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Speaker 1: we had a chance to get to with him that

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Speaker 1: is starting to gain a lot of attention, well because

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Speaker 1: of the guy that's it's surrounding. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, but a big breaking story out of the

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Speaker 1: NFL tonight. And I don't think anybody is really surprised

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Speaker 1: at this, because well we had heard reports that maybe

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Speaker 1: he wasn't the favorite guy in the world. But now apparently,

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Speaker 1: according to an athletic report, Jalen Hurts. His teammates on

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Speaker 1: the Eagles not that happy with him. They say that

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Speaker 1: he kind of does his own thing, and he goes

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Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday, and they're really frustrated about it.

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Speaker 1: And now here are the Eagles now, so Le We're

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Speaker 1: frustrated with our quarterback and oh my goodness, what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do? I get it right, because if you

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Speaker 1: see Jalen Hurts, he has never given you the optic

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Speaker 1: that he is anything less than focused on his brand

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Speaker 1: great quarterback, so you kind of you kind of have

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Speaker 1: no choice. But he's he's always been. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: go back to his freshman year at Alabama. He's been

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Speaker 1: how people feel about him and what they think. And

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Speaker 1: now we can control things. So I get it. I

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Speaker 1: understand that. And on most teams, this would be one

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Speaker 1: We've been playing pretty well, but now this is gonna

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Speaker 1: rip us to shreds. Yeah, forget it. If anything, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna help them beat the Cowboys. Buy more on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: There is no team We've talked about this. There is

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Speaker 1: no team that thrives on dysfunction and controversy better than

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Speaker 1: the Eagles do. Nobody does. It is outstanding and it's

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whatever whatever controversy they have. The Eagles like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not a big deal, man, They swim in dysfunction. Now. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's great they're playing the Cowboys on Sunday because look,

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Speaker 1: That's every day for us. Yeah, but the Cowboys swim

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Speaker 1: in it and they play. Okay, the Eagle swim and

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Speaker 1: Like this is how it is. I have no concerns.

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Speaker 1: This is nothing for the Eagles. Off anything. They'll beat

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Speaker 3: So you know, things that might have been festering in

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Speaker 3: Make it flow for hurts on the offensive end, man,

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Speaker 3: how many guys have walked through there that have been

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Speaker 3: Coordinators, quarterback coaches, whatever, it's a different message. It's a

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Speaker 4: I guess I get a lot of attention when things

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I think that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: He says, I'm not surprised by anything. This is kind

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Speaker 1: does Jalen Hurts sound like he gives a crap at

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Speaker 1: all about what anybody thinks about him or this. He

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Speaker 3: There's only one sentence he could have given us that

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Speaker 1: He yeah, but it's funny because I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he does not give a crap at all. Right,

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Speaker 1: when you say, look, it's energy in nature the position.

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Speaker 1: I do my best, taking the things I can try

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Speaker 1: to improve all they said, Right, he doesn't give a crap.

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Speaker 1: And you know how, you know how you know this

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Speaker 1: because normally when a quarterback is faced and giving the story, Hey,

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Speaker 1: because they say you're freelancing and you're not following the

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Speaker 1: game plan. What is the report? What is it? What

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Speaker 1: know where this story came from. I have the respect

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Speaker 1: of my teammates. I'm not gonna address something like this.

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Speaker 1: This is not part of this. You're just trying to

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Speaker 1: bringing this up. I go all these things. What does

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Speaker 1: Jaylor Hurt say? Yeah, I'm not surprised by anything. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to deny it. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: tell yeah, I'm just gonna say, yeah, not surprised by it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was expecting him to go, Yeah, who'd you talk

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Speaker 1: to Gainwell, it was say quantity, say anything? What about

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Speaker 1: him at all. Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: only do I not care? Yeah, I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 1: and all this, none of that. Notice there was also

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Speaker 1: none of the Eagles players saying, wait a minute, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, Jalen's our guy. You know, he's not their

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Speaker 1: matter that sometimes leadership is overrated. Sometimes relationships are overrated.

