WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Stick or Pick?

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<v Speaker 2>And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome in, everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got almost the whole cash and crew ready for

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<v Speaker 6>He's just running late because he overslept. He doesn't over

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<v Speaker 6>sleep when it's nine o'clock and yeah, yeah, and when

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<v Speaker 6>it's good morning football, he doesn't show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Over sleeping at two.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy what happens. He's probably listening to this in

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<v Speaker 3>this car, yelling at the stereo.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you guys talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm stuck in traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like a guy that didn't realize he had to

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<v Speaker 1>show at two o'clock on thursdays. That way, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>check his emails. To be fair, I also didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that we had a show today. Really well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>got back for vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>True, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>First day back, I assumed like, oh, they did it

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. I was a deal. It was excellent. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Oregon, Oregon for a little over I guess

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<v Speaker 1>a week, and then had some days here back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth between those days. But very refreshing. If you've never

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<v Speaker 1>been to Oregon, please check that out. We were liening

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland. Love the people out there. Any cowboys fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there that were nice enough to to to wear

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys hats or whatever, point out the hat that I

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing. Shouts to them. Uh but yeah, do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Go do that. Go to mount Hood, Go see a mountain,

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<v Speaker 1>Go see a snow cap mountain. You ever do that?

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<v Speaker 1>You ever check that out? It's amazing. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>driving through we were driving to mountain We don't get

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<v Speaker 1>snow capped mountains around here, not in this America, in

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<v Speaker 1>the lanes and prairies. We're driving through the like to

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<v Speaker 1>mountain Hood, through mountains of trees. It was the most

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing I've ever seen, and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where gorgeous comes from, because it's like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dead serious, because of gorges, that's where that's where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like trees as far as the eye can

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<v Speaker 1>see it is taking up the skyline. How tall and gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>These mountains of trees are most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is coming from someone who's lived in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life. So uh yeah, who knew? Who knew America?

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<v Speaker 7>The beautiful victors you posted, I mean like literally looked

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<v Speaker 7>like the definition of serenity. Dude, like you you look

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<v Speaker 7>like your feet weren't even touching the ground. Oh man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>those pictures were spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. We went to the Goonies beach. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>truffle shuffle on the beach.

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<v Speaker 7>Video over your line, and I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Your line behind a paywall.

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<v Speaker 7>It's good, get out, get outside, get in nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't happen to It doesn't happen often often enough.

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<v Speaker 7>Nowadays we are so attached to devices and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>doing things on the home front, and we've just you know,

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<v Speaker 7>been blessed enough to be able to make our homes

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<v Speaker 7>so comfortable where it makes it kind of difficult to

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<v Speaker 7>want to leave sometimes, but it's good to get outside,

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<v Speaker 7>get outdoors, get barefoot and run running the grass or something.

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<v Speaker 1>A literal and certified touch grass moment. M h you

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<v Speaker 1>touch the grass, touching grass.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna run in the concrete parking garage across line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not the same.

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<v Speaker 6>First time I ever went to Portland, it was like

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<v Speaker 6>one of my first trips out of Texas when I

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<v Speaker 6>was in I was probably seventh eighth grade, and I

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<v Speaker 6>remember getting it was in the middle of July, so

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<v Speaker 6>Texas heat, humidity, got July, and got on the plane,

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<v Speaker 6>got to Portland after stopping in Arizona and in Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you go to you go to Portland, and

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<v Speaker 6>I remember getting off the plane, I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>not everywhere is one hundred and ten degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>In July, Like wait, what is this?

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<v Speaker 6>And I like, like the whole ride. I mean, I was,

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<v Speaker 6>like I said a middle schooler, a whole ride to

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<v Speaker 6>the hotel. I was just doing this in the breeze

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<v Speaker 6>with the window down in the back of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Car, like you like rolled in with the.

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<v Speaker 7>You know if you like that viral Jason Garrett means.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was doing that myself. No, it's it's spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can go out and touch grass, please do

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<v Speaker 1>that for your mental health. If not anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Good reminder.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Patrick Nosey Walker. Time for some news and notes.

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<v Speaker 6>Not a ton going, not a ton.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm forgive me. I'm trying to get the seats situated

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<v Speaker 7>because I've got this thing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We must have had a linebacker or two signed since.

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<v Speaker 7>No, No, it's a no for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not done yet.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not done yet. So that Kyle Yeomans has so

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<v Speaker 7>eloquently lobbed over to me, Cowboys have been pretty dry

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<v Speaker 7>on the transaction front.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously the most recent signing is going to be Jonathan Bullet,

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<v Speaker 7>defensive lineman. But outside of that, no linebacker addition. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's still still a glaring box that needs to be

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<v Speaker 7>checked off going into and for my money, also coming

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<v Speaker 7>out of the draft at this point, we're talking about that.

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<v Speaker 7>A little bit later, Donovan as Roku announced that he

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<v Speaker 7>will change his number to number six. So number six

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<v Speaker 7>goes from one Donovan to the other Donovan, right, so

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<v Speaker 7>number six also being the number that as Roku played

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<v Speaker 7>with at Boston College, so he gets back into his

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<v Speaker 7>number six. Donovan Wilson obviously still a free agent, he

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<v Speaker 7>was not brought back by the team. Cowboys signed Jalen

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<v Speaker 7>Thompson p J. Lock to to you know, solidify that

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<v Speaker 7>safety position along Sadelee Cookers. So outside of those couple

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<v Speaker 7>of things, I mean, it's been pretty dried. Cowboys did

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<v Speaker 7>have the league meetings in which Schottenheimer and both of

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<v Speaker 7>the Jones Is Jerry and Stevens spoke and one of

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<v Speaker 7>the more interesting things Number one goes to the point

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<v Speaker 7>of what Kyle was saying, which is Stephen Jones did

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<v Speaker 7>say that the Cowboys quote unquote are not done uh

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<v Speaker 7>in free agency. As they going to the draft, they're

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<v Speaker 7>really trying to check off that that big linebacker box

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<v Speaker 7>before they pretty big box, pretty big box, and they

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<v Speaker 7>want to see what, you know, what they can do

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<v Speaker 7>before then. There's some freegent names that have been thrown out.

