1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: hope all of you are ready for the weekend and 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to hanging out with me as we roll 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: into the weekend with three fun hours. Buck in New 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: York City celebrating his dad's birthday. Happy birthday to Papa Sexton. Also, 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: I meant to say producer Ali's birthday was yesterday and 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention it on the show. So birthdays 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: abound everywhere, and we hope you guys are ready to 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: have some fun with us. Trump has hopped onto Air 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Force one and is now on his way to Scotland 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: to visit several of his properties over there, predominantly golf courses. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: He addressed the media as he left the White House 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: and made a lot of news after yesterday's show. He 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: also toured the site of the FED construction that they 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: are spending a couple of billion dollars three billion dollars 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: actually on, and met with Jerome Powell face to face, 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: where he made the case that they needed to lower 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the interest rates, which by the way, Trump is correct about. 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: We will dive into all of that, but we begin 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: with something that we told you early this week, and 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I didn't hear very many other people out there saying it. 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: But when a lot of people were saying, Oh Obama's 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: going to be arrested, Oh He's going to be purp walked, 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: we got the twenty sixteen intelligence briefings that prove Obama 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: committed a crime. I told you, Look the Supreme Court 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: ruling that said Trump had the power as president to 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: act as he did in twenty twenty and could not 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: be charged criminally as a result those expansive presidential powers. 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court held six to three in Trump's favor. 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: We told you that that ruling was likely to come. 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: It now has come. And guess what. It applies to 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. It applies to Barack Obama, It applies to 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: George W. Bush, It applies to Donald Trump, any living president, 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: any current president, any future president. And Trump was actually 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: asked about that, given the revelations from Tulci Gabbard. He said, Hey, look, 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Obama owes me big because he's probably protected by the 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: same ruling. Let me play that cut. Trump just said 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: this a little bit ago. 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Listen, how do you think that the Supreme Court ruling 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: that bennettited you on presidential immunity would apply to former 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: President Barack Obama and what you're accusing him of doing. 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: It probably helps him a lot, probably helps him a 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: lot of the immunity ruling, but it doesn't help the 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: people around. 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Him at all. 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: But it probably helps them a lot. 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: He's done criminal acts, there's no question about it. But 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: he has immunity and. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: It probably helps them. 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Alig he owes me a big. Obama owes me big. 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: Obama owes me big. That is Trump talking about the 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: situation there where Obama's now protected, likely by the larger 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: ruling that's the Supreme Court made on presidential privilege. And 54 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: we told you back when this ruling came down, you 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: may not like it at some point in the future. 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: It reminds me of Mitch McConnell when they changed the 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: filibuster rules for the Supreme Court, saying, hey, you may 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: not like the results, and it may happen sooner than 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: you think. There you go the benefit sometimes of precedent 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: set by the Supreme Court. You think, oh, this is great, 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and then there's another situation that comes down the road 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: and the president is applied evenly, whether Democrat or Republican 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: or frankly Independent or Whig or Tory or whatever future 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: parties may exist in the years, decades, hundreds of years 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: into the future. In the United States, the Supreme Court 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: ruling will apply to every president when it comes to 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the president having the powers to exercise the prerogative of 68 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: the presidency without worrying about being charged with criminal related 69 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: incidents going forward. And so I would say in general, 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: this week, if you look at the entirety of the week, 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: has largely been characterized by revelations relating to the twenty 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: sixteen intelligence communities attempt to create the Russia Gate fervor 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: and ongoing discussion surrounding the Epstein files and what has 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: been uncovered there. This morning, as part of my prep, 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: as I always do, I read the New York Times. 76 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: There is a huge, multi thousand word piece in the 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: New York Times that goes into the review of all 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of the Epstein files by the Department of Justice under 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Trump and the fact that frankly, they haven't been able 80 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: to find anything, and about how frustrated that made Pambondi 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: and Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, who desperately wanted to 82 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: find people that they could charge based on the information 83 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that was inside of those files, and according to that 84 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: New York Times report, there just isn't anything there. Doesn't 85 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: mean that there might not have been in the past. 