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Speaker 1: You can win in dysfunction. Not everybody can, but some

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Speaker 1: teams can. And you know the Eagles can. They just

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl last year, and you know, Jalen

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Speaker 1: refuting it. I mean, this is this is just again

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Speaker 1: my hat's off to the Eagles who can win with

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Speaker 1: this kind of dysfunction. Man, Because for anybody who says, hey,

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Speaker 1: what were those Cowboys teams of the nineties, Like what

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Speaker 1: because you know, I I'm young and I have you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm only thirty years old, right, I don't remember that stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is what it was like every single day, and

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Speaker 1: they won multiple championships because they were just that talented

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Speaker 1: and when it came time to play, they played well

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Speaker 1: enough to win. Now that they shut everything out, not

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Speaker 1: that they just say and what we know, we put

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Speaker 1: all the crap aside. No, sometimes it creeps into the

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Speaker 1: was accused of doing last week. He and aj Brown

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Speaker 1: the end, No, it creeps into the game, but it

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Speaker 1: What do you want? There's always gonna be noise. We win.

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Speaker 1: Same thing here in Philadelphia. Man Aj Brown's tried to

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. We have that big quarterback story out of

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna be happy. But in the end,

432
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do this and and and the

433
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Speaker 1: league is gonna have to cut back from eighty two

434
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Speaker 1: and like I said, it's not gonna be so like

435
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: ten games is too much, but you gotta at least

436
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: get rid of all the back to backs. In these

437
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: six game and nine night situations. It just don't make sense, right.

438
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the the year can still be as long

439
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: as it is. Like the length of the year I

440
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: think is still okay. I mean we used to start

441
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: beginning in November and now we're starting, you know, towards

442
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Speaker 1: the end of October. But okay, I mean I'm fine

443
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Speaker 1: with that. So you're the length of time is okay.

444
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: But man, you really gotta do something because these this

445
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: is just it's not trending in a way where players

446
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: are ever gonna play more games. And for Adam Silver,

447
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: you know that if anything, they're gonna continue to play

448
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: less and less. We let ten teams in the playoffs.

449
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Teams no longer care if they get in the playoffs.

450
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: If I'm a one top six team or if I'm

451
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: in the playing round, doesn't matter anymore, right, it makes

452
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: no We let everybody in. I'm okay sending out these games.

453
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: In the end, we just have to be a five

454
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: hundred team and we're gonna make the playoffs at some

455
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: at some level, if we're a little bit over five hundred,

456
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: we're top six seed. Right, That's that's always going to

457
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: be at. This is not going to ever trend back

458
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: towards oh, players are gonna play more games. It's like

459
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: it's in Bajor League Baseball. Starting pitchers are not going

460
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 1: to pitch more. They're not gonna start you know, these

461
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 1: guys know seven eight innings again, that's never happening, right,

462
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: If anything, it's gonna be less. The NBA's got to

463
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: get in front of this and figure something else out.

464
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: And again, next three to five years we get to

465
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: the CBA, you get the things. They will cut it

466
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Speaker 1: back from eighty two to about seventy five.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be curious to see, you know, what what

468
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: the repercussions are for Steve Kerr. Obviously he's gonna stand

469
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Speaker 3: up for his guys. And when you're talking about where

470
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: you are with a lot of rosters, and particularly go

471
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Speaker 3: go what they have with the Warriors. You've got the

472
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: elder Statesman, right, Steph Curry in search of the new

473
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: shoe deal. You got Draymond Green when he's not fighting

474
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Speaker 3: with fans, he's a guy that's been in.

475
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Speaker 1: The league a long long time.

