1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: We are here every day from one until four o'clock 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: and every day after four o'clock. We have the podcast 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: same as the radio show, so if you miss anything, 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: you can listen to it John Cobelt's Show on demand. Actually, 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: we are releasing it hour by hour now. At the 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: end of every hour on the radio, we released that 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: hour's podcast for you. All right, Well, this was a 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: big surprise breakthrough in the Nancy Guthrie case, Savannah Guthrie's 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: mother down in Tucson. Yesterday, the ransom deadline came and passed, 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: and as far as I know, nobody paid the ransom 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: because whoever did the alleged kidnapping has not shown whether 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: Nancy is alive. So that came and went. No word 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: of any consequences for not meeting that deadline. And then 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: out of the blue today the FBI released surveillance video 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: and it was video from the doorbell camera, which we 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: all saw that that camera was ripped off the wall, 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: and now it turns out it was recording and it 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: has video of the perpetrator and he's wearing a mask 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: and gloves, a ski mask, and there's an alcove just 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: outside the front door made a brick and there's an 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: archway to enter the alcove and it's got it looks 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: like tile flooring there, and he's trying to block the 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: ring camera. It's actually a nest camera, different company. Let's 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: get Alex Stone to explain what's on the video and 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: what law enforcement thinks of any evidence that they've that 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: they've gleaned. 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: How are you alre hey, John? 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Doing well? So this is a pretty chilling video. 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: It really is like something out of a nightmare. You 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: look at it and think if you saw that person 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: on your net, on your ring camera, you would know 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: something's about to go down and that it's It would 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: be like out of a horror movie that here's a 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: guy totally covered in a ski mask, only his eyes 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: and mouth showing flashlight in his mouth as he's illuminating 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: whatever he's looking at, and gloves on, zip up, sweatshirt, 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: gun in his waistband, backpack on and yeah, John, the 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: one thing that really strikes me is how calm and 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: slow he is through all this. 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: He's not hurrying at all. He's looking around. 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: He goes and grabs a brush from in front of 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: the doorstep and tries to cover up the camera with 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: dry deserty vegetation and that doesn't work, and then puts 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: his leather glove up to it and then we know 47 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: eventually destroys and removes this. But it's incredible that the 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Google was able to retrieve this video. The owner of 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: nest that they had said and the FBI had said 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: this didn't exist, that she wasn't paying for the subscription, 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: just like if you have Nest or ring and if 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: you don't pay for it, they tell you they don't 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: save your video. And that the FBI says in some 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: Google back end system that they were able to find 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: this and retrieve it. And it's it's very clear, but 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: this is the guy. You know, the FBI is still 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: saying maybe a person of interest. I'm going to go 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: beyond that. This is the guy no longer just a 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: person of interest in that you see this at your 60 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: front door, you know that something bad's about to happen. 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: And they got to figure out now who this person is. 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: And with all the. 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Eyeballs around the world, even though he's completely covered up, 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: it seems like somebody might say, I know that upper lip, 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: I know those eyes, I know that that ski mask, 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: I know that backpack, I know that zip up sweatshirt 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: that he's wearing. Something somebody now through crowdsourcing is going 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: to say we know who that is. The video quality 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: is very clear. It's in black and white. Yeah, and 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: I noticed you talked about the way he walks. He 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: walks almost gingerly. Yeah, very slowly, hunched over and bends 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: over slowly to pick up some brush. He was briefly 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: trying to cover a camera lens. I guess with the 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: brush and then decided not to And I what I 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: haven't seen? 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Do they do? 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: They have the video where the ring where the nest 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: camera is torn out, and it doesn't go that far. 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: And now they're looking for more videocause she had a 80 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: bunch of cameras around there, so can they retrieve others? 