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of people out there believe that these files 87 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: should be released. 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 5: Again. 89 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Their challenges because some of these people are victims. But 90 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I suspect that they're going to try to release everything 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: that they can, and there's just not going to be 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: much there. Julane Maxwell interviewed yesterday by the Deputy ag 93 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: to see if she knew anything else. One thing that 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I think I have not done a good job talking 95 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: with you guys about from the Epstein perspective is, remember 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: that there were hundreds of millions of dollars paid out 97 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: to the alleged Epstein victims by his estate, by all 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: these other different large investment banks that also had interactions 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: and dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. In other words, people say, well, 100 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: what happened to all the victims, Well, a lot of 101 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: those victims came forward, raised their hand, remained anonymous, but said, hey, 102 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: we are a part of this class action lawsuit alleging 103 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: that we were mistreated by Jeffrey Epstein and Julaane Maxwell 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and many of those women they got paid hundreds of 105 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: millions of dollars by Epstein's estate. It doesn't get talked 106 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: about very much, but there were hundreds of millions of 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: dollars paid out to those victims of Epstein and Julaane Maxwell. 108 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: And I do think that that has kind of slid 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: under the radar and it hasn't gotten that much attention. 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: But people said, well, what happened to all these victims. 111 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: A lot of them came forward and said, hey, this 112 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: was what was done to me, And we are filing 113 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit civilly seeking damages from Jeffrey Epstein's 114 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: estate in the wake of his death and the estate 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: team in New York. Maybe you can look out and 116 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: see if there's a full dollar value, but I know 117 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: they paid out hundreds of millions of dollars in claims 118 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: against individuals who purport that they were mistreated. So again, 119 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: two different scandals to me, and I asked this question. 120 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I asked you guys earlier this week, Hey, which do 121 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: you think is the bigger story, Epstein or the Epstein 122 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: fallout or Russia Gate? And overwhelmingly you guys said Russia Gate. 123 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: And also I gave a third option in that poll, 124 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: and the third option was I don't care about any 125 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: of this, just get my costs down. In other words, 126 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm just focused on the economy, and it actually outrated 127 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: the Epstein drama as well. In other words, the majority 128 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: of you said Russia Gate's a really, really big story. 129 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: That was the winner of the poll. Second place was 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't care about any of this, just get my 131 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: costs down, and then third was Epstein. But I would 132 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: say we basically have dueling controversies, for lack of a 133 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: better way to describe it, with the Russia Gate, which 134 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: I believe is actually a huge story, the Russia Gate hoax, 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: and then also the fallout of Epstein, all taking place simultaneously, 136 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: and of course Democrats are saying, well, this is just 137 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Trump's desire to distract from the Epstein related cases. But 138 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I actually don't think that's true. I think that what 139 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: happened with Russia has been an obsession of Trump's for 140 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: a long time, And in particular, I wanted to play 141 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: some of this because these are flashbacks, and I know 142 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: some of you remember it, but remember what happened the 143 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: first time Trump met with Putin and what the reaction 144 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: was as the media had bought into the idea that 145 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Trump was a Manchurian candidate. I want to play a 146 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: couple of these cuts. Here's cut seven, Chris Cuomo back 147 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: when he was still on CNN screaming about President Trump 148 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: and the Russia hoax to his audience. This was in 149 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Some of you will remember it. This is 150 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: what Trump one point zero was dealing with all lies. 151 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: Cut seven. 152 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 6: The world witnessed to betrayal the likes of which we've 153 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 6: never seen. America's president sided with its enemy. Today, shack 154 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 6: has turned to a national shunning as America finds unity 155 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 6: in President Trump's perfidy. It was the simplest of all 156 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 6: questions regarding Russia's attacks on our democracy. 157 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 5: Did it happen? 