476
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Speaker 3: So you got guys on the upper end of the

477
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: age spectrum, and then you've got the other end on

478
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: the younger side, and guys that are trying to steal

479
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: some minutes. Just for giggles, I went through last year's

480
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: top one hundred scoring by average. Right, scoring average down

481
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: to about eleven point six points per game and requires

482
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: a little more finesse. But do you realize only five

483
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: guys out of your top one hundred scorers actually played

484
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Speaker 3: in every game last year, Five out of the top

485
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Speaker 3: one hundred five. And then you got guys that are

486
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Speaker 3: in the early you know, early to mid seventies. Couple

487
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: of guys that got to eighty games. But the point

488
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: being that every every game and thinking guys are gonna

489
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Speaker 3: be able to run every night. It's just fool hardy

490
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 3: on the base premise. Now, obviously with all the different

491
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: TV deals, you're serving a lot of different executive boards

492
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Speaker 3: and company profits.

493
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Speaker 1: Right. We've talked about it a lot, joked about it

494
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: yesterday with Steve Desager. He's like, yeah, the Lakers just

495
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: tipped off. Oh you know, they had that other game

496
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: in a half hour or forty minutes or whatever, that

497
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: other one will tip off on Peacock. It was like

498
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a twelve or something Pacific time when that game finally tipped.

499
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: But just that point, it's like you're trying to serve

500
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: all these different people that are at the table, are

501
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: at the proverbial trough, so something's got to give. You

502
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: got three years until you can opt out of the CBA,

503
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: and then there's one more year before it would expire altogether.

504
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: So you got to figure out how you keep feeding

505
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Speaker 1: the machine, keeping guys healthy. You know, the pace of

506
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: play and everything that Adam or i should say Rob

507
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: Manford wishes he could keep established and not get things

508
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: bogged down. Adam Silver on some level is wishing that

509
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: perhaps you could go back a little bit to the

510
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: days of the eight. Sure guys would be beaten and

511
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: bruised in a different way, but perhaps we wouldn't have

512
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: these same athletic use injuries that we see and some

513
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: of these, you know, calf injuries that are becoming an issue,

514
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: the groin injuries. I mean, the calf injury is this

515
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: year's torn labram. Remember when we had that epidemic in baseball?

516
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: What that guy have that torn libram?

517
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Speaker 6: Uh?

518
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, the labor cl.

519
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: And then it became you know, all of those. But

520
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: the NBA right now, you're missing an awful lot of

521
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: star power and we're fifteen games into the season.

522
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Speaker 1: Exit out bout a Fresco exit, Swallen Dome, Jason Smith,

523
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, I mean again, Dow Steve Kerr is the

524
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Speaker 1: face of this and so you know it's gonna get

525
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of run. He's gonna talk about it, but yeah,

526
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna get that. Get ready for that seventy five

527
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: game regular See.

528
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Speaker 3: That one tenured guy who who will tell you about anything,

529
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Speaker 3: And what are they gonna do find him?

530
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, guys made a lot of money.

531
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna look into him for tonight. You

532
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: rested five players tonight. They were all hurt after they

533
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: all play last He's gonna get five, There's no question

534
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: about it. They all got hurt all at the end

535
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: of the game last night. They all went out to

536
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: dinner and they all got hurt. Just like that. Hockey players.

537
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: You went after Jack Hughes getting hurt in Chicago.

538
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: Look at you. I mean they all went up, they

539
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: all got I mean, really, Steve Kurr, this is gonna

540
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: be a thing, man, It's it's gonna be a thing,

541
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: telling you we're it's starting now. It's gonna mushroom and

542
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: get bigger. And Adam Silver is gonna have to do

543
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: the thing he wants to release, and that has actually

544
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: get involved in a story and the guy's suddenly developed sciatica. Meanwhile,

545
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: speaking of injury, we get to Aaron Rodgers where a

546
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: story today the headline seems sort of benign, but you

547
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: look past it and I'll tell you right now, Uh,

548
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: this is a really big deal. Rogers is it's not

549
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: sure if he's gonna play this week against the Bears. Uh.

