan Hanson,

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<v Speaker 2>who a lot of you know is Kyle from Party Down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but then we come to the writing credit

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<v Speaker 2>here for the screenplay, also the original play of which

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<v Speaker 2>he adapted. This is Charles Busch, who've already been talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Born nineteen fifty four, writer, director, actor, and drag performer

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<v Speaker 2>who initially made him a name for himself in off

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<v Speaker 2>Broadway theater, often in drag performances, where he apparently initially

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<v Speaker 2>found his voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to this nineteen ninety three Terry Gross interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Bush, and in that and again, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>way before the movie Psycho Beach Party comes out. But

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<v Speaker 2>Psycho Beach Party does exist at that point. Unfortunately, at

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<v Speaker 2>least in the clip I heard, Terry didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to ask him about that production. But at any rate,

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<v Speaker 2>in that interview he says that, Okay, he's doing like

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<v Speaker 2>various characters on stage, and I think in like a

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<v Speaker 2>one man show he was doing. But most of the

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<v Speaker 2>male characters, he said, felt very locked down, very static,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was in the female characters that he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to really bring everything to life. And so that

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<v Speaker 2>becomes like part of major part of his work moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>His first big off Broadway hit was nineteen eighty four's

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<v Speaker 2>Vampire Lesbians of Sodom, a very provocative title that He

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<v Speaker 2>says that the New York Times in their their advertisements

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<v Speaker 2>for local theater, they were very hesitant or even refused

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<v Speaker 2>to use the full title. He says, you could have

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<v Speaker 2>called it vampires, lesbians or sodom and they would have

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<v Speaker 2>been cool with it. But he put all of them

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<v Speaker 2>together and it's gonna make people want to push the

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<v Speaker 2>elite button.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen this, and it hasn't been adapted, to

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<v Speaker 2>my knowledge, into any kind of like film or TV property,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's apparently a series of comedy skits throughout time

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<v Speaker 2>about a pair of immortal vampires who keep encountering each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, you know, biblical sodom all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up through like mid eighties Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd only heard of this because in an interview that

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<v Speaker 3>I saw with Charles Bush, he was describing that this

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<v Speaker 3>was the play that he was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>actually performing and was already a success and already a hit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then after they would finish their off Broadway performances

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<v Speaker 3>of Vampire Lesbians of Sodom, they would be invited to

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<v Speaker 3>go perform like these little one act plays, like on

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<v Speaker 3>tiny little stages, like just you know, a little hole

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<v Speaker 3>in the wall type places, and because he loved stage

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<v Speaker 3>time and loved to perform, he always said yes, he

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<v Speaker 3>always took them up on it. And those little ideas

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<v Speaker 3>there are eventually what turned into Psycho Beach Party. Nice Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So among the performances to follow coming out of Off

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<v Speaker 2>Broadway Easte Performances and the like was this concept for

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<v Speaker 2>gidget go psychotic. You know, I saw this interview where

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<v Speaker 2>Bush says it, you know, initially wasn't fully developed or

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<v Speaker 2>a full fledged idea, but just kind of a humorous teaser.

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<v Speaker 2>But it then grows into Psycho Beach Party, which initially

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<v Speaker 2>ran eighty seven through eighty nine, with Bush himself playing

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<v Speaker 2>the role of Florence Chicklet Forrest, the gidget character here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a hit with audiences. You know, it's campy,

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<v Speaker 2>over the top, a send up of beach party movies,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has some social commentary in there and more.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Bush also had some early TV and screen credits as

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<v Speaker 2>an actor. Notably there's nineteen ninety three's Adams Family Values,

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<v Speaker 2>in which we see him as in Drag as Countess

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<v Speaker 2>cousin of Phasia DuBarry. I haven't seen this Adams Family

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<v Speaker 2>movie in a long time. But you know, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up some stills and there she is, like standing in

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<v Speaker 2>the background at a funeral perhaps, or it could be

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<v Speaker 2>any other function since it's the Adams Family, right. He

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<v Speaker 2>also was on Let's See nineteen ninety Wars, it Could

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<v Speaker 2>Happen to You, nineteen ninety seven's Trouble on the Corner,

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<v Speaker 2>and eight episodes of HBO's ODZ between nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>and two thousand. During this time, there were efforts to

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<v Speaker 2>bring Psycho Beach Party to the screen, but it apparently

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<v Speaker 2>took a long time, and it wasn't until two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>that it finally comes out. You know, so late nineties

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<v Speaker 2>before this thing finally begins to roll in earnest and

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<v Speaker 2>then they end up shooting it in twenty one days,

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<v Speaker 2>which pretty pretty tight schedule even for a film you

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<v Speaker 2>know like this that you know, it doesn't have space

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<v Speaker 2>stations or anything like that in it. They cranked it

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<v Speaker 2>out in it and it looks good for.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, you know, even like we'll talk about this when

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about the movie, even like little kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just esthetic choices that are made throughout this film. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a high budget affair, but like the visual

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<v Speaker 3>effects that are thrown in there, the sets, everything was

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<v Speaker 3>done with care and with attention, even if it isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a high budget film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's clearly a lot of love for the cinema

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<v Speaker 2>of the time period that they're referencing, and even with

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<v Speaker 2>a limited by you know, it's not one of these

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<v Speaker 2>things where you watch it and you're like, this could

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<v Speaker 2>just be mistaken for a product of the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not, you know, it's not that level of recreation,

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<v Speaker 2>but the homage is still very strong, and you totally

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<v Speaker 2>get it. It's a it's a it's a great callback

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<v Speaker 2>to those films now as we reference already. The film

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<v Speaker 2>was seemingly not a hit. I don't think it made

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<v Speaker 2>its money back. Critical reviews were also kind of mixed.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like and I'm not sure again that it's

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<v Speaker 2>truly established the cult following that it's that it's that

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<v Speaker 2>it deserves at least not to not to the degree

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, it feels like it should have because

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<v Speaker 2>you look at some of the I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like some of the elements here it strongly reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of me of say, John Waters movie or an

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<v Speaker 2>episode of say Strangers with Candy, which is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>solid comparison to be made there, given the time period

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<v Speaker 2>and the sorts of humor you could get away with

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<v Speaker 2>during during this period.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So it really feels like this one should be

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<v Speaker 2>circulating more so to whatever small extent we can help

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<v Speaker 2>raise awareness for Psycho Beach Party. Then, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very much in favor.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's it's easy to watch things on

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<v Speaker 3>too Be. Anyone can just pop open two Beat anytime

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<v Speaker 3>watch something. Not an ad for two B, but I

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<v Speaker 3>if they wanted to, I'd throw an ad for two B.

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<v Speaker 3>Two Be's a great channel. I think I watched them

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<v Speaker 3>more than any other streaming service these days. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's out there, it's available, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to watch it in some sort of degraded format

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. Now, continuing on about Bush just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>since he's, you know, sort of this the central dreamer

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<v Speaker 2>here behind this for this project.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The same year, in two thousand, one of Bush's plays

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<v Speaker 2>made its Broadway to debut with the Tale of the

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<v Speaker 2>Allergist Wife. It was apparently a big hit, even earning

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<v Speaker 2>him a tony nomination, and he won the Outer Critics

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<v Speaker 2>Circle John Gasner Award for Outstanding Play.

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<v Speaker 3>Right on that piece, I'd actually be pretty curious to

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<v Speaker 3>see perhaps some more mainstream work from Bush, because this

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<v Speaker 3>is the only piece of media I've consumed that he

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<v Speaker 3>has written. I wonder if this same campy, off kilter

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<v Speaker 3>take is just kind of prevalent throughout his work. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to see more.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I suspect so I think the basic premise of

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<v Speaker 2>the Tale of the houris Wife is maybe less wacky,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean I assume that that the same sort

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<v Speaker 2>of comedy is still present there right now. Film wise.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and three, Mark Ruckner directed an adaptation

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<v Speaker 2>and Bush adapted it of his play Die, Mommy Die.