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Figuring out how she was brought out of the home 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: and how he gets into it. We don't know of 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: any forced entry, so yeah, you look at this and 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: all along. Sheriff Netos has said in Pima County that 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: they don't know that this was a kidnapping. The evidence 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: has been there, that she was kidnapped, and that this 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: was a kidnapping they thought. But you could also look 88 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: at this and say, this is a guy going up 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: to the home to burglarize it and then goes in 90 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: and uh, oh, there's somebody here, or she scares them 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: and then something goes down there where she gets hurt 92 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: and he freaks out and doesn't. So this doesn't answer 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: the intent of what this guy was doing, except for 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: that clearly he was going to commit a crime and 95 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: break into this home one way or the other. And 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Savannah gu three today went on Instagram saying they believe 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: their mother is still alive, and she says, bring her home. 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: But this shows that clearly Nancy Guthrie was the victim 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: of a crime. But this doesn't answer any question of 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: yet who this guy is. But also if she's alive, 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: where she was taken, what went on there. But again, 102 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: you know, I go back to the Boston marathon bombing 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: where investigators there they got an image. They sat on 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: it for about a day trying to figure out who 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: it was, who their suspect was, and then they made 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: a decision that they were out of leads and they 107 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: had to put it out wide and then immediately they 108 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: had the answer of their suspects in that case. In 109 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: this case, hopefully it's going to go the same way. 110 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: But this shows you that, or at least the previous 111 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: case did that. You know, a lot of times law 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: enforcement wants to hold it closer to the vest. They 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: want to investigate. They don't want the bad guy to 114 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: know what they know who they're looking for. That you 115 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: put millions of eyes on these images that came out today, 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Whether the person be in Mexico or in the US 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: or somewhere else, Hopefully somebody is gonna say I know 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: who that is and that they very quickly are going 119 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: to solve this. But it's gonna be tough. It looks 120 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: to me like he's got a mustache or facial hair. 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: In one of the photos where the scheme mask just 122 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: doesn't completely cover the upper lip, it looks like there's 123 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: facial hair there. That's going to play a role. The 124 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: FBI is going to analyze how tall he is, what 125 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: his weight is, what his eyes are like, you know, 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: analyze his mouth, all of that, and he's probably know 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: a lot more here. Pretty quickly, somebody should be able 128 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: to maybe identify his walk, or the way he was stooped, 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: for the way he carries his gun in the in 130 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: the front of the waistband. You know, just things where 131 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: you go, hey, that looks like you know, Jimmy, you know, 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: And then then then you go, he's been acting weird recently, 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: and somebody calls in a tip and then and then 134 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: they uncover it. But but this is I mean, the 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: video is is creepy and very very clear. 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, really spooky. 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: And and so it's just if he was coming to 138 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: do a burglary, and let's go with what you said, 139 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: that scenario that he didn't expect her to be there, 140 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: she freaks. We don't know, We had no idea, but 141 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: she's you'd only be convicted of a burglary at most, right, 142 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: you're trespassing maybe if you don't take anything. Why would 143 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: you ramp it up to kidnapping? And then if she 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: has a heart attack and dies be implicated in a murder, 145 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: It's like, it's just very strange that you wouldn't just 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: take your loss. It's like, Okay, I didn't realize somebody 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: was home. I'll go and broguarize somebody else. Yeah, and 148 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: who knows what this guy was thinking or what it was, 149 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: or maybe it was very targeted against Savannah Guthrie. I mean, 150 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: they're looking at is it a stalker, Is it somebody 151 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: who knew that the family has money and that this 152 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: whole thing was planned to kidnap her? Or does he 153 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: go in and you know, let's just again totally hypothetically, 154 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: say she hears rustling in the house, she wakes up 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: and spooks him and either she falls because we know 156 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: she needed a cane or to get around, she falls, 157 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: or he does something hurt her and then all of 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: a sudden he freaks out and she's injured and he thinks, 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: I got to do. 160 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: Something to cover this up. We don't know. 