158 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 7: So? 159 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I have great confidence in my intelligence people, But I 160 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: powerful in his denial. 162 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 6: Today, that was the president of the United States answer, 163 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 6: a kick in the groin to his counterintelligence men and women, 164 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: to his country, and most to the truth. With the 165 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: world watching, the leader of the free world sided with 166 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 6: the man who directly ordered a sophisticated attack on America's 167 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 6: electoral system. End of discussion. That's what happened. Russia did 168 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 6: it all. 169 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: That's false. And remember CNN cut away from Tulci Gabbard 170 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: when she was laying out the fact that the intelligence 171 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: agencies manufactured this great Russia hoax as a way to 172 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: delegitimize the Trump presidency. They're still not allowing their audience 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: to understand what actually happened. Again, this is another flashback. 174 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: I think it's important to remember the unbelievable historyonics that 175 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: were at play here. 176 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: Cut eight. 177 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said it was. 178 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 8: The most tragic day in the history of the presidency 179 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 8: when Trump said, Hey, I'm not really convinced that Russia 180 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 8: was rigging our election. 181 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 5: Cut eight. 182 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 9: This is probably the most tragic day in the history 183 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 9: of the presidency. 184 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: So what do we do now? 185 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: I mean, what is the rule book for when a 186 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 6: president betrays his own cory and sides with an enemy. 187 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 9: So I think it's up to the American people to 188 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 9: make clear that we will not tolerate a president who 189 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 9: does not defend the United States of America. Probably the 190 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 9: worst cyber attack against the United States to undermine our 191 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 9: election system. These are bad people. 192 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: They're bad guys. 193 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 9: They're the enemy, they're the adversary. 194 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Okay, the most tragic day in the history of the presidency, 195 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Leanne Panetta, remember a thing called Ford's Theater. John Wilkes 196 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Booth shooting Abraham Lincoln in the back of the head 197 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: feels like a pretty tragic day for the presidency. 198 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: Fdr dies in office in. 199 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: The middle of World War Two, near the end of 200 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: World War two, feels like a pretty tragic day in 201 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: the history of the presidency. There it's how about when 202 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the how about when the British burned down the White House? 203 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Feels like kind of a tragic day in the history 204 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: of the presidency. The degree of line that was built 205 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: around this Russian disc information campaign, Russia could have never 206 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: dreamed of having America's own institutions turn on America to 207 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: the degree that it did to try to tear down 208 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so I don't blame Trump, who spent 209 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: four years basically screaming into the wind, there's nothing to this. 210 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I won, and they just can't figure out how Hillary lost. 211 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: And now, to her credit, Tulca Gabbert lays out in 212 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: a calculated fashion exactly what went on inside of the 213 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: intelligence agencies and demonstrates that this Russia hoax happened. Now 214 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: a lot of you out there are throwing up your 215 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: hands and saying, what's going to happen? That's the challenge. 216 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: And I think to his credit, Trump even acknowledged basically 217 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: nothing can happen to Obama. I think it's almost impossible 218 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: to charge him with anything. And I think it's also 219 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: very hard to charge others because the time has passed 220 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: to such an extent. 221 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 5: Now. I do think. 222 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: Leaks of these intelligence documents that the Washington Post in 223 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: the New York Times, among other among others used as 224 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: their method to win Pulitzer prizes, and see this idea 225 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: that this untruth was in fact a truth, I do 226 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,359 Speaker 1: think there should be consequences there, and at an absolute minimum, 227 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I think this is very significant because it's correcting the 228 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: historic record and making people slowly aware of exactly what 229 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: went on. I will take your calls. You guys can 230 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: react to all of this. We've got a ton as 231 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: we roll through the program. 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I do think 271 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the Russia Gate and the Epstein case. Again, we didn't 272 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: schedule any guests today. Buck is out until Monday. If 273 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: you guys want to weigh in, you want to ask 274 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: questions that you think are important on either of those issues, 275 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: we can dive into them. I'll do my best to 276 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: explain where we're headed. I give Trump tremendous credit as 277 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: he got ready to get on the plane to fly 278 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: to Scotland for basically say hey, Obama, owes me big 279 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: but understanding the implications of the Supreme Court presidential ruling. 