550
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: You know he got hurt last week and missed the

551
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: end of the game. And look, it didn't matter because

552
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph was able to come in and lead the

553
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Steelers on a couple of big drives up there without

554
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren two and and they won. So even though

555
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: he's got a fraction in his left wrist, he's still

556
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: not ruled out for this week. He still could play.

557
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: He's going to try to practice on Thursday. Now. The

558
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: timeline though, it's not clear. But the one thing that

559
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Rogers said is that to play against the Bears, he's

560
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: got to be able to protect himself. And you would think, okay, well,

561
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: that sounds right. He says, it's a safety thing, not

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: about can I play through pain. It's a safety thing.

563
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: I want to be protect myself from further injury. So okay,

564
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: you see this story and go, yeah, all right, I

565
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: get that. Oh no, no, this is a blinking red light.

566
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: Do not play Aaron Rodgers on Sunday, because I'll tell

567
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: you what, the last three years, it's a different Aaron Rodgers.

568
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Right the year he got hurt with the Jets, obviously

569
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: he carried the flag out and that was it. And

570
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: the last year when he came back, he was a

571
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: different quarterback. He is someone who is skittish in the pocket,

572
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: throwing the ball off his back foot, throwing it short,

573
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: and throwing the ball early. That's his biggest thing. Watch

574
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: that there's at least one down every one out of

575
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: every four downs the Steelers have the football, Aaron Rodgers

576
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: gives a play away by throwing the ball away early

577
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: before receivers turned around because the rush is coming at

578
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: him and he's not standing in for a hit anymore.

579
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: He's done with he's done getting hit. So what does

580
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: he do? He throws the football early. How many times

581
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: you have to watch dk Metcalf run his pattern and

582
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: be in the middle of the pattern and the ball

583
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: hit the ground in front of him or behind him

584
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: before he's even turned around. Right, It's a free down

585
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: that Rogers gives to the other team once out of

586
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: every four plays because he doesn't want to get hit.

587
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: He's not gonna stand in there. You can't throw it

588
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: downfield like he used to. But he no longer wants

589
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: to even standing to make a throw, So I'm just

590
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of it early. And that's a killer

591
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: for the Steelers offense. And we told you this is

592
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: how it was gonna go congratulations everybody you picked up

593
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: on the Aaron Rodgers stinks. We told you months ago.

594
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Middle of the season, that's what's gonna happen. That's why

595
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: we call the show ahead of the curve. But like

596
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: for the first few weeks of the season, Rogers will

597
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: be Finalll have his moments. But when the games start,

598
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: the season starts to get more of a grind and

599
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: he starts getting hit a lot, he is going to

600
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: really struggle. And we're gonna see Will Howard playing big

601
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: games in December and watching Rogers the last years. This

602
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: is what it's been with the with the Steelers the

603
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I'm throwing the ball early, I'm

604
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: not standing in the pass rush is getting to me.

605
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: And so if that's the case on a regular week

606
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: for Rogers, like a regular week, you see that out

607
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: of Rodgers, even games the Steelers have won where he's

608
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: throwing the football. Well, if that's a regular week for Rodgers,

609
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: what's it gonna be in a week where he says

610
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I gotta be able to protect myself, It's gonna be

611
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: even worse. Forget it, man, Mason, give me the Mason.

612
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: Rudolph experience on Sunday, because this is not gonna go well.

613
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Speaker 1: And all you have to do is pull Aaron Rodgers

614
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: from the game, and you're gonna have to talk about, oh,

615
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: his injury flared up, whatever it was. He's got to

616
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: you gotta cover up a whole bunch of stuff, Mason

617
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Rudolph experience. Man, Not that I'm a Mason Rudolph guy

618
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: for the long term, but he's shown that he's one

619
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: of the the best backups in the NFL. He could

620
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: come in and play okay for a couple of weeks,

621
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Speaker 1: but this, forget it, man. Rogers normally doesn't want to

622
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: stand in there for a throw if he's thinking about

623
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: protecting himself because that, yeah, forget it's gonna be really,

624
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: really ugly. Man. He should not play on Sunday.