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: It could be any number of things, but we know 162 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: that even though they don't want to say suspect, and 163 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: they still say she's missing instead a victim of a 164 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: crime or of a kidnapping. This answers a lot today 165 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: that this is no longer a medical emergency that you 166 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: know that may have just looked wrong. This is not 167 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: a number of different things. This is clearly a crime 168 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: that he went in there. Motive we don't know, but 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: he went in there and it ended with her disappearing. 170 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Now I've heard they've got to talk to everybody who 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: would know Nancy Guthrie and you know, workers who might 172 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: have done Yeah, that's. 173 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Just police work one one. 174 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you take DNA from everybody, You talk to everybody, 175 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: anybody who knew her, anybody who had been a round her. 176 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: Has she been acting weird? Did she mention anything? Had 177 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: anybody been did she say somebody's been watching me, somebody's 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: been calling the house, you know, anything to get a clue. 179 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: And friends and relatives of this guy, co workers who 180 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: might recognize the ski hat or the jacket, or the 181 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: gun in the waistband, or the way he was stooped 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: over the way he walked, because it's kind of distinctive. 183 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's got to have some detail that they recognize. 184 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: And he may not be in Tucson. He could be 185 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: in LA He could be in Orange County, you know, 186 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: he could be in Riverside. Or they don't know where 187 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: this person is. And I mean it's still weird that 188 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: we don't know any that there were no vehicles that 189 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: were picked up on street light cameras and license plate readers, 190 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: that that has not led them to anywhere this guy 191 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: had to get there in some way. This is a 192 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: pretty remote neighborhood unless he's a homeless dude who but 193 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't look like it based on what he's wearing. 194 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: Who walked in there? And then but then what does 195 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: he do with her? Drag her all the way out 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: of there without a vehicle. So there's just still a 197 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: lot that doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. It's 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: still weird. It's very weird. It's really weird. If it 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: was just a burglary, that just doesn't click. 200 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey, if you find out more, we'll 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: talk with you again. 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thanks. 203 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: Sean alex Stone, ABC News correspondent talking about Nancy Guthrie 204 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie's mom and bombshell video. It's from a Nest camera. 205 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: It looks like the thing worked. And even though she 206 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: didn't pay her subscription, and you know, Google had said, hey, 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: you know, if you don't pay the subscription, we don't 208 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: save the data. 209 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: We don't save the images. They get erased apparently. 210 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: And this is true with your you know, laptop computer, 211 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: any computer. Even when you delete things, you delete things 212 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: in your phone, there could be a cache of data 213 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: information in some secret folder that can be retrieved, especially 214 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: if you have the level of FBI forensics that they possess. 215 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: So oftentimes, but you know what, so often you need 216 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: to get a warrant because Google has to has to 217 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: deal with the privacy laws and the privacy expectations their customers. 218 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: They don't want to get sued for giving out private information. 219 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: So sometimes you have to go and get a warrant 220 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: or bring some evidence to convince Google that this is 221 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: an emergency, and then they'll go into their back data 222 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: storage and see what they could retrieve. It's not easy, 223 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: can can take a while. 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 225 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: Forty, I guess I'm supposed to frequently remind you. In fact, 226 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: you guys have to remind me to remind everybody listening 227 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: about what that we got a big announcement. 228 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Coming today at four o'clock. We do. 229 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: There's a fifty to fifty shot. You really don't know, no, okay, 230 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, you know, I know, I. 231 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: Know, it's very exciting. 232 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. Somebody's got to tell me. 233 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: You know, I got to make sure that I don't slip, 234 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: So don't ask me questions. 235 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're I get. 236 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: Blamed for a lot of that stuff around here, and 237 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 5: I'm not going to be blamed for this. 238 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: There's reasons for that. 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: No, they're all false. 