280 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: And it is very funny because so many people out 281 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: there in left wing media said, this is what happens 282 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: when you have a dictator, this is how democracies die, 283 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: this is what fascism looks like. When the Supreme Court 284 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: came out and said, hey, you can't charge the president 285 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: with crimes for actions that are directly related to, in 286 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: their opinion, the presidential office, and we told this program, 287 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: we said, hey, this is going to apply for everybody. 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: And now if Obama were charged with a crime, the 289 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: same people who said this is how democracy dies, this 290 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: is what fascism looks like, would have to cover Obama 291 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: as his primary defense in any twenty sixteen charges, saying hey, 292 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: I did this within the province of my presidency, and 293 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 1: therefore I cannot be prosecuted criminally for what I did. 294 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: All of the people that told you that the Supreme 295 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Court had just laid down like a dog and let 296 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: Trump scratched their belly, all of them would have to 297 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: suddenly say, well, actually, you know, Obama is using the 298 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Trump precedent to keep himself from serious criminal charges potentially, 299 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: and that is what we told you on this program 300 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: would happen and how it would be applied. And I 301 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: really do give Trump credit because he could have said, Hey, 302 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: we're going to put Obama in handcuffs, and he could 303 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: have continued to build that idea up. And frankly, there's 304 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: lots of people out there in the media who will 305 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: tell you that, and we told you on the program, Hey, 306 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen because. 307 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 5: Of the legality. 308 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: So if you've got questions on Epstein, if you've got 309 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: questions on Russiagate, I know these are complicated cases. You 310 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: can weigh in, you can give us a talk back, 311 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: you can hop on the phone lines eight hundred and 312 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: two two eight two, and we will dive into those 313 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: as we roll into the Friday edition of the program. 314 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Also got a thought on, unfortunately the death of Malcolm 315 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Jamal Warner, Ozzy Osbourne, and also the untimely death yesterday 316 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: we talked about with Huole Cogan, and I've got some 317 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: ideas on why those people are all connected. 318 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: I'll talk about that a little bit more. 319 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: There's a home invasion reported every thirty seconds somewhere in 320 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: the country. 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And I do think, 339 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: as I'm reading and getting ready for the show today, 340 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: and I've looked at all the coverage going on this week, 341 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I definitely think that Democrats have pivoted and I don't 342 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: know if you guys have noticed this, But Democrats have 343 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: now pivoted from Hey, the big beautiful Bill gave too 344 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: much money to billionaires and you can't trust Trump on 345 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: the economy. As I am speaking to you right now 346 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: about twelve thirty on the East Coast, the stock market 347 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: is setting another record high today and so early on. 348 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: Remember back in April when they said, oh, Liberation Day, 349 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: the tariffs, they're going to be a disaster. The economy 350 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: is actually roaring. We are setting record highs almost on 351 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: a daily basis in the Dow Jones and in the 352 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: S and P five hundred. If you listen to us 353 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: back in April when all the panic happens surrounding the tariffs, 354 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: and you just held on to your stocks, this is 355 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Stocks are up nearly thirty percent since April. 356 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: If you had money sitting on the side and you 357 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: bought more, then you are sitting at the most money 358 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: that you've ever had in your four to h one k. 359 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Inflation has not gone up. There has not actually been 360 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: any kind of market increase. There hasn't been a rise 361 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: in what you're having to pay for goods outside of 362 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: normal inflation. And this is important because you'll hear a 363 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, prices are still going up. Yeah, sadly, 364 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: inflation is a reality, and we want to manage it 365 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: as best we can. If we can keep it around 366 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: two percent a year, that is a manageable aspect of inflation. 