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<v Speaker 2>This starred Bush, but it also had Natasha Leone and

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Priestley. He pinned a Very Serious Person in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, and in twenty twenty one he co wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>co directed, and starred in the sixth reel his book

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<v Speaker 2>Leading Lady, a Memoir of the most Unusual boy, release

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<v Speaker 2>just last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So let's see. Let's get into the cast a

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<v Speaker 2>bit here. So again, Bush played the role of Chick

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<v Speaker 2>Lit in the original stage performance. But I've heard him

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging in a couple of different formats that, Okay, by

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<v Speaker 2>the time they were actually able to make the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>he felt like he was too old for the part,

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<v Speaker 2>even though traditionally you have people who are too old

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<v Speaker 2>for the part playing the teenagers and beach movies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if I'm just doing the simple math in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have been thirty or so when he was

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<v Speaker 3>performing Chicklets in the stage play, so he would have

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<v Speaker 3>been over No, No, I guess a little under fifty ish,

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 3>around fifty ish when this movie was in production.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he's said elsewhere that like, okay, you know,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the role of chick Lit doesn't have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>drag performance. It just that's how it worked out, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we end up with the excellent Lauren Ambrose playing

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Florence chick Lit forest Here born nineteen seventy eight. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a delightful and energetic performance, just just absolutely perfect, delivering

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<v Speaker 2>just this you know, get pitch perfect, g golly all

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>American girl. While also, as we'll discuss, you know, she

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>gets we get into these alternate personalities, and she's able

0:24:59.920 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to just really throw herself into those as well, and

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 2>she gets to sing a little opera because Ambrose apparently

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 2>is trained in opera. Now, a lot of you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be familiar with her from her work as

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<v Speaker 2>Claire Fisher on HBO's Six Feet Under. She was great

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 2>on that, and let's see. More recently, she acted in

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>a couple of series that I haven't watched yet. One

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 2>is the Apple series Servant and the highly regarded Yellowjacket series.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Other credits include two thousand and nines Where the Wild

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Things Are, twenty eleven's Torchwood Mini series, and twenty twelve

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Sleepwalk with Me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna throw in a couple others my personal favorites too.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety eight, she had a I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's actually a hit or just a hit with

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 3>people who are children. In nineteen ninety eight, it's the

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 3>high school graduation comedy can't hardly wait, a classic amongst

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 3>my age group, but I don't know if it was

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 3>just a flash in the pan or not. And more importantly,

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<v Speaker 3>she plays the character Special Agent Einstein from The X

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Files during seasons ten and eleven. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>this is absolutely true, but this is the way my

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>wife and I always interpreted it that they were trying

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>to make a backdoor pilot for basically, hey, what if

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you know Scold Mully, No, not Molly and Scolder, Scully

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>and Molder, what if they left the show, could we

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>replace them with two new actors and kind of like

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>just keep the show going with like a brand new

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>set of FBI agents because her character, Agent Liz Einstein,

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 3>was absolutely a Scully replacement, Like it was just a

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 3>redheaded young FBI agent who was very skeptical of everything

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 3>she saw, et cetera, et cetera. And I really dug her.

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>In fact, anyway, I could go on for X Files

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 3>all day, but I'll skip past it. But between that

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 3>role can't hardly wait six and six feet under. I

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 3>have real affection for Lauren Ambrose. I think she's great now.

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<v Speaker 2>X File season ten and eleven. Was this like original

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>X Files run or is this like a return run?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this would have been right at the new revival

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>back in gosh, I don't even remember what year this was,

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, back when the X Files were just coming

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 3>back and like the future of the X Files is

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 3>an uncertain thing. They're only doing like six episodes per season.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Et cetera, et cetera. I assume they were attempting to

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>do a backdoor pilot to see what if these new

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 3>characters continued on the show instead of having, you know,

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 3>these actors who are clearly not as interested in sticking

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 3>around and are too busy with their own careers. That

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>was my guess. But anyway, I'm speculating entirely on that.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it would have been The X Files and Next

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Generation or something.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, which I definitely would have watched.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Well, anyway, I'm interested to check it out

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>because she's terrific in this just you know, she's awkward,

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 2>she's she's confident, and she's able to really pour herself

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>into these over the top alternate personalities as well, for sure.

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, who else is occupying this beach party world? Well,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>of course we have the surfers, and the leader of

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the surfers, the alpha, or so it seems on the beach,

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>is Kanaka, played by Thomas Gibson born nineteen sixty two.

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>This is Greg from Darman Greg, which ran a bunch

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>of seasons twenty five through twenty sixteen. He was also

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on Chicago Hope, Actor of Stage, Screen and tv AT.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Their credits include ninety twos Far and Away, ninety nine's

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Eyes Wide Shut, and two thousands The Flintstones in Viva

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Rock Vegas. I don't remember who he played in that one.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I did see. I was doing some research on this

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 3>movie and he was apparently filming Flintstones in Viva Rock

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 3>Vegas simultaneously while he filmed this movie. And there were

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>even one or two scenes that were supposed to be

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Kanaka scenes, but because he was busy in the Flintstones movie,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>they had to just give the scene to somebody else.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so he's good in this see he plays again.

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>It's on one level, this is our you know, macho

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>surfer alpha. But like I think most of the characters

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in this film, there's a buried web of desire that

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>runs counter to gender stereotypes and social standards. Yeah, pretty

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>much everyone in the film has some sort of like

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>sexual or gender repression going on here.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I would say the whole movie in many ways is

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>intentionally queer coded. And there's basically, yeah, the whole concept

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 3>of no matter what someone looks like on the outside,

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>there's something inside of them that makes them other or

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>perhaps just feel like an other and it being the

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 3>repressed nineteen sixties. You know, hopefully the world has gotten

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 3>better since then and people can express themselves a bit

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>more freely, we hope.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. At the same time, again, I'll stress that everything's

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>played for laughs here, so you know that, don't go

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>into it expecting like a really you know, in a

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>deep contemplation of these themes. I mean, I think there

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>is depth there, but also everything is played for laughs

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>for sure. All right. We also have the character star

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Cat now Starkat is a SYCH dropout turned surfer dude

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>who's very much a part of the Kanaka cult there

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>on the beach, and he is played by Nicholas Brendan

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>born nineteen seventy one. Yep, it's Xander from Buffy, the

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Heart and Soul of the Scooby Gang. Yeah, it's a

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>fun performance. He gives it is all here. This was

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>only his I think second film role, following Children of

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the Corn three in ninety five, and Buffy would have

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>kicked off in ninety seven. So he's worked on plenty

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>of other projects over the years, and it's still active,

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>though I think mostly smaller productions.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if he was the biggest star at the time. No,

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>well no, Darbyn Greg right, no, no Starvin Greg hadn't

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 3>started well no, no, anyway, he could have been.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>He might have been the biggest, the biggest star of

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the time. Yeah, because Buffy would have been in earnest

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>at that point.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 3>And some of these other actors who will mention very

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>soon were not stars yet. So I think when I

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 3>first saw this movie, he was the biggest star to me.

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's see host we have Okay, we

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>have a character by the name of Betina Barnes. This

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>is a screen starlet who has run away from the

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>studio system and her agents and so forth, and she's

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>living incognito or trying to in a creepy old beach

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>house with a dark history. And this character is played

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>by Kimberly Davies born nineteen seventy three, active on screen

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>from the mid nineties through twenty twelve, with credits that

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>include small roles in nineteen ninety nine Stormcatcher in two

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>thousand and ones made, as well as one shots in

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 2>such TV shows as Silk Stockings and Friends. It seems

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>like her longest gig, however, was two hundred and thirty

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>seven episodes of the Australian soap opera Neighbors from ninety

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>three through two thousand and five. So it's a pretty

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>fun performance here.

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Definitely a spot on understanding of what the role is

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 3>and then delivering that to the audience on the screen.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>All right. Also the Forest family, chick Litz family. They

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>have a Swedish exchange student, a hot Swedish exchange student

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 2>living with them, by the name of Lars, which is

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>generally you know, played for I like everything played for laugh.