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<v Speaker 7>Bron Shottenheimer specifically drew a circle around Bobby Wagner as

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<v Speaker 7>a guy. Obviously they spent time together with Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 7>I caught that big box.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you I had to just keep killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the middle of the defense. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these safeties have to play in the box.

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of it. That's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't attack the box. Always attacked the box.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, we'll see where they stand at this point

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<v Speaker 7>going forward. But as it stands, and I can tell you,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is something that we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 7>last episode, I can tell you that the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 7>made attempts at trying to bring in a linebacker, a

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<v Speaker 7>freegency linebacker outside of the unsuccessful bid for Nikobe. Dean

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<v Speaker 7>did not give up after that. There are some other

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<v Speaker 7>names that are in the mix, you know, ones in

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<v Speaker 7>you know the Southeast, you know, palm Trees and the like.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, takes two sides to make a deal.

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<v Speaker 7>So we'll see if the Cowboys can you know, strike

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<v Speaker 7>another blockbuster trade or trade of any effect, or if

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<v Speaker 7>they just simply go out and get a veteran linebacker.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm at the stage of the game where I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like, because you're so close to the draft, outside

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<v Speaker 7>of a blockbuster deal for a linebacker, if you sign

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<v Speaker 7>a veteran that doesn't preclude any someone like a Sunny

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<v Speaker 7>Styles or whatever the case may be, could you.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they need so many bodies, They need so many

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<v Speaker 4>guys at the linebacker position.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you waiting on multiple moves here? I mean, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not just saying sign a guy, right, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 6>trade and then draft a top one hundred linebacker and

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<v Speaker 6>then maybe sign another starting caliber linebacker or try and

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<v Speaker 6>find one out there, or maybe straight or draft two

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<v Speaker 6>guys and trade for another guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're adding three.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you kind of need three or four new members

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<v Speaker 6>of your linebacker to even field the team the right

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<v Speaker 6>way going into training, kid, I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>Feel like you have the luxury to go overkill at linebacker.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm on board with two of those options. So if

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<v Speaker 7>you want to trade for one, I'd still use one

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<v Speaker 7>of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Trade one, draft one, draft one.

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<v Speaker 7>But you gotta address edge. You gotta address edge. We

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<v Speaker 7>talked about it a lot. Rareshaun Gary was brought in,

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<v Speaker 7>but you need something in addition to that that. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't feel like that's the only thing that you can't

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<v Speaker 7>look and say, Okay, well that's going to be my

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<v Speaker 7>edge resolution there. Opposite is Roku, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 7>is coming off of laboram surgery. So yeah, no, you

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<v Speaker 7>have to address edge on day one is my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to address edge on day one. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I tend to disagree. I feel like Baine

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<v Speaker 1>is staring you in the face. I mean, I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>on Rocker, I'm already on Rutger.

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<v Speaker 8>You do.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you doing? A lovely, lovely boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on record that I want Baine, There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I don't think that that is it

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<v Speaker 1>is necessary to go day one with picking a an edge.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>It's tell me your your depth chart on your edge

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<v Speaker 5>right now, right now as it stands April knife as

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<v Speaker 5>rakku for Shuan Gary Laboram needs to improve off of

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<v Speaker 5>last year, h Gary?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? Then you have Marsha Neelan my goodness, excuse me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good, You're all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish we had Sam Williams.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I wish we had him now rest in peace

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<v Speaker 5>to yes, of course, absolutely my missect.

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<v Speaker 1>You you wish you had Rusty.

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<v Speaker 7>You wish you had something proving that you can sink

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<v Speaker 7>your teeth into when it comes to say Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't know, you don't, gosh, no, nothing is

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<v Speaker 1>solidified there. But I also, don't think your name that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't sink your teeth into.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have avoid at corner right now.

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<v Speaker 6>You haven't brought back Jadavian Clowney. You haven't brought back

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<v Speaker 6>that's fair, any of those guys.

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<v Speaker 7>You have avoided corner. However, you at least addressed that

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<v Speaker 7>in free agency. You at least when it got a

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<v Speaker 7>Kobe Durant. When you talk about addressing, let's assume, because

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<v Speaker 7>I see where you're going with the corner, let's assume I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's linebackerund corner.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those.

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<v Speaker 7>Revels asterisk because I'm going to keep the energy. If

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to put an asterisk on as rock, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to put it. Ask Ron Bland too. Are we

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<v Speaker 7>sure about the risk?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>But it could go either way. I guess what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>what I lean toward is just building in front to back.

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<v Speaker 6>This goes back to our march madness kind of. This

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<v Speaker 6>is what happened when we got to this point, because

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<v Speaker 6>it's those three positions has changed since nothing has changed,

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<v Speaker 6>And you're completely right in saying that. But the thought

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<v Speaker 6>process is corner. You don't don't have any healthy bodies.