625
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting at this point, he's going through

626
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: some of the advanced stats. The nerd I am you know,

627
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert has been blitzed one hundred and seventeen times.

628
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: By way of contrast, Aaron Rodgers immobile unable to push

629
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: the ball downfield has only been blitzed sixty one times.

630
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

631
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Meanwhile, Hurries currently Caleb Williams leads the NFL at

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: forty seven. Aaron Rodgers has been hurried only twenty times.

633
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: That ties him for fifteenth with Josh Allen and Daniel Jones.

634
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: At this point. He has been knocked down twenty one

635
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: times to this point, which is a full thirty seven

636
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven, right justin Herbert, Yeah, exactly, Pat mahomes Ad fifty,

637
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: go on down the line. In terms of getting rid

638
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: of the football, all you gotta do is get close

639
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: to him, you know. And it's not even a real

640
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: hard He's got to get close to it. I'm throwing

641
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: the football. Wow, dude, you threw that really long, you know,

642
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: or he'll throw it long, but noem my favorite when

643
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: he throws behind the receiver, when it's like what are

644
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: you doing? But like he'll throw it long with throw

645
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Speaker 1: it over somebody's head within the first ten yards of

646
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. It's not trending that way. It's not.

647
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Speaker 1: And when when when you saw the statement you read

648
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Speaker 1: the statement earlier tonight about the glowing things that Mike

649
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Speaker 1: Tomlin had to say about Will Howard. That's gonna be

650
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Speaker 1: another big preseason Bowl prediction we made that Will Howard's

651
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Speaker 1: gonna be playing big games. We're on We're We're on

652
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Speaker 1: a bold prediction preseason heater on this show man, We're

653
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Speaker 1: on a heater. I'll tell you Will Howard playing big

654
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: games in December sounds like it could happen. Sounds like

655
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's excited about Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one came out of the press conference. He

657
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Speaker 3: was asked about Will Howard and had his going we'll see,

658
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Speaker 3: We'll see where the week goes. Will Howard's been with

659
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Speaker 3: us the whole time, and so he's a sharp guy.

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Speaker 3: I like the general trajectory of his work. Certainly in

661
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Speaker 3: the position that he's in. He doesn't get a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of quote Steelers reps.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Mike, Mike Tomlins had himself a week

665
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Speaker 3: man that that quote he had it was all of.

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Speaker 1: Like six seconds down.

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Speaker 3: Uh with the Jalen Ramsey and uh Jamar Chase, I

668
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Speaker 3: have no message. If someone spits in your face, would

669
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Speaker 3: comes natural. Yeah, I'll tell you, Baud, watch out for this.

670
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Speaker 3: The decline of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it the last couple of weeks, and and

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Speaker 1: you're stuck right now if you're the Steelers, right because

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Speaker 1: you're okay, well we're we're we can still enjoy a

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Speaker 1: season where we win the division, maybe right because we're

675
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Speaker 1: on the top. Even though we stink and we're no good,

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Speaker 1: We're still lead the division by a game. Is that

677
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Speaker 1: gonna still continue for us? But you're stuck and and

678
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want Aaron Rodgers to end his

679
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Speaker 1: career like Russell Wilson's going to because the Giants aren't

680
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: putting him back out on the field. They jumped him

681
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: right to Jameis Winston last week. That's how much that's

682
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Speaker 1: feel about him. I don't want two.