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of exchange student humor here, and Lars

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>is played by Matt Kessler. Born in seventy two, Kessler

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 2>was active from mostly from ninety four through twenty ten,

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>after which he retired from acting to pursue a career

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 2>in science. I Believe I've read, with just a brief

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>return for a guest shot on the TV series Grim

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifteen, but his credits include ninety four's Quiz Show,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>ninety six is Waiting for Guffman, ninety eight's The Last

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Days of Disco, two thousand Scream three, and Ooh this

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>one kind of flew under my radar until the last minute.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>But he was in the two thousand Dune miniseries on

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Sci Fi in which he played fade Rotha Harkanan, so

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>a major role in the Doom miniseries that I completely

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>blinked on until the last minute.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Here he was missing his horn rimmed glasses so we

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 3>couldn't recognize him.

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the horn room glasses would have worked

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>worked great in Dune. That mini series did have a

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of great costumes in it, but I don't remember

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>this performance so much from it, but I've been very

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>tempted to go back and check it out with all

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the Dune enthusiasm happening now. But it also has some

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>i think rather rough cgi in it, so I'm a

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 2>little hesitant.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 3>How far did that mini series gets into the book series.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, they did Dune and then they came back and

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>did one titled Children of Doune, which adapts the second book, Messiah,

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>as well as the third book.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Children of Dune. Okay, so they pretty much did just

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>the original trilogy more or less.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, right, Yeah, the big the big hurdle is when

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you get to God Emperor of Dune with the giant

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 2>sandworm human Space Emperor, and that's that's that's more of

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>a hurdle we'll see how far they get with the

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>current efforts.

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Dune is in many ways very similar

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 3>to the Chronicles of Narnia, where many people want to

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>attempt to adapt the whole thing and everyone runs out

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 3>of gas after like two or three They're like, eh,

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what this is. This is getting to be

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot of work. We're just gonna stop now.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's and anytime Dune is, I mean, Dune

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>is is so successful. And again, I like, I just

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>saw the other day on an article where there's studios

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>are re looking at other Herbert novels. You know, they

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>want to get in on that that huge Frank Herbert payday.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>But I'm also thinking it's like, all right, I haven't

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>read all of Frank Herbert's other books, but you know,

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, not everything is going to be Dune. Not

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 2>everything in the Dune series is what you're expecting from Dune.

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 3>But I would love it if Denis Villaneu actually completes

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>the complete Dune saga. I can't for a second believe

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 3>that he will, but I would love it if he did.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that would be an incredible feats of filmmaking.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I think Messiah is gonna happen. I hope so Dune

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>part three, if you want to call it that, And

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>if he gets that far, I will.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Be very pleased. Agreed. Yeah, it'll at least feel like

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 3>a complete story if he finishes Messiah.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's see the rest of the cast.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there's Chicklet's mom. This is Missus Ruth Forrest,

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 2>played by Beth Broderick, and it's interesting. One of her

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>other key roles of note was playing Sabrina's mom on

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the ninety six through two thousand and three Sabrina the

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Teenage Witch series. She also directed three episodes of that show.

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>She started out in her career I think more and

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 2>more like Erotic Fair and then some sex comedies. There's

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>a spoof of women's prison movies in their titled slam Girls,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, this would have been early in

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>mid eighties, before transitioning increasingly into TV roles. She also

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>pops up in film. She's in nineteen nineties, The Bonfire,

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>The Vanities, and Yeah. She acted in such TV shows

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>as Murphy Brown, Hearts of Fire, The Five Missus Buchanans.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 2>She plays one of the Buchanans in that I think

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>CSI Miami Lost Sharp Objects, which we'll come back to

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in a second, and two episodes of The Chilling Adventures

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of Sabrina. I believe these are crossover episodes in which

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>they kind of like travel back to the previous adaptation.

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I watched quite a bit of that series, but I

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>never finished it. I definitely never saw that, and that

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 3>sounds fascinating.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I didn't make it that far either, but was

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>impressed with what I had seen.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>All right, we've been talking about people that went onto

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>big things. One of them is Amy Adams, who plays

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>marvel Anne, who is I guess she's kind of just

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>not maybe not the Queen Bee of teenage social world,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 2>but she's up there. She's definitely one of the cool

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>beach girls.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 3>As a very very side note from what I heard,

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>marvel Anne on the original stage play was also a

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>drag role, and I'm assuming just like when they adapted

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 3>the whole play, they're like, oh this doesn't need to

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 3>be drag either, Okay whatever. Yeah.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Charles Bush I saw in one interview where he's like,

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, part of me was like, oh, now I

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>can finally get all my friends cast all my friends

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in this and then he's like, oh, no, we're all

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>too old, but yeah, we have Amy Adams here born

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 2>seventy four, six time Oscar nominee. This is only her

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>second film or TV role. She started out in Dance

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>in Theater and after this film did a lot of

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>TV and smaller film roles, even popping up in one

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 2>episode of Buffy. I don't remember her from that either,

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>before hitting it big in Spielberg's two thousand and two

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 2>film Catch Me If you Can. Subsequent movies include Let's

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>See There's June Bug. That was two thousand and six,

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I think, two thousand and nine's Doubt, twenty eleven's The Fighter,

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen's The Master, twenty fourteen's American Hustle, twenty sixteen's

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 2>The Arrival. In twenty nineteens Vice, she played Lois Lane

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 2>in the DC Snyder Verse movies and was nominated for

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>an Emmy for the twenty nineteen series Sharp Objects. So

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it's one of these you know, she's great in it,

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>but it's also one of those roles that it's just

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 2>interesting because you know how big she's going to become,

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and you can and you can see the tools already present.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>In her craft for sure. The queen Bee of the

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>high school is played is Roda, played by Kathleen Robertson.

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>This is a Canadian actress with a lot of TV

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and film credits, including a series regular role on season

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>six of The Expanse. She was also in Bates Motel

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>and earlier on a series called Maniac Mansion. All right,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>but okay, so I don't think we've really hinted at

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>this yet, but this is a murder film as well.

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>This is in addition to being a send up of

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 2>sixties beach comedies, it's also a little bit of a

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>send up of seventy slasher picks.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Right. Oh, for sure, there's some Jello influences that are

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 3>very very obvious, and I think perhaps too, I think

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 3>there are some obvious like Scooby Doo references as well,

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 3>where they've just heightened the what if Scooby Doo was

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 3>a Jello film? I think that kind of ties into it.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so since we have crimes, we also don't have

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to have an investigator. That investigator is Captain Monica Stark

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>played by Charles Bush. So, as we pointed out earlier,

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it considered himself too old at this point to convincingly

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>play chicklet, So he wrote himself a new character, Captain

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Monica Stark, a no nonsense police investigator. And this is

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>also very much a drag performance played for camp and

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>for humor.

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>In that ninety three Fresh Air interview, again predates this film,

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Bush stated that he thought, at least the time of

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 2>drag performances is often falling into sort of two broad categories,

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>like the beautiful and the stylish, and then something that's

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe a bit more intent intionally lurid. I'm not sure

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 2>if these classifications really hold true today, because i mean,

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hand. Drag performance has certainly always been a

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 2>part of human performance culture, but it's also come a

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>long way in American culture over the past few decades,

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and Bush played a big role in popularizing and elevating

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>it early on. So at any rate, he said in

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>ninety three that his performances, he felt fell somewhere in between.