367 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: So prices by and large never go back. That is deflation, 368 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: which almost never occurs and actually represents an incredible danger 369 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: to the country. But we've got so much money coming 370 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: in on the economy that they have basically stopped completely 371 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: talking about the economy. And now Democrats, believe it or not, 372 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: are using Epstein to try to attack Trump. And I 373 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: just want to point out how incredibly dishonest that is 374 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: because Democrats had all the Epstein files for the last 375 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: four years and they did nothing with them. And now 376 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: they have decided that they're going to because they can't 377 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: attack him on the economy, because they can attack him 378 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: on the border, because they can't attack him on crime. 379 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: Remember Trump ran on the economy, border crime, and he 380 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: is delivered through the first six months on those levels, 381 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the likes of which we haven't seen in a very 382 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: long time. And if you were listening yesterday and we 383 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: had Bill O'Reilly on it. He said he talked to 384 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday. He felt like President Trump was frustrated 385 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: because he's delivering on all of his promises. And now 386 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Democrats have decided they're going to attack him on Epstein. 387 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: And they couldn't attack him on tariffs, they couldn't attack 388 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: him on the economy, they can't attack him on border 389 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: on crime. So now they're going back to the Epstein 390 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: playbook and it feels so incredibly calculated. 391 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: And so I want to point this out. We have 392 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: audio here. 393 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: This is Trump saying, Hey, we may give people out 394 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: there taxpayers a rebate because we're making so much money 395 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: from tariffs. This has cut six as Trump prepared to 396 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: leave for Scotland. 397 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: And ten facillions of dollars. 398 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 5: Do you think there's the possibility. 399 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: Of a rebate the American public in terms of all 400 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: of that money, we're thinking about that. 401 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: Actually, we have so much money coming in. 402 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: We're thinking about a little rebate. 403 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 5: But the big thing we want to do is pay 404 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: down debt. 405 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: But we're thinking about a rebate. That's a very good Choy. 406 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 4: Just made a lot of news. We're thinking about a 407 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: rebate because we have so much. 408 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: Money coming in from tariff that tariff that's a little 409 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: rebate for people of a certain income. 410 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Level might be very nice. 411 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: Again, Trump looking out for everybody. The economy is firing 412 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: on all cylinders. The trade deals are all coming together, 413 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: and so don't make a mistake about what they're trying 414 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: to do. Democrats are actually trying to focus on the 415 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Epstein situation. And by the way, I had the team 416 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: pull the data producer Ali pulled it. They paid out 417 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one million dollars to between one 418 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five and one hundred and fifty people 419 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: who alleged that they had been sexually abused by Epstein. 420 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: Average payout per victim around eight hundred thousand dollars, though 421 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: individual amounts could vary. On top of that, JP Morgan 422 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: Chase settled a class action lawsuit for two hundred and 423 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: ninety million, and Deutsche Bank settled one for seventy five million, 424 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: with potential payouts up to five million dollars per victim. 425 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: In those cases as well, these were often overlapping victims, 426 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: and again the exact terms that have been settled have 427 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: not been discussed. You know, the individuals have not been named. 428 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: But I do think this is a big part of 429 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: the Epstein story because people say, Okay, well what happened 430 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: to all the victims? If you believe you were a 431 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: victim of Jeffrey Epstein, you had an opportunity to come forward. 432 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: He's dead, so he can't go to prison. Julaane Maxwell 433 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: is already in prison for twenty years. Hundreds of millions 434 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: of dollars have been paid out to the individuals who 435 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: raised their hands and said I'm a victim. So I 436 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: understand a lot of people out there who were saying, well, 437 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: what about all the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. I don't 438 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: think the media has covered them as much because most 439 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: of them have wanted to stay private. They have not 440 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: wanted their names to be broadcast widely. But I bet 441 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot of you are surprised to hear that what 442 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: is that one hundred and twenty one million, two hundred 443 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: and ninety million, seventy five million. We're talking about over 444 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars in Jeffrey Epstein related dollars being 445 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: paid out to the victims nearly five hundred million dollars. 446 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Those are staggering sums of money, and again, they have 447 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: not gotten a lot of attention in the media because 448 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: most of the victims of Epstein have not been waving 449 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: their arms saying I want my name out in the public. 