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<v Speaker 6>You have capable bodies as long as they're healthy. But

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<v Speaker 6>you can't tell me they're healthy. Edge rusher, you you

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<v Speaker 6>have bodies, but they might not be capable bodies, or

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<v Speaker 6>at least they haven't shown in the past that they

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<v Speaker 6>can carry the entire weight of a pass rush.

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<v Speaker 4>Ability from a team white standpoint. And then linebackers, you

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<v Speaker 4>just need bodies. You don't have anybody there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got Shamar James being your number one linebacker at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're everybody saying, well.

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<v Speaker 6>What about Marist ed Rusher, what about Demo Hurt? I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have bodies there right at the moment.

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<v Speaker 7>Samar is the only one without an answers exactly so.

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<v Speaker 3>And even that's a fifth round pick from.

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<v Speaker 6>A year ago who sparing the line him, saw some

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<v Speaker 6>good things, saw some great things from Schamar, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think you'll see a step forward and they're really excited

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<v Speaker 6>about him. So all three of those positions, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>telling me the best player available at those position is

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<v Speaker 6>on the board at twelve or twenty, I'm taking any

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<v Speaker 6>of those.

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<v Speaker 7>So you without you would balking, you would triple ope

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<v Speaker 7>free agency signing or trade to acquire linebacker, and you

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<v Speaker 7>would still double dip with twelve and twenty at.

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<v Speaker 6>Linebacker, not at linebacker. I wouldn't double dip at twelve

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<v Speaker 6>and twenty. I would double dip in the draft. In

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<v Speaker 6>the draft, there are linebackers on Day three that I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think, Okay, I just want so you can qualify. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I would say, we're just talking. We're talking only about

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<v Speaker 7>twelve and twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm taking a linebacker and edge rusher in a corner

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<v Speaker 6>in the top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've got you got a third round pickback exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got three picks in the top one hundred. Those

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<v Speaker 6>are my three linebacker, corner, at rusher. Maybe not order, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>in what particular order. Then it depends, of course, that's

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<v Speaker 6>all boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But your priority at that point, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would say corner, edge linebacker.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say, ed which linebacker corner?

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<v Speaker 3>See but in I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would go linebacker, corner.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all fledged.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thought process for me here is if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sitting here right now and I'm at twelve, and let's

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<v Speaker 6>say it's best case scenario and you've got the top

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<v Speaker 6>edge rushers on the board, Let's say Bailey or Bang,

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<v Speaker 6>which is not happening. You're gonna have to trade up

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<v Speaker 6>to go get those guys. One of the guys, Isaiah

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<v Speaker 6>stand back. Welcome to the show, sir. Only fourteen minutes

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<v Speaker 6>and thirty seconds later.

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<v Speaker 3>Put a podcast in the middle of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you didn't look at your email.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Hey, listen, I schedule don't work like that a podcast. Listen.

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<v Speaker 7>I dragged my one legged.

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<v Speaker 3>He crooked. I was out there doing country.

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<v Speaker 5>I was out there doing country work, out there moving

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<v Speaker 5>rocks and boulders.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, setting up your bee high exactly? What exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>bees coming tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 6>Bee farmer? Isaiah stand back. Everybody welcome in here, trying

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<v Speaker 6>to earn them.

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<v Speaker 3>What's only saying you earned?

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<v Speaker 6>Honey, the hardaway baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you that intro.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the flight of the bumbleted exactly, turn it up,

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<v Speaker 5>turn it out. I'm definitely sung in a butt. Have

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<v Speaker 5>you listened to any of the show on your way in?

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<v Speaker 6>No, Okay, I want you to take a guess right now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>what our debate is currently It has to do with

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<v Speaker 6>the NFL draft, And no, it's not a trade. So

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<v Speaker 6>so what do you think we're talking about If we're

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the positional draft, Yeah, yeah, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 3>What position do you grab first? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>And then what would be the three spots that we'll

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<v Speaker 6>be talking about, d N, cornerback, linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>And now if you have in that order, is it

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<v Speaker 3>in that It depends on how it falls the way

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<v Speaker 3>that I see it going. I see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I see it being d N and linebacker interchangeable. But

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<v Speaker 5>what's your preference? My preference is one of those two

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<v Speaker 5>positions first, one of those two positions for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was running through a scenario.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's unrealistic to expect Bane or Bailey to

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<v Speaker 6>fall without something crazy happening that allows them to fall

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<v Speaker 6>right if they're at or if they're at twelve, I

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<v Speaker 6>would take an edge rusher first, So that would go

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<v Speaker 6>against my order of three. I still think corner is

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<v Speaker 6>still very much so up there because of the health

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<v Speaker 6>of the position, and I would still take an edge

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<v Speaker 6>rusher in that spot because you don't just find blue

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<v Speaker 6>chip ad rushers. You can find a starting caliber corner.

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<v Speaker 6>That's fine, you can do that, especially at twenty. I

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<v Speaker 6>still think you're going to have a starting caliber corner

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<v Speaker 6>at twenty, So I would take one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 6>If they fall, because that's unrealistic. I think it's more

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<v Speaker 6>likely you're going to see one of the top corners fall.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a question. I agree, who's your who's

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<v Speaker 1>your monkey?

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<v Speaker 3>Wrint? What is that? What is a monkey?

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<v Speaker 1>You have? Food fighters?

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<v Speaker 7>We all agree, we all have probably on medicine. Bro Well,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm onst seven mays right now, absolute seven medications right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Brother had that first post off yesterday and that that

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<v Speaker 7>scars gnarly down there. But yeah, I'm on seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>But nonetheless, we all agree edge linebacker, cornerback in any variation.