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'd say I'd see Starkling's more classy, you know,

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 2>more of a classic Hollywood feminine strength kind of a role,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>but of course again with lots of camp layered on,

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and ultimately for laughs.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh and then of course it's a beach party movie,

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>so the music is incredibly important, and Seth, you're you're

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>more plugged into it, into the music scene than me,

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>so you'll have to jump in and talk about some

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>of these acts. You know more brought them than me.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>But the main score here is composed by being American

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 2>musician and music producer who's been associated with a number

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of bands and tons of releases over the years, going

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>back to at least the late seventies, of note being

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>what the Ben Von Combo, the Ben Vn Quintet. His

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety seven album Rambler sixty five is apparently of note,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 2>as he recorded it entirely in his car, a nineteen

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty five Rambler American. So were you familiar with Ben

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Vaughn prior to this picture.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Only by name, not by something that I had personally

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 3>listened to. But someone who I had personally listened to

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 3>is also involved in this movie. But we'll get to

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>that soon when it.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Comes to scores for Ben Vaughn. Weirdly enough, one of

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the earliest credited scores ninety six is a Sue Hart

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 2>produced and co written Hong Kong action film titled Black Masks,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>directed by Danny Lee and starring Jet Lee. He's one

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of like three credit composers on that. But I think

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>this has more to do with music changes made for

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 2>release in the UK and in the US, so I'm

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>going to mark that one is uncertain. But his scores

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>certainly go back to ninety seven's Lewis and Clark and George,

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>then Psycho Beach Party, and you followed this up with

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 2>work on TV's Third Rock from the Sun, that seventies show,

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that eighty show and Grounded for Life makes sense now.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>The soundtrack is also of note here. The film score

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 2>features several tracks by Love Strait Jackets, who also appear

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in the film. They get to perform at the titular

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 2>beach party that happens late in the picture, you know,

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>very much in the style of you know, having Little

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Richard pop up in your your old beach party movie.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And other artists featured on the soundtrack include man Or

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Astro Man, The Fathoms, The Halibuts, four Piece Suit, and

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the Hillbilly Soul Surfers.

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I would say Low Straight Jackets is a band I'm

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 3>very familiar with. They've been around for such a long

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>time now. I think they have somewhere around thirteen or

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 3>fourteen albums at this point, and it's just, you know,

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 3>it's such a fun genre, and you know, being a

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 3>beach rock surf rock band, just kind of deciding that

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>that's the route you're gonna go down. In many ways,

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>it seems very limiting, but I think in many ways

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>it's also very liberating that once you're kind of in

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>that realm, you can just kind of like mess around

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 3>all you want as long as you kind of hit

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 3>certain like, you know, as long as you have like

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 3>certain tropes that you revisit every once in a while,

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 3>everything else is free game. And a quick shout out

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>to an Atlanta based surf rock band, I really like

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>the Mystery Men very very good. Yeah, yeah, yea.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess, like you said, it's kind of a decision

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to never be You're never gonna go after like super

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>mainstream popularity. But if you succeed in this genre, you're

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna have You're gonna have a place moving forward. You're

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>always people are gonna keep coming back to you for

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 2>this particular sound, this particular vibe, and.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it never quite reached the level of like

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 3>mainstream success that turned it into something that could kind

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 3>of like fall by the wayside, like for example, it

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>took something like SKA. SKA suddenly became mainstream popular at

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 3>one point, and therefore there was a backlash and suddenly

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 3>people hated SCAT. Come on, how could you hate SCA?

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>But it happened thanks too many you know, swing dances

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 3>and too many gap commercials and all that kind of stuff.

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.879
<v Speaker 3>So that being the case, surf rock never really got

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 3>that like mainstream success, and so therefore it's always just

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of like been this like casual fun thing that

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 3>everybody likes in the background, just for funnel throughout. Another

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 3>surf rock band I really love this is a band

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 3>called La Louse La Luz and they're from Seattle, and

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 3>they are often called surf Noir, which is very fun,

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>very very very slow. I mean, honestly, just picture what

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 3>you think surf music out of Seattle would sound like.

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what they sound like, kind of sad, depressed beach music.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a great point on SKA. You know, I hadn't

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>thought about this before, but I listened to a number

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>of the channels on Soma FM, which anyone out there

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 2>if you want a nice alternative to mainstream radio without

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>ads in multiple music genres. Some of them is a mainstay.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I love them and I try to support them, but

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 2>they'll occasionally, you know, they'll they'll sneak some SKA into

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>if he's one of their channels or or one of

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>their sub shows, and yeah, there is. I hadn't really

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>thought about it, but there is this kind of sense

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>where like SKA was just ragged on so much that

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy it you kind of have to sneak it

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 2>in under the radar, sometimes alongside like you know, sort

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>of other reggae inspire.

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Genres, right right, But you know, people can't deny, you know,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 3>the specials are amazing, so is you know, uh Operation Ivy,

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, like like there's some amazing perennial hit SKA

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 3>out there. I actually, I'll throw out another little plug.

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>There was an amazing little documentary I saw called I

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 3>want to say it's called pick It Up. I'm gonna

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 3>google that to make sure real quick, but it was.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 3>It was really good actually, And also I'll throw out

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 3>a quick little plug. There's a documentary I saw not

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 3>too long ago called pick It Up SCA in the nineties,

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and it goes through all of like the stages between

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>like you know, first wave SKA, second wave SCA, third

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:32.280
<v Speaker 3>wave SKA and it's like backlash against that and hopefully

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 3>what's coming now, which is fourth wave SKA and hey,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 3>another plug for someone who's not paying me. It's on

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Tooby go watch it.

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I When it comes to surf music,

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I do listen to a little bit of surf music

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 2>here and there on Soma FM, but I'm not really

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>familiar with a lot of the band specifically. I do

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 2>occasionally like look up and see who's playing. I know

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the Blue Hawaiians are featured a lot there, but so

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 2>they probably were playing jackets as well. I listened to

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of them while working on the notes for

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>this episode, and in particular I was really taken with

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a great horror themed surf album from twenty thirteen titled

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Mondo Zombie Boogaloo. They're one of three artists on there.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>There's the Flesh Tones, Southern Culture on the Skids, and

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>lots straight Jackets and it's a lot of fun. There

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>are tracks of I think Southern Culture on the Skids

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>has a track about the Tingler on there. I know

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that song yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tingler Blues, I think

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Southern culture on the skids. By the way, their first

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>EP was nineteen eighty four's Voodoo Beach Party, so they

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.439
<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of that beach party DNA as well.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Very nice.

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's let's jump into the plot of

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the film. I don't think we're gonna go blow for

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>blow on everything here, but there's a lot of fun

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff to talk about. Well, let's go to the Psycho

0:47:59.040 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Beach Party.

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 3>All right. In the very beginning, we are already in

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 3>a movie, in a movie. We don't know that yet,

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 3>but we are. The screen is black and white. We

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>are in uh, what seems like a oh, I'm going

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to say, like a late fifties you know, kind of

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 3>like schlocky b movie drive in film. And it's ridiculous.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 3>We're in a fifties diner where we see a greaser

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 3>man trying to talk to the woman that he loves,

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 3>who can he can only see her face. She's a

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 3>what is a pizza what are those called when you

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 3>serve people food waitress? A pizza waitress.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 2>But she's like, there's like a tiny window, right, She's

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 2>in the back and it's almost like she's been if

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you're familiar with bow not bower birds, hornbills the way

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a male hornbill will put the female hornbill like in

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the tree and like fill in, so the feeds her

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.919
<v Speaker 2>through a tiny hole. It's like that kind of vibe.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 2>It's strange.

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 3>It's like she's like behind the register at the front

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>of a diner, except there's a huge partition that blocked

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 3>off everything except her face. And this man cannot hold

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 3>back his affection and his need to see her, so

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 3>he tears down the partition, and oh no, she is

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 3>a three headed mutant. And the two other heads are

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 3>the fakest heads you've ever seen. They are essentially rubber

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Halloween masks, just kind of like glued to each shoulder.

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 3>And we now see that this is a film within

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 3>a film, and we are at a drive in, and

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 3>we are going to be introduced to some characters in

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 3>pretty quick succession. At this drive in, we see little

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 3>glimpses of what happens on the screen, and we'll get

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 3>to know this character who's playing on the screen a

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 3>little bit later. But yeah, suddenly her two heads are

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>gone and she's a giant attack of the fifty foot

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 3>woman style monster, and like where'd her heads go? I

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 3>always wondered that, like why when she got bigger, did

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>she lose the other two heads?