450 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Those people, to a large extent, want to go on 451 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: with their law. But again, according to these reports, between 452 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five and one hundred and fifty 453 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: people out there who said I was a victim of Epstein. 454 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: Why is that significant? Well, it does suggest that the 455 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: court system has actually tried to, in some way, both 456 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: criminally and civilly, deal with this situation. And I think 457 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: the frustration comes because this is what I didn't want 458 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: to happen with the Russia Gate situation. I don't want 459 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: people out there to be thinking, Oh, Obama's going to 460 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: get arrested, Oh Obama's going to get arrested. I'm trying 461 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: to be honest with you guys, And I give credit 462 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: to Trump for saying it on the tarmac as he 463 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: was going on his way to Scotland. Hey, be honest 464 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: with people. Don't overpromise and underdeliver. So one of the 465 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: number one ways that you can lose your job in 466 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: a hurry. It doesn't matter what you do if you 467 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: overpromise and you underdeliver. I think on the Epstein case, 468 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in media and there 469 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: are a lot of people in politics who came and 470 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: built a large audience by saying, hey, there's a huge 471 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: cover up going on, and then they built certainly Pambondi did, 472 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: she was a mess on this issue. You don't give 473 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: out the papers that say Epstein Files Phase one, which 474 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: is what they did a few months ago, to a 475 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of influencers, and not set the expectation that there 476 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: is a phase two. And so I think they overpromised 477 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: and now they're under delivering based on what the data 478 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: actually shows inside of the one hundred thousand documents. According 479 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: to what I was reading this morning, that is makes 480 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: up the Epstein files. Doesn't mean that you want people 481 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: to get away with crimes. Again, the civil cases, everybody 482 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: who said they were a victim of Epstein, everybody who 483 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: waved their arms and said, hey, I want to be 484 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: either compensated or I want this guy going to jail criminally. 485 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: Right, there's two different tracks. 486 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: They made almost five hundred million dollars in payments to 487 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: those people, and so if there were others who could 488 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: be charged, I think they would be charged. I think 489 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: they are struggling to find any evidence of that. 490 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 5: Now. 491 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: I told you guys to me, I would just release 492 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: all the files and just say to hell with it, 493 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: because I think that's the easiest thing that Trump administration 494 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: could do, just like they did with the MLK files, 495 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: RFK files JFK and what do we say. There's unlikely 496 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: to be major revelations in those files because if there 497 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: had been stuff in there that said, hey, you know 498 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: who actually killed JFK? Do you think they would have 499 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: been sitting in files inside of the FBI CIA relating 500 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: to the JFK assassination for decades and nobody leaked them, 501 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: nobody got them out there. If there are the proverbial 502 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: smoking gun evidence, I think it's likely been gone for 503 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: a very very long time. And I think the best 504 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: thing you could do if you're the Trump team now, 505 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: as I said, is just put that all out. I 506 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: know they tried, to their credit, tried to get through 507 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: the grand jury transcript transcripts were released. They wouldn't do it. 508 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: They went and met with Jelay Maxwell. We'll see what 509 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: she wants to say. She may testify under oath, but again, 510 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars in payments five hundred million dollars 511 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: in payments to everybody who says they were a victim 512 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein and came forward in civil penalties. Almost 513 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: no discussion by and large about that. That would suggest 514 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: that they told their stories and that there is not 515 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: anybody else to charge. Now, I understand it's frustrating when 516 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: you're told something and then when you're over promised and 517 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: under delivered. I actually think that's the primary story here, 518 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to miss that. This is 519 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: now the way that Democrats are attacking Trump. They're not 520 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: going after him on the economy by and large because 521 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: it's good getting better. They're not going after him on 522 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: the border because he shut it down and deportations are 523 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: popular with people who voted for him. They're not going 524 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: down going after him on crime because crime numbers are collapsing. 