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<v Speaker 7>When I say who's your monkey wrench, I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 7>for example, a Caleb downs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if he happens to fall to twelve, you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>see what if he.

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<v Speaker 3>Falls to No, No, you're not going up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going up to give I'm sticking a pickt sticking.

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<v Speaker 5>As my mom used to tell me, stick it picking

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<v Speaker 5>and lick it. Your mom told you that absolutely my

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<v Speaker 5>whole my whole childhood, stick it picking and licked it

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<v Speaker 5>regards to whenever if I was getting on her nerves

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<v Speaker 5>by just stick it picking and lick it, that means

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<v Speaker 5>like gone by your business.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Washington's interesting I guess I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you? Can you ask me that question?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so who's your monkey wrench? Who would have to

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<v Speaker 7>begin falling that would have you deviate from those three

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<v Speaker 7>positions that you just talked about that we all agreed

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<v Speaker 7>that the Cowboys have a dire need and edge cornerback

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<v Speaker 7>and linebacker. What player would start to sniff around twelve

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<v Speaker 7>where you'd be like.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta go get them, gotta go get them.

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<v Speaker 6>There's three names, David Bailey, Okay, Sunny Styles, Caleb Downs.

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<v Speaker 6>If if those three names are at six, I would

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<v Speaker 6>get on the phone and just call and.

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<v Speaker 1>See if Caleb Downs is approaching nine.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it, and I understand wanting to stay and

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<v Speaker 6>take your twelve and twenty. But we've run through a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of simulations where you get wiped out at twelve

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<v Speaker 6>and you're sitting there and the best player on your

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<v Speaker 6>board that makes sense for you is Spencer Fano or

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<v Speaker 6>Roe freelan offensive tackles, so with.

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<v Speaker 3>That being set or one of the wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm I'm looking at that and saying, I want

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<v Speaker 6>to upgrade my defense right now.

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<v Speaker 3>What those are three guys that can do that right now?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the Cowboys and at ten, Manguia is still

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. Left tackle Miami MALANOA. MALANOA, Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, who is this player that I've not

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<v Speaker 6>heard of yet? Yeah, Francis Maligoa MALANOA.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, it's a silent g.

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<v Speaker 1>Not doing it. But if you're the Dallas Cowboys, are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing it? No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, if he falls to twelve, they would have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's going three to the Arizona Cardinals personally, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The infan I was already off the board at that

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<v Speaker 1>point too.

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<v Speaker 3>At ten. Maybe it depends.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, we've run through simulations where it's more likely

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<v Speaker 6>that a offensive tackles fall then some of the defenders fall. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>And that's where I'm saying, if you're Dallas and you

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<v Speaker 6>want to upgrade your defense right now with a bona

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<v Speaker 6>fide playmaker, any of those three names make it to six,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm at least talking it through because there's a there's

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<v Speaker 6>a scenario where you can trade and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 6>it on the Draft Show, where you trade twelve and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty two Cleveland and they pick up two first round

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<v Speaker 6>picks because they don't need a bona.

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<v Speaker 3>Fide six round pick.

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<v Speaker 6>But you pick up six and thirty nine, so you

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<v Speaker 6>still have a first, second, and third round pick. You

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<v Speaker 6>just don't pick twice in the first you get a

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<v Speaker 6>guy like Sunny Styles, Caleb Downs, or David Bailey at six,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you get a one of these one to

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<v Speaker 6>two cheeter grades in the middle of the back half

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<v Speaker 6>of the thirties and.

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<v Speaker 3>You end up doing something.

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<v Speaker 7>So let me put this out there for those that

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<v Speaker 7>may or may not know, we're talking about the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 7>possibly moving up or down on day one, or Day

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<v Speaker 7>two or day three.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the quote from Jerry Jones.

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<v Speaker 7>It's in an article that I wrote on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 7>dot com back and Jerry Jones effectively stated, quote unquote

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely the Cowboys will. We will entertain improving on an

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<v Speaker 7>end draft read on what gives us a better chance

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<v Speaker 7>to get another player.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 7>Now you can you know interpret that however you like.

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<v Speaker 7>Bottom line is the Cowboys are as we're entering the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>They're open for business to hear all conversations and possible scenarios,

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<v Speaker 7>and that does include possibly moving up. Now, put my

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<v Speaker 7>hat on take put it. Yeah, my hat on it

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<v Speaker 7>did Jimmy on. You would have to sell me on

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<v Speaker 7>trying to move up from twelve takes to six. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't have to marry you won't have to sell me

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<v Speaker 7>from moving up. You would have to sell me on

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<v Speaker 7>moving up from twelve to six, because that's that's not

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<v Speaker 7>an inexpensive venture. It's not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not. It's not. But scare money, don't make money.

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<v Speaker 3>And those are three. Those three damn, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>There's three players right there, three players right there that'll

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<v Speaker 6>immediately make you a better drawn Jay. Can you tell

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<v Speaker 6>me right now, based off of today, as we stand

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<v Speaker 6>on Thursday, April ninth, twenty twenty six, that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 6>defense is significantly and that's the key word here, better

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<v Speaker 6>than what they were last year?

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<v Speaker 3>Significantly. Yeah, I don't know exactly. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sitting and waiting for something to fall in

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<v Speaker 6>my lap. If that happens, great, That's why you need

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<v Speaker 6>both picks, right, I get it for reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are very little picks though you're still picking in

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<v Speaker 6>the top forty. But now you get to pick a

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<v Speaker 6>bona fide, no doubt safe playmaker that's gonna get you

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<v Speaker 6>the job done right now, and then you get another

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<v Speaker 6>shot at a starter at thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't think you do that at twelve and twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>You might at twelve, you might if one of those

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<v Speaker 6>guys falls mensword Lane falls Spencer Fano on the offensive side.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing is, I'm not looking at offense though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>of course I'm not trying to look at offense. You're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna get a good player at twelve, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>But your defensive guys that you feel like are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just looking at it may not be there at looking.