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Speaker 3: And a half point favorites in this one, Jason forty

684
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Speaker 3: five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Does Aaron Rodgers still own well, you know he wants

686
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Speaker 1: to bless. Anytime you play against a team you're the

687
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Speaker 1: owner of, you kind of want to have a good

688
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: showing again. You want to talk about the smile and chess,

689
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: your cat grin and wide eyes made Aaron Rodgers talking

690
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: about the Bears and love of the history and the

691
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: rivalry and all that stuff, and someone should just raise

692
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Speaker 1: their hand. It was no rivalry you guys want every

693
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Speaker 1: damn year. I mean, it would feel wrong for him

694
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Speaker 1: to finish his career like Russell Wilson, which is going

695
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Speaker 1: to be in a big puffy parka on the sideline

696
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Speaker 1: with his hand warmers. But that's what canos or something now,

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00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you gotta fight. He's got a lot

698
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: of free time now. I have to worry about pesky

699
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: things like the playbook. He's fine, he doesn't have to

700
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Speaker 1: worry about that now. But I feel that could be

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Rogers Man really could.

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Speaker 3: Hey, why wasn't he part of the group that went

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Speaker 3: to Raw the other night? Fight with Dirty Dom?

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Speaker 1: Where the hell is ross? You should have stepped in

705
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Speaker 1: front of Cam Scataboos who doesn't get knocked over? And

706
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: he made he hurts his ankle even more. You got

707
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: to be the guy who step in front of that Russ.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're paying you to do. I do like,

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Speaker 1: and I'm doing the so very liberally. The interpretation of

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Speaker 1: camp Scattaboy more or.

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Speaker 3: Less said kiss my ass to everybody that criticized it.

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Speaker 1: So I got you, Cam, I got you exit out

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Speaker 1: a bout a fresca exit swollen dub, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon,

714
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Speaker 1: we got more NFL on the way. We are celebrating

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Speaker 1: the biggest story of the day the best way we

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Speaker 1: know how. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 1: ending tonight the best way we know how, as we

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Speaker 1: celebrate the biggest NFL story of the day, Shadoor Sanders

724
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Speaker 1: will make his NFL debut as a starter for the

725
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Speaker 1: Browns on Sunday. Dylan Gabriel in concussion protocol. So now

726
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Speaker 1: we have Shador Sanders and there is no softer start

727
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Speaker 1: than the Raiders. So we are three fifths of the

728
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Speaker 1: way to my big bull prediction. I said, five, guys,

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Speaker 1: we'll start a quarterback for the Browns this year. Even

730
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: gave you the order. Now things get dicey after this,

731
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Speaker 1: but said it was Flaco to Gabriel to Sanders. Now

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Speaker 1: things get a little weird, But okay, we gave you

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Speaker 1: the order. Three fifths of the way here Week twelve,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good. Now we're gonna sweat it out

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, because you're gonna get that fifth guy.

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Speaker 1: I'll start like week seventeen, where hey, last game, guys

737
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Speaker 1: are dinged up. We don't care. We're not ruining our

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Speaker 1: draft position. We'll start somebody who's on the roster. Now

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Speaker 1: we signed him two days before Christmas. He's gonna start

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Speaker 1: our final game. But we'll get to five. Mike Carmon,

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Speaker 1: I feel great about this.

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Speaker 3: What's weird is if you go on any of the

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Speaker 3: depth charts as they currently stand, all you got.

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Speaker 1: Are those two guys. Yeah, that's it's it.

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00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: So now it's it giant question mark right, it's healed

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Speaker 3: underpants gnomes from South Park, Step one, still underpants, step two,

747
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: question mark, step three profit Right now, we're just waiting

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Speaker 3: for quarterbacks four and five to show themselves.

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Speaker 1: So to celebrate this, we're gonna play the forty two

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks game, because Senor Sanders will be the forty second

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: quarterback to start for the Browns since they came back

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00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: into the league in nineteen ninety nine. So here's the game.

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Speaker 1: I give you a quarterback. You tell me if he

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Speaker 1: started a game for the Browns sometime in the last

755
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Speaker 1: twenty six years. Playing as myself, Mike harmon Alex Tischer

756
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: lead to lap, who's in for Justin Frossburg? Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's do it. Okay, okay. Did Jimmy Clawson

758
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Speaker 1: ever start a game for the Browns? Fighting? Yeah? Yes, okay, shirt,

759
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: local guy, Okay, a local boy, local boy. Uh well,

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Speaker 1: ty shirt?