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: They're not exactly a CIA. No I'm not. 241 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: But I'm really not the biggest gossiper around here. 242 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: Let me just tell you. 243 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: Newscasters are like that. 244 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: They're just that's in their DNA, just trained information and 245 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: information comes out I know. So anyway, we do have 246 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: a big announcement after four o'clock, and I'm gonna be 247 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: on with Conway right after the four o'clock people are asking. 248 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: If you're getting married? Yeah, oh well that on social 249 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: media that would be my dream. 250 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: The guesses in the comments have been pretty funny. They 251 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 6: have so marriage uh. 252 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Uh huh and and uh who's who's going to be 253 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: the wife. I'll let you guys figure that way, which 254 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: if the two of us comes across, is more feminine. 255 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: Uh, I'm taking a bit. 256 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: All right, that's after four o'clock, so you'd be listening 257 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: if you care. Now, Nancy Guthrie, all right, this is 258 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: the first time that that when it comes to the investigation, 259 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: they've they've had any kind of a piece of piece 260 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: of evidence, I mean, and it turns out to be huge, uh, 261 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, but it's it's a guy in a scheme 262 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: mask and he's got a gun in a strange looking waistband. 263 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: He's got black gloves on. Seems he's got color a 264 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: colorful outfit, doesn't it's always hard to tell him black 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: and white? But doesn't his His ski jacket look to 266 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: be I don't know, red or orange something like that. 267 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: And it's a light colored ski mask that he's wearing. 268 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: And you could see his eyes, and you can see 269 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: his mouth and it looks like there's some mustache hair 270 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: is coming out of the top of his mouth there. 271 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: And he just. 272 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: Walks so slowly, and I'm trying to I'm trying to 273 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: see he being careful because you know he's about to 274 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: commit some kind of crime. Is he very familiar with 275 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: where he is? Like, he doesn't seem nervous and jumpy 276 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: eyes darting around, worried about getting caught anything like that. 277 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: Do you think he's a professional. Do you think this 278 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: is a or do you think this is a hit man? 279 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 5: Or do you think I mean, I told you the 280 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: other day that I thought it was possibly a dranged 281 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 5: of Savannah Guthrie. 282 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: F on that doesn't look like who's a range? 283 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 284 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Who is this guy? 285 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what demographic that would be a deranged 286 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie fan. 287 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: I don't either, but okay, maybe not derange, just some 288 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: fan that I don't know. 289 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Does he look like a Today Show guy? 290 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 6: No? 291 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see him getting up at seven in 292 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: the morning to watch the Today Show. 293 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: You know, that's a very good point. 294 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: Here's the recipe segment. This guy's getting all worked out. 295 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,359 Speaker 4: But she's a pretty lady. Maybe she is attractive. 296 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: She is, yes, she's she's attractive, But boy, this is 297 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: a what does he expect to get out of this 298 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: a date? 299 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean what, I don't. 300 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: Know what is the motivation because as far as I know, 301 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: he didn't actually steal anything in the house. And then 302 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: you have this this stupid, uh ransom situation, and nobody 303 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: knows that the ransom is connected to this guy anyway, 304 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: because of all the crackpots in the world and all 305 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: the easy ways that you can you can fake, you 306 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: can fake things. Uh, you know, they don't they don't 307 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: send real ransom notes where you leave fingerprints so they 308 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: can track where you bought the paper or where you 309 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: brought the marker. It's uh, you know, you print it 310 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: out of your computer. It's it doesn't really explain the 311 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: origin of it. 312 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: And did this guy really think that this was not 313 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: going to be a news story that would be flashing 314 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 5: across everywhere across the world. I mean, and now I'm 315 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 5: wondering if he's sitting he's sitting there with his TV, 316 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: his little black and white TV in his I don't 317 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: know basement, and he sees him himself. 318 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: I once lived in a basement with a black and 319 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: white tear. 320 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure you did. 321 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Uh well, I mean if if he if he knew 322 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: who the woman was, then he must have done this 323 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: should be explosive. 