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I guess in a way, it's kind

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>of reminding you that nobody here except for let and

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 2>her friend are actually here to see the movie. Everyone

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>is here to at least make out, So it doesn't

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>matter that that everything is out of whack on the screen.

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>But again, it's mostly played for last. But I also

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the the tableau here at the beginning

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of like here's this guy and you know, he's having

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 2>to look through this little screen to see this the

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>woman that he's in love with. It's like you can

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>only you know, view her through this like thin window,

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 2>this thin frame. And then when that frame is torn away,

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it's too much for him, like he loses his mind,

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 2>she goes on a rampage. Like It's probably like a

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:42.280
<v Speaker 2>nice way to summarize sort of the shackles of nineteen

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.919
<v Speaker 2>sixties and or just general mainstream American culture as seen

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 2>by people by everyone who has any any kind of

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 2>inclination to break free from those confines.

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 3>That's a good interpretation. I like it. So, as you mentioned,

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 3>we have our protagonist Florence aka chick Lit. I'm sure

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 3>we will call her both throughout our discussion here, but yeah,

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Florence and chick Lit are the same person. However, at

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 3>this point in the movie, she is not chick Lit yet.

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 3>She is just Florence. She's there with her friend, I

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>forget her nerdy friend's name, but anyway, her Dean I believe,

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 3>played by Danny Wheeler Nice Burdeen. Yes, So Florence and

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 3>her very nerdy friend Berdein are at this drive in,

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and as you mentioned, they're the only ones. They're not

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 3>on dates. They're just two friends trying to watch the

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 3>movie while everyone else is making out around them and

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 3>being very sexually charged, et cetera, et cetera. So they

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 3>are frustrated with this situation in general. But as Florence

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 3>goes up to the concession stand, we do get a

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 3>quick kind of introduction to many little characters all over

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the place. We see this gang of surfers hanging out

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 3>in one car. We see our main Xander character. He

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 3>is on a date with some girlfriend of their school.

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 3>We meet the popular girl Marvel, and she is very

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 3>enticed with this boy. She doesn't know the Xander character.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 3>We slowly, not slowly, we briefly pass by the Swedish

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 3>exchange student, who of course knows Florence, and we meet

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:15.280
<v Speaker 3>him briefly. It's actually kind of fascinating because they quickly

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 3>throw you into all of this. It's not a traditional

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 3>structure for introducing characters. It's very much just like almost

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 3>like an overture to the film we're about to see

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 3>with very little, like hand holding, very little. There's plenty

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 3>of exposition, but it's not traditional exposition. It's just it's

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 3>almost just like a pile of exposition that you are

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 3>expected to kind of sift through and catch up quickly.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And it works, It works just fine. Yeah, yeah, So

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>we are given a very subtle hint during this scene

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 3>of the character. Florence suddenly goes into a bit of

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 3>a trance, and then more or less she just kind

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.399
<v Speaker 3>of like disappears from the scene. We aren't really sure

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>what's happening, what's going on, It's just we know something

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 3>happened to Florence when she was up at the hot

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.399
<v Speaker 3>dog concession stand at this drive in theater. Then very

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 3>quickly afterwards, we see that someone has been murdered.

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right, first murder of the film, and it won't.

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Be the last, absolutely not. And what we'll get more

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 3>into the reasons for these murders later on, but at first,

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 3>all we know is that someone has been murdered. So

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 3>now we are thrown into the opening credits and it

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 3>is a go go dancer, and that's exactly what you need.

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Surf music and a go go dancer while the opening

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 3>credits go on. It kind of reminds me of like

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 3>the opening credits for like do the right thing, you know,

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>or like Rosie Perez is dancing along to it. It's

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 3>that kind of just extended solo dancer over music while

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you are being introduced to all the actors and directors

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and and whatnot.

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 2>It's very aggressive. She is dancing right at you, daring

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 2>at you the.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Viewer, much like Rosie Perez and do the right thing.

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Then we are back and suddenly there is an investigation

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 3>going on. We see the police captain investigating the murder

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 3>along with a uniform cop and it's all very I guess,

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 3>it's all very procedural, like there's nothing like had the

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 3>ordinary that's going on, but it's all everything is everything

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 3>that we explain throughout this whole movie is going to

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 3>be very tongue in cheek, very intentionally corny. But here's

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 3>the compliment I can give to this entire movie, which

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I really think is outstanding. Everybody's giving the same level

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 3>of a corny delivery. Therefore, it's clearly intentional. Everything is

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 3>happening in a very molded, very directed way, and therefore

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 3>it works perfectly. Like to compare it to something that

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work, think about the movie Batman and Robin Right,

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 3>the Joel Schumacher second Batman movie from him. That movie

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 3>is incredible if you only watch Uma Thurman playing a

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Batman sixty six character like she she understood the assignment.

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 3>She got it. Uma Thurman delivered the Batman sixty six

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.240
<v Speaker 3>character that I think Joel Schumacher was looking for, whereas,

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, no offense to every other actor in the movie.

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 3>They did not. You know, George what's his name, George

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Clinton played Batman in that movie. Cloney, Yeah, thank you,

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 3>George Clooney. He was absolutely playing as like a jaded

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 3>ninety Hollywood star, like that's not the role. He needed

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 3>to be Adam West in that film, and he didn't. Anyway,

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Everyone in this film knows that it's Batman sixty six.

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Everyone is camping it up, all giving the same style

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 3>of delivery, and it's really wonderful. This is going to

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 3>be a bit of a strange association, but I do

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 3>mean it. This movie is almost a trauma film, but

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like a G rated trauma film, which by comparison,

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 3>is still in R but compared to trauma, it never

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 3>goes that extreme, but it's still it feels like a

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 3>gentle light trauma film for the family. That's what it

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>feels like. The pasties are on exactly. Yeah, the bur

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>last click you mentioned, so the murder investigation is happening

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 3>in the background throughout this film. We will we will

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 3>check in more with the police captain as things go on.

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 3>But Florence and Burden are now at the beach and

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Florence sees all the surfers and she decides that she

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 3>really wants to be a surfer. You know, she wants

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 3>to go do this, but everyone is telling her she

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.879
<v Speaker 3>can't because of her gender. They're saying, no, you can't surf,

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.680
<v Speaker 3>you're a girl. Get out of here. And ultimately she

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 3>goes up to this same group of gosh I has

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 3>to call them a gang a crew. Yeah, I suppose

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 3>a surf crew is the best word for them. None

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:00.479
<v Speaker 3>of them are particularly intimidating. This is where I'm gonna

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 3>keep calling him Xander. This is where Xander and all

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:05.719
<v Speaker 3>his surf friends are all hanging out. Gosh, I want

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 3>to say, there's like five of them, and they're all

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 3>more or less, you know, the same kind of guy.

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 3>So they inform her that they're definitely not gonna teach

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 3>her how to serve. Florence because they're like boss, the

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 3>like the head surf bum. The Great Kanaka would think

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 3>that they were, you know, being completely ridiculous if they

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 3>were teaching some girl how to surf. So Florence, being

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 3>a driven female protagonist, goes no, no, no, I will

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 3>go talk to the Great Kanaka and I will convince

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 3>him to teach me how to surf because I am driven.

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 3>So she goes off. She's being very proactive when she

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 3>goes and finds the Great Kanaka in his very archetypical

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 3>surf bum shack. Then when she goes in there, he

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.919
<v Speaker 3>gives the same reaction at first, go away, go away,

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 3>get out of here. You know, I'm not interested in

0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 3>like hanging out with like a teenage girl and teaching

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 3>her how to serf. This is ridiculous because I think

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 3>even in this context her his character, the Great Kanaka

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.440
<v Speaker 3>is supposed to probably be in his oh thirties at

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>least right late twenties, early thirties.

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he's the king of the beach here, and

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>so he's been around probably a bit too long, literally

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 2>taky shack on the beach.