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00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: What do you think I'm gonna say?

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00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: All right, aso schmacking looty.

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Speaker 1: Former fighting Irish quarterback Jimmy Clawson did, in fact not

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Speaker 1: started for the Cleveland Browns. Ravens. What else? No, Panthers?

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Speaker 1: Was a bear? Of course? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bears. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that was his three he was. He's only

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Speaker 1: a league for Yeah, he was only the league for

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Speaker 1: a few years. All right, Well traveled in a short

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Speaker 1: amount of time. Case Keenum did Case Keenum start a

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Speaker 1: game for the Browns?

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Speaker 2: Come on, Jason, of course.

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Speaker 1: Okay, of course, of course, of course, of course, yes,

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Speaker 1: you're the captain. Of course, of course you're the captain. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: yes he did, all right, lead it up. Yes, I'm

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00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty sure Case Keenum did in fact start a game

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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. Very nice, very nice. He started

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Speaker 1: two games in twenty twenty one. He actually went two

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Speaker 1: to zero in those games. How about that that you

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00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: did stop? You did not stop? Yes, no, you know

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00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: you did not? You did it?

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did Chris Wanke ever start a game wank for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Chris Wank who came into the league as

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Speaker 1: a thirty year old rookie. Did Chris Wank ever start

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Speaker 1: a game for the Browns?

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Speaker 3: Chris Wanky, who gets a lot of run right now

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Speaker 3: because of the age.

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Speaker 1: Of old time shuck mm hmm. I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't even remember who he did.

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Speaker 6: Play for.

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Speaker 1: Carolina for sure.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Oh yeah, I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 1: I want to say Wanky won his first start for

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Speaker 1: Carolina and then they lost fifteen in a row to

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Speaker 1: end the season. I want to say that was that

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Speaker 1: was Chris Wanky his first year. I really think that happened,

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Speaker 1: all right, Tysher, What do you think, oh man, Chris Wanky,

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Speaker 1: Chris Wanky, Chris, You've got to I'm gonna say yes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Wanky the final game of his NFL career, he

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Speaker 1: started against the Browns. Ever started for the Browns. Chris

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Speaker 1: Wankey did not.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm obsessed with the game Star eleven touchdowns, nineteen interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not only fourteen record one in fourteen Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they lost. I think they lost their leg

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Speaker 1: and he missed a couple of games. I think they

807
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Speaker 1: lost their last fifteen. They were one and oh and

808
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Speaker 1: then they lost fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. He averaged thirty six pass attempts at game.

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Speaker 3: Did broad Jack showed up?

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Speaker 1: Did broadcaster dan Orlovsky ever start a game for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns? I don't think so. Okay, tight shirt dan Orlovsky.

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Speaker 2: Sorry Mike, but he absolutely did.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean.

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Speaker 1: I I can only think of him as a lion.

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Speaker 5: Uh what who else did he play for?

817
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Speaker 1: As rich?

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Speaker 5: I will say, Yeah, I can, I can, I can

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Speaker 5: picture it.

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Speaker 1: You see, you can see Dan Rolovski. Dani Rolowski played

821
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Speaker 1: for one, two, three four teams in his NFL career,

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Speaker 1: including one team twice, and one of them was, in

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Speaker 1: fact not the Cleveland There are for them this year,

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Speaker 1: there is your forty two quarterbacks game. Had a great game.

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: I like that. Hey. The best part is if we

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Speaker 1: want to, we can play it tomorrow the next night.

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Speaker 1: We got lots of guys that gous a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys shah, No, you pulled up some legends for sure.

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Speaker 1: From Mike, I'm chasing my buddy Ben Mallins, Next Fox

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Speaker 1: nick yew