324 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: If he didn't know who the woman was, why would 325 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: you take her? Well? 326 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: I hate four year old woman, all right, she's she 327 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: she can barely walk, and and she's she's not a pacemaker. 328 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: She's eighty four to yeah. 329 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: And then and then something happens and she's bleeding. Now 330 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: it drops of blood. It doesn't look like it was 331 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: gushing blood, so it looks like maybe she cut herself. 332 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: There's a struggle and he got but sorry, now, she's bleeding. 333 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: He's got a pacemaker, he can't walk. I think she 334 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: gets around on a walker. What now, what are you 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna do with her? 336 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 6: This is why I think this guy wasn't a professional, 337 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 6: and something happened. He was breaking into this house. Whether 338 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 6: he knew who it was or not, he was trying 339 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 6: to break into this house, didn't know she was home. 340 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 6: They have an altercation and run into each other. He 341 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: injures her in some way, maybe kills her, and panics, 342 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: takes the body and is currently panicking. It's like, there's 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 6: no there's no body. Clearly there was forced entry, and 344 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 6: it's like, if this guy wasn't a professional, he probably 345 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: panicked and it's just like, well, I'm going to take 346 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: this body and leave as little evidence as possible. 347 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 4: But did you see how huge his backpack is? 348 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 6: What's in that backpack tools to break into safes, break 349 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 6: into windows, closets. 350 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: Right, But he didn't do that because. 351 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: He probably ran into her first. But wouldn't you leave her? 352 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 353 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: You just tied. 354 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not easily identifiable with that mask on. 355 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just run? There's other places to steal stuff. 356 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: That's why to me, And again This is just me, 357 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 5: you know, talking out of my you know what. 358 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: I think that this is somebody who. 359 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: Either, like I said, is some crazy fan of Savannah Guthries, 360 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 5: or maybe it's somebody that that maybe maybe she did. 361 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: Story to pissed this guy off. 362 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't know it, but I would. I would return mom. 363 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: Why do you want to carry mom around with you? 364 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: Now? 365 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: Be responsible for her. That's why I always thought you 366 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: were safe. 367 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: Because. 368 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Anybody to take you is going to return and half, 369 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's noisy. 370 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Uh up when we come back. 371 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: Uh. The uh California Post has gotten a draft of 372 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: the original, the original after action fire report that the 373 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: fire department wrote up. This is the one that Karen 374 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: Bass wanted rewritten. And uh she still denies that, but 375 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: she hasn't told us. Well then who ordered the rewrite? 376 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: If not you, so it's still her and uh, we've 377 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: got we've got we could we could see now they 378 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: published today the original report and what it turned into. 379 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that when we can back. 380 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 381 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: six forty. 382 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Moistline is on Friday. What is today? Where am I? Tuesday? 383 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday right Moistline Friday eight seven seven, Moist daighty 384 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: six eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or use the 385 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. We've got two o'clock. 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 2: I'm discombobulated today. I'm just letting you know. At two 387 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: o'clock we are going to have something on the California 388 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: High speed Rail. 389 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh. 390 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: That's oh, this is the half billion dollar payment they 391 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: have to make to a contractor because of work delays. 392 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: Half billion dollars. We talked about this yesterday and we're 393 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: going to have assembly Member Alexandra Mesito on. 394 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: She went on. 395 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 2: Kcra Channel three's political show with Ashley and she was 396 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: talking about, well, two parts to this. One is Newsom's 397 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: trying to get a bill passed that would make the 398 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: high speed rail records secret if they would be damaging 399 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: to the state, and of course everything about high speed 400 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: rail is damaging to the state. What they want to 401 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: do is cover up all the financial scandals, and one 402 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: of them here is a half billion dollars that they 403 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: have to pay now to a contractor. 404 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: It was a lawsuit work delayers. 