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 3>For sure, and so therefore he's like, no, get out

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 3>of here, I'm not going to teach you. But then

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 3>at this point we see another one of these spells

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 3>that Florence experiences a bit of a blackout but a

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>bit of a something. We still aren't quite sure what's

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 3>going on, but what was teased at in the earlier scene.

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 3>And suddenly we see that she has thrown herself into

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 3>a completely different personality named Anne Bowman, and Bowman is

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 3>now in charge, and Anne Bowman is a is a

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 3>no nonsense, you know gosh in many ways that is

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 3>referenced later very much a dominatrix type role, very much

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 3>an I'm in charge, shut up, I'm getting my way.

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm in Bowman, you know, Yeah, and.

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Very much an old Hollywood kind of vibe too, like

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that kind of like an old Hollywood vixen vibe, but

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>with these with these kinky corners as well, where she's like,

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna what if I put you on a leash

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and walk you down the beach? And he's excited and

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 2>terrified by this at the same time, but he's like, like, like,

0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that would be great.

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 3>What would the guys say? Though, it's almost like a

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Tululah Bankhead performance, very very big and yeah, no no,

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, he has no interest in Florence, but a Bowman, Hey,

0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 3>this is great. So he decides he will keep her around.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 3>He will teach her, not because he likes Florence, but

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 3>because he likes Anne Bowman, this alternate personality of hers

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 3>that is somewhere deep inside of her. So this continues,

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 3>and it's confusing. No one really knows how to deal

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 3>with this, including the audience. But he brings her down

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 3>to the beach and shows her to the guys and goes, no, no, no,

0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 3>we're hanging out with her. She's gonna she's gonna be

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 3>a part of our crew and we're gonna do this. Uh.

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 3>She learns how she's introduced to, you know, the gang,

1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 3>and everything's going fine, but quickly they still tease her

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 3>for for for being a girl, for not being very

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 3>good at surfing yet to all that stuff, and they

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.240
<v Speaker 3>give her the nickname of chick Lit because yeah, she's

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 3>a chick, but she's not even a full chick. She's

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 3>a chick flat.

1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And of course obviously it sounds a bit like Gidget,

1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 2>so it works. We also get all these great scenes

1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of the actual surfing, which I couldn't get enough of

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.160
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, it's, I guess this is in keeping

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 2>with the old beach movies, right, it's a it's a

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:41.520
<v Speaker 2>combination of actual beach surfing footage and then these totally

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 2>fake blue or green screen sequences, right.

1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's it's all completely phony and very fun.

1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.360
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, she embraces it. She goes, yeah, I'll

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 3>be chick Lit. You know, I'm in for this. This

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<v Speaker 3>is this is gonna be fun. Uh So, now at

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<v Speaker 3>this point we're starting to kind of sow the seeds

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<v Speaker 3>of what's going to come as like the murder mystery

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of this, and Florence aka Chicklet aka and Bowman

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely like the first, let's say, potential killer. They

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<v Speaker 3>set up several, well a few potential killers, and Florence

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely the first one, with her discussing how when

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<v Speaker 3>she goes into these alternate personalities, the Florence character blacks out. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>she goes through these spells of not knowing what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>at all. Therefore she could be doing anything during that time.

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<v Speaker 3>So not even Florence herself knows if she is this

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<v Speaker 3>potential killer that the police captain is investigating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she didn't even know why it occurs. We the viewer,

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<v Speaker 2>we quickly realize that it seems to be triggered by

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<v Speaker 2>sexism to a large degree. But then also we eventually

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<v Speaker 2>realize and Kanaka realizes this is a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I be getting hit myself here? But it's something

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<v Speaker 2>about circle patterns as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's a triggering method that kind of kicks

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<v Speaker 3>off from multiple personalities, of which she has at least

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<v Speaker 3>three or four. I think we definitely see around four

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<v Speaker 3>of them, but perhaps more in like rapid succession at

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<v Speaker 3>some points.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, an Bowman's the main one, but there's another one

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<v Speaker 2>that I think she says is based on like a

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<v Speaker 2>cashier at the local grocery store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, a strong willed woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't I kind of get the impression there

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<v Speaker 2>might have been more in the original stage version of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because again Bush's specialty was like multiple.

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<v Speaker 3>Characters, right, Yeah, I feel like there was at least

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<v Speaker 3>one that was speaking Spanish. I feel like there was

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<v Speaker 3>at least one that was an opera singer that you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned earlier. Yeah, there were a few in there, but

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<v Speaker 3>and Bowman is the main one for sure. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>back at the beach, and this is setting up more characters.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like this spooky old beach house that has like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of rumors about it, and they see that

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<v Speaker 3>there's this beautiful who is staying in this what's considered

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<v Speaker 3>to be like a cursed house. It turns out that

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<v Speaker 3>it's Betina Barnes, the actress that played the three headed

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<v Speaker 3>woman in that drive in movie. From the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the film, she is renting this house and staying there,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's staying a bit incognito, just trying to like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, have like a nice separation from her Hollywood life.

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<v Speaker 3>But she very quickly befriends the surf crew and more

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<v Speaker 3>specifically Burdeen is that's her name, Yes, the nerd friend

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<v Speaker 3>of Florence. She's feeling a bit neglected by Florence with

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<v Speaker 3>her finding her new friends with the surf crew, so

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<v Speaker 3>Berdein becomes like the Gal Friday, the assistant personal assistant

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<v Speaker 3>to Beatina Barnes. And so that's setting up like another

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, b story happening throughout this movie. So

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<v Speaker 3>lots of clues, lots of backstories, lots of setting up

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<v Speaker 3>all these different little threads and potential red herrings, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But ultimately we are setting up four killers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to kind of skip the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>Scooby Doo episode and kind of kind of get towards

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<v Speaker 3>closer to the end. The four killers that are being

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<v Speaker 3>set up. I mentioned Florence, I mentioned Betina Barnes. They

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<v Speaker 3>never really give Betina Barnes much of like a motive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just basically that she's like an outsider, that she

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<v Speaker 3>is just like like she by coincidence, has arrived around

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<v Speaker 3>the same time these murders are happening. The other character

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<v Speaker 3>is Florence's mom. We only see these little bits and

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<v Speaker 3>pieces of her, but she's strongly implied to be a

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<v Speaker 3>killer just because she's quite the stickler, quite quite regimented,

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<v Speaker 3>which ties into the kind of victims we are getting,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'll get into soon. Yeah. Then the fourth and

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<v Speaker 3>last is the Great Kanaka. Once again, barely any reasons

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<v Speaker 3>are given why the Great Kanaka is considered a suspect

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<v Speaker 3>in this but the Captain is definitely investigating him as

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<v Speaker 3>one of the four potential killers. I suppose it's just

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a loner on the beach and he could

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like get away with whatever he wants, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. We also see in a flashback that he's

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<v Speaker 3>a former police officer and he was the partner of

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<v Speaker 3>the police captain and they had a romantic relationship that

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<v Speaker 3>fell apart because of her ambition to raise higher and

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah and not just be a housewife and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's not There's not a love triangle in

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<v Speaker 2>this film. It's more of like a love cat's cradle

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<v Speaker 2>because we have chick lit kind of pursuing starcat Aka Xander,

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<v Speaker 2>and Xander is pursuing marvel Ann and I believe dating her,

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<v Speaker 2>but also like all the male characters are enraptured by

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<v Speaker 2>Betina Barnes, right, And and then we have Anne Bowman,

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<v Speaker 2>the an Bowman personality is in this sexually dominating again

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<v Speaker 2>played for comedy relationship with Kanaka. And then, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>we learn that Kanaka was previously in a steamy relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Captain Monica Stark. So there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>intricacy to this scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>And to make it even more complex, because why not

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<v Speaker 3>two of the members of the surf crew are clearly

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<v Speaker 3>in love with each other. Oh yeah, and at every

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity they will oil each other up and wrestle on

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<v Speaker 3>the beach, and you know, it's revealed they're somewhat aware.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like like they they almost want to tell each