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<v Speaker 5>At the draft order, Yeah, and I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be in a really good position at twelve for who

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<v Speaker 5>any of those, Any of those think you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>your your linebacker, your d N or your your safety

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<v Speaker 5>of choice. I think I think you're gonna get that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at it. I mean, Las Vegas they're getting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>The Jets, who knows what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna probably can take RVL Reys.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Okay, Arizona they need offensive tackle at any offensive

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 5>lineman Tennessee needs or they need weapons. They've already add

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of stuff on defense already, I can't. They

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<v Speaker 5>might add more, but that's been their primary defensive night

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<v Speaker 5>a head coach the Giant, they actually actually a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>loaded team. But I would imagine they probably go O Line, Uh, Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 5>Little Jesus. They could take literally in Washington, could take

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<v Speaker 5>anything in Order, could take anything in Kansas City. I

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<v Speaker 5>would imagine it be specific. But then you start getting

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<v Speaker 5>down to Cincinnati, Miami. I mean, I don't see them

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<v Speaker 5>taking the guys that you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle, tell me who is for sure of the playmakers

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about, who is for sure off the

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<v Speaker 1>board at twelve with with absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Certain, without moving up, it would be Bailey styles downs

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<v Speaker 6>in Bang off the board. As long as nothing happens

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<v Speaker 6>between now and the draft, that's off the board. Those

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<v Speaker 6>those four are off the board. The guys that I

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<v Speaker 6>think could fall are Delaye the corner out of l

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 6>s U. Well, that's that's pretty much the only other

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 6>name there. I'd be interested.

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<v Speaker 5>Ve Vegas quarterback Tennessee's taking a running back most likely

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<v Speaker 5>if he's there.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe they might take David Bailey. He's a better

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<v Speaker 3>edge rush.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's Delane at twelve. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it'd be awesome? At twenty you can

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<v Speaker 1>either get your linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure or your edge. Yeah, yeah, yeah I think so.

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 6>Which Like, that's that's the risk you're taking if you

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<v Speaker 6>have the one name, but you feel like is possible

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 6>to fall is mansort of lane, You're you're taking a

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 6>risk sitting at twelve that Cincinnati who needs cornerback help

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 6>doesn't take him.

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<v Speaker 3>They take your mom McCoy instead. Right, he runs a

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<v Speaker 3>four to three eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe they feel better about him and the tape and

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<v Speaker 6>acl whatever it ends up being this guy shut.

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<v Speaker 3>Down Minsort of laying absolutely shut down.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, he's like who he's a dog like comparing

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<v Speaker 5>with somebody they're coming.

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<v Speaker 1>They put you on Mitchell right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I love that comparison. Let me

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 3>give you NFL, let me give you what I put

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft bank.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but anybody likes it type.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you going to get two really good players.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're gonna get two.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you're talking but this conversation is about

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<v Speaker 5>moving up from twenty to fifteen to go grab somebody

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 5>or something like that, then that's a different conversation. But

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we have the draft equity in order

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<v Speaker 5>to do that. But stick at twelve, We'll see. Okay,

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 5>so I can see them sticking at twelve and then

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 5>moving up from twenty. You know what I'm saying, to

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 5>go make sure that I don't know. See, I'm just saying,

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 5>that's a better conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>Because the thing is is, I think everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 7>understand and remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you're ready to go to break.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone needs to understand real quick that when you're talking

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 7>about these trade packages, you're not just only you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I only talking about twenty twenty six draft picks.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, let's go to break.

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<v Speaker 1>Call the Oregon the Oregon Draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Chris Beam is in the back of Kyle yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you used to play the Oregon Trail? No died

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<v Speaker 3>of dysentery?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you ever?

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I did? Beamer?

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Did the snake bite Beamer? Baemer got it?

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<v Speaker 3>I hate when that popped up Bedden by a snake.

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<v Speaker 7>No, man's showing age now facts?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What year did that come out? Oregon Trail?

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Elementary school?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 9>Me?

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking eighties? Really? PC old for my time?

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, floppy disc.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Bimer made a claim this morning. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to bring up on the show. He claims

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>he is younger than one Patrick No, s Walker.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I think that's true in what capacity? Well, let

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 7>me qualify in no capacity, But I just want to

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 7>I'm curious, and what capacity is.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of like age is a number?

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I'm forty five.

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh you got I got you by a couple of years. Okay,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 3>so he's a little bit older, old beam ones.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>How old are we being?

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Forty eighth?

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, that's three, not two.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 3>A couple of years, A few years. I because if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to make.

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<v Speaker 1>A he said, it's so common. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're want to so confidently make a bombastic claim

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 7>such as that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad thoughts you were older than I.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all. It's the great but it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you were twenty five.

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<v Speaker 7>It is the gree Oh no, I'm definitely not twenty five.

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<v Speaker 6>The original Oregon Trail came out December third of nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty four, eighty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, whoa, that's way, that's right. That game b one.

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<v Speaker 3>That game was all a way. The classic version came

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>out in eighty five, so that's probably was.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the original was seventy one, but the classic version

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 6>released for Apple two computers. Yeah, widely recognized version of

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 6>the game. That's what you guys were playing eighty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye. There you go and learned something new every day

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<v Speaker 3>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>The Apple two? Did I have?