405 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: Anyway, we're going to have that assembly woman on and 406 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: her name's alec Alexandra Roscido and that's gonna be after 407 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: two o'clock. Okay, So the California Post, boy have really 408 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: the media landscape change with the California Post. 409 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: I just can't get over it. 410 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: They produce more damning stories about the government in Sacramento 411 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: and here in LA in the two and a half 412 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: weeks they've been publishing. Then the rest of the media 413 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: from here to Sacramento and back on TV, newspaper, internet, radio, 414 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: then the whole media ecosystem. They have put out more 415 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: news in two and a half weeks than the rest 416 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: of the media ecosystem for the last year. It's incredible. 417 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: And all this stuff is stuff that you wouldn't know 418 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: about had they not gone out and don the investigating. 419 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: So Jamie Page once again has gotten. 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: A hold of some of the original report of the 421 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: Palistates fire. This is the Palistates Fire after action report 422 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: that was commissioned by Karen Bass to find out what 423 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: went wrong. And as you know, it went through six rewrites. 424 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: The original author pulled his name off it because it 425 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: was being what are down softened, being disemboweled, really, because 426 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: Baths does not want any scrutiny on all the horrible 427 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: decisions that she and Kristin Crowley made, the former fire 428 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: chief and all the other top fire officials, or Judice 429 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: Keinonia is the idiot who runs the d WP with 430 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: the empty reservoir. So some of this is coming out now. 431 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: The California Post has obtained a first draft and has 432 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: uncovered numerous edits sweeping changes. It was a ninety two 433 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: page document. The it was twenty two pages longer than 434 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: the final version, so twenty two pages worth of information 435 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: was cut. I'm just going to go for a couple 436 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: of notable things right now. I have a feeling, you know, 437 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: there's going to be more and more to talk about 438 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: as the day goes on. But one of the worst 439 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: was damny edits, according to the Post, is where they'd 440 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: acknowledge insufficient resources that would be money. They didn't have 441 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: the resources to suppress a wind driven vegetation fire. Well, 442 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: they didn't have the money to keep the engines fixed 443 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: and running, and they didn't have the money to keep 444 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: the firefighters working a second shift. In fact, they don't 445 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: have the money every day of the week because the 446 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: fire department is only fifty percent funded by Karen Bass. 447 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 2: You have to understand you live in Los Angeles. Your 448 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: police and fire department is terrible, has been terribly defunded, 449 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: and she defunded it further in the year leading to 450 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: the fire. 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: So the original. 452 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: Language said they didn't have enough resources to quote suppress 453 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: a wind driven vegetation fire. That the department was attempting 454 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: to be fiscally responsible by not fully augmenting in pre 455 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: deploying all available resources in preparation for a rare wind event. 456 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: This is the original language. They were trying to be 457 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: fiscally responsible. What is fiscally responsible for not sending up 458 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: a crew to a fire that was still smoldering when 459 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: that became the ignition point for the new fire, Any 460 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: amount of money spent at that moment would have been 461 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: worth it. They could have spent the half of the 462 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: LA budget and that would have been worth it the 463 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: whole LA budget compared to what we've got Now we 464 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: have tens of billions of dollars damage. But that was 465 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: what are down from fiscally responsible. They were being physically responsible, 466 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: but not augmenting and pre deploying resources. So the final 467 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: report said that the fire department balanced fiscal responsibility with 468 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: proper preparation by following it its pre deployment matrix, which 469 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: of course is a word say valid jumbo of jargoning 470 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: nonsense terms. What it means is we didn't want to 471 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: spend the money on firefighters. We don't want to pay 472 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: them the overtime. That's what that says. Even the original 473 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: wording was I think the word is obtuse was confusing. 474 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: The rewording made it incoherent. 475 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: No, it's. 476 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: We were defunded by Karen Pass and there's a lot 477 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: of pressure not to spend money. So even when you 478 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: have the worst forecasts for wind and fire that anyone 479 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: has seen in their lifetime, we're not to spend money. 