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<v Speaker 3>other they love each other. They almost want to just

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<v Speaker 3>be a couple. But you know, it's it being the

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<v Speaker 3>repressed nineteen sixties. They haven't quite found a way to

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<v Speaker 3>get there yet. But it's it is funny. They're homoerotic

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling on the pose. Yes, just just it comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere. It just lasts for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 3>and we even see later on, Like I said, this

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<v Speaker 3>whole movie is very queer coded. Bettina attempts a kiss

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<v Speaker 3>with Florence pretty late into the film as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>it does seem, like you said, a cat's cradle. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>wants something, and everyone's a little repressed, and no one

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<v Speaker 3>can quite just say what they want. No one can

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<v Speaker 3>can quite just kind of get there and be honest

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<v Speaker 3>and communicate openly and in many ways just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>be themselves. That's that's not really in anyone's DNA at

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<v Speaker 3>this point in this story. So more more kills are happening,

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<v Speaker 3>and during each of these murders it's very jollo and

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<v Speaker 3>by that I mean all we see is that the

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<v Speaker 3>camera is the killer's perspective, and we see a gloved

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<v Speaker 3>hand performing these deeds, whether it be a stabbing with

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<v Speaker 3>like a butcher's knife, or whether it be a gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>what's what are some other murders, they're all pretty ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even remember if we see the method

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily in like Rhoda's murder, the wheelchair bound sort of

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<v Speaker 2>queen Bee of the high school social scene, but like

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<v Speaker 2>she's just we see her in the next scene is

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<v Speaker 2>like they found her body. Her head very faith looking

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<v Speaker 2>is just on top of the one of the wheels

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<v Speaker 2>of the wheelchair spinning in circles.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's right, And so this is a great time

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about the kill counts and the reasons why s. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned Roda. Roda is like, honestly, she's like the

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<v Speaker 3>school mean girl more or less. Like I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>anytime you talk to her, she's going to say something

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<v Speaker 3>cutting and insulting to anyone who she's talking to. She's

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<v Speaker 3>not a nice woman at all. And then we have

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<v Speaker 3>let's see, one of the beach guys has psoriasis, and

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<v Speaker 3>the only way we know that is because he's the

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<v Speaker 3>one who's always wearing a T shirt because he's embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one is this other guy who

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<v Speaker 3>there are many references to his testicles. That's just like

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<v Speaker 3>he's like psychic through his testicles or something. It's many

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<v Speaker 3>references are made to this that don't quite make sense,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think it's supposed to. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>had the woman from the drive in at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>So those four are the four victims that we are

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<v Speaker 3>given throughout this film. What the police captain discovers is

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<v Speaker 3>that each victim has some sort of like biological otherness

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<v Speaker 3>to them, something is making them not the average American

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<v Speaker 3>straightforward person, which of course seems to be like this

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing theme about here is that, you know, what's the appearance,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the facade, what are we really? What are we inside?

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<v Speaker 3>Et cetera. So the first victim from the drive in,

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<v Speaker 3>she had a hairlip, the second victim, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>he had psoriasis, the third victim he only had one testicle.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the fourth victim, as you mentioned, Robert, she

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<v Speaker 3>was in a wheelchair. So so there was something quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote wrong with them, and by wrong in the eyes

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<v Speaker 3>of the killer, just means not average, not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're looking for someone Monica Stark in particular, Captain

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<v Speaker 2>Monica Stark is looking for somebody who is really down

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<v Speaker 2>on outsiders, on anyone that's not fitting the thin definition

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<v Speaker 2>of what a a quote unquote normal person should be

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<v Speaker 2>in this, you know, this sixty cinematic film world. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course that means that chick Lit's mom is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>high up on the suspect list. And for me, as

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<v Speaker 2>a viewer, like you know, if this war were indeed

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<v Speaker 2>an Italian horror film, I would be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's chick lit, right, we were investing this much time

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<v Speaker 2>in someone's mental illness, like they're probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the killer unless you go for the twist. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to be her, but not in this film,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we like chick lit too much. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she's safe. But the mother seems to be the prime

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<v Speaker 2>suspect that they're building up. And so that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was going.

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<v Speaker 3>And ultimately the police agreed with you. At a point

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<v Speaker 3>later on in the film, all these killings have happened,

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<v Speaker 3>all of the set up, all these red herrings, everything's

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<v Speaker 3>going on, Like I said, very Scooby do. If you

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<v Speaker 3>like Scooby Doo, you'll like this. The police eventually arrest

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<v Speaker 3>Florence's mother. They go, no, you are the killer. We

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<v Speaker 3>know that you've done all these things. That's it. You're

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<v Speaker 3>going to jail. And it all kind of I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>it fully pieces together, but like all the puzzle pieces

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<v Speaker 3>kind of formed together. So Florence has like this memory

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<v Speaker 3>of herself when she was younger, where her mom like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she liked to like, you know, meet the

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<v Speaker 3>sailors at the port and like, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>just be promiscuous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she was a patriot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's true. She was a patriot in her promiscuity

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<v Speaker 3>and all of this, I guess just had like a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an effect on Florence as a child. Ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>she was pushed aside often so where mother could go

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<v Speaker 3>off and be a patriot. And so this led to

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<v Speaker 3>a traumatic event that happened in Florence's very very very

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<v Speaker 3>young childhood that she had completely blocked out, which was

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<v Speaker 3>that her and her little brother, which we didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know she had, were playing on the swings. Florence, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>pushed him too hard and she went over the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the bar and just flew off like a bottle

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<v Speaker 3>rocket like it definitely the most ridiculous death in this fiel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, this is played so over the top and

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<v Speaker 2>for laughs, is this is not a pet cemetery in

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<v Speaker 2>this sequence? This is more like a scene from Matilda.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know, it's looney Tunes for sure. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there are literal smoke lines from the boy flying

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<v Speaker 3>off the swing set. So yes, she accidentally was involved

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<v Speaker 3>in her little brother's death and this affected her and

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<v Speaker 3>I think perhaps kicked off this whole multiple personalities disorder

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<v Speaker 3>for her that she was repressing these memories and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>blocking them out as a way to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is all sad, and she's worried about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and her mom has just been arrested. Like a lot's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. She's not having a great evening. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if you all remember early on we mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that there is a Swedish exchange student staying in the

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<v Speaker 3>house with them. His name is Lars. Lars goes here,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll drive you home, Florence, come on, let's get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here, so that they leave, and oh, we got

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<v Speaker 3>some twists coming. Big twist, Lars is the killer. Spoilers,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take that back. Spoilers, Lars is the killer. And

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately it turns out that when we were referencing that

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<v Speaker 3>beach house earlier in this film, the one that was

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<v Speaker 3>like cursed, that there was a big murder spree that

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<v Speaker 3>happened there where very Michael Meyers esque. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>young son who was fed up with all of the

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<v Speaker 3>what he viewed as like weaknesses in his family, all

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<v Speaker 3>the abnormalities, like I believe what did they say, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, one was deaf or something like that, Like

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<v Speaker 3>each family member had a non average, you know, physical thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and he hated that. He just wanted to be normal.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted everyone to be normal, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. So he killed his whole family and he

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<v Speaker 3>went on the lamb. So he's continued this that this

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<v Speaker 3>has been his serial killer thing that he's been doing.

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<v Speaker 3>His real name is Larry, He's not from Sweden. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a whole facade. Now. He thought Florence was a

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly average, normal American girl, and that's what he is

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<v Speaker 3>fine with. He wants everyone to be normal. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the revelation that she has a multiple personality disorder, he

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<v Speaker 3>now has to kill Florence too. So now it's a

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<v Speaker 3>big chase that they end up at the drive in again.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the symmetry of the film starting at the

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<v Speaker 3>drive in and ending at the drive in, very very

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<v Speaker 3>nice filmmaking there, and you know, chase and chasing, running, running,

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, and Lars is he falls

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<v Speaker 3>off the top of the drive in screen and falls

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<v Speaker 3>to his death. Everything is resolved, happy ending, right, Everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's happy. This is all I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Monica like shoots him off of it. It's like she's

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<v Speaker 2>up there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So yeah, it's it's a it's a whole action

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<v Speaker 3>running around scene. But yeah, there we go, happy ending.