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Is that the one with the clear No?

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<v Speaker 12>No, that's the Mac all the colors. Yeah, it was

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 12>fire that was got that. We got that in our

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 12>computer LABRAR We're like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>They're only like four we got a share, all right?

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<v Speaker 6>We Yeah, that is that's a subtle flick, subtle one.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 6>I want to continue this conversation, okay, the it will

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 6>be a conversation on draft night and Jerry Jones has

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 6>already alluded to that. Everybody's talked about it, trade up

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 6>versus trade down. We've talked about trading up, and I

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 6>know you got aren't wanting to do so, no I

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<v Speaker 6>I My whole argument is that there are six names

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 6>that I think can make your defense immediately better without

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 6>any sort of red flags and any sort of question marks.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 6>And those were the six that I talked about there

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 6>in Reese, Bailey, Styles, Delaine, Downs and Bank. Those six names,

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<v Speaker 6>let me ask you this question. Five of them are

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 6>probably gone and you're waiting on one.

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<v Speaker 5>Leading into this topic, how many defensive players do you

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<v Speaker 5>think going to top twenty?

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, I'll go buy.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Let's just go by the We did a draft show

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 6>mock draft last week that there was those six names, Pheneman, McCoy, Hood,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 6>mesador In Terrell.

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<v Speaker 1>How many is that that is?

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I just counted through. I believe that's ten, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think eleven. I think eleven going to top twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten Yeah, yeah, eleven, So eleven going to top twenty.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>How many.

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<v Speaker 5>Difference makers Year one difference makers? Do you think there

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 5>are a defense side of bond Issue's draft four?

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>He just said five, six, And I would throw.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 6>I would throw a Key Mesodor in there too. I

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 6>think he would be like my six and a half.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 6>He's not as good as those guys.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>He's not in that top six day one, but I

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>bet you got a pot. Yeah, yeah, he could possibly

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 3>be there.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 6>That's that's where I'm at, because the other guys have

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 6>question I have question marks with McCoy. It's the health hood,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 6>it's the technique, Mesador, it's it's partially the technique, partially

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 6>the age he played six years in college to real

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 6>it's the technique and maybe the processing.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Ability all of them.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 6>I have question marks on not saying that the previous

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 6>six guys are perfect process or prospects, but I have

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 6>less questions in my evaluation of them than I do.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 5>The other How many guys would you take from Ohio

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 5>State and just in general, almost all of them?

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 3>And the top twenty with your twelve and twenty pick, Yeah.

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 6>Reese Styles, I would throw Carnell Tay in there because

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 6>I think he's a badass.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Downs is everybody I'm missing? It's probably that's probably.

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 5>It sounds like this, But as far as those picks

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 5>he's talking about, yeah, four in the top twenty, where.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Would you go, yeah, those three three or three minus tap?

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Styles Styles will be first. All right, sorry, Styles or Downs.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 5>I'll take either one of those guys first. Yeah, I

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 5>like both of them.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Sure, Reese is cool, He's he's his position value.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes, based upon the new scheme, he's he's kind of

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 5>sneaky when you turn on his film.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>If you like CJ. Allen over Styles, what is the

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>reason behind that.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I like the Roga's cat too.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I like to subjective leader.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I like Rodriguez.

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't say it today in a box. I can

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>say it.

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I've been through a lot.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 7>I could say it, go ahead, go dogs, But no,

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<v Speaker 7>I think objectively speaking, all told Sonny Styles is a

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<v Speaker 7>better linebacker than c. J.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Allen.

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<v Speaker 7>I do have him great a highre on my board.

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 7>That again, this is just objectively speaking. The science is

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 7>the science. I don't think that he beats out CJ.

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<v Speaker 7>In every single category. I think you know, athleticism absolutely, Uh.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 7>Football acumen on Sonny Styles is outrageous, But I would

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 7>argue that c. J. Allen's football acumen is slightly higher

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 7>because we're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About a guy both. Yeah, but we're talking they're both

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna wear a guy.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 7>J Allen. We're talking about a guy who called the

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 7>plays exactly every snap for Kirby Smart and that defense.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 7>And Jeorge I would.

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Argue verse six five to forty four.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, position of flex athleticism, athleticism, not even just teleticism flex.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, fair enough, fair enough because stop I mean Alan,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 5>no disrespect. I haven't seen his film or anything like that. Yah,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 5>that's y'all think excellent.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking at a size he could play one position. Yeah,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.959
<v Speaker 7>and he's actually yeah, he's he's not great in coverage,

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 7>but he's.

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, yeah, he's a mic. But what what I'm

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>also his thing with c J.

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<v Speaker 7>Allen is where he where he lacks in athleticism, he

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 7>makes up in the ability to diagnose quickly, no doubt.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 7>So so because he can diagnose quickly, it masks some

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 7>of the the athletics deficiencies right where Sonny Styles. Again,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 7>this is not saying Sonny Styles is not of a

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 7>high football like you. We just said it's outrageously high,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 7>but I do put CJ's a little bit higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Sonny is just he's a freaking he's freakish.

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 7>He's freakish athletically, but he doesn't top CJ in every

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 7>single category.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Is he more aggressive than CJ Allen at tackling and coverage?

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I would think so. I would argue that your defense,

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that defensive coordinator is looking for a guy that's going

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be the green dot, no doubt

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>about it. And granted, if Sonny Styles is that guy,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>he's that guy. But to me, CJ Allen has the

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>brain works in terms of defensive course.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 7>Sonny is more aggressive in coverage because he can be because.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>He's he came from the safety position right.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 7>Correct, but also because he's more athletically inclined to do so.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 3>CJ.