480 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: We are not going to put firefighters up there period, 481 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: not even at a hot spot that was still smoldering, 482 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: that would go up any second with those kinds of wins, 483 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: any second it whips up and then pal Sages is gone. 484 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: They wouldn't spend money on that. They wouldn't They thought 485 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: that's fiscally responsible. Only in the app they asked backwards 486 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: upside down, inside out absurd world of la bureaucracy. Is 487 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: not spending a tiny amount of money on fire cruise 488 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: for one hotspot considered fiscally responsible compared to burning the 489 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: whole town down. 490 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Hey yea yeay. 491 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 2: Draft language noted the crews arriving on the scene lacked 492 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: clarity regarding the communications protocol. That was the rewrite lacked 493 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 2: clarity regarding the community. The original wording that was that 494 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: the firefighters were being blamed because most of them did 495 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: not communicate their needs. So the firefighters were being blamed 496 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: here because they didn't tell the commanders that we need 497 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: more firefighters, we need fire trucks, we need water. And 498 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: then they decided not to blame the firefighters for not 499 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: communicating how bad it is. Did they ever send anybody 500 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 2: to the hotspot? To the hotspots story? And this will 501 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: come out in the UH. I think of the depositions 502 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: for the civil lawsuit that Roger Bailey is doing. I mean, 503 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: we had him on a few days agway, and he 504 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: intimated there's some pretty shocking stuff coming. So I think 505 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: that's where we're going to get the mother load of information. 506 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Apparently they for some reason repeated references to wind and 507 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: wind event were originally in the report but are removed 508 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: in the final report. Why would you take out wind 509 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: and wind event? That was their cover story right, Oh, 510 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: the winds were historic. We've never seen anything like it, 511 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: which is loaded loaded nonsense. Oh, hurricane force winds. No, no, 512 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: they went, we're not hurricane force winds. You know in 513 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: reading some of the rewrites. Yes, they definitely watered it down, 514 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: definitely softened it. Definitely came from Karen Bass trying to 515 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: cover everything up. But the original report was no great 516 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: shakes either. And why they these people have not been 517 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: hauled before a grand jury, before a maybe it'll happen 518 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: the US Sidate Investigative Committee. Really, our California Senate and 519 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: Assembly should take care of these these losers. Really what 520 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: they are these fire officials are the losers. They didn't 521 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: care at all about what happened in the public. Now 522 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: most we'll see there'll be more coming out two o'clock 523 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: high speed rail And we were going to talk to 524 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: an assembly woman and she's going to tell us about 525 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: why Gavin Newsom wants to He wants to cover up 526 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: all the billing paperwork not be released anymore so the 527 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: public doesn't know how badly they've bungled this thing. And 528 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: one of the triggers is a new report that they 529 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: have to pay almost a half billion dollars to a 530 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: contractor over work delays a lawsuit that's coming up next. 531 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 532 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: After four o'clock, I'll be on with Tim. We'll be 533 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: on together after four o'clock to announce the secret, to 534 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: reveal the big announcement. 535 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Do it now? Nah, I can ever be upset. I 536 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: don't want to hear from them. 537 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: It's bad enough. I have to talk to people, and 538 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: I have to talk to everybody again. So we'll see. 539 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not revealing it now. You can reveal 540 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: it if you want. I'm good, you can deal with it. 541 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: La County, did I hear you? Because you and I 542 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: always have to listen to Debor did you say they've 543 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: they voted to put this new sales tax on the bank? 544 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Did La County supervisors? 545 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: That just happened? 546 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: This is a half cent increase. 547 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: Because we don't pay enough in taxes, do we? 548 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: So? 549 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: What are we over ten percent now in the county 550 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: for a sales tax? 551 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: It's passed. 552 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be over ten percent. Yes, they we 553 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: just we just people. 