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<v Speaker 3>The killer has been dealt with. But wait, twist, this

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<v Speaker 3>entire film was a delusion inside Florence's head. She is

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<v Speaker 3>in a modern mental health institute and she is receiving

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<v Speaker 3>electroshock therapy. She's looking around at her and everyone around

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<v Speaker 3>her are characters that are inside of this psycho beach

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<v Speaker 3>party story, like I believe Roda was like the nurse

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<v Speaker 3>who was like applying the electrodes, and we get a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a wizard of Oz like oh and you

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<v Speaker 3>were there, and you were there. We got one of

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<v Speaker 3>those moments. And then twist, twist, twist. It turns out

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<v Speaker 3>this is a movie in a movie in a movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see a couple of youths at a modern

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<v Speaker 3>drive in watching this film, the film of Florence inside

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<v Speaker 3>the mental institute. So they're upset about this. They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's it was all a dream? What a terrible ending?

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<v Speaker 3>This is corny, And then we are treated with a

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<v Speaker 3>final scare in which Anne Bowman jumps out of the

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<v Speaker 3>back seed of their car wielding a butcher knife. Yea

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<v Speaker 3>then we cut to the go Go Dan serum, we

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<v Speaker 3>get some credits. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just to drive home that this was all

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<v Speaker 2>about laughs guys. Yeah, and I also I do love

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<v Speaker 2>that the initial twist of like, oh no, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>electroshock scenario. It does seem to reference, of course overtly

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<v Speaker 2>the Wizard of Oz that they and you were there

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<v Speaker 2>and you were there, but also nineteen eighty five's Returned

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<v Speaker 2>to Oz, in which electroshock therapy is plays a major

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<v Speaker 2>plot point in the you know, the non Oz portions

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<v Speaker 2>of the film. Yeah, so yeah, they they ended with laughs,

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<v Speaker 2>end it very broadly and ridiculously, you know, repeat yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a show that's sort of a feel. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this one was. This was such a fun film, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>never a dull moment, a lot of a lot of laughs,

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<v Speaker 2>and not everything necessarily lands. And this is I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to come back to the Strangers with Candy compare,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, like this is this is again a

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties like late eighties comedy that was adapted to

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand comedy film. So not all the comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since it's you know, it's kind of burless dragstyle

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<v Speaker 2>humor of the time period. Not everything's going to necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>translate as well to for modern viewers, but for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part it works really well. And yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a fan of things like Strangers with Candy,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a fan of John Waters films and anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I highly recommend it. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really fun flick.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely deserves a larger audience. So even if you

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<v Speaker 3>listener want to be just one more person who has

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<v Speaker 3>said that they've seen Psycho Beach Party, I recommend that

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<v Speaker 3>you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, if you're fans in any of the actors

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<v Speaker 2>are creatives involved here, are definitely worth looking them up.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you just just want to want a surf movie,

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<v Speaker 2>you just want to go to a beach party, and

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<v Speaker 2>we do get a beach party. Late. We didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this much, but this is this whole scene

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<v Speaker 2>where there the surfers are going to do a virgin

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifice to some sort of a god, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>chick Lit ends up she's going to be the virgin sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 2>but then goes into Ann Bowman mode mid sacrifice, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, and Bowman's not a virgin. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>do this shuts the whole thing down.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's of course a dance off between Tina Barnes

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<v Speaker 3>and marvel Anne, which is really wonderful. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>all the tropes from a beach movie are in here,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, we skipped over pretty much all of the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot to enjoy and have unfold for you,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you've heard our description.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you know the spoiler, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not really depend on.

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<v Speaker 3>Knowing or not knowing this, I mean it is it

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<v Speaker 3>does feel actually like like I said, very Scooby Doo

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<v Speaker 3>and like, wait, who's the killer that person that we

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<v Speaker 3>saw once an hour ago?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it doesn't really factor in. I think. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the way they discover it is they see a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of the child who you used to live in

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<v Speaker 3>the house and they get out a felt tip pen

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<v Speaker 3>and draw the horn rimmed glasses. Yeah, fars I have

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<v Speaker 3>the photoco like it's him, so good, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Steph, Well, I've got I got a

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<v Speaker 2>two part question for you. First of all, on Rusty

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<v Speaker 2>Needles Record Club, have you ever discussed surf beach party music?

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<v Speaker 2>And either way what have you been talking about recently

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<v Speaker 2>on Rusty Needles Record Club and where can folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to it? Yes, we have discussed surf and beach

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<v Speaker 3>music in particular around let's see what have been around

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween of this last year. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 3>love about the nineteen sixties is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>trends happened around the same time, and so they all

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<v Speaker 3>kind of overlapped. Like you know, there was there was

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<v Speaker 3>a monster craze in the nineteen sixties at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time that there was a beach craze happening. So there

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of gosh, what's what's the word for it,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess synergies. And so we were covering a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the the monster craze, beach music and surf music

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<v Speaker 3>from the nineteen sixties this last October, and gosh, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a fun, fun genre. In fact, as long

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm talking about sixties movie monster surf music, I

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<v Speaker 3>will mention one of my favorite compilations of that era.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a three disc set called Halloween Nuggets Monster Sixties

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<v Speaker 3>A Go Go Oh. It's like every novelty sixties surf

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<v Speaker 3>monster song that's ever existed all in one collection. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah check that out. Halloween Nuggets, Monster Sixties

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<v Speaker 3>A go go have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I just looked this up. This this does

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<v Speaker 2>look amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really good and if you can't track that down.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very much inspired by these series of compilations

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<v Speaker 3>called Lux and Ivy's Favorites, which was just a fan

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<v Speaker 3>made compilation of all the music that Lux and Ivy

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<v Speaker 3>from the Cramps really enjoy. There are I think eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>volumes of it at this point. Another place you can

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<v Speaker 3>get really good just kind of like spooky out there,

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<v Speaker 3>like psychobilly and like surf music. So yeah, anyway, if

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<v Speaker 3>you like music, talk, that's what I do on Rusty

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<v Speaker 3>Needles Record Club every week. And what have we been

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<v Speaker 3>up to lately? To answer your other question, Robert, we

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<v Speaker 3>are currently doing a alphabetical trip through the record store

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<v Speaker 3>where each week we are going one letter deeper into

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<v Speaker 3>the alphabet and we're trading between our listeners, myself and

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<v Speaker 3>my co host and deciding which album is next. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's see. We did o Toboke Beaver this last week,

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible punk band from Japan. I believe next week

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing the Pete's Dragon soundtrack, which is utterly ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, and the ultimate goal. If you've never heard

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<v Speaker 3>my show before, Rusty Needles Record Club is a show

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<v Speaker 3>where I am going to listen to every single album

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<v Speaker 3>that has ever existed. I am greedy in my music

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<v Speaker 3>consumption and I must hear it all and then I

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<v Speaker 3>must talk about it with my friends, because that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy doing. So so far, so good, so far.

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<v Speaker 3>I am on track to listen to every album ever made.

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<v Speaker 3>We do one episode per week, every Friday, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is one album per episode, and it's a fun time

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<v Speaker 3>and ultimately we are very genre agnostic, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>about being a music fan. It's about loving all music

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<v Speaker 3>and wanting to hear everything that's ever been So that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's Rusty Needles Record Club. It's a fun series.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a noble suit and yeah, I encourage the listeners to,

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<v Speaker 2>if nothing else, check in and just take a look,

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<v Speaker 2>because whatever genre you're into, there's a very good chance

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have touched on it at one point or another.

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<v Speaker 3>Very true. We want it all, we'll cover it all

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Seth, thanks for coming on the show. Again and

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<v Speaker 2>chatting about movies. I'm sure we'll ask you back again

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