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 7>He's not as aggressive in coverage. There are times where

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 7>he second guesses in coverage because he wonders if he

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 7>can kind of get there, But when it comes to

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 7>run fits or a mobile quarterback, he's there. So I

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 7>would argue he's better in run coverage and run dee,

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 7>not run covers, but run defense than Sonny. But as

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 7>a total athletic package who can do both. I'm going

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 7>to get what position are you putting the Styles at Linebaker?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good question.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>What do I have overshown? Overshown is my will?

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Probably? Yeah?

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 5>I love samar is my Sam. Okay, so then it

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 5>has to be he's your mic. He has to bend and.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 3>He should be the mic in this system. Six foot

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 3>five mic is crazy to be wild.

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 7>But so then what's your orientation if you get him

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 7>and you and you would prefer or unless you're saying

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 7>you wouldn't prefer Demo.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>To be that's if he falls, which probably not.

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 6>See And that's why I had my conversation. We're talking

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 6>about a freak. This guy's awesome. Go up and get him,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 6>go and do it. Just stop being scared and go

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 6>and make.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 3>A move and go get you a dude. But these

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>are dudes.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 8>C J.

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 6>Allen, By the way, I love c J. Allen and

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 6>I've mocked him multiple times to Dallas on the Blitz

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 6>on Drop Show, all of these different things. I had

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 6>a little bird to get in my ear.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 3>And there might be some medical I haven't confirmed that yet,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not going to say it specifically.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 6>There might be a medical leader that's a question mark,

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, if you start to see him slide, that

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 6>might be why you need Kyle.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 7>I love that.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I need more than one guy. Yeah, that's the thing.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You need more than one.

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<v Speaker 6>Stop and I respect what you're saying. Who's the best

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 6>player on your defense? Who's the best player, who's the

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 6>best player on defense? Okay, who's your second best player

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 6>on what positions do they play?

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting?

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 6>What about like playmaking positions. Let's talk about like linebacker,

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 6>ed rusher, corner, who's your best player.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 7>At skill positions when healthy? This is a team effort, Kyle.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I'm saying.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 6>You don't have You don't have cornerstone pieces to build around,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 6>and I don't and you have it, you don't.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>You have six names. I don't think that's what they're

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 3>looking for. I think they're I think they're looking for

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I agree, I disagree.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 7>I agree they don't have the.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have cornerstones.

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 5>But like if you have a corner, some of that

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 5>cornerstone gets hurt and you look behind them, ain't nobody there?

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Then what? That's football, that's part of That's what I do.

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Get hurt, that's the same gets hurt. That's the same.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I got another quarterback, Sam? How you're talking about Sam?

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 7>How listen? I think that I think there's cornerstones, and

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 7>then they'll worry about the depth. Day three U df

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 7>A free agency post draft type stuff. I don't think

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 7>they're going into this draft saying we need to identify

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 7>uh depth.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not talking about your brownies. I'm talking about not

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 5>You might not get your number one player the boy,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 5>but you might get your second or third and he's

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 5>still in your mind. Well right, totally, But don't give

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 5>up your draft equity to go grab the number one

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 5>guy and then you have nothing else to go grab

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 5>because that's what it's going to require.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 7>So you see, you're saying draft equity, and this is

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 7>what I won't ever have.

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<v Speaker 5>To top twenty picks, but use them. You can have

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 5>a top ten, top forty. It can reach and go

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 5>get a player. And I say reach because you actually

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 5>have to go up and grab the person, not reaching,

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 5>meaning that that's outside of what you're cap doing.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to reach and go grab a person.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna have the twentieth pick anymore.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have thirty nine past the equity? Have you

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>currently have two first round picks? Why the top twenty

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you need those?

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 7>Why are so many stick let future picks to be

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 7>factored into the trade Because.

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't have them.

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>You do, and not only do you Davin Jones is negotiating.

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 7>The Cowboy, And with that being said, the Cowboys have

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 7>shown a proclivity recently last couple of off seasons to

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 7>be willing more than more than I've seen in recent history,

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 7>to give up future picks to try to improve this

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 7>year's draft.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>So I say that to say the evidence is there

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<v Speaker 1>on that side.

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Of the kind of the evidence is because we heard

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 5>that conversation going into this offseason and we still have

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 5>two top twenty picks. Well, you got two top twenty

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 5>picks because also you still have two weeks into the draft.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 5>So I mean my point is saying, my point being,

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 5>we didn't think that we're gonna be sitting here with

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 5>two tops right before the draft start.

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<v Speaker 3>That's stopped taking the beginning of the off season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I understand, but that's what gives That's what gives

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 6>you the arsenal to go get you a doc.

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 7>Let's I'm just saying, let's stop taking twenty twenty seven

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 7>picks out of the equation for some reason, because for

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 7>some reason, the crux of those arguments who say, well,

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 7>you don't move what because you want at least your

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 7>two picks that you have, you too.

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 5>What is it in order to give up a top

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 5>twenty pick this year's draft. Right is what if you're

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 5>an organization and Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones call you,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you need in return.

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<v Speaker 1>For yes, you know that's a conversation. What no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>What does no C? What does no C need? Where

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<v Speaker 3>does the conversation? I'll give you the break to think

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 6>When we come back, we'll talk about that and wrap

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<v Speaker 6>All right, welcome back, all rocking back into our discussion

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<v Speaker 6>that has lasted three segments. For Patrick, what would it

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<v Speaker 6>take for you to give up twenty to another player

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<v Speaker 6>or to another team again as twelve or twenty? Who's

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<v Speaker 6>on the phone and what players are on the board?