554 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: Got suckered into another tax increase a year ago for 555 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: the for the homeless, Yes, and then the county announced 556 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: after they got the tax increase that they're cutting homeless 557 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: spending because they've blown so much. 558 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Well it's been stolen. But why is it? 559 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: I have been reading these news stories and I'll get 560 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: to some of this later about how there's an uprising 561 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: among the progressives in La County, and now Nithia Rahman 562 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: is coming after Karen Bass. It's like an uprising. Why 563 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Karen Bass is way to the left. When Fidel Castro died, 564 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: she was publicly grieving. I'm not joking. I mean Nitthia 565 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: Ramen is just full out communist. So it's not progressive 566 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: enough here. The taxes aren't high enough. There's the point 567 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: of all this, everything that you depend on from a city. 568 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: Am I wrong about this? I'm trying to understand. Your 569 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: police department is way underfunded. We ought to have at 570 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: least ten to twelve thousand officers. We're gonna have I 571 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: think eighty three hundred at the end of this year. 572 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: We got a fire department, we know that story, right, 573 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: that's fifty percent underfunded and they spend their days chasing 574 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: homeless fires. The roads are a disaster. We told you 575 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: a few days ago that LA has not repaved a 576 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: single road in the city since last June, and there 577 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: are no plans to repave any roads this coming fiscal year. 578 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: In fact, the line item is zero dollars. Okay, Now 579 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: we have and I know the city doesn't directly oversee 580 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: the school district, but we pay a lot of taxes 581 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: for that too. We have one of the worst city 582 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: school districts in the nation. Three quarters of the kids 583 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: are graduating, and they're not capable of doing math, and 584 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: they can't do the reading. They're not proficient, they're not 585 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: proficient in reading in math. Three quarters of it all right, 586 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: So we got one of the most garbage school systems. Oh, 587 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: speaking of garbage, they don't pick up the garbage. The 588 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: trash is this in this city. The trash is so 589 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: foul and so prevalent. So wait, let me review this. 590 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: I've already lost myself. We have a way underfunded police department, 591 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: a way underfunded fire department. The roads are all busted up, 592 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: the sidewalks are all busted up, the garbage is piled 593 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: up everywhere. 594 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: And the schools are crap. 595 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, am I missing anything about basic services that our 596 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: taxes are supposed to pay for. 597 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: And everybody voted. 598 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: Everybody voted for the last sales tax increase for the homeless, 599 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: even though it was already proven be out a reasona 600 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: little bit of doubt that much of the money is stolen. 601 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: Most of the money is stolen. 602 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: So now they want to. 603 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: They want to raise the sales tax to deal with 604 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: a federal funding cut to healthcare. That would uh, but 605 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: they're cutting healthcare to California and Los Angeles because of 606 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: all the fraud, but because of all the money going 607 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: to illegal aliens. So now I'm going to be taxed 608 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: to give illegal aliens more health care or to keep 609 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: paying all these fake companies who are bilking medical you know, 610 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: like when doctor Oz found all those dozens of hospices, 611 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: fake hospices. 612 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: On Van Nights Boulevard. 613 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Yes, the increase would bump the county sales text to 614 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: ten and a quarter percent, which is the highest allowed 615 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: by state law. Ten and a quarter percent. 616 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 5: I'm not going to buy anything anymore, No more clothes, 617 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: no more, or I'm just gonna go out of. 618 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: Outa no more clothes. You'll be down to your last 619 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: ten thousand outfits. What a hardship? What am I gonna 620 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: wear for the next eight hundred days. 621 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: Spend ten and a quarter percent? 622 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: No, that's that's ridiculous. Yeah, you might. 623 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: You might as well a lot of stuff. If you buy, 624 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: you just drive over the border. 625 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely no. 626 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: People in the north go to Ventura County. People in 627 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: the south go over to Orange County. No, nobody taxes 628 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: like this. 629 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: And we'll just go to Oregon. 630 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 4: There's no sales tax there. 631 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, or you go to uh Nevada. I think Nevada 632 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: has no income tax. Washington has no income tax. This 633 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: is this is just crazy. Well, we'll be covering that. 634 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 2: And what's next. Oh, yes about Gavin Newsom. We're gonna 635 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: talk with Alexandra Mercido. Why Gaven Newsom wants to cover 636 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 2: up all the financial records of high speed rail? 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