525 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of y'all realize this, because 526 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: it hasn't gotten that much attention, because good news tends 527 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: to not get as much attention when the media buying 528 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: large hates Trump. We may, and I stress may, because 529 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: it's the summer and it is when overall murders tend 530 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: to grow, right, summers is when, if you go look 531 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: at the data, the summer season is when the majority 532 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: of murders are going to happen. On a calendar basis. 533 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: They happen far more often in the summer. Kids are 534 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: out of school, there's way more people out and about 535 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: whether it's good you're not huddled up trying to avoid 536 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: freezing as you are in many parts of the country 537 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: during the winter. Summer is when violence peaks. If we 538 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: can keep that peak down, we may set a record 539 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: in the twenty first century for the fewest murders in 540 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: this country. That's the pace that we're on right now. Economy, 541 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: border crime, it's pretty incredible. All right, you guys can 542 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: weigh in. We haven't taken any calls yet. If you 543 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: think I'm missing something, eight hundred and two two eight 544 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: a two, load up the lines. 545 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 5: We will take your calls. 546 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I want to tell you about my 547 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: friends Ben and Corley. They are the husband and wife 548 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: that started Good Ranchers. They got four young kids and 549 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to feed their kids healthy American made, organic, 550 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: non preservative filled meats. They wanted to be able to 551 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: take care of their kids. 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Check them out today Good ranchers dot com 588 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: code Clay. 589 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with 590 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. Find 591 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 592 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are 593 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: loaded up with calls. Let me start unting through some 594 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: of them. But Eric from Milwaukee has a big question. 595 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: News Talk eleven thirty win. We love y'all up there. 596 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: What is Eric's question? 597 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 7: Cc Hey, Clay love the show. Want to challenge your 598 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 7: legal mind for a second. Does that immunity also include 599 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 7: treasonous acts where the person making those decisions is acting 600 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 7: against the best interests of the United States at the time. 601 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: It's a great question and understanding exactly where presidential powers extend. 602 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Here is the defense that Obama would have as Trump 603 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: was laying out and pointing it out, he would argue 604 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: that he believed he was acting in the best interests 605 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: of the country, and so you would have to prove 606 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: that in a situation like that, he knowingly was acting 607 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: against the best interests of the country, and that he 608 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: knew the information he was citing and relying on was 609 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: untrue as a part of that process. I just I 610 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: think that's almost an impossible standard to reach, which is 611 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: why I think Trump is right. And by the way, 612 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the right result. You shouldn't have I 613 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday, take it out of the politics of today. 614 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: I think personally, the decision to go to war in 615 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: Iraq over WMDs was the worst presidential decision of the 616 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: twenty first century. Now, some of you out there can 617 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: argue with me about that. I think Dick Cheney and 618 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: George W. Bush got that one billion percent wrong. I 619 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: think if you could go back in time and we 620 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: never went into Iraq and we never spent the trillions 621 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: of dollars and we never lost the thousands of lives, 622 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: that would be the right choice, particularly because Bush was manipulated, 623 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: I believe, by his intelligence agencies to believe that there 624 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which was not true. Okay, 625 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a bunch of your calls when 626 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: we come back, So if you're online, by the way, 627 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: stick there. Because I appreciate everybody weighing in, and we 628 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't have any guests Friday. We wanted to have open lines. 629 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Let you guys weigh in. But I don't think President, 630 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't think President George W. Bush should be charged 631 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: with crimes based on the decisions he made surrounding Iraq. 632 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: They were awful, they were wrong, but he was acting 633 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: in what he believed was the best interest of the country. 634 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes presidents are just wrong, just like I'm sometimes wrong, 635 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: just like you guys are sometimes wrong, and oftentimes it 636 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: seems to me when they are wrong, it's partly based 637 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: on intelligence agencies getting everything wrong and telling them information 638 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: that ends up not being correct, which is what I 639 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: think led to the disastrous war in Iraq, what I 640 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: believe is the worst decision made by any president in 641 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: the twenty first century. We'll be back more. Your call's next.