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a cutting dry It's not a cutting

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<v Speaker 1>dry answer.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you what's the conversation starts with I need

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<v Speaker 5>the at least this in return?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it if you where you hold on? Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on? You asked, who's still on the board, who's

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty? At twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, he's starting at twenty. Who wants

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<v Speaker 5>to reach and go grab somebody? In this scenario, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't see if I want to reach. I don't foresee

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<v Speaker 5>Dallas reaching from twelve to go grab somebody. I'll see

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<v Speaker 5>them sticking at twelve, but after twelve they might reach

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<v Speaker 5>from twenty to maybe fifteen or sixteen. If you're a

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 5>team and you're sitting at sixteen, right and Dallas calls you,

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<v Speaker 5>a conversation starts.

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<v Speaker 1>At what I want your second round pick?

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<v Speaker 3>You need more than that, I know, but that's you said.

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<v Speaker 5>The conversation starts at So I'm gonna say it is

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<v Speaker 5>I'm swapping, swapping sixteen and total started the conversation, and

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<v Speaker 5>you get swapping and second round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the starter of the conversation. That's the come on

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<v Speaker 1>what you're good with that?

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<v Speaker 6>No saying come on, like we what are we trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do here? We're trying to revamp The depth is great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that question. But adding depth should have happened

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<v Speaker 3>a while ago. It should have happened. We should be talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About depth at twenty exactly, we should be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>corners still safe death.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about having talent across the board. What we

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<v Speaker 5>tend to do whenever draft comes around is we want

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<v Speaker 5>to get that one dog, right, that one guy that

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<v Speaker 5>we absolutely know.

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<v Speaker 3>But in order sometimes when you're sitting at.

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<v Speaker 5>Twelve to have that absolute dog, you got to give

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<v Speaker 5>up some of your other pieces that would have allowed

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<v Speaker 5>for you to spread the talent out evenly. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to find yourself back. I think Dallas, the Cowboys organization,

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<v Speaker 5>is getting away from having just that one premier guy

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<v Speaker 5>and not having anybody else across the board that can

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<v Speaker 5>make contributions. I think that they're headed towards having talented

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<v Speaker 5>guys all across the defense that can make contributions from

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<v Speaker 5>every angle, instead of saying, Josh, we gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Worry about that guy right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's figure out a way to shut him down and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're good everywhere else. I don't think that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they want. I don't think they want that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I agree with you, I think they're I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're all on the same page that way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think a trade from twenty to fifteen sixteenes like

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<v Speaker 1>at that point just stick and pick man. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, you want to trade before twelve.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if anything, none of us anything, None of us

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<v Speaker 6>are standing here saying they're one dog away, right, Nobody

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<v Speaker 6>is saying that they're at least they're probably three four

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<v Speaker 6>guys from tour Stone guys.

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<v Speaker 3>To go from twelve to six, cow is gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>more than a second rounder. No, that's the like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the points that like work out together.

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<v Speaker 7>In the twelve is valued that twelve hundred points five,

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<v Speaker 7>which is well six. Cleveland is valued at sixteen hundred points,

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<v Speaker 7>four hundred point difference. Cleveland's second round pick is worth

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<v Speaker 7>five ten.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>You could make it work. I don't they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>look at you and be like, hey, this is a

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<v Speaker 7>slight overpay. You can make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you keeping twenty?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, so you want to trade up from twelve? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to trade up from twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the conversation starts at six.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to three because that's that's where we

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<v Speaker 6>would get in to what isaiahs talker, kind of wagering

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<v Speaker 6>your future. Yeah, I don't think you're wagering your future

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<v Speaker 6>if you're flipping twelve and twenty for six and thirty

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<v Speaker 6>thirty nine, that that doesn't hurt you as much as

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<v Speaker 6>it would if you're wagering this year, next year, a player,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it may be, to move up to three, and

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<v Speaker 6>then go get a guy that you might want. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>See what happens in the first five picks. If one

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<v Speaker 6>of those six names is going to be there, whichever

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<v Speaker 6>one you value the higher, then you get on the

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<v Speaker 6>phone and see if you can work something up. Don't

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<v Speaker 6>get overpaid or over taxed or whatever it may be.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 6>Don't do something dumb. But if it's within realm of

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<v Speaker 6>possibility and you're not going to wager your entire draft

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<v Speaker 6>to do it, go get yourself a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I'm at. I'm not just wagering everything the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I like your approach. I just don't think that other

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<v Speaker 3>teams are going to receive it that way.

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<v Speaker 6>Is Cleveland has already been vocal about wanting to trade

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<v Speaker 6>out though. That's why that's a that's been a conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, the problem was you were never going to fill

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<v Speaker 7>all of these needs in the draft, which is why

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<v Speaker 7>you need it to attack free agency a certain way,

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<v Speaker 7>which is why it's unfortunate that it's April ninth and

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<v Speaker 7>you haven't addressed the line, but haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 7>address the linebacker situation.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in this spot because you so there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>If they would have addressed free agency the way that

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<v Speaker 6>I think all of us anticipated them, you would address it,

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<v Speaker 6>we would be having this.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd say, Wow, what is twelve gonna be? And what

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 3>is twenty going to be? Now you've got to maneuver

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<v Speaker 3>to make it assay?

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<v Speaker 1>Still still two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>There are two weeks way two weeks?

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<v Speaker 6>All right, that doesn't for us. You're on top and Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 6>hope you have fun. We're going to be back at

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<v Speaker 6>our normal time next week ten am Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Be there be square scare money, don't make money for

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